Manager's Salaries

Started by trailer, December 08, 2023, 10:54:06 AM

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Itchy

I've never heard to a GAA manager paying tax on "expenses" from a club or county but I suppose it could be happening somewhere

Milltown Row2

Quote from: Saffrongael on December 08, 2023, 08:06:12 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 08, 2023, 07:27:45 PMMaybe if the fans stopped going to the games that would drop the payments?

You would be lucky if more than 500 people would go to an Antrim football league game and the management ticket was over £100k for the year

I'm sure some committed Antrim supporters, who are not short of a few bob, are happy to help with expenses.

Have you any local names who'll do it for nothing?
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

Milltown Row2

Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on December 08, 2023, 09:00:50 PMI did smile when it was reported on here the other day that a county manager was giving off about how the dodgy box was sucking much needed funds out of the GAA.
We're through the keyhole at this stage. Pay the players and be done.

Would need to be 'shared' but can't see that happening...

No one should be out of pocket, but the figures are crazy!

I can remember getting my 'phone' (pre mobiles lol) expenses when taking teams, club paid it on Paddys day, expenses were spent in club!
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Armagh18

Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on December 08, 2023, 09:15:29 PMThe options are to tackle it and remain true to your amateur values.

Let it slide and drop the amateur status.

Or, continue as we've done for decades - Let it slide and tell lies to everyone that you are an amateur association.

The player thing is coming down the tracks. I know people say it's already here with certain benefits offered or the money in America but it's really coming down the line.
Some day soon a David Clifford type player is going to be offered 6 figures to play for (say) Limerick for a year. He'd be mental not to.
Thats the day the games gone. Although maybe it already is given the Shane Walsh thing

From the Bunker

Paying players won't happen. We don't have the population to support more than 4 teams.

It would make a whole re-vamp of player loyalty to Club/County ... Clubs would lose players.

Players would be owned by the County Board and under contract.

Match entry fees would go up significantly.

Big/Wealthier Counties would pay their players more and could afford bigger squads.

Players in the same mould as Shane Walsh would follow the money.

Professionalism would mean more (inter-county) games would be played to bring up gate receipts to cover costs, to satisfy TV deals and to give sponsors more exposure.


Armagh18

Maybe players are getting a few £ under the table as well in some cases?

Milltown Row2

Quote from: Armagh18 on December 08, 2023, 10:05:12 PMMaybe players are getting a few £ under the table as well in some cases?

I remember players getting decent jobs back in the day..
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intheknowhow

Quote from: trailer on December 08, 2023, 03:04:38 PM
Quote from: intheknowhow on December 08, 2023, 12:20:01 PM
Quote from: trailer on December 08, 2023, 10:54:06 AMSurprised this hasn't been raised. Maybe I missed it on another thread apologies if I have. I see Colm Parkinson tweeting or x'ing about the cost of Colm O'Rouke at Meath and then Mickey Harte at Louth. Neither county appeared to make any attempt to hide what managers are getting paid.

Harte and team almost €140k
O'Rouke and team just over €76k

Years ago they said of under the table payments that they couldn't even find the table. Well looks like they have found it now.

The volunteer and community ethos well out the window. Would Louth not have benefitted more from investing that €140k into youth football? Instead Harte is away up the road in smoke with it.


You expect it for free?

You expect the players to do it for free?

They are paid the expenses rate.

You want a manager not to care and rock up 10 mins before training ? Tell them to run laps?

Eire90

Could a gaa franchise league be succesful say beetween 8 and 10 teams

Milltown Row2

None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

SaffronSports

Quote from: Eire90 on December 08, 2023, 10:53:19 PMCould a gaa franchise league be succesful say beetween 8 and 10 teams

You'd end up with half of them in Dublin.

You'd kill the game in so many rural communities too. A lot of clubs are struggling to get numbers as it is without every time you produce a good player, a big club or franchise take them off your hands. Why would you even try at that point?

thewobbler

Quote from: Eire90 on December 08, 2023, 10:53:19 PMCould a gaa franchise league be succesful say beetween 8 and 10 teams

If spectator levels at the Railway Cup, Sigerson Cup and Combined Rules have taught us anything, it's that people don't go Gaelic Games to watch players. They go watch teams they're emotionally attached to.

marty34

Quote from: thewobbler on December 09, 2023, 08:18:47 AM
Quote from: Eire90 on December 08, 2023, 10:53:19 PMCould a gaa franchise league be succesful say beetween 8 and 10 teams

If spectator levels at the Railway Cup, Sigerson Cup and Combined Rules have taught us anything, it's that people don't go Gaelic Games to watch players. They go watch teams they're emotionally attached to.

I still think the Railway Cup was a great competition. Just couldn't get the right calendar slot for it.

A great opportunity for young fans to see the best players, in both codes, of the day.

Love to see it back again and moved about different towns every year.  Not feasible nowadays unfortunately.

thewobbler

Quote from: marty34 on December 09, 2023, 08:29:16 AM
Quote from: thewobbler on December 09, 2023, 08:18:47 AM
Quote from: Eire90 on December 08, 2023, 10:53:19 PMCould a gaa franchise league be succesful say beetween 8 and 10 teams

If spectator levels at the Railway Cup, Sigerson Cup and Combined Rules have taught us anything, it's that people don't go Gaelic Games to watch players. They go watch teams they're emotionally attached to.

I still think the Railway Cup was a great competition. Just couldn't get the right calendar slot for it.

A great opportunity for young fans to see the best players, in both codes, of the day.

Love to see it back again and moved about different towns every year.  Not feasible nowadays unfortunately.

Everyone recognises that the Sigerson is a great competition. It's top-class competitive football. Only the AI SFC would outrank it in that regard.

But you still could fit the attendances at most matches into an Ulsterbus.

marty34

Quote from: thewobbler on December 09, 2023, 08:42:11 AM
Quote from: marty34 on December 09, 2023, 08:29:16 AM
Quote from: thewobbler on December 09, 2023, 08:18:47 AM
Quote from: Eire90 on December 08, 2023, 10:53:19 PMCould a gaa franchise league be succesful say beetween 8 and 10 teams

If spectator levels at the Railway Cup, Sigerson Cup and Combined Rules have taught us anything, it's that people don't go Gaelic Games to watch players. They go watch teams they're emotionally attached to.

I still think the Railway Cup was a great competition. Just couldn't get the right calendar slot for it.

A great opportunity for young fans to see the best players, in both codes, of the day.

Love to see it back again and moved about different towns every year.  Not feasible nowadays unfortunately.

Everyone recognises that the Sigerson is a great competition. It's top-class competitive football. Only the AI SFC would outrank it in that regard.

But you still could fit the attendances at most matches into an Ulsterbus.


Fair enough but I wouldn't rate the Sigerson thst highly. In reality it's an U21 competition for people at uni.

I suppose the growth of the club scene has taken over now with the three levels: junior, intermediate and senior which caters for everyone.