All Stars 2022

[marty34]

If they are deemed in the best 15 players in the country....

So somebody from Clare should get an All-Star in football?

Or Cork etc. They all got as far as Armagh.

[5times5times]

If they are deemed in the best 15 players in the country....

So somebody from Clare should get an All-Star in football?

Or Cork etc. They all got as far as Armagh.

Yeah but unlike Cork & Clare, Armagh aren't sh1t and didnt get easy passages to the QF!

[seafoid]

The other 3 qfs were shite. Armagh-Galway was compelling. Loads of media attention. Armagh in the Q4 were probably better than Derry in the semi...

[Maroon Manc]

Zero chance of O'Neill getting an All Star.

McKaigue nailed on to get one and deservedly so, just feel like their achievements this year deserve another one but not sure thats going too happen. Dublin getting a couple of All Stars would be ridiculous considering they got beat in their only proper game.

[imtommygunn]

If they are deemed in the best 15 players in the country....

So somebody from Clare should get an All-Star in football?

Or Cork etc. They all got as far as Armagh.

Not should - could.

They just didn't have anyone good enough this year.

If Gary Brennan was about this year then maybe.

[marty34]

If they are deemed in the best 15 players in the country....

So somebody from Clare should get an All-Star in football?

Or Cork etc. They all got as far as Armagh.

Yeah but unlike Cork & Clare, Armagh aren't sh1t and didnt get easy passages to the QF!

Armagh, like Clare and Cork etc. were dumped out at the quarter-final stage. End of.

They don't sit down and judge who got an easier route to the quarter-finals.

I'd say most people would say Rafferty had a better championship than O'Neill.

[Ed Ricketts]

Zero chance of O'Neill getting an All Star.

Well that's just not correct.

He probably has somewhere between a 25%-50% chance of getting one. A lot will depend on the performances of 3 or 4 rivals in the final. The higher scoring the final becomes the lower his chances get.

Debatable whether he deserves one. On scoring alone, probably not. But O'Neill isn't really just a forward - he's a midfielder, playmaker, and FF all rolled into one. Maybe this adaptability counts against him - it's difficult to pigeon hole him. But he also has a pretty high profile, which is handy when looking an All Star.

[seafoid]

There are never 15 nailed-on all-Stars. They always horsetrade over the last few.

Since 2010 there have been an average of 4.6 Allstars awarded to non-finalists. The lowest was 2 in 2017 and
the highest was 7 in 2010.

[J70]

If they are deemed in the best 15 players in the country....

So somebody from Clare should get an All-Star in football?

Or Cork etc. They all got as far as Armagh.

Yeah but unlike Cork & Clare, Armagh aren't sh1t and didnt get easy passages to the QF!

Armagh, like Clare and Cork etc. were dumped out at the quarter-final stage. End of.

They don't sit down and judge who got an easier route to the quarter-finals.

I'd say most people would say Rafferty had a better championship than O'Neill.

Karl Lacey got two of his four All Stars in years when Donegal went out at the quarter final on the back of top performances against good opposition all the way through the championship. Both those years ('06 and '09) we lost to Cork in the quarters, but even in the 2009 one when we were hammered out the gate, he gave a tour de force at corner back. Maybe not a typical example, as before he was moved up the field under McGuinness, Lacey was fairly peerless as a corner back with the exception of maybe Keith Higgins.

Murphy got young player of the year in 2009 off a quarter final exit campaign.

[imtommygunn]

If you're good enough up to QF and get knocked out no reason why not an all star.

On the flip side too if you get to quarters and hammered in semis then you can play yourself out of one. Probably happened a bit on saturday. Walsh would have been a cert too up until Armagh and has , currently, played himself out of one.

[J70]

If you're good enough up to QF and get knocked out no reason why not an all star.

On the flip side too if you get to quarters and hammered in semis then you can play yourself out of one. Probably happened a bit on saturday. Walsh would have been a cert too up until Armagh and has , currently, played himself out of one.

Disagree. He hit those frees for Galway when it mattered against Derry and he can still make it.

Starring role in a Galway win in the final and he'll have done enough to bag one.

Not saying that's likely. Just that the door isn't shut.

[marty34]

There are never 15 nailed-on all-Stars. They always horsetrade over the last few.

Since 2010 there have been an average of 4.6 Allstars awarded to non-finalists. The lowest was 2 in 2017 and
the highest was 7 in 2010.

Do you know how many went to non finalists and non semi-finalists Seafoid?

[armaghniac]

If they are deemed in the best 15 players in the country....

So somebody from Clare should get an All-Star in football?

Or Cork etc. They all got as far as Armagh.

Yeah but unlike Cork & Clare, Armagh aren't sh1t and didnt get easy passages to the QF!

Armagh, like Clare and Cork etc. were dumped out at the quarter-final stage. End of.

They don't sit down and judge who got an easier route to the quarter-finals.

I'd say most people would say Rafferty had a better championship than O'Neill.

It perfectly legitimate to judge a players performance in games where he is against other good players and is well marked etc. This can happen in quarter final just as easily as a semi-final.

[Rossfan]

It can.... but the chances of anyone other than the last 4 getting one is extremely slim.

[seafoid]

There are never 15 nailed-on all-Stars. They always horsetrade over the last few.

Since 2010 there have been an average of 4.6 Allstars awarded to non-finalists. The lowest was 2 in 2017 and
the highest was 7 in 2010.

Do you know how many went to non finalists and non semi-finalists Seafoid?

I will have a go tomorrow. It seems to be a function of the final.  There were 4 in  2010