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Another sob story for Cavan.

Alot to admire about that crosserlough performance though.

Discipline questionable maybe but did they deserve 3 blacks and a red card?

Tyrone men have given them an edge pity they couldn't get it done.

No they didn't deserve that. What was second black for? The abuse the referee allowed against McVeety was shocking.

Yeah even the first black was harsh but I could imagine a case. 2nd was an absolute joke and not black. 3rd also seemed harsh and how Kilcoo escaped a black for similar incidents is a mystery.

The red was 2 yellows but I wonder did he even receive the first yellow as he seemed fairly bewildered?

Honestly it's hard to say Kilcoo deserved that, Crosserlough were unlucky but Kilcoo a bigger name and got the rub of green big time. They also dive a lot. Overall I'd say Kilcoo will need to improve to win Ulster but they're very difficult to play against.

I have my doubts if he got a yellow previously i don't recall him getting one.

There's a report out on the game in one of the papers and it confirms that it was an error and he received a second yellow and red despite never having a first yellow.

Sums up the refereeing.

The leagues changed last year, they didn't win promotion but due to leagues changing they benefited from it.

Try telling a Cavan man playing a higher league is beneficial...

Not much to cheer about in Monaghan if you've just signed up to troll about Cavan for so many posts.

Was a massive win for that Monaghan team today against Lisnaskea you'd have to wonder are they in the right division.

Another sob story for Cavan.

Alot to admire about that crosserlough performance though.

Discipline questionable maybe but did they deserve 3 blacks and a red card?

Tyrone men have given them an edge pity they couldn't get it done.

No they didn't deserve that. What was second black for? The abuse the referee allowed against McVeety was shocking.

Yeah even the first black was harsh but I could imagine a case. 2nd was an absolute joke and not black. 3rd also seemed harsh and how Kilcoo escaped a black for similar incidents is a mystery.

The red was 2 yellows but I wonder did he even receive the first yellow as he seemed fairly bewildered?

Honestly it's hard to say Kilcoo deserved that, Crosserlough were unlucky but Kilcoo a bigger name and got the rub of green big time. They also dive a lot. Overall I'd say Kilcoo will need to improve to win Ulster but they're very difficult to play against.

Forker probably correct there that the 4 points for a goal will result in more defensive stuff

Wait till a ref. moves a free 50meters in a game where it matters

I wouldn't like to be a ref with this new stuff, his whistle alone will piss off people

The idea only the captain can question or speak to the referee, which is just copying from rugby, is mad. Captains may be the other end of the field and the punishment is harsh.

He's been talking about players going for 2 pointers and it dropping short causing chaos inside, and it being a good thing. Then someone went for a shot a solid 5 or 6 points inside the arc and he was saying the same thing. It's just shite execution, Eammon.

Doesn't cause much chaos when ref gives a free out everytime

Looks like a very poor crowd for this first game today. It's on RTE news channel.

GAA could have surely done more to get people in the doors. Free attendance surely could have been done and a bit of advertising.

Exactly. They'll make nothing from it anyway. Have it free and send tickets to schools, refugee centres, hotels etc. Complete lack of imagination.

Yeah the lack of marketing or promotion is just sad at this stage.

Rugby literally sold out Croker the other week for a URC league match and we can't even get 10k in the doors at this. Doesn't even seem to be 5k even.

A very good team wil give some average teams an awful trimming next year.

The Tailteann was set up to address this problem.

It didn't really work if that's the case. And will likely get worse

I dunno if I can listen to that f**king whistle again actually it's horrible

Really emphasises how much frees and breaks in play there is. Not much different to NFL or rugby league

Looks like a very poor crowd for this first game today. It's on RTE news channel.

GAA could have surely done more to get people in the doors. Free attendance surely could have been done and a bit of advertising.

There is zero physicality or contact in football anymore and referees don't allow any unlike in Hurling where they can clatter into each other in contests for the sliotar.

When's the last time there was a few good shoulders in a football match? Basically extinct. Years ago I remember it was really prominent for defenders especially.

The new rules last night seemed to just make it easy to score and continue the basketball esque no contact rules. I'm not sure the new scoring helps that either and will likely end games as a contest in 10 minutes.

Would agree with Grimley and O'Neill there that there very minimal contact or tackling in that.

Seems like a bit of a nightmare for defenders and probably referees.

The whistle is painful.

Agree really annoying,I think it's like that in rugby league is it and whistle going every 5 seconds

It's because the refs micced up. No way that should stay in.

Think McHugh was right about the scoring system it's not good and many games may be over after 5 - 10 minutes

At least 5 or 6 occasions so far  where the 3v3 inside the 50  isn't happening

Apparently it's just inside the 65 so just the opposition half. I'd swear in the build it was said inside the opposition 45/50