NI Public Health Consultation Bill - Jul 2024

[David McKeown]

Obesity: Self inflected
autism: no single cause but yes there is a train of thought that exposure to pesticides can be one reason, age of parents when giving birth and genetic factors can come into play
adhd: Well parents can mainly take the blame for this one, what they consumed before and while pregnant
asthma: can be past down if parents have it, and people had asthma long before vaccines
diabetes: Generally self inflected
cardiovascular disease: can be mainly self inflected
dementia: mainly age related but certainly like all f these lifestyle choices don't help
Alzheimer's: mainly age related but certainly like all f these lifestyle choices don't help
Strokes: very preventable but some family history of it and Ethnicity can be a reason. but mainly poor life style choices, though her mum had one,  great lifestyle, healthy, so other than stress which she has, it was the main reason I feel for hers
Arthritis: can be just down to old age, self inflected through sports, injuries, wear and tear because of weight

There are plenty of other illnesses that can be prevented or certainly reduced, but having worked in a surgery for many years and seeing the types of people coming in, it would take some sea of change to reverse all of that and I think the horse has bolted, and if you have any sense start looking after yourself now.

On a good note I had a hearty farmer in with me earlier today, 76 years old still manning the farm from 5 in the morning till 6 at night, no medication, not much weight on him, couple of beers with dinner, glass of wine and bed! repeat 7 days a week lol!

As for the doctors, I wouldn't stick them on the gestopo list just yet, the system doesn't allow them to care after patients the way it was intended, its the system that's fucked, not the doctors

Dyslexia: Self inflected.

Ironically despite being heavily dyslexic I got this joke.

I'm more concerned about the autism and adhd theories and the over simplification and completely outdated view of both diabetes of the obesity issues. 

[Milltown Row2]

Obesity: Self inflected
autism: no single cause but yes there is a train of thought that exposure to pesticides can be one reason, age of parents when giving birth and genetic factors can come into play
adhd: Well parents can mainly take the blame for this one, what they consumed before and while pregnant
asthma: can be past down if parents have it, and people had asthma long before vaccines
diabetes: Generally self inflected
cardiovascular disease: can be mainly self inflected
dementia: mainly age related but certainly like all f these lifestyle choices don't help
Alzheimer's: mainly age related but certainly like all f these lifestyle choices don't help
Strokes: very preventable but some family history of it and Ethnicity can be a reason. but mainly poor life style choices, though her mum had one,  great lifestyle, healthy, so other than stress which she has, it was the main reason I feel for hers
Arthritis: can be just down to old age, self inflected through sports, injuries, wear and tear because of weight

There are plenty of other illnesses that can be prevented or certainly reduced, but having worked in a surgery for many years and seeing the types of people coming in, it would take some sea of change to reverse all of that and I think the horse has bolted, and if you have any sense start looking after yourself now.

On a good note I had a hearty farmer in with me earlier today, 76 years old still manning the farm from 5 in the morning till 6 at night, no medication, not much weight on him, couple of beers with dinner, glass of wine and bed! repeat 7 days a week lol!

As for the doctors, I wouldn't stick them on the gestopo list just yet, the system doesn't allow them to care after patients the way it was intended, its the system that's fucked, not the doctors

Dyslexia: Self inflected.

Ironically despite being heavily dyslexic I got this joke.

I'm more concerned about the autism and adhd theories and the over simplification and completely outdated view of both diabetes of the obesity issues. 

ADHD can be passed down, lots of views on this with parents and children having similar types of adhd, it's not always the typical stereotype though. Especially in women, alcohol and drug use also been linked to contribute towards this.

As for the Autism that's a view that's been held for a while. But as I said no cause can be totally singled out.

I think we all knew someone looking back that had adhd ( I know I had those traits as a kid) and autism but it wasn't spoken about. Now it gets ya dla so it helps to have it, I jest of course but social media the internet makes things more recognisable and it's discussed more.

[David McKeown]

Perhaps it was my misunderstanding of the original post but I thought you were suggesting that the reason for all these conditions were what you were suggesting. That's not been my experience. I don't want to discuss my family's situation on a public forum but from my own point of view my for example obesity is not entirely self inflicted. I suffer from a myriad of other health problems which can heighten likelihood of obesity.

Whilst there's no doubt some try to game the system with autism and adhd there are plenty who for example can't talk as a result and their parents were healthy normal aged adults with no history of similar conditions. I think it's highly insulting to use broad brush strokes to categorise those who are neuro diverse

[Last Man]

https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/diabetes#:~:text=Type%202%20diabetes%20is%20often,getting%20enough%20exercise%2C%20and%20genetics.

https://www.nhlbi.nih.gov/health/stroke/causes#:~:text=Ischemic%20and%20hemorrhagic%20strokes%20share,disease%2C%20and%20carotid%20artery%20disease.

What Causes Asthma?
Family history. If you have a parent with asthma, you are three to six times more likely to develop asthma than someone who does not have a parent with asthma.
Allergies. ...
Viral respiratory infections. ...
Occupational exposures. ...
Smoking. ...
Air Pollution. ...
Obesity.




I didn't randomly make it up,, there's other sites but I've not all night

If Darwinism is a thing it should eventually sort itself out then.
Don't let the the truth get in the way of a good story especially when your mortgage depends on it.

[Milltown Row2]

Perhaps it was my misunderstanding of the original post but I thought you were suggesting that the reason for all these conditions were what you were suggesting. That's not been my experience. I don't want to discuss my family's situation on a public forum but from my own point of view my for example obesity is not entirely self inflicted. I suffer from a myriad of other health problems which can heighten likelihood of obesity.

Whilst there's no doubt some try to game the system with autism and adhd there are plenty who for example can't talk as a result and their parents were healthy normal aged adults with no history of similar conditions. I think it's highly insulting to use broad brush strokes to categorise those who are neuro diverse

These are general broad based reasons, there will always be (and they are within those links) other reasons, it's not entirely specific to causes which are preventable but we certainly don't help ourselves.

As for adhd and autism, that's definitely in my family at different levels and dealing with that is not easy, people strive for reasons as to why, some conditions are easily explained some not so.

Can I be better with my choices? A 1000% I can, do I want to though lol?

 I try and strike a balance, unlike Last Man, Im not full on but after bumping into him last week he's looking good for an aul fart 

To summarise my posts here, there are plenty of things we can be doing to help us have a healthier life, but sure, there are some uncontrollable things which will happen.

My dad's family (all the brothers bar one) got cancer, my sister had it also, I certainly live a better life than my dad, but who knows? Maybe it's just there!