Sinn Fein? They have gone away, you know.

[trailer]

i got no time for the far right or sinn fein

You just had a chuckle about a Far Right nut job roaring abuse at Sinn Fein.

SF can't hear him as they are on the Far Left.

[burdizzo]

i got no time for the far right or sinn fein

You just had a chuckle about a Far Right nut job roaring abuse at Sinn Fein.

Yes, how dare you chuckle at someone calling out Sinn Fein for being traitors!

[Milltown Row2]

Is Mary Lou and SF taking potshots at how the Garda (in her words) failed to prevent that riot?

Christ the night

[marty34]

Is Mary Lou and SF taking potshots at how the Garda (in her words) failed to prevent that riot?

Christ the night

Not sure what her words were or what you say they were but good debate this evening on Harris and Mc Entee.

A good few political parties and people in general asking questions about the gardaí.  According to reports there was widespread info. that a gathering was going to take place and the guards were late to the party, so to speak.

This was going to kick off sometime soon and the gardaí are under-resourced and don't have the manpower.  There have been a few incidents in DCC recently - tourists getting battered etc. and Mc Entee spoofing that Dublin City Centre is safe.

This is a legacy issue going back a good few years but is part of the problem also.

The court system needs to change fast to tighten things up also and hopefully this will be the spark to get things back on the level. 

[Milltown Row2]

Is Mary Lou and SF taking potshots at how the Garda (in her words) failed to prevent that riot?

Christ the night

Not sure what her words were or what you say they were but good debate this evening on Harris and Mc Entee.

A good few political parties and people in general asking questions about the gardaí.  According to reports there was widespread info. that a gathering was going to take place and the guards were late to the party, so to speak.

This was going to kick off sometime soon and the gardaí are under-resourced and don't have the manpower.  There have been a few incidents in DCC recently - tourists getting battered etc. and Mc Entee spoofing that Dublin City Centre is safe.

This is a legacy issue going back a good few years but is part of the problem also.

The court system needs to change fast to tighten things up also and hopefully this will be the spark to get things back on the level. 

So the stabbing of the children and adults created a crazy mob to come out and the Garda were at fault for not having enough police officers available (could have been for multiple reasons, under resourced or short staffed)  ah f**k it let's blame the peelers for not being on duty or close by or stay on longer for their shift to sort out a bunch of mindless whores.

If there are cutbacks then that's on the government

Let's blame the scumbags that did it, reserve any blame for them, it's like blaming a rape victim for wearing a short skirt

[Main Street]

Is Mary Lou and SF taking potshots at how the Garda (in her words) failed to prevent that riot?

Christ the night

Not sure what her words were or what you say they were but good debate this evening on Harris and Mc Entee.

A good few political parties and people in general asking questions about the gardaí.  According to reports there was widespread info. that a gathering was going to take place and the guards were late to the party, so to speak.

This was going to kick off sometime soon and the gardaí are under-resourced and don't have the manpower.  There have been a few incidents in DCC recently - tourists getting battered etc. and Mc Entee spoofing that Dublin City Centre is safe.

This is a legacy issue going back a good few years but is part of the problem also.

The court system needs to change fast to tighten things up also and hopefully this will be the spark to get things back on the level. 

So the stabbing of the children and adults created a crazy mob to come out and the Garda were at fault for not having enough police officers available (could have been for multiple reasons, under resourced or short staffed)  ah f**k it let's blame the peelers for not being on duty or close by or stay on longer for their shift to sort out a bunch of mindless whores.

If there are cutbacks then that's on the government

Let's blame the scumbags that did it, reserve any blame for them, it's like blaming a rape victim for wearing a short skirt

Afai the criticism is about the Garda leadership and government mismanagement not the ordinary Garda. The failures are at the top. There is a wider debate which you may not be aware of  but it has been going on for years about the dire policing levels in Dublin, how they are being degraded systematically  and the all too frequent need to call up gardai from the rest of the province to fill gaps. So yes when there is an emergency as this was in Dublin there are not enough gardai on standby ready to crack racist skulls. The other matters which I heard about on radio was this type of riot/mayhem had been flagged on social media for weeks, just waiting for an incident to happen. On the day, re this incident, the call went out on social media to the mindless thugs  to get into the city centre. Garda intelligence failed to monitor these sites and activists or take heed of the frequent warnings they were given by good citizens.
Much of this is quite similar to the Garda intelligence failure to take heed of top level warnings handed to them on a plate about the planned riot in Landsdown Road 1995 and their belated appearance to the scene of the riot.
 

[Milltown Row2]

Is Mary Lou and SF taking potshots at how the Garda (in her words) failed to prevent that riot?

Christ the night

Not sure what her words were or what you say they were but good debate this evening on Harris and Mc Entee.

A good few political parties and people in general asking questions about the gardaí.  According to reports there was widespread info. that a gathering was going to take place and the guards were late to the party, so to speak.

This was going to kick off sometime soon and the gardaí are under-resourced and don't have the manpower.  There have been a few incidents in DCC recently - tourists getting battered etc. and Mc Entee spoofing that Dublin City Centre is safe.

This is a legacy issue going back a good few years but is part of the problem also.

The court system needs to change fast to tighten things up also and hopefully this will be the spark to get things back on the level. 

So the stabbing of the children and adults created a crazy mob to come out and the Garda were at fault for not having enough police officers available (could have been for multiple reasons, under resourced or short staffed)  ah f**k it let's blame the peelers for not being on duty or close by or stay on longer for their shift to sort out a bunch of mindless whores.

If there are cutbacks then that's on the government

Let's blame the scumbags that did it, reserve any blame for them, it's like blaming a rape victim for wearing a short skirt

Afai the criticism is about the Garda leadership and government mismanagement not the ordinary Garda. The failures are at the top. There is a wider debate which you may not be aware of  but it has been going on for years about the dire policing levels in Dublin, how they are being degraded systematically  and the all too frequent need to call up gardai from the rest of the province to fill gaps. So yes when there is an emergency as this was in Dublin there are not enough gardai on standby ready to crack racist skulls. The other matters which I heard about on radio was this type of riot/mayhem had been flagged on social media for weeks, just waiting for an incident to happen. On the day, re this incident, the call went out on social media to get into the city centre. Garda intelligence failed to monitor these sites and activists or take heed of the frequent warnings they were given by good citizens.
Much of this is quite similar to the Garda intelligence failure to take heed of top level warnings handed to them on a plate about the planned riot in Landsdown Road 1995 and their belated appearance to the scene of the riot.
 

It's purely a government mismanagement issue in regards to underfunding with recruitment or being under staffed, having 500 police available at the drop of a hat is not practical, by that logic, every incident requires 500 stand by cops available just in case. Do you think that's logical?

from the reports I read, they were monitoring it, but only reacted with what they had available.

Again, blame the dirt birds who took advantage. Can't believe we are still highlighting the cops and not the victims..

So much for the South being better than the UK!

[armaghniac]

Is Mary Lou and SF taking potshots at how the Garda (in her words) failed to prevent that riot?

Christ the night

Not sure what her words were or what you say they were but good debate this evening on Harris and Mc Entee.

A good few political parties and people in general asking questions about the gardaí.  According to reports there was widespread info. that a gathering was going to take place and the guards were late to the party, so to speak.

This was going to kick off sometime soon and the gardaí are under-resourced and don't have the manpower.  There have been a few incidents in DCC recently - tourists getting battered etc. and Mc Entee spoofing that Dublin City Centre is safe.

This is a legacy issue going back a good few years but is part of the problem also.

The court system needs to change fast to tighten things up also and hopefully this will be the spark to get things back on the level. 

There are less Gardaí pro rata than back 15 years ago and no evidence of any urgency to do anything about that, although there are more things for Gardaí to do. Hence we have louts able to do what they like nd less checkpoints on the road, so road deaths have increased. FG have just left Gardaí, the fire services, education, and many branches of health without enough staff. They may say that they got more, but the population is increasing and more are needed just to stay still.

There was a time when you could have relied in FG for law and order, if nothing else FFS.

[Main Street]

Is Mary Lou and SF taking potshots at how the Garda (in her words) failed to prevent that riot?

Christ the night

Not sure what her words were or what you say they were but good debate this evening on Harris and Mc Entee.

A good few political parties and people in general asking questions about the gardaí.  According to reports there was widespread info. that a gathering was going to take place and the guards were late to the party, so to speak.

This was going to kick off sometime soon and the gardaí are under-resourced and don't have the manpower.  There have been a few incidents in DCC recently - tourists getting battered etc. and Mc Entee spoofing that Dublin City Centre is safe.

This is a legacy issue going back a good few years but is part of the problem also.

The court system needs to change fast to tighten things up also and hopefully this will be the spark to get things back on the level. 

So the stabbing of the children and adults created a crazy mob to come out and the Garda were at fault for not having enough police officers available (could have been for multiple reasons, under resourced or short staffed)  ah f**k it let's blame the peelers for not being on duty or close by or stay on longer for their shift to sort out a bunch of mindless whores.

If there are cutbacks then that's on the government

Let's blame the scumbags that did it, reserve any blame for them, it's like blaming a rape victim for wearing a short skirt

Afai the criticism is about the Garda leadership and government mismanagement not the ordinary Garda. The failures are at the top. There is a wider debate which you may not be aware of  but it has been going on for years about the dire policing levels in Dublin, how they are being degraded systematically  and the all too frequent need to call up gardai from the rest of the province to fill gaps. So yes when there is an emergency as this was in Dublin there are not enough gardai on standby ready to crack racist skulls. The other matters which I heard about on radio was this type of riot/mayhem had been flagged on social media for weeks, just waiting for an incident to happen. On the day, re this incident, the call went out on social media to get into the city centre. Garda intelligence failed to monitor these sites and activists or take heed of the frequent warnings they were given by good citizens.
Much of this is quite similar to the Garda intelligence failure to take heed of top level warnings handed to them on a plate about the planned riot in Landsdown Road 1995 and their belated appearance to the scene of the riot.
 

It's purely a government mismanagement issue in regards to underfunding with recruitment or being under staffed, having 500 police available at the drop of a hat is not practical, by that logic, every incident requires 500 stand by cops available just in case. Do you think that's logical?

from the reports I read, they were monitoring it, but only reacted with what they had available.

Again, blame the dirt birds who took advantage. Can't believe we are still highlighting the cops and not the victims..

So much for the South being better than the UK!

Who is highlighting the cops? not Mary Lou,  she spelled it out clear it was not the gardai but the commissioner and minister who must take the responsibility for the sad state of affairs with the force.

[marty34]

Is Mary Lou and SF taking potshots at how the Garda (in her words) failed to prevent that riot?

Christ the night

Not sure what her words were or what you say they were but good debate this evening on Harris and Mc Entee.

A good few political parties and people in general asking questions about the gardaí.  According to reports there was widespread info. that a gathering was going to take place and the guards were late to the party, so to speak.

This was going to kick off sometime soon and the gardaí are under-resourced and don't have the manpower.  There have been a few incidents in DCC recently - tourists getting battered etc. and Mc Entee spoofing that Dublin City Centre is safe.

This is a legacy issue going back a good few years but is part of the problem also.

The court system needs to change fast to tighten things up also and hopefully this will be the spark to get things back on the level. 

So the stabbing of the children and adults created a crazy mob to come out and the Garda were at fault for not having enough police officers available (could have been for multiple reasons, under resourced or short staffed)  ah f**k it let's blame the peelers for not being on duty or close by or stay on longer for their shift to sort out a bunch of mindless whores.

If there are cutbacks then that's on the government

Let's blame the scumbags that did it, reserve any blame for them, it's like blaming a rape victim for wearing a short skirt

Who's blaming the rank and file Gardaí?

As usual, you're adding up 2 and 2 and getting 5....in order to gain anti-SF retoric traction.

It's a debate around Harris and Mc Entee.  This can be clearly seen from the 3 or 4 posts, posted by others, after my initial comment.

GDA members have no confidence in Harris. As a matter of fact, they voted a vote of no confidence in him a month or so ago.



 

[Milltown Row2]

Is Mary Lou and SF taking potshots at how the Garda (in her words) failed to prevent that riot?

Christ the night

Not sure what her words were or what you say they were but good debate this evening on Harris and Mc Entee.

A good few political parties and people in general asking questions about the gardaí.  According to reports there was widespread info. that a gathering was going to take place and the guards were late to the party, so to speak.

This was going to kick off sometime soon and the gardaí are under-resourced and don't have the manpower.  There have been a few incidents in DCC recently - tourists getting battered etc. and Mc Entee spoofing that Dublin City Centre is safe.

This is a legacy issue going back a good few years but is part of the problem also.

The court system needs to change fast to tighten things up also and hopefully this will be the spark to get things back on the level. 

So the stabbing of the children and adults created a crazy mob to come out and the Garda were at fault for not having enough police officers available (could have been for multiple reasons, under resourced or short staffed)  ah f**k it let's blame the peelers for not being on duty or close by or stay on longer for their shift to sort out a bunch of mindless whores.

If there are cutbacks then that's on the government

Let's blame the scumbags that did it, reserve any blame for them, it's like blaming a rape victim for wearing a short skirt

Who's blaming the rank and file Gardaí?

As usual, you're adding up 2 and 2 and getting 5....in order to gain anti-SF retoric traction.

It's a debate around Harris and Mc Entee.  This can be clearly seen from the 3 or 4 posts, posted by others, after my initial comment.

GDA members have no confidence in Harris. As a matter of fact, they voted a vote of no confidence in him a month or so ago.



 

So where is my anti SF stance? She was giving off about the police reaction..

"The cold truth and the reality that we must confront today is that the Gardaí lost control of the centre of our capital city. A mob was allowed to shut down the centre of the city.  Public transport locked down. People stranded in the city.

This was an unacceptable, unprecedented collapse in policing.."

[Applesisapples]

Is Mary Lou and SF taking potshots at how the Garda (in her words) failed to prevent that riot?

Christ the night

Not sure what her words were or what you say they were but good debate this evening on Harris and Mc Entee.

A good few political parties and people in general asking questions about the gardaí.  According to reports there was widespread info. that a gathering was going to take place and the guards were late to the party, so to speak.

This was going to kick off sometime soon and the gardaí are under-resourced and don't have the manpower.  There have been a few incidents in DCC recently - tourists getting battered etc. and Mc Entee spoofing that Dublin City Centre is safe.

This is a legacy issue going back a good few years but is part of the problem also.

The court system needs to change fast to tighten things up also and hopefully this will be the spark to get things back on the level. 

So the stabbing of the children and adults created a crazy mob to come out and the Garda were at fault for not having enough police officers available (could have been for multiple reasons, under resourced or short staffed)  ah f**k it let's blame the peelers for not being on duty or close by or stay on longer for their shift to sort out a bunch of mindless whores.

If there are cutbacks then that's on the government

Let's blame the scumbags that did it, reserve any blame for them, it's like blaming a rape victim for wearing a short skirt

Who's blaming the rank and file Gardaí?

As usual, you're adding up 2 and 2 and getting 5....in order to gain anti-SF retoric traction.

It's a debate around Harris and Mc Entee.  This can be clearly seen from the 3 or 4 posts, posted by others, after my initial comment.

GDA members have no confidence in Harris. As a matter of fact, they voted a vote of no confidence in him a month or so ago.



 

So where is my anti SF stance? She was giving off about the police reaction..

"The cold truth and the reality that we must confront today is that the Gardaí lost control of the centre of our capital city. A mob was allowed to shut down the centre of the city.  Public transport locked down. People stranded in the city.

This was an unacceptable, unprecedented collapse in policing.."

A few of my friends from the Leinster area have been joking (with a jag) that they would not go into Dublin at night because it is unsafe and under policed. They were not really joking though. I'd say the government more than Harris has to step up. Same up here with the PSNI. Easy to defund policing as opposed to other public sector areas.

[Milltown Row2]

Is Mary Lou and SF taking potshots at how the Garda (in her words) failed to prevent that riot?

Christ the night

Not sure what her words were or what you say they were but good debate this evening on Harris and Mc Entee.

A good few political parties and people in general asking questions about the gardaí.  According to reports there was widespread info. that a gathering was going to take place and the guards were late to the party, so to speak.

This was going to kick off sometime soon and the gardaí are under-resourced and don't have the manpower.  There have been a few incidents in DCC recently - tourists getting battered etc. and Mc Entee spoofing that Dublin City Centre is safe.

This is a legacy issue going back a good few years but is part of the problem also.

The court system needs to change fast to tighten things up also and hopefully this will be the spark to get things back on the level. 

So the stabbing of the children and adults created a crazy mob to come out and the Garda were at fault for not having enough police officers available (could have been for multiple reasons, under resourced or short staffed)  ah f**k it let's blame the peelers for not being on duty or close by or stay on longer for their shift to sort out a bunch of mindless whores.

If there are cutbacks then that's on the government

Let's blame the scumbags that did it, reserve any blame for them, it's like blaming a rape victim for wearing a short skirt

Who's blaming the rank and file Gardaí?

As usual, you're adding up 2 and 2 and getting 5....in order to gain anti-SF retoric traction.

It's a debate around Harris and Mc Entee.  This can be clearly seen from the 3 or 4 posts, posted by others, after my initial comment.

GDA members have no confidence in Harris. As a matter of fact, they voted a vote of no confidence in him a month or so ago.



 

So where is my anti SF stance? She was giving off about the police reaction..

"The cold truth and the reality that we must confront today is that the Gardaí lost control of the centre of our capital city. A mob was allowed to shut down the centre of the city.  Public transport locked down. People stranded in the city.

This was an unacceptable, unprecedented collapse in policing.."

A few of my friends from the Leinster area have been joking (with a jag) that they would not go into Dublin at night because it is unsafe and under policed. They were not really joking though. I'd say the government more than Harris has to step up. Same up here with the PSNI. Easy to defund policing as opposed to other public sector areas.

Just raise the taxes (considering how good the economy is in the south) and that'll pay for extra police.

I suspect attention on Harris is completely for one reason, anyone thinks any different is fooling themselves

[Wildweasel74]

Giving out about the garda? Same outfit was taking pot shots at them years ago. Irony or what!

[Eire90]

mary lou confronted tonight