Sinn Fein? They have gone away, you know.

Started by Trevor Hill, January 18, 2010, 12:28:52 AM

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PadraicHenryPearse

Quote from: Rossfan on November 20, 2023, 08:17:18 PMWhatabout.....
You only picked 1 item to quibble with in McBride's piece I see😉

he answered your exact question...you didn't ask for a list. you asked for anything, he provided an example.

Itchy

Quote from: Rossfan on November 20, 2023, 06:39:10 PMI bet you did!

Any thing incorrect in what he wrote?

If you read one of his articles you've read them all. f**k sake the newsletter doesn't even make good toilet roll.

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Quote from: Itchy on November 20, 2023, 09:14:29 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on November 20, 2023, 06:39:10 PMI bet you did!

Any thing incorrect in what he wrote?

If you read one of his articles you've read them all. f**k sake the newsletter doesn't even make good toilet roll.

Fair play. You know your stuff.

red hander

If you're referencing certain people carrying coffins, then you have lost the argument. Robinson carried UDA mass murderer McMichael's and that sleekit wee cnut McCrea officiated at the funerals for the two UDR bastards involved in the Miami massacre.

Snapchap

Quote from: PadraicHenryPearse on November 20, 2023, 08:49:33 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on November 20, 2023, 08:17:18 PMWhatabout.....
You only picked 1 item to quibble with in McBride's piece I see😉

he answered your exact question...you didn't ask for a list. you asked for anything, he provided an example.

Which is one more than the number of questions he's answered of mine in return., I can't help but notice.

Snapchap

Quote from: Rossfan on November 20, 2023, 08:17:18 PMWhatabout.....
You only picked 1 item to quibble with in McBride's piece I see😉

Shouting "whataboutery" is the cowards way of refusing to confront his own hypocricy. If it's OK to draw a comparison between the gaza situation now and the one here 4 or 5 decades ago, then it's surely fair to go back another handful of decades and do the same thing. Straight forward question: I assume you'll have no qualms about conceeding that the Old IRA carried out any amount of war crimes too? You must have nothing but unequivocal disdain for them, just as you have for the PIRA?

Snapchap

Of course, if we want more contemporary examples of links between Irish politicians and war crimes in Gaza, I could post up last weeks picture of Micheal Martin dutifully posing in an IDF vest for an Israeli Propeganda piece?

Orior

FFS, Michelle offers good luck to the six county soccer team and they go ahead and win 2-0.
Cover me in chocolate and feed me to the lesbians

Rossfan

Any time some disgraceful Provo actions are raised along comes a supporter (or official spokesman on GAAboard) "What about the 1920s"?

I don't know what "War crimes" were carried out by the "Old IRA*".
The Free State may have at Ballyseedy and BenBulben.

*Term used for IRA up to the Treaty.

West Cork possibly and Frank Aiken killed a Protestant family in South Down or Armagh.

I wasn't a member of any of the IRAs or Free State forces from 1919 to 1923.
Davy's given us a dream to cling to
We're going to bring home the SAM

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Palestinians should move on. Whatever has been done to them is in the past. Nobody cares.

Snapchap

Quote from: Rossfan on November 20, 2023, 09:54:39 PMAny time some disgraceful Provo actions are raised along comes a supporter (or official spokesman on GAAboard) "What about the 1920s"?
Which is precisely how it should be, lest hypocrites like yourself go unchallenged.

Quote from: Rossfan on November 20, 2023, 09:54:39 PMI don't know what "War crimes" were carried out by the "Old IRA*".
The Free State may have at Ballyseedy and BenBulben.

*Term used for IRA up to the Treaty.

West Cork possibly and Frank Aiken killed a Protestant family in South Down or Armagh.

I wasn't a member of any of the IRAs or Free State forces from 1919 to 1923.

So are you saying the Old IRA didn't carry out many war crimes? Or that you're just ill-informed? Would you hold them in disdain, given that, for instance, they disappeared over 10 times the number the PIRA did (and did so in about a tenth of the time period)?

Rossfan

Informers got short shrift.
Provos chief spy catcher was the Brits chief spy.
Davy's given us a dream to cling to
We're going to bring home the SAM

Snapchap

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Quote from: Rossfan on November 20, 2023, 10:53:11 PMInformers got short shrift.
Provos chief spy catcher was the Brits chief spy.

OK that leads me to two questions:

1. Can I take that reply to mean you're you OK with an armed group disppearing victims as long as those victims were informers?
2. Have you seriously been under the impression that the Old IRA only disappeared informers?

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Leaving aside what is and isn't whataboutery, it is a fair point he makes in that Sean Kelly did deliberately target civilians or at least accept civilian and child deaths therefore this does put him squarely in the Israeli and (Hamas as well) space of how they approach war.