Australia
https://www.ft.com/content/73c4f0b6-d5c7-47c8-b91c-8e84343dfd85
Chinese companies are increasingly questioning whether or not they are welcome here," says Warwick Smith, a former executive director of Macquarie Bank and politician. He warns that Canberra is coming under "more and more pressure" from Washington to choose the US over China and business is concerned that government's actions are causing unnecessary damage to relations with Beijing.
But Beijing has suspended imports of beef from some Australian meat processors and last week slapped tariffs of up to 80 per cent on its barley imports. Far from rescuing Canberra from its difficulties, there is growing concern that Beijing may look to exploit the country's vulnerability by targeting other important trade sectors. "If we're going to go into the biggest debt we've had in our life and then simultaneously poke our biggest provider of income in the eye, it's not necessarily the smartest thing you can do," says Mr Stokes. "If Beijing's anger is not quelled it could have catastrophic consequences for the economy."
Europe
https://www.ft.com/content/7d500105-4349-4721-b4f5-179de6a58f08
Although driven chiefly by a sense of great power rivalry with the US, much of the fallout during the coronavirus crisis has been in Europe. "They have started talking to us in a tone that they would have only used towards countries they considered small or weak," said a German diplomat. Mareike Ohlberg, a scholar at the German Marshall Fund who specialises in Chinese influence campaigns in Europe, said: "In the past, towards us, they had stressed the long-term, the positive, the constructive. It is the first time that we are seeing destructive messaging on a large scale towards Europe
GOP
https://www.mcsally.senate.gov/news/videos/watch/mcsally-were-entering-a-new-cold-war-with-china
Who is more trustworthy?
The Chinese are certainly more predictable.
It would have huge implications for Brexit. In 2016 the headbangers planned to trade with both China and the US.
Power is ugly . Just look at Irish history.
Shouldn't you swap US for Trump in the headline?
This will end when the single cell organism is removed from the White House.
Quote from: Rossfan on May 25, 2020, 01:11:40 PM
This will end when the single cell organism is removed from the White House.
Do you think past presidents were any different? Or future presidents?
None of them are put there to look after the common man.
True but the current thing is a unique specimen.
Quote from: BennyCake on May 25, 2020, 01:35:37 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on May 25, 2020, 01:11:40 PM
This will end when the single cell organism is removed from the White House.
Do you think past presidents were any different? Or future presidents?
None of them are put there to look after the common man.
Like him or loathe him, in the United States version of a democracy he was elected by people primarily from States, that were marginalised by the previous Democrat administration. Having being to states like South Dakota, Wisconsin, Nebraska & Tennessee/ Alabama before and after Trumps inauguration,got to say these states are doing much better. At the end of day people care about jobs and prospects for their kids, chit talk on social media platforms dont mean chit.
Quote from: Rossfan on May 25, 2020, 02:13:21 PM
True but the current thing is a unique specimen.
That he surely is, but he's only a puppet for powerful forces pushing this agenda.
Quote from: grounded on May 25, 2020, 02:25:31 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on May 25, 2020, 02:13:21 PM
True but the current thing is a unique specimen.
That he surely is, but he's only a puppet for powerful forces pushing this agenda.
Exactly. He's there to serve the interests of the top 0.1%
Quote from: Rudi on May 25, 2020, 02:24:48 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on May 25, 2020, 01:35:37 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on May 25, 2020, 01:11:40 PM
This will end when the single cell organism is removed from the White House.
Do you think past presidents were any different? Or future presidents?
None of them are put there to look after the common man.
Like him or loathe him, in the United States version of a democracy he was elected by people primarily from States, that were marginalised by the previous Democrat administration. Having being to states like South Dakota, Wisconsin, Nebraska & Tennessee/ Alabama before and after Trumps inauguration,got to say these states are doing much better. At the end of day people care about jobs and prospects for their kids, chit talk on social media platforms dont mean chit.
They said the same in Germany in the 1930s ;)
Quote from: Rossfan on May 25, 2020, 03:23:34 PM
Quote from: Rudi on May 25, 2020, 02:24:48 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on May 25, 2020, 01:35:37 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on May 25, 2020, 01:11:40 PM
This will end when the single cell organism is removed from the White House.
Do you think past presidents were any different? Or future presidents?
None of them are put there to look after the common man.
Like him or loathe him, in the United States version of a democracy he was elected by people primarily from States, that were marginalised by the previous Democrat administration. Having being to states like South Dakota, Wisconsin, Nebraska & Tennessee/ Alabama before and after Trumps inauguration,got to say these states are doing much better. At the end of day people care about jobs and prospects for their kids, chit talk on social media platforms dont mean chit.
They said the same in Germany in the 1930s ;)
Is that what Karen told you :)
Quote from: Rudi on May 25, 2020, 02:24:48 PM
Like him or loathe him, in the United States version of a democracy he was elected by people primarily from States, that were marginalised by the previous Democrat administration. Having being to states like South Dakota, Wisconsin, Nebraska & Tennessee/ Alabama before and after Trumps inauguration,got to say these states are doing much better. At the end of day people care about jobs and prospects for their kids, chit talk on social media platforms dont mean chit.
Do you think that said states started doing better in 2018 off the election of Trump in 2016?
Quote from: RadioGAAGAA on May 25, 2020, 04:19:16 PM
Quote from: Rudi on May 25, 2020, 02:24:48 PM
Like him or loathe him, in the United States version of a democracy he was elected by people primarily from States, that were marginalised by the previous Democrat administration. Having being to states like South Dakota, Wisconsin, Nebraska & Tennessee/ Alabama before and after Trumps inauguration,got to say these states are doing much better. At the end of day people care about jobs and prospects for their kids, chit talk on social media platforms dont mean chit.
Do you think that said states started doing better in 2018 off the election of Trump in 2016?
I do, I'm talking about middle America doing better, places like New Richmond Wi, Huntsville Al etc. Wisconsin unemployment fell from 9.8 to 3.4%. Industry is booming, consequently peoples expectations are better. Don't get me wrong he's a horror show of a man, but his adminstration makes more of an interest in looking after middle America than let say Hilary would.
Quote from: Rudi on May 25, 2020, 04:37:58 PM
Quote from: RadioGAAGAA on May 25, 2020, 04:19:16 PM
Quote from: Rudi on May 25, 2020, 02:24:48 PM
Like him or loathe him, in the United States version of a democracy he was elected by people primarily from States, that were marginalised by the previous Democrat administration. Having being to states like South Dakota, Wisconsin, Nebraska & Tennessee/ Alabama before and after Trumps inauguration,got to say these states are doing much better. At the end of day people care about jobs and prospects for their kids, chit talk on social media platforms dont mean chit.
Do you think that said states started doing better in 2018 off the election of Trump in 2016?
I do, I'm talking about middle America doing better, places like New Richmond Wi, Huntsville Al etc. Wisconsin unemployment fell from 9.8 to 3.4%. Industry is booming, consequently peoples expectations are better. Don't get me wrong he's a horror show of a man, but his adminstration makes more of an interest in looking after middle America than let say Hilary would.
US unemployment is shockingly high again
Quote from: seafoid on May 25, 2020, 05:13:49 PM
Quote from: Rudi on May 25, 2020, 04:37:58 PM
Quote from: RadioGAAGAA on May 25, 2020, 04:19:16 PM
Quote from: Rudi on May 25, 2020, 02:24:48 PM
Like him or loathe him, in the United States version of a democracy he was elected by people primarily from States, that were marginalised by the previous Democrat administration. Having being to states like South Dakota, Wisconsin, Nebraska & Tennessee/ Alabama before and after Trumps inauguration,got to say these states are doing much better. At the end of day people care about jobs and prospects for their kids, chit talk on social media platforms dont mean chit.
Do you think that said states started doing better in 2018 off the election of Trump in 2016?
I do, I'm talking about middle America doing better, places like New Richmond Wi, Huntsville Al etc. Wisconsin unemployment fell from 9.8 to 3.4%. Industry is booming, consequently peoples expectations are better. Don't get me wrong he's a horror show of a man, but his adminstration makes more of an interest in looking after middle America than let say Hilary would.
US unemployment is shockingly high again
Seafoid, I have to say I really enjoyed your honest football analysis, but that statement is pure nonsense.
I live in the US, for the past three decades, in February, the unemployment rate was 3.6%, that is a fact. The running joke was that in prior periods of low employment, you could always find a half decent carpenter or electrician, last year and early this year, you could not find even a shitty one.
The reality is that Trump's tax cuts and less regulation , helped big time, more money was circulating, trickle down effect, consumer sentiment was strong=consumer spending which accounts for 70% of US GDP, was very strong. The Covid-19 pandemic took care of that, big time. Consumer demand went to Zero almost overnight.
To digress a little, how come the Irish Govt are getting away with a one size fits all rules and regulation.
Take for example Bars, how come the same rules apply to pubs in Dublin that have a capacity of 300-400, with a pub in rural Galway or Mayo that have a capacity of 50, (btw the usual attendance on the latter would be more like 15-20) during the week. Apparently the rules for opening are also the same for both areas, draconian to say the least.
I think the states and China have been in a shadow war for awhile now. Isn't the Chinese economy due to overtake the American sometime this decade? How coronavirus impacts that I'm not sure, id guess the Chinese will bounce back much like in 2008 due to their ability to mass produce for the, ahem, good of the state.
Maybe much will depend on the American political situation come election time, not too sure what the story will be but it's very rare for a US President to do one term....it's actually much like Boris over in England. Does Trump have a credible rival? The thing about Trump is, he might not be good for the world, but when this all starts to turn, he'll be good for the US (economy).
Joemamas you'll find that the virus is as transmittable in Galway or Mayo as it is in Temple Bar.
Quote from: Rudi on May 25, 2020, 04:37:58 PM
Quote from: RadioGAAGAA on May 25, 2020, 04:19:16 PM
Do you think that said states started doing better in 2018 off the election of Trump in 2016?
I do, I'm talking about middle America doing better, places like New Richmond Wi, Huntsville Al etc. Wisconsin unemployment fell from 9.8 to 3.4%. Industry is booming, consequently peoples expectations are better. Don't get me wrong he's a horror show of a man, but his adminstration makes more of an interest in looking after middle America than let say Hilary would.
Right.
Now what do you think the upward inertia of a $20T/year economy is?
Do you actually think its measured in months or years?
Quote from: Rudi on May 25, 2020, 04:37:58 PM
Quote from: RadioGAAGAA on May 25, 2020, 04:19:16 PM
Quote from: Rudi on May 25, 2020, 02:24:48 PM
Like him or loathe him, in the United States version of a democracy he was elected by people primarily from States, that were marginalised by the previous Democrat administration. Having being to states like South Dakota, Wisconsin, Nebraska & Tennessee/ Alabama before and after Trumps inauguration,got to say these states are doing much better. At the end of day people care about jobs and prospects for their kids, chit talk on social media platforms dont mean chit.
Do you think that said states started doing better in 2018 off the election of Trump in 2016?
I do, I'm talking about middle America doing better, places like New Richmond Wi, Huntsville Al etc. Wisconsin unemployment fell from 9.8 to 3.4%. Industry is booming, consequently peoples expectations are better. Don't get me wrong he's a horror show of a man, but his adminstration makes more of an interest in looking after middle America than let say Hilary would.
Are you sure about those unemployment statistics...? Try these ... you will find they tell a different tale. https://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LASST550000000000003
They dropped from 9.3 in 2010 to 3.8 before Trump was elected and were on the way up again in Jan after the sugar high from the tax cuts...
Global power is currently in a state of flux
Quote from: omochain on May 25, 2020, 07:31:06 PM
Quote from: Rudi on May 25, 2020, 04:37:58 PM
Quote from: RadioGAAGAA on May 25, 2020, 04:19:16 PM
Quote from: Rudi on May 25, 2020, 02:24:48 PM
Like him or loathe him, in the United States version of a democracy he was elected by people primarily from States, that were marginalised by the previous Democrat administration. Having being to states like South Dakota, Wisconsin, Nebraska & Tennessee/ Alabama before and after Trumps inauguration,got to say these states are doing much better. At the end of day people care about jobs and prospects for their kids, chit talk on social media platforms dont mean chit.
Do you think that said states started doing better in 2018 off the election of Trump in 2016?
I do, I'm talking about middle America doing better, places like New Richmond Wi, Huntsville Al etc. Wisconsin unemployment fell from 9.8 to 3.4%. Industry is booming, consequently peoples expectations are better. Don't get me wrong he's a horror show of a man, but his adminstration makes more of an interest in looking after middle America than let say Hilary would.
Are you sure about those unemployment statistics...? Try these ... you will find they tell a different tale. https://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LASST550000000000003
They dropped from 9.3 in 2010 to 3.8 before Trump was elected and were on the way up again in Jan after the sugar high from the tax cuts...
It's gone from an historic low of 3.1 % in early March to 14 1 % at end of April.
Quote from: RadioGAAGAA on May 25, 2020, 06:54:44 PM
Quote from: Rudi on May 25, 2020, 04:37:58 PM
Quote from: RadioGAAGAA on May 25, 2020, 04:19:16 PM
Do you think that said states started doing better in 2018 off the election of Trump in 2016?
I do, I'm talking about middle America doing better, places like New Richmond Wi, Huntsville Al etc. Wisconsin unemployment fell from 9.8 to 3.4%. Industry is booming, consequently peoples expectations are better. Don't get me wrong he's a horror show of a man, but his adminstration makes more of an interest in looking after middle America than let say Hilary would.
Right.
Now what do you think the upward inertia of a $20T/year economy is?
Do you actually think its measured in months or years?
Years to answer your specific question, not related to the point I was making.
Quote from: Rudi on May 25, 2020, 09:37:30 PM
Quote from: omochain on May 25, 2020, 07:31:06 PM
Quote from: Rudi on May 25, 2020, 04:37:58 PM
Quote from: RadioGAAGAA on May 25, 2020, 04:19:16 PM
Quote from: Rudi on May 25, 2020, 02:24:48 PM
Like him or loathe him, in the United States version of a democracy he was elected by people primarily from States, that were marginalised by the previous Democrat administration. Having being to states like South Dakota, Wisconsin, Nebraska & Tennessee/ Alabama before and after Trumps inauguration,got to say these states are doing much better. At the end of day people care about jobs and prospects for their kids, chit talk on social media platforms dont mean chit.
Do you think that said states started doing better in 2018 off the election of Trump in 2016?
I do, I'm talking about middle America doing better, places like New Richmond Wi, Huntsville Al etc. Wisconsin unemployment fell from 9.8 to 3.4%. Industry is booming, consequently peoples expectations are better. Don't get me wrong he's a horror show of a man, but his adminstration makes more of an interest in looking after middle America than let say Hilary would.
Are you sure about those unemployment statistics...? Try these ... you will find they tell a different tale. https://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LASST550000000000003
They dropped from 9.3 in 2010 to 3.8 before Trump was elected and were on the way up again in Jan after the sugar high from the tax cuts...
It's gone from an historic low of 3.1 % in early March to 14 1 % at end of April.
And your point is?
BTW 3.1% is not the historic low.
The economy is moving along the same trend that the Obama administration put it on after the the 2008 crash. There is no appreciable difference in the economic gains to the folks you speak of ... it's just their guys are in power now and claiming that the economy is great again. They just feel better about it because President Trump and the Republicans are telling them so. When the Obama administration was producing similar gains .. their mantra was woe is us; the economy is bad and tea party supped it up.
Quote from: Rudi on May 25, 2020, 09:39:59 PM
Quote from: RadioGAAGAA on May 25, 2020, 06:54:44 PM
Quote from: Rudi on May 25, 2020, 04:37:58 PM
Quote from: RadioGAAGAA on May 25, 2020, 04:19:16 PM
Do you think that said states started doing better in 2018 off the election of Trump in 2016?
I do, I'm talking about middle America doing better, places like New Richmond Wi, Huntsville Al etc. Wisconsin unemployment fell from 9.8 to 3.4%. Industry is booming, consequently peoples expectations are better. Don't get me wrong he's a horror show of a man, but his adminstration makes more of an interest in looking after middle America than let say Hilary would.
Right.
Now what do you think the upward inertia of a $20T/year economy is?
Do you actually think its measured in months or years?
Years to answer your specific question, not related to the point I was making.
So you think Trump, who arrived into the White House Jan 2017 and first got policies into play middle of 2017 had the results of that bearing fruit in 2018?
As to trying to dismiss it off the point you were making, no, you are completely off base. It is very central to the misguided point you are trying to make.
Recent developments in HK will accelerate a bit more of a public relations strain.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-52829176