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Everbody have their opinion, but to me Mayo was the 2nd best team to Dublin over the 2013-18 period. Kerry played Dublin in one of the worst finals ever, and tried to keep the score down scoring only 8pts.

Agreed... Manning18, hope you're better craic on a night out 

1-10 to  1-01 at half time to Derry

If they don't win by 20pts plus this place could turn nasty 🤭

McErlain should be sacked.

Only 17 in it at the end, really disrespectful the last years players who I think would have won by 18 at least. Mc Erlain out.

Mackers is hanging on by his fingertips, he'll know he's drinking in the last chance saloon, hope he can turn it around

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/creqz7gn3e1o

Talk about throwing money down the drain.

The Airport in Derry clearly not able to wipe its face yet Council and Stormount seem to take turns in writing the cheques.

Great news, so so handy

[Top Secret]

Had it tough last few years.

I remember seeing Top Secret in 1984 and almost getting sick in the cinema with the laughter. Airplane/Naked Gun humour. Which I love.

Feck Top Gun shite.

RIP

Top Secret one of the most criminally underated comedy spoofs(unknown maybe a better description). Still regularly quoted when a few of us are together.

RIP Val

Agreed, what a show! "I know a little German..."

[What was offered with the season ticket was the guaranteed right to a ticket.]

David McKeown, you've explained the situation very well and remained calm in doing so.
You don't necessarily approve of the legal action but accept their right to do so and understand the two very straightforward arguments in their favour.
I'm sure you've felt like screaming into a pillow during your postings.

As it stands, no-one has actually missed out until Wednesday's sale comes and goes but let's say the "Ticket Gate 8" are successful whether via court or quiet settlement, then what? Surely it will open it up to other aggrieved patrons who actually do end up missing out. Of course, many will refuse to take legal action regardless, myself included, and I would encourage against it but again the right to do so is acknowledged.

Just a word on the narky BS by some posters on here towards collective Armagh fans. Just like you within your county, we express many different views, opinions and attitudes across a multitude of topics worthy of discussing on here or elsewhere. Posting negativity about a comment from one or 2 people along the lines of "Armagh fans are the worst" is such cheap nonsense. So easy to respond with "Tyrone fans" this or "Donegal fans" that if one balloon pipes in with a bad take. Insert any county name here that you wish and the derogatory term works but is still totally baseless.

Buckfast Brigade and the likes. I would say its been 20 years since my one and half bottle of buckfast :-)
Am I this Brigade lol?

Only thing I'd say is. What was offered with the season ticket was the guaranteed right to a ticket. The argument will be there that there is some value to that guarantee that was wrongly advertised.

Even if the 8 (and let's remember that's all I know about from one source. It's unlikely but there could be others)get a ticket in the first come first served procedure on Wednesday there has still been a loss of value (will be the argument) for which some form of compensation should be offered.

I've put up the small print on this twice already....tickets not guaranteed

Yes they are not guaranteed if one of two criteria are met. Neither are met in this instance.

Are you saying the GAA should not provide tickets to CB volunteers, players and sponsors and there will be enough room for all season ticket holders (who let's face it, a big % of these season ticket holders will be Johnny-come-latelys) , or what hasn't been met criteria wise?

Im saying the terms and conditions (which is actually slightly different to what you have quoted) guaranteed a right to buy a ticket unless one of two criteria were met.  One either the number of season ticket holders exceeded the capacity of the ground (it doesn't) or venue restrictions reduce the capacity to below the number of season ticket holders (again it didn't).  I am making no comment on who is more deserving than others of tickets I am simply pointing out that the T's and C's do not protect the association.  They are clearly in breach of contract. They have prioritised other contractual obligations.

For reference the relevant terms are:

In the event that the number of Season Ticket holders exceeds stadium capacity or venue restrictions the GAA offers no guarantee of the availability of seats or entry to that fixture.

In the event that a stadiums stand capacity is limited the GAA offers no guarantee of the availability of seats. Season Ticket holders may be allocated tickets in a different area in this event.

In the event of safety or capacity concerns the GAA reserves the right to re-locate GAA Season Ticket holders on or before match day without any prior notice to the GAA Season Ticket holder.

As they should, remaining capacity = capacity for season ticket holders / paying punters

Whether they should or shouldn't is a completely different debate.  It's not a defence in contract law to say we aren't going to honour our contractual obligations to a because we would rather honour our obligations to b.

If you do that you are still in breach of contract.

What contracts would be in place for say CB members and players? None I'd say. Who ultimately decides what the capacity is for a given match?

By definition capacity is the maximum something can hold. Giving tickets to CB members and players which again I have no issue with doesn't reduce capacity. It also doesn't act as a defence if the association chooses to use the available capacity for other groups no matter how admirable that decision may be.

This will be my last post as I'm boring myself nevermind others, and I'm not trying to be difficult, honestly...i know what capacity is, but the wording below from the terms and conditions

In the event that the number of Season Ticket holders exceeds stadium capacity or venue restrictions the GAA offers no guarantee of the availability of seats or entry to that fixture.

On a given day, for a certain match if the Ulster Council (who are putting the game on and who are wholly in control of how many can enter the turnstiles I assume) surely define what restrictions are in place ie reduced capacity because or a, y and z... Is this not their call?

[What was offered with the season ticket was the guaranteed right to a ticket.]

David McKeown, you've explained the situation very well and remained calm in doing so.
You don't necessarily approve of the legal action but accept their right to do so and understand the two very straightforward arguments in their favour.
I'm sure you've felt like screaming into a pillow during your postings.

As it stands, no-one has actually missed out until Wednesday's sale comes and goes but let's say the "Ticket Gate 8" are successful whether via court or quiet settlement, then what? Surely it will open it up to other aggrieved patrons who actually do end up missing out. Of course, many will refuse to take legal action regardless, myself included, and I would encourage against it but again the right to do so is acknowledged.

Just a word on the narky BS by some posters on here towards collective Armagh fans. Just like you within your county, we express many different views, opinions and attitudes across a multitude of topics worthy of discussing on here or elsewhere. Posting negativity about a comment from one or 2 people along the lines of "Armagh fans are the worst" is such cheap nonsense. So easy to respond with "Tyrone fans" this or "Donegal fans" that if one balloon pipes in with a bad take. Insert any county name here that you wish and the derogatory term works but is still totally baseless.

Buckfast Brigade and the likes. I would say its been 20 years since my one and half bottle of buckfast :-)
Am I this Brigade lol?

Only thing I'd say is. What was offered with the season ticket was the guaranteed right to a ticket. The argument will be there that there is some value to that guarantee that was wrongly advertised.

Even if the 8 (and let's remember that's all I know about from one source. It's unlikely but there could be others)get a ticket in the first come first served procedure on Wednesday there has still been a loss of value (will be the argument) for which some form of compensation should be offered.

I've put up the small print on this twice already....tickets not guaranteed

Yes they are not guaranteed if one of two criteria are met. Neither are met in this instance.

Are you saying the GAA should not provide tickets to CB volunteers, players and sponsors and there will be enough room for all season ticket holders (who let's face it, a big % of these season ticket holders will be Johnny-come-latelys) , or what hasn't been met criteria wise?

Im saying the terms and conditions (which is actually slightly different to what you have quoted) guaranteed a right to buy a ticket unless one of two criteria were met.  One either the number of season ticket holders exceeded the capacity of the ground (it doesn't) or venue restrictions reduce the capacity to below the number of season ticket holders (again it didn't).  I am making no comment on who is more deserving than others of tickets I am simply pointing out that the T's and C's do not protect the association.  They are clearly in breach of contract. They have prioritised other contractual obligations.

For reference the relevant terms are:

In the event that the number of Season Ticket holders exceeds stadium capacity or venue restrictions the GAA offers no guarantee of the availability of seats or entry to that fixture.

In the event that a stadiums stand capacity is limited the GAA offers no guarantee of the availability of seats. Season Ticket holders may be allocated tickets in a different area in this event.

In the event of safety or capacity concerns the GAA reserves the right to re-locate GAA Season Ticket holders on or before match day without any prior notice to the GAA Season Ticket holder.

As they should, remaining capacity = capacity for season ticket holders / paying punters

Whether they should or shouldn't is a completely different debate.  It's not a defence in contract law to say we aren't going to honour our contractual obligations to a because we would rather honour our obligations to b.

If you do that you are still in breach of contract.

What contracts would be in place for say CB members and players? None I'd say. Who ultimately decides what the capacity is for a given match?

[What was offered with the season ticket was the guaranteed right to a ticket.]

David McKeown, you've explained the situation very well and remained calm in doing so.
You don't necessarily approve of the legal action but accept their right to do so and understand the two very straightforward arguments in their favour.
I'm sure you've felt like screaming into a pillow during your postings.

As it stands, no-one has actually missed out until Wednesday's sale comes and goes but let's say the "Ticket Gate 8" are successful whether via court or quiet settlement, then what? Surely it will open it up to other aggrieved patrons who actually do end up missing out. Of course, many will refuse to take legal action regardless, myself included, and I would encourage against it but again the right to do so is acknowledged.

Just a word on the narky BS by some posters on here towards collective Armagh fans. Just like you within your county, we express many different views, opinions and attitudes across a multitude of topics worthy of discussing on here or elsewhere. Posting negativity about a comment from one or 2 people along the lines of "Armagh fans are the worst" is such cheap nonsense. So easy to respond with "Tyrone fans" this or "Donegal fans" that if one balloon pipes in with a bad take. Insert any county name here that you wish and the derogatory term works but is still totally baseless.

Buckfast Brigade and the likes. I would say its been 20 years since my one and half bottle of buckfast :-)
Am I this Brigade lol?

Only thing I'd say is. What was offered with the season ticket was the guaranteed right to a ticket. The argument will be there that there is some value to that guarantee that was wrongly advertised.

Even if the 8 (and let's remember that's all I know about from one source. It's unlikely but there could be others)get a ticket in the first come first served procedure on Wednesday there has still been a loss of value (will be the argument) for which some form of compensation should be offered.

I've put up the small print on this twice already....tickets not guaranteed

Yes they are not guaranteed if one of two criteria are met. Neither are met in this instance.

Are you saying the GAA should not provide tickets to CB volunteers, players and sponsors and there will be enough room for all season ticket holders (who let's face it, a big % of these season ticket holders will be Johnny-come-latelys) , or what hasn't been met criteria wise?

Im saying the terms and conditions (which is actually slightly different to what you have quoted) guaranteed a right to buy a ticket unless one of two criteria were met.  One either the number of season ticket holders exceeded the capacity of the ground (it doesn't) or venue restrictions reduce the capacity to below the number of season ticket holders (again it didn't).  I am making no comment on who is more deserving than others of tickets I am simply pointing out that the T's and C's do not protect the association.  They are clearly in breach of contract. They have prioritised other contractual obligations.

For reference the relevant terms are:

In the event that the number of Season Ticket holders exceeds stadium capacity or venue restrictions the GAA offers no guarantee of the availability of seats or entry to that fixture.

In the event that a stadiums stand capacity is limited the GAA offers no guarantee of the availability of seats. Season Ticket holders may be allocated tickets in a different area in this event.

In the event of safety or capacity concerns the GAA reserves the right to re-locate GAA Season Ticket holders on or before match day without any prior notice to the GAA Season Ticket holder.

As they should, remaining capacity = capacity for season ticket holders / paying punters

[What was offered with the season ticket was the guaranteed right to a ticket.]

David McKeown, you've explained the situation very well and remained calm in doing so.
You don't necessarily approve of the legal action but accept their right to do so and understand the two very straightforward arguments in their favour.
I'm sure you've felt like screaming into a pillow during your postings.

As it stands, no-one has actually missed out until Wednesday's sale comes and goes but let's say the "Ticket Gate 8" are successful whether via court or quiet settlement, then what? Surely it will open it up to other aggrieved patrons who actually do end up missing out. Of course, many will refuse to take legal action regardless, myself included, and I would encourage against it but again the right to do so is acknowledged.

Just a word on the narky BS by some posters on here towards collective Armagh fans. Just like you within your county, we express many different views, opinions and attitudes across a multitude of topics worthy of discussing on here or elsewhere. Posting negativity about a comment from one or 2 people along the lines of "Armagh fans are the worst" is such cheap nonsense. So easy to respond with "Tyrone fans" this or "Donegal fans" that if one balloon pipes in with a bad take. Insert any county name here that you wish and the derogatory term works but is still totally baseless.

Buckfast Brigade and the likes. I would say its been 20 years since my one and half bottle of buckfast :-)
Am I this Brigade lol?

Only thing I'd say is. What was offered with the season ticket was the guaranteed right to a ticket. The argument will be there that there is some value to that guarantee that was wrongly advertised.

Even if the 8 (and let's remember that's all I know about from one source. It's unlikely but there could be others)get a ticket in the first come first served procedure on Wednesday there has still been a loss of value (will be the argument) for which some form of compensation should be offered.

I've put up the small print on this twice already....tickets not guaranteed

Yes they are not guaranteed if one of two criteria are met. Neither are met in this instance.

Are you saying the GAA should not provide tickets to CB volunteers, players and sponsors and there will be enough room for all season ticket holders (who let's face it, a big % of these season ticket holders will be Johnny-come-latelys) , or what hasn't been met criteria wise?

[Higgins (Dungiven)]

If they good enough to play a yr underage, against a very good Tyrone team that won the all-ireland, they good enough this Yr. Chambers and Higgins (Dungiven) in particular are strange omissions.

Is in the panel, could well be 1 of the few carrying injuries atm

[What was offered with the season ticket was the guaranteed right to a ticket.]

David McKeown, you've explained the situation very well and remained calm in doing so.
You don't necessarily approve of the legal action but accept their right to do so and understand the two very straightforward arguments in their favour.
I'm sure you've felt like screaming into a pillow during your postings.

As it stands, no-one has actually missed out until Wednesday's sale comes and goes but let's say the "Ticket Gate 8" are successful whether via court or quiet settlement, then what? Surely it will open it up to other aggrieved patrons who actually do end up missing out. Of course, many will refuse to take legal action regardless, myself included, and I would encourage against it but again the right to do so is acknowledged.

Just a word on the narky BS by some posters on here towards collective Armagh fans. Just like you within your county, we express many different views, opinions and attitudes across a multitude of topics worthy of discussing on here or elsewhere. Posting negativity about a comment from one or 2 people along the lines of "Armagh fans are the worst" is such cheap nonsense. So easy to respond with "Tyrone fans" this or "Donegal fans" that if one balloon pipes in with a bad take. Insert any county name here that you wish and the derogatory term works but is still totally baseless.

Buckfast Brigade and the likes. I would say its been 20 years since my one and half bottle of buckfast :-)
Am I this Brigade lol?

Only thing I'd say is. What was offered with the season ticket was the guaranteed right to a ticket. The argument will be there that there is some value to that guarantee that was wrongly advertised.

Even if the 8 (and let's remember that's all I know about from one source. It's unlikely but there could be others)get a ticket in the first come first served procedure on Wednesday there has still been a loss of value (will be the argument) for which some form of compensation should be offered.

I've put up the small print on this twice already....tickets not guaranteed

["Tyrone fans"]

David McKeown, you've explained the situation well and remained calm in doing so.
You don't necessarily approve of the legal action but accept their right to do so and understand the two very straightforward arguments in their favour.
I'm sure you've felt like screaming into a pillow during your postings.

As it stands, no-one has actually missed out until Wednesday's sale comes and goes but let's say the "Ticket Gate 8" are successful whether via court or quiet settlement, then what? Surely it will open it up to other aggrieved patrons who actually do end up missing out. Of course, many will refuse to take legal action regardless, myself included, and I would encourage against it but again the right to do so is acknowledged.

Just a word on the narky BS by some posters on here towards collective Armagh fans. Just like you within your county, we express many different views, opinions and attitudes across a multitude of topics worthy of discussing on here or elsewhere. Posting negativity about a comment from one or 2 people along the lines of "Armagh fans are the worst" is such cheap nonsense. So easy to respond with "Tyrone fans" this or "Donegal fans" that if one balloon pipes in with a bad take. Insert any county name here that you wish and the derogatory term works but is still totally baseless.

Buckfast Brigade and the likes. I would say its been 20 years since my one and only half bottle of buckfast :-)
Am I this Brigade lol?

What have those hoors been up to now?

It says a lot for the quality of the current Derry u20 substitutes' bench when the star of the  2023 All - Ireland winning minor final team, Conall Higgins of Magherafelt, did not make the match - day squad for the recent game against Armagh.

Mal mentioned a few key players missing due to injury during commentary on last week's game, Higgins maybe 1 of them? Can't mind

Mayo..god that has to be a bit dispiriting for them I'd say? Or was Sligo game in forefront of minds too much?

Mayo are no longer the circa 2011-2017 team. They fell into this final trying to avoid relegation. The focus is on the Championship in 7 days you'd imagine.

Was the team of 2011-2017 that hectic either.

They could compete with the dubs when no one else could but they had some questionable results in them years too.

Ah now, they took the best team of all to extra time and replays in their own patch. When nobody else was getting close. They'll always be put down for not sealing the deal, but you could not fault their determination in always coming back. Them Championships would have been a worse place without them.

 

No one's denying their determination and ability to run Dublin so close in 2016 and 2017.

But the reality is they weren't even good enough to win Connacht those years.

Yes! Leave them with absolutely no doubt.....

Unreal win. Bryant and O'Neill class forwards.

Enjoyed that, Offlay no shortage of fine players, play at a serious pace

Roscommon have London to be worried about. Going full guns for 70 minutes last night and then losing to the exiles wouldn't go down to well there.

And 10,000 mins to recover