Westminster Election 12th December 2019

[Fear Bun Na Sceilpe]

Hanna and Eastwood will be articulate MPs who will explain the nationalist position in London very well.  All necessary to keep progressing towards a New Ireland.  In contrast, what is the point of MPs like Micky Brady and Francie Molloy.  I literally couldn't tell you what they do from one week to the next.

Hanna and Eastwood will make no difference in London - Eastwood said he'll stop Brexit, if elected. Good luck with that a chara! 

Hanna, on the other hand, is likeable but as they were saying on the radio today, she is too nice - full of general soundbites but where does she stand on a re-united Ireland etc.  Won't commit or rock the boat.  Be neutral and bei g everybody's friend won't go on forever.

what difference do SF MLAs make?
What difference do SF MPs make?
What difference do SF TDs make?

Are they fraudsters ?

Eastwood's pledge was "he'll stop Brexit", if elected.

A day later, he's re-evaluating his statement.

They'll make no difference in London - simple as.  You should read some of my other messages re: SF.

Pearse Doherty the best of the T.D.'s.  Doing great works on the mortgage crisis/banks and only this week, super work on car insurance.

As I stated before, cllrs. do more work for local people than MLAs or MPs - they make a difference locally.

Are you seriously suggesting that the people of Foyle believed that Eastwood was claiming he would stop Brexit even if Johnson had an majority of 80? They didn't believe that. You don't believe that. Your line of reasoning is daft beyond measure.

I'll have to plead ignorance on Doherty. I don't doubt he has talent but I'm unaware what he has delivered? Happy to illuminated

Imagine a politician telling porkies...who'd have thought it?

#movethegoalposts

Do some research yourself re: Doherty. You claim ignorance but, in the same sentence, say he has talent.  Strange.

P.S. When is Colum stopping Brexit - any timeline mentioned??

That is just brainless stuff.

Porkies and moving goal posts. Francis Molliy stood on a United Ireland manifesto. I'll give him to Christmas or I'll expect him to resign. If he doesn't I will get him to talk to you

I've done some research on Doherty. Decent speaker. You might even say he had a talent for it. But I didn't see any evidence of delivery on the issues you mentioned

Brainless stuff indeed...I'll stop Brexit if elected...lol.

Doherty a disgrace. Gaoth Dobhair in tatters

[Milltown Row2]

Nonsense and if Labour continue to move forward believing Brexit was the sole reason for their catastrophic defeat they will repeat their mistakes and rot in opposition. A JC anointed successor will be electoral poision from the get go as well.

Can you address the Angela Merkel point then.

She is a centre-right politician. Corbyn advocates lower taxes and lower rates of public ownership than a recognised centre right politician. Show me how that is hard left?

Lower taxes? Had he got in I'd have been taxed more!

Corbyn advocates lower taxes than Angela Merkel is what he said.

That seems to be the problem with Labour, lots of stuff didn't seem to add up

List them

The shadow chancellor listed them earlier on tv.

[Milltown Row2]

Nonsense and if Labour continue to move forward believing Brexit was the sole reason for their catastrophic defeat they will repeat their mistakes and rot in opposition. A JC anointed successor will be electoral poision from the get go as well.

Can you address the Angela Merkel point then.

She is a centre-right politician. Corbyn advocates lower taxes and lower rates of public ownership than a recognised centre right politician. Show me how that is hard left?

Lower taxes? Had he got in I'd have been taxed more!

Corbyn advocates lower taxes than Angela Merkel is what he said.

That seems to be the problem with Labour, lots of stuff didn't seem to add up

You are going to get your Brexit now

Well I know where to go when it all goes tits up, halfpenny bridge

[Rossfan]

 Well folks it's all over now as Bozo with 43% of the vote gets nearly 60% of the seats and the 11 MPs taking their seats from the 6 Cos become an irrelevance.
Hopefully this election has speeded up the process of dismantling the Vile Union aka "United Kingdom of Great Britain and North(east)ern Ireland.

[Kidder81]

Nonsense and if Labour continue to move forward believing Brexit was the sole reason for their catastrophic defeat they will repeat their mistakes and rot in opposition. A JC anointed successor will be electoral poision from the get go as well.

Can you address the Angela Merkel point then.

She is a centre-right politician. Corbyn advocates lower taxes and lower rates of public ownership than a recognised centre right politician. Show me how that is hard left?

Lower taxes? Had he got in I'd have been taxed more!

Corbyn advocates lower taxes than Angela Merkel is what he said.

That seems to be the problem with Labour, lots of stuff didn't seem to add up

List them

The shadow chancellor listed them earlier on tv.

John McDonnell himself told Labour figures he didn't want to spend another day defending figures on public spending from the manifesto

"I don't want to spend another day fielding legitimate (alongside the usual illegitimate) questions about numbers I am not comfortable with and wouldn't have put out."

[Milltown Row2]

Nonsense and if Labour continue to move forward believing Brexit was the sole reason for their catastrophic defeat they will repeat their mistakes and rot in opposition. A JC anointed successor will be electoral poision from the get go as well.

Can you address the Angela Merkel point then.

She is a centre-right politician. Corbyn advocates lower taxes and lower rates of public ownership than a recognised centre right politician. Show me how that is hard left?

Lower taxes? Had he got in I'd have been taxed more!

Corbyn advocates lower taxes than Angela Merkel is what he said.

That seems to be the problem with Labour, lots of stuff didn't seem to add up

List them

The shadow chancellor listed them earlier on tv.

John McDonnell himself told Labour figures he didn't want to spend another day defending figures on public spending from the manifesto

"I don't want to spend another day fielding legitimate (alongside the usual illegitimate) questions about numbers I am not comfortable with and wouldn't have put out."

He took full blame for the whole thing, so whatever he produced obviously was a piss of shit if he went with that statement. Either way it's done, that type of Labour has done nothing. JC didn't seem to want to remain in the EU and list any momentum from the last election.

[seafoid]

https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/opendemocracyuk/dont-blame-corbyn-or-brexit-labour-failed-to-fight-our-broken-politics/

[whitey]

If Labour is upset at being branded "far left" by the media, maybe they shouldn't have picked a fvckin Stalinist as their Head of Strategy-Seamus Milne

[Eamonnca1]

Do you mind? Adults talking.

[screenexile]

Do you mind? Adults talking.

Whitey's right this time... just because a lot of staunch Labour people love Corbyn means f**k all the electorate don't and that's all that matters!!

Labour fucked up on Brexit by not having a clear stance on it, this in turn fucked up any chance they had of forming electoral pacts with Lib Dems/Greens around the place. Along with not apologising for the handling of Anti Semitism within the party and then dealing with it properly (Which I agree has been blown out of proportion but it needed to be seen to be handled a lot better than it was). Then you have the Corbyn "terrorist sympathiser" narrative which from a lot of voter opinion I've seen in the last few days was a very real thing.

All this nonsense about how "popular their policies are" is a misnomer they've just had their asses kicked the policies couldn't have been that popular!

They need a major look at how they can appeal to the masses again and appealing to a crowd of wing nuts in Momentum isn't going to work!!

[Applesisapples]

Hanna and Eastwood will be articulate MPs who will explain the nationalist position in London very well.  All necessary to keep progressing towards a New Ireland.  In contrast, what is the point of MPs like Micky Brady and Francie Molloy.  I literally couldn't tell you what they do from one week to the next.

Don't know Francie but Mickey a superb representative couldn't do enough for you.

This is a naive comment, the two English MP's remaining in the Chamber to listen to Colum and Claire will be asleep and the Tory press in the UK won't give them a paragraph. The electorate has given SF a wake up call on the issue of O'Neill's leadership. If she is not replaced they will lose more votes.

[trailer]

Hanna and Eastwood will be articulate MPs who will explain the nationalist position in London very well.  All necessary to keep progressing towards a New Ireland.  In contrast, what is the point of MPs like Micky Brady and Francie Molloy.  I literally couldn't tell you what they do from one week to the next.

Don't know Francie but Mickey a superb representative couldn't do enough for you.

This is a naive comment, the two English MP's remaining in the Chamber to listen to Colum and Claire will be asleep and the Tory press in the UK won't give them a paragraph. The electorate has given SF a wake up call on the issue of O'Neill's leadership. If she is not replaced they will lose more votes.

It's not O'Neill's leadership. It's not going to work. Either in Stormont or Westminster. Replacing O'Neill and not turning up won't make any difference. You have to go to your work and sort Education and Health and Infrastructure and Agriculture. SF aren't doing that and they will continue to be punished by the electorate.

[seafoid]

belfasttelegraph.co.uk/opinion/columnists/ruth-dudley-edwards/ruth-dudley-edwards-my-euphoria-at-seeing-the-uk-rescued-from-extremists-who-would-have-destroyed-it-38787183.html...

"English voters .. will always choose moderation.
Culturally, they are sensible, patriotic (in the best sense of the word), suspicious of ideology, pragmatic and opposed to extremism of any kind. "

[Applesisapples]

Hanna and Eastwood will be articulate MPs who will explain the nationalist position in London very well.  All necessary to keep progressing towards a New Ireland.  In contrast, what is the point of MPs like Micky Brady and Francie Molloy.  I literally couldn't tell you what they do from one week to the next.

Don't know Francie but Mickey a superb representative couldn't do enough for you.

This is a naive comment, the two English MP's remaining in the Chamber to listen to Colum and Claire will be asleep and the Tory press in the UK won't give them a paragraph. The electorate has given SF a wake up call on the issue of O'Neill's leadership. If she is not replaced they will lose more votes.

It's not O'Neill's leadership. It's not going to work. Either in Stormont or Westminster. Replacing O'Neill and not turning up won't make any difference. You have to go to your work and sort Education and Health and Infrastructure and Agriculture. SF aren't doing that and they will continue to be punished by the electorate.

That won't be changed at Westminster, the big change in Nationalist politics in recent months has been pressure on health and education which can only be sorted at Stormont. But O'Neill is an issue.

[Applesisapples]

On the border poll, as a nationalists I'm sick to death of SF bringing this up with out any idea of a plan to deliver it, they wouldn't deliver a majority within their own community let alone NI.