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GAA Discussion / Re: Mayo v Dubs 2 July
July 03, 2023, 06:07:50 PM
Quote from: full moon on July 03, 2023, 02:49:26 PM
O'Shea being substituted was the wrong call in my view. He was one of Mayo's better players, won lots of ball. He's an easy scapegoat, lots of others offered nothing.

agree. couldn't understand that decision.
GAA Discussion / Re: Mayo v Dubs 2 July
July 02, 2023, 06:47:05 PM
mayo don't have the personnel. their midfield wiped again in croke park.
GAA Discussion / Re: Standard of Refs
July 02, 2023, 10:10:55 AM
the standard of refereeing is crap and i hate that it's nearly taboo to say it. yes, it's not an easy job and there are too many rules that are left up to vague interpretation hence the inconsistency, but there are also too many refs who judge fouls based on the context of the game rather than the incident itself, and thus end up having big influences on games. this thing of playing for last minute frees because it's known that the ref will give them to engineer a draw is nonsense. same with penalties. also the level of contact allowed seems to be getting less and less and players know it, hence all the diving. they know refs will blow it up if they go down, so every time they feel contact, they drop. refs need to be stronger and they need to stop involving themselves in the outcome of games. it's ridiculous.
said earlier in the week it was a game too soon for tyrone. they looked knackered. not remotely at the pitch.
GAA Discussion / Re: Mayo v Dubs 2 July
June 30, 2023, 09:27:06 AM
Quote from: highorlow on June 30, 2023, 07:37:22 AM
Con is injured I believe

he's named to start today
GAA Discussion / Re: Mayo v Dubs 2 July
June 29, 2023, 10:10:02 PM
who will pick up fenton and con, from a mayo perspective? there is a huge game in con this year imo, could be sunday.

likewise tho, could be a day for aidan o'shea can't think who dublin could put on him who would have the physicality? murchan on conroy i assume? he'll have the speed for him but there would be a height difference.
GAA Discussion / Re: Mayo v Dubs 2 July
June 27, 2023, 08:04:40 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on June 27, 2023, 11:39:11 AM
Quote from: statto on June 27, 2023, 10:07:48 AM
Quote from: larryin89 on June 27, 2023, 09:59:15 AM
Unfortunately I expect Dublin to easily account for our bruised and battered warriors . Last 20 mins of this game I really fear could be wild scoring as our bucks completely run out of gas . 

We won the league , had a very enjoyable win down in Killarney, knocked Galway out . Overall it's been a 7/10 year for their first year as a management team . Croker the weekend is truly bonus territory imo , the one week turnaround will be the killer for a team that has not looked to have great stamina all year anyway ie last periods of several games from the league right through the championship.

Larry was Ruane dropped or injured?  Would think he would need to match up against Fenton in the middle for this one.

He was dropped, and rightly so, he's been poor for two years bar a couple of games

have heard a lot of people expressing surprise at ruane not being selected. i do not rate him as a midfielder. tyrone ruthlessly exposed his shortcomings in that position in 2021 and every team in the country knows how to play him now. if he plays for mayo on sunday, gurenteed he will be a liability.
a game too soon for tyrone. they're only starting to scrape a bit of form together, i think they would have liked one more game to warm themselves up before facing kerry. if it was a semi and tyrone had won a game in croke park already this year, i would say it was 50/50, but as it stands, i think it's coming too soon for tyrone.
Quote from: seafoid on June 26, 2023, 08:36:55 PM

pure sensationalism. go look at any club match around the country and you'll see plenty like it. james o'donoghue had the best take on it today - if a top player can't take that bit of roughing up that they know they're going to get when they go into a game with a well-publicised injury, they might as well not be there. kelly and galway management made the decision to go ahead knowing full well what the story would be. it's not under 14s and this isn't kelly's first rodeo.
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on June 26, 2023, 07:28:28 PM
It's Sean Kelly's fault for being on the pitch in the first place alright, the only logical position.

i mean, yes? he chose to take the risk and he's no shrinking violet himself. stuff like this happens all the time in football. i have seen countless lads with bad shoulders and bad hips being absolutely nailed even before a ball is thrown in. happens all over the country. it's pure sensationalism to act like this incident is anything new, and kelly will know it well himself.
genuinely don't get the hand wringing about the kelly thing. how many times have we seen lads fresh back from injury and they're instantly getting lined up for huge hits. literally the dogs in the street know that players carrying injuries are targeted. it's absolutely nothing new and if kelly was really that bad, he shouldn't have been on the pitch and that's on himself and his management.
Quote from: From the Bunker on June 25, 2023, 06:27:19 PM
There is one thing you can't take for granted and that is building on a good previous year.
There is a lot of luck involved in getting to an AI final.
Galway have been as good, if not better than Mayo in their last two encounters.
But they have looked laboured and disjointed in trying to put Mayo to the sword.

Mayo are where they always end up, They know how to consistently get to these places.
But falter when the proper deal should be done.

Luck in needed in the quarter-final draw for Mayo progress further.

mayo were the better team in the league final, no doubt.
Quote from: Gael85 on June 25, 2023, 05:20:12 PM
Was Ruane carrying an injury? Will surely start the next day.

he hasn't had a great year to be honest so wouldn't be surprised if he was just dropped. he's a terrible fielder of a ball.
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 25, 2023, 12:15:05 PM
I wouldn't be so sure. Let's say Mayo win then they could beat Armagh. I don't think they will win though but if Galway win then if they get players back they could beat most teams. I certainly would have Galway favourites to beat Derry. (I think any of the ulster teams are pro a top eight but not necessarily four)

galway already carrying a couple of knocks and you can be sure the two teams will knock the shite out of each other again today and then go into next week's match trying to manage possibly sore bodies and psychological come down from a big game like this, while whoever is waiting will be well rested. i struggle to see either team get through next week's game tbh
Quote from: larryin89 on June 20, 2023, 02:54:49 PM
Quote from: statto on June 20, 2023, 02:49:57 PM
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on June 20, 2023, 01:09:57 PM
Both teams probably threw away any chance of getting to the AI final last Sunday given the road left to travel now, hard to know which was the worse butchering of the prime position each team was in to top their groups, Mayo's probably a more spectacular collapse but Galway's just as bad really given the context.

we got the worst team out of the hat anyway, Mayo are a really good team and Galway are in serious bother with the injury situation.
If Comer and Kelly are unavailable I don't see how Galway can get a result, they are just too important to the team, along with the underrated McHugh. If Comer plays last Sunday and I think we have the feet up this . Mayo's record in knock out matches between the two counties when it's do or die as well is formidable. Hopefully this match will see Galway making a real stand and not a 2019 like situation.
Regardless, the eternal question remains "will Galway bate Mayo?".

Wouldn't necessarily agree with this.  The winner of the game on Sunday will get good momentum for going into the quarter finals and while they will get a difficult game in quarters a win next weekend and I would expect last weekends results will be largely forgot about.  As things stand, the winner of the groups would like to avoid the winners of this one.

Not enough recovery time for Galway (assuming the favs win ) to get right for a qf against a top side . Galway had a very good chance of all Ireland glory this year but I'd be surprised if they followed through now simply because they didn't win their group .

the winner of the all ireland will come from the group of teams already through to the QF. it's the least risky route and the easiest route. no matter who wins today between galway or mayo, either will be beaten the following week.