Connacht
Saturday
Mayo v Galway
Semi finals Feb 15th
Sligo v Roscommon
Leitrim v Galway/Mayo
Connacht final Feb 22nd
Leinster
Saturday and Friday
Wicklow v Dublin
Louth v Offaly
Carlow v Wexford
Feb 15th
Laois v Westmeath
Wicklow/Dublin v Longford
Carlow/Wexford v Meath
Louth/Offaly v Kildare
Semi finals 22/23rd of feb
Wicklow/Dublin/Longford v Carlow/Wexford/Meath
Laois/Westmeath v Louth/Offaly v Kildare
Leinster Final date N/A
Munster
Feb 19th
Clare v Waterford
Tipperary v Limerick
Semi finals 26th of Feb
Cork v Clare/Waterford
Kerry v Tipperary/Limerick
Munster Final 4/3
Ulster
Saturday
Derry v Fermanagh
Feb 15th
Cavan v Down
Donegal v Monaghan
Armagh v Tyrone
Antrim v Derry/Fermanagh
Semi finals Feb 28th/29th
Cavan/Down v Donegal/Monaghan
Armagh/Tyrone v Antrim/Derry/Fermanagh
Ulster final March 7th or 8th.
All Ireland semi finals in Croke Park March 17th
Munster winner v Connacht winner
Leinster winner v Ulster winner
All Ireland final March 28th or 29th
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The odds for the All Ireland outright winner.
Cork 7/2
Kerry 7/2
Dublin 9/2
Galway 9/1
Tyrone 11/1
Roscommon 11/1
Mayo 12/1
Kildare 14/1
Meath 14/1
Donegal 16/1
Monaghan 28/1
Armagh 28/1
The rest between 33/1 and 1000/1
Carlow as high as 15/8 to beat Wexford, who they beat by 20 points just a month ago.
any info on if wexford are expecting lads back / possible carlow injuries?
You'd wonder the rationale in getting the Connacht u20 championship wrapped up so early. A three and a half week wait for the winner is hardly ideal when the other provincial winners will have a few tough games behind them. Balla found that to their cost in 2018 in the Connacht junior club championship that twiddling your thumbs waiting isn't ideal.
Quote from: Farrandeelin on February 06, 2020, 10:19:19 PM
You'd wonder the rationale in getting the Connacht u20 championship wrapped up so early. A three and a half week wait for the winner is hardly ideal when the other provincial winners will have a few tough games behind them. Balla found that to their cost in 2018 in the Connacht junior club championship that twiddling your thumbs waiting isn't ideal.
A bit odd that the Connacht championship is so rushed off. Would make more sense to play the final on the first Saturday in March.
JP taking a holiday?
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Thats a very young Galway team, don't know what age Alan Greene is but off the rest of the outfield players only Tierney, Fitzgerald & Glynn are overage next year. 4 of last years U17's team are starting.
Quote from: Maroon Manc on February 07, 2020, 04:43:59 PM
Thats a very young Galway team, don't know what age Alan Greene is but off the rest of the outfield players only Tierney, Fitzgerald & Glynn are overage next year. 4 of last years U17's team are starting.
Is Cian Monaghan not overage next year also?
You're right though it's a very young team. I read somewhere Tierney is the only survivor from last years starting team
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Quote from: Maroon Manc on February 07, 2020, 04:43:59 PM
Thats a very young Galway team, don't know what age Alan Greene is but off the rest of the outfield players only Tierney, Fitzgerald & Glynn are overage next year. 4 of last years U17's team are starting.
Is Cian Monaghan not overage next year also?
You're right though it's a very young team. I read somewhere Tierney is the only survivor from last years starting team
Yes you're right, got him and Ryan mixed up. Fairly sure Glynn & Fitzgerald played against Roscommon 2 years ago but don't think either played championship football last year. Brian Harlowe certainly played in a few of the games against Cork/Kerry, strange one he's not deemed good enough this year despite been a year older.
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Quote from: Maroon Manc on February 07, 2020, 04:43:59 PM
Thats a very young Galway team, don't know what age Alan Greene is but off the rest of the outfield players only Tierney, Fitzgerald & Glynn are overage next year. 4 of last years U17's team are starting.
Is Cian Monaghan not overage next year also?
You're right though it's a very young team. I read somewhere Tierney is the only survivor from last years starting team
Yes you're right, got him and Ryan mixed up.
Weather conditions will probably make a balls of this game
Quote from: Maroon Manc on February 07, 2020, 04:43:59 PM
Thats a very young Galway team, don't know what age Alan Greene is but off the rest of the outfield players only Tierney, Fitzgerald & Glynn are overage next year. 4 of last years U17's team are starting.
Think Mayo have 10 or 11 of last year's team so they could have the physical advantage over a younger albeit talented Galway side. Especially in what is looking like a wet windy day. It will likely be a right slog in those conditions.
Quote from: KOTS3 on February 06, 2020, 04:40:27 PM
Carlow as high as 15/8 to beat Wexford, who they beat by 20 points just a month ago.
any info on if wexford are expecting lads back / possible carlow injuries?
The Carlow team
Kuba Budiscz; Jonah Dunne, Keagan Bradley, Luke Bradley; Jamie Lunney, Jack McCullagh, Finbarr Kavanagh; Luke Connolly, Niall Hickey; Cormac Lomax, Dinny Farrell, Diarmuid Ruth; Andrew Keogh, Cathal O'Neill, Ronan Curran.
And Wexford
Anthony Larkin; Ryan Furlong, Ciaran Kavanagh, Liam Cooper; Niall Murphy, Sam Audsley, Ciaran Reegan; Liam Coleman, Tiernan Neville; Shane Pettit, Paudie Hughes, Column Feeney; Todd Hynes, Diarmuid Barry, Sean Forde.
Subs: Joshua Burke, Diarmuid Kehoe, Fiachra Hourihane, Nathan O’Connor, Colm Parnell, James Byrne, Cormac Cooney, Micheal Carroll, Garbhan MacCormack, Mossy Murphy, Conor Kehoe, Adam Fleming, Peter O’Neill, Reece Broaders, Ben O’Connor
Big turnaround from the League result. Wexford 3-08 Carlow 2-09.
DUBLIN (U20FC v Wicklow)
1 Josh O'Neill St Vincent's
2 Alan Murphy Lucan Sarsfields
3 Adam Rafter Na Fianna
4 Josh Bannon St Sylvester's
5 Rory Dwyer St Margaret's
6 Adam Waddick Thomas Davis
7 Adam Fearon Skerries Harps
8 Killian McGinnis Skerries Harps
9 Evan Caulfield Clanna Gael Fontenoy
10 Mark Lavin Lucan Sarsfields
11 Lorcan O'Dell Templeogue Synge St
12 Seán Lowry St Vincent's
13 Ciarán Archer St Maur's
14 Luke Swan Castleknock
15 Kieran McKeon Clontarf
Mayo leading 8-2 at half time. Galway with the wind now.
ET in Castlebar. 0.10 each at full time
8-2 to Galway in the 2nd half. Galway back to 15 men for extra time T Culhane saw red towards the end of that game
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Galway 1.11. Mayo 0.12. HT. in ET. Mayo with strong wind in 2ind half
Paul Towey with his 9th point level again in MacHale Park. 1-11 to 0-14. Two minutes to play.
Penalties required in MacHale Park. Awful way to decide the outcome of a championship match. Galway win on penalties. Hard luck Mayo.
Very harsh to put young lads out in a day like this and to decide it on penalties. I'm sure both sides would have preferred another day out after extra time.
Great to get the win. Absolutely it's a ridiculous way to decide a championship match.
Fookin disgusting way to finish a championship knockout game , easy solution was a replay on wed evening , both sides would of preferred it . Best of luck to Galway though , good side .
The game shouldve been called off to begin with. These penalties are wearing the patience thin, despite the fact that Galway keep winning them. Pleasantly surprised such a young Galway side could hold their own.
Quote from: Manning18 on February 08, 2020, 04:48:38 PM
The game shouldve been called off to begin with. These penalties are wearing the patience thin, despite the fact that Galway keep winning them. Pleasantly surprised such a young Galway side could hold their own.
For once we agree . It's sickening , it's old fashioned knock out ffs, most of these lads will never wear a county jersey again if in last year underage , think it's heartless tbh .
Another game against Galway, another loss. Getting pretty sick of it at this stage. Terrible conditions to begin with. Could they have not left it for one more week? Push the other semis back a week too. No, play it in the shittest of shitty weather.
Quote from: Farrandeelin on February 08, 2020, 05:03:51 PM
Another game against Galway, another loss. Getting pretty sick of it at this stage. Terrible conditions to begin with. Could they have not left it for one more week? Push the other semis back a week too. No, play it in the shittest of shitty weather.
Agree with the above and all prior posts.
Why does the Connacht council not take the flax for this mess, ie not rescheduling or even asking both teams after extra time did they prefer a replay.
Pure daftness/ stupidly.
The result may not have changed either way.
Good luck to Galway.
I think every province will have penalties if required. For some daft reason this way of deciding championship games was voted in at congress.
Galway now go on to face Leitrim in the semi final next Saturday.
Other results from today
Offaly 2-6 Louth 0-9
Derry 1-13 Fermanagh 1-8 AET
Interesting how Galway allowed their players play with their colleges where as Mike Solan and his management team refused.
I even heard that a player not making the Mayo panel of 24 was not allowed to tog with his college in a Freshers competition.
Another player broke ranks and was dropped.
Great result for Galway and football.
James is OK for a while !!!
I can understand why penalties are required after a replay but for a championship game on the 8th of February is just ridiculous.
Galways brilliant run at underage continues over Mayo, Galway must have only lost 1 of the last 11 or 12 games at underage level to Mayo and even then that win was in extra time and Galway went on to reach the minor final.
Games for this weekend. All on Saturday at 2pm. (weather permitting)
Leinster quarter-finals
Dublin v Longford, Parnell Park
Wexford v Meath, St Patricks Park, Enniscorthy
Kildare v Offaly, Newbridge
Laois v Westmeath, O'Moore Park, 2pm
Connacht semi-finals
Roscommon v Sligo, Markievicz Park
Leitrim v Galway, Pairc Sean MacDiarmada
Ulster quarter-finals
Cavan v Down, Breffni Park
Donegal v Monaghan, Ballybofey
Armagh v Tyrone, Athletic Grounds
Antrim v Derry, Glenavy
An Armagh & Tyrone team play each other in the Macrory Cup Saturday morning...............swiftly followed by the same two counties playing each other in the Under 20 Cship.
You couldnt make this shit up :o :o ;D ;D
What age do ye Nordies stay in school to?
Galway
1. Conor Flaherty
2. Jonathan McGrath
3 Seán Fitzgerald
4 Jack Glynn
5 Cian Monahan
6 Tony Gill
7 Cathal Sweeney
8 Conor Raftery
9 James McLaughlin
10 Ryan Monahan
11 Matthew Tierney
12 Paul Kelly
13 Alan Greene
14 Tomo Culhane
15 Matthew Cooley
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The Leitrim v Galway game moved from Carrick to Mohill. With storm Dennis arriving tomorrow I would expect a few games will be called off.
A lot of games will probably be impacted by the rain today.
Would it not be plausible for pitch covers to be used in circumstances like this when heavy rain is forecast, the type of covers you see them roll out at Wimbledon to keep the courts dry.
Obviously I know the sheer scale of a football pitch in comparison to a tennis court is huge and the cost and practicalities could be an issue.
But surely in circumstances like this, in a squeezed calendar, there should be ways and means to thwart heavy spells of rain when it is well forecasted in advance?
Armagh v Tyrone off
Cavan v Down, off
Donegal v Monaghan off
Antrim v Derry off
Leitrim v Galway is off
Half times in the games that went ahead
Sligo 1-1 Roscommon 1-6
Dublin 1-3 Longford 0-6
Kildare 0-2 Offaly 0-6
Wexford 1-2 Meath 0-4
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Meath 1-12
Wexford 1-05
Other two results
Sligo 1-8 Roscommon 1-11
Offaly 0-9 Kildare 1-7
Quote from: Angelo on February 15, 2020, 11:32:44 AM
A lot of games will probably be impacted by the rain today.
Would it not be plausible for pitch covers to be used in circumstances like this when heavy rain is forecast, the type of covers you see them roll out at Wimbledon to keep the courts dry.
Obviously I know the sheer scale of a football pitch in comparison to a tennis court is huge and the cost and practicalities could be an issue.
But surely in circumstances like this, in a squeezed calendar, there should be ways and means to thwart heavy spells of rain when it is well forecasted in advance?
They should just had a penalty shoot out to decide all games
Or Counties could have proper pitches in their County grounds, like us and Sligo e.g.
Re-fixtures
Ulster quarter-finals
Antrim v Derry Friday 21st Feb, 7.45pm at the Dub Sports Arena
Armagh v Tyrone Saturday 22nd Feb, 1pm at the Athletic Grounds
Cavan v Down Saturday 22nd Feb, 1pm at Breffni Park
Donegal v Monaghan Saturday 22nd Feb, 1pm at Ballybofey
The one remaining Leinster quarter-final
Laois v Westmeath tonight in O'Moore Park at 730.
Connacht semi final Leitrim v Galway to be confirmed tonight.
Laois 0-13 Westmeath 1-10 after extra time
Laois win 4-3 on penalties
Quote from: The Boy Wonder on February 17, 2020, 09:44:33 PM
Laois 0-13 Westmeath 1-10 after extra time
Laois win 4-3 on penalties
Has to be said again , poor form this penalties Shiite.
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Laois 0-13 Westmeath 1-10 after extra time
Laois win 4-3 on penalties
Has to be said again , poor form this penalties Shiite.
Totally agree. Still no word on when Leitrim v Galway will be played?
I see the Connacht final is pushed back from February 22nd to March 7th now.
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Laois 0-13 Westmeath 1-10 after extra time
Laois win 4-3 on penalties
Has to be said again , poor form this penalties Shiite.
Totally agree. Still no word on when Leitrim v Galway will be played?
I see the Connacht final is pushed back from February 22nd to March 7th now.
Good job the Galway/Mayo game was sorted out with Penalties! That decision really freed up the Calendar. They'd never get this competition finished otherwise!
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Laois 0-13 Westmeath 1-10 after extra time
Laois win 4-3 on penalties
Has to be said again , poor form this penalties Shiite.
Totally agree. Still no word on when Leitrim v Galway will be played?
I see the Connacht final is pushed back from February 22nd to March 7th now.
I'd have thought next Saturday?
Leitrim v Galway confirmed for next Saturday in Carrick-on-Shannon at 2pm.
Quote from: Rossfan on February 15, 2020, 09:25:52 PM
Or Counties could have proper pitches in their County grounds, like us and Sligo e.g.
Markievicz was resurfaced meaning it was out of commission from summer 2018 for a year. A superb job done on it as it was in brilliant shape last Saturday. Pity we couldn't have nicked a result.
Munster quarter final results. Limerick: 0-7 Tipperary: 0-6. Clare: 3-14 Waterford: 0-6.
Semi final line up
Cork v Clare
Kerry v Limerick.
Due to the continued bad weather Leitrim have lost home advantage for their semi final v Galway. Now fixed for Elphin tomorrow.
Surprised it wasnt Prentydome.
Leinster semi final result in Portlaoise.
Laois 1-7 Kildare 0-4
Ulster quarter final result
Antrim 1-9 Derry 2-4
Antrim beating Derry would be a fair shock?
Did Antrim not beat Louth who beat youse a few weeks ago?
Kildare are sunshine footballers.
Seriously who the f**k decides to play championship football in February in these conditions?
Further they asked Laois to play 2 games including extra time in 5 days.
The GAA don't give a shit about player welfare.
Quote from: bannside on February 21, 2020, 10:27:50 PM
Did Antrim not beat Louth who beat youse a few weeks ago?
Wouldn't pay much heed to warm up competitions.
It's only one match. Long way to go.
Half time in the 3 remaining Ulster Quarter-finals
Armagh 0-3 Tyrone 0-3 - Tyrone no 4 Ryan Jones received a straight red card a few minutes before the break
Cavan 0-4 Down 0-5
Donegal 1-5 Monaghan 0-5 - A converted penalty on 24 minutes the difference so far
Full times
Armagh 0-8 Tyrone 1-5 extra time to be played
Cavan 0-8 Down 1-11
Donegal 2-8 Monaghan 1-11 extra time to be played
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Full times
Armagh 0-8 Tyrone 1-5 extra time to be played
Cavan 0-8 Dublin 1-11
Donegal 2-8 Monaghan 1-11 extra time to be played
Just because no one can beat them in Leinster shouldn't mean Dublin move to Ulster ! ;D
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Full times
Armagh 0-8 Tyrone 1-5 extra time to be played
Cavan 0-8 Dublin 1-11
Donegal 2-8 Monaghan 1-11 extra time to be played
Just because no one can beat them in Leinster shouldn't mean Dublin move to Ulster ! ;D
Was trying to make Cavan folk feel better about their defeat ;)
Dublin leading Meath 2-9 to 0-3.
Monaghan 1-12 Donegal 2-9. penalties required.
FT AET Armagh 0-8 Tyrone 1-9. Only 4 scores in extra time and all for Tyrone.
Galway 1-11 Leitrim 0-2 with about 5 mins left.
Results
Galway 1-12 Leitrim 0-2
Donegal won 3-1 on penalties
Meath 0-7 Dublin 2-14
Very disappointing result after beating them last year with a similar squad of players. Hard to keep the faith when underage results are so poor despite all the effort and resources pouring in.
Shane Walsh sat on the stands to save him for tomorrow's game.
What's the draw in ulster for Semis?
Tyrone v Antrim down v Donegal
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What's the draw in ulster for Semis?
Page 1 of this thread. Big Frank right.
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Very disappointing result after beating them last year with a similar squad of players. Hard to keep the faith when underage results are so poor despite all the effort and resources pouring in.
Shane Walsh sat on the stands to save him for tomorrow's game.
A surprise that Meath did so poorly today when you consider they won Leinster U17 2017 and 2018.
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Very disappointing result after beating them last year with a similar squad of players. Hard to keep the faith when underage results are so poor despite all the effort and resources pouring in.
Shane Walsh sat on the stands to save him for tomorrow's game.
A surprise that Meath did so poorly today when you consider they won Leinster U17 2017 and 2018.
Yeah, I suppose if you take Walsh and Cian McBride out of that U17 team it doesn't help but the difference in the sides shouldn't have been so great. Apparently it was over as a contest after 10mins.
Half times in the Munster semi finals
Cork: 1-4 Clare: 2-2
Kerry 0-6 Limerick 0-3
Results
Cork 1-12 Clare 2-7
Kerry 0-14 Limerick 0-7
Final next Wednesday.
Half time in Ulster semi finals
Antrim 0-4 Tyrone 0-2
Donegal 0-5 Down 0-5
Results
Antrim 0-9 Tyrone 0-11
Donegal 1-11 Down 0-12
Motion to set February/March as time for U20 withdrawn for further consideration for Special Congress.
Are any of these upcoming four provincial finals on TV? I haven't seen any highlights of any games thus far on TV. Since U21 became U20 the coverage on these games has become less and less it seems.
Tomorrow Munster final Kerry v Cork, Austin Stack Park, 7.30pm. Cork had a easy win over Kerry in the final last year, Kerry 3-12 Cork 1-19 in the league encounter in January. Kerry won the Munster U17 championships 2017,18 and 19
Friday Leinster final Dublin v Laois Cullen Park on Friday at 7.30pm. Dublin won the final by a bit to spare last year. They met in the league earlier this year with Dublin winning with a late goal. The Dubs are 2/9 to win with Laois quoted at 9/2
Saturday Connacht final Galway v Roscommon Tuam at 2pm. Galway bet Roscommon in the semi final last year, in 2018 Galway won the U17 Connacht final beating Roscommon in the final the opposite happened in 2017. Last year at U17 Roscommon beat Galway but Galway recovered to reach the AI final.
Saturday Ulster final Donegal v Tyrone Clones at 3pm. Tyrone are the defending Ulster champions and in their ranks they have plenty of players that won the 2017 AI title, that year however Donegal pushed them all the way in their Ulster encounter and they are sure to be high on confidence after knocking out Monaghan whom won the last two Ulster U17 championships.
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Are any of these upcoming four provincial finals on TV? I haven't seen any highlights of any games thus far on TV. Since U21 became U20 the coverage on these games has become less and less it seems.
GAA Beo on TG4
- Munster Final Cork v Kerry Wed 04-March
- Leinster Final Dublin v Laois Fri 06-March
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Are any of these upcoming four provincial finals on TV? I haven't seen any highlights of any games thus far on TV. Since U21 became U20 the coverage on these games has become less and less it seems.
GAA Beo on TG4
- Munster Final Cork v Kerry Wed 04-March
- Leinster Final Dublin v Laois Fri 06-March
Saw that earlier on twitter, hopefully they'll show the other 2 as well.
Half time Cork 1-6 Kerry 0-5. The defending champions Cork well worth their 4 point lead.
Number 14 and 15 wreaking havoc.
Decent game this.
10 minutes to play. Kerry 0-12 Cork 1-8
Full time Kerry 0-17 Cork 1-9. Congratulations Kerry very impressive 2nd half.
That was an enjoyable game. Kerry were excellent in the second half.
Would be no shock if the two managers on the sideline end up as senior managers from Cork and Kerry down the line.
Cork really went out of the game in the 2nd half.
Kerry probably favs for the All-Ireland now.
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Are any of these upcoming four provincial finals on TV? I haven't seen any highlights of any games thus far on TV. Since U21 became U20 the coverage on these games has become less and less it seems.
GAA Beo on TG4
- Munster Final Cork v Kerry Wed 04-March
- Leinster Final Dublin v Laois Fri 06-March
Saw that earlier on twitter, hopefully they'll show the other 2 as well.
When Tg4 released their list of games at the start of the year, it only had the Munster and Leinster finals on it.
They will broadcast both the semi-finals on St Paddys Day and the final.
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Are any of these upcoming four provincial finals on TV? I haven't seen any highlights of any games thus far on TV. Since U21 became U20 the coverage on these games has become less and less it seems.
GAA Beo on TG4
- Munster Final Cork v Kerry Wed 04-March
- Leinster Final Dublin v Laois Fri 06-March
Saw that earlier on twitter, hopefully they'll show the other 2 as well.
When Tg4 released their list of games at the start of the year, it only had the Munster and Leinster finals on it.
They will broadcast both the semi-finals on St Paddys Day and the final.
Same two provincial finals TG4 showed last year. Why not show them all or at least swap them around?
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Are any of these upcoming four provincial finals on TV? I haven't seen any highlights of any games thus far on TV. Since U21 became U20 the coverage on these games has become less and less it seems.
GAA Beo on TG4
- Munster Final Cork v Kerry Wed 04-March
- Leinster Final Dublin v Laois Fri 06-March
Saw that earlier on twitter, hopefully they'll show the other 2 as well.
When Tg4 released their list of games at the start of the year, it only had the Munster and Leinster finals on it.
They will broadcast both the semi-finals on St Paddys Day and the final.
Same two provincial finals TG4 showed last year. Why not show them all or at least swap them around?
If someone covers one or two provincial finals they really should show the lot.
Amazing they're not showing 2 Finals with Gaeltacht Counties involved.
Couldn't see last nights game, not on Gaago or TG4's youtube channel.
That Kerry team is backboned by the 2018 minor team so most are underage next year, thought at the time that game between Kerry & Galway was one of the best minor finals I'd seen in a while in terms of quality. Lets hope its a positive sign for Galway this weekend but Galway are likelier to be even younger with several of last years minor team likely to start.
Leinster final teams for tonights final
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Teams for the Connacht final tomorrow
Galway
Conor Flaherty
Jonathon McGrath
Sean Fitzgerald
Jack Glynn
Cian Monahan
Tony Gill
Cathal Sweeney
Conor Raftery
James McLaughlin
Ryan Monahan
Matthew Tierney
Paul Kelly
Alan Greene
Tomo Culhane
Matthew Cooley
Roscommon
Michael O'Donnell
Pearse Frost
Colin Walsh
Dylan Gaughan
Cian Murray
Niall Higgins
Paul McGrath
Keith Doyle
Ciaran Lawless
Ruairi Fallon
Paul McManus
Paul Carey
Adam McDermott
Darragh Walsh
Peter Gillooly
Leinster final delayed by 15 minutes.
Half time Dublin 0-11 Laois 0-5. Dublin have taken over after a slow start.
Laois's own kickouts completely killed them.
Dublin probably won something like 10 of Laois's 15 kickouts.
All over Dublin U20 Leinster champions for the 2nd year in a row. Dublin 0-18 Laois 0-8. Laois night summed up with a penalty kicked wide late on.
Dublin's have won 9 out of the last 12 Leinster U21/U20 titles compared to 7 in the previous 45 years.
They've won 4 All-Irelands in the last 9 years compared to 1 in the previous 46 years.
How cheap is that Leinster cup that the handle broke off?
Looks a better Dublin team this year. Very reliant on Archer last year. Seem to have more scoring options at least.
Quote from: twohands!!! on March 06, 2020, 09:16:08 PM
Dublin's have won 9 out of the last 12 Leinster U21/U20 titles compared to 7 in the previous 45 years.
They've won 4 All-Irelands in the last 9 years compared to 1 in the previous 46 years.
Just goes to show that the volunteers in Dublin GAA have really upped their game!
We must all try harder!
The old 1.3 million population probably nothing to do with it.
The few bits I saw of the game they seemed well on top.
Hope we can surprise Galway tomorrow but sadly unlikely.
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on March 06, 2020, 09:18:57 PM
Looks a better Dublin team this year. Very reliant on Archer last year. Seem to have more scoring options at least.
O'Dell and Lavin were very good in first half. McKeon kicked a nice few scores at the end. Archer was very good from placed balls.
Quote from: Rossfan on March 06, 2020, 10:02:38 PM
Hope we can surprise Galway tomorrow but sadly unlikely.
Very young Galway team, majority are underage next year as well, a Rossie win wouldn't be that much of a shock tbh.
Quote from: From the Bunker on March 06, 2020, 09:22:23 PM
Quote from: twohands!!! on March 06, 2020, 09:16:08 PM
Dublin's have won 9 out of the last 12 Leinster U21/U20 titles compared to 7 in the previous 45 years.
They've won 4 All-Irelands in the last 9 years compared to 1 in the previous 46 years.
Just goes to show that the volunteers in Dublin GAA have really upped their game!
We must all try harder!
Best volunteers in the world, apparently
The previous volunteers before 2001 should be ashamed of their efforts
Haha, very good, Volunteer A listers
Quote from: Rossfan on March 06, 2020, 10:02:38 PM
The old 1.3 million population probably nothing to do with it.
The few bits I saw of the game they seemed well on top.
Hope we can surprise Galway tomorrow but sadly unlikely.
We should always be competitive with our population. These lads pretty much all have two seasons under their belt playing adult club football in Dublin, which is a super training ground for them. The strategy at minor level to pick the most naturally skillful and help them get bigger and stronger doesn't often reap rewards at minor level but starts to bear fruit at U20. I think some counties pick the naturally big and strong lads at minor and try to make them more skillful.
A pity for the game that Laois saved their worst performance for the final. Not much went right for them after the opening quarter.
Dubs aren't at the class of Kerry in my view, but I'd expect the semi against the Ulster champions to tight.
Quote from: Hound on March 07, 2020, 08:10:22 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on March 06, 2020, 10:02:38 PM
The old 1.3 million population probably nothing to do with it.
The few bits I saw of the game they seemed well on top.
Hope we can surprise Galway tomorrow but sadly unlikely.
We should always be competitive with our population. These lads pretty much all have two seasons under their belt playing adult club football in Dublin, which is a super training ground for them. The strategy at minor level to pick the most naturally skillful and help them get bigger and stronger doesn't often reap rewards at minor level but starts to bear fruit at U20. I think some counties pick the naturally big and strong lads at minor and try to make them more skillful.
A pity for the game that Laois saved their worst performance for the final. Not much went right for them after the opening quarter.
Dubs aren't at the class of Kerry in my view, but I'd expect the semi against the Ulster champions to tight.
14 of team eligible next year. Great to see players from the smaller clubs. Agree kerry is the team to beat. Anything further happens is on bonus considering this group of players didn't make a impression at minor 2 years ago.
Is the Donegal v Tyrone game on anywhere?
Galway 4-8 Ros 0-4 ten mins gone second half.
FT
Galway 4-13 Roscommon 0-5
Tough on the Rossies. Good Galway side on paper in fairness. They will have a right chance against Kerry.
Got no right match today at all so the team is very untested going into the semi final against a really good Kerry team.
Cork put it up to Kerry in the first half of the Munster final at least.
A big surprise that Galway got it so easy this afternoon but that's underage football sometimes. The poor weather suited Galway better and they really killed Roscommon on every mistake they made which was a lot. Kerry v Galway makes for a intriguing semi final now.
Ulster final result. Tyrone 1-11 Donegal 0-9
Good win for Tyrone, the performances in the early rounds weren't too encouraging.
Is Ethan Jordan anything to Roisin?
Good day at the office for Tyrone against a side we just about beat on way to winning the u17 AI 3 years ago. A lot of excellent performances with Ethan Jordan getting the motm award, however, I thought Michael Gallagher from Trillick put in a serious shift and never stopped the whole game.
Our midfield came out on top and, alongside our HB line, drove us forward all game. Big difference was Donegal were really slow moving it into attack and played laterally across the 45 over and over again. Antoin Fox done a very good job nullifying their danger man Doherty.
Huge challenge awaits in the Dubs in semi final, however, I think we'll give them a real good rattle.
Wasn't expecting a win yesterday but expected we'd at least have been reasonably competitive.
An inept, disorganised show and of course everything that could go wrong went wrong for us.
Galway looked good but hard to judge on this.
One to erase from the memory and hope it doesn't damage the playing careers of the lads involved.
Is it a double header for the semis on St Patrick's day?
When is the final due to be held? The following Saturday?
Quote from: Angelo on March 08, 2020, 01:51:12 PM
Is it a double header for the semis on St Patrick's day?
When is the final due to be held? The following Saturday?
Yes and as I stated on page 1 of this thread March 28th or 29th for the final.
I don't like having the semis and final at Croke Park personally.
There's been some cracking games at u20 and u21 level in recent years and the atmosphere will be totally lost in it at Croke Park not to mention the home advantage for the Dubs.
I'd say the CCCC are meeting this very minute to accede to Angelo's wishes.
Quote from: Angelo on March 08, 2020, 03:17:47 PM
I don't like having the semis and final at Croke Park personally.
There's been some cracking games at u20 and u21 level in recent years and the atmosphere will be totally lost in it at Croke Park not to mention the home advantage for the Dubs.
Semi finals are only in Croke Park to fill the void left with the club finals. The final will likely be played along side the NFL finals in Croke Park.
I think it would be better to play those games in smaller grounds.
I doubt the GAA are that hard up for a few euro that they need the double header in Croke Park
Kerry are hardly going to bring a huge following
Neither will Dublin or Galway. Those 2 plus Kerry will hardly bring 5k between them.
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Quote from: Angelo on March 08, 2020, 03:17:47 PM
I don't like having the semis and final at Croke Park personally.
There's been some cracking games at u20 and u21 level in recent years and the atmosphere will be totally lost in it at Croke Park not to mention the home advantage for the Dubs.
Semi finals are only in Croke Park to fill the void left with the club finals. The final will likely be played along side the NFL finals in Croke Park.
I think it would be better to play those games in smaller grounds.
I'd agree, I think Croke Park should only be for semi finals and finals in the AI series, you're generally not going to draw a crowd of 30/40k plus outside of those games.
I think the team who tops the league should get home advantage for the final.
There's nothing worse than watching a game in a quarter empty Croke Park. I know there's this thing about giving the players the chance to play at Croke Park but I don't know if that's really an appeal. If I was a player playing in something that will probably be the highlight of a lot of these guys playing careers, I think I'd rather play in a full stadium in some place in Mullingar or Longford than an empty Croke Park that quarter the lower tier of one stand occupied.
I think when you see these games played in Croke Park with nobody there, it devalues them.
I think from that Galway team that started only Tierney, Fitzgerald, Glynn & Greene are overage next year so can't see too many making the senior panel inside the next 18 months. I think Tierney will be straight in after he's finished with the 20's, I watched the full Kerry game recently and he did better than I first thought.
It will be interesting to see how they do against Kerry, Galway were missing Tierney and the two Monaghans in the 2 previous games this year. I think Galway will get a lot more out of this team then last years going forward.
St Patrick's Day Parade in Dublin cancelled GAA still going ahead with that double header in Croke Park?
It would be more surprising if they went ahead in CP at this stage.
Alternative venues could be either the Gaelic Grounds or Ennis for Galway / Kerry & possibly Breffni or Mullingar for the Dubs & Tyrone?
October 17th
All-Ireland semi-finals
Dublin v Tyrone, Kingspan Breffni Park, 2.30pm
Galway v Kerry, Gaelic Grounds, 4.30pm
Covid willing.
More unfortunate news for Galway. Looks like it just won't be the Moycullen players missing.
QuoteThis would mean that two of Galway U20's most prominent players, Paul Kelly and James McLaughlin, will miss Saturday's All-Ireland semi-final showdown against Kerry and manager Donal O'Fátharta could only bemoan the timing of the situation.
"I was talking to the doctor and I can't comment on names or anything but, with close contacts, we will be down five players, and possibly more. It has just disrupted things this week. Look it, it is what it is. We just have to get on with it."
It's a good Galway team but hard to see them overcoming Kerry with the loss of so many players, only know about the Moycullen lads for sure to date but two of them are absolutely key lads to be down already before adding in any more players.
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on October 15, 2020, 06:40:14 PM
It's a good Galway team but hard to see them overcoming Kerry with the loss of so many players, only know about the Moycullen lads for sure to date but two of them are absolutely key lads to be down already before adding in any more players.
It's a real shame alright. I was looking forward to this game more than the seniors playing on Sunday but hard not to feel Galway are fatally compromised now. Still everyone's health is the priority. Galway just unlucky this time but they won't be the last team it happens to if the games go ahead at all over the next couple months.
Looks like Kerry will be missing a few players due to Covid as well
They'd nearly be as well to postpone it at this stage. Granted would it ever get played at all then you'd fear. Plus they would probably have to end up postponing a rake of games.
My feeling is that (including Senior in this) they won't countenance a postponement of a match at any point until they got as far as the Senior football and hurling semi final stages which they could kick into 2021 if need be.
The decision will be made for them next week by the looks of it anyway, but a lot of the hand wringing over the GAA should be taken in context, case numbers are rising all over Europe again, they are not blaming the local GAA clubs in France or Germany for this.
County finals certainly provided an excuse, that has to be owned by members of the organisation who couldn't control themselves, it happened up and down the island. They all knew what was to be done and didn't do it, over exuberance doesn't really cut it as an excuse but that's what plenty of people said at the time.
I think there's a more than fair chance the final for this competition doesn't go ahead next weekend no matter who wins tomorrow, tough on the lads involved that have to miss out and have to live with their county losing, tough on the others who win tomorrow and probably find out it's for naught.
Let's just say Kerry, Galway could field teams due to covid what then, the winner of Dublin v Tyrone becomes All-Ireland champions?
Half Time
Tyrone: 1-07
Dublin: 1-05
Will be Tyrone/Kerry final. We should beat Galway handy enough. Tyrone will be tough in final. Young Cananavan looks a handy footballer.
Dublin into the U20 All Ireland final for a 2nd year in a row. Can they go one better than last year and win it this time?
FT Dublin 1-14 Tyrone 1-12
Cathal Sweeney and Culhane not starting for Galway either, huge ask now with those lads, McLaughin and Kelly out.
Tomo Culhane and Cathal Sweeney both missing as well for Galway. Two more serious losses. That's probably 4 of their best 5 players out.
Kerry intercounty and clubs have never lost in Gaelic Grounds to Connacht opposition. I wonder will the top brass let play final against Dublin here. Known Gaa they will play in Portlaoise in case the dubs get lost 😂😂
Just switched over, what's the situation with Kerry how many likely starters are they without?
Quote from: kerryforsam20 on October 17, 2020, 03:59:53 PM
Kerry intercounty and clubs have never lost in Gaelic Grounds to Connacht opposition. I wonder will the top brass let play final against Dublin here. Known Gaa they will play in Portlaoise in case the dubs get lost 😂😂
At senior level maybe, Mayo hammered Kerry minors in Limerick a few years ago, was a SF replay.
Considering the players missing that was a decent half of football. Kerry 1-7 to 1-5 ahead.
Still in the game anyway but kickouts have been a bit of a disaster. Won't win kicking that many away.
Quote from: Tubberman on October 17, 2020, 04:05:01 PM
Quote from: kerryforsam20 on October 17, 2020, 03:59:53 PM
Kerry intercounty and clubs have never lost in Gaelic Grounds to Connacht opposition. I wonder will the top brass let play final against Dublin here. Known Gaa they will play in Portlaoise in case the dubs get lost 😂😂
At senior level maybe, Mayo hammered Kerry minors in Limerick a few years ago, was a SF replay.
In 08? Forgot that played in Limerick. Had Ennis in my head.
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on October 17, 2020, 03:59:19 PM
Tomo Culhane and Cathal Sweeney both missing as well for Galway. Two more serious losses. That's probably 4 of their best 5 players out.
Absolutely these 4 are our best players alongside Tierney who hasn't played well in quite a while.
Very noticeable how much of a loss Culhane is in the inside line.
Quote from: galwayman on October 17, 2020, 04:45:26 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on October 17, 2020, 03:59:19 PM
Tomo Culhane and Cathal Sweeney both missing as well for Galway. Two more serious losses. That's probably 4 of their best 5 players out.
Absolutely these 4 are our best players alongside Tierney who hasn't played well in quite a while.
Tierney did alright in the first half there I thought. His leg looks heavily strapped though so he must be carrying some kind of knock.
Great win for Galway considering the amount of first choice players they were without.
FT Galway 1-15 Kerry 1-10.
That was a mighty win and an unexpected one given the players we were missing. I know Kerry had their own absences.
Ducky not sure yet if any of the missing players will be available for the final.
Great win. There was only one team in it in the second half.
Would the conditioning of the Kerry side be in question there? Seemed like the longer the game went on that Galway had the legs on them. Some very tired lazy tackling from their backs in particular.
Weird to think that their dominance at minor hasn't translated into U-20 at all.
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on October 17, 2020, 05:41:01 PM
That was a mighty win and an unexpected one given the players we were missing. I know Kerry had their own absences.
Ducky not sure yet if any of the missing players will be available for the final.
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on October 17, 2020, 05:41:01 PM
That was a mighty win and an unexpected one given the players we were missing. I know Kerry had their own absences.
Ducky not sure yet if any of the missing players will be available for the final.
Galway deserving winners on the day, but not an unexpected win at all given that Kerry were missing even more likely starters than Galway, and the majority were only ruled out the day before the game which would have been hugely disruptive.
Galway were solid in defence, had impressive free-taking accuracy and finished much stronger - possibly Kerry didn't have the options to bring on that they would have expected to have. Thought Kerry gave the ball away too easily with a lot of the possession they won and didn't get a good enough supply to their danger men.
Both Dublin and Galway seemed to have the legs on Tyrone and Kerry today.
Would fancy Dublin to win it, they seemed to be the most physical and athletic of all the teams involved today.
Quote from: Angelo on October 17, 2020, 06:17:27 PM
Both Dublin and Galway seemed to have the legs on Tyrone and Kerry today.
Would fancy Dublin to win it, they seemed to be the most physical and athletic of all the teams involved today.
Ciaran Archer carrying on the ability he showed at minor level. Dubs kicked some lovely points towards the end to pull away. Tyrone didn't have the same threat in their forward line
Quote from: kerryforsam20 on October 17, 2020, 02:46:05 PM
Will be Tyrone/Kerry final. We should beat Galway handy enough. Tyrone will be tough in final. Young Cananavan looks a handy footballer.
This hasn't aged too well
Delighted with that win and the overall display in general. Real pity both teams were a good bit under strength on the day. Hopefully a few of the absentees will be available for the final next weekend, if it goes ahead of course.
Quote from: Sionnach on October 17, 2020, 05:51:02 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on October 17, 2020, 05:41:01 PM
That was a mighty win and an unexpected one given the players we were missing. I know Kerry had their own absences.
Ducky not sure yet if any of the missing players will be available for the final.
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on October 17, 2020, 05:41:01 PM
That was a mighty win and an unexpected one given the players we were missing. I know Kerry had their own absences.
Ducky not sure yet if any of the missing players will be available for the final.
Galway deserving winners on the day, but not an unexpected win at all given that Kerry were missing even more likely starters than Galway, and the majority were only ruled out the day before the game which would have been hugely disruptive.
Were they? Not sure of numbers exactly and obviosuly losing Walsh for the second half was big, but if you were to pick the 5 top Galway lads this time last week, 4 of them were missing today through covid/injury.
Given all that, the lads can be very proud of themselves. Thought the 2 midfielders stood out. Essential that the Tierney injury at the end doesn't keep him out of next week
Well done Galway , a fantastic performance and more so when you consider the players unavailable. Hope ye win it now
Anyone able to pull up the list of Dublin v Galway U21 finals?
Quote from: Hound on October 17, 2020, 07:53:50 PM
Anyone able to pull up the list of Dublin v Galway U21 finals?
2002 Galway 0–15 Dublin 0-7
2017 Dublin 2-13 Galway 2-7
Dublin are a new phenomena to this competition. Since the money got involved they have been quite successful!
FTB, when you reply to me all I see is 'You are ignoring this user'
It's only because you are a complete fuckwit who can't stop crying anytime Dublin wins, so don't take it personally, but I don't see anything you post. I was taking to people who don't be roaring and crying.
Quote from: Hound on October 17, 2020, 08:17:08 PM
FTB, when you reply to me all I see is 'You are ignoring this user'
It's only because you are a complete fuckwit who can't stop crying anytime Dublin wins, so don't take it personally, but I don't see anything you post. I was taking to people who don't be roaring and crying.
Ok, What should I say. Dublin had no real history of success in this competition in the 20th Century. But the volunteer movement of the 21st Century coupled with a wave of a once in a generation group of players seen them excel in this competition from nowhere and claim a significant number of Leinster and All Ireland titles.
(despite yourself, you will still end up reading this)
Quote from: From the Bunker on October 17, 2020, 07:56:53 PM
Quote from: Hound on October 17, 2020, 07:53:50 PM
Anyone able to pull up the list of Dublin v Galway U21 finals?
2002 Galway 0–15 Dublin 0-7
2017 Dublin 2-13 Galway 2-7
Here ya go Hound.
Quote from: kerryforsam20 on October 17, 2020, 02:46:05 PM
Will be Tyrone/Kerry final. We should beat Galway handy enough. Tyrone will be tough in final. Young Cananavan looks a handy footballer.
Can you predict a Mayo win tomorrow and (assuming they are ever played) a Dublin double at U20 and in the league next week please?
Good man, thanks.
Quote from: Farrandeelin on October 17, 2020, 08:34:52 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on October 17, 2020, 07:56:53 PM
Quote from: Hound on October 17, 2020, 07:53:50 PM
Anyone able to pull up the list of Dublin v Galway U21 finals?
2002 Galway 0–15 Dublin 0-7
2017 Dublin 2-13 Galway 2-7
Here ya go Hound.
Decent of you Farr to save his poor soul from the truth and delete half the quote.
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on October 17, 2020, 08:40:41 PM
Quote from: kerryforsam20 on October 17, 2020, 02:46:05 PM
Will be Tyrone/Kerry final. We should beat Galway handy enough. Tyrone will be tough in final. Young Cananavan looks a handy footballer.
Can you predict a Mayo win tomorrow and (assuming they are ever played) a Dublin double at U20 and in the league next week please?
Good man, thanks.
He already has predicted a Mayo win by 4 over on the Division 1 thread! Fair play to Galway on the win today.
Lovely stuff, we need soothsayers like that going for the opposition.
Great win earlier, real pity that both teams were deprived of some top players but lads needed to step up and when one of those players to come in from the panel takes home the MOTM award it's a testament to squad depth.
I thought Galway were well the better team in the second half but the black card on 52 minutes for Kerry was the back breaker and totally self inflicted as well, crazy stuff. Once Paul Walsh went off at ht the Galway backs cleaned Kerry out, we could do with a couple of them from that end of the pitch making the grade at Senior.
Hard know if the final will even be played but Galway would need a few of the absentees back to have a real shot at it, as was said earlier, Sweeney, McLaughin, Kelly and Culhane are as good as we have at that age group.
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on October 17, 2020, 08:57:37 PM
Lovely stuff, we need soothsayers like that going for the opposition.
Great win earlier, real pity that both teams were deprived of some top players but lads needed to step up and when one of those players to come in from the panel takes home the MOTM award it's a testament to squad depth.
I thought Galway were well the better team in the second half but the black card on 52 minutes for Kerry was the back breaker and totally self inflicted as well, crazy stuff. Once Paul Walsh went off at ht the Galway backs cleaned Kerry out, we could do with a couple of them from that end of the pitch making the grade at Senior.
Hard know if the final will even be played but Galway would need a few of the absentees back to have a real shot at it, as was said earlier, Sweeney, McLaughin, Kelly and Culhane are as good as we have at that age group.
Patrick Kelly who started today I don't think was even on the panel for the Connacht campaign?
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on October 17, 2020, 08:40:41 PM
Quote from: kerryforsam20 on October 17, 2020, 02:46:05 PM
Will be Tyrone/Kerry final. We should beat Galway handy enough. Tyrone will be tough in final. Young Cananavan looks a handy footballer.
Can you predict a Mayo win tomorrow and (assuming they are ever played) a Dublin double at U20 and in the league next week please?
Good man, thanks.
Must be Pat Spillane posting on here out of boredom :D
Quote from: Farrandeelin on October 17, 2020, 08:45:21 PM
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on October 17, 2020, 08:40:41 PM
Quote from: kerryforsam20 on October 17, 2020, 02:46:05 PM
Will be Tyrone/Kerry final. We should beat Galway handy enough. Tyrone will be tough in final. Young Cananavan looks a handy footballer.
Can you predict a Mayo win tomorrow and (assuming they are ever played) a Dublin double at U20 and in the league next week please?
Good man, thanks.
He already has predicted a Mayo win by 4 over on the Division 1 thread! Fair play to Galway on the win today.
He's a Wum with a couple of posts and is in no way from Kerry.
I'm calling it now . If Galway get their house in other there is an all Ireland there for them. The strongest 15 in Galway is a sight to behold.
Quote from: Laoiseabu on October 18, 2020, 12:10:36 AM
I'm calling it now . If Galway get their house in other there is an all Ireland there for them. The strongest 15 in Galway is a sight to behold.
::)
Tír Eoghain were excellent today and but for a missed goal chance in the first half could have reached the final. Paul Devlin got his tactics spot on and will be disappointed that the forwards' execution wasn't as clinical as needed. Great effort though.
Quote from: From the Bunker on October 17, 2020, 11:53:52 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on October 17, 2020, 08:45:21 PM
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on October 17, 2020, 08:40:41 PM
Quote from: kerryforsam20 on October 17, 2020, 02:46:05 PM
Will be Tyrone/Kerry final. We should beat Galway handy enough. Tyrone will be tough in final. Young Cananavan looks a handy footballer.
Can you predict a Mayo win tomorrow and (assuming they are ever played) a Dublin double at U20 and in the league next week please?
Good man, thanks.
He already has predicted a Mayo win by 4 over on the Division 1 thread! Fair play to Galway on the win today.
He's a Wum with a couple of posts and is in no way from Kerry.
Mayo by 4 points and Cillian O'Connor for 1st goalscorer . Thank me tomorrow
Well done to Galway. Our lads faded after a great start. Young Welsh was a massive loss in second half. Missing 6 starting players. Good nothing from referee. Missed a pick up for Galway free. That aside Galway were the better team. Best of luck in the final.
Quote from: restorepride on October 18, 2020, 12:26:21 AM
Tír Eoghain were excellent today and but for a missed goal chance in the first half could have reached the final. Paul Devlin got his tactics spot on and will be disappointed that the forwards' execution wasn't as clinical as needed. Great effort though.
Tyrone lost that game on kickouts which you could attribute to a tactical failure. Time and time again Dublin had easy restarts where they could build their attacks from the back. Conversely Dublin pushed up aggressively on the Tyrone kickouts and forced Quinn to kick long where Tyrone got devoured in the middle of the pitch.
Quote from: kerryforsam20 on October 18, 2020, 12:47:11 AM
Well done to Galway. Our lads faded after a great start. Young Welsh was a massive loss in second half. Missing 6 starting players. Good nothing from referee. Missed a pick up for Galway free. That aside Galway were the better team. Best of luck in the final.
You'd wonder how many butthurt Kerry fans there were actually thinking they were unlucky in the absentee stakes yesterday. A knowledgeable football county obviously so you'd hold hope, but probably a few muppets at the same time
Quote from: Angelo on October 18, 2020, 10:09:34 AM
Quote from: restorepride on October 18, 2020, 12:26:21 AM
Tír Eoghain were excellent today and but for a missed goal chance in the first half could have reached the final. Paul Devlin got his tactics spot on and will be disappointed that the forwards' execution wasn't as clinical as needed. Great effort though.
Tyrone lost that game on kickouts which you could attribute to a tactical failure. Time and time again Dublin had easy restarts where they could build their attacks from the back. Conversely Dublin pushed up aggressively on the Tyrone kickouts and forced Quinn to kick long where Tyrone got devoured in the middle of the pitch.
No sure what match you were watching - Celtic maybe?
Quote from: restorepride on October 18, 2020, 12:45:44 PM
Quote from: Angelo on October 18, 2020, 10:09:34 AM
Quote from: restorepride on October 18, 2020, 12:26:21 AM
Tír Eoghain were excellent today and but for a missed goal chance in the first half could have reached the final. Paul Devlin got his tactics spot on and will be disappointed that the forwards' execution wasn't as clinical as needed. Great effort though.
Tyrone lost that game on kickouts which you could attribute to a tactical failure. Time and time again Dublin had easy restarts where they could build their attacks from the back. Conversely Dublin pushed up aggressively on the Tyrone kickouts and forced Quinn to kick long where Tyrone got devoured in the middle of the pitch.
No the Tyrone game, I think you just fail to understand the game. Tyrone consistently wasted a lot of ball into their full forward line, kicking it straight down the neck of a few sweepers, we scored 0-01 from play in the second half, got absolutely devoured on our own kickouts. The changes off the bench we made had no impact.
You're just making yourself look incredibly stupid.
No sure what match you were watching - Celtic maybe?
Quote from: Angelo on October 18, 2020, 01:00:18 PM
Quote from: restorepride on October 18, 2020, 12:45:44 PM
Quote from: Angelo on October 18, 2020, 10:09:34 AM
Quote from: restorepride on October 18, 2020, 12:26:21 AM
Tír Eoghain were excellent today and but for a missed goal chance in the first half could have reached the final. Paul Devlin got his tactics spot on and will be disappointed that the forwards' execution wasn't as clinical as needed. Great effort though.
Tyrone lost that game on kickouts which you could attribute to a tactical failure. Time and time again Dublin had easy restarts where they could build their attacks from the back. Conversely Dublin pushed up aggressively on the Tyrone kickouts and forced Quinn to kick long where Tyrone got devoured in the middle of the pitch.
No the Tyrone game, I think you just fail to understand the game. Tyrone consistently wasted a lot of ball into their full forward line, kicking it straight down the neck of a few sweepers, we scored 0-01 from play in the second half, got absolutely devoured on our own kickouts. The changes off the bench we made had no impact.
You're just making yourself look incredibly stupid.
No sure what match you were watching - Celtic maybe?
1-4 without reply and devoured??! Hopefully you know more about your beloved soccer than your pretend GAA interest. What does some of this even mean?! Devoured by 2 points?! Give the Ulster Champions some credit.
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Quote from: kerryforsam20 on October 18, 2020, 12:47:11 AM
Well done to Galway. Our lads faded after a great start. Young Welsh was a massive loss in second half. Missing 6 starting players. Good nothing from referee. Missed a pick up for Galway free. That aside Galway were the better team. Best of luck in the final.
You'd wonder how many butthurt Kerry fans there were actually thinking they were unlucky in the absentee stakes yesterday. A knowledgeable football county obviously so you'd hold hope, but probably a few muppets at the same time
I'd say you gave yourself a couple handyshandys Tom?
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Quote from: restorepride on October 18, 2020, 12:26:21 AM
Tír Eoghain were excellent today and but for a missed goal chance in the first half could have reached the final. Paul Devlin got his tactics spot on and will be disappointed that the forwards' execution wasn't as clinical as needed. Great effort though.
Tyrone lost that game on kickouts which you could attribute to a tactical failure. Time and time again Dublin had easy restarts where they could build their attacks from the back. Conversely Dublin pushed up aggressively on the Tyrone kickouts and forced Quinn to kick long where Tyrone got devoured in the middle of the pitch.
No the Tyrone game, I think you just fail to understand the game. Tyrone consistently wasted a lot of ball into their full forward line, kicking it straight down the neck of a few sweepers, we scored 0-01 from play in the second half, got absolutely devoured on our own kickouts. The changes off the bench we made had no impact.
You're just making yourself look incredibly stupid.
No sure what match you were watching - Celtic maybe?
1-4 without reply and devoured??! Hopefully you know more about your beloved soccer than your pretend GAA interest. What does some of this even mean?! Devoured by 2 points?! Give the Ulster Champions some credit.
We got devoured on our kickouts? Can you not read?
O'Moore Park to host All Ireland U20 Final, next Saturday at 4pm.
Final cannot go ahead under Level 5 all with all other non Senior competitions. The likes of the Minor championships are done for good I'd say now.
Only one match left to finish this football U20 championship out, but hard to know if they'll reschedule again.
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on October 21, 2020, 08:39:23 AM
Final cannot go ahead under Level 5 all with all other non Senior competitions. The likes of the Minor championships are done for good I'd say now.
Only one match left to finish this football U20 championship out, but hard to know if they'll reschedule again.
Where is this from?
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Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on October 21, 2020, 08:39:23 AM
Final cannot go ahead under Level 5 all with all other non Senior competitions. The likes of the Minor championships are done for good I'd say now.
Only one match left to finish this football U20 championship out, but hard to know if they'll reschedule again.
Where is this from?
Government spokesperson to RTE news this morning is where I heard the news, GAA have not announced anything offically themselves as of yet.
EDIT - Galway county chairman has confirmed that both of Galway's U20 and Minor matches scheduled for this weekend are off.
Tough on the U20's squads and their management to be so close to the final game of the competition but what can you do.
Very harsh that on the under 20 final participants, surely ta fk they could of made an exception for one bloody game to finish it .
Quote from: larryin89 on October 21, 2020, 10:19:01 AM
Very harsh that on the under 20 final participants, surely ta fk they could of made an exception for one bloody game to finish it .
It's absurd, one game, a final, that was already going to be playing in a behind closed doors setting to conclude a season.
The minor has just about started so that's one thing but both U20 teams must be absolutely devastated. Within 3 days of an All Ireland final.
Perfect opportunity to switch minor back to U18 in 2021.
Quote from: larryin89 on October 21, 2020, 10:19:01 AM
Very harsh that on the under 20 final participants, surely ta fk they could of made an exception for one bloody game to finish it .
Yes change senior word in document to adult.
Quote from: MayoBuck on October 21, 2020, 11:19:29 AM
Perfect opportunity to switch minor back to U18 in 2021.
No chance of that when the whole country is moving to U17 now!
A bit daft the U20 Final this weekend can't be played. Some of those same players are allowed play for Senior Inter County team but not U20?
From
GAA. Ie
Following clarification from the Department of Sport around the staging of inter-county fixtures, the GAA can confirm that as of midnight this evening, all minor and U20 inter-county competitions are paused until further notice.
Accordingly, Saturday's scheduled EirGrid GAA U20 football final meeting of Dublin and Galway will not take place.
This evening's Bord Gáis Energy Leinster U20 hurling fixtures will proceed.
Additionally, the GAA's CCCC has been informed that Longford will not be fulfilling their Allianz Football League fixture with Cork this weekend.
Quote from: Blowitupref on October 21, 2020, 12:42:34 PM
A bit daft the U20 Final this weekend can't be play. Some of those same players are allowed play for Senior Inter County team but not U20?
Worse, if any of them play Senior championship in the next few weeks they won't be eligible to play the final if it's rescheduled for say December, daft.
The u20 and u17 championships for 2020 should have been killed completely in April. There is simply no need to gather youngsters up from all around a county several times a week, then traipse them off around a province playing matches.
Lads may lose out of a year. But you know what? Tough shit. There's plenty of businesses and employees losing out on much more than a year's ball.
It's a different story at senior level. These are grown adults making adult choices. They are also genuinely elite athletes in their sport. They are not 16 year old kids.
Quote from: thewobbler on October 21, 2020, 02:16:49 PM
The u20 and u17 championships for 2020 should have been killed completely in April. There is simply no need to gather youngsters up from all around a county several times a week, then traipse them off around a province playing matches.
Lads may lose out of a year. But you know what? Tough shit. There's plenty of businesses and employees losing out on much more than a year's ball.
It's a different story at senior level. These are grown adults making adult choices. They are also genuinely elite athletes in their sport. They are not 16 year old kids.
Tough shit on young lads? Great attitude. I also didn't realise that you could only be a genuinely elite athlete at adult level. So because businesses are losing out then so should these young lads?
Typical Irish attitude.
Quote from: mup on October 21, 2020, 03:00:18 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on October 21, 2020, 02:16:49 PM
The u20 and u17 championships for 2020 should have been killed completely in April. There is simply no need to gather youngsters up from all around a county several times a week, then traipse them off around a province playing matches.
Lads may lose out of a year. But you know what? Tough shit. There's plenty of businesses and employees losing out on much more than a year's ball.
It's a different story at senior level. These are grown adults making adult choices. They are also genuinely elite athletes in their sport. They are not 16 year old kids.
Tough shit on young lads? Great attitude. I also didn't realise that you could only be a genuinely elite athlete at adult level. So because businesses are losing out then so should these young lads?
Typical Irish attitude.
There's a pandemic going on. Pretty much everything in the country is shut. Getting 16 year old kids to travel the length of a county to train is immoral, and on so many levels. Then getting them to travel around the country on "elite athlete" status is a lie of the highest order.
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You can of course be an elite athlete at 16. Wayne Rooney was. Mike Tyson was. Ian Thorpe was.
But those squad players who missed out on Fermanagh u17s match day squad are not elite athletes. If they are elite athletes, then in football alone there are almost 1,000 elite athletes strewn across the country, in a narrow age band of being born in 2003 or 2004. Same again in hurling. Same again in ladies football. Same again in camogie.
That's some "elite" for an island of 6m people.
The thing is these U-20's that can't play on Saturday can line out for the seniors on Sunday if selected. I've given up on the logic of these things at this stage.
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Quote from: mup on October 21, 2020, 03:00:18 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on October 21, 2020, 02:16:49 PM
The u20 and u17 championships for 2020 should have been killed completely in April. There is simply no need to gather youngsters up from all around a county several times a week, then traipse them off around a province playing matches.
Lads may lose out of a year. But you know what? Tough shit. There's plenty of businesses and employees losing out on much more than a year's ball.
It's a different story at senior level. These are grown adults making adult choices. They are also genuinely elite athletes in their sport. They are not 16 year old kids.
Tough shit on young lads? Great attitude. I also didn't realise that you could only be a genuinely elite athlete at adult level. So because businesses are losing out then so should these young lads?
Typical Irish attitude.
There's a pandemic going on. Pretty much everything in the country is shut. Getting 16 year old kids to travel the length of a county to train is immoral, and on so many levels. Then getting them to travel around the country on "elite athlete" status is a lie of the highest order.
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You can of course be an elite athlete at 16. Wayne Rooney was. Mike Tyson was. Ian Thorpe was.
But those squad players who missed out on Fermanagh u17s match day squad are not elite athletes. If they are elite athletes, then in football alone there are almost 1,000 elite athletes strewn across the country, in a narrow age band of being born in 2003 or 2004. Same again in hurling. Same again in ladies football. Same again in camogie.
That's some "elite" for an island of 6m people.
So how is it different to senior players travelling the length of the country? Can the virus differentiate between a 16/17 year and an adult?
The decision is nothing but an attempt by the government to satisfy the masses who want no GAA going ahead. It's a compromise. I might be naïve but I've yet to hear of a transmission on the field of play.
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on October 21, 2020, 03:18:07 PM
The thing is these U-20's that can't play on Saturday can line out for the seniors on Sunday if selected. I've given up on the logic of these things at this stage.
Logic is by the wayside when its known 15 to 17 year olds are more likely to catch this virus indoors in a class room than outdoors on a football pitch.
The difference is that being an above average talent in your age group does not an elite athlete make.
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Elite level sport is being permitted by the government, behind closed doors, to help ensure continuity (minimise disruption) in contractual, sponsorship and grant arrangements, and to provide the population with something to look forward to (in the larger, televised sports).
The GAA made, in my opinion, an error of judgement in trying to allocate thousands of children as having this elite level status.
Quote from: thewobbler on October 21, 2020, 03:28:54 PM
The difference is that being an above average talent in your age group does not an elite athlete make.
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Elite level sport is being permitted by the government, behind closed doors, to help ensure continuity (minimise disruption) in contractual, sponsorship and grant arrangements, and to provide the population with something to look forward to (in the larger, televised sports).
The GAA made, in my opinion, an error of judgement in trying to allocate thousands of children as having this elite level status.
That doesn't answer my question on how the virus can differentiate between a 16/17 year old and an adult.
The Government are pandering to the baying masses.
IMO it should be possible to play the early stages of the u20 and minor championships. There would be no big celebrations after a 'mere' championship win because that's where these GAA clusters emanated from.
Wasnt the NPHET advice that Senior Inter County was considered elite.
The Government left out the word Senior.
Anyway I think seeing as we're gone to Level 5 it's the right decision at U17 especially not to be traipsing children all over the place in the middle of a pandemic.
Before ye start .. schooling is kind of important, playing amateur sport isn't in the greater scheme of things.
Quote from: Rossfan on October 21, 2020, 03:49:03 PM
Wasnt the NPHET advice that Senior Inter County was considered elite.
The Government left out the word Senior.
Anyway I think seeing as we're gone to Level 5 it's the right decision at U17 especially not to be traipsing children all over the place in the middle of a pandemic.
Before ye start .. schooling is kind of important, playing amateur sport isn't in the greater scheme of things.
I'd understand the need for pausing the U17 championship but surely it would have made sense to play that U20 Final at the weekend. Its basically adult football and just 1 game.
Yep they could have exempted that 1 game right enough.
Yes! If you have the chance of finishing off a competition - get it done. This only leaves both groups having to get together again and again which only adds to more logistic headaches.
I think they could have allowed the U20 to go ahead considering it's just one game. Correct to call off the U17 though imo
Anyone heard when the final is likely to take place?
Will Paul Kelly be ineligible after playing in senior Connacht final?
Talk that it will be the curtain raiser before the senior final.
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on November 20, 2020, 10:07:49 AM
Talk that it will be the curtain raiser before the senior final.
Makes sense
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Talk that it will be the curtain raiser before the senior final.
Makes sense
Thats 4 weeks tomorrow, they'd want to be allowing both teams to commence training next week.
Isn't it part of the current regulations on matches that there are no curtain-raisers?
Quote from: five points on November 20, 2020, 02:11:38 PM
Isn't it part of the current regulations on matches that there are no curtain-raisers?
The Nicky Rackard and Christy Ring finals are on this Sunday in Croke Park.
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Quote from: five points on November 20, 2020, 02:11:38 PM
Isn't it part of the current regulations on matches that there are no curtain-raisers?
The Nicky Rackard and Christy Ring finals are on this Sunday in Croke Park.
1.30 and 4pm, which sounds like two totally separate fixtures, not that it matters a whole pile as long as there are no spectators.
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Isn't it part of the current regulations on matches that there are no curtain-raisers?
The Nicky Rackard and Christy Ring finals are on this Sunday in Croke Park.
Last Sunday Kildare v Meath and Dublin v Laois was played in Croke Park.
Green light for the U20 Final and minor championship
https://m.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/underage-gaa-games-get-the-green-light-to-resume-as-country-enters-level-3-39816215.html
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Green light for the U20 Final and minor championship
https://m.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/underage-gaa-games-get-the-green-light-to-resume-as-country-enters-level-3-39816215.html
Looks like U-20 final will be in the new year now.
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Green light for the U20 Final and minor championship
https://m.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/underage-gaa-games-get-the-green-light-to-resume-as-country-enters-level-3-39816215.html
Looks like U-20 final will be in the new year now.
Set for December 19th now.
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Green light for the U20 Final and minor championship
https://m.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/underage-gaa-games-get-the-green-light-to-resume-as-country-enters-level-3-39816215.html
Looks like U-20 final will be in the new year now.
Set for December 19th now.
Same day as All ireland football final. Same venue or different venue?
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Green light for the U20 Final and minor championship
https://m.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/underage-gaa-games-get-the-green-light-to-resume-as-country-enters-level-3-39816215.html
Looks like U-20 final will be in the new year now.
Set for December 19th now.
Same day as All ireland football final. Same venue or different venue?
https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/gaa-confirm-u20-and-senior-all-ireland-final-double-header-1.4425737?mode=amp
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Green light for the U20 Final and minor championship
https://m.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/underage-gaa-games-get-the-green-light-to-resume-as-country-enters-level-3-39816215.html
Looks like U-20 final will be in the new year now.
Set for December 19th now.
Same day as All ireland football final. Same venue or different venue?
Both in Croke Park on the same day. U20 final at 2:30pm and senior final at 5pm
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Green light for the U20 Final and minor championship
https://m.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/underage-gaa-games-get-the-green-light-to-resume-as-country-enters-level-3-39816215.html
Looks like U-20 final will be in the new year now.
Set for December 19th now.
Same day as All ireland football final. Same venue or different venue?
Both in Croke Park on the same day. U20 final at 2:30pm and senior final at 5pm
GAA a bit wiser nowadays with the scheduling where extra-time in the first game delayed the big one.
Croke Park is a nice neutral venue for Dublin v Galway ::)
Roughly half way between Parnell Park and Páirc na Gaoithe.....
Quote from: Rossfan on December 03, 2020, 11:27:45 AM
Croke Park is a nice neutral venue for Dublin v Galway ::)
Roughly half way between Parnell Park and Páirc na Gaoithe.....
Thinking the exact same thing.
It's almost gone funny at this stage.
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Green light for the U20 Final and minor championship
https://m.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/underage-gaa-games-get-the-green-light-to-resume-as-country-enters-level-3-39816215.html
Looks like U-20 final will be in the new year now.
Set for December 19th now.
Same day as All ireland football final. Same venue or different venue?
Both in Croke Park on the same day. U20 final at 2:30pm and senior final at 5pm
GAA a bit wiser nowadays with the scheduling where extra-time in the first game delayed the big one.
U20 Final now has a 2:15pm start.
So it looks like the GAA have been advised that underage games can resume while soccer and rugby told they cannot. Watch this space as they are furious
"Approved County games"
None of them in soccerball or rubby ;)
Quote from: Rossfan on December 04, 2020, 11:45:44 PM
"Approved County games"
None of them in soccerball or rubby ;)
But why that distinction? Insane stuff and draws the GAA into an argument not of their making. Or was it?
https://fb.watch/2azdY3IL52/
It's hard to argue against this.
https://amp.independent.ie/sport/soccer/league-of-ireland/why-is-there-return-to-play-but-no-fair-play-when-it-comes-to-the-gaasoccer-divide-39824268.html?__twitter_impression=true
With all due respect to underage soccer, there is nothing in Ireland on a par with the intercounty U20 or minor championships. Nobody gives a shit if St Kevin's are playing Shelbourne in an U17 soccer match, even if there is some talent on show.
But if Ireland had an U18 or U20 competitive international to play, I'm sure that would get the go ahead.
Quote from: Hound on December 05, 2020, 08:35:32 AM
With all due respect to underage soccer, there is nothing in Ireland on a par with the intercounty U20 or minor championships. Nobody gives a shit if St Kevin's are playing Shelbourne in an U17 soccer match, even if there is some talent on show.
But if Ireland had an U18 or U20 competitive international to play, I'm sure that would get the go ahead.
Its not Kevins. Its Shamrock Rovers, Derry City etc.
Are you suggesting those clubs academies and the rugby interprovincial sides are less elite than the GAA u20's? These lads are professional remember
Those soccer teams would be playing every week in long drawn out Leagues.
The GAA minor and U 20s are knocknout competitions played over a few weeks with a reduced no. of teams each week.
A no brainer ....but another whinge opportunity for the soccerball gang.
Quote from: Rossfan on December 05, 2020, 11:50:52 AM
Those soccer teams would be playing every week in long drawn out Leagues.
The GAA minor and U 20s are knocknout competitions played over a few weeks with a reduced no. of teams each week.
A no brainer ....but another whinge opportunity for the soccerball gang.
There are 3 games left. This weekend, midweek and next weekend. So not very different at all.
They have a very legitimate gripe here. That's their reward for managing Covid better as well.
Baile Brigín 2, This is the U20 All-Ireland championship thread, take your griping elsewhere.
Under pressure from SF soccer underage elite is back but not rugby. Bonkers.
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Quote from: Hound on December 05, 2020, 08:35:32 AM
With all due respect to underage soccer, there is nothing in Ireland on a par with the intercounty U20 or minor championships. Nobody gives a shit if St Kevin's are playing Shelbourne in an U17 soccer match, even if there is some talent on show.
But if Ireland had an U18 or U20 competitive international to play, I'm sure that would get the go ahead.
Its not Kevins. Its Shamrock Rovers, Derry City etc.
Are you suggesting those clubs academies and the rugby interprovincial sides are less elite than the GAA u20's? These lads are professional remember
Derry had already decided to opt out of completing the last 3 games.
You're not very good with the research side of a debate in order to support an opinion are you BB2? A bit of a chancer?
Will Paul Kelly tog for Galway tomorrow.
Yes he will
Galway U-20 team v Dublin
Conor Flaherty (Claregalway)
Jonathan McGrath (Caherlistrane)
Sean Fitzgerald (Bearna)
Jack Glynn (Claregalway)
Cian Monahan (Oughterard)
Tony Gill (Corofin)
Cathal Sweeney (Salthill Knocknacarra)
Conor Raftery (Glenamaddy)
Cian Hernon (Bearna)
Paul Kelly (Moycullen)
Matthew Tierney (Oughterard)
Ryan Monahan (Oughterard)
Patrick Kelly (Mountbellew/Moylough)
Tomo Culhane (Salthill Knocknacarra)
Matthew Cooley (Corofin)
No James McLaughlin due to a knee problem which is a big loss. Haven't seen the subs. Conor Flaherty is also playing centre-back for the U-20 hurlers this evening against Kilkenny. So they'll be praying he comes through that in one piece.
Galway U20 manager Donal Ó Fátharta aware health trumps success
'I won't beat about the bush, that was a very tough week'
Galway U20 manager Donal Ó Fátharta aware health trumps success
FRI, 18 DEC, 2020 - 07:15
PAUL KEANE
Galway U20 manager Donal Ó Fátharta has admitted that EirGrid All-Ireland success didn't seem to matter a whole pile in the "very tough week" before their semi-final win over Kerry.
Galway won that game by five points though Ó Fátharta said his first thought all week was for his players after a major Covid-19 scare in the camp.
Just like Kerry, the westerners were forced to field without several players because of the impact of the virus and Ó Fátharta admitted that football seemed irrelevant at times.
"I won't beat about the bush, that was a very tough week," said Ó Fátharta. "The first thing that was in my mind was the health of the guys. I was delighted for myself that that was the first feeling I had because I can be honest about that.
"When guys pick up an illness like that, that was the first port of call, their health, to make sure those guys are fine.
"Of course they were thinking about football but for me that was secondary. By the Wednesday we were beginning to get a handle on things, we had one or two more (cases) then on Thursday so it was a kind of a second wave shall we say. But everyone was fine, that was the main thing.
"We did go out and beat Kerry but to be honest it was secondary and I'd say that, I'm not messing with that, the game was secondary that week.
"It was nice to come through and it's nice to be looking forward to this final but I wouldn't like to go through that week again."
Ó Fátharta and Galway are almost back up to feel speed again after the Covid storm though a couple of injuries to key players are concerning.
Matthew Tierney, a Galway senior and an All-Ireland club IFC medallist with Oughterard last January, is locked in a fitness battle ahead of tomorrow's final against Dublin.
"We have a couple of issues," said Ó Fátharta. "James McLoughlin has a knee problem. Matthew Tierney hurt his knee against Kerry so we aren't sure yet how he will be."
An Spidéal man Ó Fátharta was manager of the Galway minor teams that lost All-Ireland finals in 2018 and 2019, to Kerry and Cork.
Some of his U20 players experienced those defeats though he isn't convinced that will provide any extra motivation on their return to Croke Park.
"It's not something we addressed, ever," said Ó Fátharta. "We dealt with it at the time and moved on.
These guys want to play senior for Galway and we're trying to facilitate that as best we can.
"That's where we're at so we don't really look back at stuff like that."
Galway began their campaign way back in February with a 3-2 win over Mayo on penalties. Oisin Mullin played for Mayo that day and will feature for the senior team tomorrow, after the U20 final.
Ó Fátharta said: "I think four of that Mayo team are on the senior panel at the moment. Look, none of us could have foreseen how the year played out."
The very best of luck to the U20s this afternoon. James McLoughlin is a significant loss but the 2 lads selected in MF were both excellent against Kerry. Paul Kelly misses the semi final and should be a significant addition around the middle third also. Not sure how much training continuity they have had over the past few months but hopefully they put in a solid performance and see where it takes them today.
4 each at the water break. Big blow for Galway to lose Cathal Sweeney to injury, a future senior footballer I'd reckon
No. 18 that has replaced the injured wing-half back has done well so far. Galway looking the better team, certainly more settled, but for all their good play they are still only 3 ahead
Not many standing out for Dublin, no. 7 maybe, Archer well marked. A lot of good players on Galway team, 9, 11, 14. Dublin would need to sort their kickouts
Galway decked up a few opportunities just before ht.
Half time Galway 0-8 Dublin 0-5. A well deserved lead for the tribesmen men who are finding scorers easier to come by. Dublin will need a plan B with Archer marked out of the game thus far.
Awkward fall there..shame, looks like a very good player
Hernon and Sweeney off injured. No McLaughlin. If they can pull it from here then fair play.
Galway goal! 1-9 to 0-6 ahead now 37 minutes played.
We are panicking here big time. Turnovers galore
FT Galway 1-11 Dublin 0-13. Congrats to Galway on a deserved win, finish their football season on a real high. Decent fight back by Dublin but too little to late. U20 All-Ireland final defeat for a 2nd year in a row.
Many a ref would have gave free in there but think he was right not too. Would have been a travesty to go to Extra time
Galway fortunate enough in the end
Some dive by Dublin corner back there. If he hadn't been so theatrical he might have got it.
Brilliant win Galway well won
Brilliant win especially given the injuries to big players, majority of these players have lost the last 2 minor finals so delighted for them.
Galway really look tired in that last 15 minutes, you could see in the warm up Dublin looked the bigger side.
Quote from: Maroon Manc on December 19, 2020, 03:46:21 PM
Brilliant win especially given the injuries to big players, majority of these players have lost the last 2 minor finals so delighted for them.
Galway really look tired in that last 15 minutes, you could see in the warm up Dublin looked the bigger side.
My feckin nerves! Delighted for that group of lads, a good few have lost minor finals. Poor second half performance and the backs dug the win for us in the end.
Well done, Galway and commiserations to the young Dubs. They didn't fail from a want of effort.
Looked very tired the last 10 minutes there. I think the injuries might have caught up to them. Dublin took over in midfield after Hernon went off at the throw in of the 2nd half. Very happy for that bunch though. Some of them lost the minor final on the last kick of the game last year. Think they were the better side overall but the injuries almost caught them out. Galway will get a good few from that bunch hopefully.
Hard luck to Dublin. Fair play to the ref. I think a lot of refs would have taken the handy draw option there.
A nervy finish and another ref could easily have given Dublin a free in on that 2nd last play of the game but Galway was the better team over the 60 plus minutes.
Galways best two scoring forwards scored 1-10 of the 1-11 and Dublins best forward scored 0-1 a telling difference. Mayo might be thinking what if as they lost on penalties to that Galway side way back in February.
Never a free and the dive was shocking. As someone else said, he might have got it if he hadn't done the swan dive
Could barely watch that last ten minutes.
Looked like we may have thrown it away near the end with some terrible decision making but over the course of the full game I think we were the better team.
McLoughlin and Hernon big losses around the middle there especially near the end.
Great win.
Quote from: An Watcher on December 19, 2020, 03:56:59 PM
Never a free and the dive was shocking. As someone else said, he might have got it if he hadn't done the swan dive
It was a dive but I do reckon many referees would have bought it - particularly given the time on the clock and the one point margin.
Well done Galway. Funny how small the margins can be with ye only beating Mayo on penalties.
From a Galway seniors point of view one of the most pleasing things is the full-back line were all excellent and Dublin had some serious operators in there in Archer, Swan and O'Leary.
Quote from: galwayman on December 19, 2020, 03:59:06 PM
Quote from: An Watcher on December 19, 2020, 03:56:59 PM
Never a free and the dive was shocking. As someone else said, he might have got it if he hadn't done the swan dive
It was a dive but I do reckon many referees would have bought it - particularly given the time on the clock and the one point margin.
I was sure it was a foul, in real time. On the replay, clearly a dive. Fair dues to the ref.
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on December 19, 2020, 03:51:21 PM
Looked very tired the last 10 minutes there. I think the injuries might have caught up to them. Dublin took over in midfield after Hernon went off at the throw in of the 2nd half. Very happy for that bunch though. Some of them lost the minor final on the last kick of the game last year. Think they were the better side overall but the injuries almost caught them out. Galway will get a good few from that bunch hopefully.
Hard luck to Dublin. Fair play to the ref. I think a lot of refs would have taken the handy draw option there.
I have to admit that Galway were the better team, and just a bit of white line fever let the Dubs back in. We did show plenty of heart to fight back which was great. You never know what would have happened had it gone to extra time, and Dubs would have had the momentum, but I think Galway would have re-grouped.
The ref was definitely right for the last second 'free'. The corner back had obviously no interest in scoring but should have waited until he was fouled before hitting the ground! Because it's almost certain he would have been fouled had he not dived. He made a mistake, he'll hopefully learn from it.
Well done Galway.
10 of Galway's starting team still U-20 next year including James McLaughlin who would have started only for injury. 4 of them actually still U-20 eligible the following year as well.
A good bunch there if we can keep them together for a while.
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on December 19, 2020, 11:54:33 PM
10 of Galway's starting team still U-20 next year including James McLaughlin who would have started only for injury. 4 of them actually still U-20 eligible the following year as well.
A good bunch there if we can keep them together for a while.
That'a defo. something to build on.
The only problem is getting them through to the senior squad.
Be interesteting to see how many of them 'drift away'.
Tonic win for Galway after the shellacking the minors took on Friday evening. Always nice to win any title but ultimately you are looking to see what we can get out of that team for Senior level.
If you got 2/3 from that team to be good (as in competing for All Irelands good, not good as in what we got from the 2011/2013 wins) Senior players you'd be doing really well, from the U21 team that lost to Dublin in 2017 I'd only put Sean Kelly in the top IC player category, lads like McDaid who was a superstar at that level have not successfully made the transition to Senior, ditto Michael Daly. In fairness to Cooke - who you couldn't fault the last time he was in a Galway jersey - he is gone from the scene for the moment. Conneely, Molloy and Finnerty haven't played enough to make any judgement. Sean Andy not good enough.
Paul Kelly looks a top player and if he comes on like his brother at the next level he is exactly the type of player Galway need at Senior level, serious athlete. Don't know how his basketball career might impact his availability yet.
Culhane is only out of minor, certainly has the talent and ability, nice bit of cut about him as well demanding the ball and willing to front up.
Would love to see the corner backs come through, we are absolutely crying out for lads that can mark the opposition forward while left on an island at least some of the time.
Tierney and Sweeney will be interesting to see if they can kick on, Tierney needs to fill out a bit but skill and height wise he is set. Sweeney has a reputation with some as the most likely to make it but again we'll have to see how he goes at the top level, Mayo have lads the same age that are doing it at Senior level already and unless Galway get some freakish good luck a la the 94 minor team, a lot of those U20's won't make the cut so as I said we'll just have to see how it pans out.
Indeed Mayo who lost out on penos to that Galway team earlier in the competition might end up getting a more telling return from this year when all is said and done, Mullen is the pick of the U20's in the country this year, he is a fine Senior IC player already,
I thought Paul Kelly showed great maturity during the 2nd half, knew went to slow the game down and show a bit of composure when others around him were giving it away needlessly. Culhane wasn't shy in the pre match huddle, appeared to be doing all the talking.
Jack Glynn had a serious game on Archer, he destroyed Mulkerrin last year so thought they'd really struggle to contain him. I like the look of McGrath in the other corner, another of last years minors so has another couple of years at this level.
Look at the 4 new players in Mullin, McLoughlin, O'Donoghue & Conroy; They all have plenty of pace which is something Galway desperately need to add to the senior team, its not everything but I wouldn't say too many of that Galway team who started yesterday had blistering pace apart from Sweeney. I hope his injury isn't too serious as you'd expect to see him get some game time in the league. I think I've mentioned it a few times but Tierney has a lot of filling out to do yet so wouldn't bank on him making a big impact next year.
I think we have a chance of getting a good few from this bunch but it might take a few years. They are young for even an U-20 side. Plenty prospects from midfield back. Keeper is good but is also a serious hurler so that's up in the air. Full back line were all impressive. Especially the two corner backs (McGrath and Glynn). Fitzgerald certainly has the physical presence at 3. Sweeney is highly rated and is the type of dynamic player needed. Started the game well driving forward until his unfortunate injury. Shame for him as he missed the semi-final against Kerry due to Covid. All three midfielders (McLaughlin, Hernon and Raftery) have a chance of making it. Raftery is a real workhorse type but the other two might have higher ceilings. Paul Kelly has already played for the seniors and did well albeit a very small sample size. The type of athlete you need nowadays. Culhane is the real deal I think. Has 2 more years left at U-20 but is a very confident type who wants every ball kicked into him. Tierney has the skills and the height but will be eaten up at senior until he puts some muscle on his frame. He doesn't have the explosive burst to run away from markers so he'll need to be physically stronger to bounce them off.
Tierney, Glynn, Fitzgerald are all done with U-20 now I believe. Vast majority of the rest are still eligible at the grade next year. Culhane, Hernon, McGrath and McLaughlin all still have 2 years left at U-20.
I get that Tierney has filling out to do but even so he looked by far and away the best U20 in Connacht last year, when he still had a year left at the grade. And that group included Tommy Conroy, Ryan O'Donoghue etc. Granted they've gone on to show it at senior level and I actually thought Tierney had a quiet year this year despite his obvious scoring returns. Still, I think Joyce adores him. You could see that by the way he threw him in against Kerry in the league despite him having very little time with the group at that point. I'd be surprised if he's not getting game time in championship next season. You'd imagine Sweeney will get a run in the league. McLaughlin will be the most interesting one. How early does he get exposure to the senior group. Perhaps 2022
Quote from: Manning18 on December 22, 2020, 03:07:47 PM
I get that Tierney has filling out to do but even so he looked by far and away the best U20 in Connacht last year, when he still had a year left at the grade. And that group included Tommy Conroy, Ryan O'Donoghue etc. Granted they've gone on to show it at senior level and I actually thought Tierney had a quiet year this year despite his obvious scoring returns. Still, I think Joyce adores him. You could see that by the way he threw him in against Kerry in the league despite him having very little time with the group at that point. I'd be surprised if he's not getting game time in championship next season. You'd imagine Sweeney will get a run in the league. McLaughlin will be the most interesting one. How early does he get exposure to the senior group. Perhaps 2022
McLaughlin was in with the seniors already in the build up to the restart of the league. I guess he already has the size and strength compared to some of the others. Bit mad to think he has another 2 years to go at U-20.
After the impressive win by the Galway lads on Saturday do any of the Galway contributors here believe that Galway can win a senior All-Ireland in the next few years?
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on December 22, 2020, 07:54:05 PM
Quote from: Manning18 on December 22, 2020, 03:07:47 PM
I get that Tierney has filling out to do but even so he looked by far and away the best U20 in Connacht last year, when he still had a year left at the grade. And that group included Tommy Conroy, Ryan O'Donoghue etc. Granted they've gone on to show it at senior level and I actually thought Tierney had a quiet year this year despite his obvious scoring returns. Still, I think Joyce adores him. You could see that by the way he threw him in against Kerry in the league despite him having very little time with the group at that point. I'd be surprised if he's not getting game time in championship next season. You'd imagine Sweeney will get a run in the league. McLaughlin will be the most interesting one. How early does he get exposure to the senior group. Perhaps 2022
McLaughlin was in with the seniors already in the build up to the restart of the league. I guess he already has the size and strength compared to some of the others. Bit mad to think he has another 2 years to go at U-20.
Is there not just one more year of U20, then it switches to U19?
Quote from: lenny on December 22, 2020, 08:00:39 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on December 22, 2020, 07:54:05 PM
Quote from: Manning18 on December 22, 2020, 03:07:47 PM
I get that Tierney has filling out to do but even so he looked by far and away the best U20 in Connacht last year, when he still had a year left at the grade. And that group included Tommy Conroy, Ryan O'Donoghue etc. Granted they've gone on to show it at senior level and I actually thought Tierney had a quiet year this year despite his obvious scoring returns. Still, I think Joyce adores him. You could see that by the way he threw him in against Kerry in the league despite him having very little time with the group at that point. I'd be surprised if he's not getting game time in championship next season. You'd imagine Sweeney will get a run in the league. McLaughlin will be the most interesting one. How early does he get exposure to the senior group. Perhaps 2022
McLaughlin was in with the seniors already in the build up to the restart of the league. I guess he already has the size and strength compared to some of the others. Bit mad to think he has another 2 years to go at U-20.
Is there not just one more year of U20, then it switches to U19?
Nothing decided yet, I think it would be better to revert back to U21 level than U19 but HQ would have to admit they were wrong so I can't see that happening.
Quote from: The Hill is Blue on December 22, 2020, 07:57:19 PM
After the impressive win by the Galway lads on Saturday do any of the Galway contributors here believe that Galway can win a senior All-Ireland in the next few years?
Average age of the team that lost in Connacht was very young and there's plenty of young talent there even aside from the U20s. They've made the last few minor finals. An All Ireland? Think we've about the same chance as say Mayo or Donegal. But on the law of averages, it's an unlikely proposition
Quote from: The Hill is Blue on December 22, 2020, 07:57:19 PM
After the impressive win by the Galway lads on Saturday do any of the Galway contributors here believe that Galway can win a senior All-Ireland in the next few years?
In a word: no.
Dublin get one good Senior player off their panel and it's just another player into an already very competitive and successful squad, job done, that's all they need. Galway need a lot more than one player to come through in the next few years to even give Dublin a proper game and that's the truth of it.
If the U20 match Saturday was 70 minutes, Dublin would have won pulling up, already could see the superior S&C shining through for that age group, Galway started taking the wrong option way more down the stretch because they were flaked. Dubs still coming as if it was only the 20th minute of the match. Galway were for me the better team for the majority of the match and were left clinging on in the finish.
I don't want to get into some argument over Galway needing to sort out their own house or the ins and outs of Dublin's advantages, it is what it is. Galway would need to hit on an unbelievable amount of players from that U20 team to be winning an All Ireland, past experience would tell you it just doesn't happen that way.
At Senior we've been in one semi final and no final in 20 years, we're a mile off if you look at it without maroon tinted glasses and it'll take more than the decent prospects from that U20 team to rectify that situation.
Mr hill is blue is having a bit of fun with the Galway lads. He wants reassurance that dubs will win the next 8 or nine.
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on December 22, 2020, 10:54:50 PM
Quote from: The Hill is Blue on December 22, 2020, 07:57:19 PM
After the impressive win by the Galway lads on Saturday do any of the Galway contributors here believe that Galway can win a senior All-Ireland in the next few years?
In a word: no.
Dublin get one good Senior player off their panel and it's just another player into an already very competitive and successful squad, job done, that's all they need. Galway need a lot more than one player to come through in the next few years to even give Dublin a proper game and that's the truth of it.
If the U20 match Saturday was 70 minutes, Dublin would have won pulling up, already could see the superior S&C shining through for that age group, Galway started taking the wrong option way more down the stretch because they were flaked. Dubs still coming as if it was only the 20th minute of the match. Galway were for me the better team for the majority of the match and were left clinging on in the finish.
I don't want to get into some argument over Galway needing to sort out their own house or the ins and outs of Dublin's advantages, it is what it is. Galway would need to hit on an unbelievable amount of players from that U20 team to be winning an All Ireland, past experience would tell you it just doesn't happen that way.
At Senior we've been in one semi final and no final in 20 years, we're a mile off if you look at it without maroon tinted glasses and it'll take more than the decent prospects from that U20 team to rectify that situation.
I saw the great Galway team of the early '60s play and they were majestic. What is preventing the county from achieving that standard now?
Quote from: The Hill is Blue on December 23, 2020, 12:02:43 AM
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on December 22, 2020, 10:54:50 PM
Quote from: The Hill is Blue on December 22, 2020, 07:57:19 PM
After the impressive win by the Galway lads on Saturday do any of the Galway contributors here believe that Galway can win a senior All-Ireland in the next few years?
In a word: no.
Dublin get one good Senior player off their panel and it's just another player into an already very competitive and successful squad, job done, that's all they need. Galway need a lot more than one player to come through in the next few years to even give Dublin a proper game and that's the truth of it.
If the U20 match Saturday was 70 minutes, Dublin would have won pulling up, already could see the superior S&C shining through for that age group, Galway started taking the wrong option way more down the stretch because they were flaked. Dubs still coming as if it was only the 20th minute of the match. Galway were for me the better team for the majority of the match and were left clinging on in the finish.
I don't want to get into some argument over Galway needing to sort out their own house or the ins and outs of Dublin's advantages, it is what it is. Galway would need to hit on an unbelievable amount of players from that U20 team to be winning an All Ireland, past experience would tell you it just doesn't happen that way.
At Senior we've been in one semi final and no final in 20 years, we're a mile off if you look at it without maroon tinted glasses and it'll take more than the decent prospects from that U20 team to rectify that situation.
I saw the great Galway team of the early '60s play and they were majestic. What is preventing the county from achieving that standard now?
The financial behemoth that is Dublin created by GAA HQ.
Quote from: The Hill is Blue on December 22, 2020, 07:57:19 PM
After the impressive win by the Galway lads on Saturday do any of the Galway contributors here believe that Galway can win a senior All-Ireland in the next few years?
Realistically no. We have won 5 AI u20/21s since 2002 remember.
We'll get some good senior players from this crop for sure, but we don't have an established hardened core of quality players already in place that the u20s would supplement.
Galway in theory should be doing better, won 3 All Irelands in the last decade at u 20/21 level and lost another final. Tom Flynn is the only mainstay Galway got from the 2011 team and he was still there 2013 along with Shane Walsh & Comer. Ian Burke & Varley played too that day but you'd hardly call them fixtures in the senior side since. I'm sure Daithi Burke would probably have been but has been lost to the hurlers. So Galway have got a grand total of 3 players from 2 all Ireland winning teams, its a huge let down and its not like either side were huge teams who won through physically dominating their opponents.
Galway have used a lot of players the last 3 years, would be very surprised if any Div 1 side has used more than Galway; Only have to look at the difference between the side that lost to Dublin in 2018 and Mayo in 2019 & 2020.
Like the other posters on here going into 2021 Galway don't have enough top players who've nailed down their place in the team. With any confidence Sean Kelly, John Daly, Shane Walsh & Comer are the only 4 players I can name who will definitely be part of a starting 15 and probably Tom Flynn & Heaney although positionally wise he could be anywhere from corner back to half forward.
I'd give McDaid more time, looked like he was going to be a future All Star back in 2017 but since he came back from Australia he's been riddled with injuries and not played enough football whilst Cooke who was outstanding against Mayo in 2019 is in the States currently. Michael Daly isn't good enough of an athlete to play the way he does and its familiar theme in the Galway team, not enough athletic players. The Corofin lads are all top footballers but don't think any of them have that athletic ability that's required although don't think Molloy hasn't had the chance to put down a marker. The likes of Brannigan is a good athlete but probably not good enough of a footballer to make the starting team if Galway are serious about winning All Irelands. Maybe I'm been a bit harsh but it is clear Galway don't have enough players of athletic ability.
Galway have beaten Mayo the last 5 occasions they've met at 20/21 level yet Mayo have got more out of those teams although that's mainly down to the last 12 months. Given all the success Galway have had at 20/21 they should not be in this position, its a numbers game and Galway should be doing better given they've done the most difficult part of the development.
Quote from: Maroon Manc on December 23, 2020, 12:30:48 PM
Galway in theory should be doing better, won 3 All Irelands in the last decade at u 20/21 level and lost another final. Tom Flynn is the only mainstay Galway got from the 2011 team and he was still there 2013 along with Shane Walsh & Comer. Ian Burke & Varley played too that day but you'd hardly call them fixtures in the senior side since. I'm sure Daithi Burke would probably have been but has been lost to the hurlers. So Galway have got a grand total of 3 players from 2 all Ireland winning teams, its a huge let down and its not like either side were huge teams who won through physically dominating their opponents.
Galway have used a lot of players the last 3 years, would be very surprised if any Div 1 side has used more than Galway; Only have to look at the difference between the side that lost to Dublin in 2018 and Mayo in 2019 & 2020.
Like the other posters on here going into 2021 Galway don't have enough top players who've nailed down their place in the team. With any confidence Sean Kelly, John Daly, Shane Walsh & Comer are the only 4 players I can name who will definitely be part of a starting 15 and probably Tom Flynn & Heaney although positionally wise he could be anywhere from corner back to half forward.
I'd give McDaid more time, looked like he was going to be a future All Star back in 2017 but since he came back from Australia he's been riddled with injuries and not played enough football whilst Cooke who was outstanding against Mayo in 2019 is in the States currently. Michael Daly isn't good enough of an athlete to play the way he does and its familiar theme in the Galway team, not enough athletic players. The Corofin lads are all top footballers but don't think any of them have that athletic ability that's required although don't think Molloy hasn't had the chance to put down a marker. The likes of Brannigan is a good athlete but probably not good enough of a footballer to make the starting team if Galway are serious about winning All Irelands. Maybe I'm been a bit harsh but it is clear Galway don't have enough players of athletic ability.
Galway have beaten Mayo the last 5 occasions they've met at 20/21 level yet Mayo have got more out of those teams although that's mainly down to the last 12 months. Given all the success Galway have had at 20/21 they should not be in this position, its a numbers game and Galway should be doing better given they've done the most difficult part of the development.
I'm still not sure why Galway have not been able to emulate the successes of the Galway teams of the Twelve Glorious Years. Those teams had to co-exist with the likes of Kerry, Dublin, Down, Offaly, Meath and of course Mayo. Yet they reached the pinnacle in 1964 through 1966.
They were a classy team that I really admired (and as an aside, the first book on Gaelic games that I read was Jack Mahon's "The Twelve Glorious Years".
That was an excellent Galway u21 team in 2011. Mark Hehir, Danny Cummins were class forwards on the team. Cummins was travelling this year, but was never really a regular on the Senior team.
Adrian Varley from the 2013 u21 team was good a prospect.
Not many stand out backs from those teams
If the Hoganstand rumours of lads pulling out are true then they'll be going absolutely nowhere anyway. I've heard nothing in person so could be complete nonsense. An Fhairce Abu usually has his ear to the ground?
Quote from: Maroon Manc on December 23, 2020, 12:30:48 PM
Galway in theory should be doing better, won 3 All Irelands in the last decade at u 20/21 level and lost another final. Tom Flynn is the only mainstay Galway got from the 2011 team and he was still there 2013 along with Shane Walsh & Comer. Ian Burke & Varley played too that day but you'd hardly call them fixtures in the senior side since. I'm sure Daithi Burke would probably have been but has been lost to the hurlers. So Galway have got a grand total of 3 players from 2 all Ireland winning teams, its a huge let down and its not like either side were huge teams who won through physically dominating their opponents.
Galway have used a lot of players the last 3 years, would be very surprised if any Div 1 side has used more than Galway; Only have to look at the difference between the side that lost to Dublin in 2018 and Mayo in 2019 & 2020.
Like the other posters on here going into 2021 Galway don't have enough top players who've nailed down their place in the team. With any confidence Sean Kelly, John Daly, Shane Walsh & Comer are the only 4 players I can name who will definitely be part of a starting 15 and probably Tom Flynn & Heaney although positionally wise he could be anywhere from corner back to half forward.
I'd give McDaid more time, looked like he was going to be a future All Star back in 2017 but since he came back from Australia he's been riddled with injuries and not played enough football whilst Cooke who was outstanding against Mayo in 2019 is in the States currently. Michael Daly isn't good enough of an athlete to play the way he does and its familiar theme in the Galway team, not enough athletic players. The Corofin lads are all top footballers but don't think any of them have that athletic ability that's required although don't think Molloy hasn't had the chance to put down a marker. The likes of Brannigan is a good athlete but probably not good enough of a footballer to make the starting team if Galway are serious about winning All Irelands. Maybe I'm been a bit harsh but it is clear Galway don't have enough players of athletic ability.
Galway have beaten Mayo the last 5 occasions they've met at 20/21 level yet Mayo have got more out of those teams although that's mainly down to the last 12 months. Given all the success Galway have had at 20/21 they should not be in this position, its a numbers game and Galway should be doing better given they've done the most difficult part of the development.
A lot of truth there. McDaid is very good at carrying the ball at pace, but in truth, his footballing ability is very moderate by any standard; I think there's more football in Molloy, if not as much pace. Ml. Daly is the opposite, has good ability but is far too slow for top intercounty fare. Head-to-head we're at least as good as Mayo in having a good supply of players, but it seems to mean more to Mayo to make and play for the county. As a county populace we seem to be sated by more moderate successes - heaps of underage AI and club titles in both codes - that the same concentrated and ravaging hunger for our Senior footballers, so prevalent in our green and red neighbours, isn't present in our squads.
Leinster final today. We'll miss Costello and Hickey but hopefully we'll have enough in the squad to see it out but the long gap and all the changes in management can't have helped.
Half time
Meath 0-04
Offaly 0-02
1-5 to 0-3
Liam Stafford with the goal
1-05 to 1-03
Wrong thread @thejuice
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Ulster final on TG4 this evening, Monaghan v Down, two good teams it should be a real contest.
Quote from: Main Street on July 30, 2021, 02:40:34 PM
Ulster final on TG4 this evening, Monaghan v Down, two good teams it should be a real contest.
Lovely touch.
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HT , Monaghan are 2 points to the good but Down have missed about 5 pointable chances as well the ref has made some strange decisions, how McGovern nr 12 for Down did not get a 20m free beats me.
Quote from: Main Street on July 30, 2021, 08:14:38 PM
HT , Monaghan are 2 points to the good but Down have missed about 5 pointable chances as well the ref has made some strange decisions, how McGovern nr 12 for Down did not get a 20m free beats me.
Monaghan denied a peno there for a jersey pull. Down goal game from a forward mark that the player put his arm up for but then didnt take. Surely you can't be allowed to do that
Quote from: straightred on July 30, 2021, 08:42:08 PM
Quote from: Main Street on July 30, 2021, 08:14:38 PM
HT , Monaghan are 2 points to the good but Down have missed about 5 pointable chances as well the ref has made some strange decisions, how McGovern nr 12 for Down did not get a 20m free beats me.
Monaghan denied a peno there for a jersey pull. Down goal game from a forward mark that the player put his arm up for but then didnt take. Surely you can't be allowed to do that
there is no mark from a dead ball. ref was right to play on
Quote from: Nanderson on July 30, 2021, 08:51:21 PM
Quote from: straightred on July 30, 2021, 08:42:08 PM
Quote from: Main Street on July 30, 2021, 08:14:38 PM
HT , Monaghan are 2 points to the good but Down have missed about 5 pointable chances as well the ref has made some strange decisions, how McGovern nr 12 for Down did not get a 20m free beats me.
Monaghan denied a peno there for a jersey pull. Down goal game from a forward mark that the player put his arm up for but then didnt take. Surely you can't be allowed to do that
there is no mark from a dead ball. ref was right to play on
ok... doesn't excuse the missed jersey pull. Its was obvious
Down 2-11 Monaghan 1-14. Extra to be played.
Both teams had chances. Down have had some terrible wides. Monghan wasted a lot too but its been a great battle
Quality fielding in the Down dna. Monaghan accuracy coupled with Down wastefulness is the leveler.
Down missed some chances in that 2ndhalf. Kept monaghan in it. Those 2 missed frees were criminal.
Jones for Monaghan has had some game. One to watch for the future
Quote from: straightred on July 30, 2021, 09:01:06 PM
Jones for Monaghan has had some game. One to watch for the future
I hope he's fit enough to play out ET. It looks like he's carrying an injury.
Quote from: Nanderson on July 30, 2021, 08:51:21 PM
Quote from: straightred on July 30, 2021, 08:42:08 PM
Quote from: Main Street on July 30, 2021, 08:14:38 PM
HT , Monaghan are 2 points to the good but Down have missed about 5 pointable chances as well the ref has made some strange decisions, how McGovern nr 12 for Down did not get a 20m free beats me.
Monaghan denied a peno there for a jersey pull. Down goal game from a forward mark that the player put his arm up for but then didnt take. Surely you can't be allowed to do that
there is no mark from a dead ball. ref was right to play on
i wish my irish was better but i think they're saying the ref got it wrong
Some good forwards came through in this group. Aaron Mulligan would be there too if he wasn't playing centre forward tomorrow.
Good score from Down's Jon Bon Jovi.
Quote from: BennyCake on July 30, 2021, 09:18:28 PM
Good score from Down's Jon Bon Jovi.
Looks like a Mullet.
Down 2-13 Monaghan 1-14. Just two scores in the first period of extra time and both for Down
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on July 30, 2021, 09:20:42 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on July 30, 2021, 09:11:57 PM
Quote from: straightred on July 30, 2021, 09:05:54 PM
Quote from: Nanderson on July 30, 2021, 08:51:21 PM
Quote from: straightred on July 30, 2021, 08:42:08 PM
Quote from: Main Street on July 30, 2021, 08:14:38 PM
HT , Monaghan are 2 points to the good but Down have missed about 5 pointable chances as well the ref has made some strange decisions, how McGovern nr 12 for Down did not get a 20m free beats me.
Monaghan denied a peno there for a jersey pull. Down goal game from a forward mark that the player put his arm up for but then didnt take. Surely you can't be allowed to do that
there is no mark from a dead ball. ref was right to play on
i wish my irish was better but i think they're saying the ref got it wrong
They are but they are in fact wrong. This is the definition of a mark in the rule book:
To catch the ball cleanly from a Kick-Out without it touching the ground, on or past the 45m line nearest the Kick-Out point.
or
To catch the ball cleanly on or
inside a 45m line from a kick
in play (i.e. not from set-play) delivered by an attacking player on or beyond the opposing team's 45m line, that travels
at least 20m and without it touching the ground.
They've realised now.
Another reason to hate the mark then. You can claim it even if you aren't entitled to it ?
Monaghan out on their feet now.
Strong showing by Down in Extra time. First U20/21 ulster title since 2009 I think. FT Down 3-15 Monaghan 1-14.
Sin sin, well deserved on the day for Down, Monaghan out on their feet gasping for air in ET.
Credit to the Monaghan lads. How can you be fully focused on training for a final following that tragedy?
Quote from: straightred on July 30, 2021, 09:28:04 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on July 30, 2021, 09:20:42 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on July 30, 2021, 09:11:57 PM
Quote from: straightred on July 30, 2021, 09:05:54 PM
Quote from: Nanderson on July 30, 2021, 08:51:21 PM
Quote from: straightred on July 30, 2021, 08:42:08 PM
Quote from: Main Street on July 30, 2021, 08:14:38 PM
HT , Monaghan are 2 points to the good but Down have missed about 5 pointable chances as well the ref has made some strange decisions, how McGovern nr 12 for Down did not get a 20m free beats me.
Monaghan denied a peno there for a jersey pull. Down goal game from a forward mark that the player put his arm up for but then didnt take. Surely you can't be allowed to do that
there is no mark from a dead ball. ref was right to play on
i wish my irish was better but i think they're saying the ref got it wrong
They are but they are in fact wrong. This is the definition of a mark in the rule book:
To catch the ball cleanly from a Kick-Out without it touching the ground, on or past the 45m line nearest the Kick-Out point.
or
To catch the ball cleanly on or
inside a 45m line from a kick
in play (i.e. not from set-play) delivered by an attacking player on or beyond the opposing team's 45m line, that travels
at least 20m and without it touching the ground.
They've realised now.
Another reason to hate the mark then. You can claim it even if you aren't entitled to it ?
Monaghan out on their feet now.
Monaghan player should have known he was free to tackle. Thats the benefits of brushing up on the rules
Just after listening to young O hare's post match interview talking about the loss of his friend last year in his club. Puts things in perspective all the more so given Monaghan's loss.
Well done Down. I think they have a lot more in the tank. Fair play to Monaghan for putting up such a gallant fight.
As some consolation TG4 are following up with the classic western The Great Northfield Minnesota Raid.
Another fine U-20 match again last night, the format of running off this championship midweek in conjunction with the inter county senior championship is proving a very good template. TG4 doing a fantastic job in promoting it which is the key and there has been no shortage of decent games.
Your heart would go out to Monaghan, it can't have been easy preparing for and playing that match last night but full credit to Down they were very dignified afterwards and that has to come from the management. Down senior team have a vacancy and I don't think they will have to look too far.
Underdogs Offaly hugely impressive in that 1st half against All Ireland favourites Cork. Half time Offaly 1-7 Cork 0-3.
Congrats to Offaly into their first U20/U21 AI final since 1988. FT Offaly 3-10 Cork 0-14
Jaysus, fair play Offaly. What an underdog story, beating Dublin then Cork, who I think were the 2 All Ireland favourites before the provincial finals. That's warmed my heart a bit on a drab day.
Great win for offaly, they've some brilliant players throughout that team.
Fair play Offaly underdog stories like that is what make this sport great. A pity those at the top are determined to get rid of such underdog stories at senior level.
Offaly are a breath of fresh air, great energy, absolutely fearless and very good team to watch.
I haven't seen many Gaelic football teams more entertaining and box office than this Offaly under 20 one
That was another decent game tonight in what has been a great championship. A lot closer than the final score line would suggest but Roscommon deserved it to set up a real novel final pairing. Great to see new teams in the final.
Roscommon v Offaly confirmed for Croke Park this Sunday at 1:30pm and 24,000 tickets between the two counties.
Makes for a very interesting final between two attacking teams. It will be live on TG4.
All-Ireland Ladies SFC semi-final between Cork and Meath added to the bill now.
Ticketmaster site crashed just seconds after I got a good set of tickets.
Quote from: Rossfan on August 10, 2021, 11:32:11 AM
Ticketmaster site crashed just seconds after I got a good set of tickets.
Which sections are they currently selling?
Got Hogans but they seem to just pop up on a take it or leave it basis.
Now keeps saying error come back later.
Bloody Biffos must have overloaded the thing....
Seems a combination of County Board, Clubrossie and stolensheep has seen everyone that needed a ticket sorted out.
It should be a great occasion and hopefully th'oul weather will do its part as well.
Biffs seem to be big favourites presumably because they're from Leinster and bet Dublin and Cork.
It's a 50/50 game in my opinion and as usual for underage the team that does more things right on the day will win.
Hopefully it's our ladeens.
Best of luck rossfan.
And to yourself on Saturday Lar!
is the match Sunday a sell out . ticketmasterseems tohave sold out anyway
All tickets may be sold alright but there might be folks "over ticketed" i.e 3 people may have had to buy a "4 or 5 pod"
Efforts were being made via Clubrossie and stolen sheep to get people matched with tickets so I think anyone that wants will be sorted out.
Each County was only getting 1,000 tickets originally till Ky/Tyrone was pulled. Kinda defeats the purpose if a Final if people can't go to see their ream in it.
Anyway UP ROS💛💛💛💛💛💙💙
PS Syferus isn't going and claims there's not much interest in the game :-[
Quote from: Rossfan on August 13, 2021, 03:44:25 PM
All tickets may be sold alright but there might be folks "over ticketed" i.e 3 people may have had to buy a "4 or 5 pod"
Efforts were being made via Clubrossie and stolen sheep to get people matched with tickets so I think anyone that wants will be sorted out.
Each County was only getting 1,000 tickets originally till Ky/Tyrone was pulled. Kinda defeats the purpose if a Final if people can't go to see their ream in it.
Anyway UP ROS💛💛💛💛💛💙💙
PS Syferus isn't going and claims there's not much interest in the game :-[
Hardly much point in going so,
Im exile here in Biffo land and cant get a ticket. if its not sold out. there some feck up on distribution
Promises to be a intriguing All Ireland final on Sunday. Good for the game to see counties in the final with populations of roughly 78k in Offaly and 65k in Roscommon and its not often two neighbours fare off in All-Ireland finals either.
The last time a county won the U21 or U20 All-Ireland with a population of less than 100k was Westmeath back in 1999.
Great to see 2 of the little lads reaching the top of the hill.
Ros Co Board has only 62k under their jurisdiction :'(
I be shouting for Offaly. Be great see them do it
. Couldn't begrudge the rossies either
Quote from: Rossfan on August 13, 2021, 05:36:48 PM
Great to see 2 of the little lads reaching the top of the hill.
Ros Co Board has only 62k under their jurisdiction :'(
That include Ballymoe, Creggs, Ballinasloe etc?
Ballinasloe all in Galway, Glinsk is Galway Club in St Croans parish, Creggs includes 300? maybe Galway people.
Anyway UP ROSS💛💛💛💛💛💙💙.
Hard to predict with once off underage teams and no prelim competition. I see Offaly are favourites everywhere.
Once our lads leave it all on the field we can ask for no more whatever the outcome.
Hopefully they'll enjoy the biggest game of their lives to date. They've given us a few great weeks and lifted the gloom of the Senior displays.
Great start to the game. Offaly look great going forward loose in defence..Roscommon should have a goal but offaly keeper made a good save
Offaly very fortunate to be 2 up. Roscommon should have had a penalty for a foot block and have missed 2 easy goal chances.
Half time Offaly 0-7 Roscommon 0-5. Decent half of football, Roscommon could easily be leading but didn't take a number of early goal chances. Possible foot block ignored by the officials.
Offaly flying in this half, water break coming at a good time for Roscommon
Goal for offaly
Better team won, though Roscommon could had 3 goals in the first half.
Quote from: armaghniac on August 15, 2021, 02:45:55 PM
Quote from: Rudi on August 15, 2021, 02:39:02 PM
Goal for offaly
and one in retaliation for Rosc.
In fairness the better team won, Roscommon just missed far too much
Enjoyed that, well done Offaly.
Brilliant game of football. Congrats to the Offaly lads.
Roscommon left to rue those missed chances first half. Congrats to Offaly. 1-14 to 1-11 in an exciting final.
Very good game, Offaly N12 gets MOTM but that FF was a seriously classy footballer.
Well deserved, Offaly the better team. They've had some run to win it, great to see an unlikely winner.
Some quality footballers there, hopefully they push on at senior level too.
Great to see a new winner there. Roscommon had a few quality operators in there too. That 14 has been great all year in any highlights I have seen.
End to end stuff, great game played at a serious pace to finish off what was a great U-20 championship. Roscommon will rue a few missed goal chances in the first half but Offaly just had a bit more class up front. Numbers 13 and 14 were brilliant all championship in the 3 games I watched but 12 deservedly won MOTM today. Glad for a great GAA county like Offaly.
Good weekend overall for Gaelic football.
Well done Offaly. Always good to see a new county win. Hopefully that will do great things for Offaly football.
Quote from: yellowcard on August 15, 2021, 03:16:23 PM
End to end stuff, great game played at a serious pace to finish off what was a great U-20 championship. Roscommon will rue a few missed goal chances in the first half but Offaly just had a bit more class up front. Numbers 13 and 14 were brilliant all championship in the 3 games I watched but 12 deservedly won MOTM today. Glad for a great GAA county like Offaly.
Little of the cagey side to side stuff, you could imagine this game between Roscommon and Offaly in 1981. Great to see Offaly's name back on the silverware, they are one of the great GAA counties.
Feck them, would be nothing wrong with seeing Ros' name on it either!
Better, sharper team won but we didn't help ourselves by a goal obsession early on.
A lot of wrong options at times but a spirited fightback.
Not sure why Wynne wasn't a starter.
A few lads underperforming left on too long.
Ah well it was good while it lasted.
Keith Doyle and Colin Walsh up to Senior panel right away please.
Hard luck to our neighbours. I was hoping you'd do it but it wasn't to be. As others have said Offaly have played great football this year.
Good final in what was a entertaining campaign. Offaly the more clinical side in the end congrats to them, massive support their brought to Croke Park and a long overdue All-Ireland football success to celebrate.
I think both sides should have a good number to go on play senior inter-county and I'd hope moving forward that HQ treat this grade with respect and make it set for the summer months with the final in Croke Park.
Well done Offaly. Great to see a different name emerging.
Also good to see Shane Lowry at the match.
Quote from: Cunny Funt on August 15, 2021, 06:14:13 PM
I'd hope moving forward that HQ treat this grade with respect and make it set for the summer months with the final in Croke Park.
+1.
As I've said before have an All Ireland Finals weekend with Minor, U20 and any B, Tier2 or Tailteann Finals as a triple header on the Saturday and the Big One Sunday.
Have all 6 or 8 teams at an official GAA dinner the Sunday night etc
Congrats to Offaly. We can have regrets but no complaints. The better team won. Took their scores well, were full of energy throughout. Some great players that will become senior stars for Offaly. Regrets because we missed a lot of good chances in first half. However this team from the first game have always gone for goals, scored 13 great ones on this journey, and I love that in the players, and hope to see some graduate to senior in a year or two. Almost hauled back the 7 points in the end, but not to be. Again congrats to Offaly, enjoy a famous victory.
Yes, the game could have panned out differently had Roscommon snatched an early goal.
Offaly were fortunate that when the goal did finally come they had built up a cushion. It made for a tense finish.
And this is the hallmark of this Offaly side. Dazzling, high speed attacks, yet living precariously at times and holding on in games that should have closed out.
Roscommon people will be pleased with the spirit their players showed and they have a couple of very useful prospects. Any Offaly burst of scores was responded to.
Overall, the main difference being that Offaly were quicker to transition into attack. Roscommon were slower in the build up play and left themselves more vulnerable to turnovers.
The third quarter run of scores when Offaly finally managed to cut loose will be the abiding memory.
Yesterday was an unexpected glory day for Offaly people as many of us assumed the possibility of challenging for honours was remote and distant in the future, if ever.
I remember growing up in the 80s and 90s Offaly were regularly up in Croke Park contending. In a year like 1998, Offaly played on 10 different match days in Croke Park.
Of the attendance of 24,000 yesterday, there was at least 15,000 Offaly supporters. It's a long time since anything approaching that number went to watch Offaly.
I'd estimate it is 15 years since a match day special train pulled into Clara, Tullamore and Portarlington.
To see the gangs young fellas hitting the streets of Dublin, mad for drink, like we all did years ago. They wouldn't have been born when Offaly were last in the hunt for a trophy.
There is a definite feel good factor in the county right now. However there is also a recognition that there are lot of rungs on the ladder above them in senior hurling and football.
This win in isolation would make a small improvement but the hope is that every up and coming Offaly underage group gets a boost from it.
Quote from: Cunny Funt on August 15, 2021, 06:14:13 PM
I'd hope moving forward that HQ treat this grade with respect and make it set for the summer months with the final in Croke Park.
Been a super championship - a lot of great games.
Obviously the major negative was poor Brendan Óg Ó Dufaig.
I do think the GAA could do a lot more in terms of promotion of this grade - a fair few of the games were almost hidden away on TG4's Youtube channel - I spoke to two different GAA folk about these games and neither of them realised they were being broadcast - I don't know do the GAA as an organisation realise that being on an Irish language station is a real drawback in terms of a serious chunk of viewers in the country - over the years I've had a number of similar conversations with serious GAA people about TG4 - there seems to be a lot of GAA people who will only watch TG4 if ther own county/club is playing and will mute the commentary/there's others who don't watch TG4 at all. I can't help but wonder what sort of viewership these games would have got if broadcast on the GAA's own YouTube channel versus on RTE 2.
Quote from: Bord na Mona man on August 16, 2021, 12:27:06 PM
Yes, the game could have panned out differently had Roscommon snatched an early goal.
Offaly were fortunate that when the goal did finally come they had built up a cushion. It made for a tense finish.
And this is the hallmark of this Offaly side. Dazzling, high speed attacks, yet living precariously at times and holding on in games that should have closed out.
Roscommon people will be pleased with the spirit their players showed and they have a couple of very useful prospects. Any Offaly burst of scores was responded to.
Overall, the main difference being that Offaly were quicker to transition into attack. Roscommon were slower in the build up play and left themselves more vulnerable to turnovers.
The third quarter run of scores when Offaly finally managed to cut loose will be the abiding memory.
Yesterday was an unexpected glory day for Offaly people as many of us assumed the possibility of challenging for honours was remote and distant in the future, if ever.
I remember growing up in the 80s and 90s Offaly were regularly up in Croke Park contending. In a year like 1998, Offaly played on 10 different match days in Croke Park.
Of the attendance of 24,000 yesterday, there was at least 15,000 Offaly supporters. It's a long time since anything approaching that number went to watch Offaly.
I'd estimate it is 15 years since a match day special train pulled into Clara, Tullamore and Portarlington.
To see the gangs young fellas hitting the streets of Dublin, mad for drink, like we all did years ago. They wouldn't have been born when Offaly were last in the hunt for a trophy.
There is a definite feel good factor in the county right now. However there is also a recognition that there are lot of rungs on the ladder above them in senior hurling and football.
This win in isolation would make a small improvement but the hope is that every up and coming Offaly underage group gets a boost from it.
You might be talking about 1989 - An Offaly team played in HQ every time it was open that year for inter-county C'ship games. A mad summer
Great win yesterday, hopefully the teams can keep the momentum going into 2022.
Speed of transition and a bit of luck early on won it.
Quote from: twohands!!! on August 16, 2021, 02:19:38 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on August 15, 2021, 06:14:13 PM
I'd hope moving forward that HQ treat this grade with respect and make it set for the summer months with the final in Croke Park.
Been a super championship - a lot of great games.
Obviously the major negative was poor Brendan Óg Ó Dufaig.
I do think the GAA could do a lot more in terms of promotion of this grade - a fair few of the games were almost hidden away on TG4's Youtube channel - I spoke to two different GAA folk about these games and neither of them realised they were being broadcast - I don't know do the GAA as an organisation realise that being on an Irish language station is a real drawback in terms of a serious chunk of viewers in the country - over the years I've had a number of similar conversations with serious GAA people about TG4 - there seems to be a lot of GAA people who will only watch TG4 if ther own county/club is playing and will mute the commentary/there's others who don't watch TG4 at all. I can't help but wonder what sort of viewership these games would have got if broadcast on the GAA's own YouTube channel versus on RTE 2.
I think TG4 do a great job broadcasting these matches and neither do I find too many people complaining about them either. I don't understand most of the commentary either but it doesn't put me off in the slightest, the game itself is the most important factor and it's good promotion of our native language. RTE has got so bland recently that it might actually be a positive anyway.
I love watching the club matches on TG4 in the winter months, it's real & authentic and lacks most of the hype of the county stuff.
Quote from: Muck Savage on August 16, 2021, 05:21:20 PM
Quote from: Bord na Mona man on August 16, 2021, 12:27:06 PM
Yes, the game could have panned out differently had Roscommon snatched an early goal.
Offaly were fortunate that when the goal did finally come they had built up a cushion. It made for a tense finish.
And this is the hallmark of this Offaly side. Dazzling, high speed attacks, yet living precariously at times and holding on in games that should have closed out.
Roscommon people will be pleased with the spirit their players showed and they have a couple of very useful prospects. Any Offaly burst of scores was responded to.
Overall, the main difference being that Offaly were quicker to transition into attack. Roscommon were slower in the build up play and left themselves more vulnerable to turnovers.
The third quarter run of scores when Offaly finally managed to cut loose will be the abiding memory.
Yesterday was an unexpected glory day for Offaly people as many of us assumed the possibility of challenging for honours was remote and distant in the future, if ever.
I remember growing up in the 80s and 90s Offaly were regularly up in Croke Park contending. In a year like 1998, Offaly played on 10 different match days in Croke Park.
Of the attendance of 24,000 yesterday, there was at least 15,000 Offaly supporters. It's a long time since anything approaching that number went to watch Offaly.
I'd estimate it is 15 years since a match day special train pulled into Clara, Tullamore and Portarlington.
To see the gangs young fellas hitting the streets of Dublin, mad for drink, like we all did years ago. They wouldn't have been born when Offaly were last in the hunt for a trophy.
There is a definite feel good factor in the county right now. However there is also a recognition that there are lot of rungs on the ladder above them in senior hurling and football.
This win in isolation would make a small improvement but the hope is that every up and coming Offaly underage group gets a boost from it.
You might be talking about 1989 - An Offaly team played in HQ every time it was open that year for inter-county C'ship games. A mad summer
Great win yesterday, hopefully the teams can keep the momentum going into 2022.
Speed of transition and a bit of luck early on won it.
Out of interest how many of the Offaly players yesterday are U20 again next year?
Quote from: Muck Savage on August 16, 2021, 05:21:20 PM
Quote from: Bord na Mona man on August 16, 2021, 12:27:06 PM
Yes, the game could have panned out differently had Roscommon snatched an early goal.
Offaly were fortunate that when the goal did finally come they had built up a cushion. It made for a tense finish.
And this is the hallmark of this Offaly side. Dazzling, high speed attacks, yet living precariously at times and holding on in games that should have closed out.
Roscommon people will be pleased with the spirit their players showed and they have a couple of very useful prospects. Any Offaly burst of scores was responded to.
Overall, the main difference being that Offaly were quicker to transition into attack. Roscommon were slower in the build up play and left themselves more vulnerable to turnovers.
The third quarter run of scores when Offaly finally managed to cut loose will be the abiding memory.
Yesterday was an unexpected glory day for Offaly people as many of us assumed the possibility of challenging for honours was remote and distant in the future, if ever.
I remember growing up in the 80s and 90s Offaly were regularly up in Croke Park contending. In a year like 1998, Offaly played on 10 different match days in Croke Park.
Of the attendance of 24,000 yesterday, there was at least 15,000 Offaly supporters. It's a long time since anything approaching that number went to watch Offaly.
I'd estimate it is 15 years since a match day special train pulled into Clara, Tullamore and Portarlington.
To see the gangs young fellas hitting the streets of Dublin, mad for drink, like we all did years ago. They wouldn't have been born when Offaly were last in the hunt for a trophy.
There is a definite feel good factor in the county right now. However there is also a recognition that there are lot of rungs on the ladder above them in senior hurling and football.
This win in isolation would make a small improvement but the hope is that every up and coming Offaly underage group gets a boost from it.
You might be talking about 1989 - An Offaly team played in HQ every time it was open that year for inter-county C'ship games. A mad summer
Great win yesterday, hopefully the teams can keep the momentum going into 2022.
Speed of transition and a bit of luck early on won it.
I believe you are nearly correct about 1989 when both minor teams got to All Ireland finals, but I don't think an Offaly team would have played before the Ulster - Connacht All Ireland football semi?
In 1998 the footballers played a league semi final, final and Leinster championship vs Meath.
The hurlers played 7 out of 8 games in Crow Park and one in Thurles.
Quote from: Bord na Mona man on August 16, 2021, 07:03:21 PM
Quote from: Muck Savage on August 16, 2021, 05:21:20 PM
Quote from: Bord na Mona man on August 16, 2021, 12:27:06 PM
Yes, the game could have panned out differently had Roscommon snatched an early goal.
Offaly were fortunate that when the goal did finally come they had built up a cushion. It made for a tense finish.
And this is the hallmark of this Offaly side. Dazzling, high speed attacks, yet living precariously at times and holding on in games that should have closed out.
Roscommon people will be pleased with the spirit their players showed and they have a couple of very useful prospects. Any Offaly burst of scores was responded to.
Overall, the main difference being that Offaly were quicker to transition into attack. Roscommon were slower in the build up play and left themselves more vulnerable to turnovers.
The third quarter run of scores when Offaly finally managed to cut loose will be the abiding memory.
Yesterday was an unexpected glory day for Offaly people as many of us assumed the possibility of challenging for honours was remote and distant in the future, if ever.
I remember growing up in the 80s and 90s Offaly were regularly up in Croke Park contending. In a year like 1998, Offaly played on 10 different match days in Croke Park.
Of the attendance of 24,000 yesterday, there was at least 15,000 Offaly supporters. It's a long time since anything approaching that number went to watch Offaly.
I'd estimate it is 15 years since a match day special train pulled into Clara, Tullamore and Portarlington.
To see the gangs young fellas hitting the streets of Dublin, mad for drink, like we all did years ago. They wouldn't have been born when Offaly were last in the hunt for a trophy.
There is a definite feel good factor in the county right now. However there is also a recognition that there are lot of rungs on the ladder above them in senior hurling and football.
This win in isolation would make a small improvement but the hope is that every up and coming Offaly underage group gets a boost from it.
You might be talking about 1989 - An Offaly team played in HQ every time it was open that year for inter-county C'ship games. A mad summer
Great win yesterday, hopefully the teams can keep the momentum going into 2022.
Speed of transition and a bit of luck early on won it.
I believe you are nearly correct about 1989 when both minor teams got to All Ireland finals, but I don't think an Offaly team would have played before the Ulster - Connacht All Ireland football semi?
In 1998 the footballers played a league semi final, final and Leinster championship vs Meath.
The hurlers played 7 out of 8 games in Crow Park and one in Thurles.
U21 hurlers played Antrim (I believe) before the minor football final Ulster/Connacht semi final. It was a mad summer one I won't forget as we went to every game that summer. Hopefully days like those are on the way back.
Quote from: Bord na Mona man on August 16, 2021, 12:27:06 PM
Yes, the game could have panned out differently had Roscommon snatched an early goal.
Offaly were fortunate that when the goal did finally come they had built up a cushion. It made for a tense finish.
And this is the hallmark of this Offaly side. Dazzling, high speed attacks, yet living precariously at times and holding on in games that should have closed out.
Roscommon people will be pleased with the spirit their players showed and they have a couple of very useful prospects. Any Offaly burst of scores was responded to.
Overall, the main difference being that Offaly were quicker to transition into attack. Roscommon were slower in the build up play and left themselves more vulnerable to turnovers.
The third quarter run of scores when Offaly finally managed to cut loose will be the abiding memory.
Yesterday was an unexpected glory day for Offaly people as many of us assumed the possibility of challenging for honours was remote and distant in the future, if ever.
I remember growing up in the 80s and 90s Offaly were regularly up in Croke Park contending. In a year like 1998, Offaly played on 10 different match days in Croke Park.
Of the attendance of 24,000 yesterday, there was at least 15,000 Offaly supporters. It's a long time since anything approaching that number went to watch Offaly.
I'd estimate it is 15 years since a match day special train pulled into Clara, Tullamore and Portarlington.
To see the gangs young fellas hitting the streets of Dublin, mad for drink, like we all did years ago. They wouldn't have been born when Offaly were last in the hunt for a trophy.
There is a definite feel good factor in the county right now. However there is also a recognition that there are lot of rungs on the ladder above them in senior hurling and football.
This win in isolation would make a small improvement but the hope is that every up and coming Offaly underage group gets a boost from it.
Are there many dual players on that team?
Delighted for Offaly. Actually holidaying down in Tullamore for a few days and there is a great buzz about the place.
Hopefully a lot of those young fellas on both teams transition into senior level. Interesting to hear Oisin McConville saying that many could fit in almost immediately to senior side(which i would agree with) but Kevin Mc Stay saying they wouldn't have the strength and conditioning yet.
Quote from: grounded on August 17, 2021, 02:13:47 PM
Delighted for Offaly. Actually holidaying down in Tullamore for a few days and there is a great buzz about the place.
Hopefully a lot of those young fellas on both teams transition into senior level. Interesting to hear Oisin McConville saying that many could fit in almost immediately to senior side(which i would agree with) but Kevin Mc Stay saying they wouldn't have the strength and conditioning yet.
If this grade was still U21 I'd agree with Oisin McConville. Looking at the two teams I'd say only a handful look conditioned and ready to make the step up to senior level next year.
Top 20 players.
Tom Smyth (Down)
Charlie Smyth (Down)
Lee Pearson (Offaly)
John Furlong (Offaly)
Colin Walsh (Roscommon)
Paddy Gavin (Roscommon)
Diarmaid Phelan (Cork)
Ruairí Keane (Mayo)
Rory Dwyer (Dublin)
Cathal Flynn (Offaly)
Cathal Donoghue (Offaly)
Cormac Egan (Offaly)
Jack Bryant (Offaly)
Daire Cregg (Roscommon)
James Fitzpatrick (Roscommon)
Seán Jones (Monaghan)
Shealan Johnston (Down)
Jack Cahalane (Cork)
David Buckley (Cork)
Seán O'Connor (Tipperary)
https://www.gaa.ie/football/news/eirgrid-announce-top-20-players-of-2021-u20-football-championship/