Is the earlier Championship a success or failure?

[Dreadnought]

Joking about that, settle petal..

But the point remains, the hurling championship goes full tilt with meaningful games from the start (a few dead rubbers in the qualifiers though), the football one has too many one sided embarrassments which don't appeal to the fans of even the counties partaking let alone the neutrals but will improve come knock out time.

Ya fair enough, do agree though

[Redhand Santa]

It would be a right championship in football if you had the top 12 teams in it playing in 2 groups. Say:

Group 1
Dublin
Tyrone
Galway
Monaghan
Roscommon
Armagh

Group 2
Kerry
Mayo
Donegal
Kildare
Derry
Meath

With group winners straight into semi finals and second place into quarter finals and third place teams playing lower tier winners. 3 teams eliminated from each group. You'd have big games every week from the start of the year.

[Louther]

There is no one carrying the GAA message. It's left to those independent of the GAA to create whatever narrative they like and lot of the time it's negative - structures, second tier competitions, ref decisions, venues, ticket prices, fixtures etc.

All of these seem to be independent of each other. Even the Tailtean cup, and I got it wrong, was flagged in December fixture as to the structure. But it was December and no one really cared until it's happening now and suddenly it's an issue and no one even knows it's been the case since December - fair play Mod for spotting it.

What the whole GAA season lacks is certainty. From one fixture to another, prices, venues, TV, etc all seem to be chopping and changing. It's very hard to get involved in tbe championship season. The league competitions give the certainty. You can plan ahead, have a season ticket, have a trip away, know there is another day and lost of coverage with games thick and fast.

The championship is a bit all over the shop. One province will have different prices from another. Venues not fixed. Games could be at different times. You might lose and no one cares as there another more important game to come anyway. It's all a bit all over the shop.

Plus, who really promotes it? The GAA? RTE? media? Sponsors? It's not the counties involved as they won't talk to anyone. We might throw our eyes up at the premier league in England but they know how to market it and Sky drive that. Their round the clock coverage, social media channels of the clubs and players and media. It's hard to avoid. GAA you have to seek it out. And then it's often just rinse and repeat criticism of past events and negativity about future structures.

It's much easier to follow the club scene. You know what's happening, you actually met and get chatting to those involved at all levels in the club and you know when the fixture happening.

[naka]

The championship should be starting now

prefer the traditional championship final in september,
if we are changing should have been group of 4 s with teh last 16 playing in a knockout
would ahve given planty of games in decent weather

[Rossfan]

Agree with Louther re the poor PR, marketing by GAA of the flagship competitions especially the football.

[full moon]

Agree with Louther re the poor PR, marketing by GAA of the flagship competitions especially the football.

Be interesting to know what sort of marketing, social media etc department GAA have. They'd rather piss 20 million up the wall on some white elephant stadium that will never be filled. They don't even use their YouTube account to put up highlights or full match videos. No public available stats either, all kept in house.

Attendances are down and its mostly GAA HQs fault.

[thewobbler]

Agree with Louther re the poor PR, marketing by GAA of the flagship competitions especially the football.

Be interesting to know what sort of marketing, social media etc department GAA have. They'd rather piss 20 million up the wall on some white elephant stadium that will never be filled. They don't even use their YouTube account to put up highlights or full match videos. No public available stats either, all kept in house.

Attendances are down and its mostly GAA HQs fault.

Some of this might be a valid complaint.

But the single greatest waste of money the GAA could make in 2022 would be to allocate a marketing spend to the Tailteann Cup.

It is not possible to market a competition unless the competitors want to win it. Because when they don't, it descends into half arse me challenge matches between squads of players barely recognisable to their own supporters.

The GAA's marketing dept would be well within their rights to tell CCC to go f**k and themselves over this one. Rebadging the AI B championship does not work.

[Armagh18]

Agree with Louther re the poor PR, marketing by GAA of the flagship competitions especially the football.

Be interesting to know what sort of marketing, social media etc department GAA have. They'd rather piss 20 million up the wall on some white elephant stadium that will never be filled. They don't even use their YouTube account to put up highlights or full match videos. No public available stats either, all kept in house.

Attendances are down and its mostly GAA HQs fault.

Some of this might be a valid complaint.

But the single greatest waste of money the GAA could make in 2022 would be to allocate a marketing spend to the Tailteann Cup.

It is not possible to market a competition unless the competitors want to win it. Because when they don't, it descends into half arse me challenge matches between squads of players barely recognisable to their own supporters.

The GAA's marketing dept would be well within their rights to tell CCC to go f**k and themselves over this one. Rebadging the AI B championship does not work.

Sure we'll see who wants to be in it and who doesn't. You can guarantee Cavan will go all out to win it. I have no idea why the likes of Down think they are above this cup..

[thewobbler]

Agree with Louther re the poor PR, marketing by GAA of the flagship competitions especially the football.

Be interesting to know what sort of marketing, social media etc department GAA have. They'd rather piss 20 million up the wall on some white elephant stadium that will never be filled. They don't even use their YouTube account to put up highlights or full match videos. No public available stats either, all kept in house.

Attendances are down and its mostly GAA HQs fault.

Some of this might be a valid complaint.

But the single greatest waste of money the GAA could make in 2022 would be to allocate a marketing spend to the Tailteann Cup.

It is not possible to market a competition unless the competitors want to win it. Because when they don't, it descends into half arse me challenge matches between squads of players barely recognisable to their own supporters.

The GAA's marketing dept would be well within their rights to tell CCC to go f**k and themselves over this one. Rebadging the AI B championship does not work.

Sure we'll see who wants to be in it and who doesn't. You can guarantee Cavan will go all out to win it. I have no idea why the likes of Down think they are above this cup..

Listen, that's one thing you cannot guarantee.

[Dreadnought]

Sure we'll see who wants to be in it and who doesn't. You can guarantee Cavan will go all out to win it. I have no idea why the likes of Down think they are above this cup..

Don't think you can guarantee that at all going by some of the players. They might give it a go, but might not be full bore

[johnnycool]

Sure we'll see who wants to be in it and who doesn't. You can guarantee Cavan will go all out to win it. I have no idea why the likes of Down think they are above this cup..

Don't think you can guarantee that at all going by some of the players. They might give it a go, but might not be full bore

And a phonecall from America said send the lad over and the old fella said, sure it won't do any harm..

No one knows what teams will be at full tilt for this..

[Dreadnought]

Sure we'll see who wants to be in it and who doesn't. You can guarantee Cavan will go all out to win it. I have no idea why the likes of Down think they are above this cup..

Don't think you can guarantee that at all going by some of the players. They might give it a go, but might not be full bore

And a phonecall from America said send the lad over and the old fella said, sure it won't do any harm..

No one knows what teams will be at full tilt for this..

That too. Although they can't play over there until their county is out of Championship. So there is some bit of protection of the players to stop an exodus

[Farrandeelin]

Sure we'll see who wants to be in it and who doesn't. You can guarantee Cavan will go all out to win it. I have no idea why the likes of Down think they are above this cup..

Don't think you can guarantee that at all going by some of the players. They might give it a go, but might not be full bore

And a phonecall from America said send the lad over and the old fella said, sure it won't do any harm..

No one knows what teams will be at full tilt for this..

That too. Although they can't play over there until their county is out of Championship. So there is some bit of protection of the players to stop an exodus

Out of the championship and Tailteann Cup are different things.

[Rossfan]

Tailteann is classed as a Championship too.

[Dreadnought]

Out of the championship and Tailteann Cup are different things.

Classed as the same. Can't play until your counties inter county season is over, so includes Tailteann Cup