Ulster Senior football championship 2024

[greatpoint]

Any of you see Declan Bogues iinterview on OTB?

McGuinness still holds a grudge with him and wouldn't speak to journalists at the Ulster launch unless he left.

12 years ago and still holding a grudge he doesnt sway from his principles McGuinness.

That's ridiculous. All he did was interview a guy and write a book. McGuinness would want to wise up, its bad enough he will be remembered as the guy who destroyed football for a decade but does he want to be remembered as a bitter dick too?

Most people (who don't exclusively breath through their mouth) would probably explain to you that McGuinness didn't actually force the rest of the counties to play in any particular way, that was completely up to them.

I'd say you exclusively breath through your mouth.

Did this sound better in your head?

[tiempo]

Any of you see Declan Bogues iinterview on OTB?

McGuinness still holds a grudge with him and wouldn't speak to journalists at the Ulster launch unless he left.

12 years ago and still holding a grudge he doesnt sway from his principles McGuinness.

That's ridiculous. All he did was interview a guy and write a book. McGuinness would want to wise up, its bad enough he will be remembered as the guy who destroyed football for a decade but does he want to be remembered as a bitter dick too?

'Duty of care' Jim - what a f**king pedant

[yellowcard]

He completely revolutionised tactics in gaelic football and had the tactical wherewithal and strength of personality to set a team up ultra defensively by playing zonal at the back. He didn't care one bit what anybody thought of him and probably still doesn't as it brought him an AI title that they would not have won if playing conventionally. The criticism only bolstered him and created a siege mentality that he seems to need. It was complete outside the box thinking at the time and very gutsy but don't pretend that it didn't set gaelic football back as a spectacle and which has never really recovered since then.

I don't think it was his aim to be ultra defensive because of some form of idealism, it was just that did whatever he thought was required to give them the best possible chance at winning. 

[SouthOfThe Bann]

He completely revolutionised tactics in gaelic football and had the tactical wherewithal and strength of personality to set a team up ultra defensively by playing zonal at the back. He didn't care one bit what anybody thought of him and probably still doesn't as it brought him an AI title that they would not have won if playing conventionally. The criticism only bolstered him and created a siege mentality that he seems to need. It was complete outside the box thinking at the time and very gutsy but don't pretend that it didn't set gaelic football back as a spectacle and which has never really recovered since then.

I don't think it was his aim to be ultra defensive because of some form of idealism, it was just that did whatever he thought was required to give them the best possible chance at winning. 

Managers do whatever they have to do to win.

Look at Ancelotti last night; they sat back in the lowest of low blocks played on the break and looked to frustrate City and took their chances on a penalty shootout.

Should we Chastise Ancellotti in the same fashion?

[yellowcard]

He completely revolutionised tactics in gaelic football and had the tactical wherewithal and strength of personality to set a team up ultra defensively by playing zonal at the back. He didn't care one bit what anybody thought of him and probably still doesn't as it brought him an AI title that they would not have won if playing conventionally. The criticism only bolstered him and created a siege mentality that he seems to need. It was complete outside the box thinking at the time and very gutsy but don't pretend that it didn't set gaelic football back as a spectacle and which has never really recovered since then.

I don't think it was his aim to be ultra defensive because of some form of idealism, it was just that did whatever he thought was required to give them the best possible chance at winning. 

Managers do whatever they have to do to win.

Look at Ancelotti last night; they sat back in the lowest of low blocks played on the break and looked to frustrate City and took their chances on a penalty shootout.

Should we Chastise Ancellotti in the same fashion?

I'm not chastising him at all, he just done what he felt he had to do to win. A managers job is to devise a system of play that gets the best out of the players which he has at his disposal. McGuinness achieved that in his first spell but he will struggle to do it this time around since any tactical advantage will be greatly reduced due to the emphasis now put on data and analytics.

I wouldn't blame him for the state of the gaelic football today but its fairly clear 13 years later that he set the wheels in motion for the spectacle we now have today.   

[93-DY-SAM]

He completely revolutionised tactics in gaelic football and had the tactical wherewithal and strength of personality to set a team up ultra defensively by playing zonal at the back. He didn't care one bit what anybody thought of him and probably still doesn't as it brought him an AI title that they would not have won if playing conventionally. The criticism only bolstered him and created a siege mentality that he seems to need. It was complete outside the box thinking at the time and very gutsy but don't pretend that it didn't set gaelic football back as a spectacle and which has never really recovered since then.

I don't think it was his aim to be ultra defensive because of some form of idealism, it was just that did whatever he thought was required to give them the best possible chance at winning. 

Managers do whatever they have to do to win.

Look at Ancelotti last night; they sat back in the lowest of low blocks played on the break and looked to frustrate City and took their chances on a penalty shootout.

Should we Chastise Ancellotti in the same fashion?

Ah FFS, don't mention penalties again. Tones head will explode.

[Wildweasel74]

Hear City looking a replay with Madrid as penalties don't count lol

[tonto1888]

Hear City looking a replay with Madrid as penalties don't count lol

theyre saying they didnt actually lose

[Wildweasel74]

See Gough ref for Saturday, was he not off the pace abit on the original ref fitness test or was that Coldrick.? Didn't think he kept up well in the Roscommon game in the league, and that wasn't a high paced game.

[93-DY-SAM]

See Gough ref for Saturday, was he not off the pace abit on the original ref fitness test or was that Coldrick.? Didn't think he kept up well in the Roscommon game in the league, and that wasn't a high paced game.

Yup, he was one of inter country refs from a panel of 42 who failed fitness tests earlier in the year.

[Armagh18]

See Gough ref for Saturday, was he not off the pace abit on the original ref fitness test or was that Coldrick.? Didn't think he kept up well in the Roscommon game in the league, and that wasn't a high paced game.

Yup, he was one of inter country refs from a panel of 42 who failed fitness tests earlier in the year.

Hopefully he's stayed off the pork pies since then!

[Itchy]

It's gets worse for Tyrone as it now transpires that in the history of Ulster GAA, Tyrone have NEVER beaten Cavan in Breffni Park.

Can't see the record being broken this weekend as Tyrone misery continues.

[Truthsayer]

Omens are okay... Tyrone won 2001 All Ireland minor final in Breffini Park beating Dublin in a replay... Joe McMahon was playing and on backroom team now so knows the ground well... h'up
https://m.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/terrific-tyrone-make-no-mistake/26069581.html

[Itchy]

Omens are okay... Tyrone won 2001 All Ireland minor final in Breffini Park beating Dublin in a replay... Joe McMahon was playing and on backroom team now so knows the ground well... h'up
https://m.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/terrific-tyrone-make-no-mistake/26069581.html

That doesn't count.

[Truthsayer]

Omens are okay... Tyrone won 2001 All Ireland minor final in Breffini Park beating Dublin in a replay... Joe McMahon was playing and on backroom team now so knows the ground well... h'up
https://m.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/terrific-tyrone-make-no-mistake/26069581.html

That doesn't count.

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