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Title: Garth Brooks and Croke Park : Boss to intervene?
Post by: armaghniac on January 20, 2014, 01:13:53 PM
"Before we go back on tour in the Fall of 2014, I want to challenge myself, the band, and crew.  In '97, we were lucky enough to play Croke Park, the stadium was under construction. 130,000+ of some of the greatest fans in the world. I was quoted then as saying 'When this stadium is finished, I would love to come back and try to fill it again...this time to the brink.'...and we're back to do just that.

http://www.aikenpromotions.com/component/content/article/1-latest-news/2122.html

Garth was followed a couple of years later by Armagh dominance of football, let's hope history repeats itself.




Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks Croke Park
Post by: OakleafCounty on January 20, 2014, 01:20:50 PM
One all Ireland is hardly dominance.
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks Croke Park
Post by: armaghniac on January 20, 2014, 01:52:52 PM

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One all Ireland is hardly dominance.

The begrudgers come out of the woodwork!
Next you'll be saying the Garth Brooks is not brilliant. 
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks Croke Park
Post by: aontroim abu on January 20, 2014, 02:11:42 PM
Have already tried to book a room for either night in the hope that I get a ticket - 4 hotels ive tried are already booked out!!!!
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks Croke Park
Post by: Cold tea on January 20, 2014, 02:25:04 PM
Have already tried to book a room for either night in the hope that I get a ticket - 4 hotels ive tried are already booked out!!!!

I tried as soon as One Direction tickets were announced and it was the same, I couldn't believe they were all booked and the dates just announced, there's probably some scam going on.
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks Croke Park
Post by: armaghniac on January 20, 2014, 02:36:05 PM
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Have already tried to book a room for either night in the hope that I get a ticket - 4 hotels ive tried are already booked out!!!!

It has long been stated that the Croke Park concert would be announced today. So travel agents etc book the rooms, even if they didn't yet know which type of fan they would be selling to.
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks Croke Park
Post by: aontroim abu on January 20, 2014, 02:37:52 PM
The Boss just phoned, from the time of the announcement until now, prices in Dublin hotels have increased dramatically, but also on some sites where they are saing 229 euro for te night, when you o to pay the rice has increased to 299!! Now I know simple economics and supply/demand, but surely this is a rip-off!!
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks Croke Park
Post by: Bingo on January 20, 2014, 02:44:45 PM
This will be the type of concert that the hotels etc will lap up. Its already the busy summer season, so rooms will be in demand anyways. The demographic for the concert will be middle aged working people who will largely travel to Dublin for it. The hotels will be rubbing the hands and will sky rocket prices now to catch the likes of you out. Travel companies and overseas visitors will also be all over this as its his first date as such.

In general hotel prices in Dublin aren't much value as I found recently. They'll milk this up.
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks Croke Park
Post by: aontroim abu on January 20, 2014, 02:48:47 PM
This will be the type of concert that the hotels etc will lap up. Its already the busy summer season, so rooms will be in demand anyways. The demographic for the concert will be middle aged working people who will largely travel to Dublin for it. The hotels will be rubbing the hands and will sky rocket prices now to catch the likes of you out. Travel companies and overseas visitors will also be all over this as its his first date as such.

In general hotel prices in Dublin aren't much value as I found recently. They'll milk this up.


You're 100% right. I've had several conversations over the years about how Dublin is pricing itself out of the market, this is yet another instance where they are going to get away with it
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks Croke Park
Post by: Keepthefaith93 on January 20, 2014, 03:00:43 PM
Anyone going to see Gareth Brooks should be charged 5000 euro per night.
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks Croke Park
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on January 20, 2014, 03:07:51 PM
I always preferred Chris Gaines.


Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks Croke Park
Post by: Shamrock Shore on January 20, 2014, 03:10:20 PM
Nathan Carter will have to be added to the bill to entice Nordies down.

Personally I would refuse free tickets but, hey, that's just me (and millions of others)
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks Croke Park
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on January 20, 2014, 03:12:44 PM
Just realised I have a wedding to go to in Dublin that weekend. FFS.
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks Croke Park
Post by: Nally Stand on January 20, 2014, 03:14:46 PM
The Boss just phoned, from the time of the announcement until now, prices in Dublin hotels have increased dramatically, but also on some sites where they are saing 229 euro for te night, when you o to pay the rice has increased to 299!! Now I know simple economics and supply/demand, but surely this is a rip-off!!


Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks Croke Park
Post by: donegal lad on January 20, 2014, 03:30:30 PM
As soon as I got confirmation on the dates I was on booking.com. Majority of hotels in the city were mad money already but I booked Bewleys hotel at the airport for both nights and was  €178 per night for 5 of us. 10 minutes later the same rooms were costing €328
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks Croke Park
Post by: Hardy on January 20, 2014, 03:46:05 PM
Amazing! Economic theory holds as the price of hotel rooms in Dublin refuses to contravene the laws of supply and demand.

Personally, as W.C. Fields would say were he alive, I think it would be morally wrong to miss the opportunity of separating Garth Brooks fans from as much of their money as possible.
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks Croke Park
Post by: optimus cheese on January 20, 2014, 04:41:45 PM
So in the middle of the Championship, Croke Park PLC are going to allow a bunch of slack-jawed yokels trudge all over the pitch in their cowboy boots or whatever these rednecks dress up in for their barn dances? Can they not take their tractors and and bugger off somewhere else for this?
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks Croke Park
Post by: Mayo4Sam on January 20, 2014, 04:46:32 PM
So in the middle of the Championship, Croke Park PLC are going to allow a bunch of slack-jawed yokels trudge all over the pitch in their cowboy boots or whatever these rednecks dress up in for their barn dances? Can they not take their tractors and and bugger off somewhere else for this?
I doubt Armagh will make Croke park at the end of July this year
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks Croke Park
Post by: optimus cheese on January 20, 2014, 04:49:34 PM
So in the middle of the Championship, Croke Park PLC are going to allow a bunch of slack-jawed yokels trudge all over the pitch in their cowboy boots or whatever these rednecks dress up in for their barn dances? Can they not take their tractors and and bugger off somewhere else for this?
I doubt Armagh will make Croke park at the end of July this year

Me neither, but that's a debate for another day
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks Croke Park
Post by: Nally Stand on January 20, 2014, 05:05:24 PM
Amazing! Economic theory holds as the price of hotel rooms in Dublin refuses to contravene the laws of supply and demand.

"Supply and demand" can only justify so much of an opportunistic price rise before it becomes an opportunistic rip-off.
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks Croke Park
Post by: Bingo on January 20, 2014, 05:13:20 PM
Nally you genuinely think this is a Dublin issue and doesn't happen in Belfast, London, Rio, Sydney, Tokyo, Moscow, Monaco, New York "insert any place in the world that sees a spike in demand for rooms due to a popular event or occasion".

 :o
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks Croke Park
Post by: deiseach on January 20, 2014, 05:16:17 PM
So in the middle of the Championship, Croke Park PLC are going to allow a bunch of slack-jawed yokels trudge all over the pitch in their cowboy boots or whatever these rednecks dress up in for their barn dances? Can they not take their tractors and and bugger off somewhere else for this?
I doubt Armagh will make Croke park at the end of July this year

Me neither, but that's a debate for another day

But he meant . . . oh, never mind.
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks Croke Park
Post by: seafoid on January 20, 2014, 05:24:08 PM
As soon as I got confirmation on the dates I was on booking.com. Majority of hotels in the city were mad money already but I booked Bewleys hotel at the airport for both nights and was  €178 per night for 5 of us. 10 minutes later the same rooms were costing €328
Basically Garth Brooks fans are subsidising hotel punters who want to book at other times of the year.
I think it's fabliss.  Let them at it. Get him over for 20 concerts and bring Billy Ray Cyrus and his daughter over as well for another meitheal of events.     
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks Croke Park
Post by: thebigfella on January 20, 2014, 05:45:22 PM
Do you reckon the Aviva could be used for GAA? Should lock the doors and concrete over Croke Park when it's on.
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks Croke Park
Post by: armaghniac on January 20, 2014, 06:15:18 PM
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"Supply and demand" can only justify so much of an opportunistic price rise before it becomes an opportunistic rip-off.

If you don't ration scarce resources by price, then you are simply facilitating those with nothing better to do that sit with booking sites open.
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks Croke Park
Post by: laoislad on January 20, 2014, 06:16:46 PM


Personally I would refuse free tickets but, hey, that's just me (and millions of others)
Nonsense.
I actually think of you as one of my friends in low places SS.. ;)
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks Croke Park
Post by: Maguire01 on January 20, 2014, 07:17:24 PM
Amazing! Economic theory holds as the price of hotel rooms in Dublin refuses to contravene the laws of supply and demand.

"Supply and demand" can only justify so much of an opportunistic price rise before it becomes an opportunistic rip-off.
And when that time arrives, people won't pay those prices and the hotels will either lower them or have vacancies.
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks Croke Park
Post by: BennyCake on January 20, 2014, 07:33:02 PM
Maybe the whole of Tyrone could do a house swap with Dubliners that weekend? That would solve the hotel issue. I know if I was living in Dublin, I'd do anything not to be there when Brooks is in town.
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks Croke Park
Post by: Tony Baloney on January 20, 2014, 07:49:00 PM
They should have a twincam convention the same weekend and be done with it.
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks Croke Park
Post by: laoislad on January 20, 2014, 08:00:12 PM
I'd give some of ye a room but to be honest I don't like Nordies.
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks Croke Park
Post by: ONeill on January 20, 2014, 08:40:05 PM
Best Year Ever.
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks Croke Park
Post by: seafoid on January 20, 2014, 09:39:25 PM
I'd give some of ye a room but to be honest I don't like Nordies.

What is your problem with an tuaisceart? Is it something to do with being from Queen's County ? 
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks Croke Park
Post by: laoislad on January 20, 2014, 10:20:14 PM

Legend



Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks Croke Park
Post by: BennyCake on January 20, 2014, 10:46:12 PM

Legend





That's great, LL. Now, about seafoid's question...
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks Croke Park
Post by: seafoid on January 20, 2014, 10:58:10 PM

Legend





That's great, LL. Now, about seafoid's question...
Viva an Tuaisceart

There was a mural on the Falls Road about an ancient poem in old Irish concerning a bird on Belfast Lough
and I'll take that before Liverpool FC every single time 
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks Croke Park
Post by: All of a Sludden on January 20, 2014, 11:03:47 PM
He has always been a shite football pundit on the BBC.
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks Croke Park
Post by: seafoid on January 20, 2014, 11:10:46 PM
He has always been a shite football pundit on the BBC.
He was good when he played for Tottenham 
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks Croke Park
Post by: red hander on January 20, 2014, 11:22:34 PM
Haven't seen a redneck like that at Croke Park since the last time the inbreds played at headquarters
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks Croke Park
Post by: laoislad on January 20, 2014, 11:33:41 PM
American Honky-Tonk Bar Association.

What a tune.
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks Croke Park
Post by: armaghniac on January 20, 2014, 11:38:25 PM
Brooks will put on a top performance in front of a full house of fans in Croke Park, something Laois have never done.
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks Croke Park
Post by: laoislad on January 20, 2014, 11:46:01 PM

Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks Croke Park
Post by: orangeman on January 21, 2014, 12:59:59 AM
How much are the tickets or do they wait to assess demand first ?

All joking aside, that's exactly what Ticketmaster did last week. They had an limited number of early bird tickets on sale and they assessed demand and 10 minutes later they added a fiver a ticket on to the price.

Feckers.
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks Croke Park
Post by: supersarsfields on January 21, 2014, 08:49:48 AM
How much are the tickets or do they wait to assess demand first ?

All joking aside, that's exactly what Ticketmaster did last week. They had an limited number of early bird tickets on sale and they assessed demand and 10 minutes later they added a fiver a ticket on to the price.

Feckers.

I've been quoted 132 Euro for a pair. But haven't that confirmed yet. Seems reasonable if that's the case.
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks Croke Park
Post by: aontroim abu on January 21, 2014, 09:03:21 AM
How much are the tickets or do they wait to assess demand first ?

All joking aside, that's exactly what Ticketmaster did last week. They had an limited number of early bird tickets on sale and they assessed demand and 10 minutes later they added a fiver a ticket on to the price.

Feckers.

I've been quoted 132 Euro for a pair. But haven't that confirmed yet. Seems reasonable if that's the case.

Tickets are 65 Euro each, confirmed.

Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks Croke Park
Post by: deiseach on January 21, 2014, 09:08:43 AM
€65? As things go, that's very good value.
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks Croke Park
Post by: balladmaker on January 21, 2014, 09:25:35 AM
10 cheaper than One Direction ... if that adds anything to the pricing debate :-)
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks Croke Park
Post by: Shamrock Shore on January 21, 2014, 10:04:21 AM
What did slip under the radar was the fact that Status Quo play The Point /O2 in April.

Now I am no fan but this is their last tour (before their next last tour) ever and I betcha most of ye know at least 10 Quo songs.
So I may head, for the craic like.
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks Croke Park
Post by: the waffler on January 21, 2014, 10:17:07 AM
City west £62 couldn't beat it think only upgrade rooms left bout 80
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks Croke Park
Post by: supersarsfields on January 21, 2014, 10:19:13 AM
Friend booked us a room in Dublin (Have to find out the hotel) for 80 Euro.
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks Croke Park
Post by: deiseach on January 21, 2014, 10:30:55 AM
What did slip under the radar was the fact that Status Quo play The Point /O2 in April.

Now I am no fan but this is their last tour (before their next last tour) ever and I betcha most of ye know at least 10 Quo songs.
So I may head, for the craic like.

Wasn't it Stravinksy who said that Status Quo don't have five hundred songs, they have one song they repeated five hundred times?
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks Croke Park
Post by: seafoid on January 21, 2014, 12:32:51 PM
What did slip under the radar was the fact that Status Quo play The Point /O2 in April.

Now I am no fan but this is their last tour (before their next last tour) ever and I betcha most of ye know at least 10 Quo songs.
So I may head, for the craic like.
Whatever you want, Shamrock. You pay your money you make your choice.
Whatever Longford win, whatever they lose.
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks Croke Park
Post by: Bord na Mona man on January 21, 2014, 01:19:11 PM
I'd say the hoteliers didn't even get a chance to think about putting up prices.
The software behind these booking systems and online sites detect surges of interest in certain dates and jacks up the price automatically.

Garth Brooks, I didn't realise he was still alive. Down around home a lot of people referred to him and Gareth Brooooks.
As much as I tried to avoid his music in the 90s, I was surrounded by people who not only liked him but sang his songs and quoted the lyrics non-stop. Now we've just gone and pulled the stake out of that particular heart!
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks Croke Park
Post by: giveherlong on January 21, 2014, 02:54:06 PM
Any hotels or b&bs still a available for fair price, can't get anything at all
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks Croke Park
Post by: bigfrank on January 21, 2014, 03:17:57 PM
I looked yesterday on trivago doing a general search and was still loads,ok maybe not right beside croke park but was plenty
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks Croke Park
Post by: Lar Naparka on January 21, 2014, 03:27:58 PM
Any hotels or b&bs still a available for fair price, can't get anything at all
Depends on where you are coming from.  The White House is right behind Dublin Airport and charges €35 per person, per night. Buses from Ashbourne to the city centre pass by the place every half hour or so and travel up Whitworth Road and onto D’Olier Street so you’d have about a ten minute walk to the stadium.
You could try www.whitehose.ie and see if there are any rooms available.
I know they won’t up the price for the weekend.
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks Croke Park
Post by: smort on January 21, 2014, 03:32:28 PM
Do you own, or work for, the whitehouse lar naparka?

If not, they should employ you as marketing manager  8)
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks Croke Park
Post by: Lar Naparka on January 21, 2014, 03:57:31 PM
Do you own, or work for, the whitehouse lar naparka?

If not, they should employ you as marketing manager  8)
Neither, me oul’ mate! ;D
 But I do play pitch & putt there from time to time.
I have stayed there once or twice and it’s an okay sort of place. Nothing special but it’s only a 20 minute trip into town and the bus passes close to Croke Park.
I don’t know (or care) if there are vacant rooms or not but I know they don’t hike prices for special events so anyone stuck for a bed cold do worse than give the place a ring and check it out.
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks Croke Park
Post by: 5 Sams on January 21, 2014, 04:19:43 PM
Do you own, or work for, the whitehouse lar naparka?

If not, they should employ you as marketing manager   8)

Maybe not.... if he can't get the website address right!! :P
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks Croke Park
Post by: balladmaker on January 21, 2014, 05:00:33 PM
Looking at Garth's physical condition compared to the last time he played Croke Park, I don't think he'll be doing much running about this time round  ::)
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks Croke Park
Post by: Feckitt on January 21, 2014, 05:30:24 PM

Viva an Tuaisceart

There was a mural on the Falls Road about an ancient poem in old Irish concerning a bird on Belfast Lough
and I'll take that before Liverpool FC every single time
[/quote]

 :D :D :D
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks Croke Park
Post by: laoislad on January 21, 2014, 06:45:54 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtNDJEFiIVc
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks Croke Park
Post by: ziggysego on January 21, 2014, 07:20:57 PM
I was in the front row to see Garth Brooks in the Kings Hall Belfast back in 1997. Jeezs, it was some night's craic. Trisha Yearwood was supporting him that year too, little did we know then what was going on backstage. She blew me a kiss from the stage ;)
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks Croke Park
Post by: seafoid on January 21, 2014, 08:10:11 PM
I was watching a few Elvis videos the other day. What a legend. Amazing voice and musical brain. It is a pity he never made it to Parky Croky. Brooks wouldn't be fit to polish his shoes.
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks Croke Park
Post by: ONeill on January 21, 2014, 09:44:02 PM
Family holiday or Brooks?

The children have enough.
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks Croke Park
Post by: BennyCake on January 21, 2014, 10:09:28 PM
There's going to be some craic if Tyrone have a championship game on the same day as the Brooks concert.
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks Croke Park
Post by: 5 Sams on January 21, 2014, 11:18:10 PM
The poor wee check shirt makers out in the Far East are flat out knocking out the Tyrone uniforms for Primark as we speak :-\
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks Croke Park
Post by: Tony Baloney on January 21, 2014, 11:28:03 PM
http://www.hoganstand.com/forum/MessagePage.aspx?TopicID=12551
 (http://www.hoganstand.com/forum/MessagePage.aspx?TopicID=12551)

52 and 60
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks Croke Park
Post by: ziggysego on January 22, 2014, 12:51:08 AM
There's going to be some craic if Tyrone have a championship game on the same day as the Brooks concert.

The Ulster Final is two weeks previous and the Quarter-Finals start the following week.

I guess there's the possibility of the backdoor.

Come on Tyrone for Ulster!!
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks Croke Park
Post by: deiseach on January 22, 2014, 09:07:24 AM
I was watching a few Elvis videos the other day. What a legend. Amazing voice and musical brain. It is a pity he never made it to Parky Croky. Brooks wouldn't be fit to polish his shoes.

I don't know who says that Brooks is the superior of Elvis. Maybe those who like their music live rather than, well, not live.
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks Croke Park
Post by: balladmaker on January 22, 2014, 10:27:31 AM
I prefer listening to country music when it is being performed by an American with an American accent, rather than an Irish man singing in an American accent ... just putting that out there.
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks Croke Park
Post by: seafoid on January 22, 2014, 08:50:03 PM
Family holiday or Brooks?

The children have enough.
Do you want to cut down on beer or the kids' new gear
It's a big decision in a town called malice.
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks Croke Park
Post by: seafoid on January 22, 2014, 08:52:30 PM
I prefer listening to country music when it is being performed by an American with an American accent, rather than an Irish man singing in an American accent ... just putting that out there.
even worse is Irish singers with American sounding trade names
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks Croke Park
Post by: armaghniac on January 22, 2014, 09:07:59 PM
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even worse is Irish singers with American sounding trade names

The Indians were good.
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks Croke Park
Post by: ONeill on January 22, 2014, 09:24:41 PM
Family holiday or Brooks?

The children have enough.
Do you want to cut down on beer or the kids' new gear
It's a big decision in a town called malice.

Best Brooks lyric?

Sure is dark out
Not the slighest spark out
Pardon my clackin' jaws
Uh, who there
Who is it
Uh, stoppin' for a visit
'Zat you, Santa Claus
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks Croke Park
Post by: seafoid on January 22, 2014, 10:14:12 PM
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even worse is Irish singers with American sounding trade names

The Indians were good.
They were pure cowboys
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks Croke Park
Post by: deiseach on January 23, 2014, 09:12:04 AM
Family holiday or Brooks?

The children have enough.
Do you want to cut down on beer or the kids' new gear
It's a big decision in a town called malice.

You won't catch Garth going underground. Still, that's entertainment.
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks Croke Park
Post by: Under Lights on January 23, 2014, 10:13:08 AM
The woman has said she would like to go to this. Balls. Gonna have to try and take tickets now. How nightmarish is it going to be to get them?
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks Croke Park
Post by: deiseach on January 23, 2014, 10:17:05 AM
The woman has said she would like to go to this. Balls. Gonna have to try and take tickets now. How nightmarish is it going to be to get them?

Seriously? Can she not get them herself?
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks Croke Park
Post by: Under Lights on January 23, 2014, 10:52:41 AM
She works in a school and wouldn't be able to get online for 9 to try and get them on ticketmaster. Sigh.
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks Croke Park
Post by: deiseach on January 23, 2014, 10:53:28 AM
She works in a school and wouldn't be able to get online for 9 to try and get them on ticketmaster. Sigh.

Ah right. Fair enough. I've been that soldier.
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks Croke Park
Post by: Tony Baloney on January 23, 2014, 01:32:32 PM
She works in a school and wouldn't be able to get online for 9 to try and get them on ticketmaster. Sigh.
It seemingly doesn't stop Tyrone Tribulations finest.
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks Croke Park
Post by: Bingo on January 23, 2014, 01:35:22 PM
Well, I'll say it. I'll be there, not out of any great desire or love for the mans music but by all accounts he puts on a very entertaining live show and will be a good day out with alot of people from home heading to it.

Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks Croke Park
Post by: AZOffaly on January 23, 2014, 01:37:47 PM
Will there be a pile of tickets, or will these be hen's teeth? I'd say the last concert I was at was Brendan Shine at the Oyster Festival in Clarinbridge, or the Sawdoctors in the Dubliner Pub in Phoenix.

I'd like to surprise herself for this though....
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks Croke Park
Post by: Tony Baloney on January 23, 2014, 01:49:11 PM
Well, I'll say it. I'll be there, not out of any great desire or love for the mans music but by all accounts he puts on a very entertaining live show and will be a good day out with alot of people from home heading to it.
You have taken the first step. Very brave.
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks Croke Park
Post by: AZOffaly on January 23, 2014, 01:52:21 PM
Sure lookit hardstation, it takes all sorts. And if it keeps herself happy, what harm?
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks Croke Park
Post by: AZOffaly on January 23, 2014, 01:58:44 PM
Lookit? I always say lookit. Sure Lookit.
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks Croke Park
Post by: Bingo on January 23, 2014, 02:05:06 PM
Well, I'll say it. I'll be there, not out of any great desire or love for the mans music but by all accounts he puts on a very entertaining live show and will be a good day out with alot of people from home heading to it.
You have taken the first step. Very brave.

At least I "stepped" up, an awful of boys in here blaming the "woman" and I'd say for half them the only woman they see is the mammy  ;D
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks Croke Park
Post by: Brick Tamlin on January 23, 2014, 02:08:09 PM
It would definitely be a brownie point earner that's what im thinking.
Throw her a few tickets by surprise and save the brownies (for god knows Il need them)

Off topic but years ago when Westlife were big news I queued up outside Carlin records in Newry in the pishin rain one Saturday morning from the early hours for their tickets.
Same thoughts in mind, surprise herself and bank the brownies. Me standing like a clampet, stickin out like a sore thumb, queuing up with a squad of teenyboppers and weemen.
Sure she was delighted with the tickets and luckily enough when the gig came round I couldn't go with her as I was just after a knee op. Talk about stroke of luck.
Needless to say I was devastated I couldn't go.
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks Croke Park
Post by: Billys Boots on January 23, 2014, 03:10:47 PM
Lookit? I always say lookit. Sure Lookit.

He does, you know.  :P
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks Croke Park
Post by: 5 Sams on January 23, 2014, 03:27:12 PM
It would definitely be a brownie point earner that's what im thinking.
Throw her a few tickets by surprise and save the brownies (for god knows Il need them)

Off topic but years ago when Westlife were big news I queued up outside Carlin records in Newry in the pishin rain one Saturday morning from the early hours for their tickets.
Same thoughts in mind, surprise herself and bank the brownies. Me standing like a clampet, stickin out like a sore thumb, queuing up with a squad of teenyboppers and weemen.
Sure she was delighted with the tickets and luckily enough when the gig came round I couldn't go with her as I was just after a knee op. Talk about stroke of luck.
Needless to say I was devastated I couldn't go.


You're still bound to have a few points left after that episode Brick!!! Above and beyond the call of duty!!!
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks Croke Park
Post by: Brick Tamlin on January 23, 2014, 04:04:10 PM
Don't talk.
I know rightly she would probably love to go see Garth Crooks too but may be a stretch too far for me.
Im too tight.
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks Croke Park
Post by: deiseach on January 23, 2014, 04:14:55 PM
Don't talk.
I know rightly she would probably love to go see Garth Crooks too but may be a stretch too far for me.
Im too tight.

Ah, brings back memories of Fantasy Football League. "I'm the intelligent footballer, relatively speaking of course."
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks Croke Park
Post by: Mayo4Sam on January 23, 2014, 04:50:15 PM
Id consider going to this, like someone said he puts on a good show
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks Croke Park
Post by: laoislad on January 23, 2014, 06:53:20 PM
Well, I'll say it. I'll be there, not out of any great desire or love for the mans music but by all accounts he puts on a very entertaining live show and will be a good day out with alot of people from home heading to it.
You have taken the first step. Very brave.

At least I "stepped" up, an awful of boys in here blaming the "woman" and I'd say for half them the only woman they see is the mammy  ;D
I've the opposite problem. She wouldn't be caught dead at it. I however would love to go.
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks Croke Park
Post by: Bingo on January 23, 2014, 06:55:58 PM
Well, I'll say it. I'll be there, not out of any great desire or love for the mans music but by all accounts he puts on a very entertaining live show and will be a good day out with alot of people from home heading to it.
You have taken the first step. Very brave.

At least I "stepped" up, an awful of boys in here blaming the "woman" and I'd say for half them the only woman they see is the mammy  ;D
I've the opposite problem. She wouldn't be caught dead at it. I however would love to go.

Sure she a Dub, too cool for country!
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on January 25, 2014, 05:40:41 AM
If you like your country - give this fella a blast

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vNBXZA3MA4&list=PLnXUkssEUTNcPeMMvJt39bjZ9gL5R-nO0
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: donegal lad on January 25, 2014, 01:45:43 PM
This is a must for anyone planning on travelling to the concerts in July. Get it now for a limit time only
http://teespring.com/garthbrooksirishcomebackspecia (http://teespring.com/garthbrooksirishcomebackspecia)
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: Maguire01 on January 27, 2014, 10:06:38 PM
Queuing for tickets in Dungannon since Saturday - tickets not out until Thursday!
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: thebigfella on January 27, 2014, 10:16:40 PM
Queuing for tickets in Dungannon since Saturday - tickets not out until Thursday!

Good to see the dole can stretch to keeping them in tickets
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: balladmaker on January 28, 2014, 04:44:54 PM
Quote
Queuing for tickets in Dungannon since Saturday - tickets not out until Thursday!

Queue outside Skelton Travel in Lurgan since yesterday!
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: ziggysego on January 28, 2014, 04:56:25 PM
I'm really excited now. The heart is racing and I can't stop thinking about Garth Garth Garth. Lost all focus at work and I'm busy YouTubing Brook songs.

I better get tickets!!!!
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: laoislad on January 28, 2014, 06:27:49 PM
Quote
Queuing for tickets in Dungannon since Saturday - tickets not out until Thursday!

Queue outside Skelton Travel in Lurgan since yesterday!
They won't get tickets if tomorrow never comes.
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: Shamrock Shore on January 28, 2014, 07:13:17 PM
The queue has started in Longford  :-\


Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: ONeill on January 28, 2014, 07:16:49 PM
I'm really excited now. The heart is racing and I can't stop thinking about Garth Garth Garth. Lost all focus at work and I'm busy YouTubing Brook songs.

I better get tickets!!!!

I feel your pain, Zig. Haven't slept in days. It might kill us.
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: Tony Baloney on January 28, 2014, 07:44:49 PM
Hopefull the touts buy them. Might see if can pick some up online and flog them on at a tidy premium for Bank of Baloney. I will give O'Neill and Ziggy a gaaboard discount of 100 each or 200 for the pair. Can't say fairer than that.
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: Under Lights on January 29, 2014, 09:48:50 PM
Some queues in Cookstown today. Shocking the amount of people sitting out. Wonder how many tickets these outlets have. I know someone who is around number 40 in the queue. Everyone ahead of her can get 6 tickets each. Good luck to her.
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: bigfrank on January 29, 2014, 10:43:34 PM
Is ticketmaster.ie and the various shops the only place they can be got 2moro morning??
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: Maguire01 on January 29, 2014, 10:58:21 PM
Is ticketmaster.ie and the various shops the only place they can be got 2moro morning??
EBay as well.
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: ziggysego on January 29, 2014, 10:58:50 PM
Going to bed now, praying that in 10 hours, I will be in procession of Garth Brooks - Croke Park July 2014 tickets.

Goodnight all.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hKqZjgIfxe0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hKqZjgIfxe0)
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: Tony Baloney on January 29, 2014, 11:00:13 PM
Is ticketmaster.ie and the various shops the only place they can be got 2moro morning??
EBay as well.
That's where mine will be at 9.02.
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: bigfrank on January 29, 2014, 11:01:59 PM
Your hopeful of getting a few then,just seen that ticketmaster.ie dont accept maestro cards hence why i asked was there anywhere else online they could be bought,not ebay or gumtree at 9.05am lol
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: lawnseed on January 29, 2014, 11:10:32 PM
proud owner of ten tickets if all goes to plan  8)
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: mayogodhelpus@gmail.com on January 30, 2014, 12:08:32 AM
proud owner of ten tickets if all goes to plan  8)

I presume you won't be going, being in Dublin and all.
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: NAG1 on January 30, 2014, 01:15:37 PM
proud owner of ten tickets if all goes to plan  8)

For the next day or so until the ebay sale closes  ;)
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: Bensars on January 30, 2014, 01:35:55 PM
This is  a prime example of greed. People wading in to get 6 tickets each. Come june when done deal, gumtree and ebay are awash with them there will be a glut of people taking face value or close to it in order to recoup their outlay.

Thats not taking into consideration a 4th date already pencilled in for Croke park, or the Belfast Gig 
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: GJL on January 30, 2014, 01:42:22 PM
Pair of tickets on Ebay currently for £600. Mental.
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: BennyCake on January 30, 2014, 01:49:39 PM
Four gigs?! It'll be a November All Ireland final then.
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: Mayo4Sam on January 30, 2014, 01:59:40 PM
Any spares?
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on January 30, 2014, 03:13:46 PM
This is  a prime example of greed. People wading in to get 6 tickets each. Come june when done deal, gumtree and ebay are awash with them there will be a glut of people taking face value or close to it in order to recoup their outlay.

Thats not taking into consideration a 4th date already pencilled in for Croke park, or the Belfast Gig

Is this your first time buying tickets for something?
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: Bensars on January 30, 2014, 03:29:45 PM
No No, but the system promotes a demand that deprives some users from access.  Today so far i have heard of one individual who has 18 tickest, and people bragging about how much money they will make. The system promotes scalping ( although in a amateur format).

I have co workers who missed out, and they believe they will have to pay through the nose. My point was that i don't believe it to be the case. If one concert only, then maybe, but not with three and possibly more concerts. In my opinion there will be quite a few available at face value or close to it. ( On done deal at the minute, that is the case)

Same for All ireland tickets etc.  i despise those that are put up for auction straight away, while those genuinely looking miss out.
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: armaghniac on January 30, 2014, 03:31:43 PM
This is  a prime example of greed. People wading in to get 6 tickets each. Come june when done deal, gumtree and ebay are awash with them there will be a glut of people taking face value or close to it in order to recoup their outlay.

Thats not taking into consideration a 4th date already pencilled in for Croke park, or the Belfast Gig

Is this your first time buying tickets for something?

That was Bensars, not Tony F., he probably has bought and paid for the odd ticket at some stage.  :P
This is a lot of tickets in total, whatever way you look at it. Brooks is popular, but I don't know anyone going.
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: BennyCake on January 30, 2014, 03:34:40 PM
I'll be entering any competitions for Brooks tickets, and if I win, I'll be putting them on eBay or gumtree. Some crazy redneck hillbilly will end up paying for my summer holiday!
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: tyrone girl on January 30, 2014, 03:56:18 PM
got mine happy days though it was touch and go for a while. whats section 702 like for concert anyone know?
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: smort on January 30, 2014, 03:59:20 PM
got mine happy days though it was touch and go for a while. whats section 702 like for concert anyone know?

http://www.crokepark.ie/About/Seating-Plans
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: tyrone girl on January 30, 2014, 04:01:50 PM
I know the seating plan but have never sat upper at matches r anything and wondered had anyone experience of it for concerts
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on January 30, 2014, 04:04:05 PM
it depends where the stage is I guess - if it's at the Hill End - it mightn't be the best view
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: Bensars on January 30, 2014, 04:06:45 PM
I know the seating plan but have never sat upper at matches r anything and wondered had anyone experience of it for concerts

Cant get much better. great view of stage. I was directly oppisite a few years ago for U2, great view.  Those in the canal may bring binoculars
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: tyrone girl on January 30, 2014, 04:07:31 PM
presume it is hill end I was thinking decent view as maybe looking down on stage. they are row d so not too far back
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: smort on January 30, 2014, 04:08:37 PM
Sorry tyronegirl, I haven't been to a gig in croker, hard to know what stage-side view would be like. But sure is there a bad seat at a Garth Brooks concert? :P
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: tyrone girl on January 30, 2014, 04:08:44 PM
I know the seating plan but have never sat upper at matches r anything and wondered had anyone experience of it for concerts

Cant get much better. great view of stage. I was directly oppisite a few years ago for U2, great view.  Those in the canal may bring binoculars

brilliant happy days! close to front of it too so should be good
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: Brick Tamlin on January 30, 2014, 04:15:57 PM
These gigs will be mucksavage-mania.
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: Bingo on January 30, 2014, 04:19:32 PM
Totally agree with Bensars, there will be plenty of tickets freed up come the time. Its sad that people will be exposed now to touts but I'd question anyone who pays over the odds. In even a few weeks, you'll notice tickets been offered.

Come July will be all sorts of reasons why tickets become available - holidays, weddings, football, work, christenings, deaths etc etc. Its always the way.
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: Brick Tamlin on January 30, 2014, 04:27:49 PM
I think you underestimate the power of Garth and the passion of mucksavagery.
Holidays, weddings, football, work, christenings, deaths etc etc will all be rearranged and rescheduled round this momentous event...(Yes even deaths may be affected by it too)
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: ballinaman on January 30, 2014, 04:29:38 PM
Totally agree with Bensars, there will be plenty of tickets freed up come the time. Its sad that people will be exposed now to touts but I'd question anyone who pays over the odds. In even a few weeks, you'll notice tickets been offered.

Come July will be all sorts of reasons why tickets become available - holidays, weddings, football, work, christenings, deaths etc etc. Its always the way.
I'm hoping for the full 270,000
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: screenexile on January 30, 2014, 04:36:02 PM
Totally agree with Bensars, there will be plenty of tickets freed up come the time. Its sad that people will be exposed now to touts but I'd question anyone who pays over the odds. In even a few weeks, you'll notice tickets been offered.

Come July will be all sorts of reasons why tickets become available - holidays, weddings, football, work, christenings, deaths etc etc. Its always the way.
I'm hoping for the full 270,000

That's good... it'll take out the population of Tyrone and 100,000 other dickheads!!
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: southdown on January 30, 2014, 04:36:21 PM
These gigs will be mucksavage-mania.

Agreed, orange tan, magners, loafers, boot cut jeans, coppers after, checked shirts, wild bit of craic, hi.
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: Jonah on January 30, 2014, 05:00:22 PM
Totally agree with Bensars, there will be plenty of tickets freed up come the time. Its sad that people will be exposed now to touts but I'd question anyone who pays over the odds. In even a few weeks, you'll notice tickets been offered.

Come July will be all sorts of reasons why tickets become available - holidays, weddings, football, work, christenings, deaths etc etc. Its always the way.
I'm hoping for the full 270,000

That's good... it'll take out the population of Tyrone and 100,000 other d**kheads!!
People are d**kheads because they like a different type of music to you?  You have issues.
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: thebigfella on January 30, 2014, 06:01:25 PM
Totally agree with Bensars, there will be plenty of tickets freed up come the time. Its sad that people will be exposed now to touts but I'd question anyone who pays over the odds. In even a few weeks, you'll notice tickets been offered.

Come July will be all sorts of reasons why tickets become available - holidays, weddings, football, work, christenings, deaths etc etc. Its always the way.
I'm hoping for the full 270,000

That's good... it'll take out the population of Tyrone and 100,000 other d**kheads!!
People are d**kheads because they like a different type of music to youhave sh1tty taste in music and easily parted with cash?  You have issues.

Fixed that
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: Jonah on January 30, 2014, 06:50:00 PM
Totally agree with Bensars, there will be plenty of tickets freed up come the time. Its sad that people will be exposed now to touts but I'd question anyone who pays over the odds. In even a few weeks, you'll notice tickets been offered.

Come July will be all sorts of reasons why tickets become available - holidays, weddings, football, work, christenings, deaths etc etc. Its always the way.
I'm hoping for the full 270,000

That's good... it'll take out the population of Tyrone and 100,000 other d**kheads!!
People are d**kheads because they like a different type of music to youhave sh1tty taste in music and easily parted with cash?  You have issues.

Fixed that
I didn't ask you to fix it.

What is a shite taste in music anyway? We all like different types so who decides what is shite and isn't.
I hate music snobs.Just to be clear btw I don't like Garth Brooks or country music in general and wouldn't go to his concert but I'm sure there are plenty of concerts I would go to that someone else wouldn't go to.
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: Cold tea on January 30, 2014, 06:53:49 PM
Don't worry about bigfella he probably has 3 or 4 corporate boxes in Croke Park and is just pissed of he has to go see Mr Brooks to get his money's worth.   ;D
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: thebigfella on January 30, 2014, 07:02:29 PM
Totally agree with Bensars, there will be plenty of tickets freed up come the time. Its sad that people will be exposed now to touts but I'd question anyone who pays over the odds. In even a few weeks, you'll notice tickets been offered.

Come July will be all sorts of reasons why tickets become available - holidays, weddings, football, work, christenings, deaths etc etc. Its always the way.
I'm hoping for the full 270,000

That's good... it'll take out the population of Tyrone and 100,000 other d**kheads!!
People are d**kheads because they like a different type of music to youhave sh1tty taste in music and easily parted with cash?  You have issues.

Fixed that
I didn't ask you to fix it.

What is a shite taste in music anyway? We all like different types so who decides what is shite and isn't.
I hate music snobs.Just to be clear btw I don't like Garth Brooks or country music in general and wouldn't go to his concert but I'm sure there are plenty of concerts I would go to that someone else wouldn't go to.

Bon Jovi
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: Captain Obvious on January 30, 2014, 07:09:37 PM
Totally agree with Bensars, there will be plenty of tickets freed up come the time. Its sad that people will be exposed now to touts but I'd question anyone who pays over the odds. In even a few weeks, you'll notice tickets been offered.

Come July will be all sorts of reasons why tickets become available - holidays, weddings, football, work, christenings, deaths etc etc. Its always the way.
I'm hoping for the full 270,000

That's good... it'll take out the population of Tyrone and 100,000 other d**kheads!!
People are d**kheads because they like a different type of music to youhave sh1tty taste in music and easily parted with cash?  You have issues.

Fixed that
I didn't ask you to fix it.

What is a shite taste in music anyway? We all like different types so who decides what is shite and isn't.
I hate music snobs.Just to be clear btw I don't like Garth Brooks or country music in general and wouldn't go to his concert but I'm sure there are plenty of concerts I would go to that someone else wouldn't go to.

Bon Jovi

I would have said the manufactured music instead of Bon Jovi or Garth Brooks.
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: Jonah on January 30, 2014, 07:30:26 PM
Totally agree with Bensars, there will be plenty of tickets freed up come the time. Its sad that people will be exposed now to touts but I'd question anyone who pays over the odds. In even a few weeks, you'll notice tickets been offered.

Come July will be all sorts of reasons why tickets become available - holidays, weddings, football, work, christenings, deaths etc etc. Its always the way.
I'm hoping for the full 270,000

That's good... it'll take out the population of Tyrone and 100,000 other d**kheads!!
People are d**kheads because they like a different type of music to youhave sh1tty taste in music and easily parted with cash?  You have issues.

Fixed that
I didn't ask you to fix it.

What is a shite taste in music anyway? We all like different types so who decides what is shite and isn't.
I hate music snobs.Just to be clear btw I don't like Garth Brooks or country music in general and wouldn't go to his concert but I'm sure there are plenty of concerts I would go to that someone else wouldn't go to.

Bon Jovi

I would have said the manufactured music instead of Bon Jovi or Garth Brooks.
Yet some people love them. No music is shite IMO. There is certainly music I dislike and wouldn't listen too same as there are foods I would never eat. Doesn't mean that food is shite,it's just not to my tastes.
I think it must be cooler to be a arsehole music snob though.
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: Maguire01 on January 30, 2014, 07:44:40 PM
Totally agree with Bensars, there will be plenty of tickets freed up come the time. Its sad that people will be exposed now to touts but I'd question anyone who pays over the odds. In even a few weeks, you'll notice tickets been offered.

Come July will be all sorts of reasons why tickets become available - holidays, weddings, football, work, christenings, deaths etc etc. Its always the way.
I'm hoping for the full 270,000

That's good... it'll take out the population of Tyrone and 100,000 other d**kheads!!
People are d**kheads because they like a different type of music to youhave sh1tty taste in music and easily parted with cash?  You have issues.

Fixed that
I didn't ask you to fix it.

What is a shite taste in music anyway? We all like different types so who decides what is shite and isn't.
I hate music snobs.Just to be clear btw I don't like Garth Brooks or country music in general and wouldn't go to his concert but I'm sure there are plenty of concerts I would go to that someone else wouldn't go to.

Bon Jovi

I would have said the manufactured music instead of Bon Jovi or Garth Brooks.
Yet some people love them. No music is shite IMO. There is certainly music I dislike and wouldn't listen too same as there are foods I would never eat. Doesn't mean that food is shite,it's just not to my tastes.
I think it must be cooler to be a arsehole music snob though.
So Turkey Twizzlers aren't shite?
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: armaghniac on January 30, 2014, 07:54:50 PM
Sorry tyronegirl, I haven't been to a gig in croker, hard to know what stage-side view would be like. But sure is there a bad seat at a Garth Brooks concert? :P

There might not be bad seats in Croker, but you could end up behind somebody in a 10 Gallon hat.
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: Tony Baloney on January 30, 2014, 08:36:46 PM
Sorry tyronegirl, I haven't been to a gig in croker, hard to know what stage-side view would be like. But sure is there a bad seat at a Garth Brooks concert? :P

There might not be bad seats in Croker, but you could end up behind somebody in a 10 Gallon hat.
Or this beauty.


Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: Farrandeelin on January 30, 2014, 08:58:09 PM
I got my ticket...well I haven't got it to hand, but I've one for the Saturday night. :D
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: thebigfella on January 30, 2014, 09:00:27 PM
Totally agree with Bensars, there will be plenty of tickets freed up come the time. Its sad that people will be exposed now to touts but I'd question anyone who pays over the odds. In even a few weeks, you'll notice tickets been offered.

Come July will be all sorts of reasons why tickets become available - holidays, weddings, football, work, christenings, deaths etc etc. Its always the way.
I'm hoping for the full 270,000

That's good... it'll take out the population of Tyrone and 100,000 other d**kheads!!
People are d**kheads because they like a different type of music to youhave sh1tty taste in music and easily parted with cash?  You have issues.

Fixed that
I didn't ask you to fix it.

What is a shite taste in music anyway? We all like different types so who decides what is shite and isn't.
I hate music snobs.Just to be clear btw I don't like Garth Brooks or country music in general and wouldn't go to his concert but I'm sure there are plenty of concerts I would go to that someone else wouldn't go to.

Bon Jovi

I would have said the manufactured music instead of Bon Jovi or Garth Brooks.
Yet some people love them. No music is shite IMO. There is certainly music I dislike and wouldn't listen too same as there are foods I would never eat. Doesn't mean that food is shite,it's just not to my tastes.
I think it must be cooler to be a arsehole music snob though.

You sure? I give you this www.youtube.com/watch?v=35UUsMnwquo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35UUsMnwquo)
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: trileacman on January 31, 2014, 12:23:00 AM
To be honest any time I read the music thread on the board >95% of them couldn't be listened to. If the majority of the depraved suggestions over there are what the Brooks fans are all missing out on then I can't see why you lads are enjoying such a good long sneer here now.

It reminds me of the lads who sneer and jibe at the works of others when they themselves haven't an arse in their trousers, like Spurs or Meath fans since 2001.
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: Captain Obvious on January 31, 2014, 01:11:53 AM
http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/hotels-hike-up-prices-for-weekend-of-garth-brooks-gigs-29965006.html
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: tyrone girl on January 31, 2014, 09:58:01 AM
What is the problem with people who like the music and want to go to his concert?
Just cos it isnt to your liking why feel the need to act the big men and think your cool cos you dont like him. Who cares less whether you wouldnt listen to him if he was in your back garden. Very good.
Pack of dicks on here think they are well informed on whats "credible" and whats not in the music industry. Away and scratch your balls!
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: Nally Stand on January 31, 2014, 10:05:46 AM
What is the problem with people who like the music and want to go to his concert?
Just cos it isnt to your liking why feel the need to act the big men and think your cool cos you dont like him. Who cares less whether you wouldnt listen to him if he was in your back garden. Very good.
Pack of dicks on here think they are well informed on whats "credible" and whats not in the music industry. Away and scratch your balls!


Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: blewuporstuffed on January 31, 2014, 10:14:52 AM
What is the problem with people who like the music and want to go to his concert?
Just cos it isnt to your liking why feel the need to act the big men and think your cool cos you dont like him. Who cares less whether you wouldnt listen to him if he was in your back garden. Very good.
Pack of dicks on here think they are well informed on whats "credible" and whats not in the music industry. Away and scratch your balls!

I wouldnt go to see garth brooks in a fit, not my thing at all, but plenty of people do, so if they want to go and see him and enjoy the show, then fair play.
What i cant understand is the complete mania these concerts have caused,people going mad looking tickets that would have no interest in going normally.
The amount of people on facebook last night posting up about getting 6 tickets or 10 tickets or whatever, WTF like??
Nothing to do with music snobbery, as i said he isnt my thing, but he writes catchy middle of the road country tunes that have a wide appeal, so i can undersatnd he is popular, but the level of hysteria of the whole thing baffles me.
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: tyrone girl on January 31, 2014, 10:20:03 AM
To be fair i agree totally with the level of hysteria/ hype being ridiculous. 
I actually love his music and always did growing up so have to say i was excited when heard he was coming. If i didnt get my tickets yesterday id have been well pissed off but i would have gotten over it within an hour or two.
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: Brick Tamlin on January 31, 2014, 10:22:05 AM
People get excited by different things.
Garth Brooks excites a lot of people.
A high percentage of those people probably have an agricultooral background.
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: ziggysego on January 31, 2014, 11:51:02 AM
What is the problem with people who like the music and want to go to his concert?
Just cos it isnt to your liking why feel the need to act the big men and think your cool cos you dont like him. Who cares less whether you wouldnt listen to him if he was in your back garden. Very good.
Pack of dicks on here think they are well informed on whats "credible" and whats not in the music industry. Away and scratch your balls!


Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: Cold tea on January 31, 2014, 11:53:44 AM
What is the problem with people who like the music and want to go to his concert?
Just cos it isnt to your liking why feel the need to act the big men and think your cool cos you dont like him. Who cares less whether you wouldnt listen to him if he was in your back garden. Very good.
Pack of dicks on here think they are well informed on whats "credible" and whats not in the music industry. Away and scratch your balls!

Post of the year.  ;D
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: BennyCake on January 31, 2014, 12:41:13 PM
2 tickets went for just over €2000 on eBay this morning. Madness.
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: Hardy on January 31, 2014, 07:30:07 PM

Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: theskull1 on January 31, 2014, 11:33:22 PM
Our evolution journey has reached its destination  :)



Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: Maguire01 on February 01, 2014, 08:39:26 AM
2 tickets went for just over €2000 on eBay this morning. Madness.
To be honest, I probably dislike Madness as much as Garth Brooks.
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: orangeman on February 01, 2014, 10:07:46 AM
There'd be more money in bringing Garth Brooks to Croke park for the quarter final weekend so they should put on another few dates and take everybody's money but satisfy the crazy demand at the same time.
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: Maguire01 on February 01, 2014, 10:29:26 AM
There'd be more money in bringing Garth Brooks to Croke park for the quarter final weekend so they should put on another few dates and take everybody's money but satisfy the crazy demand at the same time.
I'd say demand will be well satisfied with 3 nights - loads of people will have more tickets than they need.
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: donegal lad on February 01, 2014, 01:09:36 PM
Queued for 25 hours in Letterkenny to get my hands on tickets. I was number 50 in line and only got my tickets because a 3rd date was added. The demand for them was crazy had near 400 ppl in a queue in Letterkenny by the time 9.00am came and only 70 of these managed to get tickets.

Any of yous lucky enough to get tickets might want take a look at this. Have designed several different types tshirts and a hoodie for the big concert. These available to order for next 3 weeks
http://teespring.com/garthbrooksireland2014 (http://teespring.com/garthbrooksireland2014)
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: Maguire01 on February 01, 2014, 01:22:58 PM
Queued for 25 hours in Letterkenny to get my hands on tickets. I was number 50 in line and only got my tickets because a 3rd date was added. The demand for them was crazy had near 400 ppl in a queue in Letterkenny by the time 9.00am came and only 70 of these managed to get tickets.

Any of yous lucky enough to get tickets might want take a look at this. Have designed several different types tshirts and a hoodie for the big concert. These available to order for next 3 weeks
http://teespring.com/garthbrooksireland2014 (http://teespring.com/garthbrooksireland2014)
The height of fashion!
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: Tony Baloney on February 01, 2014, 01:34:20 PM
Queued for 25 hours in Letterkenny to get my hands on tickets. I was number 50 in line and only got my tickets because a 3rd date was added. The demand for them was crazy had near 400 ppl in a queue in Letterkenny by the time 9.00am came and only 70 of these managed to get tickets.

Any of yous lucky enough to get tickets might want take a look at this. Have designed several different types tshirts and a hoodie for the big concert. These available to order for next 3 weeks
http://teespring.com/garthbrooksireland2014 (http://teespring.com/garthbrooksireland2014)
Ordered.
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: Bensars on February 01, 2014, 02:36:32 PM
Queued for 25 hours in Letterkenny to get my hands on tickets. I was number 50 in line and only got my tickets because a 3rd date was added. The demand for them was crazy had near 400 ppl in a queue in Letterkenny by the time 9.00am came and only 70 of these managed to get tickets.

Any of yous lucky enough to get tickets might want take a look at this. Have designed several different types tshirts and a hoodie for the big concert. These available to order for next 3 weeks
http://teespring.com/garthbrooksireland2014 (http://teespring.com/garthbrooksireland2014)

Quote
Get ready to welcome back the #1 selling solo artist in us history, the one the only Mr Garth Brooks.

False advertising there Donegal lad! Mariah Carey, Whitney Houston, Michael jackson, Elvis and Madonna have all sold more  ;)
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: donegal lad on February 01, 2014, 02:41:40 PM
Queued for 25 hours in Letterkenny to get my hands on tickets. I was number 50 in line and only got my tickets because a 3rd date was added. The demand for them was crazy had near 400 ppl in a queue in Letterkenny by the time 9.00am came and only 70 of these managed to get tickets.

Any of yous lucky enough to get tickets might want take a look at this. Have designed several different types tshirts and a hoodie for the big concert. These available to order for next 3 weeks
http://teespring.com/garthbrooksireland2014 (http://teespring.com/garthbrooksireland2014)

Quote
Get ready to welcome back the #1 selling solo artist in us history, the one the only Mr Garth Brooks.

False advertising there Donegal lad! Mariah Carey, Whitney Houston, Michael jackson, Elvis and Madonna have all sold more  ;)
I'm afraid not my good man   ;)
http://www.nme.com/news/nme/32313 (http://www.nme.com/news/nme/32313)
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: Wildweasel74 on February 01, 2014, 02:46:28 PM
Should tried online instead of getting in line, a girl in at work got 6, and her husband got 4, fairly handy. what they need 10 tickets for is anybodys guess, am sure these gigs are a touts dream
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: Bensars on February 01, 2014, 02:56:47 PM
Queued for 25 hours in Letterkenny to get my hands on tickets. I was number 50 in line and only got my tickets because a 3rd date was added. The demand for them was crazy had near 400 ppl in a queue in Letterkenny by the time 9.00am came and only 70 of these managed to get tickets.

Any of yous lucky enough to get tickets might want take a look at this. Have designed several different types tshirts and a hoodie for the big concert. These available to order for next 3 weeks
http://teespring.com/garthbrooksireland2014 (http://teespring.com/garthbrooksireland2014)

Quote
Get ready to welcome back the #1 selling solo artist in us history, the one the only Mr Garth Brooks.

False advertising there Donegal lad! Mariah Carey, Whitney Houston, Michael jackson, Elvis and Madonna have all sold more  ;)
I'm afraid not my good man   ;)
http://www.nme.com/news/nme/32313 (http://www.nme.com/news/nme/32313)

lots of stuff out there to say otherwise.

This from 2012
http://ohnotheydidnt.livejournal.com/66626388.html?page=6&cut_expand=1 (http://ohnotheydidnt.livejournal.com/66626388.html?page=6&cut_expand=1)
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: donegal lad on February 01, 2014, 03:06:55 PM
Queued for 25 hours in Letterkenny to get my hands on tickets. I was number 50 in line and only got my tickets because a 3rd date was added. The demand for them was crazy had near 400 ppl in a queue in Letterkenny by the time 9.00am came and only 70 of these managed to get tickets.

Any of yous lucky enough to get tickets might want take a look at this. Have designed several different types tshirts and a hoodie for the big concert. These available to order for next 3 weeks
http://teespring.com/garthbrooksireland2014 (http://teespring.com/garthbrooksireland2014)

Quote
Get ready to welcome back the #1 selling solo artist in us history, the one the only Mr Garth Brooks.

False advertising there Donegal lad! Mariah Carey, Whitney Houston, Michael jackson, Elvis and Madonna have all sold more  ;)
I'm afraid not my good man   ;)
http://www.nme.com/news/nme/32313 (http://www.nme.com/news/nme/32313)

lots of stuff out there to say otherwise.

This from 2012
http://ohnotheydidnt.livejournal.com/66626388.html?page=6&cut_expand=1 (http://ohnotheydidnt.livejournal.com/66626388.html?page=6&cut_expand=1)
That isn't a fair comparison as garth brooks does not allow his music to be sold as downloads.
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: Maguire01 on February 01, 2014, 03:31:43 PM
Queued for 25 hours in Letterkenny to get my hands on tickets. I was number 50 in line and only got my tickets because a 3rd date was added. The demand for them was crazy had near 400 ppl in a queue in Letterkenny by the time 9.00am came and only 70 of these managed to get tickets.

Any of yous lucky enough to get tickets might want take a look at this. Have designed several different types tshirts and a hoodie for the big concert. These available to order for next 3 weeks
http://teespring.com/garthbrooksireland2014 (http://teespring.com/garthbrooksireland2014)

Quote
Get ready to welcome back the #1 selling solo artist in us history, the one the only Mr Garth Brooks.

False advertising there Donegal lad! Mariah Carey, Whitney Houston, Michael jackson, Elvis and Madonna have all sold more  ;)
I'm afraid not my good man   ;)
http://www.nme.com/news/nme/32313 (http://www.nme.com/news/nme/32313)

lots of stuff out there to say otherwise.

This from 2012
http://ohnotheydidnt.livejournal.com/66626388.html?page=6&cut_expand=1 (http://ohnotheydidnt.livejournal.com/66626388.html?page=6&cut_expand=1)
That isn't a fair comparison as garth brooks does not allow his music to be sold as downloads.
That's his problem surely.
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on February 01, 2014, 03:57:35 PM
That NME article is from 2007 FFS  :D
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: Tony Baloney on February 01, 2014, 03:58:22 PM
Queued for 25 hours in Letterkenny to get my hands on tickets. I was number 50 in line and only got my tickets because a 3rd date was added. The demand for them was crazy had near 400 ppl in a queue in Letterkenny by the time 9.00am came and only 70 of these managed to get tickets.

Any of yous lucky enough to get tickets might want take a look at this. Have designed several different types tshirts and a hoodie for the big concert. These available to order for next 3 weeks
http://teespring.com/garthbrooksireland2014 (http://teespring.com/garthbrooksireland2014)
Show your ticket stub to get 10% off these in a Garth Brooks special.


Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: optimus cheese on February 01, 2014, 04:11:39 PM
What is the problem with people who like the music and want to go to his concert?
Just cos it isnt to your liking why feel the need to act the big men and think your cool cos you dont like him. Who cares less whether you wouldnt listen to him if he was in your back garden. Very good.
Pack of dicks on here think they are well informed on whats "credible" and whats not in the music industry. Away and scratch your balls!

Aye, dead on Brandine!
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: laoislad on February 03, 2014, 09:40:34 AM
4th gig announced.
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: Hereiam on February 03, 2014, 09:50:50 AM
This has been poorly managed by all concerned.
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: Maguire01 on February 03, 2014, 10:00:51 AM
Hilarious - the touts can watch the value of their tickets fall through the floor!
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: orangeman on February 03, 2014, 10:09:16 AM
This has been poorly managed by all concerned.

It's been managed great as long as you're not a fan. Hype generated led to pumped up demand which led to stories of mile long queues and exorbitant eBay black market prices.

It's like a milking machine and the machine will switch off when there's no milk left.

As long you're not a fan, it's been great so far.
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: Cold tea on February 03, 2014, 10:10:58 AM
This has been poorly managed by all concerned.

How so?  Two gigs announced, 3rd after 2 sell out, 4th after discussion with Croker obviously re: play offs! Anyone who bought tickets on ebay deserve all they get, more money than sense, twats!
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: Maguire01 on February 03, 2014, 10:26:18 AM
Even better for all those who bought 6 tickets. Brooks, the GAA, Aiken and Dublin will make a killing, but i'm not convinced there's genuine demand for 320,000 tickets.
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: Bensars on February 03, 2014, 10:27:07 AM
This has been poorly managed by all concerned.

No huge secret hereiam. See below . "i got friends in low places" ;)

This is  a prime example of greed. People wading in to get 6 tickets each. Come june when done deal, gumtree and ebay are awash with them there will be a glut of people taking face value or close to it in order to recoup their outlay.

Thats not taking into consideration a 4th date already pencilled in for Croke park, or the Belfast Gig

Expertly managed. From a promotional PR perspective. The ticket allocation model promoted artifical demand by allowing 6 tickets per transaction. Effectively sell them quick, we got our money, then let them worry about distribution.



Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: orangeman on February 03, 2014, 10:31:56 AM
Springsteen had a pile of concerts last summer. Demand was mad. Tickets were more more expensive.

Come the time of the concerts there were loads of tickets going for face value or slightly less.
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: Shamrock Shore on February 03, 2014, 10:45:42 AM
10% of tickets for each gig will come on the market about a month before the gig.

We have all seen the ads "Extra tickets have just become available" etc. This is to burn the touts.

You can be sure Aiken has this down to a fine art and any gimp that pays well over the odds for a ticket should be shot with a ball of their own shite.
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: balladmaker on February 03, 2014, 12:33:58 PM
Quote
We have all seen the ads "Extra tickets have just become available" etc.

Anytime you see this, it is promoter speak for 'we haven't sold out yet'!  Your average promoter doesn't give a damn who buys their tickets, real fans or touts, so long as they sell them.
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: Shamrock Shore on February 03, 2014, 12:40:02 PM
When Take That were in Croke Park 3-4 years ago the tickets sold out in a millisecond.

Yet a month before the gig I stumbled upon tickets on Ticketbastard that were for sale (don't ask) that were far better than the tickets that all the fat heifers had who had probably queued overnight for them.

Took the Mrs along as a surprise. Must day I enjoyed the gig although, natch, it wouldn't be my cup of tea.

Mark my words tickets for all four Jaysesing gigs will be on sale in June.
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 03, 2014, 12:50:11 PM
When Take That were in Croke Park 3-4 years ago the tickets sold out in a millisecond.

Yet a month before the gig I stumbled upon tickets on Ticketbastard that were for sale (don't ask) that were far better than the tickets that all the fat heifers had who had probably queued overnight for them.

Took the Mrs along as a surprise. Must day I enjoyed the gig although, natch, it wouldn't be my cup of tea.

Mark my words tickets for all four Jaysesing gigs will be on sale in June.

Would it be the allocations they hold back for corprate and the like? They probably hold back on a percentage for those reasons, also keeps the hype and interest going
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: Bingo on February 03, 2014, 01:32:45 PM
When Take That were in Croke Park 3-4 years ago the tickets sold out in a millisecond.

Yet a month before the gig I stumbled upon tickets on Ticketbastard that were for sale (don't ask) that were far better than the tickets that all the fat heifers had who had probably queued overnight for them.

Took the Mrs along as a surprise. Must day I enjoyed the gig although, natch, it wouldn't be my cup of tea.

Mark my words tickets for all four Jaysesing gigs will be on sale in June.

Would it be the allocations they hold back for corprate and the like? They probably hold back on a percentage for those reasons, also keeps the hype and interest going

A lot would also be production tickets. Held by until such time as they settle on stage and prop location, these are normally the best seats. Once they agree the stage and production set up they can release these tickets.

Croke park would also have a % held as corporate tickets which may well free up.
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: Wildweasel74 on February 03, 2014, 01:42:13 PM
Might waltz along to the 4th Gig come the time, i not bother getting a ticket to closer the time, was fit to get tickets for Springsteen handy enough on gumtree last sumemr  a few days before the gig
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: theskull1 on February 03, 2014, 02:05:16 PM
Might waltz along to the 4th Gig come the time, i not bother getting a ticket to closer the time, was fit to get tickets for Springsteen handy enough on gumtree last sumemr  a few days before the gig

A do si do would be more appropriate
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: johnneycool on February 03, 2014, 02:46:44 PM
f**k it, I'm stocking up on Stetsons, pointy toed boots and checked shirts and hawking on the jones road, will be able to retire by the 29th of July,,

YEEE HAAAAAWWWW

Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: Tony Baloney on February 03, 2014, 02:48:17 PM
f**k it, I'm stocking up on Stetsons, pointy toed boots and checked shirts and hawking on the jones road, will be able to retire by the 29th of July,,

YEEE HAAAAAWWWW
You Ards boys only need to look in the wardrobe for stock  :D
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: Under Lights on February 03, 2014, 02:56:26 PM
I'm very smug, went on and bought just two tickets, all I needed, was first in our office to beat the online queue as everyone else put in for the maximum. Hope people who bought just because they were looking a quick buck on the resale end up not getting them sold/and or sold at a loss.

Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: deiseach on February 03, 2014, 02:57:38 PM
Watching Justified on Netflix in preparation for the big day days week. And yes, I know Kentucky is bluegrass country but all the talk of guns, trucks and cousins would get you right in the mood.
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: Cold tea on February 06, 2014, 09:46:33 AM
Monday sold out another concert on tuesday - 400,000 people gong to see him now!
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: Cold tea on February 06, 2014, 09:48:37 AM
He'll be hoarse by the Tuesday.  ;D
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: Moortown Spuds on February 06, 2014, 10:18:17 AM
Another date added! Glad to see the wannabe touts suffer!!! :)
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: 5 Sams on February 06, 2014, 10:20:24 AM
The Croker groundsman will be delira :-X
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: johnneycool on February 06, 2014, 10:22:31 AM
The Croker groundsman will be delira :-X

Never mind that, think of the spondulaks filling Pete McKenna and Pauric Duffy's coffers, its all good.

Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: Moortown Spuds on February 06, 2014, 10:25:56 AM
GAA should put up a million euro prize fund, send 1000 £20 tickets to every club and let the clubs keep the revenue!!!

Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: Shamrock Shore on February 06, 2014, 10:28:03 AM
God help the residents of the area.

I am thinking of World War Z and the redneck/culchie invasion on the poor residents over 5 days.
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: BennyCake on February 06, 2014, 10:36:50 AM
God help the residents of the area.

I am thinking of World War Z and the redneck/culchie invasion on the poor residents over 5 days.

It will be a great week to be a burglar in Tyrone!
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: Cold tea on February 06, 2014, 10:38:54 AM
Thousands queued overnight around the country for their chance to get their tickets in the flesh.

The fourth concert sold out in 29 minutes and a fifth date was announced this morning after.

His fifth concert will be on Tuesday 29 July.

The line of people waiting on Patrick Street in Cork grew so large that it wrapped around to the quays; in Dublin, Stephen's Green shopping centre became a mecca of country fans singing their idol's songs as they patiently waited for their golden tickets.

Ticketmaster Ireland once again reported a 'high demand' for tickets today as its expected to be his last Irish date.

"It's a busy morning and we're selling tickets fast," they wrote on their Twitter page. "To ensure fair access some of you may see queue pages, please follow the instructions."

80,000 tickets in 29 minutes, you would wait that long for a good fish supper!
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: orangeman on February 06, 2014, 10:57:14 AM
This is mad.
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: armaghniac on February 06, 2014, 11:06:12 AM
Thon big lump will make more in 5 days than the rest of us would in 20 years, even someone in a decent job.

I'd say the extra dates put the skids on the prices on EBay though, preventing others making money!
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: laoislad on February 06, 2014, 12:31:30 PM
5 nights!

We want 6 ...We want 6!
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: heffo on February 06, 2014, 01:00:42 PM
The Croker groundsman will be delira :-X

Two sections at either end of the pitches are being replaced after 1 direction and Garth Brooks
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: Tony Baloney on February 06, 2014, 01:25:35 PM
For the people that paid through the nose for tickets...

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: Under Lights on February 06, 2014, 01:35:19 PM
5 nights!

We want 6 ...We want 6!

LOL
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: grounded on February 06, 2014, 01:44:20 PM
Done deal now full of Garth Brook's tickets many at face value.
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: deiseach on February 06, 2014, 01:57:19 PM
For the people that paid through the nose for tickets...

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

A fool and their money etc
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: Bingo on February 06, 2014, 02:08:56 PM
Thats some ticket sales in fairness.

The country will be awash with tickets come July mind.
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: deiseach on February 06, 2014, 02:15:47 PM
There must a Vesuvius of repressed rage out there at how the GAA are cashing in on this. The thought makes me very happy.
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: T Fearon on February 06, 2014, 02:28:20 PM
Only a matter of time before a GAABoard poster emerges under the name "5 Garths" ;D
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: FermGael on February 06, 2014, 03:13:16 PM
There must a Vesuvius of repressed rage out there at how the GAA are cashing in on this. The thought makes me very happy.

and add in the One direction concerts as well this year. 
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: Bingo on February 06, 2014, 03:24:49 PM
There must a Vesuvius of repressed rage out there at how the GAA are cashing in on this. The thought makes me very happy.

and add in the One direction concerts as well this year.

John Delaney is sitting crying in the Aviva as Nathan Carter won't take his calls.

Wait until the first player slips on the surface in one of the games after the concerts and there will be internal uproar within the GAA community.
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: deiseach on February 06, 2014, 03:26:06 PM
Wait until the first player slips on the surface in one of the games after the concerts and there will be internal uproar within the GAA community.

Every silver lining has a cloud.
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: ziggysego on February 06, 2014, 03:28:20 PM
Only a matter of time before a GAABoard poster emerges under the name "5 Garths" ;D

Enter any of the competitions yet Tony?  ;D
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: Cold tea on February 06, 2014, 04:06:16 PM
Some great quotes on the rte website.

Yeeeeeghha · 4 hours ago
After this Summer Garth Brooks will have been to Croke Park more times than me !!!!  ;D
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: Hardy on February 06, 2014, 04:08:28 PM
It's sad that it took a podge-bellied soft MOR pseudo-country peddler in a cowboy hat to do what neither Kerry nor Kilkenny could achieve.,
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: AZOffaly on February 06, 2014, 04:11:44 PM
It's sad that it took a podge-bellied soft MOR pseudo-country peddler in a cowboy hat to do what neither Kerry nor Kilkenny could achieve.,

What's that? Play the Guitar? Sing through his nose?
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: deiseach on February 06, 2014, 04:32:46 PM
It's sad that it took a podge-bellied soft MOR pseudo-country peddler in a cowboy hat to do what neither Kerry nor Kilkenny could achieve.,

Kerry made the better music out of it though. All together now:

They came from the north, south, east and the west
But to Micko's machine they were all second best!
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: Hardy on February 06, 2014, 04:50:14 PM
Strange that the whole world-wide interweb has been purged of any trace of that classic. Surely someone from Offaly can find it and upload to YouTube.
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: give her dixie on February 06, 2014, 07:14:26 PM
Residents considering legal action over the amount of concerts taking place this year at Croke Park

http://www.98fm.com/Residents-Could-Launch-Action-Over-Brooks-Gigs
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: Tony Baloney on February 06, 2014, 09:16:33 PM
So who is actually going to this as the bald figures (not O'Neill or Laoislad) suggest that 1 in every 20 people are going (probably more like 1 in 10 when you remove those at either end of the bell curve).

There must thousands in the hands of touts!
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: laoislad on February 06, 2014, 09:20:20 PM
God help the residents of the area.

I am thinking of World War Z and the redneck/culchie invasion on the poor residents over 5 days.
Ah the poor residents.  Imagine buying a house beside one of the biggest stadiums in Europe then finding out the stadium is actually going to be used to host events!
Won't somebody please think of the children.
Anyway it's not like the Dubs are playing there 5 nights in a row, the crowd at the concerts should all be respectable enough.
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: Syferus on February 06, 2014, 10:54:20 PM
Residents considering legal action over the amount of concerts taking place this year at Croke Park

http://www.98fm.com/Residents-Could-Launch-Action-Over-Brooks-Gigs

What a load of tools.
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: orangeman on February 07, 2014, 01:00:06 AM
Croke Park residents could learn Casement Park folk a thing or two about protesting.
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: Captain Obvious on February 07, 2014, 01:22:00 AM
Residents considering legal action over the amount of concerts taking place this year at Croke Park

http://www.98fm.com/Residents-Could-Launch-Action-Over-Brooks-Gigs

What next, residents in country houses to consider legal action over the smell of slurry?
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: Jell 0 Biafra on February 07, 2014, 03:06:51 AM
Residents considering legal action over the amount of concerts taking place this year at Croke Park

http://www.98fm.com/Residents-Could-Launch-Action-Over-Brooks-Gigs

What a load of tools.

In fairness, it's one thing to expect a few games over the summer--but having to put up with Brooks is another thing entirely.
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: orangeman on February 07, 2014, 09:04:31 AM
Number 6 en route.
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: EC Unique on February 07, 2014, 10:21:23 AM
If lived there I would have a container load of big yeehaa hats ordered in from China and cash in on the fools.
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: 5 Sams on February 07, 2014, 10:29:56 AM
If lived there I would have a container load of big yeehaa hats ordered in from China and cash in on the fools.

No call to live there....just sit at the Ballygawley roundabout.
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: AZOffaly on February 07, 2014, 10:31:48 AM
Why are they fools? Because they like Garth Brooks? I don't call that a fool, I call that having different taste. People would want to get over themselves I think.
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: supersarsfields on February 07, 2014, 01:22:22 PM
Why are they fools? Because they like Garth Brooks? I don't call that a fool, I call that having different taste. People would want to get over themselves I think.

Too fecking right. The music snobbery on here is laughable.
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: BennyCake on February 07, 2014, 01:23:55 PM
Apparently 7% of Irish people now have tickets. Or in simpler terms, 98% of Tyrone have tickets.

Where exactly is Garth Brooks playing as part of his world tour? Croke Park and Inbred Redneck states in America?
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: EC Unique on February 07, 2014, 01:31:29 PM
Why are they fools? Because they like Garth Brooks? I don't call that a fool, I call that having different taste. People would want to get over themselves I think.


Liking Garth Brooks? No problem.

Standing outside music shops for 2 or 3 days in a line? Fools.

Giving touts 3 and 4 times the face value? Fools.

Paying 3 times the rate for an average hotel room? Fools.

Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: AZOffaly on February 07, 2014, 01:32:55 PM
Fair enough. I think that's a bit foolish myself!
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: ballinaman on February 07, 2014, 01:34:30 PM
God help the residents of the area.

I am thinking of World War Z and the redneck/culchie invasion on the poor residents over 5 days.
Ah the poor residents.  Imagine buying a house beside one of the biggest stadiums in Europe then finding out the stadium is actually going to be used to host events!
Won't somebody please think of the children.
Anyway it's not like the Dubs are playing there 5 nights in a row, the crowd at the concerts should all be respectable enough.
I live inside the security cordon and it's going to be a pain the balls on the Monday and Tuesday getting home from work. Not bothered about the weekend. May take a weeks holidays...people get a fair bit more pissed going to concerts than GAA games I reckon.
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: Cold tea on February 07, 2014, 02:00:19 PM
Why are they fools? Because they like Garth Brooks? I don't call that a fool, I call that having different taste. People would want to get over themselves I think.


Liking Garth Brooks? No problem.

Standing outside music shops for 2 or 3 days in a line? Fools.

Giving touts 3 and 4 times the face value? Fools.

Paying 3 times the rate for an average hotel room? Fools.

It's people having a bit of craic ffs.
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on February 07, 2014, 02:42:07 PM
Apparently 7% of Irish people now have tickets. Or in simpler terms, 98% of Tyrone have tickets.

Where exactly is Garth Brooks playing as part of his world tour? Croke Park and Inbred Redneck states in America?

The only concerts announced are the ones in Ireland
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: Syferus on February 07, 2014, 06:53:11 PM
Hopefully the rumours about a sixth date come true. That should rightly sicken the legal eagles living on Jones' Road.
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: BennyCake on February 07, 2014, 11:22:14 PM
I'd say there will be a big rise in the number of puppies strangled and cats kicked around Drumcondra at the end of July. Five days listening to Garth Brooks. It's enough to push you over the edge.
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: ONeill on February 07, 2014, 11:31:08 PM
Will 5 consecutive nights not be seriously taxing on his vocals?
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: The Worker on February 08, 2014, 06:23:42 AM
Will 5 consecutive nights not be seriously taxing on his vocals?

Has he not been in Vegas playing for a long number of consecutive nights the past while ?
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: laoislad on February 08, 2014, 09:03:54 AM
Will 5 consecutive nights not be seriously taxing on his vocals?

Has he not been in Vegas playing for a long number of consecutive nights the past while ?

Think he was in the Wynn hotel.
When we were over in Vegas he was to be starting the following week. I was gutted I missed him!
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: orangeman on February 08, 2014, 10:18:59 AM
Will 5 consecutive nights not be seriously taxing on his vocals?

I'd say the only thing taxing him is the thought of the taxman after this windfall.

The irony of it all. Garth comes to Ireland after the recession and gets bailed out.
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: haranguerer on February 08, 2014, 11:35:32 AM
Why are they fools? Because they like Garth Brooks? I don't call that a fool, I call that having different taste. People would want to get over themselves I think.


Liking Garth Brooks? No problem.

Standing outside music shops for 2 or 3 days in a line? Fools.

Giving touts 3 and 4 times the face value? Fools.

Paying 3 times the rate for an average hotel room? Fools.

Attending the concert of someone they are fans of, and having an amazing time they'll treasure for the rest of their lives? Fools.
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: stew on February 08, 2014, 12:42:23 PM
Brooks is one of the best snowmen on earth and the fans that attend his concerts are top notch.

It is one big party and the music is great as is the atmosphere,  youse boys on here that stick your noses in the air are some craic!  ::)
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: Under Lights on February 08, 2014, 03:56:14 PM
Brooks is one of the best snowmen on earth and the fans that attend his concerts are top notch.

It is one big party and the music is great as is the atmosphere,  youse boys on here that stick your noses in the air are some craic!  ::)


Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: orangeman on April 16, 2014, 09:26:16 AM
The news that Gaa clubs up and down the country have been waiting for. A windfall is coming our way. Fair okay to the Gaa. Great news.

GAA clubs are to benefit from a €500,000 windfall from central funds in the coming weeks as part of their share of the cash injection from the eight concerts that Croke Park is due to stage in 2014.

Five Garth Brooks concerts have been announced for July on top of three One Direction concerts in June, which will leave the Association with substantial extra revenue from stadium use.

There is ongoing mediation with local residents over the staging of eight concerts, five more than the normal quota.

The GAA's management committee have been exploring ways that they could filter some of that money down to hard-pressed clubs and have opted to refund every €2 registration that is paid on an adult membership for 2013.

SAVING

Not every club declares their full membership to Croke Park and they thereby make a small saving by withholding the registration free, but those clubs which did register all their members can expect to see that money back in the coming weeks.

The windfall was disclosed by director-general Paraic Duffy during the course of their meeting with an Oireachtas Committee on Communications over the Sky deal to cover 20 championship matches, 14 on an exclusive basis, every summer for the next three years.

GAA president Liam O'Neill and Duffy addressed the concerns of the Oireachtas Committee members for almost two hours yesterday.

Duffy stressed that if the GAA wanted a platform in the UK for potential viewers, then they had to do a deal with Sky. A company like the BBC would not be interested in showing games outside of Ulster, it was pointed out.

O'Neill insisted he had faced no "direct" opposition to the deal over the last two weeks from GAA members.

O'Neill admitted that he had "worried" about the deal every night since it was released and would continue to have concerns until he sees how it unfolds.
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: highorlow on April 16, 2014, 12:43:36 PM
Quote
Brooks is one of the best snowmen on earth and the fans that attend his concerts are top notch.


He should be waiting until Winter for these concerts, you know for health and safety reasons.
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: johnneycool on April 16, 2014, 12:47:53 PM
Will 5 consecutive nights not be seriously taxing on his vocals?

Oh, I'm sure he'll master lip syncing before then or do what uncle Hugo does and lets the crowd sing along to his 'hits' especially the high notes.
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: Shamrock Shore on April 16, 2014, 02:07:09 PM
AFAIK half his feckin gig is chatting to the audience about mom and apple pie and his love for JESUS

this may or may not be true
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: highorlow on April 16, 2014, 02:26:48 PM
Quote
Will 5 consecutive nights not be seriously taxing on his vocals?

The field will be in bad shape after that. I wouldn't like to be playing in Croker the following weekend.
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: ballinaman on June 25, 2014, 01:01:03 PM
http://www.independent.ie/entertainment/music/music-news/croke-park-residents-poised-to-take-action-on-garth-brooks-gigs-30383476.html




Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: Hardy on June 25, 2014, 02:29:05 PM
Who knew people lived in Croke park?!?
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: laoislad on June 25, 2014, 03:03:17 PM
http://www.independent.ie/entertainment/music/music-news/croke-park-residents-poised-to-take-action-on-garth-brooks-gigs-30383476.html





Bastards.
They won't stop me going to see the greatest living human alive today. Garth abú.
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: BennyCake on June 25, 2014, 03:07:19 PM
http://www.independent.ie/entertainment/music/music-news/croke-park-residents-poised-to-take-action-on-garth-brooks-gigs-30383476.html





b**tards.
They won't stop me going to see the greatest living human alive today. Garth abú.

Yes, but will they stop you seeing Garth Brooks too?
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: Bingo on June 25, 2014, 03:11:38 PM
http://www.independent.ie/entertainment/music/music-news/croke-park-residents-poised-to-take-action-on-garth-brooks-gigs-30383476.html





b**tards.
They won't stop me going to see the greatest living human alive today. Garth abú.

Its the closest Ireland has been to civil war. The culchies V the Dubs (including the wannbe Dubs living in the big smoke like BM)  ;)
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: AZOffaly on June 25, 2014, 03:43:50 PM
http://www.independent.ie/entertainment/music/music-news/croke-park-residents-poised-to-take-action-on-garth-brooks-gigs-30383476.html





b**tards.
They won't stop me going to see the greatest living human alive today. Garth abú.

Its the closest Ireland has been to civil war. The culchies V the Dubs (including the wannbe Dubs living in the big smoke like BM)  ;)

I would have said the civil war in the 20s was closer, but that's just me :D
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: Hereiam on June 26, 2014, 10:03:43 AM
I have two tickets for sale in the lower Hogan for the Sunday night if anyone is interested.
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: Under Lights on June 26, 2014, 10:07:01 AM
Quote
Brooks is one of the best snowmen on earth and the fans that attend his concerts are top notch.


He should be waiting until Winter for these concerts, you know for health and safety reasons.

 :D :D ;D
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: blewuporstuffed on June 26, 2014, 11:08:53 AM
 
Quote
Brooks is one of the best snowmen on earth and the fans that attend his concerts are top notch.


He should be waiting until Winter for these concerts, you know for health and safety reasons.

 :D :D ;D

 ;D
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: Zip Code on June 26, 2014, 01:25:28 PM
I have two tickets for sale in the lower Hogan for the Sunday night if anyone is interested.

Everyone in Ireland must have a ticket by now!
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: orangeman on June 27, 2014, 09:31:59 AM
£500k deal sorted out for "local projects". Everybody happy now.
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: orangeman on June 27, 2014, 10:14:22 AM
Official statement -

The GAA and Croke Park Stadium has received the report of the independent mediator Kieran Mulvey, Chief Executive of the Labour Relations Commission.
We acknowledge his work and that of another public official Senan Turnbull in taking on this task. We appreciate the time given to all the parties, including residents’ representatives, the GAA, the Gardaí, Dublin City Council and all others who, as the report says, want and desire, like ourselves, to have a more constructive and worthwhile engagement.
The GAA engaged wholeheartedly in this process as it wishes to have a better relationship around the planning, holding and licensing of concerts and special events in Croke Park Stadium and therefore accepts the recommendations of the report. The GAA and Croke Park Stadium welcome Mr Mulvey’s recommendation for one single representative body for the wider area.
While the report has financial implications for the GAA, most notably in the number of events and consecutive events that can be held at Croke Park, along with further financial obligations, we accept Mr Mulvey’s recommendations.
The Association agrees to a one off investment in a legacy project or projects to the value of €500,000 and a 20% increase in the Stadium’s annual Community Fund bringing the revised figure to €120,000 per annum. This fund has already invested over €500,000 in local community projects. The GAA and Croke Park Stadium are also committed to working with Dublin City Council on the area regeneration and redevelopment project around Croke Villas to incorporate a new GAA Club and Handball Centre through the investment of €11m.
The GAA hopes all parties will accept Mr Mulvey’s recommendations and comments.
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: orangeman on June 30, 2014, 09:15:06 AM
Oh dear

Gardai are investigating a complaint from Dublin City Council that "a small number" of objections were "forged".

Cllr Christy Burke said he would be surprised if there were any irregularities attached to any petition regarding the issue.

"In my dealings on any issues surrounding Croke Park and Clonliffe Road residents, they have always been very professional, very dignified and very honest," said Cllr Burke.

"And if that did happen it would be a terrible insult to the decent men and women in that area who are trying to the best for their little communities, particularly those in the cordoned off areas," he said.

However Cllr Burke also said that if there are discrepancies gardai have a right to look into it. "It would be a shame because these men and women in those areas have for years been doing their best to try and get a standard quality of life," he said. "So anything of that nature, if there are irregularities and if it was fraudulent it certainly doesn't go down with me."

It is believed that council officials raised the issue after noticing similarities in the handwriting of names and addresses on some of the template petition letters and decided to alert Mountjoy Garda Station, which oversees the Croke Park area.

It is also understood that a number of follow-up phone calls to residents confirmed that they did not sign the objection letters their names appeared on.

Pat Gates of the Clonliffe and Croke Park Area Residents Association said that he too was unaware of the allegations and that the DCC are being distracted by the complaint.
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: WT4E on July 03, 2014, 10:58:26 AM
Oh sweet Baton Rouge:

http://www.thejournal.ie/garth-brooks-permission-1551169-Jul2014/

Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: Bingo on July 03, 2014, 11:14:08 AM
For Sale: 160,000 tickets for Garth Brooks.
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: Moortown Spuds on July 03, 2014, 11:24:51 AM
Price of the non-cancelled will go through the roof now. Capitalism................  8)
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: orangeman on July 03, 2014, 11:25:59 AM
oh dear oh dear.
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: balladmaker on July 03, 2014, 11:29:00 AM
Some headache for Aiken Promotions now ... 160,000 disgruntled people to be refunded, hotels booked and paid for, travel booked etc. etc. Going to be some mess to sort out.
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: ballinaman on July 03, 2014, 11:29:26 AM
Brooks fans dreams up in flames....here's me.


Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: WT4E on July 03, 2014, 11:33:18 AM
Heard people suggesting the Aviva as alternative but surely logistically getting all that equipment down and up again in one night/day would be nearly impossible!

Fair play to the Croke Park Residents for sticking to there guns!
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: BennyCake on July 03, 2014, 11:34:48 AM
Those who queued in the pissing rain for a week, are looking like a bunch of tits now.
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: Bingo on July 03, 2014, 11:35:07 AM
Brooks fans dreams up in flames....here's me.




The only bruning will be of Drumcondra  >:(

Lets wear our straw hats with pride and wreck the place  >:(
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: Bingo on July 03, 2014, 11:37:16 AM
Great news for the residents touts who have tickets for sale for the 3 weekend shows, demand has suddenly increased again.
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: thebigfella on July 03, 2014, 11:38:51 AM
Dublin Citi Council didn't go far enough, should have banned the lot  :P

Sales in check shirts, dealer boots and stetson's will surely take a hit?
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: Lazer on July 03, 2014, 11:41:49 AM
Fair play to the residents!

There was far too many concerts between One Direction and Garth Brooks

5 nights in a row is too much!
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: balladmaker on July 03, 2014, 11:42:59 AM
Quote
Those who queued in the pissing rain for a week, are looking like a bunch of tits now.
  I wouldn't think so, their's are the shows that are most likely to go ahead I'd say.
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: ballinaman on July 03, 2014, 11:44:23 AM
We're bigger than you and can do whatever the fcuk we like.
Hahahaha
Liveline will be hilarious later, raging I'm going to miss it. Fcuk them. Tried to throw money at the residents to keep them quiet.
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: Mayo4Sam on July 03, 2014, 11:47:27 AM
Did you get much yourself?
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: ballinaman on July 03, 2014, 11:50:15 AM
Did you get much yourself?
Not a penny or a ticket even offered. Would have burned the ticket anyway, you know..just to be a c**t. ;D

Never about the money anyway. Good to see a bit of community spirit and not getting rolled over by the fat cats in city hall!
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: Lazer on July 03, 2014, 11:50:57 AM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-28144918

Dublin city council not confirming this
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: orangeman on July 03, 2014, 11:58:19 AM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-28144918

Dublin city council not confirming this

Padraig's phone will be hopping.
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: Hereiam on July 03, 2014, 12:04:00 PM
RTE have it up that Monday and Tuesday have been cancelled.
I still have two tickets for anyone who wants to go on Sunday nite.
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: EC Unique on July 03, 2014, 12:18:57 PM
I would say there is a convoy of tractors heading for Dublin as we speak.


Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: balladmaker on July 03, 2014, 12:47:21 PM
Looks like the backhander to the residents was enough for them this time  ::)
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: orangeman on July 03, 2014, 12:50:25 PM
Irish Independent are reporting that ALL 5 concerts may be cancelled due to breach of contract.

http://www.independent.ie/entertainment/music/music-news/exclusive-fears-grow-that-all-five-garth-brooks-gigs-will-be-cancelled-30404148.html
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: balladmaker on July 03, 2014, 12:51:43 PM
I always said it ... adding Nathan Carter to the bill for the Mon & Tues night would be enough to tip things over the edge!
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: ballinaman on July 03, 2014, 12:52:01 PM
Looks like the backhander to the residents was enough for them this time  ::)
How much did they get individually last time? Throw up the figures if you have them there, cheers.

Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: NAG1 on July 03, 2014, 12:57:50 PM
Looks like the backhander to the residents was enough for them this time  ::)
How much did they get individually last time? Throw up the figures if you have them there, cheers.

What do the residents of Wembly and other other big concert/ event venues have to say on this subject or are they told that these events happen without having a say?

Bit of bad form, should these licenses not have been agreed before tickets etc were sold?
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: orangeman on July 03, 2014, 01:00:53 PM
Looks like the backhander to the residents was enough for them this time  ::)
How much did they get individually last time? Throw up the figures if you have them there, cheers.

What do the residents of Wembly and other other big concert/ event venues have to say on this subject or are they told that these events happen without having a say?

Bit of bad form, should these licenses not have been agreed before tickets etc were sold?

That's not the GAA way.
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: AZOffaly on July 03, 2014, 01:04:09 PM
Looks like the backhander to the residents was enough for them this time  ::)
How much did they get individually last time? Throw up the figures if you have them there, cheers.

What do the residents of Wembly and other other big concert/ event venues have to say on this subject or are they told that these events happen without having a say?

Bit of bad form, should these licenses not have been agreed before tickets etc were sold?

That's not the GAA way.

Always happens. You've seen it on posters and gig tickets all the time "subject to licence".
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: Under Lights on July 03, 2014, 01:08:14 PM
Someone give me a good Gareth Brooks related pun for this news.
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: WT4E on July 03, 2014, 01:11:43 PM
Someone give me a good Gareth Brooks related pun for this news.

What about:

"If tomorrow and the next day never comes!"

OR

We Shall Be Three
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: Hardy on July 03, 2014, 01:15:01 PM
What is it in our nature that delights in seeing an organisation getting something wrong, even if it's an organisation we belong to, even if it ultimately means everybody in organisation loses out to some extent?

I reckon the 800 years has ingrained such a devotion to anarchy that we just like to see things going wrong for any person or body seen to be in some kind of authority, even if it's an authority granted by ourselves.

I think DCC made the right decision, I'm just interested in the delight it engenders among GAA members. I don't have the stomach for the predictable GAA-bashing we're going to get for the next while from the usual quarters. Don't for God's sake switch on Livewhine today.
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: ballinaman on July 03, 2014, 01:16:19 PM
What is it in our nature that delights in seeing an organisation getting something wrong, even if it's an organisation we belong to, even if it ultimately means everybody in organisation loses out to some extent?

I reckon the 800 years has ingrained such a devotion to anarchy that we just like to see things going wrong for any person or body seen to be in some kind of authority, even if it's an authority granted by ourselves.

I think DCC made the right decision, I'm just interested in the delight it engenders among GAA members. I don't have the stomach for the predictable GAA-bashing we're going to get for the next while from the usual quarters. Don't for God's sake switch on Livewhine today.
Schadenfreude
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: AZOffaly on July 03, 2014, 01:16:31 PM
It's tiresome alright.
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: Under Lights on July 03, 2014, 01:17:10 PM
Someone give me a good Gareth Brooks related pun for this news.

What about:

"If tomorrow and the next day never comes!"

OR

We Shall Be Three

First one a good one- I went for Ring Of Fire Extinguished.
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: AZOffaly on July 03, 2014, 01:17:44 PM
That's johnny cash
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: orangeman on July 03, 2014, 01:21:37 PM
Where are the friends in low high places.
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: NAG1 on July 03, 2014, 01:24:55 PM
What is it in our nature that delights in seeing an organisation getting something wrong, even if it's an organisation we belong to, even if it ultimately means everybody in organisation loses out to some extent?

I reckon the 800 years has ingrained such a devotion to anarchy that we just like to see things going wrong for any person or body seen to be in some kind of authority, even if it's an authority granted by ourselves.

I think DCC made the right decision, I'm just interested in the delight it engenders among GAA members. I don't have the stomach for the predictable GAA-bashing we're going to get for the next while from the usual quarters. Don't for God's sake switch on Livewhine today.
Schadenfreude

What the most successful organisation on the Island of Ireland trying to exploit its own resources for financial gain,  for the GAA as a whole and as such every club across the country?

Oh they are so evil  >:(
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: Under Lights on July 03, 2014, 01:25:54 PM
That's johnny cash

Damn- you're right- anyone want my tickets for the Friday?
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: LeoMc on July 03, 2014, 01:26:58 PM
Someone give me a good Gareth Brooks related pun for this news.

Im sure Tony will attempt it by starting  new thread on the subject.
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: AZOffaly on July 03, 2014, 01:27:12 PM
Probably should have had a garth brooks motion at congress to make sure everyone was ok with it  ::)

They applied for concert licenses and overshot the runway. It happens. Refunds all around and a thriving black market.
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: thejuice on July 03, 2014, 01:27:43 PM
For Ballinaman being from Mayo, I imagine it's just nice to have won something.
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: ballinaman on July 03, 2014, 01:29:39 PM
For Ballinaman being from Mayo, I imagine it's just nice to have won something.
Ah I'm grand..2005 is keeping me going too...


Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: LeoMc on July 03, 2014, 01:30:33 PM
What is it in our nature that delights in seeing an organisation getting something wrong, even if it's an organisation we belong to, even if it ultimately means everybody in organisation loses out to some extent?

I reckon the 800 years has ingrained such a devotion to anarchy that we just like to see things going wrong for any person or body seen to be in some kind of authority, even if it's an authority granted by ourselves.

I think DCC made the right decision, I'm just interested in the delight it engenders among GAA members. I don't have the stomach for the predictable GAA-bashing we're going to get for the next while from the usual quarters. Don't for God's sake switch on Livewhine today.

I thought Croke Park were just renting out the venue and it was Aiken Promotions who got it wrong.  Are CP actually the promoters?
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: AZOffaly on July 03, 2014, 01:44:30 PM
Aiken are the promoters. Croke Park just rented them a venue. But sure it's all Croke Park and the greedy GAA's fault.
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: WT4E on July 03, 2014, 01:44:49 PM
Someone give me a good Gareth Brooks related pun for this news.

What about:

"If tomorrow and the next day never comes!"

OR

We Shall Be Three

First one a good one- I went for Ring Of Fire Extinguished.

I think you meant to say "Standing outside the Gates of Croker"
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: Under Lights on July 03, 2014, 01:45:35 PM
Someone give me a good Gareth Brooks related pun for this news.

What about:

"If tomorrow and the next day never comes!"

OR

We Shall Be Three

First one a good one- I went for Ring Of Fire Extinguished.

I think you meant to say "Standing outside the Gates of Croker"

Sure. That's what I meant.
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: joemamas on July 03, 2014, 01:54:37 PM
What is it in our nature that delights in seeing an organisation getting something wrong, even if it's an organisation we belong to, even if it ultimately means everybody in organisation loses out to some extent?

I reckon the 800 years has ingrained such a devotion to anarchy that we just like to see things going wrong for any person or body seen to be in some kind of authority, even if it's an authority granted by ourselves.

I think DCC made the right decision, I'm just interested in the delight it engenders among GAA members. I don't have the stomach for the predictable GAA-bashing we're going to get for the next while from the usual quarters. Don't for God's sake switch on Livewhine today.

From the very outside looking in, five nights appeared to be OTT, especially in light of the one direction concerts a few months ago.
I think part of whole mindset issue is the socialist type of mentality that exists in Ireland and other places in Europe.
I often get the impression that a lot, not all Irish people would prefer to see people in business fail rather than succeed.
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: Zip Code on July 03, 2014, 01:58:30 PM
I'd say Garth is Mr Blue now with the big pay day no More Than a Memory.  Hopefully the residents don't regret Burning Bridges as Wild Horses couldn't get Garth to come back to Ireland now.  :o
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: laoislad on July 03, 2014, 02:08:39 PM
Fecking disgrace.
I think everyone should just turn up on the Monday and Tuesday night anyway just to piss the residents off.
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: Shamrock Shore on July 03, 2014, 02:16:40 PM
I blame the Dubs.

If they took leave of Croke Park and played a few feckin games down the bog then the residents may not have had such a hump.

Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: deiseach on July 03, 2014, 02:17:15 PM
laoislad has been arrested for taking a dump in the garden of one of the residents around Croke Park. When it was put to him that this was an extreme way of protesting at the cancelled Garth Brooks concerts, he replied "there's a protest?"
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: Premier Emperor on July 03, 2014, 02:21:26 PM
I presume the locals have lost on their big pay off and free tickets to tout now?
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: Asal Mor on July 03, 2014, 02:26:36 PM
laoislad has been arrested for taking a dump in the garden of one of the residents around Croke Park. When it was put to him that this was an extreme way of protesting at the cancelled Garth Brooks concerts, he replied "there's a protest?"

 ;D
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: balladmaker on July 03, 2014, 02:37:00 PM
Premium tickets for the 3 nights are still on sale via Ticketmaster, just in case you're after some ;-)
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: Under Lights on July 03, 2014, 02:42:03 PM
Can we start having a few hard luck stories in here soon?
I want to hear about people who missed out on the early shows- particularly people sat out in queues- the sorrow they felt when they didnt get them- then the new announcement- prayers answered- got them. Now this. Might get you a spot on the x-factor.
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: From the Bunker on July 03, 2014, 02:43:17 PM
Listening to Joe Duffy. Comedy gold!
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: thebigfella on July 03, 2014, 02:46:10 PM
I presume the locals have lost on their big pay off and free tickets to tout now?

The residents don't get tickets. A small amount are allocated to residents association which then are allocated through a lottery.

I hope the council stick to the decision now. All joking aside the residents are right to be completely fcuked off at 5 nights in a row of all the disruptions.
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: deiseach on July 03, 2014, 02:47:47 PM
Listening to Joe Duffy. Comedy gold!

I'll take your word for it.
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: WT4E on July 03, 2014, 02:59:26 PM
I presume the locals have lost on their big pay off and free tickets to tout now?

The residents don't get tickets. A small amount are allocated to residents association which then are allocated through a lottery.

I hope the council stick to the decision now. All joking aside the residents are right to be completely fcuked off at 5 nights in a row of all the disruptions.

Well I know of someone who was just working in the area and she was there the week before the 1D concert and a relations popped in to the shop and offered her as many tickets as they wanted (within reason). She had a book of them just giving them out to keep people sweet!
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: ballinaman on July 03, 2014, 03:03:14 PM
I presume the locals have lost on their big pay off and free tickets to tout now?

The residents don't get tickets. A small amount are allocated to residents association which then are allocated through a lottery.

I hope the council stick to the decision now. All joking aside the residents are right to be completely fcuked off at 5 nights in a row of all the disruptions.

Well I know of someone who was just working in the area and she was there the week before the 1D concert and a relations popped in to the shop and offered her as many tickets as they wanted (within reason). She had a book of them just giving them out to keep people sweet!

Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: deiseach on July 03, 2014, 03:07:38 PM
I presume the locals have lost on their big pay off and free tickets to tout now?

The residents don't get tickets. A small amount are allocated to residents association which then are allocated through a lottery.

I hope the council stick to the decision now. All joking aside the residents are right to be completely fcuked off at 5 nights in a row of all the disruptions.

Well I know of someone who was just working in the area and she was there the week before the 1D concert and a relations popped in to the shop and offered her as many tickets as they wanted (within reason). She had a book of them just giving them out to keep people sweet!



Yeah, that story does have echoes of those tales of asylum seekers buying cars using health board cheques!
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: thebigfella on July 03, 2014, 03:08:38 PM
I presume the locals have lost on their big pay off and free tickets to tout now?

The residents don't get tickets. A small amount are allocated to residents association which then are allocated through a lottery.

I hope the council stick to the decision now. All joking aside the residents are right to be completely fcuked off at 5 nights in a row of all the disruptions.

Well I know of someone who was just working in the area and she was there the week before the 1D concert and a relations popped in to the shop and offered her as many tickets as they wanted (within reason). She had a book of them just giving them out to keep people sweet!

Aren't you great.......  ::)

As I say you are not guaranteed tickets for living in the area. The tickets are allocated to the residents association and even then it less than the number of members.
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: thebigfella on July 03, 2014, 03:09:22 PM
I presume the locals have lost on their big pay off and free tickets to tout now?

The residents don't get tickets. A small amount are allocated to residents association which then are allocated through a lottery.

I hope the council stick to the decision now. All joking aside the residents are right to be completely fcuked off at 5 nights in a row of all the disruptions.

Well I know of someone who was just working in the area and she was there the week before the 1D concert and a relations popped in to the shop and offered her as many tickets as they wanted (within reason). She had a book of them just giving them out to keep people sweet!



Yeah, that story does have echoes of those tales of asylum seekers buying cars using health board cheques!

Yep it's sounds like pure lies.
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: magpie seanie on July 03, 2014, 05:54:02 PM
I couldn't give a rats ass about Garth Brooks, the people that go to see him or "the residents" whoever they are. I'm just disappointed that it means less money to be shared out among GAA clubs up and down the country to improve facilities.
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: WT4E on July 03, 2014, 05:56:47 PM
I'm only sharing a story not trying to sound 'Great'. I was one who got use of the tickets! lol
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: Syferus on July 03, 2014, 08:31:00 PM
It will be a black mark on Dublin and Ireland as a location for major concerts if the council don't cop on. Way too late in the day for this shite.
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: Boycey on July 03, 2014, 08:41:31 PM
It will be a black mark on Dublin and Ireland as a location for major concerts if the council don't cop on. Way too late in the day for this shite.

I have to say I'd think a solution/compromise will be reached to allow all concerts to take place but to lay the blame at the door of the council is wrong.
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: macdanger2 on July 03, 2014, 09:10:28 PM

As I understand it, Croke Park had previously agreed with the residents for 3 non-GAA events per year. Someone in the GAA then decided to completely disregard this agreement and have 8 concerts plus the American football this summer.

Personally I'd be 100% on the side of the residents on this, regardless of the benefits which would be expected to trickle down
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: From the Bunker on July 03, 2014, 09:23:57 PM

As I understand it, Croke Park had previously agreed with the residents for 3 non-GAA events per year. Someone in the GAA then decided to completely disregard this agreement and have 8 concerts plus the American football this summer.

Personally I'd be 100% on the side of the residents on this, regardless of the benefits which would be expected to trickle down
There is a bit of the Bully boy tactics here from the GAA. I guess they thought that with 160,000 people involved, the residents and the council would give in. How was it allowed to be this late before the licence was or was not granted? Did the GAA think by applying so late that the council would give into the pressure in such a situation?

Contrary to popular belief this is a victory for the common man.
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: THE MIGHTY QUINN on July 03, 2014, 09:30:11 PM
Personally I wouldn't go to the back door the hear Garth Brooks but I think the GAA has rights as well. It has an asset that it wants to use to its full potential but the residents seem able to hold it to ransom.
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: Syferus on July 03, 2014, 09:37:40 PM

As I understand it, Croke Park had previously agreed with the residents for 3 non-GAA events per year. Someone in the GAA then decided to completely disregard this agreement and have 8 concerts plus the American football this summer.

Personally I'd be 100% on the side of the residents on this, regardless of the benefits which would be expected to trickle down
There is a bit of the Bully boy tactics here from the GAA. I guess they thought that with 160,000 people involved, the residents and the council would give in. How was it allowed to be this late before the licence was or was not granted? Did the GAA think by applying so late that the council would give into the pressure in such a situation?

Contrary to popular belief this is a victory for the common man.

Again, the fúcking 82,000-seater stadium didn't materialise in their back gardens over-night. You take the nice cosy de-valuation in house prices or rents when you're coming in because of the stadium and then you turn around and start back-biting at it. If you can't hack the crowds why did you choose to live there?

The GAA and the promoters shouldn't be having this sort of trouble hosting a few concerts in their own stadium, regardless of agreements. Three concerts is a minuscule amount a year for the biggest stadium in the country in the first place.

It's a victory for lads with too much time on their hands.
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: Maguire01 on July 03, 2014, 09:40:29 PM

As I understand it, Croke Park had previously agreed with the residents for 3 non-GAA events per year. Someone in the GAA then decided to completely disregard this agreement and have 8 concerts plus the American football this summer.

Personally I'd be 100% on the side of the residents on this, regardless of the benefits which would be expected to trickle down
There is a bit of the Bully boy tactics here from the GAA. I guess they thought that with 160,000 people involved, the residents and the council would give in. How was it allowed to be this late before the licence was or was not granted? Did the GAA think by applying so late that the council would give into the pressure in such a situation?

Contrary to popular belief this is a victory for the common man.
The GAA don't apply for any licence, that's the job of the promoter. This isn't a GAA gig - all they're doing is renting the stadium to Aiken for a fee.
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: macdanger2 on July 03, 2014, 09:45:42 PM

As I understand it, Croke Park had previously agreed with the residents for 3 non-GAA events per year. Someone in the GAA then decided to completely disregard this agreement and have 8 concerts plus the American football this summer.

Personally I'd be 100% on the side of the residents on this, regardless of the benefits which would be expected to trickle down
There is a bit of the Bully boy tactics here from the GAA. I guess they thought that with 160,000 people involved, the residents and the council would give in. How was it allowed to be this late before the licence was or was not granted? Did the GAA think by applying so late that the council would give into the pressure in such a situation?

Contrary to popular belief this is a victory for the common man.

Again, the fúcking 82,000-seater stadium didn't materialise in their back gardens over-night. You take the nice cosy de-valuation in house prices or rents when you're coming in because of the stadium and then you turn around and start back-biting at it. If you can't hack the crowds why did you choose to live there?

The GAA and the promoters shouldn't be having this sort of trouble hosting a few concerts in their own stadium, regardless of agreements. Three concerts is a tiny amount a year for the biggest stadium in the country in the first place.

It's a victory for lads with too much time on their hands.

Tbf, if the gaa agreed to 3 per year then surely they should have been willing to stand by it instead of unilaterally tripling the agreed amount. A bit of integrity when dealing with the residents would go a long way to building some sort of trust
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: From the Bunker on July 03, 2014, 09:47:01 PM

As I understand it, Croke Park had previously agreed with the residents for 3 non-GAA events per year. Someone in the GAA then decided to completely disregard this agreement and have 8 concerts plus the American football this summer.

Personally I'd be 100% on the side of the residents on this, regardless of the benefits which would be expected to trickle down
There is a bit of the Bully boy tactics here from the GAA. I guess they thought that with 160,000 people involved, the residents and the council would give in. How was it allowed to be this late before the licence was or was not granted? Did the GAA think by applying so late that the council would give into the pressure in such a situation?

Contrary to popular belief this is a victory for the common man.
The GAA don't apply for any licence, that's the job of the promoter. This isn't a GAA gig - all they're doing is renting the stadium to Aiken for a fee.
Fair enough. Have to say I'd still think that the residents and council were being bullied!
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: Syferus on July 03, 2014, 09:51:59 PM

As I understand it, Croke Park had previously agreed with the residents for 3 non-GAA events per year. Someone in the GAA then decided to completely disregard this agreement and have 8 concerts plus the American football this summer.

Personally I'd be 100% on the side of the residents on this, regardless of the benefits which would be expected to trickle down
There is a bit of the Bully boy tactics here from the GAA. I guess they thought that with 160,000 people involved, the residents and the council would give in. How was it allowed to be this late before the licence was or was not granted? Did the GAA think by applying so late that the council would give into the pressure in such a situation?

Contrary to popular belief this is a victory for the common man.

Again, the fúcking 82,000-seater stadium didn't materialise in their back gardens over-night. You take the nice cosy de-valuation in house prices or rents when you're coming in because of the stadium and then you turn around and start back-biting at it. If you can't hack the crowds why did you choose to live there?

The GAA and the promoters shouldn't be having this sort of trouble hosting a few concerts in their own stadium, regardless of agreements. Three concerts is a tiny amount a year for the biggest stadium in the country in the first place.

It's a victory for lads with too much time on their hands.

Tbf, if the gaa agreed to 3 per year then surely they should have been willing to stand by it instead of unilaterally tripling the agreed amount. A bit of integrity when dealing with the residents would go a long way to building some sort of trust

Same as any agreement, things change. Do footballers honour their contracts? There's many, many cases of agreements being broken for expediency.

I'm sure when they agreed to three concerts there was no thought paid to the idea of Gareth Brooks being able to probably sell out a month-long stand in Croke Park.

The residents should get a better deal for themselves because the agreement needs to be changed but they shouldn't be standing in the way of it happening.
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: Boycey on July 03, 2014, 09:58:35 PM

As I understand it, Croke Park had previously agreed with the residents for 3 non-GAA events per year. Someone in the GAA then decided to completely disregard this agreement and have 8 concerts plus the American football this summer.

Personally I'd be 100% on the side of the residents on this, regardless of the benefits which would be expected to trickle down
There is a bit of the Bully boy tactics here from the GAA. I guess they thought that with 160,000 people involved, the residents and the council would give in. How was it allowed to be this late before the licence was or was not granted? Did the GAA think by applying so late that the council would give into the pressure in such a situation?

Contrary to popular belief this is a victory for the common man.

Again, the fúcking 82,000-seater stadium didn't materialise in their back gardens over-night. You take the nice cosy de-valuation in house prices or rents when you're coming in because of the stadium and then you turn around and start back-biting at it. If you can't hack the crowds why did you choose to live there?

The GAA and the promoters shouldn't be having this sort of trouble hosting a few concerts in their own stadium, regardless of agreements. Three concerts is a minuscule amount a year for the biggest stadium in the country in the first place.

It's a victory for lads with too much time on their hands.

Thats a very narrowminded attitude.

5 nights in a row is hardly a minuscule amount of time is it? Where would you draw the line? 10 nights? 20 nights? I'm sure the disruption is pretty severe over a five day period as opposed to say a normal matchday disruption.

Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: Hereiam on July 03, 2014, 10:02:13 PM
I say if it get Dregish GFC a level pitch then let them play 365 days a year.
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on July 03, 2014, 10:02:28 PM
This was nothing more than Croke Park and Aiken promotions trying to force through extra concerts without seeking any agreement from either the residents or the council. And getting a root up the hole for their troubles.

If you don't want to honour an agreement don't agree to it in the first place. You can't agree to 3 concerts a year and suddenly decide, f**k it, let's put on 8.
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: Farrandeelin on July 03, 2014, 10:19:34 PM
Fecking disgrace.
I think everyone should just turn up on the Monday and Tuesday night anyway just to piss the residents off.

That would be class! ;D
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: ballinaman on July 03, 2014, 10:20:35 PM
Breaking : Statement from Brooks, cancelling the 5 gigs.


This should be fun
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: imtommygunn on July 03, 2014, 10:21:50 PM
All or nothing says garth.

He'd fit in well up north with those tactics...
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: Farrandeelin on July 03, 2014, 10:23:17 PM
Breaking : Statement from Brooks, cancelling the 5 gigs.


This should be fun

Really?
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: imtommygunn on July 03, 2014, 10:24:37 PM
Only threats thus far i thought?
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: Kimbap on July 03, 2014, 10:34:09 PM

As I understand it, Croke Park had previously agreed with the residents for 3 non-GAA events per year. Someone in the GAA then decided to completely disregard this agreement and have 8 concerts plus the American football this summer.

Personally I'd be 100% on the side of the residents on this, regardless of the benefits which would be expected to trickle down
There is a bit of the Bully boy tactics here from the GAA. I guess they thought that with 160,000 people involved, the residents and the council would give in. How was it allowed to be this late before the licence was or was not granted? Did the GAA think by applying so late that the council would give into the pressure in such a situation?

Contrary to popular belief this is a victory for the common man.

Again, the fúcking 82,000-seater stadium didn't materialise in their back gardens over-night. You take the nice cosy de-valuation in house prices or rents when you're coming in because of the stadium and then you turn around and start back-biting at it. If you can't hack the crowds why did you choose to live there?

The GAA and the promoters shouldn't be having this sort of trouble hosting a few concerts in their own stadium, regardless of agreements. Three concerts is a tiny amount a year for the biggest stadium in the country in the first place.

It's a victory for lads with too much time on their hands.

Tbf, if the gaa agreed to 3 per year then surely they should have been willing to stand by it instead of unilaterally tripling the agreed amount. A bit of integrity when dealing with the residents would go a long way to building some sort of trust

Same as any agreement, things change. Do footballers honour their contracts? There's many, many cases of agreements being broken for expediency.

I'm sure when they agreed to three concerts there was no thought paid to the idea of Gareth Brooks being able to probably sell out a month-long stand in Croke Park.

The residents should get a better deal for themselves because the agreement needs to be changed but they shouldn't be standing in the way of it happening.

Yes,let professional footballers (I presume thats what you're rambling on about) be our moral compass.If they do it,it ok.
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: ballinaman on July 03, 2014, 10:35:10 PM
Nope, Garth has the hump..all 5 or none he says.


When this filters through tonight..going to be fun. We needed a new Saipan
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: Farrandeelin on July 03, 2014, 10:39:58 PM
As they say on MUFC/LFC threads... Source?
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: rodney trotter on July 03, 2014, 10:42:23 PM
http://t.co/a4yeklxqf9
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: laoislad on July 03, 2014, 10:43:28 PM
As they say on MUFC threads... Source?
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: INDIANA on July 03, 2014, 10:46:08 PM
No sympathy for Croke Park on this one. They were unbelievably arrogant in assuming they'd get planning for this.

Its their fault and nobody else's. Not fair to blame the residents in my view.
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: Maguire01 on July 03, 2014, 10:48:45 PM
No sympathy for Croke Park on this one. They were unbelievably arrogant in assuming they'd get planning for this.

Its their fault and nobody else's. Not fair to blame the residents in my view.
Once again... it isn't Croke Park's responsibility to secure a licence, it's the promoter's.
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: Hereiam on July 03, 2014, 10:50:05 PM
Akien's has a get out clause - on the tickets it states "subject to licence" so does this mean there will be no refund.
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: ballinaman on July 03, 2014, 10:52:07 PM
I wonder how much interest had been earned on the ticket sales thus far? Few quid anyway
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: macdanger2 on July 03, 2014, 10:52:42 PM


http://m.rte.ie/news/touch/2014/0703/628237-garth-brooks/
 (http://m.rte.ie/news/touch/2014/0703/628237-garth-brooks/)
 Brinkmanship on behalf of the promoters??
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: Maguire01 on July 03, 2014, 10:54:43 PM
Akien's has a get out clause - on the tickets it states "subject to licence" so does this mean there will be no refund.
No.
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: INDIANA on July 03, 2014, 10:57:01 PM
No sympathy for Croke Park on this one. They were unbelievably arrogant in assuming they'd get planning for this.

Its their fault and nobody else's. Not fair to blame the residents in my view.
Once again... it isn't Croke Park's responsibility to secure a licence, it's the promoter's.

They had their quota of 3 concerts. they pushed their luck.
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: manfromdelmonte on July 03, 2014, 11:00:59 PM
I blame GAA employee Peter McKenna for a lot of this

He has been picking fights with the local residents and being very antagonistic over their community centre in the Irish Handball centre for the last 5 years. The GAA have deliberately run down the building (no maintenance or investment) in order to get hold of the land it sits on.
He has no goodwill amongst the locals (some of whom are involved in handball)


Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: rodney trotter on July 03, 2014, 11:09:38 PM
McKenna is full of himself.
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: rrhf on July 03, 2014, 11:11:23 PM
I understand the frustrations of some genuine locals, and it is entirely understandable that brooks will call the whole set of gigs off which is no bluff or bully tactic.  This has happened and that's that. It is equally as amazing to see those laughing at the gaa on this who are supposed gaa people.  This is a major loss of revenue to a struggling Ireland and  an ever expanding association and whilst the promoter will have his behind covered on this the gaa might not.  There could be lots of court action yet and it could cost millions to rectify.  Residents who live around an 80k stadium should not have the say anymore in what's good for the country or not.  Does that mean they are offered a one off movement incentive and   I'd imagine the stadium manager will be the fall guy here and may currently be in an untenable position.. brooks will move on and play somewhere else and that will be that.  Casement park better watch out.   Madness and shows how well this country had been run.
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: BennyCake on July 03, 2014, 11:15:15 PM
"I have faith that Dublin City Council will make the best decision for the people of Ireland."

That would mean no concerts, wouldn't it?  ;D
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: ONeill on July 03, 2014, 11:17:23 PM
Is Brooks bigger than God?
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: THE MIGHTY QUINN on July 03, 2014, 11:19:20 PM
I say if it get Dregish GFC a level pitch then let them play 365 days a year.
Best quote on this thread. This is what it is all about. Croke Park has the potential to earn money which can be pumped back into the game at grassroots level. To lister to some of the gloaters on here you'd swear the GAA was drinking the money
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: BennyCake on July 03, 2014, 11:20:21 PM
Is Brooks bigger than God?

Maybe if he's wearing his hat, he is  ;)
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: Itchy on July 03, 2014, 11:20:41 PM
I'd rather have drunken Dublin fans pissing in my letterbox rather than have to hear that horrible git playing 5 nights in a row on my door step. Ive no doubt his threat to not play at all is a bluff. He wouldn't get crowds like that anywhere else.
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: BennyHarp on July 03, 2014, 11:23:46 PM
I say if it get Dregish GFC a level pitch then let them play 365 days a year.
Best quote on this thread. This is what it is all about. Croke Park has the potential to earn money which can be pumped back into the game at grassroots level. To lister to some of the gloaters on here you'd swear the GAA was drinking the money

I misread that quote first time round and thought it was suggesting that Brooks could play his concerts in Dregish. Maybe that is a solution?
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: THE MIGHTY QUINN on July 03, 2014, 11:29:26 PM
I say if it get Dregish GFC a level pitch then let them play 365 days a year.
Best quote on this thread. This is what it is all about. Croke Park has the potential to earn money which can be pumped back into the game at grassroots level. To lister to some of the gloaters on here you'd swear the GAA was drinking the money

True. We really need you, Garth.

What a fcukin failure we are.......we've now turned to whoring.
You are a very angry man
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: ONeill on July 03, 2014, 11:34:49 PM
I say if it get Dregish GFC a level pitch then let them play 365 days a year.
Best quote on this thread. This is what it is all about. Croke Park has the potential to earn money which can be pumped back into the game at grassroots level. To lister to some of the gloaters on here you'd swear the GAA was drinking the money

True. We really need you, Garth.

What a fcukin failure we are.......we've now turned to whoring.
You are a very angry man

He's not. This isn't important. Really.
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: give her dixie on July 03, 2014, 11:37:38 PM
No sympathy for Croke Park on this one. They were unbelievably arrogant in assuming they'd get planning for this.

Its their fault and nobody else's. Not fair to blame the residents in my view.
Once again... it isn't Croke Park's responsibility to secure a licence, it's the promoter's.

They had their quota of 3 concerts. they pushed their luck.

+1 To the best of my knowledge the deal with the residents was 3 concerts per year.

This year they have the 5 Brooks concerts, the One Direction gigs, and a US football game.

Didn't McKenna tell the residents that that was an old deal, and it isn't valid anymore?

Casement residents beware......

If I lived there, I would be pissed off as well.
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: Mayo4Sam on July 03, 2014, 11:44:41 PM
Nope, Garth has the hump..all 5 or none he says.


When this filters through tonight..going to be fun. We needed a new Saipan

He sounded a right knob on the news, how he really appreciates the Irish
If he did then he'd come and play his three gigs and shut his hole
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: Bord na Mona man on July 03, 2014, 11:47:44 PM
The residents should have been sweetened up before the extra concert dates were sold. The 500k bung for example, or the promise of no concerts next year.  It was always likely to end in tears acting in such a presumptious manner.
While there are several chancers and scammers at the fore of these residents groups, it is a significant imposition on people to have 5 consecutive nights of concerts.
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: Itchy on July 03, 2014, 11:48:26 PM
Nope, Garth has the hump..all 5 or none he says.


When this filters through tonight..going to be fun. We needed a new Saipan

He sounded a right knob on the news, how he really appreciates the Irish
If he did then he'd come and play his three gigs and shut his hole

No it would be better if he shut his hole forever, fullstop... And broke his fingers.
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: Bord na Mona man on July 03, 2014, 11:49:13 PM
Nope, Garth has the hump..all 5 or none he says.


When this filters through tonight..going to be fun. We needed a new Saipan

He sounded a right knob on the news, how he really appreciates the Irish
If he did then he'd come and play his three gigs and shut his hole
I'm sure he's acting on the instructions of the promoters.
The threat of all 5 gigs being cancelled puts the heat on the Croke Park residents.
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: ballinaman on July 03, 2014, 11:52:09 PM
Nope, Garth has the hump..all 5 or none he says.


When this filters through tonight..going to be fun. We needed a new Saipan

He sounded a right knob on the news, how he really appreciates the Irish
If he did then he'd come and play his three gigs and shut his hole

I'm sure he's acting on the instructions of the promoters.
The threat of all 5 gigs being cancelled puts the heat on the Croke Park residents.
No surrender...I'm actually on holidays for the week it's on . I'm just like the idea of giving 2 fingers to "the man".
Not done often enough in Ireland.
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: Wildweasel74 on July 03, 2014, 11:52:36 PM
Promotor got all he deserved with this one, pity he take no responsibility for the mess, sorry for the fans but i think 5 nights of Brooks would be too much for anybody, not sure where the gaa pump this money to grass roots level, Don't Matter will be quick to point out it ain't Carlow, letrim, Longford or the places it should be going to and likely the Dubs lol.
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: Wildweasel74 on July 03, 2014, 11:55:27 PM
The GAA isn't here to provide £50million to the economic, leave that for politicans to sort out
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: Wildweasel74 on July 04, 2014, 12:03:16 AM
Alot of people looking concerts in croker are the same people which had a problem with soccer been played there for the same rental charges if not more.
I think when the GAA was formed in 1884 it was to promote Gaelic games  which it should focus on and not get sidetracked on areas to make a quick buck,
i hate it that's they say they are a amateur organisation when we paid managers, officials, trainers, just about everybody but players, cant work out how we
can be classified as a amateur organisation any more
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: thebigfella on July 04, 2014, 12:13:11 AM
It's amazing the amount of people I see giving out about orange order blocking roads, disrupting towns etc.... but god help the residents round Croke park objecting to 5 concerts in a row and the impact to them. Bundle of hypocrites in cowboy boots.
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: theskull1 on July 04, 2014, 12:28:15 AM
It's amazing the amount of people I see giving out about orange order blocking roads, disrupting towns etc.... but god help the residents round Croke park objecting to 5 concerts in a row and the impact to them. Bundle of hypocrites in cowboy boots.

Indeed...don't expect them to accept that point though

Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: rrhf on July 04, 2014, 06:38:55 AM
Casement residents & Croke Park residents would be fairly closely linked.
In what ways?
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: THE MIGHTY QUINN on July 04, 2014, 08:27:24 AM
Casement residents & Croke Park residents would be fairly closely linked.
In what ways?
In that they're both a small bunch of bullies prepared to use their position to thwart and stymie plans which can benefit the many
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: haranguerer on July 04, 2014, 08:35:09 AM
In fairness if you moved in next door to an orange lodge not too many would listen to your complaints...

There has to be respect for the residents, and I can understand if its the straw that broke the camels back. All the issues should have been pre-resolved, and this can be an opportunity to attempt to resolve them. The residents are in an incredible bargaining position here, assuming that if they were to withdraw their objections, DCC could alter their decision - is that the case does anyone know?
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: haranguerer on July 04, 2014, 08:47:52 AM
In fairness if you moved in next door to an orange lodge not too many would listen to your complaints...

If you buy a house on a "traditional Orange Route", the Parades Commission sometimes listen to your concerns. No?

A traditional orange route, and next door to the lodge, are two different things. As is people heading down your street to watch a concert, and people heading down your street roaring sectarian abuse and generally wrecking the place.

Either way, I'm advocating agreement, just saying comparing the two is ott.
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: Premier Emperor on July 04, 2014, 09:24:55 AM
Casement residents & Croke Park residents would be fairly closely linked.
Sinn Fein are lurking in the background agitating a lot of this.
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: haranguerer on July 04, 2014, 09:25:18 AM
Do the OO generally wreck the place? I'd say concert goers do a better job at that.

Also, there is an agreement here. One side is just looking to break it this time, hence the row.

I understand you are very sympathetic due to the social club situation, but you shouldnt let it cloud your senses to the extent that you latch on to stupid analogies. But to use the one you have latched onto, the OO would be more Garth Brooks, and I think its unlikely he'll p*ss in anyones garden. And I'd have much more faith in concert goers not wrecking the place, than I would those supporters that follow the parades. There is a fair bit of evidence that would support that view too.

If there is an agreement, then certainly, it should have been honoured. And if there wasn't an agreement, then there should have been .

You would think though, that people would start writing these agreements down - its been an accepted way of recording such for centuries, and would save an awful lot of hassle, in an awful lot of instances.
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: manfromdelmonte on July 04, 2014, 09:40:30 AM
Casement residents & Croke Park residents would be fairly closely linked.
Sinn Fein are lurking in the background agitating a lot of this.

prove it
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: haranguerer on July 04, 2014, 10:05:08 AM
Do the OO generally wreck the place? I'd say concert goers do a better job at that.

Also, there is an agreement here. One side is just looking to break it this time, hence the row.

I understand you are very sympathetic due to the social club situation, but you shouldnt let it cloud your senses to the extent that you latch on to stupid analogies. But to use the one you have latched onto, the OO would be more Garth Brooks, and I think its unlikely he'll p*ss in anyones garden. And I'd have much more faith in concert goers not wrecking the place, than I would those supporters that follow the parades. There is a fair bit of evidence that would support that view too.

If there is an agreement, then certainly, it should have been honoured. And if there wasn't an agreement, then there should have been .

You would think though, that people would start writing these agreements down - its been an accepted way of recording such for centuries, and would save an awful lot of hassle, in an awful lot of instances.
To be fair, you brought up the OO, not me. Also, I don't think the OO are wanting their supporters to be walking up the Crumlin Road, just their bands, who are very unlikely to do any wrecking.

Na, I was responding to a few posts which had brought it up.

The point is, there needs to be agreement, and it needs to be nailed down, so that there can be no ambiguity. I dont want to see anyone walked over, but neither do I want to see a situation like this.

Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: NAG1 on July 04, 2014, 10:48:41 AM
Casement residents & Croke Park residents would be fairly closely linked.
Sinn Fein are lurking in the background agitating a lot of this.
Really? Casement residents & Sinn Fein are very far apart on this issue.

Probably the single dumbest post of the day.

It was a SF minister that approved the funding for Casement and they pushed for it to be in West Belfast.
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on July 04, 2014, 10:49:57 AM
Derry CCC have fixed some of the senior hurling championship games midweek to allow players to attend Garth Brooks(or Gareth Brooks as they called him)
Now I have no major problem with that in itself but it flies in the face of everything they have done before.

Can you imagine if the matches were due to clash with Oxygen for example. There is no way matches would be re-arranged. Country Bumkinism gone mad.
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: Clinker on July 04, 2014, 11:07:00 AM

Sinn Fein are lurking in the background agitating a lot of this.


They lost a council seat in the Casement area to People Before Profit over the current plans for Casement.
Stop making up rubbish.
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: balladmaker on July 04, 2014, 11:18:55 AM
So DCC say it's 3 concerts and not 5
Garth says its 5 concerts or none at all
Aiken is saying not an awful lot other than Garth is devastated.
The only say that matters is that of DCC.

Well, Mr. Aiken, it is your business that is the cause of Garth's devastation (I'm sure he'll get over it).  Time to pony up and refund all tickets for the Monday and Tuesday night, rather than trying to get a second decision by bringing pressure onto DCC and the residents.  You'll know for the next time not to sell something that you had no right to sell.

And yes, I'm speaking as a holder of 2 tickets for the Tuesday night.  Given the negativity around the whole event now, I'd prefer a refund than going to a rearranged show.  It isn't on for the event promoter to play dumb saying they don't know what the situation currently is ... it's pretty obvious to everyone else that 2 shows are cancelled.

Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: Zip Code on July 04, 2014, 11:24:04 AM
If they switch to AVIVA can folk refuse to go and still get refunds?
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: NAG1 on July 04, 2014, 11:26:11 AM
So DCC say it's 3 concerts and not 5
Garth says its 5 concerts or none at all
Aiken is saying not an awful lot other than Garth is devastated.
The only say that matters is that of DCC.

Well, Mr. Aiken, it is your business that is the cause of Garth's devastation (I'm sure he'll get over it).  Time to pony up and refund all tickets for the Monday and Tuesday night, rather than trying to get a second decision by bringing pressure onto DCC and the residents.  You'll know for the next time not to sell something that you had no right to sell.

And yes, I'm speaking as a holder of 2 tickets for the Tuesday night.  Given the negativity around the whole event now, I'd prefer a refund than going to a rearranged show.  It isn't on for the event promoter to play dumb saying they don't know what the situation currently is ... it's pretty obvious to everyone else that 2 shows are cancelled.

Just wondering what the craic would be for those that have hotels booked and made other financial commitments around attending the concerts, can they seek compensation or is it a tough luck story for them too?
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: Zip Code on July 04, 2014, 11:30:04 AM
Surely you can just cancel the hotel and incur no financial loss.
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: thebigfella on July 04, 2014, 11:31:05 AM
So DCC say it's 3 concerts and not 5
Garth says its 5 concerts or none at all
Aiken is saying not an awful lot other than Garth is devastated.
The only say that matters is that of DCC.

Well, Mr. Aiken, it is your business that is the cause of Garth's devastation (I'm sure he'll get over it).  Time to pony up and refund all tickets for the Monday and Tuesday night, rather than trying to get a second decision by bringing pressure onto DCC and the residents.  You'll know for the next time not to sell something that you had no right to sell.

And yes, I'm speaking as a holder of 2 tickets for the Tuesday night.  Given the negativity around the whole event now, I'd prefer a refund than going to a rearranged show.  It isn't on for the event promoter to play dumb saying they don't know what the situation currently is ... it's pretty obvious to everyone else that 2 shows are cancelled.

Just wondering what the craic would be for those that have hotels booked and made other financial commitments around attending the concerts, can they seek compensation or is it a tough luck story for them too?

No, tickets/event was promoted and sold subject to license. It's in the terms of sale and unfortunately tough luck.
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: balladmaker on July 04, 2014, 11:31:30 AM
I'd say that it's down to the policy of the hotel or whoever they booked with.  If hotels etc. showed good faith, then they might be ok, but that would be a longshot. 

On the other hand, Aiken should do the right thing and compensate, as people are out of money as a result of Aiken Promotions selling the gig. 

Did they break the law by selling the gig?
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: Zip Code on July 04, 2014, 11:34:17 AM
All hotels have a cancellation policy, some 24 hours some 48 hours - so can't see how you would be charged.
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: Under Lights on July 04, 2014, 11:38:30 AM
So DCC say it's 3 concerts and not 5
Garth says its 5 concerts or none at all
Aiken is saying not an awful lot other than Garth is devastated.
The only say that matters is that of DCC.

Well, Mr. Aiken, it is your business that is the cause of Garth's devastation (I'm sure he'll get over it).  Time to pony up and refund all tickets for the Monday and Tuesday night, rather than trying to get a second decision by bringing pressure onto DCC and the residents.  You'll know for the next time not to sell something that you had no right to sell.

And yes, I'm speaking as a holder of 2 tickets for the Tuesday night.  Given the negativity around the whole event now, I'd prefer a refund than going to a rearranged show.  It isn't on for the event promoter to play dumb saying they don't know what the situation currently is ... it's pretty obvious to everyone else that 2 shows are cancelled.

Just wondering what the craic would be for those that have hotels booked and made other financial commitments around attending the concerts, can they seek compensation or is it a tough luck story for them too?

Head down for a dirty few nights with the Mrs regardless.
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: balladmaker on July 04, 2014, 11:39:10 AM
Quote
All hotels have a cancellation policy, some 24 hours some 48 hours - so can't see how you would be charged.

Depends the rate that you would have booked on.  Some are advance purchase to get the best rate, meaning there is no refund once paid for.
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: thebigfella on July 04, 2014, 11:39:17 AM
If Garth is so devastated and wants to not disappoint his fans, I have a solution. He is allowed to perform the 2 shows and all profits after costs go to an agreed upon charity/charities (not the residents fund). If it's all about the fans, let him put his money where his mouth is; otherwise the greedy fat fcuk should shut up and settle for the 3 dates.

Either way he's not going to cancel the 3 concerts and lose out on the cash. There are very few other countries he can sell his bog merchant tripe, so he be best ripping off people performing where he can.
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: screenexile on July 04, 2014, 11:39:43 AM
I'm sure Aiken would have to have some kind of contingency for concerts not being put on. Refund of the ticket would be the most you could expect I would imagine though!

Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: manfromdelmonte on July 04, 2014, 11:45:08 AM
Aiken have made a fortune on the ticket money sitting in a bank account somewhere.

Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: J OGorman on July 04, 2014, 11:53:41 AM
If Garth is so devastated and wants to not disappoint his fans, I have a solution. He is allowed to perform the 2 shows and all profits after costs go to an agreed upon charity/charities (not the residents fund). If it's all about the fans, let him put his money where his mouth is; otherwise the greedy fat fcuk should shut up and settle for the 3 dates.

Either way he's not going to cancel the 3 concerts and lose out on the cash. There are very few other countries he can sell his bog merchant tripe, so he be best ripping off people performing where he can.

Of course Brooks and co would play whatever shows was put in front og them, 5 x 80,000 crowd gigs..sweet lord.
However, the real greed here lays at the feet of Aiken promotions (Croke Pk and the Brooks team not blameless) . MCD, Aiken and Ticketmaster have completely ripped the hole clean out of concert prices for years. Aiken would have pushed the bejesus out of this to get the 3rd, 4th and 5th with their big ally, the shysters at Ticketmaster. Absolute fair play to the residents for standing up for themselves, but at the same time its a balls for those who have booked tix, hotels and of course the thousands flying to Ireland for these shows. Bit of a balls alround
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: haranguerer on July 04, 2014, 12:30:58 PM
If Garth is so devastated and wants to not disappoint his fans, I have a solution. He is allowed to perform the 2 shows and all profits after costs go to an agreed upon charity/charities (not the residents fund). If it's all about the fans, let him put his money where his mouth is; otherwise the greedy fat fcuk should shut up and settle for the 3 dates.


I'd say that is exactly what will happen, but it will be the residents fund
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: The Biff on July 04, 2014, 05:41:19 PM
I'm not sure if this has been mentioned before, but in 2001, U2 sold out a concert in Slane and the clamour rose for a second gig to be put on.

Problem - no Planning Permission for a second concert in Slane in the same year.

Solution - recall the Dáil for an Emergency session in the summer, and rush through emergency legislation to change the Planning Laws just to allow the extra concert.

http://www.atu2.com/news/u2-asked-to-pay-for-second-slane-show.html (http://www.atu2.com/news/u2-asked-to-pay-for-second-slane-show.html)

So if it could happen then, couldn't it happen now?  When the powerful lobby groups get onto Enda & Co about the damage to Ireland's reputation about this new version of "cant organise a piss-up in a brewery", I can see the pressure being put on Aiken Promotions and the GAA to basically concede to run the last few concerts on a break-even basis, and use the extra cash to soften the blow for the local residents.

Everybody has a price.  It's just a case of working out what it is, and finding someone to pay it.  Rules can be changed.  It has happened before; it will happen again.  I reckon these 5 concerts will all go ahead, not because of Garth's ultimatum, but because repairing the international image of "Ireland Inc" (after the Celtic Tiger lost its bite) is too important and too delicate to be let fail.
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: ziggysego on July 04, 2014, 05:52:09 PM
Casement residents & Croke Park residents would be fairly closely linked.
In what ways?
In that they're both a small bunch of bullies prepared to use their position to thwart and stymie plans which can benefit the many

What's a bit of an unfair assessment.
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: THE MIGHTY QUINN on July 04, 2014, 06:21:50 PM
I don't think so
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: From the Bunker on July 04, 2014, 08:51:16 PM
Questions:

Why were tickets sold for concerts that there was no licence for?
What level of noise pollution are there from these concerts?
How restricted are residents to go from and get back to their homes by car by these concerts?
Has there ever been any damage caused to any of the residents due to an event held in Croke Park.
How does the setting up/taking down of the stage, amplifiers etc affect the residents?
Should there be any regard for residents who live near a stadium/venue?
Was there an agreement on the number concerts that could be held in Croke Park each year or was that just here say?
The ticket says that the concert will happen subject to licence. Well there is a licence for 3 concerts. So do the promoters have to fulfill this agreement to do the three nights?
If the Concert is cancelled will the ticket holders get back all of the money they spent on the ticket? The ticket price plus the handling fee?





Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: Tyrone Dreamer on July 04, 2014, 11:52:30 PM
I'm not a garth brooks fan but this is a crazy decision. Given the economic climate over the past few years I can't believe Dublin council is putting something that could generate tens of millions for the city in doubt over 373 complaints. When you consider the number of people living in the area these people aren't even the majority in the area.

People can talk about an agreement in 2009 with the residents but sometimes you have to look at the bigger picture. It's a fact how much money this will generate. 70000 tickets were sold outside Ireland for starters. The majority of these people will need transport, somewhere to stay, food etc. Even internally the concert was encouraging people to spend large sums of money.

400000 tickets sold and it was a great opportunity to promote tourism and bring something positive to Dublin. The complaints look extremely selfish and are taking away a great opportunity for the area. Huge money would or will be spent in the local economy in shops bars restaurants hotels croke park itself which helps drive the economy locally and creat jobs. Plus the gaa was going to directly pump half a million into the area which makes this even more ludicrous.

If this isn't worth a bit of a disruption in the middle of the summer then I don't know what is. Any other part of Ireland would be crying out for the money to come into their area and to show it off. On the Monday and Tuesday night I'm sure the residents could have made alternative arrangements given it was a one off. Leave work early, stay later, or walk into town or to a bus would have been options. And concerts would be over at a reasonable hour so it wouldn't be keeping people up. Would it be to crazy to soak up the atmosphere and buzz they'd bring to the area?

As mentioned there was an agreement a few years ago to cut down the number of concerts in a year, But this really was a one off opportunity to get a world star to kick off his world tour in Ireland. It certainly wouldn't be happening every year. And when you consider back then soccer and rugby were played in croke park there's a lot less disruption these days anyway.

Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: Maguire01 on July 05, 2014, 12:01:43 AM
Questions:

Why were tickets sold for concerts that there was no licence for?
This is standard practice for big outdoor gigs, even festivals.
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: Wildweasel74 on July 05, 2014, 12:42:15 AM
world star, hes done nothing of note for years, think it show the amount of country hillbillies we have in ireland, keep it country lol
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: THE MIGHTY QUINN on July 05, 2014, 09:46:48 AM
Questions:
What level of noise pollution are there from these concerts?
I think it very much depends on who's playing. If it was say the Rolling Stones  or the Killers anything over 100 decibels would be considered unacceptable. As regards Garth Brooks I'd assume anything above 2 or 3 decibels would be pretty intolerable
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: EC Unique on July 05, 2014, 10:25:14 AM
So a man wants to come into Ireland and put on a show. He sells out for 5 nights. He is told he can only do 3 which will mean the local economy will lose out on tens of millions in the middle of a resession. All to keep a few locals happy. Mean while people who have no interest in the show think it is a great laugh to see others disappointed and millions of euros lost. How typically Irish.  :-\
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: cockahoop on July 05, 2014, 11:04:28 AM
Police in Mid-Ulster have admitted they’re at breaking point after it emerged Garth Brooks will not be hosting a 5-day concert series in Croke Park and will be performing for 3 days instead, sparking riotous scenes across Tyrone.

UN troops have been mobilised and are currently making their way across Lough Neagh by boat and are expected to reach the western coast by 5pm GMT,

Local journalists confirmed the first rioting occurred outside a music shop in Coalisland with locals pelting the store with anything that came to hand from children’s dummies to hubcaps. One resident, Ronald McSherry, explained their anger:

“We’ve been talking about this for months now and all for what? 3 lousy days? Personally I’m not going myself as I hate his music but that’s besides the point. We’re being trampled over again and if we don’t stand up to the authorities now it’ll be something else next. Music shops all over the county are going to get some touch tonight.”

When it was explained to McSherry that the music shop in question, Pat’s Island Records, doesn’t sell tickets and just deals in trumpets and bugles he turned on this reporter and accused me of being ‘one of them’.

Riots have also broken out in Cookstown, Omagh, Strabane, Dungannon, Pomeroy and a hedge was set alight in Cappagh. Fire fighters who arrived on the scene to put the fire were pelted with turf by locals singing ‘Friends In Low Places’ in an angry tone.

Deputy First Minister Martin McGuinness has appealed for calm across Mid-Ulster and has promised to put on a free live concert in Donaghmore on those two days featuring Malachi Cush, Hugo Duncan and Philomena Begley, with unlimited hotdogs for all attendees if they stop rioting.

Meanwhile a Garth Brooks spokesman has confirmed, that in order to calm tensions, they’ll possibly consider doing an over-the-Internet concert from his home if riots continue into a second day.
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: THE MIGHTY QUINN on July 05, 2014, 11:58:13 AM
So a man wants to come into Ireland and put on a show. He sells out for 5 nights. He is told he can only do 3 which will mean the local economy will lose out on tens of millions in the middle of a resession. All to keep a few locals happy. Mean while people who have no interest in the show think it is a great laugh to see others disappointed and millions of euros lost. How typically Irish.  :-\
For the first time in my life I agree with you. Don't get me wrong I hate Garth Brooks with a vengeance but each to their own. As I said earlier a few local bullies misuse a position of strength just because they can
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: theskull1 on July 05, 2014, 12:22:37 PM
But we all agree that 3 nights in a row is plenty don't we?

I haven't tickets......is this skewing my perspective I wonder?
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: laoislad on July 05, 2014, 12:26:34 PM
But we all agree that 3 nights in a row is plenty don't we?


No.
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: orangeman on July 05, 2014, 01:40:02 PM
The concert promoter Peter Aiken has said a decision will be made on Tuesday on whether any of the planned Garth Brooks' concerts in Dublin will go ahead.

The US star was due to stage five shows at Croke Park stadium on 25 to 29 July.

Dublin City Council said on Friday that it could not reverse its decision on only allowing three of the concerts to go ahead.

Mr Aiken said he was working to try to get all five concerts staged.

He told RTÉ's radio programme The Business that Aiken Promotions were working "behind the scenes" with the authorities at Croke Park.

Mr Aiken said a final decision would be made on Monday or Tuesday, but said he still had hope that all five would go ahead.

When the council refused permission for two of the dates, Brooks said on Thursday he would do "five shows or none at all".

The US singer compared having to choose between concert dates to being asked "to choose one child over another".
The singer said he had "faith that Dublin City Council will make the best decision for the people of Ireland".
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: muppet on July 05, 2014, 02:42:09 PM
Recently, a developer resubmitted planning for a load of houses near me. A few decent councillors contacted the residents for their opinions. There were many viewpoints, but the overwhelming majority of people focussed on one issue, they wanted the developer to be prohibited from commencing a new development until he had finished, or tidied up, the ghost estate he left rotting beside us for the last 8 years.

The council agreed and made it a restriction on the new development going ahead.

The developer laughed and went to An Bord Pleanála.

They told the developer to do whatever he liked and f*ck the locals.

Aiken should simply go to An Bord Pleanála and ask for 365 concerts.
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: THE MIGHTY QUINN on July 05, 2014, 04:54:23 PM
You would. You'd also be lobbying for things like street lighting etc
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: orangeman on July 06, 2014, 08:43:47 AM
I don't know the intricacies of both but there seem to be some similarities between Casement social club and the handball club ?

http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/community-group-rejected-deal-to-end-croke-park-row-30409649.html
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: manfromdelmonte on July 06, 2014, 09:39:37 AM
I don't know the intricacies of both but there seem to be some similarities between Casement social club and the handball club ?

http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/community-group-rejected-deal-to-end-croke-park-row-30409649.html

not really.
the article doesn't mention that the handball centre is used for a load of other stuff - irish dancing, martial arts, darts, pool, parties, funeral receptions.
as well as handball (though the GAA has run down the centre in the last 15 years in the hope of clearing it)
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: ONeill on July 06, 2014, 10:49:23 PM
HS's a deadly man for the street lighting right enough.
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: easytiger95 on July 07, 2014, 08:55:17 AM
But what can a poor boy do
Except to sing for a rock 'n' roll band
Cause in sleepy Dublin town
There's just no place for a street lighting man
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: Under Lights on July 07, 2014, 04:42:12 PM
I predict all 5 gigs go ahead. Seen some residents petitioning for them to go ahead.
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: balladmaker on July 07, 2014, 04:46:21 PM
Garth Brooks press conference arranged for Thursday, all will be clear by then hopefully ... but unitl then ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7h7AowFrFu0
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: johnneycool on July 07, 2014, 04:55:35 PM
Garth Brooks press conference arranged for Thursday, all will be clear by then hopefully.


Great, I'll not sleep properly before I hear from the fat fúcker big man!!
 :o
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: Bingo on July 07, 2014, 05:13:56 PM



BM bought a Garth Brooks CD at a car boot sale over the weekend and has had a change of heart over the gigs. That's him at the front in the hat and his running vest.
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: laoislad on July 07, 2014, 05:25:55 PM



BM bought a Garth Brooks CD at a car boot sale over the weekend and has had a change of heart over the gigs. That's him at the front in the hat and his running vest.

Looks like the thunder rolls in them clouds behind...
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: Lecale2 on July 07, 2014, 05:26:33 PM
These feckin residents don't know they want!

Yesterday they were protesting for 5 concerts to go ahead. Today they're away down to the Four Courts seeking an injunction to stop any of them goin ahead!!

I just wish they'd make their minds up FFS

Irish Times
"Injunction proceedings were formally lodged at the High Court this afternoon aimed at preventing any of the Garth Brooks shows which had been scheduled for Croke Park later this month from going ahead.

The proceedings are brought in the name of Brian Duff, whose solicitor is named as Anthony Fay, the solicitor acting for some residents of the Croke Park area."

http://www.irishtimes.com/culture/music/court-bid-lodged-to-stop-all-five-garth-brooks-concerts-1.1858325 (http://www.irishtimes.com/culture/music/court-bid-lodged-to-stop-all-five-garth-brooks-concerts-1.1858325)
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: Bingo on July 07, 2014, 05:28:29 PM
These feckin residents don't know they want!

Yesterday they were protesting for 5 concerts to go ahead. Today they're away down to the Four Courts seeking an injunction to stop any of them goin ahead!!

I just wish they'd make their minds up FFS

Irish Times
"Injunction proceedings were formally lodged at the High Court this afternoon aimed at preventing any of the Garth Brooks shows which had been scheduled for Croke Park later this month from going ahead.

The proceedings are brought in the name of Brian Duff, whose solicitor is named as Anthony Fay, the solicitor acting for some residents of the Croke Park area."

http://www.irishtimes.com/culture/music/court-bid-lodged-to-stop-all-five-garth-brooks-concerts-1.1858325 (http://www.irishtimes.com/culture/music/court-bid-lodged-to-stop-all-five-garth-brooks-concerts-1.1858325)

I imagine its very much like this great scene from The Life of Brian http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gb_qHP7VaZE&feature=kp (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gb_qHP7VaZE&feature=kp)
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on July 07, 2014, 06:46:35 PM
They were all given free tickets for the cancelled nights.
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on July 07, 2014, 07:14:27 PM
Quote
RTÉ News@rtenews  ·  7m

Dublin City councillors have voted narrowly in favour of calling for five Garth Brooks concerts to go ahead

Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: ballinaman on July 07, 2014, 10:42:09 PM



BM bought a Garth Brooks CD at a car boot sale over the weekend and has had a change of heart over the gigs. That's him at the front in the hat and his running vest.
;D  ;D ;D

Good lord....some creatures in this debacle.
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: BennyCake on July 07, 2014, 11:01:30 PM
Have it in Dungannon Park. Then the 400,00 fans won't need to travel any distance.
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: moysider on July 07, 2014, 11:25:49 PM

I was always against the redevelopment of Croke Park.

A green field site should have been picked. To have this facility and not been able to use it is risible. With attendences at games so miserable this is an income we cannot afford to lose. To be restricted to 3 gigs or something a year is a laugh. It should be in a location where resident groups would not be an issue.

Tip of the iceberg imo. I expect the number of games played in Croke Park will come under scrutiny now as well.
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: Syferus on July 08, 2014, 12:11:29 AM

I was always against the redevelopment of Croke Park.

A green field site should have been picked. To have this facility and not been able to use it is risible. With attendences at games so miserable this is an income we cannot afford to lose. To be restricted to 3 gigs or something a year is a laugh. It should be in a location where resident groups would not be an issue.

Tip of the iceberg imo. I expect the number of games played in Croke Park will come under scrutiny now as well.

Think it's pretty clear this will swing the other way, the residents' popular support has faded hugely with this debacle and the government must be privately mortified at how this looks. The regulations will be seriously edited when all this dies down.

For all its flaws there's a magic about Jones' Road and its place in GAA history that I wouldn't ever change. Bar buying out and levelling a few streets of houses.
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: orangeman on July 08, 2014, 12:12:25 AM
Out of curiosity, has the Croke park walk around the roof of the stadium been a success or not ?
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: ballinaman on July 08, 2014, 12:24:28 AM

I was always against the redevelopment of Croke Park.

A green field site should have been picked. To have this facility and not been able to use it is risible. With attendences at games so miserable this is an income we cannot afford to lose. To be restricted to 3 gigs or something a year is a laugh. It should be in a location where resident groups would not be an issue.

Tip of the iceberg imo. I expect the number of games played in Croke Park will come under scrutiny now as well.
Match days are not a problem here whatsoever.
Barriers are up from about hour and a half before first game and down usually 45 mins after game has ended. Not much disruption at all. No trouble from crowds at all. So you're talking 5 hrs typically on a Sunday. Don't know if they could play any more games here with current championship and league formats..
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: Clinker on July 08, 2014, 12:28:49 AM
Out of curiosity, has the Croke park walk around the roof of the stadium been a success or not ?

Were plastic bullets a success or not?

Was the Plantation of Ulster a success or not?

Was Ballyseedy a success or not?

Were the Drumboe murders in Donegal a success or not?
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: WT4E on July 08, 2014, 10:05:19 AM
So is it confirmed? Three gigs only?

Now they're away to beg Garth to still do it!

 :o
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: manfromdelmonte on July 08, 2014, 10:19:23 AM
A lot of this is that the security firms and Gardai go overboard with the security barriers before games and events imho

Go to the premiership and games in residential places like Goodison, Anfield etc and they don't put the place on lockdown
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: joemamas on July 08, 2014, 02:10:18 PM
You may have a point there, I was watching the Meath V Kildare game on TV, I noticed that there were somewhere between 20 and 30 "security men" facing hill 16 from the field, FFS there were as many of them as supporters on the hill for nearly an hour and a half.
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: ballinaman on July 08, 2014, 03:49:37 PM
All 5 off.

Game over, ball burst, cowboy hat burned.
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: screenexile on July 08, 2014, 03:55:32 PM
All 5 off.

Game over, ball burst, cowboy hat burned.


Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 08, 2014, 03:57:01 PM
All 5 off.

Game over, ball burst, cowboy hat burned.

Ahahahahhaha

What a t**ser.

Just seen that, ah well. Hardstation you should find the leader of that residents committee and bring them to Casement
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: ballinaman on July 08, 2014, 03:57:28 PM
All 5 off.

Game over, ball burst, cowboy hat burned.



Party off Garth


Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: haranguerer on July 08, 2014, 03:57:34 PM
Fair play to him...

Dublin have made some b*lls of this

Aiken and Garth have nothing to answer for
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: Under Lights on July 08, 2014, 03:58:40 PM
Some hassle now sorting refunds
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: Bingo on July 08, 2014, 03:58:52 PM
Regardless of the rights/wrongs of this, this could only happen in Ireland. And I don't mean that in a nice way.

A complete balls in fairness.
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: balladmaker on July 08, 2014, 04:01:18 PM
If ever a city or country just shot itself in the foot, Dublin and Ireland did ... you couldn't make this stuff up.
Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: Under Lights on July 08, 2014, 04:02:20 PM
Any official statement regarding refunds. Won't someone think of the refunds.
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: deiseach on July 08, 2014, 04:02:25 PM
Regardless of the rights/wrongs of this, this could only happen in Ireland. And I don't mean that in a nice way.

Let's keep a sense of perspective. Shit happens everywhere. Can we give the cultural cringe stuff a miss?
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: Hereiam on July 08, 2014, 04:02:38 PM
This is unreal. Heads should roll over this. Aiken should issue full refunds and any money obtained from interest on ticket sales should be donated to charity.
Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: armaghniac on July 08, 2014, 04:02:49 PM
I think the fans should walk up and down Clonliffe Road singing out of tune C&W songs.
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: ziggysego on July 08, 2014, 04:04:08 PM
Well that's my summer f*cked now. Only thing I had booked.
Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: ballinaman on July 08, 2014, 04:04:52 PM
I think the fans should walk up and down Clonliffe Road singing out of tune C&W songs.
Do sure...pop into the Sunset House for a drink with the locals on the way home, they'll be very nice to you  ;D
Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: Under Lights on July 08, 2014, 04:05:08 PM
My handling fee- will I get my handling fee returned???!!!
THE FUDGING REFUND LOTTERY
Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: Under Lights on July 08, 2014, 04:08:16 PM
Us in the North going to be screwed with the exchange rate as well- cost around £62 at the time- only worth £60 now.
Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: Hereiam on July 08, 2014, 04:08:52 PM
What about the transaction fee for paying to a different country (f**king banks) who is going to refund that.
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: Bingo on July 08, 2014, 04:09:25 PM
Regardless of the rights/wrongs of this, this could only happen in Ireland. And I don't mean that in a nice way.

Let's keep a sense of perspective. Shit happens everywhere. Can we give the cultural cringe stuff a miss?

I can't see where this is cultural cringe. We have 400,000 people paid to go for a series of concerts that couldn't go ahead. Its like buying voting machines that don't vote.

If it was in a Father Ted episode we'd all have a great laugh at it.

No one has died but we'll be in the international headlines again.

And I couldn't care too much about Brooks or his music to actually care about missing the concert.
Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: Shamrock Shore on July 08, 2014, 04:10:04 PM
First Jedward get rescued
Then Longford get rogered by Tipp
Then I invest in 145,000 pink stetsons.

Now this!  >:(
Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: 5 Sams on July 08, 2014, 04:11:15 PM
Good luck to those people who bought tickets from someone who bought them from Ticketmaster. Interesting to see how that will work. Imagine if you bought two tickets of E Bay even at face value. Who gets the refund? The original buyer who will have a receipt from ticketmaster or the poor b*stard with two tickets?
Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 08, 2014, 04:13:40 PM
Good luck to those people who bought tickets from someone who bought them from Ticketmaster. Interesting to see how that will work. Imagine if you bought two tickets of E Bay even at face value. Who gets the refund? The original buyer who will have a receipt from ticketmaster or the poor b*stard with two tickets?

Serves ya right for buying tickets for that crap lol ;)  Though if you bought them as present for someone you'd have to go through all that shit to get your money back. Pity Casement wasn't ready....
Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: Under Lights on July 08, 2014, 04:13:46 PM
What the hell am I going to do with 10,000 of these


Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: deiseach on July 08, 2014, 04:13:57 PM
I can't see where this is cultural cringe. We have 400,000 people paid to go for a series of concerts that couldn't go ahead. Its like buying voting machines that don't vote.

If it was in a Father Ted episode we'd all have a great laugh at it.

No one has died but we'll be in the international headlines again.

And I couldn't care too much about Brooks or his music to actually care about missing the concert.

It wouldn't be hard to find examples of daft things happening in other countries. Remember all the stories of chaos around the time the euro was introduced? You didn't have any of that in Ireland. Sure, there will be international headlines, but they'll soon be overtaken by whatever Kimye are up to.
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: Bingo on July 08, 2014, 04:18:21 PM
I can't see where this is cultural cringe. We have 400,000 people paid to go for a series of concerts that couldn't go ahead. Its like buying voting machines that don't vote.

If it was in a Father Ted episode we'd all have a great laugh at it.

No one has died but we'll be in the international headlines again.

And I couldn't care too much about Brooks or his music to actually care about missing the concert.

It wouldn't be hard to find examples of daft things happening in other countries. Remember all the stories of chaos around the time the euro was introduced? You didn't have any of that in Ireland. Sure, there will be international headlines, but they'll soon be overtaken by whatever Kimye are up to.

Tune into Joe Duffy tomorrow and you'll see how serious this is  :)

In fairness, I just think its cringeworthy and on a such a scale that it an awful lot of people are going to be out of pocket.
Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: whiskeysteve on July 08, 2014, 04:19:14 PM
From RTE:

Quote
It had been estimated that the five concerts would have generated up to €50m in revenue, with the RAI saying the restaurant industry expected to take in €15m.
Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: Shamrock Shore on July 08, 2014, 04:22:05 PM
Is there anything to be said for another mass?


Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: The Bearded One on July 08, 2014, 04:23:18 PM
I know several sports clubs/organisations who have held raffles to win tickets to one of the shows.

How are they going to refund punters who bought tickets to enter in good faith??
Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: EC Unique on July 08, 2014, 04:23:45 PM
How Irish! What a stupid bunch of fcuk wits! :D :D :D

I would say there are a few serious crisis meetings going on in Dublin as we speak. This story is not over yet but it is comedy gold. :D

Feel sorry for the ordinary punters that have been screwed.
Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: dec on July 08, 2014, 04:25:00 PM
Fair play to him...

Dublin have made some b*lls of this

Aiken and Garth have nothing to answer for

They sold tickets for an event without finding out if they would actually be able to hold the event.
Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: Crete Boom on July 08, 2014, 04:25:25 PM
 So is this ( not taking into account that Aitken/Garth Brook wanted to cash in) all over the row over the ownership structure of the new community center between Croke park and the Handball association?
Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: magpie seanie on July 08, 2014, 04:25:49 PM
Fair play to him...

Dublin have made some b*lls of this

Aiken and Garth have nothing to answer for

They sold tickets for an event without finding out if they would actually be able to hold the event.


Read up a little on it before you make silly statements like that.
Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: Tony Baloney on July 08, 2014, 04:26:24 PM
There will be pitchforks out in Dublin yet. Luckily most of Garth's fans will have one at home.

Can't see this being the end of it.
Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: 5 Sams on July 08, 2014, 04:26:39 PM
I know several sports clubs/organisations who have held raffles to win tickets to one of the shows.

How are they going to refund punters who bought tickets to enter in good faith??

Then you have charities that have held auctions and made a lot of money on a couple of tickets.....money which may have been already spent!!
Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: clarshack on July 08, 2014, 04:26:43 PM
if they had have just stuck to the original 2 nights and not got greedy - would there still have been an objection to just those 2 nights?
or was it the beginning of the end when they started taking the piss with 5 nights?
Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: magpie seanie on July 08, 2014, 04:27:07 PM
What's to stop them targetting gaelic football and hurling matches now? Are the specifically allowed any number or a set number of matches per year?

This country is a jokeshop.
Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: Bingo on July 08, 2014, 04:28:37 PM
What's to stop them targetting gaelic football and hurling matches now? Are the specifically allowed any number or a set number of matches per year?

This country is a jokeshop.

No they are entirely safe as they aren't subject to a licence, which is effectively planning permission.
Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: Rossfan on July 08, 2014, 04:29:07 PM
So the oul spoiled child has thrown all the toys out of the pram.
Well Fcuk him and at least the people of North Dublin will be able to open their windows and not be assailed by a load of Country and Western caterwaulin. ;D
Title: Re: You can't keep a good man down: Garth Brooks in Croke Park
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on July 08, 2014, 04:29:33 PM
Well that's my summer f*cked now. Only thing I had booked.

Aren't you just back from Rome?
Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: Under Lights on July 08, 2014, 04:33:17 PM
Just got the first hard luck story in regards to this. A woman at works husband had a FREE WEEKEND as she was heading to Dublin for the weekend. Pizza, Xbox, DVDs, p0rn ran from computer through HDMI cable and onto the big screen- all taken from him. She has hotel booked and he may have to go to Dublin now along with her and walk about the f*ckin' zoo.
Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: Premier Emperor on July 08, 2014, 04:34:56 PM
A great victory for a small bunch of busybodies - some of them who don't even live in the area and lots of the objections were forged!
Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: balladmaker on July 08, 2014, 04:36:17 PM
The Irish Post had great foresight away back on April 1st ... http://www.irishpost.co.uk/entertainment/garth-brooks-set-cancel-irish-shows
Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on July 08, 2014, 04:38:05 PM
Quote
Garth Brooks ‘no longer feels welcome in Ireland’
Singer to hold press conference in the United States on Thursday
Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: Hereiam on July 08, 2014, 04:39:52 PM
Where the f**k is Enda Kenny on this. Come on Enda get the finger out old chap.
Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: magpie seanie on July 08, 2014, 04:44:15 PM
So the oul spoiled child has thrown all the toys out of the pram.
Well Fcuk him and at least the people of North Dublin will be able to open their windows and not be assailed by a load of Country and Western caterwaulin. ;D


Ehh - the promoters pulled the plug because a resident has taken an application seeking an injunction against the 3 licensed concerts. This will be heard Thursday morning. So no wonder the promoters pulled the plug.

But by all means fire ahead and blame whoever you feel like without any reference to the facts.
Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: Under Lights on July 08, 2014, 04:47:31 PM
So the oul spoiled child has thrown all the toys out of the pram.
Well Fcuk him and at least the people of North Dublin will be able to open their windows and not be assailed by a load of Country and Western caterwaulin. ;D


Ehh - the promoters pulled the plug because a resident has taken an application seeking an injunction against the 3 licensed concerts. This will be heard Thursday morning. So no wonder the promoters pulled the plug.

But by all means fire ahead and blame whoever you feel like without any reference to the facts.

Magpie have you not read the link from April Fools Day- GB wants to go paintballing that weekend.

http://www.irishpost.co.uk/entertainment/garth-brooks-set-cancel-irish-shows
 (http://www.irishpost.co.uk/entertainment/garth-brooks-set-cancel-irish-shows)
Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: thewobbler on July 08, 2014, 04:48:32 PM
I have admire Garth Brooks principles here.

Man of his word.
Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on July 08, 2014, 04:52:13 PM
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Labour Commission chief executive Mr Mulvey, who was mediator for talks between Croke Park residents and GAA/Croke Park, said negative commentary made following his statement he would play “five or none at all” had made Brooks feel unwelcome.
“He’s a human being, a country western singer-he’s not a diplomat,” Mr Mulvey said.

 ;D
Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: cockahoop on July 08, 2014, 04:52:56 PM
Just got the first hard luck story in regards to this. A woman at works husband had a FREE WEEKEND as she was heading to Dublin for the weekend. Pizza, Xbox, DVDs, p0rn ran from computer through HDMI cable and onto the big screen- all taken from him. She has hotel booked and he may have to go to Dublin now along with her and walk about the f*ckin' zoo.


 ;D brillant
Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: Canalman on July 08, 2014, 04:53:20 PM
This ain't over by a long shot imo.

Reckon there will be some sort of bill passed in the Dail changing the Planning temporarily with an agreement that CP hold no more concerts for a year or two.  Problem solved.

No way a city in financial crisis will turn away the revenue the concerts will raise.
Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: theskull1 on July 08, 2014, 04:54:11 PM
Does anyone else not see this as Brooks/Aiken pressing the nuclear button in good time so as to create the requisite amount of panic to ensure he gets exactly what he wants. A very high but well calculated risk on their part I'd say.

I have admire Garth Brooks principles here.

Man of his word.


He's a man with the power to bully to get his way   
Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: EC Unique on July 08, 2014, 04:56:03 PM
Does anyone else not see this as Brooks/Aiken pressing the nuclear button in good time so as to create the requisite amount of panic to ensure he gets exactly what he wants. A very high but well calculated risk on their part I'd say.

That is exactly what I think. Don't cancel you hotels yet ye'all.....
Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: Hereiam on July 08, 2014, 04:56:29 PM
Even if it does go ahead the whole shine has been taken off it. There will be people cancelling hotels and flights now as we speak.
Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: Bingo on July 08, 2014, 04:59:24 PM
This ain't over by a long shot imo.

Reckon there will be some sort of bill passed in the Dail changing the Planning temporarily with an agreement that CP hold no more concerts for a year or two.  Problem solved.

No way a city in financial crisis will turn away the revenue the concerts will raise.

Think its gone past that. Refunds will have to start soon and cancellations will already have been made.

Even at that, the High court is listed for Thursday. They can't pass legislation against a ruling that they don't know about, it could deem all legisaltion redundant.
Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: Syferus on July 08, 2014, 05:00:01 PM
Well done to the few residents who when jihadist on the concerts, you've fúcked over 400,000 people and damaged your country's reputation for a bit of noise and inconvenience on two nights.

Disaster for the GAA to boot.
Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: balladmaker on July 08, 2014, 05:10:53 PM
There's no way back now once the promoter has released the statement saying that all 5 are cancelled.  They'll be tagged onto the back end Garth's world tour announcement on Thursday in some shape or form, and the scramble for tickets will begin once again. 

A very bad day for Dublin and for Ireland.
Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: theskull1 on July 08, 2014, 05:15:10 PM
Well done to the few residents who when jihadist on the concerts, you've fúcked over 400,000 people and damaged your country's reputation for a bit of noise and inconvenience on two nights.

Disaster for the GAA to boot.

Yeah and we'll get that reputation back by bowing and scraping to a washed up bullying cowboy?  :-\ There was a time that 3 nights was plenty....now all toys out of pram?

Why so I wonder?
On principle (regardless of the financial losses) whenever the idea of 5 nights was still subject to license?
Or
To bully government institutions into submission?

You've got to admit the second one sounds more plausible?
Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: squire_in_navy_slacks on July 08, 2014, 05:22:47 PM
Delighted an over rated fat womble coming over to top up his pension fund ...................................... get a grip barn dancing adults
Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: macdanger2 on July 08, 2014, 05:24:21 PM
Does anyone else not see this as Brooks/Aiken pressing the nuclear button in good time so as to create the requisite amount of panic to ensure he gets exactly what he wants. A very high but well calculated risk on their part I'd say.

I have admire Garth Brooks principles here.

Man of his word.


He's a man with the power to bully to get his way

Agree 100% skull. Pure greed om behalf of the promoters and GB.
Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: Fionntamhnach on July 08, 2014, 05:25:48 PM
If there is a lesson in all of this, it's this - if you are planning an event which requires planning permission for it to happen, then make sure you get it first before you sell any tickets for it! Whatever the concerns of (some of) the residents near Croke Park, the handling of this by the PnCT & Aiken Promotions reeked of the cute hoorism from the latter Celtic Tiger days, where dodgy developers were in cahoots with politicans and civil servants, offering brown envelopes to give nudges and winks to build unfinished ghost estates in the middle of nowhere and shoeboxes for flats that didn't meet regulations. They tried to play a game of brinkmanship with the late submission for licence against objectors and didn't get what they wanted. Greed did them in the end, had they stuck to the original two or three nights and then attempted to organise another concert for a couple of nights elsewhere in the country later in the summer they would have far more likely got everything sorted.
I feel sorry for those that had tickets, hotels booked etc. for these concerts, but the blame here lies with the orangisers and if he really did try the "five or nathin'" brinkmanship call, Brooks himself for the three concerts that had been licenced.
Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: thebigfella on July 08, 2014, 05:31:12 PM
Delighted that Dublin city council (and residents) had the balls not to let the fat greedy yank and aiken promotions walk all over them. Watched You've been Trumped again last night and it's all a bit similar IMO.

By the way if you are all that concerned about the Irish economy you should all come down for the nights anyway; plenty of Irish talent and other events on which you can spend you cash on.  At least you''ll be guaranteed the money will feed back into the economy and not on burgers in Nashville  :P
Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: theskull1 on July 08, 2014, 05:33:44 PM
Exactly Fionntamhnach..... It would amaze you just how unprincipled people get when decisions don't suit their own ends
Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: Rossfan on July 08, 2014, 05:35:42 PM
So the oul spoiled child has thrown all the toys out of the pram.
Well Fcuk him and at least the people of North Dublin will be able to open their windows and not be assailed by a load of Country and Western caterwaulin. ;D


Ehh - the promoters pulled the plug because a resident has taken an application seeking an injunction against the 3 licensed concerts. This will be heard Thursday morning. So no wonder the promoters pulled the plug.

But by all means fire ahead and blame whoever you feel like without any reference to the facts.
All I've been hearing since the decision to allow 3 was made is that Brooks says 5 or none.
If it's due to a Court Case Thursday ( and I've seen no reports to say it is) why not wait till the Case is heard.
If I decide to seek an injunction to stop the Connacht Final will they cancel it or wait till the Case ?
Why don't you also attack the half dozen other posters who are running Brooks down for deciding to pull the plug because he didn't get his way?
Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: Myles Na G. on July 08, 2014, 05:42:42 PM
Seems simple to me. GAA promised local residents no more than 3 concerts per year, then welshed on that agreement as soon as Peter Aiken waved a fat cheque under its nose. Fair play to the residents for standing up for themselves. It's tough on people who've made travel arrangements and will be out of pocket as a result. Maybe they should seek compensation from the Grab All Association?
Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: theticklemister on July 08, 2014, 05:49:38 PM
Seems simple to me. GAA promised local residents no more than 3 concerts per year, then welshed on that agreement as soon as Peter Aiken waved a fat cheque under its nose. Fair play to the residents for standing up for themselves. It's tough on people who've made travel arrangements and will be out of pocket as a result. Maybe they should seek compensation from the Grab All Association?

Feck I agree with Myles!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: Maguire01 on July 08, 2014, 06:04:33 PM
Fair play to him...

Dublin have made some b*lls of this

Aiken and Garth have nothing to answer for

They sold tickets for an event without finding out if they would actually be able to hold the event.
As is the case for every such outdoor event in the country.
Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: Premier Emperor on July 08, 2014, 06:06:11 PM
The main trouble maker lives in Castleknock and has a vendetta against the GAA over the handball centre.

http://www.evoke.ie/croke-park-residents-protest-for-the-garth-brooks-gigs-to-go-ahead/

We want GARTH! Furious residents living near Croke Park begin a campaign for all FIVE Garth Brooks concerts to go ahead

July 7, 2014

Furious residents living near Croke Park have begun a campaign for all five Garth Brooks concerts to go ahead.

Speaking to the EVOKE.ie, the new group, Local Residents Supporting Garth Brooks, accused Castleknock resident Eamon O’Brien, chairman of the Croke Park Streets Committee, of using the concerts as part of a ‘vendetta’ against the GAA.

Claiming they are being used as a pawn in O’Brien’s crusade, the group – who say they number over 1,600 members – staged a rally at the Leinster Hurling Final yesterday, calling for all five concerts to go ahead.
The group back mediator Kieran Mulvey’s report, which recommended a €500,000 legacy fund for the area, and a commitment from the GAA that no more than three concerts in a row should ever be held in Croke Park again.

Organiser Susan Mangan, a local mother who has lived in Ballybough for generations, told the EVOKE.ie: ‘The reason we started the protest is that this guy Eamon O’Brien does not represent us.

‘We didn’t elect him; nobody elected him. We’re not killjoys in the area. We’re all for the five concerts to go ahead.

‘We were told by one or two people in O’Brien’s “Stop the Madness” campaign to mind our own business; that this was all Clonliffe Road.

Fellow local resident Lorraine Gavin added: ‘Eamon has a problem with the GAA and we’re being dragged along with that.

‘I don’t understand why a man from Tipperary who lives in Castleknock has any interest here. If he knew the community, he wouldn’t be so against the concerts.

‘It’s good for the local economy. I personally think he has a crusade against the GAA. Eamon doesn’t represent this community.’ Last weekend Mr O’Brien, a Tipperary native, admitted to this newspaper that the Croke Park Streets Committee does not necessarily represent people living in the area.

He accepted that much of his opposition to the Garth Brooks concerts is to do with a long-running dispute over a handball club at Croke Park which the GAA want to bulldoze.

Nevertheless, Dublin City Council manager Owen Keegan has refused planning permission for two of the five concerts, on July 28 and 29, following O’Brien’s campaign, which stressed the negative consequences of the concerts on local residents.

Promoter Peter Aiken said a final decision will be made on the fate of the concerts today or Tuesday, but he still had hope all five would go ahead.

Yesterday Mr Aiken discussed the matter with the GAA, Lord Mayor Christy Burke, and mediator Kieran Mulvey.

Furious residents living near Croke Park have begun a campaign for all five Garth Brooks concerts to go ahead.

Local resident Sandra Reid, 44, told the EVOKE.ie ‘The money that will be lost to the local economy if these concerts don’t go ahead is outrageous. Eamon O’Brien doesn’t even live here.

‘He’s living in Castleknock, for the love of God.

‘I’d say go to Castleknock and look after your own community, and leave ours alone. The majority of the residents on Clonliffe Road actually don’t mind the five concerts going ahead.’ Mr O’Brien was not available to comment last night.

The five concerts remain unlikely to go ahead, as licence decisions under the Planning and Development Acts can’t be amended or appealed.

Mr Keegan is expected to face strong criticism at today’s meeting of Dublin City Council.

Sinn Féin members have threatened to use Section 140 of the Local Government Act to overturn the decision – but would require two-thirds of all councillors to back it.

Meanwhile, gardaí are continuing to investigate the potential fraud of forged signatures on the residents petition opposing the Garth Brooks concerts.
Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: Maguire01 on July 08, 2014, 06:09:12 PM
Does anyone else not see this as Brooks/Aiken pressing the nuclear button in good time so as to create the requisite amount of panic to ensure he gets exactly what he wants. A very high but well calculated risk on their part I'd say.

I have admire Garth Brooks principles here.

Man of his word.


He's a man with the power to bully to get his way
Only he hasn't got his way.
Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: seafoid on July 08, 2014, 06:25:15 PM
Surely it would make more sense to have Garth Brooks concerts where the punters are and nobody is going to do the NIMBY - eg Thurles or Clones.
Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: laoislad on July 08, 2014, 06:55:55 PM
Why would he not just do 3 nights?

Apart from being a stinking greedy hoor who is throwing his toys out of the pram?
If he was that greedy he would do the 3 nights. He must be losing millions by not doing them.
Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: THE MIGHTY QUINN on July 08, 2014, 07:02:23 PM
Seems simple to me. GAA promised local residents no more than 3 concerts per year, then welshed on that agreement as soon as Peter Aiken waved a fat cheque under its nose. Fair play to the residents for standing up for themselves. It's tough on people who've made travel arrangements and will be out of pocket as a result. Maybe they should seek compensation from the Grab All Association?
I love people like you. Do you not realise that the GAA belongs to all of us? The money generated from Fat Boys concerts would have helped build changing rooms, football fields etc for cash strapped clubs. It's a disgrace that this income is being lost and it's worse that people like you have attitudes like you have
Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: Syferus on July 08, 2014, 07:02:43 PM
He'd do the concerts if there were 5 but not a measly 3.

That's greedy.

He's going to announce a world tour on Thursday with many one night shows.

Grind your axe but realise you aren't correct on this one.
Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on July 08, 2014, 07:07:59 PM
How many Garth brooks concerts does it take to upset a Garth Brooks fan? ....
































None
Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: Syferus on July 08, 2014, 07:09:58 PM
He'd do the concerts if there were 5 but not a measly 3.

That's greedy.

He's going to announce a world tour on Thursday with many one night shows.

Grind your axe but realise you aren't correct on this one.
Well, I did ask the question so please do answer....

Why would he not just play 3 nights?

Clearly on principle. I'm sure he hoped it'd bang heads together to find a solution but playing to a little over half the number of people he was supposed to doesn't seem ideal for anyone, superstar musician or not. The court case against the original three dates was probably the straw that broke the camel's back. Brooks is the one that's losing the most money back not playing the three dates.
Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: Zip Code on July 08, 2014, 07:14:47 PM
He'd do the concerts if there were 5 but not a measly 3.

That's greedy.

He's going to announce a world tour on Thursday with many one night shows.

Grind your axe but realise you aren't correct on this one.
Well, I did ask the question so please do answer....

Why would he not just play 3 nights?

He was just going to play two initially.
Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: THE MIGHTY QUINN on July 08, 2014, 07:22:19 PM
Seems simple to me. GAA promised local residents no more than 3 concerts per year, then welshed on that agreement as soon as Peter Aiken waved a fat cheque under its nose. Fair play to the residents for standing up for themselves. It's tough on people who've made travel arrangements and will be out of pocket as a result. Maybe they should seek compensation from the Grab All Association?
I love people like you. Do you not realise that the GAA belongs to all of us? The money generated from Fat Boys concerts would have helped build changing rooms, football fields etc for cash strapped clubs. It's a disgrace that this income is being lost and it's worse that people like you have attitudes like you have
On another man's wound, blood money from dirty shyster bastids at the head of our association.

Keep it.

Filth
You never disappoint. You strike me as being one of life's under achievers who spends his life wallowing in self pity and begrudging anyone who has done anything with their life
Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: BennyHarp on July 08, 2014, 07:39:08 PM
Brooks has thrown the toys outta the pram and I'm glad the useless, washed up bullshit merchant has been forced to cancel the concerts. He plainly (and as turns, rightly) assumed he could pick Ireland as a country where he could peddle his shite to the culchies, make millions from people who would lap it up like only Irish people do. Oh look someone famous wants to visit - lets feckin make complete morons of ourselves to the world by turning out in droves to see a man who hasn't written a new song in 20 years and show everyone how brilliant supporters we are. No amount of money injected into the Irish economy is worth the embarrassment of it all. We have suffered enough.
Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: Wildweasel74 on July 08, 2014, 07:42:58 PM
The end of the day, any decision should have waited to see the outcome of the injunction on Thursday,  if not enforced there is no reason Aiken's cannot go ahead with 3 concerts, as they were originally happy to go with 2.

Throwing the toys out of the pram and saying its 5 or nothing say more about Brook attitude to normal fans and rakes of nothing more than a greedy bollix. I know if i band i like which i wanted to see, and was cancelled due to that attitude i kindly tell them to f**k off and don't set foot on our shores again.

Its tough on people who bought tickets for others, booked hotels they cant cancel. they alot of blame here mostly Aiken's with a fair share from Croke Park some bollix from castleknock who doesn't even live near croke park, croke park committee and possible Dublin councillors. Enough blame to go all round.

But i wouldn't beg some American cowboy to please don't cancel, if the concerts are to go ahead and subject to license which has been given does that not leave Aiken's liability open for loss incurred by fans for the first 3 nites at least.
Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: charlieTully on July 08, 2014, 07:43:10 PM
brooks management and lawyers knew that it was all subject to licence, they should have honoured the agreement and played whatever shows a licence was granted for.
Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: macdanger2 on July 08, 2014, 07:47:46 PM
brooks management and lawyers knew that it was all subject to licence, they should have honoured the agreement and played whatever shows a licence was granted for.

Good point - if the tickets are sold "subject to licence" and a licence was granted for the first three, are Aiken / Garth not in breach of their contract with people who have tickets for the first three nights??
Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: Wildweasel74 on July 08, 2014, 07:49:26 PM
Has anybody a list of clubs which got money from the GAA last year for works to their facilities, was it a grant or a loan?
Very few clubs in Derry have really benefited from much out of croke park (maybe the county team), if it wasn't for lotto funding up here in Derry and other clubs in Ulster, half our club facilities would still be back in the dark ages.

So i ain't buying the Brooks concerts putting money back into the local scene, though "Don't Matter" be quick to point out any money which does would end up In a  Dublin club lol
Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: Maguire01 on July 08, 2014, 07:53:51 PM
brooks management and lawyers knew that it was all subject to licence, they should have honoured the agreement and played whatever shows a licence was granted for.

Good point - if the tickets are sold "subject to licence" and a licence was granted for the first three, are Aiken / Garth not in breach of their contract with people who have tickets for the first three nights??
No. All such tickets come with a truck-load of small print.
Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: easytiger95 on July 08, 2014, 07:58:12 PM
Definitely think that if vast numbers of international artists can visit here without this kind of hassle, then Brooks/Aiken etc have overplayed their hand considerably. If Brooks really "loved" the place why not do a 20 night residency in the Point like Christy Moore did? I'd find this all considerably easy to process if Brooks/Aiken admitted it was all about economies of scale and 5 concerts add up financially - 3 concerts don't. Rather than having to hear about it being "like choosing between children" and "not feeling welcome in Ireland". I'd judge your welcome Garth by the fact you sold out 400,000 tickets - your fans played their part. Your part was to make sure you had a license and not to antagonize the local community. Eejit.

That said, residents and objectors have not covered themselves in glory - neither have the GAA. If the roots of all this are in an internecine struggle about the ownership and control of the handball club, then McKenna and co should make sure Alannis Morrissette is the next act to play Croker, and that she opens up with "Ironic".



Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: Syferus on July 08, 2014, 08:03:55 PM
Brooks has thrown the toys outta the pram and I'm glad the useless, washed up bullshit merchant has been forced to cancel the concerts. He plainly (and as turns, rightly) assumed he could pick Ireland as a country where he could peddle his shite to the culchies, make millions from people who would lap it up like only Irish people do. Oh look someone famous wants to visit - lets feckin make complete morons of ourselves to the world by turning out in droves to see a man who hasn't written a new song in 20 years and show everyone how brilliant supporters we are. No amount of money injected into the Irish economy is worth the embarrassment of it all. We have suffered enough.

Are you even serious?


Definitely think that if vast numbers of international artists can visit here without this kind of hassle, then Brooks/Aiken etc have overplayed their hand considerably. If Brooks really "loved" the place why not do a 20 night residency in the Point like Christy Moore did? I'd find this all considerably easy to process if Brooks/Aiken admitted it was all about economies of scale and 5 concerts add up financially - 3 concerts don't. Rather than having to hear about it being "like choosing between children" and "not feeling welcome in Ireland". I'd judge your welcome Garth by the fact you sold out 400,000 tickets - your fans played their part. Your part was to make sure you had a license and not to antagonize the local community. Eejit.

That said, residents and objectors have not covered themselves in glory - neither have the GAA. If the roots of all this are in an internecine struggle about the ownership and control of the handball club, then McKenna and co should make sure Alannis Morrissette is the next act to play Croker, and that she opens up with "Ironic".

People can go around quoting 'economies of scale' all they want but it doesn't deflect from the fact Brooks is bout to embark on a world tour with likely many single night concerts at stadiums and large venues. As a reason your's is factually incorrect.
Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: ONeill on July 08, 2014, 08:12:13 PM
Michael Jackson all over again
Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: Hereiam on July 08, 2014, 08:38:47 PM
Lets just blame the brits  ;D
Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: From the Bunker on July 08, 2014, 08:42:20 PM
If there is a lesson in all of this, it's this - if you are planning an event which requires planning permission for it to happen, then make sure you get it first before you sell any tickets for it! Whatever the concerns of (some of) the residents near Croke Park, the handling of this by the PnCT & Aiken Promotions reeked of the cute hoorism from the latter Celtic Tiger days, where dodgy developers were in cahoots with politicans and civil servants, offering brown envelopes to give nudges and winks to build unfinished ghost estates in the middle of nowhere and shoeboxes for flats that didn't meet regulations. They tried to play a game of brinkmanship with the late submission for licence against objectors and didn't get what they wanted. Greed did them in the end, had they stuck to the original two or three nights and then attempted to organise another concert for a couple of nights elsewhere in the country later in the summer they would have far more likely got everything sorted.
I feel sorry for those that had tickets, hotels booked etc. for these concerts, but the blame here lies with the orangisers and if he really did try the "five or nathin'" brinkmanship call, Brooks himself for the three concerts that had been licenced.

That's it all in a nutshell!
Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: Moortown Spuds on July 08, 2014, 08:43:13 PM
I bought tickets at a inflated price from a girl I know (not a friend)-should I be expecting to get the inflated amount back or the face value?

And before you all laugh at me, I got caught up in the hype and felt like a p*ick as soon as I parted with the £££.
Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: Wildweasel74 on July 08, 2014, 08:49:19 PM
Big Garth to be barred out of any orphanages encase he cant choose between them and enforces his policy its them all or none, saying we all his children!!
Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: theskull1 on July 08, 2014, 08:54:24 PM
I bought tickets at a inflated price from a girl I know (not a friend)-should I be expecting to get the inflated amount back or the face value?

And before you all laugh at me, I got caught up in the hype and felt like a p*ick as soon as I parted with the £££.

And how do you feel having asked that question?  :o

Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: Moortown Spuds on July 08, 2014, 08:57:24 PM
I bought tickets at a inflated price from a girl I know (not a friend)-should I be expecting to get the inflated amount back or the face value?

And before you all laugh at me, I got caught up in the hype and felt like a p*ick as soon as I parted with the £££.

And how do you feel having asked that question?  :o

Not great but was actually looking some advice. Thanks for your valuable input.
Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: BennyHarp on July 08, 2014, 09:02:25 PM
I bought tickets at a inflated price from a girl I know (not a friend)-should I be expecting to get the inflated amount back or the face value?

And before you all laugh at me, I got caught up in the hype and felt like a p*ick as soon as I parted with the £££.

This is the sort of thing I was alluding to in my post.
Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: BennyHarp on July 08, 2014, 09:55:38 PM
GAA statement.

“The GAA and Croke Park Stadium note with much regret the confirmation that none of the Garth Brooks concerts scheduled for later this month will now take place. The GAA shares the intense disappointment of the 400,000 people who have purchased tickets.

“Croke Park Stadium has worked closely with Aiken Promotions in its efforts to stage a unique series of concerts which would have represented an exciting national event and a joyful summer celebration. From the outset Croke Park Stadium, as it does with the planning of all events staged in Croke Park, and with a view to avoiding surprise late difficulties, engaged fully with Dublin City Council officials and addressed comprehensively every issue presented during this planning process. At no stage were we given any indication that a licence was likely to be refused for any of the five concerts.

“The GAA has made clear its acceptance of mediator Kieran Mulvey’s report on the long-term management of concerts and special events in Croke Park. We wish to acknowledge Mr Mulvey’s exceptional efforts over the past few days to resolve the issues raised by the refusal of a licence for the fourth and fifth concerts. The GAA is very encouraged by the emergence in recent days of groups of residents in the Croke Park area who share our wish for a positive continuing engagement with the Croke Park Stadium; we look forward to working with them on the recommendations of the Mulvey Report.”

- See more at: http://gaeliclife.com/2014/07/gaa-statement-on-cancellation-of-garth-brooks-concerts/#sthash.BI8vv2XA.dpuf
Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: macdanger2 on July 08, 2014, 10:13:36 PM
The few million I refer to is the expected bonus to the city from this but I presume you knew that??

What exactly is it here that's so important that the Taoiseach should intervene in?? Or what is it that he should do??

 I'd hope that when he invited companies to do business here that he wasn't saying that he would personally intervene to change any rules which might put them out
Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: Tyrone Dreamer on July 08, 2014, 10:38:59 PM
It sounds like this guy obrien is as big a bully in all of this as anyone. He's made a lot of false accusations about representing the residents and he's cost the economy tens of millions over a handball alley that the gaa owns.

How anyone thinks a bit of inconvenience for a small number of residents who objected should lead to this being called of is justified is mind boggling. Given the state of the country in recent years it's ridiculous to turn down the money. The government spent millions on the gathering last year and this was a far bigger tourist boost for free.

Hardststion just like a few residents it's pretty obvious your speaking from a selfish point of view on the issue because of a different issue relating to casement.
Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: macdanger2 on July 08, 2014, 10:47:46 PM
So when you say Enda should have gotten involved you don't know what you were referring to??

He was 100% correct to stay out of it, there’s due process and should no room for politicians and sneaky backroom deals should have no part to play in this sort of thing
Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: macdanger2 on July 08, 2014, 10:57:55 PM
Whether it went ahead or not, politicians shouldn't be interfering in issues which are already covered by legislation. Their job is to legislate, not to do backroom deals to get around regulations a la bertie. If you can't see that, then you've lived through the last 10 years in this country and learned nothing
Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: J OGorman on July 08, 2014, 11:13:36 PM
Has the word 'clusterfcuk' been used yet?

Any idea on how much Aiken / ticketmaster have pocketed in interest on ticket sales ?

Brooks pulling the plug on the other three gigs is the biggest huff I've heard of. Unreal carryon

Ye gotta feel for all those let down though.

And a very important point. Promoters and ticketmaster have been taking the hand re ticket prices and handling charges for years.
Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: Smokin Joe on July 08, 2014, 11:14:52 PM
I haven't read the whole thread, so perhaps someone else has mentioned it.

Aiken Promotions should surely be liable for the costs of any non-refundable hotels for people who had tickets for the first 3 nights.  The tickets were sold "subject to license".  But as the license was granted for the first 3 nights, surely Aiken / Brooks have breached the contract and thus they should refund all out of pocket costs.

I think there should be a distinction between the first three concerts that the unilaterally cancelled, and the latter two which was refused the license.
Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: Wildweasel74 on July 08, 2014, 11:21:31 PM
Joe that be the way i see it to, someone read the small print on the back of their ticket to see if theres a get out of jail card there.

On another note, back to the gaelic
Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: thewobbler on July 08, 2014, 11:23:52 PM
I haven't read the whole thread, so perhaps someone else has mentioned it.

Aiken Promotions should surely be liable for the costs of any non-refundable hotels for people who had tickets for the first 3 nights.  The tickets were sold "subject to license".  But as the license was granted for the first 3 nights, surely Aiken / Brooks have breached the contract and thus they should refund all out of pocket costs.

I think there should be a distinction between the first three concerts that the unilaterally cancelled, and the latter two which was refused the license.
Of f**k me. Such drivel. How to make sure nobody ever puts on an event again - in event of cancellation, make sure that the promoter is liable for each and every unrelated tangent that every potential attendee can rustle up. f**king claim state,

Aiken will be losing their shirt here as it stands. But no, that's not enough for some people.



Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: Lecale2 on July 08, 2014, 11:31:31 PM
Not a fan of this American country & western singing guy but the whole thing's a feckin shambles and makes the country look like a feckin banana Republic yet again.

If they don't sort out the system why would anyone risk staging a major event in Dublin again when Cardiff, Manchester etc can offer certainty and a load of Irish people will travel there to spend their cash?

The system is seriously flawed when decisions are left to so late in the day, costing ordinary people thousands of £/€.
Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: Wildweasel74 on July 08, 2014, 11:34:57 PM
Far as i can see he had no problem playing 2 concerts at the start and should have no problem playing 3, see somewhere hes worth roughly £100 million dollars apparently, so if i was a fan i be looking more his attitude to his "children" / fans which doesn't seem to be nice
Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: thejuice on July 09, 2014, 12:01:00 AM
So, people are saying its a banana republic because for once the council stuck to the rule of law, upheld it's agreements and didn't bend to private interests? Curious, given the last decade this country has been through.
Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: ONeill on July 09, 2014, 12:20:17 AM
Brooks mustn't have been all that fussed about coming over in the first place.
Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: Captain Obvious on July 09, 2014, 01:33:21 AM
Dublin City Council statement in full:
“Dublin City Council is very disappointed at Aiken Promotions’ decision not to proceed with the three Garth Brooks concerts that had been licensed for Croke Park.
“The City Council has sympathy for those ticket holders who purchased tickets for the performances.
“Dublin City Council hopes that Aiken Promotions will reconsider its decision. Once again, we would like to reiterate that Dublin City Council granted a licence for three concerts.
Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: T Fearon on July 09, 2014, 06:43:01 AM
No one escapes blame here,particularly GAA and my old school chum Peter Aitken who both assumed that flashing euro signs would be sufficient to gain any amount of licences.Also remember the first three concerts went on sale on day one but there was a two week gap until concerts 4 and 5 went on sale,plenty of time to apply for licences instead of arrogantly assuming there wouldn't be a problem.

Don't reallly blame Brooks ( not a fan of his music and wouldn't be seen dead at his concert).The guy was flown or persuaded to fly over to announce he would be playing Croke Park,then watched as first 3 then two more concerts had sold out rapidly,then all of a sudden he's told (when the ship carrying the necessary equipment is en route to Ireland) that he can only play three.Is it any wonder he threw the head up and thinking to himself what the hell sort of a country is this.

If Jim Aitken was alive this c**k up would never have happenec
Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: Maguire01 on July 09, 2014, 06:52:17 AM
No one escapes blame here,particularly GAA and my old school chum Peter Aitken who both assumed that flashing euro signs would be sufficient to gain any amount of licences.
If he was your old school chum, you'd think you'd know his name.
Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: Under Lights on July 09, 2014, 07:55:13 AM
any official line on refunds?
Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: reddgnhand on July 09, 2014, 08:28:16 AM
No one escapes blame here,particularly GAA and my old school chum Peter Aitken who both assumed that flashing euro signs would be sufficient to gain any amount of licences.
If he was your old school chum, you'd think you'd know his name.

He's always name dropping. Pathetic really.
Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: Under Lights on July 09, 2014, 08:41:45 AM
Heard this morning that refunds would be automatically processed to ticketmaster account holders. That's fine for me but in the case where someone bought tickets- sold them- they are getting the money from the sale plus the refund.
Mess.

Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: macdanger2 on July 09, 2014, 09:01:04 AM
Heard this morning that refunds would be automatically processed to ticketmaster account holders. That's fine for me but in the case where someone bought tickets- sold them- they are getting the money from the sale plus the refund.
Mess.

Not sure Aiken are liable for that, tickets are probably sold on condition of no resale. Complete balls for anyone who bought online though
Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: Under Lights on July 09, 2014, 09:04:54 AM
Heard a chap on the radio last night, a mini bus driver, has bookings for the 5 nights- people paid deposits- he spent them- was of the attitude of 'here I'll still drive them to Dublin if they want'.
Class.
Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: Zip Code on July 09, 2014, 09:37:07 AM
Who gets the 6 month interest on the 22 million yoyos!
Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: orangeman on July 09, 2014, 09:39:43 AM
He spent the 'deposit'?

Aye he had the mini bus booked for the 5 nights. Say for example it was €40 a head, he took €20 a head deposit x say 20 people x 5 nights which is €2000. He says he has the deposit spent long ago.

There will be plenty tales of woe like that.
Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: Premier Emperor on July 09, 2014, 09:52:52 AM
The motivation behind the residents bringing this event crashing down was because they are going to lose their bar on the new plans for the handball centre.

What providing a boozer for locals has to do with promoting GAA is beyond me. Most of them have no interest in GAA, or are anti-GAA. I'd say their knowledge of handball would be laughable.

I'd be delighted to see the place bulldozed in the morning after this fiasco. Let them find a different pub. 
Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: EC Unique on July 09, 2014, 09:55:13 AM

Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: ballinaman on July 09, 2014, 10:07:20 AM


I'm nowhere near as fat as that guy....
Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: manfromdelmonte on July 09, 2014, 10:19:55 AM
The motivation behind the residents bringing this event crashing down was because they are going to lose their bar on the new plans for the handball centre.

What providing a boozer for locals has to do with promoting GAA is beyond me. Most of them have no interest in GAA, or are anti-GAA. I'd say their knowledge of handball would be laughable.

I'd be delighted to see the place bulldozed in the morning after this fiasco. Let them find a different pub.

you need to go down there and see what they use the current handball centre for.
parties, funeral receptions etc
space is used for dancing classes, martial arts and other stuff.
Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: ballinaman on July 09, 2014, 10:23:48 AM
The motivation behind the residents bringing this event crashing down was because they are going to lose their bar on the new plans for the handball centre.

What providing a boozer for locals has to do with promoting GAA is beyond me. Most of them have no interest in GAA, or are anti-GAA. I'd say their knowledge of handball would be laughable.

I'd be delighted to see the place bulldozed in the morning after this fiasco. Let them find a different pub.
This must be a very difficult time for you. My sympathies.
I hope you'll be ok if Tipp get to Croker this year, you'll probably be overwhelmed by rage by the time you pass Gills pub. Call in for a cupán tae to settle the nerves...PM for my address.
Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: macdanger2 on July 09, 2014, 10:46:03 AM
He spent the 'deposit'?

Aye he had the mini bus booked for the 5 nights. Say for example it was €40 a head, he took €20 a head deposit x say 20 people x 5 nights which is €2000. He says he has the deposit spent long ago.

There will be plenty tales of woe like that.

Is that not what a "deposit" is for - if the people are now cancelling his service then hard luck. If they are local to his area, it may not do much for his business though
Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: meatsy86 on July 09, 2014, 11:13:11 AM
I wonder now where the bid for hosting the 2023 Rugby World Cup stands, Surely after this no-one could ever trust our country to host a massive occasion whether it be sporting or musical. If we were ever to be successful with this bid and the Semi-final was due to be staged at Croke Park would the Residents kick-up and request that Dublin City Council refuse a licence for the event. An absolute shame and disgrace.

Would surely get the IRB thinking now on whether they could ever trust our country to host the RWC 2023 successfully.

Not a bit of wonder people are emigrating all over the world. Certainly has me thinking in that frame of mind.

Such a backward country we live in.
Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: Brick Tamlin on July 09, 2014, 11:17:53 AM
Really?
Garth Brooks shows being pulled would put ye in the frame of mind to leave the country?
Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: bcarrier on July 09, 2014, 11:22:09 AM
I am outraged by the level of outrage. A bigger deal that the bank guarantee ::).

At same time I have no idea why the licensing of concerts should have anything to do with the planning process. Croke Park is a multiple functional stadium and playing a few concerts hardly amounts to a change of use. Some of the residents quite clearly revel in the fight and posturing opportunity that the current legal structure/planning framework gives them. The operation of buildings for intended use shouldnt be a planning issue.

In my opinion a  more appropriate control measure would be the application of some kind of additional taxation (property tax/rates ?) on Croke Park's commercial activity which could be collected by Dublin City Council and administered back to appropriate local communities  - something like the  £500,000 Garth Brook legacy fund that was talked about - but on an ongoing and formal basis.

 

Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: eddie d on July 09, 2014, 11:23:29 AM
Big difference in one world cup game that would be over by 10pm and 5 concerts on.to all hours
Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: thebigfella on July 09, 2014, 11:38:53 AM
I wonder now where the bid for hosting the 2023 Rugby World Cup stands, Surely after this no-one could ever trust our country to host a massive occasion whether it be sporting or musical. If we were ever to be successful with this bid and the Semi-final was due to be staged at Croke Park would the Residents kick-up and request that Dublin City Council refuse a licence for the event. An absolute shame and disgrace.

Would surely get the IRB thinking now on whether they could ever trust our country to host the RWC 2023 successfully.

Not a bit of wonder people are emigrating all over the world. Certainly has me thinking in that frame of mind.

Such a backward country we live in.


I'm curious do you live north or south of the border? If it's north sure you don't live in the backwards part of Ireland; problem solved and no need to emigrate.
Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: Denn Forever on July 09, 2014, 12:04:54 PM
Was the deal that there would be only 3 concerts staged per year? 

One Direction used this quota for this year.  When were the Garth Brooks concerts announced? Surely someone knew this and should have been working to sort this out rather than hoping people would just accept an agreement being broken.

Democracy and the rule of law is a B&&ch.
Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: thebigfella on July 09, 2014, 12:12:40 PM
Was the deal that there would be only 3 concerts staged per year? 

One Direction used this quota for this year.  When were the Garth Brooks concerts announced? Surely someone knew this and should have been working to sort this out rather than hoping people would just accept an agreement being broken.

Democracy and the rule of law is a B&&ch.

Sure don't let that get in the way of country music wannabe rednecks blaming everyone but Aiken/Brooks, calling DCC backwards for following due process.
Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: Bingo on July 09, 2014, 12:13:43 PM
From the GAA's point of view and everyone connected, some sort of process needs to be put in place for future events.

1 - Is there an actual legally binding agreement between Croke Park and the residents? This seems very vague but by all accounts there isn't one. Rather its part of planning conditions that 3 non-Gaa events can be held, rather this planning/licence has to be sought, which was the case in this instance. 5 concerts in a row is excessive I should add.
Both parties need to agree this basic issue which is the starting point.

2 - Who is the residents? Seeing people interviewed on the news it seems that they are 3/4 different groups and then do they represent a majority of the residents. As much as anything, there should be one residents association to who the GAA deal with and they should represent the majority views. If money is involved as was suggested in this case, then who gets this money from the GAA and controls how to spend. I'm lead to believe that the residents already have a pile of cash that they can't agree on what to spend it on. Getting the residents together could actually be the hardest part in any future workings.

3 - new process needed for planning process. Stricter cut off and quicker response from the local authoritys. Aikens seem to be getting flack for not having the relevant permissions in place but heard a guy on Radio this morning from MCD and he said it would be impossible to have this under the current legislation. Some sort of outline planning needs to be in place for these venues that are been used year on year. Surely DCC could have been made award of a possible 4/5 concert and at that stage given what they know of the city and venue, could they have said, No Lads, too much too soon. Can you play in Cork/Limerick/Belfast perhaps for the next two nights? Even allow for fast track application system given the knowledge that DCC must have now in relation to these venues. Plus if submitted in April, why did it take till July to approve/reject.

Holding a concert shouldn't be an issue that makes headlines or puts pressure on the Gov to get involved. There is a lot more important stuff to be going on with, so all the parties need to get there house in order and insure that it doesn't happen again but it could well do given the current bad blood that is present.
Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: deiseach on July 09, 2014, 12:18:23 PM
Speaking of the global impact of this, some people out foreign are not treating it with the seriousness it deserves:

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Garth Brooks disappoints 400,000 people (http://www.avclub.com/article/garth-brooks-disappoints-400000-people-206661)

By Laura M. Browning

Garth Brooks’ first tour in 10 years hasn’t even started yet, and it already has a few wrinkles. The country singer, known for the raucous drinking song “Friends In Low Places” and for embarrassing himself with alter ego Chris Gaines, retired from music and touring in 2001. With his youngest daughter just graduated from high school, Brooks announced a world comeback tour that would begin at Dublin’s massive 90,000-seat Croke Park Stadium, with five shows later this month. That’s 450,000 tickets, or almost the entire population of Dublin.

But the Dublin city council—perhaps worried that more than three performances of “The Dance” could result in a citywide Kleenex shortage—has ruled that Brooks must cancel two of the five shows, even though he’s already sold 400,000 tickets. Brooks issued a statement saying he would do all five of the shows or none of them. In a simile that makes no sense anywhere but in a country song, he also added, “To choose which shows to do and which shows not to do, would be like asking to choose one child over another.”

Brooks will hold a press conference on Thursday that will stream live on garthbrooks.com, during which he will presumably address the situation. In a related story, tickets are now half-price for Chris Gaines’ six-night stand at The Ginger Man on Dublin’s Fenian Street (capacity: 71).
Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: Under Lights on July 09, 2014, 01:45:35 PM
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Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: dec on July 09, 2014, 02:18:13 PM
Don't reallly blame Brooks ( not a fan of his music and wouldn't be seen dead at his concert)

Unless you won some tickets in a colouring-in competition.
Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: under the bar on July 09, 2014, 02:54:10 PM
I really can't understand all the hype around his comeback as he is well past his best.   How many years is it since he played for Spurs now?
Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: snatter on July 09, 2014, 03:00:20 PM
Most ( if not all ) of the resident v's GAA conflict could be engineered out if the O'Connell schools campus was moved to a new site in the Clonliffe College grounds.

A large plaza could then be created in front of Croker and could be used as the single entry point for the stadium. Croker could then be used a lot more, which is a win win for the whole country and the GAA.

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Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: Wildweasel74 on July 09, 2014, 06:46:15 PM
End of the day, no matter who's to blame the useless Dick could still come over and do the 3 concerts as licensed, as that the legal ruling. Some American cowboy doesn't run this country and get what he wants, its abit like America telling countries what to do in the middle east.Heard some bullshit on the TV there about he heartbroken he cant do 5 and the equipment on route but its still 5 or nothing. His supporters had any balls at all they kindly tell him to f**k off and don't set foot on our shores!!
Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: EC Unique on July 09, 2014, 07:06:42 PM
On and off like a light switch🙀🙀
Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: EC Unique on July 09, 2014, 07:20:30 PM
;D

This is class.
Seems the cowboy has the power after all. And the balls to match.
Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: Zip Code on July 09, 2014, 07:28:46 PM
Brinkmanship at it's best.
Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: ballinaman on July 09, 2014, 07:37:22 PM
Tommie Gorman is going to do an interview tomorrow via video link. A nation holds it's breath. Thousands are about hit the exit button and head for Dublin airport. Tense times.
Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: Zulu on July 09, 2014, 07:39:57 PM
Tweeted by the Kerryman paper - A powerful american, a small island nation, a deadline before ships must turn around. Cuban missile crisis 2? #garthbrookscrokepark  ;D
Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: Kidder81 on July 09, 2014, 07:53:52 PM
What's the obsession with Garth Brooks, he is pathetic
Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: muppet on July 09, 2014, 08:27:41 PM
This saga has it all.

Non-resident-residents' protests,
Country bumpkins versus inner city nimbys,
achey breakey * pining line dancers,
toyless perambulators,
Cowboys and Endians,

and that is all just in the Dail.

* I know it isn't him but it all sounds the same to me.


Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: Tyrone Dreamer on July 09, 2014, 08:57:40 PM
It's starting to look like the so called residents who went out of their way to get the concerts cancelled are close to admitting that it was due to other issues and nothing to do with inconvenience of the concerts. The man who was going to court to get the 3 remaining concerts cancelled has now dropped the case in the hope that brooks will still play the 3 of them. He's also said his main issue was with the gaa and he's satisfied now that his point is made.

The council cancelled these on the basis that they were damaging the lives of the residents. I'm not sure how much research was done on this. It looks like a small portion of the residents are using concerts and the use of croke park to try and get as much out of the gaa as they can.
Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: Rossfan on July 09, 2014, 09:02:02 PM
He is calling their bluff. Let's wait and see who caves in.
Whose bluff exactly?
The Council's decision can't be changed or appealed, the Govt. are hardly going to pass a new Law ( which of course could be challenged in the Courts and delayed for months anyway) to overturn a Council's Planning decision after the Mahon Tribunal etc.
Only one bluffing appears to be Brooks who is cutting off his 3 Concert nose to spite his own fans.
Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: EC Unique on July 09, 2014, 09:04:17 PM
He is calling their bluff. Let's wait and see who caves in.
Whose bluff exactly?
The Council's decision can't be changed or appealed, the Govt. are hardly going to pass a new Law ( which of course could be challenged in the Courts and delayed for months anyway) to overturn a Council's Planning decision after the Mahon Tribunal etc.
Only one bluffing appears to be Brooks who is cutting off his 3 Concert nose to spite his own fans.

We will see ;)
Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: moysider on July 09, 2014, 09:07:55 PM
What's the obsession with Garth Brooks, he is pathetic

I m no fan myself either but 400,000 people obviously don t think he is pathetic.

Story in today s Indo reminding us that Liam Mulvihill was considering pulling out of Croke Park back in '89 because they were being held to ransom with astronomical land prices. He was threatening to move to a green field site and the bluff worked and they got their land.
I bet they wish now they had moved. Then they could use their property whenever and however they wished without being dictated to by the usual minority of busybodies that exist everywhere. No amount of old history with the location is worth this hassle. And there isn t that much to it anyway.
Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: foxcommander on July 09, 2014, 09:47:58 PM
He's also said his main issue was with the gaa and he's satisfied now that his point is made.

What a way to make a point. Who said begrudgery is dead in Ireland ?
Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: Bord na Mona man on July 09, 2014, 10:32:56 PM
I'd say a lot of the residents who went against the concert are shocked that they got the plug pulled on them and never intended it to go this far.
For example, every time there is a constitutional referendum, you'll get a radical fringe element who start applying for last minute High Court injunctions to get them stopped. I'd say knowing full well it's not going to succeed, but doing it for posturing and attention seeking purposes.

Could the Croke Park classic American Football game get cancelled if they start kicking up?
Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: Bord na Mona man on July 09, 2014, 10:38:57 PM
Tough decision for Enda.
400,000 punters, maybe 250,000 who are registered voters will be happy if he swings the concerts.
A couple of hundred inner city Dubliners who are unlikely to ever vote Fine Gael won't be.
Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: macdanger2 on July 09, 2014, 10:51:01 PM
The money involved should have no influence on whether the concert goes ahead or not, the Dail / council are in place to legislate, the civil service is there to implement legislation. Legislation doesn't come with a caveat that if you're providing enough cash, you can ignore the rules. It's that type of two-tiered approach that got us into the mess we're in now
Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: Zulu on July 09, 2014, 11:05:39 PM
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Youse are embarrassing yourselves lads, Brooks doesn't give one shite about Ireland or all that sail in her. His interest in Ireland and all you mugs that paid through the nose for tickets, is that some record company rep did his market research and flagged this sod as a captive market.

Has anyone ever suggested different?
Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: BennyHarp on July 09, 2014, 11:12:49 PM
This sums up both sides of the argument very well.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=uyh0WED8jGo
Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: gerrykeegan on July 09, 2014, 11:15:57 PM
We want 6! We want 6
Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: AZOffaly on July 09, 2014, 11:25:05 PM
So are they back on, or not. I was quite looking forward to the €140 back in my account. Ah well, still get the brownie points if they go ahead,
Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: Aaron Boone on July 09, 2014, 11:33:21 PM
Bank interest for Aiken/etc ain't super huge:

400,000 tkts * 70 euro avg = 28 million euros.

Interest rates are historically low (0.25-ish) so we will give him 1% to be v generous.

28m * 1% = 280,000 per year.

They got the cash 6 mths ago so €140,000 maybe ???
Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: T Fearon on July 09, 2014, 11:57:50 PM
Getting beyond a joke. Concerts off but his "guys and gear" still enroute to Ireland?
Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: ONeill on July 09, 2014, 11:58:02 PM
So are they back on, or not. I was quite looking forward to the €140 back in my account. Ah well, still get the brownie points if they go ahead,

FFS so was I. Was gonna take her out for dinner and all in Friar Tucks.
Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: orangeman on July 10, 2014, 12:53:47 AM
Big meeting tomorrow. Enda pushing hard. The day could be saved yet.
Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: foxcommander on July 10, 2014, 02:48:43 AM
Big meeting tomorrow. Enda pushing hard. The day could be saved yet.

A triumphant Enda could be the difference between him winning and losing the next election.
Fine Gael need a Garth Brooks endorsement for all their culchie voters.
Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: orangeman on July 10, 2014, 09:20:53 AM
€15000 and a suit of clothes.

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/news/resident-was-paid-15000-to-help-his-court-case-30420588.html
Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: Premier Emperor on July 10, 2014, 09:26:49 AM
Guys like him are only patsies in a bigger power game!
Money from up North! Who could that be?
Shows how easy it is to manipulate people though....
Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: orangeman on July 10, 2014, 09:32:52 AM
Guys like him are only patsies in a bigger power game!
Money from up North! Who could that be?
Shows how easy it is to manipulate people though....

How can this man have €15k put into his bank account, claim he doesn't know who put it there but say it came from the north and south ?.

He's been got at by all sides and has decided it's not worth the hassle or whatever. The GAA would have lost out here in a big way but Peter Aiken stands to lose more.
Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: NAG1 on July 10, 2014, 09:37:02 AM
€15000 and a suit of clothes.

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/news/resident-was-paid-15000-to-help-his-court-case-30420588.html

Who stands to gain by the concerts not going ahead?
Rivals of the promotion company? seems awfully shady the whole thing.
Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on July 10, 2014, 10:17:14 AM
Move them all to Long Kesh.  The Northern Politicians their €15,000 well.
Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: Under Lights on July 10, 2014, 10:18:30 AM
What's going on here? Someone give me a summary of events- in bullet points- as to where we are with this concert now.
Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: Hereiam on July 10, 2014, 10:22:49 AM
Cancel the whole dam thing. I just want my money back.
Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: laoislad on July 10, 2014, 10:25:34 AM
What's going on here? Someone give me a summary of events- in bullet points- as to where we are with this concert now.
Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: manfromdelmonte on July 10, 2014, 10:29:29 AM
I'm actually enjoying this whole saga

popcorn stuff

MEANWHILE, the government have probably made more cuts somewhere, appointed cronies to state boards, and many of them are walking off into the sunset with huge pension pots.

Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: ballinaman on July 10, 2014, 10:30:28 AM
What's going on here? Someone give me a summary of events- in bullet points- as to where we are with this concert now.
  • It's all ballinamans fault
•It's all an elaborate plan by myself to finally assassinate Mr. Brooks for the good of music worldwide. I moved into the Croke Park area 4 years ago as a long con.
Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: balladmaker on July 10, 2014, 10:34:35 AM
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Cancel the whole dam thing. I just want my money back.

+1

The whole taste has gone off the event now, too much negativity surrounding the gigs.  I reckon there won't be as big a rush the next time tickets go on sale for Garth Brooks.  The few people I've talked to who have tickets are all of the same opinion, feck Garth, Aiken and the whole shower of them, not pushed if they see him now or not.
Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: GJL on July 10, 2014, 10:36:52 AM
I have a couple of tickets for the Sat night. Hotel booked and all for 2 nights. Hope it goes ahead and at this stage I think it will. He will do the 3 nights if he does not get the 5. Too much money involved not to.
Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: deiseach on July 10, 2014, 10:38:49 AM
I thought ballinaman might be this Brian Duff chap until I read that 'they' had bought him a suit. That's just ridiculous.
Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: ballinaman on July 10, 2014, 11:04:18 AM
I thought ballinaman might be this Brian Duff chap until I read that 'they' had bought him a suit. That's just ridiculous.
Fup suits...I was spotted in Tesco on Dorset street yesterday

Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: deiseach on July 10, 2014, 11:10:53 AM
Retro chic!
Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: DoireGael on July 10, 2014, 11:32:03 AM
I can't wait to hear the ridiculous emotional speech Garth does on stage if this goes ahead, surely it is inevitable, the speech that is.. "I love you people of Ireland"

Was he not doing a major fitness routine for it, I would suspect he's carb loading as we speak.
Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: imtommygunn on July 10, 2014, 11:35:39 AM
http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/local-national/northern-ireland/mystery-grows-as-man-who-tried-to-stop-garth-brooks-gigs-claims-i-was-given-12000-to-fund-court-case-30420766.html (http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/local-national/northern-ireland/mystery-grows-as-man-who-tried-to-stop-garth-brooks-gigs-claims-i-was-given-12000-to-fund-court-case-30420766.html)
Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: DoireGael on July 10, 2014, 11:39:37 AM
€15000 and a suit of clothes.

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/news/resident-was-paid-15000-to-help-his-court-case-30420588.html

Just read this. Very strange dealing going on.

That industry seems to be full of cowboys
http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/promoter-accused-of-second-false-concert-claim-26826766.html
Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: LeoMc on July 10, 2014, 11:55:13 AM
Guys like him are only patsies in a bigger power game!
Money from up North! Who could that be?
Shows how easy it is to manipulate people though....

He refused to say who paid him but claimed it was people north and south of the border

You missed a bit.
Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: Farrandeelin on July 10, 2014, 12:38:04 PM
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Cancel the whole dam thing. I just want my money back.

+1

The whole taste has gone off the event now, too much negativity surrounding the gigs.  I reckon there won't be as big a rush the next time tickets go on sale for Garth Brooks.  The few people I've talked to who have tickets are all of the same opinion, feck Garth, Aiken and the whole shower of them, not pushed if they see him now or not.

Totally agree with this. f**k them. Have tickets myself but I'll hardly bother going now.
Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: balladmaker on July 10, 2014, 02:16:50 PM
So Dublin Lord Mayor has said steps are being taken to get Obama involved to help persuade Brooks to do the shows ...  76 people and counting dead in Gaza in last couple of days and the Irish are phoning the Whitehouse about concerts!  Embarrassing stuff.
Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: theskull1 on July 10, 2014, 02:21:11 PM
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Cancel the whole dam thing. I just want my money back.

+1

The whole taste has gone off the event now, too much negativity surrounding the gigs.  I reckon there won't be as big a rush the next time tickets go on sale for Garth Brooks.  The few people I've talked to who have tickets are all of the same opinion, feck Garth, Aiken and the whole shower of them, not pushed if they see him now or not.

Totally agree with this. f**k them. Have tickets myself but I'll hardly bother going now.

Its nice to see some Garth fans with a bit of principle.

Easy to make fools of here in Ireland it would seem. Artist & promoter taking the complete hand out of accountable public institutions knowing full well that arseh0le political leaders wh0ring for votes will come to the rescue and save the day. Fully expect Brooks to arrive and be treated like a true hero and saviour to those who can't get enough of the 20 years dormant & uncreative global star
Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: trueblue1234 on July 10, 2014, 02:31:21 PM
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Cancel the whole dam thing. I just want my money back.

+1

The whole taste has gone off the event now, too much negativity surrounding the gigs.  I reckon there won't be as big a rush the next time tickets go on sale for Garth Brooks.  The few people I've talked to who have tickets are all of the same opinion, feck Garth, Aiken and the whole shower of them, not pushed if they see him now or not.

Totally agree with this. f**k them. Have tickets myself but I'll hardly bother going now.

Its nice to see some Garth fans with a bit of principle.

Easy to make fools of here in Ireland it would seem. Artist & promoter taking the complete hand out of accountable public institutions knowing full well that arseh0le political leaders wh0ring for votes will come to the rescue and save the day. Fully expect Brooks to arrive and be treated like a true hero and saviour to those who can't get enough of the 20 years dormant & uncreative global star

Lol such a load of crap. Business men take steps to make sure profitable deal goes through. Shock horror!! Hope it goes through just to annoy the music snobs who are at pains to show how cool they are.
Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: Syferus on July 10, 2014, 02:32:51 PM
So Dublin Lord Mayor has said steps are being taken to get Obama involved to help persuade Brooks to do the shows ...  76 people and counting dead in Gaza in last couple of days and the Irish are phoning the Whitehouse about concerts!  Embarrassing stuff.

Aye. Sure because something totally unrelated to us is happening somewhere else in the world we shouldn't care about a major economic and public relations f**k-up in our own country.
Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: balladmaker on July 10, 2014, 02:36:24 PM
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Aye. Sure because something totally unrelated to us is happening somewhere else in the world we shouldn't care about a major economic and public relations f**k-up in our own country.

Just adding a little perspective, more important things in the World at present than Garth Brooks and the Dublin economy ... believe it or not.

Is Brooks of a Catholic persuasion, if so, has the Pope been contacted yet to have a word?
Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: Hereiam on July 10, 2014, 02:44:59 PM
Has someone called Willie or Jamie yet. Them two know what it takes to get things done.
Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: Rossie11 on July 10, 2014, 02:58:06 PM
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Aye. Sure because something totally unrelated to us is happening somewhere else in the world we shouldn't care about a major economic and public relations f**k-up in our own country.

Just adding a little perspective, more important things in the World at present than Garth Brooks and the Dublin economy ... believe it or not.

Is Brooks of a Catholic persuasion, if so, has the Pope been contacted yet to have a word?

How many politicians etc were rang when we got landed with a 70Billion bank debt?? Sweet FA compared to this
Perspective as right...
Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: J OGorman on July 10, 2014, 03:04:02 PM
Bwooks has been contacted, fear not.

But seriously, of all the dung that has happened in the last lock of the years , with everyone rolling over and taking a jolly rogering without much of a wimper , it takes a concert being cancelled by a spolit 50 something american to really rally the troops
Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: balladmaker on July 10, 2014, 04:41:01 PM
3 concerts now ... 2 later in the year?
Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: Under Lights on July 10, 2014, 04:49:39 PM
The 5 O'Clock meeting has been cancelled according to BBC
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Post by: balladmaker on July 10, 2014, 04:56:29 PM
The man himself is about to speak at 5 ... roll up ... www.garthbrooks.com
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Post by: theskull1 on July 10, 2014, 04:57:51 PM
The 5 O'Clock meeting has been cancelled according to BBC

Stage managed brinkmanship


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Post by: Under Lights on July 10, 2014, 05:09:03 PM
A nation holds its breath.
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Post by: ONeill on July 10, 2014, 05:12:54 PM
Off! Off! Off!
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Post by: Under Lights on July 10, 2014, 05:14:10 PM
Off! Off! Off!

I'd probably prefer a refund now just. Was never keen on going but wife wanted to go so I done the noble thing and got the tickets.
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Post by: Maguire01 on July 10, 2014, 05:37:43 PM
I've just watched a bit if his press conference live on his website. Cringefest.
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Post by: ONeill on July 10, 2014, 05:40:30 PM
He really is...the son of God.

Did he say he would go down on Enda Kenny?
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Post by: ziggysego on July 10, 2014, 05:41:02 PM
I've just watched a bit if his press conference live on his website. Cringefest.

People of Ireland, I love you. People of Limerick, I want your babies.
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Post by: Syferus on July 10, 2014, 05:54:20 PM
Jesus Christ of Almighty.

This is the gift that keeps on giving.

You must be fairly ragin' that the poor under-classes of North Dublin will be put under the kosh of five nights of cowboy-hat twirlin' after all, HS?
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Post by: ballinaman on July 10, 2014, 06:08:21 PM
Just passed this scene on the way home from work there...the bad man could be coming.


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Post by: ONeill on July 10, 2014, 06:18:48 PM
How can you not feel for these people - https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=304350543022790
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Post by: ballinaman on July 10, 2014, 06:24:30 PM
How can you not feel for these people - https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=304350543022790

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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on July 10, 2014, 06:29:10 PM
It's the vendor stuck with 2000 green cowboy hats I feel sorry for....
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Post by: Syferus on July 10, 2014, 06:33:55 PM
It's the vendor stuck with 2000 green cowboy hats I feel sorry for....

..because he'll get to sell them all now?
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Post by: EC Unique on July 10, 2014, 07:16:17 PM
How can you not feel for these people - https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=304350543022790

Good lord! :o :o :o
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Post by: rodney trotter on July 10, 2014, 07:19:58 PM
They have a deal proposed for the Garth fans http://t.co/WimJF1nUE5
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Post by: balladmaker on July 10, 2014, 07:21:47 PM
So 5 shows in 3 days ... Are refunds still an option?
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Post by: Zip Code on July 10, 2014, 08:02:11 PM
How can you not feel for these people - https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=304350543022790

I think I am going throw up.
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Post by: Kidder81 on July 10, 2014, 08:08:09 PM
Those two brutes seem deranged
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Post by: Puckoon on July 10, 2014, 08:11:19 PM
How can you not feel for these people - https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=304350543022790

I hope someone tells him what Irish Sile is.
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Post by: dec on July 10, 2014, 08:14:59 PM
80,000 people leaving Croke Park while another 80,000 are waiting to get in.

That will work flawlessly.
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Post by: balladmaker on July 10, 2014, 08:24:10 PM
Dublin hotels double their prices in last 3 hours!
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Post by: Myles Na G. on July 10, 2014, 08:26:18 PM
Those two brutes seem deranged
That is grossly unfair. On deranged people.
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Post by: balladmaker on July 10, 2014, 08:36:16 PM
Imagine 2 All Ireland finals on one day, 160,000 people looking for trains, hotels, parking spaces, madness.
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Post by: From the Bunker on July 10, 2014, 08:42:38 PM
Imagine 2 All Ireland finals on one day, 160,000 people looking for trains, hotels, parking spaces, madness.

Horse them in, Horse them out! Don't worry about the quality just think of the money! Hey we can't afford to lose a money spinner like this!

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Post by: Tony Baloney on July 10, 2014, 08:45:16 PM
Imagine 2 All Ireland finals on one day, 160,000 people looking for trains, hotels, parking spaces, madness.

Horse them in, Horse them out! Don't worry about the quality just think of the money! Hey we can't afford to lose a money spinner like this!
Two lots of people pishing in letter-boxes in one day? I suppose it gets it over with.
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Post by: bcarrier on July 10, 2014, 08:53:25 PM
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bread_and_circuses


http://www.bloombergview.com/articles/2011-06-02/the-danger-of-living-on-bread-and-circuses-alice-schroeder
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Post by: ziggysego on July 10, 2014, 09:06:14 PM
Garth Brooks has said no to 3 concerts in 5 days.
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Post by: ziggysego on July 10, 2014, 09:16:36 PM
Haha. This is the best concert there has ever been.

As much as I wanted to go, i'm enjoying this craic more.
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Post by: EC Unique on July 10, 2014, 09:22:47 PM
He is flexing his muscles again. Watch and see.
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Post by: ONeill on July 10, 2014, 09:32:02 PM
Enda Kenny has offered part of Mayo as a bribe.
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Post by: laoislad on July 10, 2014, 09:32:51 PM
Those two brutes seem deranged
That is grossly unfair. On deranged people.

Would they not be typical of most people from Tyrone?
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Post by: Syferus on July 10, 2014, 09:38:14 PM
Enda Kenny has offered part of Mayo as a bribe.

I bet the fûcker offered Ballagh >:(
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Post by: highorlow on July 10, 2014, 09:49:01 PM
On "prime time"  now on the r t e. God spare me this gombeenism. Even the IRA man can't solve this.
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Post by: squire_in_navy_slacks on July 10, 2014, 09:52:13 PM
Shameful stuff............................just when I thought as a nation we couldn't sink any lower ................................morons, sick of the GAA too, wont be renewing my season ticket
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Post by: Syferus on July 10, 2014, 10:01:14 PM
Shameful stuff............................just when I thought as a nation we couldn't sink any lower ................................morons, sick of the GAA too, wont be renewing my season ticket

Not much for Dubs to be watching these days to be fair Squire.
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Post by: squire_in_navy_slacks on July 10, 2014, 10:02:05 PM
Shameful stuff............................just when I thought as a nation we couldn't sink any lower ................................morons, sick of the GAA too, wont be renewing my season ticket

Not much for Dubs to be watching these days to be fair Squire.

true bucko
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Post by: Zip Code on July 10, 2014, 10:12:02 PM
I blame Tyrone for starting the demand!
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Post by: BennyHarp on July 10, 2014, 10:40:02 PM
Brooks says, "Create your laws, create your guidelines but don't sell a show that you're gonna just cancel on them".

We have laws & guidelines, it's just that you are looking to break them.

The selling of the shows that were cancelled (for breaking our laws & guidelines) was really up to yourself and Aiken promotions, Garth.

Who is he trying to blame here?

At least he has decreed that we can make our own laws - that's a step in the right direction.
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Post by: Aaron Boone on July 10, 2014, 11:20:05 PM
Brooks says, "Create your laws, create your guidelines but don't sell a show that you're gonna just cancel on them".

We have laws & guidelines, it's just that you are looking to break them.

The selling of the shows that were cancelled (for breaking our laws & guidelines) was really up to yourself and Aiken promotions, Garth.

Who is he trying to blame here?

At least he has decreed that we can make our own laws - that's a step in the right direction.

Garth's really after a seat in the cabinet reshuffle.
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Post by: From the Bunker on July 10, 2014, 11:20:41 PM
This reminds me of Saipan. The great thing about this compared to Saipan is I am emotionally detached! I am enjoying watching the big wigs squirm to try and get their golden goose to lay the Golden eggs. The longer this drags out the the more we see the real greed of the corporate music industry surface. Most people (fans) I have talked to say the good has been taken out of the whole event weather it goes ahead or not.
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Post by: Hereiam on July 10, 2014, 11:34:09 PM
I will say it again. Give us our money back. These concerts are gone and so is any good that would have come from them.
Ireland = a country that has not the cabability to rule itself and is destant for failure as a nation.
People may laugh an say it is only a music concert but if you stand back and look at it, this shambles has all the ingredients that fcuked this country
- greed
- lies
- poor management

Lets just draw a line under it and we can all go a see Tyrone lift sam in September.
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Post by: Tony Baloney on July 10, 2014, 11:41:22 PM
Can't wait til this all comes to Casement.

Although we've already had the greed, lies and poor management there.
With Nathan Carter.
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Post by: BennyCake on July 10, 2014, 11:50:44 PM
I can't help thinking about those eejits that queued for tickets for 5 days. Feckin' mental behaviour. It's good enough for them.
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Post by: clarshack on July 11, 2014, 12:40:39 AM
I have 2 tickets for the sunday show but at this stage i just want the money back. I'd say a lot of people now feel like this.


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Post by: rrhf on July 11, 2014, 12:56:34 AM
"If there is anyone in Ireland who is feeling sad about this, you're not 1 billionth as sad as me. I'm the real loser in this."

He's like a country & western Pastor McConnell.
You are full of crap but that is my post of the week. We'll done.
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Post by: Sidney on July 11, 2014, 01:42:40 AM
GB Loyalists planning July 12th protest march and call for Obama to launch drone strikes against Croke Park residents

July 11th, 2014

The newly formed "GB Loyalists" group has announced it is to stage a march in protest against the cancellation of five Croke Park concerts by US country music star, Garth Brooks. The route of the march, to take place on Saturday July 12th, includes Jones' Road and Clonliffe Road before finishing at Drumcondra Church. However the Croke Park Area Residents Association says that the local community is completely opposed to the march and will block the route.

Proximity talks between the residents  and the GB Loyalists broke down last night after a planned compromise to let the march go ahead without music was rejected by both sides. 

GB Loyalists' Grand Master Johnnie O'Dare was emphatic that the march would go ahead. "We will march down Jones' Road to Drumcondra Church on Saturday, and if they try and stop us we'll stay here until Christmas if we have to."

"There's no fookin' way this march is gettin' through", said Residents Association chairman Alser O'Toole last night. "Years ago the Loyalists tried to march down Garvaghy Road - well this is Garth-vaghy Road as far as we're concerned. We have to live here. We don't want them marching down our streets dressed in their stetson hats and playing their poxy country and western music. It's the children I'm thinking of most, here.  This type of thing can be very damaging to them, inthebleedinanyways."

In a dramatic escalation of the stakes yesterday, O'Dare contacted the White House to try and get US President Barack Obama to intervene in the dispute, and called for tough action to be taken against the residents. "The time for talking is over. The people of this country want action. The people of this country will fight  and the people of this country will be right.  It's time for drone strikes against the residents."

O'Toole responded to O'Dare's incendiary comments. "Have ya ever heard a Garth Brooks song? Drone is fuckin' right! These concerts will be like five fookin' massive drone strikes against the whole fookin' area."

When asked if getting Barack Obama  involved would be a massive waste of the US President's time, at a moment of crisis in both the Israeli-Palestinian conflict and Iraq, as Islamic fundamentalists establish control over large areas of the country, O'Dare was firm. "Sure nobody cares about the f**king Middle East. Look it. It's like this. People can complain all they want about shutting down hospitals, cutting allowances for carers and special needs assistants, the unemployment, banks  pissing 100 billion quid of public money down the toilet. At the end of the day, nobody really cares about these things. Nobody protests. The Garth Brooks concerts - now there's something that people really care about and are willing to protest about.  People in Roscommon might complain about Enda Kenny shutting down A&E facilities in Roscommon hospital, but if he can get these concerts to go ahead, he'll be a hero there forever."

O'Dare was emphatic in his view that the both the July 12th march and the concerts must go ahead. "The people of this country have suffered many great historical injustices over the years. The Saipan affair, the Thierry Henry handball, Mary Byrne being voted off X-Factor, Brian O'Driscoll being dropped by the British Loins, the GAA selling rights to Sky, and now this, the biggest injustice of them all. We cannot let this happen. We will march. We will protest.  We will flood Liveline with calls every day. We will fight for our country (music). We will never surrender. Yeehaw."

Gardai have drafted in extra reserves for an expected clash on Saturday, and will use riot shields and water cannons if necessary.

Dublin today braces itself for what could well be a tempestuous 12th of July.
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Post by: Corner Forward on July 11, 2014, 08:15:51 AM
GB Loyalists planning July 12th protest march and call for Obama to launch drone strikes against Croke Park residents

July 11th, 2014

The newly formed "GB Loyalists" group has announced it is to stage a march in protest against the cancellation of five Croke Park concerts by US country music star, Garth Brooks. The route of the march, to take place on Saturday July 12th, includes Jones' Road and Clonliffe Road before finishing at Drumcondra Church. However the Croke Park Area Residents Association says that the local community is completely opposed to the march and will block the route.

Proximity talks between the residents  and the GB Loyalists broke down last night after a planned compromise to let the march go ahead without music was rejected by both sides. 

GB Loyalists' Grand Master Johnnie O'Dare was emphatic that the march would go ahead. "We will march down Jones' Road to Drumcondra Church on Saturday, and if they try and stop us we'll stay here until Christmas if we have to."

"There's no fookin' way this march is gettin' through", said Residents Association chairman Alser O'Toole last night. "Years ago the Loyalists tried to march down Garvaghy Road - well this is Garth-vaghy Road as far as we're concerned. We have to live here. We don't want them marching down our streets dressed in their stetson hats and playing their poxy country and western music. It's the children I'm thinking of most, here.  This type of thing can be very damaging to them, inthebleedinanyways."

In a dramatic escalation of the stakes yesterday, O'Dare contacted the White House to try and get US President Barack Obama to intervene in the dispute, and called for tough action to be taken against the residents. "The time for talking is over. The people of this country want action. The people of this country will fight  and the people of this country will be right.  It's time for drone strikes against the residents."

O'Toole responded to O'Dare's incendiary comments. "Have ya ever heard a Garth Brooks song? Drone is fuckin' right! These concerts will be like five fookin' massive drone strikes against the whole fookin' area."

When asked if getting Barack Obama  involved would be a massive waste of the US President's time, at a moment of crisis in both the Israeli-Palestinian conflict and Iraq, as Islamic fundamentalists establish control over large areas of the country, O'Dare was firm. "Sure nobody cares about the f**king Middle East. Look it. It's like this. People can complain all they want about shutting down hospitals, cutting allowances for carers and special needs assistants, the unemployment, banks  pissing 100 billion quid of public money down the toilet. At the end of the day, nobody really cares about these things. Nobody protests. The Garth Brooks concerts - now there's something that people really care about and are willing to protest about.  People in Roscommon might complain about Enda Kenny shutting down A&E facilities in Roscommon hospital, but if he can get these concerts to go ahead, he'll be a hero there forever."

O'Dare was emphatic in his view that the both the July 12th march and the concerts must go ahead. "The people of this country have suffered many great historical injustices over the years. The Saipan affair, the Thierry Henry handball, Mary Byrne being voted off X-Factor, Brian O'Driscoll being dropped by the British Loins, the GAA selling rights to Sky, and now this, the biggest injustice of them all. We cannot let this happen. We will march. We will protest.  We will flood Liveline with calls every day. We will fight for our country (music). We will never surrender. Yeehaw."

Gardai have drafted in extra reserves for an expected clash on Saturday, and will use riot shields and water cannons if necessary.

Dublin today braces itself for what could well be a tempestuous 12th of July.


Pure Gold...
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Post by: THE MIGHTY QUINN on July 11, 2014, 08:46:24 AM
Can't wait til this all comes to Casement.

Although we've already had the greed, lies and poor management there.
You'll not have to wait that long. Kaiser Chiefs play Falls Park on 9 August. Hope to be there
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Post by: bcarrier on July 11, 2014, 09:15:11 AM
This one will run and run now.

Change in Aiken's language. They did get all 5 concerts licensed. 

The case for Aiken : Brooks "rejected" a deal to play all 5.

Brooks defence : The "set was designed for night time performances".

Maybe he will be biggest loser yet  ;).
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Post by: highorlow on July 11, 2014, 09:37:55 AM
This saga and brooks behaviour is getting bizarre. Something odd now about the whole thing. If it's drama he wanted for the movie (I believe) he is shooting then he has got it.
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Post by: THE MIGHTY QUINN on July 11, 2014, 09:52:46 AM
Feile has been run quite well actually.
And always a right few free tickets knocking about.
 :)
Where's the best place to go looking for them
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Post by: THE MIGHTY QUINN on July 11, 2014, 09:53:52 AM
Actually, on second thoughts, forget I said that
Title: FAO HARSTATION
Post by: Under Lights on July 11, 2014, 09:55:17 AM
What's your favourite Meatloaf song?
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Post by: ballinaman on July 11, 2014, 10:06:24 AM
Lad pissed on the way home last night about 2am shouting/singing ...."There's only one Garth Brooks....There's only one Garth Brooks". Lovely voice too...a lot like Celine Dion

haha... ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: FAO HARSTATION
Post by: Under Lights on July 11, 2014, 10:10:47 AM
What's your favourite Meatloaf song?
3 outta 5 ain't bad.

Mine's probably I would do anything for love.
Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: THE MIGHTY QUINN on July 11, 2014, 10:28:06 AM
All revved up with no place to go
Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: ziggysego on July 11, 2014, 10:48:08 AM
Feile has been run quite well actually.
And always a right few free tickets knocking about.
 :)

I got tickets for Paddy McDonnell and Jason Manford.
Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: Denn Forever on July 11, 2014, 10:58:06 AM
Quote
Brooks defence : The "set was designed for night time performances".

Even Garth isn't confident that his  music is good enough.
Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: Sidney on July 11, 2014, 11:10:59 AM
This one will run and run now.

Change in Aiken's language. They did get all 5 concerts licensed. 

The case for Aiken : Brooks "rejected" a deal to play all 5.

Brooks defence : The "set was designed for night time performances".

Maybe he will be biggest loser yet  ;).
The promoter and Garth Brooks are to release a new duet to mark the Croke Park concert debacle.

"Aiken, Breakin' Heart" is under no circumstances to be confused with Billy Ray Cyrus's "Achy Breaky Heart".
Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: THE MIGHTY QUINN on July 11, 2014, 11:50:18 AM
Feile has been run quite well actually.
And always a right few free tickets knocking about.
 :)

I got tickets for Paddy McDonnell and Jason Manford.
Free tickets?  I don't mind paying in the see the Kaiser Chiefs, tickets are only £25 plus ticketmaster's fee, but I'm damned if Ill be the only fecker in the place who actually parted with money to get in
Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: ziggysego on July 11, 2014, 12:12:03 PM
Feile has been run quite well actually.
And always a right few free tickets knocking about.
 :)

I got tickets for Paddy McDonnell and Jason Manford.
Free tickets?  I don't mind paying in the see the Kaiser Chiefs, tickets are only £25 plus ticketmaster's fee, but I'm damned if Ill be the only fecker in the place who actually parted with money to get in

Na, paid for them
Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: ONeill on July 11, 2014, 12:44:51 PM
This is just so moving: http://www.tyronetimes.co.uk/news/tyrone-news/video-dreams-shattered-memories-gone-distraught-brooks-fans-mount-dungannon-vigil-1-6173202
Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: johnneycool on July 11, 2014, 01:28:04 PM
so is this (courtesy of Waterford Whispers);


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Post by: blewuporstuffed on July 11, 2014, 02:42:03 PM
This is just so moving: http://www.tyronetimes.co.uk/news/tyrone-news/video-dreams-shattered-memories-gone-distraught-brooks-fans-mount-dungannon-vigil-1-6173202

One for the WTF? thread

 ???
Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: deiseach on July 11, 2014, 02:51:27 PM
so is this (courtesy of Waterford Whispers);




Get Frank Kelly to read that out.
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Post by: Keepthefaith93 on July 11, 2014, 02:54:16 PM
 :o :o :o :o :o
Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: NAG1 on July 11, 2014, 03:00:03 PM
This is just so moving: http://www.tyronetimes.co.uk/news/tyrone-news/video-dreams-shattered-memories-gone-distraught-brooks-fans-mount-dungannon-vigil-1-6173202

One for the WTF? thread

 ???

Is that a piss take? Can't be for real surely?
Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: ziggysego on July 11, 2014, 03:00:36 PM
so is this (courtesy of Waterford Whispers);




Surely more like Tyrone Tributionals ;)
Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: michaelg on July 11, 2014, 03:03:19 PM
This is just so moving: http://www.tyronetimes.co.uk/news/tyrone-news/video-dreams-shattered-memories-gone-distraught-brooks-fans-mount-dungannon-vigil-1-6173202

One for the WTF? thread

 ???
How many pages was that poem / song / or whatever the f**k it was?
Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: Mike Sheehy on July 11, 2014, 05:37:12 PM
Jesus, first they inflict puke football on us and now this.



Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: tyroneboi on July 11, 2014, 05:46:49 PM
Holy mother of God that is embarrassing!! i love the way they say 'come home Garth' as if he has run away from home!!
Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: Maguire01 on July 11, 2014, 06:16:27 PM
Holy mother of God that is embarrassing!! i love the way they say 'come home Garth' as if he has run away from home!!
#letthemhome
Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: BennyCake on July 11, 2014, 07:00:25 PM
This is just so moving: http://www.tyronetimes.co.uk/news/tyrone-news/video-dreams-shattered-memories-gone-distraught-brooks-fans-mount-dungannon-vigil-1-6173202

Jesus H Corbett.

Embarrassing is not the word.
Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: highorlow on July 11, 2014, 07:08:28 PM
Yer wan in the black t-shirt reminds me of liz Hurley.
Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: ballinaman on July 11, 2014, 08:13:56 PM
Yer wan in the black t-shirt reminds me of liz Hurley.
Aye..imagine her in the safety pin dress..get a good mental image now...you're sitting there with a big smile on your face...ya dirty fecker... :P
Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: Tony Baloney on July 11, 2014, 08:24:56 PM
It's a gig run by the shinners in Andytown.
You'll certainly be in the minority if you've paid.
A bit like "the McCooey gate" at Casement.
Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: highorlow on July 12, 2014, 12:02:22 AM
It's the Leitrim liz I was on about.
Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: balladmaker on July 12, 2014, 12:50:58 AM
The thing about Brooks and his global status, love him or loathe him, is that he probably did more for Irish tourism during his brief press conference on Thursday than Discover Ireland or the government could do in years.  In fairness to him, he went out of his way to promote Ireland as a place to visit, when he didn't have to, so he seemed genuine enough about that.  "Go to Ireland, it's the most beautiful place in the world, the nicest people anywhere, you'll have the best time of your life.  Irrespective of what happens these shows, I will always encourage people to visit Ireland, take your children and have the time of your life".

So, imagine what these shows could have done once released on DVD, once the TV special went out in the US and wherever else ... the 50 million loss from the weekend is only a fraction of the long term gain that could have been made.  If ever a country just screwed itself, it's Ireland once again.
Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: T Fearon on July 12, 2014, 05:59:27 AM
Imagine the outpouring of emotion during the gigs if they actually take place.It'll be akin to the release of the Birmingham 6 and Guildford 4
Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: BennyHarp on July 12, 2014, 09:29:05 AM
The thing about Brooks and his global status, love him or loathe him, is that he probably did more for Irish tourism during his brief press conference on Thursday than Discover Ireland or the government could do in years.  In fairness to him, he went out of his way to promote Ireland as a place to visit, when he didn't have to, so he seemed genuine enough about that.  "Go to Ireland, it's the most beautiful place in the world, the nicest people anywhere, you'll have the best time of your life.  Irrespective of what happens these shows, I will always encourage people to visit Ireland, take your children and have the time of your life".

So, imagine what these shows could have done once released on DVD, once the TV special went out in the US and wherever else ... the 50 million loss from the weekend is only a fraction of the long term gain that could have been made.  If ever a country just screwed itself, it's Ireland once again.

Are you serious? I must get my mother to open up her house as a b&b to help cope with the hoards of tourists after Garth decrees Ireland as a good place to visit.
Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: orangeman on July 12, 2014, 09:52:00 AM
Garth is working for Garth. Garth will say and do whatever is needed. Didn't he say he'd walk, crawl, swim or fly so as not to disappoint his fans ?.

A professional in every way.
Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: AZOffaly on July 12, 2014, 10:32:48 AM
Garth is working for Garth. Garth will say and do whatever is needed. Didn't he say he'd walk, crawl, swim or fly so as not to disappoint his fans ?.

A professional in every way.

So which is he doing? If he crawls from Tulsa he'll not arrive in time for the gigs anyway.
Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: ziggysego on July 12, 2014, 10:42:09 AM
Where are we with this now? All gone very quiet.

I imagine the refunding process would have to be well under way at this stage??

Or is there another episode of Garth's "muscle flexing" due soon, EC?

Tuesday. That's basically the deadline to sort it out one way or the other. To be honest, I don't care if it goes ahead any more.
Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: orangeman on July 12, 2014, 10:43:50 AM
Garth is working for Garth. Garth will say and do whatever is needed. Didn't he say he'd walk, crawl, swim or fly so as not to disappoint his fans ?.

A professional in every way.

So which is he doing? If he crawls from Tulsa he'll not arrive in time for the gigs anyway.

Rodeo.
Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: EC Unique on July 12, 2014, 11:49:31 AM
Where are we with this now? All gone very quiet.

I imagine the refunding process would have to be well under way at this stage??

Or is there another episode of Garth's "muscle flexing" due soon, EC?

I think you are just slightly obsessed with this. You need to step back a bit for the good of hour health.

I would be surprised if brooks does not get to play. I would imagine deals are being hammered out as we speak. I hope so as too much money is to be lost for the sake of a few residents.
Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: Zip Code on July 12, 2014, 12:02:48 PM
http://www.irishmirror.ie/whats-on/whats-on-news/video-hitler-reacts-news-garth-3833401 (http://www.irishmirror.ie/whats-on/whats-on-news/video-hitler-reacts-news-garth-3833401)

Maybe it is buried in the 58 pages so apologies if it was posted before.
Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: Maguire01 on July 12, 2014, 01:02:20 PM
Where are we with this now? All gone very quiet.

I imagine the refunding process would have to be well under way at this stage??

Or is there another episode of Garth's "muscle flexing" due soon, EC?

Tuesday. That's basically the deadline to sort it out one way or the other. To be honest, I don't care if it goes ahead any more.
A lot of people saying that. Suggests a fairly fickle bunch who got caught up in the hype, rather than being actual fans of the music.
Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: balladmaker on July 12, 2014, 01:06:44 PM
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Are you serious? I must get my mother to open up her house as a b&b to help cope with the hoards of tourists after Garth decrees Ireland as a good place to visit.

Yes on both counts ... Yes, I'm serious, and yes, get your mother to open a B&B.

You can start with the 70,000 additional visitors his shows alone were/are bringing to Ireland, then when the TV special goes out in the US, and he's sitting at the Cliffs of Moher singing a song, and down in a Dingle pub doing the same, and Slea Head, and around Dublin ... A lot more will put Ireland on their travel plans, it's known as marketing, it works.  Brooks was to stay in Ireland into August to record at locations around the country.
Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: ballinaman on July 12, 2014, 01:10:24 PM
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Are you serious? I must get my mother to open up her house as a b&b to help cope with the hoards of tourists after Garth decrees Ireland as a good place to visit.

Yes on both counts ... Yes, I'm serious, and yes, get your mother to open a B&B.

You can start with the 70,000 additional visitors his shows alone were/are bringing to Ireland, then when the TV special goes out in the US, and he's sitting at the Cliffs of Moher singing a song, and down in a Dingle pub doing the same, and Slea Head, and around Dublin ... A lot more will put Ireland on their travel plans, it's known as marketing, it works.  Brooks was to stay in Ireland into August to record at locations around the country.
When will he be sitting on the edge of the cliffs of Moher?

Asking for a friend.
Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: ziggysego on July 12, 2014, 02:57:50 PM
Where are we with this now? All gone very quiet.

I imagine the refunding process would have to be well under way at this stage??

Or is there another episode of Garth's "muscle flexing" due soon, EC?

Tuesday. That's basically the deadline to sort it out one way or the other. To be honest, I don't care if it goes ahead any more.
A lot of people saying that. Suggests a fairly fickle bunch who got caught up in the hype, rather than being actual fans of the music.

Hardly.
Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: Zip Code on July 12, 2014, 02:59:59 PM
Hardly! - most who bought tickets probably never heard of the man.
Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: ziggysego on July 12, 2014, 03:02:17 PM
Hardly! - most who bought tickets probably never heard of the man.

I'm a fan, have been since my young days. Saw Garth in the Kings Hall in 1997. Fantastic show. This whole PR disaster and cringey stage-managed live feed by Garth on Thursday has left a bad taste in my mouth.
Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: under the bar on July 12, 2014, 03:23:23 PM
90% of the tickets for the first 3 shows were bought by touts to resell on eBay and the likes.   The South Derry wans are shameless about selling tickets in the paper at 5 times their face value so expect a few cars burned out over the coming weeks if refunds aren't forthcoming?!
Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: ONeill on July 12, 2014, 10:33:45 PM
90% of the tickets for the first 3 shows were bought by touts to resell on eBay and the likes.   The South Derry wans are shameless about selling tickets in the paper at 5 times their face value so expect a few cars burned out over the coming weeks if refunds aren't forthcoming?!

90%?
Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: Gaffer on July 14, 2014, 07:51:12 PM
5 concerts are not going ahead!!!
Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: ONeill on July 14, 2014, 08:07:24 PM
So no refund. FFS.
Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: muppet on July 14, 2014, 08:13:42 PM
5 concerts are going ahead!!!

I heard he now has asked for 6.

Pity he wasn't here when Lenihan & Cowan capitulated to Trichet.
Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: ONeill on July 14, 2014, 08:17:07 PM
Anyone looking tickets?
Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: Captain Obvious on July 14, 2014, 09:59:44 PM
All gigs off latest Garth Brooks statement.
Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: muppet on July 14, 2014, 10:01:27 PM
All gigs off latest Garth Brooks statement.

Still holding out for 6?
Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: Shamrock Shore on July 14, 2014, 10:07:06 PM
How many times can the hoor cancel the same concerts! What a pile of poo on his statement about his Mom
Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: Bensars on July 14, 2014, 10:34:05 PM
All I see is my mother's face......

Sweet lord. What a total walt.

Still funny though.

FWIW, it's not off til Paul the Octopus, sorry, EC Unique confirms it.

Or when Orangeman cuts and pastes from the BBC website. I won't believe it until he highlights it in bold !
Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: orangeman on July 14, 2014, 10:45:04 PM
All I see is my mother's face......

Sweet lord. What a total walt.

Still funny though.

FWIW, it's not off til Paul the Octopus, sorry, EC Unique confirms it.

Or when Orangeman cuts and pastes from the BBC website. I won't believe it until he highlights it in bold !

I'm still hoping he does the 5 so I'm not for doing that. And definitely not in bold. It would be the final nail in the coffin for the Tyrone fans.
Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: Wildweasel74 on July 14, 2014, 10:58:32 PM
can someone remind me now why exactly Garth brooks could not go ahead with 3 shows, what exact reasonable reason did he give for 5 concerts and not 3
Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: orangeman on July 14, 2014, 11:02:00 PM
All I see is my mother's face......

Sweet lord. What a total walt.

Still funny though.

FWIW, it's not off til Paul the Octopus, sorry, EC Unique confirms it.


“I love you, always have, always will,”  Garth statement to his loyal Tyrone following.
Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: ONeill on July 14, 2014, 11:21:58 PM
I don't think he could be bothered coming over.

Or maybe it's a bigger plan. He comes over in 2015 and 3 million go.
Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: Myles Na G. on July 15, 2014, 12:07:47 AM
can someone remind me now why exactly Garth brooks could not go ahead with 3 shows, what exactly reasonable reason did he give for 5 concerts and not 3
I cannot understand that at all. The only two answers I've heard are:
1) he's a man of great principle...........ahem, ask the ex wife.
2) it would be like picking between your children.

Honestly, I think he's a greedy ballix who tried brinkmanship to bully his way to the 5 nights.
It's kind of difficult to overturn an analogy of choosing between children.
As Dara O'Briain has pointed out, Garth Brooks thinks that the solution to choosing between your children is to let them all die.
Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: Clinker on July 15, 2014, 01:24:01 AM
This is bad. Catholic Church are gone. Fianna Fáil are coiling up from their damaging record. Fine Gael are woeful. We were in a position to reap the rewards and the people would reward us with their money. Why can the GAA not create a new money rules all society with the mugs at the bottom being volunteers for the greater good?

The residents around Casement Park were offered over one and a half million between themselves but they have refused that money.
(and that figure is correct - house to house  according to illegal boundary intrusions involving lack of light)

What sort of people would bring us to court over being locked down for five days in their homes?
Why would Belfast Irish people bring us to court when we are doing so much for society?
Why would these Belfast eejits refuse money in exchange for the lives that they know now when we can give them more?
Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: THE MIGHTY QUINN on July 15, 2014, 04:15:03 AM
Some classic stuff here. Regardless of how much you hate him, and I detest him, fact is that the country and the GAA, the organisation most of us are members of, have lost a lot of money. Reminds me of the time The Beatles Apple Boutique went bust and the Fab Four were allowed their pick of the clothes the night before it closed.  Their biographer wrote -  they gleefully went through the stuff, picking out what they wanted, as if it was coming for free. They didn't seem to appreciate for one moment that the stuff had been bought with their own money in the first place
Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: Aaron Boone on July 15, 2014, 08:06:26 AM
3 extra Brooks gigs were on the table for Oct in addition to the 3 allowed later this month. What Garth couldn't get his head around was why the original Dublin CC decision was irreversible, despite 40% of original objections now deemed questionable.

The man who made that decision, Owen Keegan, is before one of the Dail committees today.
Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: johnneycool on July 15, 2014, 08:24:03 AM
Some classic stuff here. Regardless of how much you hate him, and I detest him, fact is that the country and the GAA, the organisation most of us are members of, have lost a lot of money. Reminds me of the time The Beatles Apple Boutique went bust and the Fab Four were allowed their pick of the clothes the night before it closed.  Their biographer wrote -  they gleefully went through the stuff, picking out what they wanted, as if it was coming for free. They didn't seem to appreciate for one moment that the stuff had been bought with their own money in the first place

The GAA, Aiken and Co tried a bit of brinksmanship with this and got burned and IMO rightly so. They knew they were only allowed three gigs in the year as part of the initial planning application for the redevelopment and with 1D already having played, they pushed for two, then three and the straw that broke the camels back was the additional fourth and fifth gigs.
Greed, pure and simple.
Mr McKenna needs a boot up the hole for bringing the whole association into disrepute. As much as revenue is a basic need for the GAA, we need to have some sort of boundaries of decency and ethics which are not breached in the pursuit of it.
Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: Never beat the deeler on July 15, 2014, 08:36:09 AM
can someone remind me now why exactly Garth brooks could not go ahead with 3 shows, what exactly reasonable reason did he give for 5 concerts and not 3
I cannot understand that at all. The only two answers I've heard are:
1) he's a man of great principle...........ahem, ask the ex wife.
2) it would be like picking between your children.

Honestly, I think he's a greedy ballix who tried brinkmanship to bully his way to the 5 nights.
It's kind of difficult to overturn an analogy of choosing between children.
As Dara O'Briain has pointed out, Garth Brooks thinks that the solution to choosing between your children is to let them all die.

The irony is he has 3 children so he could have picked them all
Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: Bensars on July 15, 2014, 09:33:28 AM
Refreshing to see on many levels that the rule was upheld irrespective of the money involved.

As for Brooks , he is in my opinion a bullsh*t artist and the press conferences proved this. He has no care or "love" for the people of Ireland. This is a simple case of a star used to getting their own way, throwing the toys out of the pram. If he has so much concern and "love" for the fans, let him foot the bill for those out of pocket on hotel deposits, airline costs etc.

The more this has gone, Brooks has become more transparent as a petulant superstar having a tantrum
Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: Syferus on July 15, 2014, 09:47:08 AM
On the (second) Westport-Dublin train. Usually not this wedged unless the Rhubarbs are going up to Croker for a hiding. Just a random Tuesday in July and it's filled with tourists.

It's easy to forget what a magnet our island is for holiday makers.

Anything that harms our international reputation for travellers - a nice chunk of the Brooks tickets were foreign sales by all accounts - is no laughing matter. Too much at stake.
Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: armaghniac on July 15, 2014, 10:17:48 AM
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Tis True- off the back of this shambles I have decided not to even consider Croke Park as part of my world tour.

Garth Brooks, like Tyrone, fails to reach Croke park in his plans and disappoints fans. That's a double whammy for many in Philomena Begley country.
Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: orangeman on July 15, 2014, 10:44:35 AM
Some classic stuff here. Regardless of how much you hate him, and I detest him, fact is that the country and the GAA, the organisation most of us are members of, have lost a lot of money. Reminds me of the time The Beatles Apple Boutique went bust and the Fab Four were allowed their pick of the clothes the night before it closed.  Their biographer wrote -  they gleefully went through the stuff, picking out what they wanted, as if it was coming for free. They didn't seem to appreciate for one moment that the stuff had been bought with their own money in the first place

The GAA, Aiken and Co tried a bit of brinksmanship with this and got burned and IMO rightly so. They knew they were only allowed three gigs in the year as part of the initial planning application for the redevelopment and with 1D already having played, they pushed for two, then three and the straw that broke the camels back was the additional fourth and fifth gigs.
Greed, pure and simple.
Mr McKenna needs a boot up the hole for bringing the whole association into disrepute. As much as revenue is a basic need for the GAA, we need to have some sort of boundaries of decency and ethics which are not breached in the pursuit of it.


7.3.e apparently.  ;) :)
Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: ardtole on July 15, 2014, 10:50:52 AM
Some classic stuff here. Regardless of how much you hate him, and I detest him, fact is that the country and the GAA, the organisation most of us are members of, have lost a lot of money. Reminds me of the time The Beatles Apple Boutique went bust and the Fab Four were allowed their pick of the clothes the night before it closed.  Their biographer wrote -  they gleefully went through the stuff, picking out what they wanted, as if it was coming for free. They didn't seem to appreciate for one moment that the stuff had been bought with their own money in the first place

The GAA, Aiken and Co tried a bit of brinksmanship with this and got burned and IMO rightly so. They knew they were only allowed three gigs in the year as part of the initial planning application for the redevelopment and with 1D already having played, they pushed for two, then three and the straw that broke the camels back was the additional fourth and fifth gigs.
Greed, pure and simple.
Mr McKenna needs a boot up the hole for bringing the whole association into disrepute. As much as revenue is a basic need for the GAA, we need to have some sort of boundaries of decency and ethics which are not breached in the pursuit of it.


I agree 100% with you Johnnycool.
Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: imtommygunn on July 15, 2014, 10:53:37 AM
Likewise. The whole thing stinks of greed. It could have been done and dusted at 3 concerts.

Brooks looks like a complete tool out of this.

Also it is quite sinister about the guy who was paid to go to court about it by several parties.

Basically some parties got greedy and then the expectation by some has been that politicans allow the way for it go through. Why should they? (apart from brown envelopes...)

Yes it is a bad thing for Ireland as there is a significant loss of revenue but bully boys tactics can't be allowed to win.

Hopefully longer term it will have no effect other than Garth Brooks won't come back.
Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: thebigfella on July 15, 2014, 10:58:53 AM
Anyone deluded enough to think this shambles damages Ireland reputation really needs to get out of the country a bit more. No one gives a fcuk apart from Garth Brooks fans and media outlets trying to sell papers.

There would be more eyebrows raised internationally if planning regulations where amended or bypassed just to allow the gigs to go ahead. The planning laws are there for the common good but we should ignore them for vested interests?

I also don't agree with the massive losses gains for the economy statement. The money that could have been spent is disposable income, the majority of it will be disposed of in other ways. So what about the money; at least we can all hold our heads up internationally as we didn't bow down to the rich yank (who threw his toy's out of the pram) for a few dollars.
Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: rodney trotter on July 15, 2014, 11:19:20 AM
3 was the Quota at at a particular time not above that.   They got the go ahead for this for and then 5.I don't know the problem with the American football game is, its been played in Croke Park for the past years, college game.
Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: westbound on July 15, 2014, 11:48:13 AM
I think the american football game doesn't come into it because it is a sporting event. There is no limit on the number of sporting events which can be held in croke park (because it is a sports stadium after all!) and no licence needs to be applied for afaik. The issue is with non-sporting events that need a licence/planning application.
Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: ballinaman on July 15, 2014, 11:53:10 AM
Here's me listening to Garth strolling down Jones Road this morning...


Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: deiseach on July 15, 2014, 11:57:02 AM
Here's me listening to Garth strolling down Jones Road this morning...




Mayo man doing that on Jones' Road . . . nah, that's too easy!
Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: ballinaman on July 15, 2014, 11:59:49 AM
Here's me listening to Garth strolling down Jones Road this morning...




Mayo man doing that on Jones' Road . . . nah, that's too easy!
I know...IMAGINE THE DANCE when the big day does come...it'll be biblical...
Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: Under Lights on July 15, 2014, 12:16:41 PM
Ticketmaster have come out of this looking very well imo. They have handled the information processing since the shambles occurred very well. I have received three emails from them to update the situation. This is the latest.

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Garth Brooks Refunds - No Action Is Required By You
Dear customer,
Ticketmaster has received confirmation that none of Garth Brooks 5 dates at Croke Park will now take place.   
The ticket return process will begin on Thursday 17 July.
IMPORTANT: NO ACTION IS REQUIRED ON YOUR PART - As you purchased your ticket(s) over the phone, online or on your mobile device no action is required on your part.
On Thursday, 17 July a full refund including service charge will automatically be issued to the card used to make the purchase. Please allow 7-10 working days for the refund to reach your account.
Best wishes,
Ticketmaster Customer Services
Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: muppet on July 15, 2014, 12:17:51 PM
Traditionally the big man would have got his way in Ireland.

That is what McCreevy & Harney meant by 'light touch regulation'. This wouldn't have happened on Bertie's watch, or, God forbid, CJH's.

If your are made of money and have a problem, don't worry, we will bend the law, amend the law or ignore the law, to see you right. That ideology completely screwed us before and is still prevalent.

That for me is the great disappointment of this government. We all know it was the previous one which destroyed the country, but this one has dismantled none of the weapons used in doing it.

All and sundry from Enda to the Shinners tried to 'find a way' which is a euphemism for the above ideology. Fianna Fáil tabled emergency legislation to get around the council ffs!

I am not a killjoy but for once I am delighted to see a process and a ruling upheld, even if it is inconvenient for some important people.
Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: armaghniac on July 15, 2014, 12:18:54 PM
Ticketmaster have come out of this looking very well imo. They have handled the information processing since the shambles occurred very well. I have received three emails from them to update the situation. This is the latest.

Ticketmaster are well used to rearrangements,

But if you paid with a sterling card, will you get back what you paid  or will you get 4% less going to the bank?
Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: ONeill on July 15, 2014, 12:28:11 PM
They're back on!
Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: muppet on July 15, 2014, 12:41:01 PM
They're back on!

Off again.

Garth's boots set off the metal detector in Tenessee airport. He has been arrested for saying 'God Damn it!' to the machine. Local sources say he could get 15 years.
Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: ONeill on July 15, 2014, 12:45:27 PM
FFS
Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: Rossfan on July 15, 2014, 01:22:46 PM
Now maybe the Politicians can get down to the job they were elected for -running the Country, sorting out the Health system - we spend about the same % as most Countries on our Health System yet we have one of the wprst in Europe.
Abolish the HSE and let the Dept of Health oversee a patient/sick person centred system -we've only 4.6 million population FFS.
Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: thebigfella on July 15, 2014, 01:25:11 PM
Traditionally the big man would have got his way in Ireland.

That is what McCreevy & Harney meant by 'light touch regulation'. This wouldn't have happened on Bertie's watch, or, God forbid, CJH's.

If your are made of money and have a problem, don't worry, we will bend the law, amend the law or ignore the law, to see you right. That ideology completely screwed us before and is still prevalent.

That for me is the great disappointment of this government. We all know it was the previous one which destroyed the country, but this one has dismantled none of the weapons used in doing it.

All and sundry from Enda to the Shinners tried to 'find a way' which is a euphemism for the above ideology. Fianna Fáil tabled emergency legislation to get around the council ffs!

I am not a killjoy but for once I am delighted to see a process and a ruling upheld, even if it is inconvenient for some important people.

That's it in a nutshell... it kind of annoys me there was even discussions on finding a solution loophole to allow 5 concerts to go ahead. This was a local council decision and subject to planning law. By all this messing around, including tabling emergency legislation; it creates the impression that the process was unfair/incorrect in concluding only to grant licenses for 3. As more and more details leak (especially when you look at it impartially), Aiken and Brooks don't come out of it good at all.

Once the decision was made, the matter should have been closed and left up to Brooks/Aiken to decide how they want to proceed. If they wanted to cancel all, so be it.

People stating only in Ireland could this mess be made are correct. It wouldn't have happened elsewhere as the parties involved would have known better than to try to bypass local planning regulations. Ireland will be just fine without the concerts and if anything our reputation will be enhanced. Just imagine what our EU counterparts would think if we changed the planning laws "just to appease" a wealthy american musician.
Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: snatter on July 15, 2014, 01:56:34 PM
A lot of misinformation being spread about the number of events that Croke Park is allowed to hold each year.

It's quite simple:

1. The GAA is automatically ALLOWED three non-football events per year.
2. There is NO BAN on having more than three events per year.
3. The promoter of the subsequent ( ie 4th and beyond) events have to apply for a Public Event Licence from DCC.

Here's the legalese ( lifted from http://votemcauliffe.com )

“An Bord Pleanála granted permission for the redevelopment of Croke Park Stadium on the 9th of March 1993 under Planning Permission Register Reference No. 0238/92. Condition 11 of the permission allows for three special events such as concerts per year to be held in the stadium under this permission subject to the approval of an event management plan which is required to be submitted by way of compliance submission to Dublin City Councils Planning Department.

Any additional concerts proposed to be held in Croke Park in excess of the three permitted per year under the permission must be applied for by way of a Public Event Licence application to Dublin City Council under the provisions of 230 of the Planning and Development Act 2000 as amended. The application which can be for one or more events must be made a minimum of ten weeks prior to the first event."

Any suggestion that Croke Park is only allowed a maximum of three non sports events per year is entirely bogus.
Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: muppet on July 15, 2014, 02:02:08 PM
A lot of misinformation being spread about the number of events that Croke Park is allowed to hold each year.

It's quite simple:

1. The GAA is automatically ALLOWED three non-football events per year.
2. There is NO BAN on having more than three events per year.
3. The promoter of the subsequent ( ie 4th and beyond) events have to apply for a Public Event Licence from DCC.

Here's the legalese ( lifted from http://votemcauliffe.com )

“An Bord Pleanála granted permission for the redevelopment of Croke Park Stadium on the 9th of March 1993 under Planning Permission Register Reference No. 0238/92. Condition 11 of the permission allows for three special events such as concerts per year to be held in the stadium under this permission subject to the approval of an event management plan which is required to be submitted by way of compliance submission to Dublin City Councils Planning Department.

Any additional concerts proposed to be held in Croke Park in excess of the three permitted per year under the permission must be applied for by way of a Public Event Licence application to Dublin City Council under the provisions of 230 of the Planning and Development Act 2000 as amended. The application which can be for one or more events must be made a minimum of ten weeks prior to the first event."

Any suggestion that Croke Park is only allowed a maximum of three non sports events per year is entirely bogus.

So a maximum of 3 then.

Further events require planning.

They got planning for 3 more, but not 5 more.

Is anyone saying any different to that?
Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: ONeill on July 15, 2014, 03:03:05 PM
What am I supposed to do with these?


Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: snatter on July 15, 2014, 03:18:10 PM
A lot of misinformation being spread about the number of events that Croke Park is allowed to hold each year.

It's quite simple:

1. The GAA is automatically ALLOWED three non-football events per year.
2. There is NO BAN on having more than three events per year.
3. The promoter of the subsequent ( ie 4th and beyond) events have to apply for a Public Event Licence from DCC.

Here's the legalese ( lifted from http://votemcauliffe.com )

“An Bord Pleanála granted permission for the redevelopment of Croke Park Stadium on the 9th of March 1993 under Planning Permission Register Reference No. 0238/92. Condition 11 of the permission allows for three special events such as concerts per year to be held in the stadium under this permission subject to the approval of an event management plan which is required to be submitted by way of compliance submission to Dublin City Councils Planning Department.

Any additional concerts proposed to be held in Croke Park in excess of the three permitted per year under the permission must be applied for by way of a Public Event Licence application to Dublin City Council under the provisions of 230 of the Planning and Development Act 2000 as amended. The application which can be for one or more events must be made a minimum of ten weeks prior to the first event."

Any suggestion that Croke Park is only allowed a maximum of three non sports events per year is entirely bogus.


FFS, this isn't difficult to understand. There is no maximum.

There is not one regulation anywhere, apart form some of your heads, that says Croke Park is only allowed a maximum of 3 events per year.

Croke Park is automatically allowed 3 events (subject to event management plan ) every year. This was granted as a condition under the original planning permission.

Subsequent legislation allows promoters to apply for as many further Croke Park events as they like, by applying to DCC for what are known as a Public Event Licences.

The reason DCC turned down the events licence wasn't that Croke Park had already had 3 events (under the Planning Permission). Rather, it was the 5 consecutuive days duration they objected to. Afaik, it's the first time anywhere that any council has ever turned down one of these event licence applications. Previously it was regarded as a rubber stamp exercise.

DCC did make it clear that 3 concerts in a row was fine, just not 5. Their judgement (for which no appeal mechanism exists) was purely subjective - nothing in any regulation or guidance states 3 consecutive days as a cut-off point.

Having said that, there's nothing in the current legislation or DCC's precedent to prevent promoters from applying for as many more CP concerts as they like, as long as they are only 3 consecutive days. As things stand right now, they could have three concerts a month, every month of the year, under DCC's new precedent.

Going forward, the best thing the Govt & GAA could do is to move the schools at the canal end, and make a proper plaza, through which all CP users would enter and exit. That's the blindingly obvious solution to all of this resident(or faux-resident) v's GAA conflict.

Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: snatter on July 15, 2014, 03:20:22 PM
Most ( if not all ) of the resident v's GAA conflict could be engineered out if the O'Connell schools campus was moved to a new site in the Clonliffe College grounds.

A large plaza could then be created in front of Croker and could be used as the single entry point for the stadium. Croker could then be used a lot more, which is a win win for the whole country and the GAA.

Site:  http://binged.it/1w0RNso (http://binged.it/1w0RNso)

Have a look at the link, specifically the playground areas to get an idea of how a large plaza could be created.

.
Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: Rossfan on July 15, 2014, 03:56:21 PM
A lot of misinformation being spread about the number of events that Croke Park is allowed to hold each year.

It's quite simple:

1. The GAA is automatically ALLOWED three non-football events per year.
The hurly crowd won't be happy  :D
Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: 93-DY-SAM on July 15, 2014, 03:58:23 PM
A lot of misinformation being spread about the number of events that Croke Park is allowed to hold each year.

It's quite simple:

1. The GAA is automatically ALLOWED three non-football events per year.
2. There is NO BAN on having more than three events per year.
3. The promoter of the subsequent ( ie 4th and beyond) events have to apply for a Public Event Licence from DCC.

Here's the legalese ( lifted from http://votemcauliffe.com )

“An Bord Pleanála granted permission for the redevelopment of Croke Park Stadium on the 9th of March 1993 under Planning Permission Register Reference No. 0238/92. Condition 11 of the permission allows for three special events such as concerts per year to be held in the stadium under this permission subject to the approval of an event management plan which is required to be submitted by way of compliance submission to Dublin City Councils Planning Department.

Any additional concerts proposed to be held in Croke Park in excess of the three permitted per year under the permission must be applied for by way of a Public Event Licence application to Dublin City Council under the provisions of 230 of the Planning and Development Act 2000 as amended. The application which can be for one or more events must be made a minimum of ten weeks prior to the first event."

Any suggestion that Croke Park is only allowed a maximum of three non sports events per year is entirely bogus.


FFS, this isn't difficult to understand. There is no maximum.

There is not one regulation anywhere, apart form some of your heads, that says Croke Park is only allowed a maximum of 3 events per year.

Croke Park is automatically allowed 3 events (subject to event management plan ) every year. This was granted as a condition under the original planning permission.

Subsequent legislation allows promoters to apply for as many further Croke Park events as they like, by applying to DCC for what are known as a Public Event Licences.

The reason DCC turned down the events licence wasn't that Croke Park had already had 3 events (under the Planning Permission). Rather, it was the 5 consecutuive days duration they objected to. Afaik, it's the first time anywhere that any council has ever turned down one of these event licence applications. Previously it was regarded as a rubber stamp exercise.

DCC did make it clear that 3 concerts in a row was fine, just not 5. Their judgement (for which no appeal mechanism exists) was purely subjective - nothing in any regulation or guidance states 3 consecutive days as a cut-off point.

Having said that, there's nothing in the current legislation or DCC's precedent to prevent promoters from applying for as many more CP concerts as they like, as long as they are only 3 consecutive days. As things stand right now, they could have three concerts a month, every month of the year, under DCC's new precedent.

Going forward, the best thing the Govt & GAA could do is to move the schools at the canal end, and make a proper plaza, through which all CP users would enter and exit. That's the blindingly obvious solution to all of this resident(or faux-resident) v's GAA conflict.

Am glad someone is bringing a bit of reason to this debate on here.  I'm no fan of Brooks but I can't help but get the feeling there is an element of music snobbery at play here and else where due to the fact he's a Country & Western musician and not a "cool" act.  It doesn't bother me either way that it has been cancelled but the attitude of some that just because he and his music isn't their cup of tea then fu*k everyone else is lousy. 


Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: macdanger2 on July 15, 2014, 04:29:35 PM
Now maybe the Politicians can get down to the job they were elected for -running the Country, sorting out the Health system - we spend about the same % as most Countries on our Health System yet we have one of the worst in Europe.
Abolish the HSE and let the Dept of Health oversee a patient/sick person centred system -we've only 4.6 million population FFS.

Going completely off track here but what indicators are you basing that on??

I had a look here http://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SH.XPD.TOTL.ZS (http://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SH.XPD.TOTL.ZS) to check how much we spend on healthcare and we're actually quite a bit below other countries on the 2012 figures:

Ireland       8% (of GDP spent on healthcare)
Norway      9%
UK      9.4%
Sweden      9.6%
NZ      10.3%
Germany      11.3%
France      11.7%

I was thinking about this over the weekend in relation our new minister in the Dept of Health – what would Varadkar need to do to be considered a success? Or is the Dept of Health such an important department whereby any failing directly impacts people’s lives so much that it’s impossible to be “successful”?? Have any of our previous minister’s been a success??

I 100% agree with you that policiticans should be focussing on the real problems in the country rather than a concert.
Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: macdanger2 on July 15, 2014, 05:01:22 PM
You're right, it is an opportunity wasted. And the government should make sure that the planning laws are updated in whatever way is needed to make sure this type of confusion doesn't happen again.

They shouldn't be getting involved in circumventing those laws however inconvenient they may be at this particular time

Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: laoislad on July 15, 2014, 05:01:37 PM
Quote

Am glad someone is bringing a bit of reason to this debate on here.  I'm no fan of Brooks but I can't help but get the feeling there is an element of music snobbery at play here and else where due to the fact he's a Country & Western musician and not a "cool" act.  It doesn't bother me either way that it has been cancelled but the attitude of some that just because he and his music isn't their cup of tea then f**k everyone else is lousy. 

+1
Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: manfromdelmonte on July 15, 2014, 05:09:52 PM
Most ( if not all ) of the resident v's GAA conflict could be engineered out if the O'Connell schools campus was moved to a new site in the Clonliffe College grounds.

A large plaza could then be created in front of Croker and could be used as the single entry point for the stadium. Croker could then be used a lot more, which is a win win for the whole country and the GAA.

Site:  http://binged.it/1w0RNso (http://binged.it/1w0RNso)

Have a look at the link, specifically the playground areas to get an idea of how a large plaza could be created.

.
how can you relocate a playground?
Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: muppet on July 15, 2014, 05:26:14 PM
A lot of misinformation being spread about the number of events that Croke Park is allowed to hold each year.

It's quite simple:

1. The GAA is automatically ALLOWED three non-football events per year.
2. There is NO BAN on having more than three events per year.
3. The promoter of the subsequent ( ie 4th and beyond) events have to apply for a Public Event Licence from DCC.

Here's the legalese ( lifted from http://votemcauliffe.com )

“An Bord Pleanála granted permission for the redevelopment of Croke Park Stadium on the 9th of March 1993 under Planning Permission Register Reference No. 0238/92. Condition 11 of the permission allows for three special events such as concerts per year to be held in the stadium under this permission subject to the approval of an event management plan which is required to be submitted by way of compliance submission to Dublin City Councils Planning Department.

Any additional concerts proposed to be held in Croke Park in excess of the three permitted per year under the permission must be applied for by way of a Public Event Licence application to Dublin City Council under the provisions of 230 of the Planning and Development Act 2000 as amended. The application which can be for one or more events must be made a minimum of ten weeks prior to the first event."

Any suggestion that Croke Park is only allowed a maximum of three non sports events per year is entirely bogus.


FFS, this isn't difficult to understand. There is no maximum.

There is not one regulation anywhere, apart form some of your heads, that says Croke Park is only allowed a maximum of 3 events per year.

Croke Park is automatically allowed 3 events (subject to event management plan ) every year. This was granted as a condition under the original planning permission.

Subsequent legislation allows promoters to apply for as many further Croke Park events as they like, by applying to DCC for what are known as a Public Event Licences.

The reason DCC turned down the events licence wasn't that Croke Park had already had 3 events (under the Planning Permission). Rather, it was the 5 consecutuive days duration they objected to. Afaik, it's the first time anywhere that any council has ever turned down one of these event licence applications. Previously it was regarded as a rubber stamp exercise.

DCC did make it clear that 3 concerts in a row was fine, just not 5. Their judgement (for which no appeal mechanism exists) was purely subjective - nothing in any regulation or guidance states 3 consecutive days as a cut-off point.

Having said that, there's nothing in the current legislation or DCC's precedent to prevent promoters from applying for as many more CP concerts as they like, as long as they are only 3 consecutive days. As things stand right now, they could have three concerts a month, every month of the year, under DCC's new precedent.

Going forward, the best thing the Govt & GAA could do is to move the schools at the canal end, and make a proper plaza, through which all CP users would enter and exit. That's the blindingly obvious solution to all of this resident(or faux-resident) v's GAA conflict.

We are saying the same thing but you take pedantic exception to the use of the word maximum.

It is hard to see 5 nights in a row as anything other than greedy, but everyone is entitled to their opinion.

It is also hard not to see Brooks as cutting off his 3 noses to spite his 5 faces, but again everyone is entitled to their opinion.
Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: highorlow on July 15, 2014, 06:56:34 PM
Who gets the interest on the cash sales for the tickets?

Brooks is a big winner in this now as he will do the Phoenix park next year for 3 nights and to 600k.

He will also have a high drama opener for his movie which will show his career re launch.

Garth Crooks!
Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: Shamrock Shore on July 15, 2014, 07:56:35 PM


Garth Crooks!


Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: Wildweasel74 on July 15, 2014, 08:30:28 PM
Seriously has Garth brooks give a reasonable explanation why he cannot do 3 nites, as he was originally going to do 2? We blaming everybody under the moon but at the end of the day, brooks has not given a explanation why he cant do 3, so i leave the blame with him.
Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: Tony Baloney on July 15, 2014, 08:34:52 PM
Seriously has Garth brooks give a reasonable explanation why he cannot do 3 nites, as he was originally going to do 2? We blaming everybody under the moon but at the end of the day, brooks has not given a explanation why he cant do 3, so i leave the blame with him.
His reasoning is that he has (wrongly) sold tickets for 5 nights and people on 2 nights would lose out. Choosing which 2 nights to lose millions would be like choosing his favourite child.
Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: moysider on July 15, 2014, 08:48:31 PM
A lot of misinformation being spread about the number of events that Croke Park is allowed to hold each year.

It's quite simple:

1. The GAA is automatically ALLOWED three non-football events per year.
2. There is NO BAN on having more than three events per year.
3. The promoter of the subsequent ( ie 4th and beyond) events have to apply for a Public Event Licence from DCC.

Here's the legalese ( lifted from http://votemcauliffe.com )

“An Bord Pleanála granted permission for the redevelopment of Croke Park Stadium on the 9th of March 1993 under Planning Permission Register Reference No. 0238/92. Condition 11 of the permission allows for three special events such as concerts per year to be held in the stadium under this permission subject to the approval of an event management plan which is required to be submitted by way of compliance submission to Dublin City Councils Planning Department.

Any additional concerts proposed to be held in Croke Park in excess of the three permitted per year under the permission must be applied for by way of a Public Event Licence application to Dublin City Council under the provisions of 230 of the Planning and Development Act 2000 as amended. The application which can be for one or more events must be made a minimum of ten weeks prior to the first event."

Any suggestion that Croke Park is only allowed a maximum of three non sports events per year is entirely bogus.


FFS, this isn't difficult to understand. There is no maximum.

There is not one regulation anywhere, apart form some of your heads, that says Croke Park is only allowed a maximum of 3 events per year.

Croke Park is automatically allowed 3 events (subject to event management plan ) every year. This was granted as a condition under the original planning permission.

Subsequent legislation allows promoters to apply for as many further Croke Park events as they like, by applying to DCC for what are known as a Public Event Licences.

The reason DCC turned down the events licence wasn't that Croke Park had already had 3 events (under the Planning Permission). Rather, it was the 5 consecutuive days duration they objected to. Afaik, it's the first time anywhere that any council has ever turned down one of these event licence applications. Previously it was regarded as a rubber stamp exercise.

DCC did make it clear that 3 concerts in a row was fine, just not 5. Their judgement (for which no appeal mechanism exists) was purely subjective - nothing in any regulation or guidance states 3 consecutive days as a cut-off point.

Having said that, there's nothing in the current legislation or DCC's precedent to prevent promoters from applying for as many more CP concerts as they like, as long as they are only 3 consecutive days. As things stand right now, they could have three concerts a month, every month of the year, under DCC's new precedent.

Going forward, the best thing the Govt & GAA could do is to move the schools at the canal end, and make a proper plaza, through which all CP users would enter and exit. That's the blindingly obvious solution to all of this resident(or faux-resident) v's GAA conflict.

So, DCC could have allowed the 5 concerts go ahead right? Or they could have refused a licence for any because the 3 automatic nights were already used up?
The promoters applied for a license for a 5 night event. Surely it was a yeah or nay. Why would the council decide to water down the event to 3 nights? It should have santioned it all or not at all.
Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: dec on July 15, 2014, 08:51:30 PM
Seriously has Garth brooks give a reasonable explanation why he cannot do 3 nites, as he was originally going to do 2? We blaming everybody under the moon but at the end of the day, brooks has not given a explanation why he cant do 3, so i leave the blame with him.
His reasoning is that he has (wrongly) sold tickets for 5 nights and people on 2 nights would lose out. Choosing which 2 nights to lose millions would be like choosing his favourite child.

Why would he have to make the decision?

Whoever has tickets for the two nights that didn't get approved are out of luck.
Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: orangeman on July 15, 2014, 09:10:23 PM
Garth Brooks is going on a world tour - he was going to play 2 nights, then a third was added and then a 4th and then 5th concert was added.

So he has been told that he can only play 3 nights but is refusing.

He will play various stadia - how many 5 nights in a row will he have ?? Probably none. So why insist on 5 in a row in Dublin ? Why would Dublin be any different ?.
Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: moysider on July 15, 2014, 09:20:23 PM
Seriously has Garth brooks give a reasonable explanation why he cannot do 3 nites, as he was originally going to do 2? We blaming everybody under the moon but at the end of the day, brooks has not given a explanation why he cant do 3, so i leave the blame with him.
His reasoning is that he has (wrongly) sold tickets for 5 nights and people on 2 nights would lose out. Choosing which 2 nights to lose millions would be like choosing his favourite child.

Why would he have to make the decision?

Whoever has tickets for the two nights that didn't get approved are out of luck.

That s hardly fair. He was right to pull the plug imo. DCC should have sanctioned the lot or none at all. Trying to water it down put Brooks in a lousy position.
 Turns out now they offered four nights!! why did they just not sanction th event in the first place and let people enjoy the summer and help the city they re supposed to run and serve by bringing in a few bob. Instead of pandering to a few cranks.
Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: moysider on July 15, 2014, 09:28:17 PM
Garth Brooks is going on a world tour - he was going to play 2 nights, then a third was added and then a 4th and then 5th concert was added.

So he has been told that he can only play 3 nights but is refusing.

He will play various stadia - how many 5 nights in a row will he have ?? Probably none. So why insist on 5 in a row in Dublin ? Why would Dublin be any different ?.

I d guess he d play 5 in a row in any venue if he was asked and he could sell the tickets. Remember Brooks agreed to do the 5 gigs because the demand was there. He was only satisfying demand.
People are blaming Brooks and saying he s greedy but that s daft. Brooks can tour for as long as he wants and make as much money as he wants, Croke Park or no Croke Park. I m no fan and wouldn t be attending anyway but I can understand his decision.Like 93-DY -SAM I also think there is a lot of snobbery and spitefulness about all this because he is not a 'cool' act.
Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: orangeman on July 15, 2014, 10:05:26 PM
Brooks was happy with 3 to start with. Then he sold 5 but told the fans etc to feck off when he could get only 3.
Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: moysider on July 15, 2014, 10:16:48 PM
Brooks was happy with 3 to start with. Then he sold 5 but told the fans etc to feck off when he could get only 3.

Can t understand that spin. Things changed. He did not anticipate the massive demand. But he had to cater for 5 shows and 400,000 punters. That s what was applied for and it should have been granted or refused. He ended up in an impossible position and I would have done the same as he did. Surely DCC realised the consequences when they decided to mess around with the application. Any act with any integrity would have done the same rather than disappoint 40% of the punters ( and spare me the bit about disappointing all of them). Effectively DCC deliberately scuttled the event or were extremely naive. This idea of offering a compromise 3 and then 4 gigs is incompetence of the highest order. They painted themselves into a corner I m afraid.
Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: imtommygunn on July 15, 2014, 10:24:20 PM
When was it actually applied for though?
Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: orangeman on July 15, 2014, 10:37:47 PM
Was Brook's original deal for 2,3, or 5 concerts ? If he originally signed up to 2 or 3 concerts, he should have honoured that deal. 5 was a completely different deal surely ?

The conspiracy theorist in me says that the government in light of this will conduct a review of the planning process and the residents might not have the same power or influence when the rules change as they inevitably will.

Then when the rules change Croke Park and the promoters can apply for a licence and the objections of the residents might not carry the same weight as it does now. If 40% of the objectors are bogus, that could be a bit of a problem.
Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: orangeman on July 15, 2014, 10:42:44 PM
Not that it matters a big pile but Dublin city manager owns a house in Clonliffe near to Croke Park. Just saying like.  :) :)
Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: moysider on July 16, 2014, 01:14:58 AM
When was it actually applied for though?

5 gig event obviously. That is what was put to the council I assume. They hardly would put in a multiple choice 2/3/4 application? The DCC fucked up this big time by acting cute. They thought they would appease the residents that moan and get a compromise event on. Fair play to the yank. At least he saw through the usual Irish solution to an Irish problem. Bullshit. The problem was presented as a bully trying to get a way past legistlation. It turns out there was no legistlation to prevent the concerts! unbelievable. And it s as if he didn t know that before he made his decision. You couldn t make it up.
Dublin CC must be some rolling in cash.

Lets see.

Golden Goose: Listen Dublin/Ireland I can lay ye 5 golden eggs - all solid boss.

DCC: No. We can t cater with that amount of gold at all. 3 golden eggs is all we can deal with now. The country is awash with gold and we can do without the bother of much more.

Golden Goose: Well lads, its the five eggs or none. Else I ll have to lay my eggs elsewhere.

DCC: Keep yer gilden f**king eggs. We don t need them. We re a rich city already, we are. Besides, we don t like the sound of you re honks.
Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: David McKeown on July 16, 2014, 01:46:46 AM
Am I right in saying that the Dublin City Manager who refused the gigs is neither elected nor a political appointment? 

If so what kind of 'democratic' society do we live in when one individual  has the power to make decisions such as the one he did, with no right of appeal?  Moreover how is said individual able to tell the Oirachtas that should he be Judicially reviewed he will use tax payers money to uphold his decision which seems contrary to the view of the elected city council?
Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: Muck Savage on July 16, 2014, 06:49:17 AM
Seriously has Garth brooks give a reasonable explanation why he cannot do 3 nites, as he was originally going to do 2? We blaming everybody under the moon but at the end of the day, brooks has not given a explanation why he cant do 3, so i leave the blame with him.
His reasoning is that he has (wrongly) sold tickets for 5 nights and people on 2 nights would lose out. Choosing which 2 nights to lose millions would be like choosing his favourite child.

So instead of looking after 3 kids and giving up 2 he decides to dump all 5.

Is there not some legal obgilation for him to play 3. He signed up to do them originally provided planning was given, then a 4th and 5th were added based on demand - again assuming planning was given. 1-3 got planning 4-5 didn't. So what is the legal status of him packing in the first 3?

This is a story of a lot of greedy people, everyone involved.
Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: macdanger2 on July 16, 2014, 07:58:50 AM
When was it actually applied for though?

5 gig event obviously. That is what was put to the council I assume. They hardly would put in a multiple choice 2/3/4 application? The DCC fucked up this big time by acting cute. They thought they would appease the residents that moan and get a compromise event on. Fair play to the yank. At least he saw through the usual Irish solution to an Irish problem. Bullshit. The problem was presented as a bully trying to get a way past legistlation. It turns out there was no legistlation to prevent the concerts! unbelievable. And it s as if he didn t know that before he made his decision. You couldn t make it up.
Dublin CC must be some rolling in cash.

Lets see.

Golden Goose: Listen Dublin/Ireland I can lay ye 5 golden eggs - all solid boss.

DCC: No. We can t cater with that amount of gold at all. 3 golden eggs is all we can deal with now. The country is awash with gold and we can do without the bother of much more.

Golden Goose: Well lads, its the five eggs or none. Else I ll have to lay my eggs elsewhere.

DCC: Keep yer gilden f**king eggs. We don t need them. We re a rich city already, we are. Besides, we don t like the sound of you re honks.

There was an application for 5 concerts, there were several objections (albeit some of them are now allegedly fraudulent) by the residents on the grounds that concerts on five consecutive nights would be too much of an imposition on their lives. The council took this into account and three concerts were granted.

If you compare it to an application for building a house - you apply to build a mansion on the top of a hill, the council review your application and any objections which come in and are likely to grant you permission for a bungalow off the crest of the hill - is this "f*cking up by acting cute"? Or following the planning guidelines and taking into account the views of stakeholders in the process??

References to how much money this was likely to generate are entirely irrelevant - the planning laws don't (and shouldn't) take into account how much money is likely to be generated from something. Or should we bend our laws any time someone comes knocking with a "golden egg"??
Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: imtommygunn on July 16, 2014, 08:50:27 AM
Exactly macdanger. Goldenegg irrelevant or you're illustrating you just flaunt laws for money.

Dcc getting a lot of flak here. Aiken promotions are the bad guys from what i can see.
Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: Hereiam on July 16, 2014, 11:42:59 AM
Its simple
2 nights were scheduled -akins/gaa would have told Brooks dont worry about the licences we will sort it
tickets start to sell,  Brooks management see how well they sell, phone call to Akins to put on another night
They see that sales are still going well so this is where greed takes over by all involved. I have no doubt that it come from Brooks management to push for the as the extra capital would help with world tour. Aikens and the Gaa seen the pound signs and thought the council would have no choice but to allow the 5
They were wrong and the council have sent out a clear message that it doesnt matter how big u think you are they will not be pushed over.
Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: orangeman on July 16, 2014, 11:44:58 AM
http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/politics/garth-brooks-fiasco-gaa-and-croke-park-got-assurances-five-gigs-were-okay-30436617.html


GAA were told there'd be no problem with 5 - what changed ?.
Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: Rossfan on July 16, 2014, 11:46:55 AM
Am I right in saying that the Dublin City Manager who refused the gigs is neither elected nor a political appointment? 

If so what kind of 'democratic' society do we live in when one individual  has the power to make decisions such as the one he did, with no right of appeal?  Moreover how is said individual able to tell the Oirachtas that should he be Judicially reviewed he will use tax payers money to uphold his decision which seems contrary to the view of the elected city council?

You obviously never heard of the Mahon Tribunal.
Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: LeoMc on July 16, 2014, 12:07:20 PM
Am I right in saying that the Dublin City Manager who refused the gigs is neither elected nor a political appointment? 

If so what kind of 'democratic' society do we live in when one individual  has the power to make decisions such as the one he did, with no right of appeal?  Moreover how is said individual able to tell the Oirachtas that should he be Judicially reviewed he will use tax payers money to uphold his decision which seems contrary to the view of the elected city council?
Should all planning applications go through the Dail?
Maybe we could just abolish all planning restrictions and biggest wallet wins.
Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: haranguerer on July 16, 2014, 12:47:24 PM
Its simple
2 nights were scheduled -akins/gaa would have told Brooks dont worry about the licences we will sort it
tickets start to sell,  Brooks management see how well they sell, phone call to Akins to put on another night
They see that sales are still going well so this is where greed takes over by all involved. I have no doubt that it come from Brooks management to push for the as the extra capital would help with world tour. Aikens and the Gaa seen the pound signs and thought the council would have no choice but to allow the 5
They were wrong and the council have sent out a clear message that it doesnt matter how big u think you are they will not be pushed over.

Can I just ask, why did Brooks ever stop playing his local bars? Why did Aiken move on from shows in parish halls? Why do I, and presumably you, work longer hours to earn more money than we need to survive?

I hate people talking absolute shit about 'greed'. Wake up, this is the world we live in, and if thats how you define greed, then we're all greedy.
Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: THE MIGHTY QUINN on July 16, 2014, 01:05:43 PM
It all boils down to the begrudging attitude of some people. Rather than look at the rich man and think' I wanna be that man', better to look at him and think, ' I wanna get that b**tard'
Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: joemamas on July 16, 2014, 01:20:47 PM
It all boils down to the begrudging attitude of some people. Rather than look at the rich man and think' I wanna be that man', better to look at him and think, ' I wanna get that b**tard'

+1

I posted this a few weeks ago.

"From the very outside looking in, five nights appeared to be OTT, especially in light of the one direction concerts a few months ago.
I think part of whole mindset issue is the socialist type of mentality that exists in Ireland and other places in Europe.
I often get the impression that a lot, not all Irish people would prefer to see people in business fail rather than succeed."
Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: balladmaker on July 16, 2014, 01:28:37 PM
Pauric Duffy's contribution to the Dail committee today is pretty damning of DCC.

The fact that DCC made a decision based on what included bogus complaints from local residents, as well as the fact that the man making the decision also had a personal interest in the area i.e. his son lives in the Croke Park area (according to RTE news last night), should be grounds enough for the decision to be scrapped.
Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: muppet on July 16, 2014, 01:30:51 PM
It all boils down to the begrudging attitude of some people. Rather than look at the rich man and think' I wanna be that man', better to look at him and think, ' I wanna get that b**tard'

+1

I posted this a few weeks ago.

"From the very outside looking in, five nights appeared to be OTT, especially in light of the one direction concerts a few months ago.
I think part of whole mindset issue is the socialist type of mentality that exists in Ireland and other places in Europe.
I often get the impression that a lot, not all Irish people would prefer to see people in business fail rather than succeed."

This may be true. And I would add that in The States someone's business going bankrupt is seen as education, in Ireland it is seen as a failure label for life.

However there have to be limits. There is a process here, maybe it is flawed, but if Brooks continued adding concerts ad infinitum would it still be ok?

U2 only played 3 concerts in Croker maximum and never 3 in 3 nights (they played 3 in 4).
Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: imtommygunn on July 16, 2014, 01:36:38 PM
It all boils down to the begrudging attitude of some people. Rather than look at the rich man and think' I wanna be that man', better to look at him and think, ' I wanna get that b**tard'

To be honest that is bullshit.

There's protocol to go through. Just because you have more money than other people or will generate more money doesn't make exception. If you make exception then you make one rule for one and not one rule for all. That's a bad precedent to set.

People have messed up here due to greed. That's it plain and simple.

There are begrudgers here who gave some guy money to go to court. Who these people are I've no idea. Perhaps they caused the whole thing but if it'd have been done right it'd never have been a problem.
Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on July 16, 2014, 01:40:20 PM
It all boils down to the begrudging attitude of some people. Rather than look at the rich man and think' I wanna be that man', better to look at him and think, ' I wanna get that b**tard'

Garth Brooks we are talking about here!?
Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: moysider on July 16, 2014, 02:01:52 PM
When was it actually applied for though?

5 gig event obviously. That is what was put to the council I assume. They hardly would put in a multiple choice 2/3/4 application? The DCC fucked up this big time by acting cute. They thought they would appease the residents that moan and get a compromise event on. Fair play to the yank. At least he saw through the usual Irish solution to an Irish problem. Bullshit. The problem was presented as a bully trying to get a way past legistlation. It turns out there was no legistlation to prevent the concerts! unbelievable. And it s as if he didn t know that before he made his decision. You couldn t make it up.
Dublin CC must be some rolling in cash.

Lets see.

Golden Goose: Listen Dublin/Ireland I can lay ye 5 golden eggs - all solid boss.

DCC: No. We can t cater with that amount of gold at all. 3 golden eggs is all we can deal with now. The country is awash with gold and we can do without the bother of much more.

Golden Goose: Well lads, its the five eggs or none. Else I ll have to lay my eggs elsewhere.

DCC: Keep yer gilden f**king eggs. We don t need them. We re a rich city already, we are. Besides, we don t like the sound of you re honks.

There was an application for 5 concerts, there were several objections (albeit some of them are now allegedly fraudulent) by the residents on the grounds that concerts on five consecutive nights would be too much of an imposition on their lives. The council took this into account and three concerts were granted.

If you compare it to an application for building a house - you apply to build a mansion on the top of a hill, the council review your application and any objections which come in and are likely to grant you permission for a bungalow off the crest of the hill - is this "f*cking up by acting cute"? Or following the planning guidelines and taking into account the views of stakeholders in the process??

References to how much money this was likely to generate are entirely irrelevant - the planning laws don't (and shouldn't) take into account how much money is likely to be generated from something. Or should we bend our laws any time someone comes knocking with a "golden egg"??

In the case of the house the applicant can bugger off and not bother building any house at all on the hill if he s not allowed build what he wants. He s not compelled to build the bungalow.

Anyway this was a 5 night event, not a monsrosity that would be blight on the landscape for ever. The point is that the DCC could have licensed the gig. If they felt that it was setting a precedent then they could have introduced legislation for the future capping events at 3 nights or whatever. At least then everybody would know where they stood and there would be no messing about. Granting a licence for the 5 nights would not have been bending any laws either as it turns out.

The money generated is a huge consideration because - well the country is broke. What was the point of Enda's gathering events to try and generate a few bob when an earner like this is casually brushed aside.

I can t see the greedy side of this at all. Brookes hardly needs the money. The chipper in Drumcondra I was in last week certainly could do with all the business it can get. So too all the other people that would have been employed in the build up to the event and around the shows. Sure Aiken would have done well. But what business doesn t try to make money?
Anyway isn t this the type of thing the government was trying to encourage.
 The fact that a lot of people were going to enjoy themselves, at a time when there is f**k all to enjoy about the place, is a consideration as well.
 Blame lies solely with DCC on this one.
Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: balladmaker on July 16, 2014, 02:09:19 PM
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Blame lies solely with DCC on this one.

+1

(1) One man makes a decision in a democratic society and there is no right for anyone to appeal that decision?  Something badly wrong about that.

(2) GAA/Aiken never informed that 5 would not fly until 3 weeks before the gigs.

(3) Man who made the decision has a vested interest in the specific area where the shows are to be staged.

(4) Decision was based on false information i.e. forged objections.

(5) They offered 3 licences first, then put a 4th on the table, then made it 3 again, then offered 5 in 3 days, then offered 3 now and 3 in October ... all seems very unprofessional from DCC.  Brooks and his management team must have been thinking WTF.
Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: THE MIGHTY QUINN on July 16, 2014, 02:45:51 PM
It all boils down to the begrudging attitude of some people. Rather than look at the rich man and think' I wanna be that man', better to look at him and think, ' I wanna get that b**tard'
haha

FFS listen to yourself.
Priceless coming from a man with a chip on both shoulders
Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: ONeill on July 16, 2014, 03:00:52 PM
http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/politics/garth-brooks-gigs-could-still-go-ahead-if-somebody-pulls-a-switch-today-30436617.html
Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: balladmaker on July 16, 2014, 03:38:07 PM
So a possible Judicial Review in the High Court today, and if Dublin City Council do not contest it, the shows will go ahead ... but Owen Keegan has said that they will contest it, someone needs to have a serious word with Mr. Keegan to take himself away on holiday for a few weeks starting now.
Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: ziggysego on July 16, 2014, 03:39:45 PM
http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/politics/garth-brooks-gigs-could-still-go-ahead-if-somebody-pulls-a-switch-today-30436617.html

No no no. Just let it die ffs!
Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: THE MIGHTY QUINN on July 16, 2014, 03:40:42 PM
On a much more serious note, where exactly does the big guy live in the States?  I'm touring over here at the moment and I wouldn't want to bump into him. The sound of an Irish accent could put him over the edge
Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: balladmaker on July 16, 2014, 03:53:28 PM
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Even if they do manage to go on the crowd going will be so stressed at this stage they'll hardly be able to enjoy it!

Counselling will be required on entrance to the stadium ...

http://www.rte.ie/ten/news/2014/0716/631191-another-bid-to-save-brooks-concerts/
Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: bcarrier on July 16, 2014, 04:13:18 PM
Duffy and McKenna's representations are very damning of Keegan. 

There also appears to have been widespread misreporting of the licensing situation.

Croke Park has an automatic entitlement to three but needs to apply for a special licence for more. This is not "they are only allowed to hold three concerts a year".
Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: Fionntamhnach on July 16, 2014, 04:24:45 PM
Am I right in saying that the Dublin City Manager who refused the gigs is neither elected nor a political appointment? 

If so what kind of 'democratic' society do we live in when one individual  has the power to make decisions such as the one he did, with no right of appeal?  Moreover how is said individual able to tell the Oirachtas that should he be Judicially reviewed he will use tax payers money to uphold his decision which seems contrary to the view of the elected city council?
I'd say the very last people who should have the final say in passing or refusing planning applications should be elected politicians, especially those in local government - the opportunities for clientelism & looking to make use of short-term political gain at the expense of proper long-term planning in terms of business & community development plans and the associated consequences should be obvious. It would be like criticising a judge whom some people didn't like what they were giving for sentences and calling form him/her to be replaced by the local councillors.

The issue of how a decision can/may be appealed is another matter, but again that is down to decisions made by law makers i.e. elected politicians.
Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: balladmaker on July 16, 2014, 04:26:48 PM
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Croke Park has an automatic entitlement to three but needs to apply for a special licence for more. This is not "they are only allowed to hold three concerts a year".

And that's an important point, no limit to the number of concerts they can have in Croke Park, so long as they receive additional licences beyond the first 3.

Owen Keegan is not looking good in all of this at present, something not adding up at present, and Peter McKenna said he'll swear that he was told by DCC that they were supportive of 5 shows.
Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: Under Lights on July 16, 2014, 04:26:56 PM
Can this thread be locked now that it is confirmed as cancelled?
Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: thebigfella on July 16, 2014, 04:52:27 PM
This could end up in the European court of human rights yet.
Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: macdanger2 on July 16, 2014, 04:57:58 PM
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Croke Park has an automatic entitlement to three but needs to apply for a special licence for more. This is not "they are only allowed to hold three concerts a year".

And that's an important point, no limit to the number of concerts they can have in Croke Park, so long as they receive additional licences beyond the first 3.

Owen Keegan is not looking good in all of this at present, something not adding up at present, and Peter McKenna said he'll swear that he was told by DCC that they were supportive of 5 shows.

It's worth pointing out that Keegan's statements to the Dail committee were in direct contradiction of McKenna's statements. Clearly one of them is lying but there's no evidence as to which one. You could just as easily say that McKenna is not looking good in all of this or that Keegan's statements are damning of McKenna.

I agree that there should be an appeals process but it 100% should not lie in the hands of an elected representative - anyone with any knowledge of our recent history should be able to see that. Responsibility for changing that process lies with the govt though and until it's changed, it shouldn't be circumvented because of the money involved.
Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: muppet on July 16, 2014, 05:02:58 PM
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Croke Park has an automatic entitlement to three but needs to apply for a special licence for more. This is not "they are only allowed to hold three concerts a year".

And that's an important point, no limit to the number of concerts they can have in Croke Park, so long as they receive additional licences beyond the first 3.

Owen Keegan is not looking good in all of this at present, something not adding up at present, and Peter McKenna said he'll swear that he was told by DCC that they were supportive of 5 shows.

It's worth pointing out that Keegan's statements to the Dail committee were in direct contradiction of McKenna's statements. Clearly one of them is lying but there's no evidence as to which one. You could just as easily say that McKenna is not looking good in all of this or that Keegan's statements are damning of McKenna.

I agree that there should be an appeals process but it 100% should not lie in the hands of an elected representative - anyone with any knowledge of our recent history should be able to see that. Responsibility for changing that process lies with the govt though and until it's changed, it shouldn't be circumvented because of the money involved.

Agreed.

Appeals could be to the Commercial or High Courts at €10,000 a pop.
Further appeal to the Supreme Court at €50,000 a go.

Then you would know it meant something to those involved.
Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: balladmaker on July 16, 2014, 05:05:25 PM
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It's worth pointing out that Keegan's statements to the Dail committee were in direct contradiction of McKenna's statements. Clearly one of them is lying but there's no evidence as to which one. You could just as easily say that McKenna is not looking good in all of this or that Keegan's statements are damning of McKenna.

I'm not saying that anyone has lied, just that both ends of the arugument appear to have a different take on it, which they both may fully believe to be 100% correct.  McKenna said he'll swear via an affidavit, he obviously believes his version of events.
Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: armaghniac on July 16, 2014, 05:35:17 PM
While many here wonder about McKenna's motives, few believe he is stupid. If he believe that 3 or 4 was the limit he could away with then he would have gone for that, or at least added a gap in between. It seems quite likely that he had a nod and a wink from some source.
Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: Fionntamhnach on July 16, 2014, 05:38:37 PM
Can I just ask, why did Brooks ever stop playing his local bars? Why did Aiken move on from shows in parish halls? Why do I, and presumably you, work longer hours to earn more money than we need to survive?

I hate people talking absolute shit about 'greed'. Wake up, this is the world we live in, and if thats how you define greed, then we're all greedy.
The first bit is a strawman - no one here that I see has suggested that it is wrong for Brooks to have moved from playing in his local bar to playing in residence at Vegas, nor for the case with Aiken promotions. Nor has anyone questioned the ethics of working for anything more than a subsistence living.

What is being questioned is how the GAA, Aiken promotions and Brooks himself is involved in making money through these concerts as to how they pass the externalities they generate through this on to others. Although not exactly a business transaction, the 11th night bonfires in many parts of Belfast in response to celebrating their culture (their words, not mine) pass on externalities of environmental damage (repair costs passed on to ratepayers & taxpayers along with possible disruption to other services & businesses) and issues with health to those living nearby & beyond (carcinogens and poisons released into the air hough the burning of used tyres and chemically treated wood) as well as possible anti-social behaviour. In more saner business terms, it is why the likes of planning regulations, zoning and environmental laws are put into place. In the case of these planned concerts, the externalities being passed on here affect the quality of life living in the vicinity of Croke Park - and this is where the talk of "greed" comes in. "Greed" here is what some people regard as an excessive passing on of externalities without engaging in the right communication channels.

Most outdoor events which can have a significant impact on the local area (e.g. noise pollution, litter, traffic, surface damage) usually sees organisers, local authorities and local residents come to agreements and sometimes compromises over what is involved so that all involved are happy. If this breaks down though then it's up to whoever allows the event to go ahead to make the final call. The major problem with Croke Park is that it sits in a major residential area with limited public transport links, no large on-site car parking facilities and (AFAIK) no dedicated park & ride schemes. In terms of urban planning, that doesn't look great to me.

I don't believe that this kind of "greed" is part of the world we live in, rather it is part of the cute hoor seeking short-term get-rich-quick ideas that is prevalent in much of Irish society and of a similar mindset in other parts of the world (e.g. air quality in Bejing and historically in Los Angeles). But in most parts of Europe plans and developments are often made which see issues like what has been seen in this case happen not terribly often. For example Switzerland can be described as a very business friendly country but they don't let their environment get arse raped in attracting foreign investment, not to mention scoring highly in quality-of-life polls. A similar stance goes for Nordic countries who rank among the top countries in the world for ease of business even allowing for high income tax rates. As for me? Well I just don't consider myself the Gordon Gecko type as I don't think I'd ever be content with myself otherwise. I just see that unrestricted greed leads to an eventual 'tragedy of the commons'.
Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: Myles Na G. on July 16, 2014, 05:43:26 PM
This could end up in the European court of human rights yet.
On the basis that DCC is discriminating against Garth Brooks fans, who are being denied the right to cultural expression, namely the right to march down a road beating a big drum listen to an overweight American singing crap songs.
Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: orangeman on July 16, 2014, 05:49:44 PM
Peter Aitken says he has lost €1m in the whole hanlen.
Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: thebigfella on July 16, 2014, 05:51:32 PM
This could end up in the European court of human rights yet.
On the basis that DCC is discriminating against Garth Brooks fans, who are being denied the right to cultural expression, namely the right to march down a road beating a big drum listen to an overweight American singing crap songs.

Or if the DCC decision is overturned.
Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: armaghniac on July 16, 2014, 06:05:09 PM
Most outdoor events which can have a significant impact on the local area (e.g. noise pollution, litter, traffic, surface damage) usually sees organisers, local authorities and local residents come to agreements and sometimes compromises over what is involved so that all involved are happy. If this breaks down though then it's up to whoever allows the event to go ahead to make the final call. The major problem with Croke Park is that it sits in a major residential area with limited public transport links, no large on-site car parking facilities and (AFAIK) no dedicated park & ride schemes. In terms of urban planning, that doesn't look great to me.

I don't believe that this kind of "greed" is part of the world we live in, rather it is part of the cute hoor seeking short-term get-rich-quick ideas that is prevalent in much of Irish society and of a similar mindset in other parts of the world (e.g. air quality in Bejing and historically in Los Angeles). But in most parts of Europe plans and developments are often made which see issues like what has been seen in this case happen not terribly often. For example Switzerland can be described as a very business friendly country but they don't let their environment get arse raped in attracting foreign investment, not to mention scoring highly in quality-of-life polls. A similar stance goes for Nordic countries who rank among the top countries in the world for ease of business even allowing for high income tax rates. As for me? Well I just don't consider myself the Gordon Gecko type as I don't think I'd ever be content with myself otherwise. I just see that unrestricted greed leads to an eventual 'tragedy of the commons'.

A few fair enough points here. But DCC and other public authorities do nothing to make these events have less impact. Croke Park has a railway at either end, but no train stops near there. If Brooks did have a concert there would be no special trains home afterwards to Belfast to Kilkenny, such as would exist in any properly run European city. There is nothing much done about park and ride and publicly owned facilities like schools are locked up that could provide some facilities at this and other events.
Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: RadioGAAGAA on July 16, 2014, 06:11:00 PM
Everyone is at fault in one way or another.

- Brooks for being a fat bstart who sings sh!te songs.... and is greedy.
- GAA for trampling all over the residents - seriously, did they never think that effectively denying people unobstructed access to their houses 5 nights in a row was not going to be an issue? Climb down from your ivory towers and show a little respect please Duffy and McKenna.
- DCC for being inept in communicating what their intentions were / changing their intentions late on.
- TDs for getting involved in any capacity. They are largely corrupt, inept and serve no useful purpose.
- Aiken for being another greedy barsteward.
- Brooks fans for having no taste.



I mainly blame Duffy and McKenna. I expect Brooks and Aiken to be a greedy chunts, I expect the council and TDs to be inept. But, I didn't expect the GAA to walk all over their neighbours in search of a few extra €€€ that is not needed.





Kerry couldn't in '82, Kilkenny failed in 2010 and now Brooks in 2014 #5inarow.
Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: David McKeown on July 16, 2014, 06:15:59 PM
My issue with the decision maker being unelected or appointed is that ultimately he seems unaccountable particularly given that no appeal is permissible against the merits of the decision.  Somehow that needs to change regardless of the decision made.

I also don't get the accusation against brooks of being greedy. Surely if he was being greedy he'd have done the three shows or the matinees and said to hell with the fans. At the time of booking anyone would have jumped at a chance to make more money from more concerts if they were led to believe there'd be no issue.
Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: Fionntamhnach on July 16, 2014, 06:28:21 PM
A few fair enough points here. But DCC and other public authorities do nothing to make these events have less impact. Croke Park has a railway at either end, but no train stops near there. If Brooks did have a concert there would be no special trains home afterwards to Belfast to Kilkenny, such as would exist in any properly run European city. There is nothing much done about park and ride and publicly owned facilities like schools are locked up that could provide some facilities at this and other events.
The issues of governmental authorities not having a co-operative approach to these matters is definitely worth pointing out, especially if it can have positive impacts of event goers spending disposable income. Proper infrastructure planning on both a public and private basis is the key here. Unfortunately the history of such dealings in Ireland is more littered with corruption among a few vested interests rather than a mutual benefit for all involved.
Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: pullhard on July 16, 2014, 06:45:12 PM
Kerry couldn't in '82, Kilkenny failed in 2010 and now Brooks in 2014 #5inarow.


 ;D great line to quote!
Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: Fionntamhnach on July 16, 2014, 07:00:08 PM
My issue with the decision maker being unelected or appointed is that ultimately he seems unaccountable particularly given that no appeal is permissible against the merits of the decision.  Somehow that needs to change regardless of the decision made.
Not that much different to what is currently the case in the north (though there is an appeals system, the PAC), where the only politician with any real power in such matters is the Stormont Minister for Environment (though apparently the OFMDFM can also make overriding decisions). Local councillors only have a consultation role, like referring potentially refused applications back for further review. When the new councils come into force in April, these new councils will be responsible for drawing up local development plans so they will have more of a say in the development of their areas - but the day to day decision making on applications will still be made by civil servants using criteria set by the local council. The councillors themselves will still not be able to unilaterally overturn a decision. It's the best compromise IMO as it gives elected representatives accountability on planning without giving them too much to discriminate and get backhanders from. As for Keegan's accountability, surely if the councillors on the DCC felt that he was not fit for his job, they could dismiss him, no?

I also don't get the accusation against brooks of being greedy. Surely if he was being greedy he'd have done the three shows or the matinees and said to hell with the fans. At the time of booking anyone would have jumped at a chance to make more money from more concerts if they were led to believe there'd be no issue.
I suppose it reminds of something like this...

http://youtu.be/90HhZ-pyC2Y

As for the issue of putting on more concerts after the initial two then three sold out, you would have to had your head buried in the sand if some major issues were not foreseen. Obviously assumptions as to the licensing of the gigs before any firm decision was made, it seems to me that the old Celtic Tiger nod & wink just didn't work this time. Some would say about time this was tackled, just a shame about the event which has been affected because of it. It's a mess in the short term, but I reckon things will be better beyond it as such things will now need to be better co-ordinated from both ends.

Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: David McKeown on July 16, 2014, 07:09:20 PM
My issue with the decision maker being unelected or appointed is that ultimately he seems unaccountable particularly given that no appeal is permissible against the merits of the decision.  Somehow that needs to change regardless of the decision made.
Not that much different to what is currently the case in the north (though there is an appeals system, the PAC), where the only politician with any real power in such matters is the Stormont Minister for Environment (though apparently the OFMDFM can also make overriding decisions). Local councillors only have a consultation role, like referring potentially refused applications back for further review. When the new councils come into force in April, these new councils will be responsible for drawing up local development plans so they will have more of a say in the development of their areas - but the day to day decision making on applications will still be made by civil servants using criteria set by the local council. The councillors themselves will still not be able to unilaterally overturn a decision. It's the best compromise IMO as it gives elected representatives accountability on planning without giving them too much to discriminate and get backhanders from. As for Keegan's accountability, surely if the councillors on the DCC felt that he was not fit for his job, they could dismiss him, no?

I also don't get the accusation against brooks of being greedy. Surely if he was being greedy he'd have done the three shows or the matinees and said to hell with the fans. At the time of booking anyone would have jumped at a chance to make more money from more concerts if they were led to believe there'd be no issue.
I suppose it reminds of something like this...

http://youtu.be/90HhZ-pyC2Y

As for the issue of putting on more concerts after the initial two then three sold out, you would have to had your head buried in the sand if some major issues were not foreseen. Obviously assumptions as to the licensing of the gigs before any firm decision was made, it seems to me that the old Celtic Tiger nod & wink just didn't work this time. Some would say about time this was tackled, just a shame about the event which has been affected because of it. It's a mess in the short term, but I reckon things will be better beyond it as such things will now need to be better co-ordinated from both ends.



I wouldn't have thought he could be dismissed for unpopular decision making not with current employment regulations .  The issue of appeals I raised is separate to the issue of the decision makers accountability to a degree. I'm saying when you don't have any avenue of appeal on the merits of a decision then that decision maker has to be in someway accountable to someone. If you have any appeals process that becomes less of an issue. I'm not saying such an appeal need lie to elected representatives particularly if they are unqualified.

On a related note I'm struggling to see why an uncontested JR is needed. Surely if there is sufficient merit to a JR a full emergency hearing could take place. If there is not I would be surprised if the court would accede to an unmeritorious application for political expediency.
Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: bcarrier on July 16, 2014, 08:46:59 PM

I am guessing that Aiken hasn't taken out an injunction because the planning process doesn't allow it. Maybe someone with a legal background can answer that one.

About 20 pages ago I expressed a view that this isn't a planning issue. There seems to be some hybrid structure where the permanent 3 day rights are granted under planning " licence " but the special licences are the DCC managers gift ( or not in this case ). The special licence procedure doesn't seem fit for purpose.
Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: muppet on July 16, 2014, 08:50:40 PM

I am guessing that Aiken hasn't taken out an injunction because the planning process doesn't allow it. Maybe someone with a legal background can answer that one.

About 20 pages ago I expressed a view that this isn't a planning issue. There seems to be some hybrid structure where the permanent 3 day rights are granted under planning " licence " but the special licences are the DCC managers gift ( or not in this case ). The special licence procedure doesn't seem fit for purpose.

So presumably one can't take out an injunction to try to force a licence to be issued? That makes some sense, I think.
Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: bcarrier on July 16, 2014, 08:55:32 PM
I think Croke park would need to make a planning application to increase number of days from 3 to whatever. This would then be subject to appeals processes within planning system. The special licenses seem to be handed out like a pub applying for an exemption !


Meanwhile http://www.irishtimes.com/business/sectors/commercial-property/property-investors-turn-to-spain-as-nama-looks-to-wind-up-1.1867513
Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: Fionntamhnach on July 16, 2014, 09:26:48 PM
I wouldn't have thought he could be dismissed for unpopular decision making not with current employment regulations .  The issue of appeals I raised is separate to the issue of the decision makers accountability to a degree. I'm saying when you don't have any avenue of appeal on the merits of a decision then that decision maker has to be in someway accountable to someone. If you have any appeals process that becomes less of an issue. I'm not saying such an appeal need lie to elected representatives particularly if they are unqualified.
It does seem strange on the face of it that there is no route of direct appeal to An Bord Pleanála (though that body doesn't exactly inspire much confidence with me) - however I'd suggest that if such route was possible, the minimum 10 week time limit in place would have to be almost certainly increased.

There is also a problem in arguing an appeal on the simple basis of the merit of an application - if the initial decision was based on properly laid down guidelines of planning policy, then an appeal is made to that decision simply based on merits and not on wherever the decision originally reached was either outside of guidelines or did not consider guidelines which could have favoured the applicant, and the appeal is upheld then it could start a slippery slope - if it starts to become a semi-regular occurrence then it means one of two things, either the officer in charge of deciding planning application is incompetent or the appeals board is engaging in subversion and undermining the officer. Neither of which is desirable. There's no easy answers.
Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: LeoMc on July 16, 2014, 11:28:44 PM
My issue with the decision maker being unelected or appointed is that ultimately he seems unaccountable particularly given that no appeal is permissible against the merits of the decision.  Somehow that needs to change regardless of the decision made.
Not that much different to what is currently the case in the north (though there is an appeals system, the PAC), where the only politician with any real power in such matters is the Stormont Minister for Environment (though apparently the OFMDFM can also make overriding decisions). Local councillors only have a consultation role, like referring potentially refused applications back for further review. When the new councils come into force in April, these new councils will be responsible for drawing up local development plans so they will have more of a say in the development of their areas - but the day to day decision making on applications will still be made by civil servants using criteria set by the local council. The councillors themselves will still not be able to unilaterally overturn a decision. It's the best compromise IMO as it gives elected representatives accountability on planning without giving them too much to discriminate and get backhanders from. As for Keegan's accountability, surely if the councillors on the DCC felt that he was not fit for his job, they could dismiss him, no?

I also don't get the accusation against brooks of being greedy. Surely if he was being greedy he'd have done the three shows or the matinees and said to hell with the fans. At the time of booking anyone would have jumped at a chance to make more money from more concerts if they were led to believe there'd be no issue.
I suppose it reminds of something like this...

http://youtu.be/90HhZ-pyC2Y

As for the issue of putting on more concerts after the initial two then three sold out, you would have to had your head buried in the sand if some major issues were not foreseen. Obviously assumptions as to the licensing of the gigs before any firm decision was made, it seems to me that the old Celtic Tiger nod & wink just didn't work this time. Some would say about time this was tackled, just a shame about the event which has been affected because of it. It's a mess in the short term, but I reckon things will be better beyond it as such things will now need to be better co-ordinated from both ends.



I wouldn't have thought he could be dismissed for unpopular decision making not with current employment regulations .  The issue of appeals I raised is separate to the issue of the decision makers accountability to a degree. I'm saying when you don't have any avenue of appeal on the merits of a decision then that decision maker has to be in someway accountable to someone. If you have any appeals process that becomes less of an issue. I'm not saying such an appeal need lie to elected representatives particularly if they are unqualified.

On a related note I'm struggling to see why an uncontested JR is needed. Surely if there is sufficient merit to a JR a full emergency hearing could take place. If there is not I would be surprised if the court would accede to an unmeritorious application for political expediency.

I would assume a JR could only reverse the decision if it were legally or technically incorrect. If the decision was not legally or technically incorrect the JR would have to find for DCC. Therefore the only way the JR could find against the DCC would be if they did not defend themselves, granting the appellant a technical "walk over"
Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: Aaron Boone on July 16, 2014, 11:40:34 PM
That's a wrap. A final wrap.

No 11th hour deal.
Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: Maguire01 on July 16, 2014, 11:42:54 PM
Kerry couldn't in '82, Kilkenny failed in 2010 and now Brooks in 2014 #5inarow.


 ;D great line to quote!
And only about 3 weeks after everyone else was saying it.
Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: David McKeown on July 17, 2014, 12:31:07 AM
My issue with the decision maker being unelected or appointed is that ultimately he seems unaccountable particularly given that no appeal is permissible against the merits of the decision.  Somehow that needs to change regardless of the decision made.
Not that much different to what is currently the case in the north (though there is an appeals system, the PAC), where the only politician with any real power in such matters is the Stormont Minister for Environment (though apparently the OFMDFM can also make overriding decisions). Local councillors only have a consultation role, like referring potentially refused applications back for further review. When the new councils come into force in April, these new councils will be responsible for drawing up local development plans so they will have more of a say in the development of their areas - but the day to day decision making on applications will still be made by civil servants using criteria set by the local council. The councillors themselves will still not be able to unilaterally overturn a decision. It's the best compromise IMO as it gives elected representatives accountability on planning without giving them too much to discriminate and get backhanders from. As for Keegan's accountability, surely if the councillors on the DCC felt that he was not fit for his job, they could dismiss him, no?

I also don't get the accusation against brooks of being greedy. Surely if he was being greedy he'd have done the three shows or the matinees and said to hell with the fans. At the time of booking anyone would have jumped at a chance to make more money from more concerts if they were led to believe there'd be no issue.
I suppose it reminds of something like this...

http://youtu.be/90HhZ-pyC2Y

As for the issue of putting on more concerts after the initial two then three sold out, you would have to had your head buried in the sand if some major issues were not foreseen. Obviously assumptions as to the licensing of the gigs before any firm decision was made, it seems to me that the old Celtic Tiger nod & wink just didn't work this time. Some would say about time this was tackled, just a shame about the event which has been affected because of it. It's a mess in the short term, but I reckon things will be better beyond it as such things will now need to be better co-ordinated from both ends.



I wouldn't have thought he could be dismissed for unpopular decision making not with current employment regulations .  The issue of appeals I raised is separate to the issue of the decision makers accountability to a degree. I'm saying when you don't have any avenue of appeal on the merits of a decision then that decision maker has to be in someway accountable to someone. If you have any appeals process that becomes less of an issue. I'm not saying such an appeal need lie to elected representatives particularly if they are unqualified.

On a related note I'm struggling to see why an uncontested JR is needed. Surely if there is sufficient merit to a JR a full emergency hearing could take place. If there is not I would be surprised if the court would accede to an unmeritorious application for political expediency.

I would assume a JR could only reverse the decision if it were legally or technically incorrect. If the decision was not legally or technically incorrect the JR would have to find for DCC. Therefore the only way the JR could find against the DCC would be if they did not defend themselves, granting the appellant a technical "walk over"

Any JR would only succeed if it had merit. That is there was a ground for JR. The lack of opposition to a JR would not get over that hurdle that's why I am surprised on Aiken requiring an uncontested JR
Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: moysider on July 17, 2014, 01:04:26 AM
That's a wrap. A final wrap.

No 11th hour deal.

No deal. But not a rap either.

There s huge issues still to be resolved.

One thing that is very obvious. Croke Park is in the wrong place ( again I ll repeat that location should never have been developed). Former director Mulvihill had reservations but allowed the nostalgists to have their way. He must be cringing now. It was an awful call. It has been a disaster. Basically the biggest initiative/investment by the GAA is effectively locked down for events.
The venue is a disaster as regards accessibity. It s already begining to age to an extent but in 20 years no effort has been made to make gettting there easier. There s a railway behind Hill16 and no station ffs.


Any relations between Croke Park/Dublin CC are now fucked up for good and it appears they were not good at any time anyway. Then there is the obvious Dublin/Culchie divide. It s an anomaly anyway to have this facility in a place where it is.
Geographically wrong. Culturally and sportingly wrong as well. And it is obviously resented there too.
Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: THE MIGHTY QUINN on July 17, 2014, 01:25:36 AM
I drove past the Garth Brooks Boulevard in Oklahama City this morning. I made sure I kept my mouth shut.  Chances are any man going down that street with an Irish accent could get his head kicked in
Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: moysider on July 17, 2014, 01:31:10 AM
I drove past the Garth Brooks Boulevard in Oklahama City this morning. I made sure I kept my mouth shut.  Chances are any man going down that street with an Irish accent could get his head kicked in

I doubt it.
Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: Gaffer on July 17, 2014, 08:01:39 AM
I drove past the Garth Brooks Boulevard in Oklahama City this morning. I made sure I kept my mouth shut.  Chances are any man going down that street with an Irish accent could get his head kicked in

' head kicked in '.........  A real 80s spake!!!!
Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: haranguerer on July 17, 2014, 08:36:41 AM
Can I just ask, why did Brooks ever stop playing his local bars? Why did Aiken move on from shows in parish halls? Why do I, and presumably you, work longer hours to earn more money than we need to survive?

I hate people talking absolute shit about 'greed'. Wake up, this is the world we live in, and if thats how you define greed, then we're all greedy.
The first bit is a strawman - no one here that I see has suggested that it is wrong for Brooks to have moved from playing in his local bar to playing in residence at Vegas, nor for the case with Aiken promotions. Nor has anyone questioned the ethics of working for anything more than a subsistence living.

What is being questioned is how the GAA, Aiken promotions and Brooks himself is involved in making money through these concerts as to how they pass the externalities they generate through this on to others. Although not exactly a business transaction, the 11th night bonfires in many parts of Belfast in response to celebrating their culture (their words, not mine) pass on externalities of environmental damage (repair costs passed on to ratepayers & taxpayers along with possible disruption to other services & businesses) and issues with health to those living nearby & beyond (carcinogens and poisons released into the air hough the burning of used tyres and chemically treated wood) as well as possible anti-social behaviour. In more saner business terms, it is why the likes of planning regulations, zoning and environmental laws are put into place. In the case of these planned concerts, the externalities being passed on here affect the quality of life living in the vicinity of Croke Park - and this is where the talk of "greed" comes in. "Greed" here is what some people regard as an excessive passing on of externalities without engaging in the right communication channels.

Most outdoor events which can have a significant impact on the local area (e.g. noise pollution, litter, traffic, surface damage) usually sees organisers, local authorities and local residents come to agreements and sometimes compromises over what is involved so that all involved are happy. If this breaks down though then it's up to whoever allows the event to go ahead to make the final call. The major problem with Croke Park is that it sits in a major residential area with limited public transport links, no large on-site car parking facilities and (AFAIK) no dedicated park & ride schemes. In terms of urban planning, that doesn't look great to me.

I don't believe that this kind of "greed" is part of the world we live in, rather it is part of the cute hoor seeking short-term get-rich-quick ideas that is prevalent in much of Irish society and of a similar mindset in other parts of the world (e.g. air quality in Bejing and historically in Los Angeles). But in most parts of Europe plans and developments are often made which see issues like what has been seen in this case happen not terribly often. For example Switzerland can be described as a very business friendly country but they don't let their environment get arse raped in attracting foreign investment, not to mention scoring highly in quality-of-life polls. A similar stance goes for Nordic countries who rank among the top countries in the world for ease of business even allowing for high income tax rates. As for me? Well I just don't consider myself the Gordon Gecko type as I don't think I'd ever be content with myself otherwise. I just see that unrestricted greed leads to an eventual 'tragedy of the commons'.

The point is that we can call greed at any point in any business transaction - strangely enough, usually its called in retrospect, and said to have occurred at the exact point it goes wrong. Something goes tits up, 'greed' is decried, and everyone nods knowingly.

What you've said is largley irrelevant in terms of the GB shows. 
Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: haranguerer on July 17, 2014, 08:48:54 AM
As for the issue of putting on more concerts after the initial two then three sold out, you would have to had your head buried in the sand if some major issues were not foreseen. Obviously assumptions as to the licensing of the gigs before any firm decision was made, it seems to me that the old Celtic Tiger nod & wink just didn't work this time. Some would say about time this was tackled, just a shame about the event which has been affected because of it. It's a mess in the short term, but I reckon things will be better beyond it as such things will now need to be better co-ordinated from both ends.

Those same assumptions were made for 1 gig, then 2, etc. 

It'll be a right bit beyond it - I can't see tour organisers queueing up to get into it after this. And when they do, it'll be for a lot less than they would have been expected to pay prior to the fiasco.
Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: thebigfella on July 17, 2014, 10:34:17 AM
That's a wrap. A final wrap.

No 11th hour deal.

No deal. But not a rap either.

There s huge issues still to be resolved.

One thing that is very obvious. Croke Park is in the wrong place ( again I ll repeat that location should never have been developed). Former director Mulvihill had reservations but allowed the nostalgists to have their way. He must be cringing now. It was an awful call. It has been a disaster. Basically the biggest initiative/investment by the GAA is effectively locked down for events.
The venue is a disaster as regards accessibity. It s already begining to age to an extent but in 20 years no effort has been made to make gettting there easier. There s a railway behind Hill16 and no station ffs.


Any relations between Croke Park/Dublin CC are now fucked up for good and it appears they were not good at any time anyway. Then there is the obvious Dublin/Culchie divide. It s an anomaly anyway to have this facility in a place where it is.
Geographically wrong. Culturally and sportingly wrong as well. And it is obviously resented there too.

That is some persecution complex you have there  ::) 

The reality is DCC made this decision based on the impact to a residential area; 3 of the performances on a what are categorised work nights was deemed disruptive. It's not them persecuting the poor culchies.
Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: Fionntamhnach on July 17, 2014, 11:23:12 AM
The point is that we can call greed at any point in any business transaction
Hold on a second - we've now moved on from saying that anything beyond earning enough to have a subsistence living is greed to saying that greed can occur "...at any point in any business transaction"? You do realise that if a starving homeless man in the street sells a possession to a passer-by in exchange for some food then by that definition that can be called "greed"?

strangely enough, usually its called in retrospect, and said to have occurred at the exact point it goes wrong. Something goes tits up, 'greed' is decried, and everyone nods knowingly.
Sometimes it can be called in retrospect, sometimes it's in plain sight. Nearly everyone and their dog knows about the ongoing friction for years of a section of residents in the vicinity of Croke Park and that of representatives of the GAA - it was highlighted pretty damn early in this thread. The retrospective terms are in the practices carried out for this concert that had changed very little from a decade ago which should have taught people valuable lessons (nothing wrong in failing on its own if you learn from it). Communities and societies that have thrived and succeeded have learned on the lessons of themselves, their forefathers and others, for example modern day Germany post WW2 put in measures of its "social market economy" to become the largest net exporter in the world - a lot of its business factored by the memories of hyperinflation in the days of the Weimar Republic.

What you've said is largley irrelevant in terms of the GB shows.
You don't seem to understand what externalities are if what I have previously said is "largely irrelevant".
Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: Fionntamhnach on July 17, 2014, 11:40:31 AM
That's a wrap. A final wrap.

No 11th hour deal.

No deal. But not a rap either.

There s huge issues still to be resolved.

One thing that is very obvious. Croke Park is in the wrong place ( again I ll repeat that location should never have been developed). Former director Mulvihill had reservations but allowed the nostalgists to have their way. He must be cringing now. It was an awful call. It has been a disaster. Basically the biggest initiative/investment by the GAA is effectively locked down for events.
The venue is a disaster as regards accessibity. It s already begining to age to an extent but in 20 years no effort has been made to make gettting there easier. There s a railway behind Hill16 and no station ffs.


Any relations between Croke Park/Dublin CC are now fucked up for good and it appears they were not good at any time anyway. Then there is the obvious Dublin/Culchie divide. It s an anomaly anyway to have this facility in a place where it is.
Geographically wrong. Culturally and sportingly wrong as well. And it is obviously resented there too.

That is some persecution complex you have there  ::) 

The reality is DCC made this decision based on the impact to a residential area; 3 of the performances on a what are categorised work nights was deemed disruptive. It's not them persecuting the poor culchies.
Other than that, most of the points made have validity. Back in 1993 when planning permission was originally granted, we didn't have backdoor systems in football or hurling, and non-GAA events in Croke Park were novelties rather than half expected to occur for several nights each year. Factor in also the likes of the non-McCarthy cup hurling championship finals, Intermediate & Junior club championship finals etc. and the Croke Park of 2014 is used as a facility much more often that back 20 years ago. The problem is that physical expansion of Croke Park to accommodate this growing level of activities, as well as its administrative expansion, is nigh impossible unless the GAA tries to buy all the properties where it wants to expand, which would be a significant monetary cost. Elsewhere, say an English Premiership soccer club, a consideration to move to a new greenfield or brownfield site would be openly discussed but I reckon that the sheer capacity of Croke Park and the money spent on it over the past two decades means that pulling up the anchor would be extremely difficult. The only thing I can of from the top of my head that could help in the short term would be for the GAA to establish park & ride schemes in several parts of the outskirts of the city and try to strike deals with Dublin Bus, Bus Eireann & Translink - failing that, approaching private coach firms to provide shuttle transport on match/event days.
Title: Re: Shower of cowboys! Garth Brooks not in Croke Park
Post by: LeoMc on July 17, 2014, 12:14:33 PM
Most ( if not all ) of the resident v's GAA conflict could be engineered out if the O'Connell schools campus was moved to a new site in the Clonliffe College grounds.

A large plaza could then be created in front of Croker and could be used as the single entry point for the stadium. Croker could then be used a lot more, which is a win win for the whole country and the GAA.

Site:  http://binged.it/1w0RNso (http://binged.it/1w0RNso)

Have a look at the link, specifically the playground areas to get an idea of how a large plaza could be created.

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how can you relocate a playground?

Has the purchase of ground from Clonliffe college to allow a new school campus to be built ever been costed out. A green field build out of Dublin might be not cost much more.
Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: haranguerer on July 17, 2014, 12:15:38 PM
The point is that we can call greed at any point in any business transaction
Hold on a second - we've now moved on from saying that anything beyond earning enough to have a subsistence living is greed to saying that greed can occur "...at any point in any business transaction"? You do realise that if a starving homeless man in the street sells a possession to a passer-by in exchange for some food then by that definition that can be called "greed"?

strangely enough, usually its called in retrospect, and said to have occurred at the exact point it goes wrong. Something goes tits up, 'greed' is decried, and everyone nods knowingly.
Sometimes it can be called in retrospect, sometimes it's in plain sight. Nearly everyone and their dog knows about the ongoing friction for years of a section of residents in the vicinity of Croke Park and that of representatives of the GAA - it was highlighted pretty damn early in this thread. The retrospective terms are in the practices carried out for this concert that had changed very little from a decade ago which should have taught people valuable lessons (nothing wrong in failing on its own if you learn from it). Communities and societies that have thrived and succeeded have learned on the lessons of themselves, their forefathers and others, for example modern day Germany post WW2 put in measures of its "social market economy" to become the largest net exporter in the world - a lot of its business factored by the memories of hyperinflation in the days of the Weimar Republic.

What you've said is largley irrelevant in terms of the GB shows.
You don't seem to understand what externalities are if what I have previously said is "largely irrelevant".

Of course it can, if he looked too much for it. My point is that pushing for 5 shows is no more greedy than pushing for 3, and no more greedy than expanding into stadia in the first place, and no more greedy than ever stopping performing in bars. If we were all to become successful businessmen, who went bust, no doubt there'd be talk of greed having been our downfall. And this is where my analogy to earning more than necessary to sustain - where is the line? At what point does someone become too greedy? From what I can see, only when they fail, and that can only be identified in retrospect. When alls going well, greed is called ambition.

Of course I understand what you mean by externalities. Its not a hard concept. In terms of the GB shows, the 'externalities' are the same for 3, as they are for 5. 3 isnt greedy, 5 is. Go figure.
Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: balladmaker on July 17, 2014, 12:23:05 PM
I wonder how long it will take for Aiken to give DCC the two fingers and put Brooks into Belfast or somewhere else in the north for a week of open air shows. 
Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: thebigfella on July 17, 2014, 12:45:07 PM
As the main point of contention is the consecutive 5 nights; the fairest thing to do would be to run them over consecutive weekends. Everyone needs to compromise and there still appears to be this 5 or nothing consecutive nights vibe from Aiken/Brooks/GAA.

It is entirely possible the GAA could reschedule the following weekends events to allow the gigs to go ahead.
Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: muppet on July 17, 2014, 12:46:20 PM
As the main point of contention is the consecutive 5 nights; the fairest thing to do would be to run them over consecutive weekends. Everyone needs to compromise and there still appears to be this 5 or nothing consecutive nights vibe from Aiken/Brooks/GAA.

It is entirely possible the GAA could reschedule the following weekends events to allow the gigs to go ahead.

The AIF 1/4 finals are played over the 3 days of the Bank Holiday Weekend. There would be uproar if that got reshuffled.
Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: thebigfella on July 17, 2014, 12:57:08 PM
As the main point of contention is the consecutive 5 nights; the fairest thing to do would be to run them over consecutive weekends. Everyone needs to compromise and there still appears to be this 5 or nothing consecutive nights vibe from Aiken/Brooks/GAA.

It is entirely possible the GAA could reschedule the following weekends events to allow the gigs to go ahead.

The AIF 1/4 finals are played over the 3 days of the Bank Holiday Weekend. There would be uproar if that got reshuffled.

Yep I know... It's a compromise though and the fairest one for everyone involved. If this is truly the once in a lifetime event they are hyping; surely moving a few fixtures is worth it.

Let the people decide though; sell tickets for both and see who sells the most  :P
Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: Syferus on July 17, 2014, 01:01:35 PM
As the main point of contention is the consecutive 5 nights; the fairest thing to do would be to run them over consecutive weekends. Everyone needs to compromise and there still appears to be this 5 or nothing consecutive nights vibe from Aiken/Brooks/GAA.

It is entirely possible the GAA could reschedule the following weekends events to allow the gigs to go ahead.

The AIF 1/4 finals are played over the 3 days of the Bank Holiday Weekend. There would be uproar if that got reshuffled.

They aren't.
Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: Fionntamhnach on July 17, 2014, 01:33:19 PM
Of course it can, if he looked too much for it. My point is that pushing for 5 shows is no more greedy than pushing for 3, and no more greedy than expanding into stadia in the first place, and no more greedy than ever stopping performing in bars. If we were all to become successful businessmen, who went bust, no doubt there'd be talk of greed having been our downfall. And this is where my analogy to earning more than necessary to sustain - where is the line? At what point does someone become too greedy? From what I can see, only when they fail, and that can only be identified in retrospect. When alls going well, greed is called ambition.

Of course I understand what you mean by externalities. Its not a hard concept. In terms of the GB shows, the 'externalities' are the same for 3, as they are for 5. 3 isnt greedy, 5 is. Go figure.
"Of course it can, if he looked too much for it." So how much is too much? You contradict yourself near immediately with "pushing for 5 shows is no more greedy than pushing for 3". A child could point out what is wrong with that statement. Is pushing for 3 concerts being greedy but not 2? What about 1? Had they "looked too much for it"?

I've already pointed out how greed can be spotted at the time of live events as they happen - witness the concerns raised about the housing bubble that people got themselves into before 2008 and those that did point them out were told by one politician to go and commit suicide. In any case, business failure can sometimes be attributed to greed but more often than not it is down to inadequate planning & decision making (e.g. setting up a business that has not done its market research properly and which quickly fails inside 2 years) along with external factors beyond their general control that may be associated with the inability to adapt as such, for example when a technology gets superseded like a video & DVD rental shop in the face of internet streaming, or the proliferation of blacksmiths when motor cars started replacing horse & carts? Most people who run small businesses with a shop-front or as simply self-employed do so simply to make a living for themselves and have a comfortable life & retirement, not with the intention to be multi-millionaires.

And never attempt to think that ambition and greed are the same thing - ambition recognises the need for restraint so that the value of what you have today can continue tomorrow as well as recognising what your limits both with yourself and within your environment. Greed does not recognise these values. In the same way nature abhors a vacuum, it also has ways of dealing with greed that can lead to hunger, injury and even death. Most species on this planet don't do greed on their own will and for that matter neither did the hunter-gather groups of the first humans on Earth.

If you cannot recognise why the DCC allowed three of the concerts to go ahead but not five, it's simple - the two rejected were on weeknights, and the negative externalities that this would have placed on the area surrounding Croke Park was deemed to be too much to allow them to go ahead not to mention the setting of precedents in the future. If I was your neighbour and I informed you in advance that I was having a party on Friday & Saturday night in a couple of weeks time you might ask me to keep noise levels down so your children could get sleep, or that you have to get up early for work the following morning and need rest. We come to an agreement to say keep noise levels down and cut out the music at a certain time, ensure the place is cleaned up quickly etc. and everyone involved is fine. If I was to have an additional three parties on the Sunday, Monday and Tuesday nights as well with the volume turned to 11 and kept going until 6 or 7 in the morning, my visitors leave empty bottles, litter and urinate in your garden then this not only affects your quality of life, damage to your property and also affects your work productivity through lack of sleep (and your children's work at school), you then ring me up to complain about it, I tell you to f**k off then I reckon you're unlikely to let it settle there. I might try and pay you off, but you might consider that there are some elements of your life that can't be bought. See where this is going? Some might say that those who intended to go to these concerts would be respectful of the properties surround Croke Park and the people in them - but if the responses I've seen on the likes of Facebook and internet foura are anything to go by, it would certainly beg to differ. To say that the externalities for allowing five concerts to go ahead are the same as three is at best a fallacy, at worst an outright lie.
Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: haranguerer on July 17, 2014, 02:03:10 PM
Of course it can, if he looked too much for it. My point is that pushing for 5 shows is no more greedy than pushing for 3, and no more greedy than expanding into stadia in the first place, and no more greedy than ever stopping performing in bars. If we were all to become successful businessmen, who went bust, no doubt there'd be talk of greed having been our downfall. And this is where my analogy to earning more than necessary to sustain - where is the line? At what point does someone become too greedy? From what I can see, only when they fail, and that can only be identified in retrospect. When alls going well, greed is called ambition.

Of course I understand what you mean by externalities. Its not a hard concept. In terms of the GB shows, the 'externalities' are the same for 3, as they are for 5. 3 isnt greedy, 5 is. Go figure.
"Of course it can, if he looked too much for it." So how much is too much? You contradict yourself near immediately with "pushing for 5 shows is no more greedy than pushing for 3". A child could point out what is wrong with that statement. Is pushing for 3 concerts being greedy but not 2? What about 1? Had they "looked too much for it"?


This has been my point from the start. Its always only too much when it goes tits up, and thats when you see greed bandied about. Most of the rest of what you say is irrelevant (at best).

Interesting that the way you tell it, its only the weeknight gigs that will have the volume turned to 11, go on til 6 or 7 am, and have people urinating, throwing bottles etc, in your garden...you think the crowd is rougher on weeknights? And are the externalities for 3 greater than 2? For 2, greater than 1? See where this is going?

My point is, there may have been many things wrong with the whole process. There is no doubt that better efforts to work with the residents - and perhaps record the outcome this time - could have been made. It is only going to be damaging to shoehorn the concerts down the throats of the residents. But its nauseating to hear the crowing about 'greed' in putting on 5 concerts instead of 4/3/2/1 being the problem, because theres no more greed involved there than in many other areas of all our lives.

That third paragraph of yours is a load of bollocks by the way
Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: ballinaman on July 17, 2014, 02:39:23 PM
100 pager...lets do this.
Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: thebigfella on July 17, 2014, 02:59:47 PM
We'll struggle, dead and buried now and blame game has run its course. In surprised Godwin's law hasn't been invoked yet.
Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: Rossfan on July 17, 2014, 03:24:39 PM
She could make the 100.
Sure the Tyrone lads have nothing else to be posting about now. ;D
Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: thebigfella on July 17, 2014, 03:53:04 PM
I'll help it to 70 anyway.

Keegan back appearing in front of the Oireachtas committee tomorrow with speculation that his resignation will be called for. Hmmmm if he's forced to resign, could the unions call for strike action? Now that would be some craic  :D
Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: armaghniac on July 17, 2014, 04:05:07 PM
I'll help it to 70 anyway.

Keegan back appearing in front of the Oireachtas committee tomorrow with speculation that his resignation will be called for. Hmmmm if he's forced to resign, could the unions call for strike action? Now that would be some craic  :D

If the county managers union went on strike, they'd hardly get much support. The lower level unions wouldn't give a damn about Keegan, privatiser of bins, given the bin strike on the at the moment, they might well be more interested in the jobs of people in hotels etc.
Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: Rossfan on July 17, 2014, 04:33:39 PM
I'll help it to 70 anyway.

Keegan back appearing in front of the Oireachtas committee tomorrow with speculation that his resignation will be called for.

Nothing like a biteen of political hot air posturing and bandwagon jumping.
Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: Fionntamhnach on July 18, 2014, 04:56:13 AM
This has been my point from the start. Its always only too much when it goes tits up, and thats when you see greed bandied about. Most of the rest of what you say is irrelevant (at best).

Interesting that the way you tell it, its only the weeknight gigs that will have the volume turned to 11, go on til 6 or 7 am, and have people urinating, throwing bottles etc, in your garden...you think the crowd is rougher on weeknights? And are the externalities for 3 greater than 2? For 2, greater than 1? See where this is going?

My point is, there may have been many things wrong with the whole process. There is no doubt that better efforts to work with the residents - and perhaps record the outcome this time - could have been made. It is only going to be damaging to shoehorn the concerts down the throats of the residents. But its nauseating to hear the crowing about 'greed' in putting on 5 concerts instead of 4/3/2/1 being the problem, because theres no more greed involved there than in many other areas of all our lives.

That third paragraph of yours is a load of bollocks by the way
When you try to dismiss my points by simply saying "irrelevant" and "load of bollocks" without either addressing them, then I may as well talk to a brick wall so unless you're willing to expand on it this will be my last words on the matter. It doesn't take a genius to work out that noise pollution and sleep deprivation has an increasing effect on peoples health in the same way that long term exposure to a hazardous material provides greater risks that small, short-term levels can be deemed safe. No point repeating myself any further on that. You also conveniently ignore empirical evidence of recognising greed and how to avoid the consequences of it.
What you have mistaken here is to take greed as a specific value - namely one that has a specific value in looking to obtain anything more than a subsistence living (and how that is decided upon is up for debate, does it mean anything beyond wearing a loincloth and scraps from dustbins?) whereas I and many others here would take it as a subjectively moral value defined by an excessiveness which does not have control of wants after needs are met (hence restraint and sustainability). Only within the last century has any popular thinking come forward of seeing greed in anything other than a negative light. The closest before that in Europe involved Calvinistic doctrine regarding Predestination and Total Depravity that still recognised that without some way of social order being enforced to curtail the sins of people then there was nothing to stop the "saved" from committing deadly acts against those that were deemed would not be saved.
Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: Mayo4Sam on July 23, 2014, 09:50:14 AM
Anyone watch prime time last nite?

Me neither
Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: laoislad on July 23, 2014, 09:51:19 AM
Anyone watch prime time last nite?

Me neither
Yeah I did. Very emotional.
Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: Mayo4Sam on July 23, 2014, 09:58:18 AM
I thought I spotted you with a pink cowboy hat on
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Post by: Mayo4Sam on July 23, 2014, 10:01:29 AM

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Post by: Under Lights on July 23, 2014, 10:05:29 AM
Looking forward to this on friday.
Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: Hereiam on July 23, 2014, 10:16:58 AM
Has anyone got there refunds yet? No sign of mine yet
Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: HiMucker on July 23, 2014, 10:36:03 AM
I heard there was a bit of uproar with people getting shafted on the exchange rate on their refunds.
Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: Under Lights on July 23, 2014, 10:52:22 AM
I received mine back on 21st

143.10, VRATE 1.2660, FGN PUR FEE 0.75, N-S TRN FEE 3.00 £116.78

Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: Hereiam on July 23, 2014, 11:53:09 AM
I see its refunded now.
I paid out £353.83 + £7.07 bank charge because it was to the south
and I have received back £339.10
This whole f**k up has cost me £21.08. Why didn't I just tell the wife we weren't going from the start and that would have been that.
Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: Hereiam on July 23, 2014, 12:10:51 PM
Thanks for that HS you know how to raise a mans spirit.
Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 23, 2014, 12:13:18 PM
That'll learn yis!

By the way, hereiam, you actually lost £21.80

How (if any) did Aiken actually lose?
Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: Under Lights on July 23, 2014, 12:15:57 PM
I am down £5.36 from it.
Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: orangeman on July 23, 2014, 01:49:30 PM
That'll learn yis!

By the way, hereiam, you actually lost £21.80

How (if any) did Aiken actually lose?

the publicity he paid for and expenses was £1m worth allegedly
Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: Under Lights on July 23, 2014, 02:09:30 PM
That'll learn yis!

By the way, hereiam, you actually lost £21.80

How (if any) did Aiken actually lose?

the publicity he paid for and expenses was £1m worth allegedly

They'd be covered by insurance- same with GB and the cost of his stage and transport costs that he had incurred. Plus all those rhinestone shirts he bought.
Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: Bensars on July 23, 2014, 02:10:33 PM
He hasnt lost, he was insured against it.
It was said a week or two ago he would be covered, but it would leave it very diffcult or significantly more expensive  to insure against event failures in the future.
Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: armaghniac on July 23, 2014, 03:28:17 PM
I wonder did Dunnes Stores insure against Garth acting the bollocks




On the plus side, this stylish gear is now available at Euro each!
Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: EC Unique on July 23, 2014, 03:51:16 PM
I wonder did Dunnes Stores insure against Garth acting the bollocks




On the plus side, this stylish gear is now available at Euro each!

 ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: muppet on July 23, 2014, 04:54:16 PM
I wonder did Dunnes Stores insure against Garth acting the bollocks




On the plus side, this stylish gear is now available at Euro each!

 ;D ;D ;D ;D

Converted to £19.99 in Tyrone.
Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: moysider on July 23, 2014, 10:38:16 PM
I wonder did Dunnes Stores insure against Garth acting the bollocks



On the plus side, this stylish gear is now available at Euro each!

Garth did nothing wrong. If he was a greedy bollocks he would have done the 3 and not give a f**k about the other 160,000. Garth s done us a favour but we ll probably never learn to help ourselves.

Talk about not being able to organise a piss-up in a brewery.

We can t manage to organise a concert event in an 80,000 seater stadium in our capital city. That s the bottom line.
Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: Hereiam on July 23, 2014, 11:01:44 PM
What gets me is that Peter McKenna has a conversation with Dublin council who say that there is no problem with 5 nights and with the position that McKenna is in he didn't follow this up with an email. In this day and age that is a very simple and common thing to do, I do every day because it is alright saying something verbal but if it in writing there is no mistake. In my view Peter McKenna's should step aside as he made a major c**k up.
Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: Wildweasel74 on July 23, 2014, 11:04:43 PM
seen brooks t-shirts in dunnes in wexford last week, selling like hotcakes discounted of course. as they be collectors items lol
Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: moysider on July 23, 2014, 11:09:42 PM
What gets me is that Peter McKenna has a conversation with Dublin council who say that there is no problem with 5 nights and with the position that McKenna is in he didn't follow this up with an email. In this day and age that is a very simple and common thing to do, I do every day because it is alright saying something verbal but if it in writing there is no mistake. In my view Peter McKenna's should step aside as he made a major c**k up.

Hard to get a nod nod wink wink in an email.
Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: theskull1 on July 24, 2014, 12:18:37 AM

Garth did nothing wrong. If he was a greedy bollocks he would have done the 3 and not give a f**k about the other 160,000. Garth s done us a favour but we ll probably never learn to help ourselves.

He played a high risk strategy to attempt to get his way for all 5 and it backfired
Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: moysider on July 24, 2014, 01:10:56 AM

Garth did nothing wrong. If he was a greedy bollocks he would have done the 3 and not give a f**k about the other 160,000. Garth s done us a favour but we ll probably never learn to help ourselves.

He played a high risk strategy to attempt to get his way for all 5 and it backfired

Absolutely. But it backfired on us!!!
How don t people get it?
GAA were stupid to develop this location. The stadium is not wanted there. A lot of people do well from crowds attending matches there year in year out and then this shit happens. The only place that this gig might have been rejected is where Croke Park is built. Hello! I d never have been in that place unless CP was there. Local businesses have a facility there that the rest of the country could only dream of, yet it cant be used. People need to catch a grip ffs.

Garth Brookes taught us a lesson that we probably wont learn. He didn t need any two extra gigs. He doesn t need any gigs if he doesn t want to do them. Dublin needed those gigs though and the sight of Keegan playing hard ball and thinking he was offering a solution that was reasonable was risible. He knew when he made the 3 concert proposal that he had shafted the event.

Garth will still eat as much steak as often as he wants as long as he can. Anybody those that that this is a blow financially is cuckoo. He s probably richer than most counties outside the pale put together :D.

Forget about Brooks - the same issues would arise with any act that was that popular. The location of the stadium is the problem. If the GAA could they would dismantle and relocate CP in a location where they could use it. 
Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: muppet on July 24, 2014, 01:32:55 AM

Garth did nothing wrong. If he was a greedy bollocks he would have done the 3 and not give a f**k about the other 160,000. Garth s done us a favour but we ll probably never learn to help ourselves.

He played a high risk strategy to attempt to get his way for all 5 and it backfired

Absolutely. But it backfired on us!!!
How don t people get it?
GAA were stupid to develop this location. The stadium is not wanted there. A lot of people do well from crowds attending matches there year in year out and then this shit happens. The only place that this gig might have been rejected is where Croke Park is built. Hello! I d never have been in that place unless CP was there. Local businesses have a facility there that the rest of the country could only dream of, yet it cant be used. People need to catch a grip ffs.

Garth Brookes taught us a lesson that we probably wont lesson. He didn t need any two extra gigs. He doesn t need any gigs if he doesn t want to do them. Dublin needed those gigs though and the sight of Keegan playing hard ball and thinking he was offering a solution that was reasonable was risible. He knew when he made the 3 concert proposal that he had shafted the event.

Garth will still eat as much steak as often as he wants as long as he can. Anybody those that that this is a blow financially is cuckoo. He s probably richer than most counties outside the pale put together :D.

If you are still on the beer, I'll come and buy you one.  :P
Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: WT4E on July 25, 2014, 09:30:16 AM
When the idea was first floated to me about going to Garth Brooks I was indifferent.

Then I got excited about going because I do like his music and a lot of friends were going.

Once the whole will he wont he thing started I kept a good interest at the start but then got sick of it and glad it was all called off.

Then this morning (suppose to go tonight) I was listening to low places on Today FM and considering the weather I really wish it was on.

SAD really! It really is a pity it wasn't still on.
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Post by: armaghniac on July 25, 2014, 10:11:36 AM
Great weather for it.
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Post by: ONeill on July 25, 2014, 10:13:40 AM
It's back on!
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Post by: Under Lights on July 25, 2014, 10:20:53 AM
I put on a GB CD at work today as half the office were to attend the concerts this weekend.
Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: Hereiam on July 25, 2014, 10:43:35 AM
With this weather it would have been some opening nite. My god but Ireland cant not help but shoot itself in the foot.
Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: mc_grens on July 25, 2014, 10:47:50 AM
Ireland didn't cancel tonight. Brooks did.
Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: EC Unique on July 25, 2014, 11:37:09 AM
Brooks said it's my way or no way. He stuck to his guns. Fair play to him. Bigger balls than any of those fools in Dublin.
#laughingstockireland
Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: thebigfella on July 25, 2014, 11:52:19 AM
The missus summed it up this morning, "Thank fcuk we can go out this weekend without having to put up with dirty whinging redneck cnuts. Just think of the bullet they dodged. Sure they couldn't have a good time; with all the giving out about the price of drink, queue for the toilets, cost of hotels, topped off with the usual rip off Ireland hashtag".
 
Her words  :D but after the laughable sh1te over various people expecting ticketmaster to compensate  the exchange rate difference I think she has a point. It's the same any event on in Dublin we have friends at; a complete crying match over money.
Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: thebigfella on July 25, 2014, 11:56:07 AM
The only people who think Ireland is a laughing stock and think this is anyway is news outside of Ireland is garth brooks fans. It's not...... It maybe unbelievable to their tiny minds but no one gives a fcuk.
Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: screenexile on July 25, 2014, 12:04:52 PM
The only people who think Ireland is a laughing stock and think this is anyway is news outside of Ireland is garth brooks fans. It's not...... It maybe unbelievable to their tiny minds but no one gives a fcuk.

Post of the week by far!!
Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: Hereiam on July 25, 2014, 12:21:22 PM
The only people who think Ireland is a laughing stock and think this is anyway is news outside of Ireland is garth brooks fans. It's not...... It maybe unbelievable to their tiny minds but no one gives a fcuk.

Bigfella I would say you would have been on here crying if this had of happened to the one direction concerts  ;D
Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: Syferus on July 25, 2014, 01:37:07 PM
The only people who think Ireland is a laughing stock and think this is anyway is news outside of Ireland is garth brooks fans. It's not...... It maybe unbelievable to their tiny minds but no one gives a fcuk.

It always amazes me that people who attack other people so venously have so little perspective about how they themselves look.

Big, clever or funny it ain't. You've just managed to put yourself bellow any Brooks fan.
Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: moysider on July 25, 2014, 02:19:36 PM
The missus summed it up this morning, "Thank fcuk we can go out this weekend without having to put up with dirty whinging redneck cnuts. Just think of the bullet they dodged. Sure they couldn't have a good time; with all the giving out about the price of drink, queue for the toilets, cost of hotels, topped off with the usual rip off Ireland hashtag".
 
Her words  :D but after the laughable sh1te over various people expecting ticketmaster to compensate  the exchange rate difference I think she has a point. It's the same any event on in Dublin we have friends at; a complete crying match over money.

Your missus sounds like a real classy bord.
Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: muppet on July 25, 2014, 02:30:56 PM
Ireland didn't cancel tonight. Brooks did.

FFS! Mick McCarthy sent him home!
Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: haranguerer on July 25, 2014, 03:07:38 PM
The missus summed it up this morning, "Thank fcuk we can go out this weekend without having to put up with dirty whinging redneck cnuts. Just think of the bullet they dodged. Sure they couldn't have a good time; with all the giving out about the price of drink, queue for the toilets, cost of hotels, topped off with the usual rip off Ireland hashtag".
 
Her words  :D but after the laughable sh1te over various people expecting ticketmaster to compensate  the exchange rate difference I think she has a point. It's the same any event on in Dublin we have friends at; a complete crying match over money.

Your missus sounds like a real classy bord.

 :D
Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: Mayo4Sam on July 25, 2014, 03:09:36 PM
The missus summed it up this morning, "Thank fcuk we can go out this weekend without having to put up with dirty whinging redneck cnuts. Just think of the bullet they dodged. Sure they couldn't have a good time; with all the giving out about the price of drink, queue for the toilets, cost of hotels, topped off with the usual rip off Ireland hashtag".
 
Her words  :D but after the laughable sh1te over various people expecting ticketmaster to compensate  the exchange rate difference I think she has a point. It's the same any event on in Dublin we have friends at; a complete crying match over money.

What does she think of those dirty foreigners taking our jobs and our womin???
Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: ONeill on July 25, 2014, 03:14:58 PM
What does she think about Graham Norton?

Mrs thebigfella needs her own column on here.
Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: thebigfella on July 25, 2014, 03:18:46 PM
Nonsense. You two eejits not know that Ireland will never get a concert again????

Marley park has been flat out since this happened  ;)

All it will mean is the event promoter will do their due diligence now instead of waiting to the last minute to apply for licenses; especially at Croke park. Aiken knew what he was at waiting to the last minute because it applied added pressure on DCC with respect to the fans having shelled out on tickets, hotels etc....
Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: thebigfella on July 25, 2014, 03:26:08 PM
The only people who think Ireland is a laughing stock and think this is anyway is news outside of Ireland is garth brooks fans. It's not...... It maybe unbelievable to their tiny minds but no one gives a fcuk.

Bigfella I would say you would have been on here crying if this had of happened to the one direction concerts  ;D

Maybe but then again I would have had a sense of perspective :) ... You only have to look at the media coverage of the MH17 bodies being repatriated in the Netherlands or the mess that is Palestine to make you realise how insignificant a cancelled set of gigs are in the wide scheme of things.
Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: thebigfella on July 25, 2014, 03:30:58 PM
The only people who think Ireland is a laughing stock and think this is anyway is news outside of Ireland is garth brooks fans. It's not...... It maybe unbelievable to their tiny minds but no one gives a fcuk.

It always amazes me that people who attack other people so venously have so little perspective about how they themselves look.

Big, clever or funny it ain't. You've just managed to put yourself bellow any Brooks fan.

Watch the news.... A few cancelled gigs is nothing compared to what's is going on elsewhere. The constant sh1te about Ireland being a laughing stock is baseless and couldn't be further from reality.
Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: Syferus on July 25, 2014, 04:20:53 PM
The only people who think Ireland is a laughing stock and think this is anyway is news outside of Ireland is garth brooks fans. It's not...... It maybe unbelievable to their tiny minds but no one gives a fcuk.

It always amazes me that people who attack other people so venously have so little perspective about how they themselves look.

Big, clever or funny it ain't. You've just managed to put yourself bellow any Brooks fan.

Watch the news.... A few cancelled gigs is nothing compared to what's is going on elsewhere. The constant sh1te about Ireland being a laughing stock is baseless and couldn't be further from reality.

Oh, the 'Gaza' excuse. If that was the reason for not caring about local issues why the fúck is anyone here posting on a recreational sports forum? There's genocides going on each and every day of the year.

If you can't see that the reputation of our largest stadium and concert venue has been severely damaged then it's really hard to see where you're coming from. Every major artist coming to Ireland will be more wary now.
Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: thebigfella on July 25, 2014, 04:45:01 PM
The only people who think Ireland is a laughing stock and think this is anyway is news outside of Ireland is garth brooks fans. It's not...... It maybe unbelievable to their tiny minds but no one gives a fcuk.

It always amazes me that people who attack other people so venously have so little perspective about how they themselves look.

Big, clever or funny it ain't. You've just managed to put yourself bellow any Brooks fan.

Watch the news.... A few cancelled gigs is nothing compared to what's is going on elsewhere. The constant sh1te about Ireland being a laughing stock is baseless and couldn't be further from reality.

Oh, the 'Gaza' excuse. If that was the reason for not caring about local issues why the fúck is anyone here posting on a recreational sports forum? There's genocides going on each and every day of the year.

If you can't see that the reputation of our largest stadium and concert venue has been severely damaged then it's really hard to see where you're coming from. Every major artist coming to Ireland will be more wary now.

Correct it's a local issue; so why do people think the rest of the world care or in fact even know about it.

The Gaza issue is not an excuse as you put it but simply there is to put some proper perspective on things. The simple fact is that the rest of the world moves don't care and there are more important news events than a few cancelled gigs. It doesn't matter how many hashtags people put in front ireland laughing stock, joke Ireland etc.... in order to convince everyone it's true.
Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: thebigfella on July 25, 2014, 04:48:13 PM
What does she think about Graham Norton?

Mrs thebigfella needs her own column on here.

I'm not sure I get the connection but she's a fan. Then again Norton has talent :P
Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: thebigfella on July 25, 2014, 04:55:21 PM
The only people who think Ireland is a laughing stock and think this is anyway is news outside of Ireland is garth brooks fans. It's not...... It maybe unbelievable to their tiny minds but no one gives a fcuk.

It always amazes me that people who attack other people so venously have so little perspective about how they themselves look.

Big, clever or funny it ain't. You've just managed to put yourself bellow any Brooks fan.

Watch the news.... A few cancelled gigs is nothing compared to what's is going on elsewhere. The constant sh1te about Ireland being a laughing stock is baseless and couldn't be further from reality.

Oh, the 'Gaza' excuse. If that was the reason for not caring about local issues why the fúck is anyone here posting on a recreational sports forum? There's genocides going on each and every day of the year.

If you can't see that the reputation of our largest stadium and concert venue has been severely damaged then it's really hard to see where you're coming from. Every major artist coming to Ireland will be more wary now.

Regarding the reputation of the of Croke Park, no doubt promotors will carry out their due diligence before arranging gigs but is this really a bad thing? There are genuine fans who have been fcuked over here; not the fcukers buying 10 tickets to sell 8 on at a profit to pay for the weekend in Dublin.

Artists won't give a fcuk, as ultimately it will be down to the promoter. This doesn't impact its use as a sports venue lets not forget.

 
Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: highorlow on July 28, 2014, 12:07:14 PM
http://www.independent.ie/entertainment/music/aiken-defends-brooks-matinee-shows-in-us-after-irish-gigs-axed-30463752.html

He is some bolucks.
Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: screenexile on July 28, 2014, 12:17:49 PM
The only people who think Ireland is a laughing stock and think this is anyway is news outside of Ireland is garth brooks fans. It's not...... It maybe unbelievable to their tiny minds but no one gives a fcuk.

It always amazes me that people who attack other people so venously have so little perspective about how they themselves look.

Big, clever or funny it ain't. You've just managed to put yourself bellow any Brooks fan.

Watch the news.... A few cancelled gigs is nothing compared to what's is going on elsewhere. The constant sh1te about Ireland being a laughing stock is baseless and couldn't be further from reality.

Oh, the 'Gaza' excuse. If that was the reason for not caring about local issues why the fúck is anyone here posting on a recreational sports forum? There's genocides going on each and every day of the year.

If you can't see that the reputation of our largest stadium and concert venue has been severely damaged then it's really hard to see where you're coming from. Every major artist coming to Ireland will be more wary now.

Nonsense... they'll have their requisite 3 big concerts next year without any problem at all!
Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: muppet on September 09, 2014, 08:15:57 PM

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Post by: BennyCake on September 09, 2014, 08:47:11 PM
Has he given up the "music" and become a stuntman?
Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: mikehunt on September 10, 2014, 09:56:35 AM
ha ha. dance now u fat bastid. ;D
Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: orangeman on September 10, 2014, 10:06:19 AM
Has he given up the "music" and become a stuntman?

Drunk as usual.
Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: rrhf on September 10, 2014, 10:09:25 PM
There, ll not be a cow milked in dungannon tonight
Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: Tony Baloney on September 15, 2014, 10:58:17 PM
BBC1 now... Tyrone's shame.  :'(
Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: Kidder81 on September 15, 2014, 11:02:20 PM
Anyone watching BBC1? Those headers from Dungannon are back
Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: Tony Baloney on September 15, 2014, 11:05:57 PM
A good insight into life in Tyrone.
Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: Nigel White on September 15, 2014, 11:06:52 PM
They were right to cancel the concerts. Imagine 400,000 lunatics like that descending on any town.  It just doesn't bear thinking about
Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: ONeill on September 15, 2014, 11:09:50 PM
haha - "If he ever dies, like"
Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: Tony Baloney on September 15, 2014, 11:11:13 PM
They were right to cancel the concerts. Imagine 400,000 lunatics like that descending on any town.  It just doesn't bear thinking about
Garth was worried about ending up shackled in the inspection pit in thon doll's "shade".
Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: OakleafCounty on September 16, 2014, 07:40:02 AM
It was like a Peter Kay sketch show. The part with the woman getting interviewed wearing a Donegal top and tricolour cowboy hat was hilarious. One things for though. Those people are the salt of the earth and they were treated shambolically by Garth Brooks and everyone else including the members of the Dublin public who thought they were funny but just came across as assholes.
Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: tyrone girl on September 16, 2014, 10:54:59 AM
Christ i was cringing the whole way through that last night. Hilarious though.

"leaving a place on the tatoo if he ever dies  ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: Tony Baloney on September 16, 2014, 01:10:47 PM
Christ i was cringing the whole way through that last night. Hilarious though.

"leaving a place on the tatoo if he ever dies  ;D ;D ;D ;D
Which one were you? The tractor mechanic?
Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: joemamas on September 16, 2014, 01:27:30 PM
link ??
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Post by: tyrone girl on September 16, 2014, 01:54:33 PM
Christ i was cringing the whole way through that last night. Hilarious though.

"leaving a place on the tatoo if he ever dies  ;D ;D ;D ;D
Which one were you? The tractor mechanic?

 ;D i was one having my hair straightened in the hotel
Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: tyrone girl on September 16, 2014, 01:56:05 PM
link ??

Its on bbc iplayer
Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: NAG1 on September 16, 2014, 02:21:50 PM
Seriously is this the extent of some people lives?

Obviously they are doing no one any harm, but if you had stuck that programme on bbc 3 any night you would have had to ask yourself is this a skit show or what the hell.

Actually think this programme itself should have been put in the WTF thread.

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Post by: AQMP on September 16, 2014, 04:25:16 PM
Seriously is this the extent of some people lives?

Obviously they are doing no one any harm, but if you had stuck that programme on bbc 3 any night you would have had to ask yourself is this a skit show or what the hell.

Actually think this programme itself should have been put in the WTF thread.

Agreed, these shows are a modern version of Victorian freak shows...obviously with the tractor woman being a latter day equivalent of The Bearded Lady
Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: tyroneman on September 16, 2014, 08:52:44 PM
What program was it??
Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: michaelg on September 16, 2014, 09:38:46 PM
For such massive fans, why the f**k did they constantly refer to Gareth Brooks?
Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: BennyHarp on September 16, 2014, 10:06:06 PM
Just watched this on demand - holy f*ck!! It's the first time I've ever been embarrassed to be from Tyrone. Those people can't be for real, that Roisin from Dungannon must be a piss take??

"Right bois, book me aff the rest a the wick, I've an important jab til do"
Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: Tony Baloney on September 16, 2014, 10:16:50 PM
Just watched this on demand - holy f*ck!! It's the first time I've ever been embarrassed to be from Tyrone. Those people can't be for real, that Roisin from Dungannon must be a piss take??

"Right bois, book me aff the rest a the wick, I've an important jab til do"
Ach come on Benny there must be countless other occasions  ;D

I want to know which of you lads has got up on the doll with the short hair.
Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: BennyHarp on September 16, 2014, 10:24:20 PM
Just watched this on demand - holy f*ck!! It's the first time I've ever been embarrassed to be from Tyrone. Those people can't be for real, that Roisin from Dungannon must be a piss take??

"Right bois, book me aff the rest a the wick, I've an important jab til do"
Ach come on Benny there must be countless other occasions  ;D

I want to know which of you lads has got up on the doll with the short hair.

I'm usually pretty thick skinned Tony, but that was just too much!  :-[
Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: aontroim abu on October 17, 2014, 11:15:25 AM
http://www.rte.ie/news/2014/1017/653000-garth-brooks/

Oh FFS, here we go again
Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: johnneycool on October 17, 2014, 11:36:03 AM
Utter balls;


Speculation grows over Garth Brooks' concerts in 2015
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Friday 17 October 2014 10.50
Garth Brooks' current tour may overtake U2's all-time attendance record of 7.3 million people. Garth Brooks' current tour may overtake U2's all-time attendance record of 7.3 million people.

A music magazine in the United States has said Garth Brooks will "surely" play Ireland next summer.

According to the report on Billboard online, the singer's current tour may overtake U2's all-time attendance record of 7.3 million people.

The article quotes unnamed music executives as saying the country singer will use matinees to bump up ticket sales and says there will be both European and Australian legs to the tour.

It goes on to say Brooks will "surely" make a huge play in Ireland too.

So far there has been no comment from Irish promoters on the speculation.



Thought Garth couldn't do matinees as his voice/lip synching wouldn't hold out.

Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: muppet on October 17, 2014, 11:36:26 AM
McHale Park the favourite with the bookies.  :D

The Hyde won't be ready in time & Healy Park couldn't cope.
Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: Denn Forever on October 17, 2014, 11:44:35 AM
Would Portloaise not be ideal?  Good transport links.
Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: muppet on October 17, 2014, 11:47:12 AM
Would Portloaise not be ideal?  Good transport links.

Apparently Garth doesn't like the sound of 'Laois'.  :D
Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: WT4E on October 17, 2014, 12:20:53 PM
McHale Park the favourite with the bookies.  :D

The Hyde won't be ready in time & Healy Park couldn't cope.

Does it have to be a GAA ground?
Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: muppet on October 17, 2014, 12:58:55 PM
McHale Park the favourite with the bookies.  :D

The Hyde won't be ready in time & Healy Park couldn't cope.

Does it have to be a GAA ground?

Yes, the Aviva doesn't take cowboy wearing, line dancing Tyrone supporters.
Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: orangeman on October 17, 2014, 01:32:04 PM
He shouldn't be allowed entry into Ireland after the damage this man has done.

Send the fighter jets out for him as soon as he takes off.
Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: AZOffaly on October 17, 2014, 02:43:48 PM
He shouldn't be allowed entry into Ireland after the damage this man has done.

Send the fighter jets out for him as soon as he takes off.

I don't think we have fighter jets.
Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: Bingo on October 17, 2014, 02:58:11 PM
He shouldn't be allowed entry into Ireland after the damage this man has done.

Send the fighter jets out for him as soon as he takes off.

I don't think we have fighter jets.

Catapults?
Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: muppet on October 17, 2014, 03:03:49 PM
He shouldn't be allowed entry into Ireland after the damage this man has done.

Send the fighter jets out for him as soon as he takes off.

I don't think we have fighter jets.

We are more likely to send the Government Jet unfortunately.
Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: Puckoon on October 17, 2014, 03:45:25 PM
McHale Park the favourite with the bookies.  :D

The Hyde won't be ready in time & Healy Park couldn't cope.

Does it have to be a GAA ground?

Yes, the Aviva doesn't take cowboy wearing, line dancing Tyrone supporters.

How does one wear a cowboy? Brokeback style?
Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: muppet on October 17, 2014, 05:05:13 PM
McHale Park the favourite with the bookies.  :D

The Hyde won't be ready in time & Healy Park couldn't cope.

Does it have to be a GAA ground?

Yes, the Aviva doesn't take cowboy wearing, line dancing Tyrone supporters.

How does one wear a cowboy? Brokeback style?

I'm throwing my hat at this one.  ;)
Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: orangeman on November 14, 2014, 09:52:42 AM
Brooks thinks a lot of his family.   ::) ::)
 :P

Garth Brooks: ‘Losing Croke Park gigs was like a member of my family dying’

http://www.independent.ie/entertainment/music/garth-brooks-losing-croke-park-gigs-was-like-a-member-of-my-family-dying-30744144.html
Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: deiseach on November 14, 2014, 09:54:47 AM
Garth watched Sophie's Choice and wondered what all the fuss was about. Now he has experienced a real dilemma!
Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: orangeman on February 04, 2015, 08:27:54 AM
Move over Garth and make way for Brucie. 12 nights in a row.
Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: theticklemister on February 04, 2015, 08:28:45 AM
Move over Garth and make way for Brucie. 12 nights in a row.

Forsyth?
Title: Re: Will he or won't he! Garth Brooks and Croke Park
Post by: orangeman on February 04, 2015, 08:46:41 AM
Move over Garth and make way for Brucie. 12 nights in a row.

Forsyth?

A brilliant disguise.
Title: Re: Garth Brooks and Croke Park : Boss to intervene?
Post by: armaghniac on February 04, 2015, 11:17:32 AM
This rumour is born to run.
Title: Re: Garth Brooks and Croke Park : Boss to intervene?
Post by: gallsman on February 04, 2015, 11:22:09 AM
This rumour is born to run.

The queues will be out in the streets.
Title: Re: Garth Brooks and Croke Park : Boss to intervene?
Post by: armaghniac on February 04, 2015, 11:24:25 AM
This rumour is born to run.

The queues will be out in the streets.

They'll even go down to the river.
Title: Re: Garth Brooks and Croke Park : Boss to intervene?
Post by: gallsman on February 04, 2015, 03:56:03 PM
Rolling Stone associate editor definitively saying Bruce is NOT play Croker.
Title: Re: Garth Brooks and Croke Park : Boss to intervene?
Post by: JoG2 on February 04, 2015, 04:06:28 PM
Edward Sheeran then
Title: Re: Garth Brooks and Croke Park : Boss to intervene?
Post by: BennyCake on February 04, 2015, 05:15:18 PM
Rolling Stone associate editor definitively saying Bruce is NOT play Croker.

He obviously didn't play his cards right there.
Title: Re: Garth Brooks and Croke Park : Boss to intervene?
Post by: Agent Orange on February 04, 2015, 10:28:04 PM

Title: Re: Garth Brooks and Croke Park : Boss to intervene?
Post by: orangeman on April 09, 2015, 01:14:13 AM
Garth hasn't forgotten us. He's all heart.

http://www.independent.ie/entertainment/music/music-news/garth-brooks-plans-return-to-ireland-to-make-it-up-to-fans-for-croke-park-debacle-31126623.html
Title: Re: Garth Brooks and Croke Park : Boss to intervene?
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on May 24, 2017, 03:40:20 PM
Ready to go again?

http://evoke.ie/showbiz/exclusive-garth-brooks-confirms-ireland-concerts-for-2018
Title: Re: Garth Brooks and Croke Park : Boss to intervene?
Post by: thebigfella on May 24, 2017, 04:38:08 PM
Ready to go again?

http://evoke.ie/showbiz/exclusive-garth-brooks-confirms-ireland-concerts-for-2018

Ah FFS here we go again ::)
Title: Re: Garth Brooks and Croke Park : Boss to intervene?
Post by: Taylor on May 24, 2017, 04:44:03 PM
More pages of complete nonsense.

Bet he will tow the line this time and not think he can call the shots
Title: Re: Garth Brooks and Croke Park : Boss to intervene?
Post by: johnneycool on May 24, 2017, 04:49:34 PM
Get the dust blown off those stetsons stored in that garage in Tyrone somewhere!!!

 8)
Title: Re: Garth Brooks and Croke Park : Boss to intervene?
Post by: BennyCake on May 24, 2017, 05:30:31 PM
You mean he's not playing Tyrone?
Title: Re: Garth Brooks and Croke Park : Boss to intervene?
Post by: laoislad on May 24, 2017, 09:01:59 PM
Great news. If only because it will upset all the music snobs.
Title: Re: Garth Brooks and Croke Park : Boss to intervene?
Post by: Main Street on May 24, 2017, 10:49:49 PM
Get the dust blown off those stetsons stored in that garage in Tyrone somewhere!!! 8)
Stetsons are kept in a Tyrone man's bedroom.



Title: Re: Garth Brooks and Croke Park : Boss to intervene?
Post by: stew on May 26, 2017, 07:02:26 AM
More pages of complete nonsense.

Bet he will tow the line this time and not think he can call the shots

The man is absolutely brilliant and I hope to catch him when he does finally return to Ireland.
Title: Re: Garth Brooks and Croke Park : Boss to intervene?
Post by: Captain Obvious on September 13, 2021, 05:43:17 PM
Garth Brooks reviving plans for concerts in Dublin next year.
Title: Re: Garth Brooks and Croke Park : Boss to intervene?
Post by: Kidder81 on September 13, 2021, 05:55:14 PM
Garth Brooks reviving plans for concerts in Dublin next year.

Tyronies thought life couldn’t get any better
Title: Re: Garth Brooks and Croke Park : Boss to intervene?
Post by: Itchy on September 13, 2021, 06:50:44 PM
What is the fascination with this talentless cowboy
Title: Re: Garth Brooks and Croke Park : Boss to intervene?
Post by: thebigfella on September 13, 2021, 08:23:36 PM
Who said lockdowns don’t achieve nothing?
Title: Re: Garth Brooks and Croke Park : Boss to intervene?
Post by: rrhf on September 14, 2021, 01:31:43 PM
What is the fascination with this talentless cowboy

 ;D
Title: Re: Garth Brooks and Croke Park : Boss to intervene?
Post by: armaghniac on September 14, 2021, 01:41:58 PM
The GAA should get 10,000 tickets for this and give them to the referees so that poeple in the actual counties can go to the All Ireland.
Title: Re: Garth Brooks and Croke Park : Boss to intervene?
Post by: BennyCake on September 14, 2021, 03:54:13 PM
For once, only one county (Tyrone) should get 100% of a ticket allocation. There’ll be no complaints from any other county on that score  ;D
Title: Re: Garth Brooks and Croke Park : Boss to intervene?
Post by: thewobbler on September 14, 2021, 04:01:15 PM
The GAA should get 10,000 tickets for this and give them to the referees so that poeple in the actual counties can go to the All Ireland.

So upset about this, and yet still so unable to balance in your head that what a bandwagon supporter contributes to the GAA, is minuscule compared to what a referee contributes to the GAA.

The “Association” aspect of the name seems lost on you. 

Title: Re: Garth Brooks and Croke Park : Boss to intervene?
Post by: armaghniac on September 14, 2021, 07:13:06 PM
The GAA should get 10,000 tickets for this and give them to the referees so that poeple in the actual counties can go to the All Ireland.

So upset about this, and yet still so unable to balance in your head that what a bandwagon supporter contributes to the GAA, is minuscule compared to what a referee contributes to the GAA.

The “Association” aspect of the name seems lost on you.

Perhaps I should not have mentioned referees, for whom I have admiration. Imagine then are part of the rental of the stadium that the GAA has some prime seats for sponsors.
I made a point in general about actual attendence being on the strengths of the GAA and they should exploit that. You may not agree.
Title: Re: Garth Brooks and Croke Park : Boss to intervene?
Post by: Bord na Mona man on September 14, 2021, 10:08:42 PM
It always give me a chuckle at how many of his lifelong fans still think his name is "Gareth Brooks".