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Title: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Ball Hopper on November 16, 2017, 05:14:36 AM
POT 1:  Russia, Germany, Brazil, Portugal, Argentina, Belgium, Poland, France.

POT 2:  Spain, Peru, Switzerland, England, Colombia, Mexico, Uruguay, Croatia.

POT 3:  Denmark, Iceland, Costa Rica, Sweden, Tunisia, Egypt, Senegal, Iran.

POT 4: Serbia, Nigeria, Australia, Japan, Morocco, Panama, South Korea, Saudi Arabia.

No teams from the same confederation, with the exception of UEFA, which could have up to two teams in the same group, will be drawn into the same group.

The Final Draw will take place on Friday 1 December at Moscow’s State Kremlin Palace.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: rrhf on November 16, 2017, 06:28:36 AM
Yawn
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 16, 2017, 09:34:37 AM
Will this thread get past 5 pages?
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Esmarelda on November 16, 2017, 09:38:54 AM
I reckon if everyone that isn't interested takes the time to come in and tell us so, we'll get well above five pages.

I'm looking forward to it already. Belgium should be good craic with Martinez in charge.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Hardy on November 16, 2017, 09:44:40 AM
The Final Draw will take place on Friday 1 December at Moscow’s State Kremlin Palace.

 - and will be the most interesting part of the whole thing. Except maybe watching whether the Russians bother to rein in their hooligans (https://www.google.ie/search?biw=1600&bih=779&tbm=isch&sa=1&ei=El0NWt7iDKSEgAairoDgBg&q=russian+hooligans&oq=russian+hooligans&gs_l=psy-ab.12..0j0i67k1j0l2j0i67k1j0j0i7i30k1l2j0i5i30k1j0i30k1.3937.3937.0.6844.1.1.0.0.0.0.92.92.1.1.0....0...1.1.64.psy-ab..0.1.91....0.XKyAEoWH1F4) or just decide to let them at it (http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/international/russia-fan-violence-russian-official-tells-hooligans-well-done-lads-keep-it-up-after-condoning-euro-a7079861.html) on the visiting fans.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: bennydorano on November 16, 2017, 10:11:10 AM
Few potentially interesting ties - Saudi Arabia v Iran & the old Favourite Croatia v Serbia. The Spirit of Vukovar SC.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Dire Ear on November 16, 2017, 11:36:03 AM
The Final Draw will take place on Friday 1 December at Moscow’s State Kremlin Palace.

 - and will be the most interesting part of the whole thing. Except maybe watching whether the Russians bother to rein in their hooligans (https://www.google.ie/search?biw=1600&bih=779&tbm=isch&sa=1&ei=El0NWt7iDKSEgAairoDgBg&q=russian+hooligans&oq=russian+hooligans&gs_l=psy-ab.12..0j0i67k1j0l2j0i67k1j0j0i7i30k1l2j0i5i30k1j0i30k1.3937.3937.0.6844.1.1.0.0.0.0.92.92.1.1.0....0...1.1.64.psy-ab..0.1.91....0.XKyAEoWH1F4) or just decide to let them at it (http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/international/russia-fan-violence-russian-official-tells-hooligans-well-done-lads-keep-it-up-after-condoning-euro-a7079861.html) on the visiting fans.
Russia v Engerland would be a thing of beauty !!!!!
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: ned on November 16, 2017, 11:39:08 AM
Few potentially interesting ties - Saudi Arabia v Iran & the old Favourite Croatia v Serbia. The Spirit of Vukovar SC.

Saudi Arabia And Iran can only meet if they qualify for knockout stages.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: AQMP on November 16, 2017, 12:00:30 PM
Brazil, England, Egypt, Serbia would be a tasty group.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: bennydorano on November 16, 2017, 12:52:19 PM
Few potentially interesting ties - Saudi Arabia v Iran & the old Favourite Croatia v Serbia. The Spirit of Vukovar SC.

Saudi Arabia And Iran can only meet if they qualify for knockout stages.
Why's that?

Edit - Scrub that, presumably in same qualifying group.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: ned on November 16, 2017, 01:37:46 PM
Few potentially interesting ties - Saudi Arabia v Iran & the old Favourite Croatia v Serbia. The Spirit of Vukovar SC.

Saudi Arabia And Iran can only meet if they qualify for knockout stages.
Why's that?

Edit - Scrub that, presumably in same qualifying group.

It's in the original post. Teams from same confederation cant be in same group, except uefa.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Boycey on December 01, 2017, 04:05:13 PM
Watched the draw there, fcuk that’s an awful lot of boring group games and they are going to expand it the next time  :o

England drew Belgium, Tunisia and Panama, they couldn’t mess that up could they  :D
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on December 01, 2017, 04:17:31 PM
Draw made there.  Even though Ireland aren't there, I always love the World Cup.

Group A - Russia, Uruguay, Egypt, Saudi Arabia

Group B - Portugal, Spain, Morocco, Iran

Group C - France, Australia, Peru, Denmark

Group D - Argentina, Iceland, Nigeria, Croatia

Group E - Brazil, Switzerland, Costa Rica, Serbia

Group F - Germany, Mexico, Sweden, South Korea

Group G - Belgium, Panama, Tunisia, England

Group H - Poland, Senegal, Colombia, Japan
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Farrandeelin on December 01, 2017, 04:29:56 PM
Portugal and Spain is the stand out group fixture.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: laoislad on December 01, 2017, 04:44:58 PM
Portugal and Spain is the stand out group fixture.
Probably is on paper but I suppose it depends on when the game is. If it's the last game and they have both already qualified it could be a dead rubber .England v Belgium also falls into that bracket. A few others have the potential to be good like Argentina V Croatia.
Like every World Cup the real action won't start until the 2nd round.
Have the fixtures been finalised yet?
I actually forgot the draw was on until AZ posted.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Capt Pat on December 01, 2017, 04:49:59 PM
Watched the draw there, fcuk that’s an awful lot of boring group games and they are going to expand it the next time  :o

England drew Belgium, Tunisia and Panama, they couldn’t mess that up could they  :D

The tournament will miss Holland and Italy. The Dutch would have made some exciting football games in the group stage.

England got a handy group. Belgium will be tough but Panama and Tunisia will be big underdogs in this group.



Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Captain Obvious on December 01, 2017, 05:22:07 PM
Draw made there.  Even though Ireland aren't there, I always love the World Cup.

Group A - Russia, Uruguay, Egypt, Saudi Arabia

Group B - Portugal, Spain, Morocco, Iran

Group C - France, Australia, Peru, Denmark

Group D - Argentina, Iceland, Nigeria, Croatia

Group E - Brazil, Switzerland, Costa Rica, Serbia

Group F - Germany, Mexico, Sweden, South Korea

Group G - Belgium, Panama, Tunisia, England

Group H - Poland, Senegal, Colombia, Japan
Republic of Ireland group winners Serbia will struggle to get out of that group while the play off winners Denmark should reach the next round.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 01, 2017, 07:01:37 PM
 Nobody surprised at Russia’s draw?
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Boycey on December 01, 2017, 07:03:25 PM
Nobody surprised at Russia’s draw?

In what way?
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 01, 2017, 07:08:08 PM
Nobody surprised at Russia’s draw?

In what way?

Handy draw, no?
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: From the Bunker on December 01, 2017, 07:31:15 PM
Nobody surprised at Russia’s draw?

In what way?

Handy draw, no?

Always important for the success of the Tournament that  the Host country to stay as long as possible in it.  FIFA  was stink enough to give Russia the Tournament, why should they stop there.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on December 01, 2017, 07:32:30 PM
It's not handy. Egypt are good as are uruguay. Hosts may not make it through i think.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: playwiththewind1st on December 01, 2017, 08:00:05 PM
Watched the draw there, fcuk that’s an awful lot of boring group games and they are going to expand it the next time  :o

England drew Belgium, Tunisia and Panama, they couldn’t mess that up could they  :D

Hopefully, they can. Early exit, listen to the endless blubbering.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: playwiththewind1st on December 01, 2017, 08:03:43 PM
Nobody surprised at Russia’s draw?

If they do not make it through......Putin will hold a few Polonium tea parties. That's gonna concentrate minds.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Syferus on December 01, 2017, 08:13:35 PM
Nobody surprised at Russia’s draw?

In what way?

Handy draw, no?

Uruguay are better than Argentina. Suarez and Cavani up front - literally two best two strikers in world football at the moment. If both bring their club form to Russia they could well make a long run into the knockout stages.

Eygpt with Salah will give top two plenty to think about. Hardly a particularly easy draw.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: An Watcher on December 01, 2017, 08:59:02 PM
Hosts always get a reasonably handy draw due to the fact that they are top seeds. 
One of the main reasons why England are hardly ever tested in qualifying campaigns
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Orchard park on December 01, 2017, 09:46:13 PM
Nobody surprised at Russia’s draw?

In what way?

Handy draw, no?

Uruguay are better than Argentina. Suarez and Cavani up front - literally two best two strikers in world football at the moment. If both bring their club form to Russia they could well make a long run into the knockout stages.

Eygpt with Salah will give top two plenty to think about. Hardly a particularly easy draw.


Suarez is in shocking form, 5 in last 18 games for Barcelona I think it is
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: From the Bunker on December 01, 2017, 10:37:42 PM
The Hand of God interfering with England at a World Cup again.


Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Syferus on December 01, 2017, 11:12:42 PM
Nobody surprised at Russia’s draw?

In what way?

Handy draw, no?

Uruguay are better than Argentina. Suarez and Cavani up front - literally two best two strikers in world football at the moment. If both bring their club form to Russia they could well make a long run into the knockout stages.

Eygpt with Salah will give top two plenty to think about. Hardly a particularly easy draw.


Suarez is in shocking form, 5 in last 18 games for Barcelona I think it is

And Barca are just running away with La Liga.

I checked his stats in La Liga and it’s ten games played, five goals and an assist. Many strikers wish for that to be their bad form.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 01, 2017, 11:30:50 PM
Nobody surprised at Russia’s draw?

In what way?

Handy draw, no?

Uruguay are better than Argentina. Suarez and Cavani up front - literally two best two strikers in world football at the moment. If both bring their club form to Russia they could well make a long run into the knockout stages.

Eygpt with Salah will give top two plenty to think about. Hardly a particularly easy draw.


Suarez is in shocking form, 5 in last 18 games for Barcelona I think it is

And Barca are just running away with La Liga.

I checked his stats in La Liga and it’s ten games played, five goals and an assist. Many strikers wish for that to be their bad form.

Stop relating club form to country form Ffs! Messi being prime example
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Syferus on December 01, 2017, 11:33:37 PM
Nobody surprised at Russia’s draw?

In what way?

Handy draw, no?

Uruguay are better than Argentina. Suarez and Cavani up front - literally two best two strikers in world football at the moment. If both bring their club form to Russia they could well make a long run into the knockout stages.

Eygpt with Salah will give top two plenty to think about. Hardly a particularly easy draw.


Suarez is in shocking form, 5 in last 18 games for Barcelona I think it is

And Barca are just running away with La Liga.

I checked his stats in La Liga and it’s ten games played, five goals and an assist. Many strikers wish for that to be their bad form.

Stop relating club form to country form Ffs! Messi being prime example

He almost won a WC with them on his back three years ago.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 01, 2017, 11:59:55 PM
He scored 4 goals ya ballon and they were bate!! Almost and did is like saying ROI almost qualified for the finals but didn’t, they were bate
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on December 02, 2017, 12:03:34 AM
They wouldn't even be in Russia if it weren't for him in the last game.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Syferus on December 02, 2017, 12:07:42 AM
He scored 4 goals ya ballon and they were bate!! Almost and did is like saying ROI almost qualified for the finals but didn’t, they were bate

Four goals in a WC by a midfielder - how wasn’t he dropped!?

You’re getting a wee bit ahead of yourself here, Aregetina got to the WC final - that’s nothing like saying we almost qualified.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 02, 2017, 01:10:00 PM
He scored 4 goals ya ballon and they were bate!! Almost and did is like saying ROI almost qualified for the finals but didn’t, they were bate

Four goals in a WC by a midfielder - how wasn’t he dropped!?

You’re getting a wee bit ahead of yourself here, Aregetina got to the WC final - that’s nothing like saying we almost qualified.

So you don’t think that Messi hasn't underperform at the World Cup finals ?
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Syferus on December 02, 2017, 04:57:12 PM
He scored 4 goals ya ballon and they were bate!! Almost and did is like saying ROI almost qualified for the finals but didn’t, they were bate

Four goals in a WC by a midfielder - how wasn’t he dropped!?

You’re getting a wee bit ahead of yourself here, Aregetina got to the WC final - that’s nothing like saying we almost qualified.

So you don’t think that Messi hasn't underperform at the World Cup finals ?

Not at the one where he dragged Argentina to the final, ffs. I don’t know what you're even arguing here.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 02, 2017, 10:46:43 PM
The Argentine press have been on his back for years about his form during finals, he retired because of it. Missed his spot kick in the last finals he played in South America, retired and came back.

My point is don’t relate club form to finals form he’s not really set it on fire (like he did for Barca)
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Cunny Funt on March 27, 2018, 10:23:57 PM
Spain 6 Argentina 1 in tonights challenge game.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on March 28, 2018, 08:47:02 AM
Currently - zero interest in WC
Early May - I see WC is starting next month must put a bet on
Late May- what no Italy, damn I will just back Germany
Early June - Dips in and out of Group games, hopes England goes well
Late June - Completely hooked, sick of BBC pundits hopes England goes out on penalties to     Germany preferably
July - In France for Final hopes France are in it as the buzz in the camp site will be mighty
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: AQMP on May 16, 2018, 02:29:21 PM
England final squad announced:

Goalkeepers:
Butland (Stoke), Pickford (Everton), Pope (Burnley)

Defenders:
Jones (Man Utd), Cahill (Chelsea), Walker (Man City), Trippier (Tottenham), Rose (Tottenham), Alexander-Arnold (Liverpool), Young (Man Utd), Stones (Man City), Maguire (Leicester)

Midfielders:
Dier (Tottenham), Henderson (Liverpool), Delph (Man City), Loftus-Cheek (Chelsea), Lingard (Man Utd), Alli (Tottenham)

Forwards:
Kane (Tottenham), Rashford (Man Utd), Vardy (Leicester), Sterling (Man City), Welbeck (Arsenal)

Edit:  Five players have been placed on standby - Tom Heaton (Burnley), James Tarkowski (Burnley), Lewis Cook - who?? (Bournemouth), Jake Livermore (WBA) and Adam Lallana (Liverpool).
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: magpie seanie on May 16, 2018, 02:38:49 PM
England final squad announced:

Goalkeepers:
Butland (Stoke), Pickford (Everton), Pope (Burnley)

Defenders:
Jones (Man Utd), Cahill (Chelsea), Walker (Man City), Trippier (Tottenham), Rose (Tottenham), Alexander-Arnold (Liverpool), Young (Man Utd), Stones (Man City), Maguire (Leicester)

Midfielders:
Dier (Tottenham), Henderson (Liverpool), Delph (Man City), Loftus-Cheek (Chelsea), Lingard (Man Utd), Alli (Tottenham)

Forwards:
Kane (Tottenham), Rashford (Man Utd), Vardy (Leicester), Sterling (Man City), Welbeck (Arsenal)


That's woeful. Especially midfield. Their centre back selection is poor. Smalling is as good as any of the others bar Cahill perhaps. Welbeck very lucky to make that squad.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: NAG1 on May 16, 2018, 02:46:30 PM
Would look from that squad selection that he would like to go five at the back.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Captain Obvious on May 16, 2018, 02:55:12 PM
England final squad announced:

Goalkeepers:
Butland (Stoke), Pickford (Everton), Pope (Burnley)

Defenders:
Jones (Man Utd), Cahill (Chelsea), Walker (Man City), Trippier (Tottenham), Rose (Tottenham), Alexander-Arnold (Liverpool), Young (Man Utd), Stones (Man City), Maguire (Leicester)

Midfielders:
Dier (Tottenham), Henderson (Liverpool), Delph (Man City), Loftus-Cheek (Chelsea), Lingard (Man Utd), Alli (Tottenham)

Forwards:
Kane (Tottenham), Rashford (Man Utd), Vardy (Leicester), Sterling (Man City), Welbeck (Arsenal)
The pretty much confirms the best players in the Premier league are Johnny foreigners.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: trailer on May 16, 2018, 02:59:26 PM
England final squad announced:

Goalkeepers:
Butland (Stoke), Pickford (Everton), Pope (Burnley)

Defenders:
Jones (Man Utd), Cahill (Chelsea), Walker (Man City), Trippier (Tottenham), Rose (Tottenham), Alexander-Arnold (Liverpool), Young (Man Utd), Stones (Man City), Maguire (Leicester)

Midfielders:
Dier (Tottenham), Henderson (Liverpool), Delph (Man City), Loftus-Cheek (Chelsea), Lingard (Man Utd), Alli (Tottenham)

Forwards:
Kane (Tottenham), Rashford (Man Utd), Vardy (Leicester), Sterling (Man City), Welbeck (Arsenal)

England's worse squad in my living memory. I expect them to do well. Last 8, if not last 4. Pressure will be off them to a certain extent and they may generate some team spirit that they've been lacking. World Cups are won with workman-like, team efforts. It might just suit them. (Probably lose all 3 games and be first team home now I've said that)
A European winner is almost Guaranteed. France or Germany for me.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Insane Bolt on May 16, 2018, 03:05:11 PM
England final squad announced:

Goalkeepers:
Butland (Stoke), Pickford (Everton), Pope (Burnley)

Defenders:
Jones (Man Utd), Cahill (Chelsea), Walker (Man City), Trippier (Tottenham), Rose (Tottenham), Alexander-Arnold (Liverpool), Young (Man Utd), Stones (Man City), Maguire (Leicester)

Midfielders:
Dier (Tottenham), Henderson (Liverpool), Delph (Man City), Loftus-Cheek (Chelsea), Lingard (Man Utd), Alli (Tottenham)

Forwards:
Kane (Tottenham), Rashford (Man Utd), Vardy (Leicester), Sterling (Man City), Welbeck (Arsenal)

If all the above were on the transfer list, would there be much interest from the likes of Real Madrid or Barcelona?  Kane probably.....
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Boycey on May 16, 2018, 03:05:40 PM
He’ll play 3 at the back

                     Butland
       Walker-Maguire/Jones-Stones
Trippier                                 Young  :o
        Dier - Henderson - Ali
                 Sterling
                   Kane

On paper it looks a terrible squad but possibly they’ll do better than much more heralded squads (could hardly do worse I suppose)
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: NAG1 on May 16, 2018, 03:09:55 PM
Is that not 5 at the back Boycey  :o
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: trailer on May 16, 2018, 03:16:37 PM
England final squad announced:

Goalkeepers:
Butland (Stoke), Pickford (Everton), Pope (Burnley)

Defenders:
Jones (Man Utd), Cahill (Chelsea), Walker (Man City), Trippier (Tottenham), Rose (Tottenham), Alexander-Arnold (Liverpool), Young (Man Utd), Stones (Man City), Maguire (Leicester)

Midfielders:
Dier (Tottenham), Henderson (Liverpool), Delph (Man City), Loftus-Cheek (Chelsea), Lingard (Man Utd), Alli (Tottenham)

Forwards:
Kane (Tottenham), Rashford (Man Utd), Vardy (Leicester), Sterling (Man City), Welbeck (Arsenal)

If all the above were on the transfer list, would there be much interest from the likes of Real Madrid or Barcelona?  Kane probably.....

You could say that about most international squads tbf.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Boycey on May 16, 2018, 03:19:42 PM
Is that not 5 at the back Boycey  :o

I'd have called it 5 at the back alright but the current 'in' thing is to call it 3 at the back https://www.theguardian.com/football/2017/oct/09/gareth-southgate-back-three-england-world-cup
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: AQMP on May 16, 2018, 03:40:44 PM
He’ll play 3 at the back

                     Butland
       Walker-Maguire/Jones-Stones
Trippier                                 Young  :o
        Dier - Henderson - Ali
                 Sterling
                   Kane

On paper it looks a terrible squad but possibly they’ll do better than much more heralded squads (could hardly do worse I suppose)

Yep...on paper it doesn't look like a squad that will have other teams quaking in their boots, but they've a decent draw in the group and last 16 stage (will play the winner/runner up of the Poland/Senegal/Colombia/Japan group if they get through).  I detect the English media and supporters have less expectancy than other years so they may go without pressure.  Can't see them being anywhere near winning it though.

In other news Mario Gotze scorer of the winning goal in the 2014 final not selected for the German provisional squad of 28.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Gmac on May 16, 2018, 03:48:29 PM
Young ? Ashley?
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: oakleaflad on May 16, 2018, 03:49:24 PM
He’ll play 3 at the back

                     Butland
       Walker-Maguire/Jones-Stones
Trippier                                 Young  :o
        Dier - Henderson - Ali
                 Sterling
                   Kane

On paper it looks a terrible squad but possibly they’ll do better than much more heralded squads (could hardly do worse I suppose)

Yep...on paper it doesn't look like a squad that will have other teams quaking in their boots, but they've a decent draw in the group and last 16 stage (will play the winner/runner up of the Poland/Senegal/Colombia/Japan group if they get through). I detect the English media and supporters have less expectancy than other years so they may go without pressure.  Can't see them being anywhere near winning it though.

In other news Mario Gotze scorer of the winning goal in the 2014 final not selected for the German provisional squad of 28.
Until they make use of their relatively easy route to the quarter finals where the media will then explode with expectancy before the inevitable capitulation.

Gotze not making the Germany squad isn't surprising given his form since the diagnosis of his muscular disorder. It's a shame as he is very talented.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: seafoid on May 16, 2018, 04:00:13 PM
He’ll play 3 at the back

                     Butland
       Walker-Maguire/Jones-Stones
Trippier                                 Young  :o
        Dier - Henderson - Ali
                 Sterling
                   Kane

On paper it looks a terrible squad but possibly they’ll do better than much more heralded squads (could hardly do worse I suppose)

Yep...on paper it doesn't look like a squad that will have other teams quaking in their boots, but they've a decent draw in the group and last 16 stage (will play the winner/runner up of the Poland/Senegal/Colombia/Japan group if they get through).  I detect the English media and supporters have less expectancy than other years so they may go without pressure.  Can't see them being anywhere near winning it though.

In other news Mario Gotze scorer of the winning goal in the 2014 final not selected for the German provisional squad of 28.
Big Sam got £9m for 6 months of work. The EPL is about money, not the game in England.
Until this changes England won't go anywhere in tournaments.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Taylor on May 16, 2018, 04:05:02 PM
He’ll play 3 at the back

                     Butland
       Walker-Maguire/Jones-Stones
Trippier                                 Young  :o
        Dier - Henderson - Ali
                 Sterling
                   Kane

On paper it looks a terrible squad but possibly they’ll do better than much more heralded squads (could hardly do worse I suppose)

Yep...on paper it doesn't look like a squad that will have other teams quaking in their boots, but they've a decent draw in the group and last 16 stage (will play the winner/runner up of the Poland/Senegal/Colombia/Japan group if they get through).  I detect the English media and supporters have less expectancy than other years so they may go without pressure.  Can't see them being anywhere near winning it though.

In other news Mario Gotze scorer of the winning goal in the 2014 final not selected for the German provisional squad of 28.
Big Sam got £9m for 6 months of work. The EPL is about money, not the game in England.
Until this changes England won't go anywhere in tournaments.
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Hasnt done much harm to the Spanish national team though?
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: magpie seanie on May 16, 2018, 04:07:04 PM
He’ll play 3 at the back

                     Butland
       Walker-Maguire/Jones-Stones
Trippier                                 Young  :o
        Dier - Henderson - Ali
                 Sterling
                   Kane

On paper it looks a terrible squad but possibly they’ll do better than much more heralded squads (could hardly do worse I suppose)


That team looks shaky to me. Surely Walker is a full back? They're very short of CB's to play 5 at the back.....there's only 4 in the squad if I'm right.

Also if anything happens Dier and/or Henderson what's the plan then? Surely Milner should be in the squad at the expense of one of the full backs (TAA probably)? Think they're actually alright the other end. On top of Alli, Kane and Sterling they have Rashford and Lingard. They need to try and get those lads on the pitch. 4-2-3-1 possibly their best chance of using resources properly.

                               Butland

Trippier/Walker     Cahill      Jones       Rose/Young 

                      Dier              Henderson

   Sterling                   Alli/Lingard           Rashford

                                Kane

I've not seen enough of Maguire and I don't rate Stones at all.

Agree with the comments that perversely the worst looking England squad on paper in my memory might actually do well.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: blewuporstuffed on May 16, 2018, 04:12:51 PM
Milner is retired from international football.
He is probably the in form English midfielder at the minute too.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on May 16, 2018, 04:17:44 PM
Panama in the work draw  >:(
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: AQMP on May 16, 2018, 04:18:06 PM
That England squad has scored 55 international goals in total.  Cristiano Ronaldo has 81, Messi has 61, Neymar has 53 and Lewandowski has 52.  It looks like it'll be the only squad with no players from outside its own league.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: gawa316 on May 16, 2018, 05:29:35 PM
He’ll play 3 at the back

                     Butland
       Walker-Maguire/Jones-Stones
Trippier                                 Young  :o
        Dier - Henderson - Ali
                 Sterling
                   Kane

On paper it looks a terrible squad but possibly they’ll do better than much more heralded squads (could hardly do worse I suppose)


That team looks shaky to me. Surely Walker is a full back? They're very short of CB's to play 5 at the back.....there's only 4 in the squad if I'm right.

Also if anything happens Dier and/or Henderson what's the plan then? Surely Milner should be in the squad at the expense of one of the full backs (TAA probably)? Think they're actually alright the other end. On top of Alli, Kane and Sterling they have Rashford and Lingard. They need to try and get those lads on the pitch. 4-2-3-1 possibly their best chance of using resources properly.

                               Butland

Trippier/Walker     Cahill      Jones       Rose/Young 

                      Dier              Henderson

   Sterling                   Alli/Lingard           Rashford

                                Kane

I've not seen enough of Maguire and I don't rate Stones at all.

Agree with the comments that perversely the worst looking England squad on paper in my memory might actually do well.

Dier can also play center half.

Very light on center mids. In-spite of the injury record I thought Lallana would've been in there. He brings something different.

Can't say I watched a lot of England but haven't they being experimenting Walker and Gomez at the right side of a 3?
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: 02 on May 16, 2018, 05:35:18 PM
He’ll play 3 at the back

                     Butland
       Walker-Maguire/Jones-Stones
Trippier                                 Young  :o
        Dier - Henderson - Ali
                 Sterling
                   Kane

On paper it looks a terrible squad but possibly they’ll do better than much more heralded squads (could hardly do worse I suppose)


That team looks shaky to me. Surely Walker is a full back? They're very short of CB's to play 5 at the back.....there's only 4 in the squad if I'm right.

Also if anything happens Dier and/or Henderson what's the plan then? Surely Milner should be in the squad at the expense of one of the full backs (TAA probably)? Think they're actually alright the other end. On top of Alli, Kane and Sterling they have Rashford and Lingard. They need to try and get those lads on the pitch. 4-2-3-1 possibly their best chance of using resources properly.

                               Butland

Trippier/Walker     Cahill      Jones       Rose/Young 

                      Dier              Henderson

   Sterling                   Alli/Lingard           Rashford

                                Kane

I've not seen enough of Maguire and I don't rate Stones at all.

Agree with the comments that perversely the worst looking England squad on paper in my memory might actually do well.

Dier can also play center half.

Very light on center mids. In-spite of the injury record I thought Lallana would've been in there. He brings something different.

Can't say I watched a lot of England but haven't they being experimenting Walker and Gomez at the right side of a 3?

No much better to select a striker who has scored 5 league goals all season, the other teams must be trembling with fear...
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: BennyHarp on May 16, 2018, 05:37:38 PM
             Pickford
     Walker Stones Maguire
Trippier Henderson Dier Rose
                   Alli
            Sterling Kane

I wouldn’t be surprised to see Loftus Cheek start in the first game instead of Alli..
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: thewobbler on May 16, 2018, 05:43:00 PM
Can’t see him starting Walker at centre back. That was an experiment.

Maguire and Stones with Jones or Cahill. Walker will be RWB.

Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: BennyCake on May 16, 2018, 07:18:49 PM
Maguire? Trippier? Pickford? Who are these boys?

Engerland are so f**ked  ;D
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: SHEEDY on May 16, 2018, 07:30:52 PM
Maguire? Trippier? Pickford? Who are these boys?

Engerland are so f**ked  ;D
the players you picked are far from the worst in that squad. welbeck, pope and loftus cheek?
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on May 16, 2018, 07:37:06 PM
Pope is ok. Trippier is decent and maguire not too bad. I don't understand why wellbeck is going.

I was hoping hart would go - he's rubbish :D

Still possibly the poorest England squad i think i have seen at a world cup.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: 02 on May 16, 2018, 07:45:11 PM
Maguire? Trippier? Pickford? Who are these boys?

Engerland are so f**ked  ;D
the players you picked are far from the worst in that squad. welbeck, pope and loftus cheek?

Sounds like a smart-ass mayo man!
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Insane Bolt on May 16, 2018, 08:20:58 PM
Milk would turn quicker than Maguire😜
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: michaelg on May 16, 2018, 08:47:31 PM
Milk would turn quicker than Maguire😜
Looks a big old unit Maguire
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: BennyCake on May 16, 2018, 09:02:55 PM
Maguire? Trippier? Pickford? Who are these boys?

Engerland are so f**ked  ;D
the players you picked are far from the worst in that squad. welbeck, pope and loftus cheek?

Engerland are sooooooo f**ked  ;D
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Cunny Funt on May 16, 2018, 09:08:34 PM
Biggest problem i see for England is their manager. How can they seriously do well in the World cup with a manager as average as Gareth Southgate?
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Minder on May 16, 2018, 09:08:57 PM
Maguire? Trippier? Pickford? Who are these boys?

Engerland are so f**ked  ;D
the players you picked are far from the worst in that squad. welbeck, pope and loftus cheek?

Engerland are sooooooo f**ked  ;D

Might be too soon but Loftus Cheek is going to be a cracking player
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: DownFanatic on May 18, 2018, 10:59:35 AM
France and Germany the two best bets?
Portugal seem to have a strong squad and the Belgium side has plenty of talent.
What sort of shape are Brazil and Argentina in?
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on May 18, 2018, 11:06:07 AM
Brazil in good form, Argentina a mess and Messi seemingly picking the squad according to Tim Vickery on OTB.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Boycey on May 18, 2018, 12:00:44 PM
Brazil overall favourites but traditionally the South American teams struggle in Europe with only 2 beaten finalists to their names since Brazil won in Sweden in 1958. If you were offering me a free bet I'd take France with maybe Croatia as a live outsider.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: johnnycool on May 18, 2018, 12:07:31 PM
Brazil overall favourites but traditionally the South American teams struggle in Europe with only 2 beaten finalists to their names since Brazil won in Sweden in 1958. If you were offering me a free bet I'd take France with maybe Croatia as a live outsider.

In fighting going to prevent Belgium making shapes again??
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on May 18, 2018, 12:14:27 PM
Brazil overall favourites but traditionally the South American teams struggle in Europe with only 2 beaten finalists to their names since Brazil won in Sweden in 1958. If you were offering me a free bet I'd take France with maybe Croatia as a live outsider.

In fighting going to prevent Belgium making shapes again??

Stephen Wallace rumoured to be taking over them.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Boycey on May 18, 2018, 12:14:46 PM
Belgium always strike me as a talented bunch of individuals but not a great team if that makes sense? But if it does click for them they could go close.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on May 18, 2018, 12:15:37 PM
Belgium always strike me as a talented bunch of individuals but not a great team if that makes sense? But if it does click for them they could go close.

Like the Dutch used to be.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Taylor on May 18, 2018, 12:17:14 PM
Belgium always strike me as a talented bunch of individuals but not a great team if that makes sense? But if it does click for them they could go close.

Yeah, always good players but underperform.
Martinez no bad manager but getting them to gel cant be easy.

The players not in the France squad is mental and would push most teams close
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: seafoid on May 24, 2018, 10:18:07 AM
52 years of hurt but they come out with a decent song every so often

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KaBdajHOsSM
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Orior on May 24, 2018, 10:32:25 AM
Time to roll out this again, and at least I replaced Yugoslavia with Croatia but I'm so lazy I haven't even checked if they qualified.


Soccer World Cup Squads Announced
=======================

The following squads have been announced for the 2018 World Cup

BRAZILIAN SQUAD for World Cup
Goalkeeper: Pincochio
Sweeper:  Libero
Defenders: Vimto, Memento, Borneo, Tango
Midfield: Cheerio, Subbuteo, Scenario, Fellatio
Forwards: Portfolio
Substitutes: Placebo, Porno, Polio, Banjo, Brasso, Stereo (L), Stereo (R), Hydrochlorofluoro, Aristotle


CROATIAN SQUAD
Goalkeeper: Itch
Defenders:  Annoyingitch, Hardtoreachitch, Scratchanditch
Midfielders: Hic, Sic, Spic, Pric
Wingers: Digaditch, Fallinaditch
Forwards: Horseraditch
Substitutes: Mowapitch, Letsgetrich, Shagabitch


RUSSIAN  SQUAD
Goalkeeper:  Whodyanicabolicov
Wing Backs: Ticlycov, Chesticov, Nasticov
Defenders:  Slalomsky, Downhilsky
Midfielders:  Risky, Swedishskev, Mastershev
Forwards:  Fuckov, Taykitov
Substitutes: Rubitov, Gechakitov, Sodov, Pastryshev, Najinsky, Desert Orchid


ROMANIAN SQUAD
Goalkeeper: Chatanoogaciouciou
Wing Backs: Atishiou, Blessiou, Thankyou
Defenders: Busqueue, Snookercu
Midfielders: Pennyciou, Twoapennyciou, Fourapennyciou
Forwards: I'llgetciou, Youandwhosarmi
Substitutes: U, NonU, ManU, Stuffyiou, Lee Kwan Yu


DANISH  SQUAD
Goalkeeper: Toomanigoalssen
Defenders: Tryandstopussen, Crapdefenssen, Haveagossen
Midfielders: Firstsson, Secondsson, Thirdsson
Wingers: Legshurtssen, Notroubleseeingussen
Forwards: Wherestheballssen, Getthebeerssen
Substitutes: Howmanygoalsisthatssen, Finallygaveupcountinssen, Hurryupandblowthewhistlessen, YourelatedtoAlexFergusonssen


ITIALIAN SQUAD
Goalkeeper: Baloni
Defenders: Potbelli, Beerbelli, Giveitsumwelli
Midfielders: Wotsontelli, Toonsgotkenni, Onetoomani
Wingers: Legslikejelli, Havabenni
Forwards: Wobblijelli, Spendapenni
Substitutes: Cantthinkofani, Buggermi


MEXICAN SQUAD
Goalkeeper: San Francisco
Defenders: Costa Brava, Hopelez, Juan Andonly, Manual Gearbox
Midfielders: Don Criformi-Argentina, Bodegas, Luis Canon, Sombrero
Forwards: Chihuahua, Jose
Substitutes: Jesus Maria Don Key, Burrito, Speedy Gonzalez, Tequila, Caramba


DUTCH SQUAD
Goalkeeper: Kenning Van Hire
Defenders: Van Diemansland, Van der Valk, Van Gard, Van Erealdizeez
Midfielders: Ad Van Tagus, Van Sprokendown, Aye van Hoe
Forwards: Van Coova, Hertz Van Rental, Transit Van Dors
Substitutes: Van Iller, Van Ishincreme, Van Morrison
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Farrandeelin on May 24, 2018, 10:40:35 AM
Who is everyone 'supporting' this time? My two (other) favourites, the Netherlands and Italy haven't made it. Might pick Portugal because of the flag.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Insane Bolt on May 24, 2018, 10:40:55 AM
Some great names over the years.....always remember Lopez Ufarte😎
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: seafoid on May 24, 2018, 10:45:26 AM
Time to roll out this again, and at least I replaced Yugoslavia with Croatia but I'm so lazy I haven't even checked if they qualified.


Soccer World Cup Squads Announced
=======================

The following squads have been announced for the 2018 World Cup

BRAZILIAN SQUAD for World Cup
Goalkeeper: Pincochio
Sweeper:  Libero
Defenders: Vimto, Memento, Borneo, Tango
Midfield: Cheerio, Subbuteo, Scenario, Fellatio
Forwards: Portfolio
Substitutes: Placebo, Porno, Polio, Banjo, Brasso, Stereo (L), Stereo (R), Hydrochlorofluoro, Aristotle


CROATIAN SQUAD
Goalkeeper: Itch
Defenders:  Annoyingitch, Hardtoreachitch, Scratchanditch
Midfielders: Hic, Sic, Spic, Pric
Wingers: Digaditch, Fallinaditch
Forwards: Horseraditch
Substitutes: Mowapitch, Letsgetrich, Shagabitch


RUSSIAN  SQUAD
Goalkeeper:  Whodyanicabolicov
Wing Backs: Ticlycov, Chesticov, Nasticov
Defenders:  Slalomsky, Downhilsky
Midfielders:  Risky, Swedishskev, Mastershev
Forwards:  Fuckov, Taykitov
Substitutes: Rubitov, Gechakitov, Sodov, Pastryshev, Najinsky, Desert Orchid


ROMANIAN SQUAD
Goalkeeper: Chatanoogaciouciou
Wing Backs: Atishiou, Blessiou, Thankyou
Defenders: Busqueue, Snookercu
Midfielders: Pennyciou, Twoapennyciou, Fourapennyciou
Forwards: I'llgetciou, Youandwhosarmi
Substitutes: U, NonU, ManU, Stuffyiou, Lee Kwan Yu


DANISH  SQUAD
Goalkeeper: Toomanigoalssen
Defenders: Tryandstopussen, Crapdefenssen, Haveagossen
Midfielders: Firstsson, Secondsson, Thirdsson
Wingers: Legshurtssen, Notroubleseeingussen
Forwards: Wherestheballssen, Getthebeerssen
Substitutes: Howmanygoalsisthatssen, Finallygaveupcountinssen, Hurryupandblowthewhistlessen, YourelatedtoAlexFergusonssen


ITIALIAN SQUAD
Goalkeeper: Baloni
Defenders: Potbelli, Beerbelli, Giveitsumwelli
Midfielders: Wotsontelli, Toonsgotkenni, Onetoomani
Wingers: Legslikejelli, Havabenni
Forwards: Wobblijelli, Spendapenni
Substitutes: Cantthinkofani, Buggermi


MEXICAN SQUAD
Goalkeeper: San Francisco
Defenders: Costa Brava, Hopelez, Juan Andonly, Manual Gearbox
Midfielders: Don Criformi-Argentina, Bodegas, Luis Canon, Sombrero
Forwards: Chihuahua, Jose
Substitutes: Jesus Maria Don Key, Burrito, Speedy Gonzalez, Tequila, Caramba


DUTCH SQUAD
Goalkeeper: Kenning Van Hire
Defenders: Van Diemansland, Van der Valk, Van Gard, Van Erealdizeez
Midfielders: Ad Van Tagus, Van Sprokendown, Aye van Hoe
Forwards: Van Coova, Hertz Van Rental, Transit Van Dors
Substitutes: Van Iller, Van Ishincreme, Van Morrison
I love the addition of Desert Orchid to the Russian subs
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Dire Ear on May 24, 2018, 11:10:33 AM
Who is everyone 'supporting' this time? My two (other) favourites, the Netherlands and Italy haven't made it. Might pick Portugal because of the flag.
Egypt
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: trailer on May 24, 2018, 12:07:19 PM
I'm always an Italian supporter as I am a small bit Italian. Probably will plump with Germany this time. The wee lad is pinning his hopes on Spain. Looking forward to it.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Avondhu star on May 24, 2018, 12:11:13 PM
Time to roll out this again, and at least I replaced Yugoslavia with Croatia but I'm so lazy I haven't even checked if they qualified.


Soccer World Cup Squads Announced
=======================

The following squads have been announced for the 2018 World Cup

BRAZILIAN SQUAD for World Cup
Goalkeeper: Pincochio
Sweeper:  Libero
Defenders: Vimto, Memento, Borneo, Tango
Midfield: Cheerio, Subbuteo, Scenario, Fellatio
Forwards: Portfolio
Substitutes: Placebo, Porno, Polio, Banjo, Brasso, Stereo (L), Stereo (R), Hydrochlorofluoro, Aristotle


CROATIAN SQUAD
Goalkeeper: Itch
Defenders:  Annoyingitch, Hardtoreachitch, Scratchanditch
Midfielders: Hic, Sic, Spic, Pric
Wingers: Digaditch, Fallinaditch
Forwards: Horseraditch
Substitutes: Mowapitch, Letsgetrich, Shagabitch


RUSSIAN  SQUAD
Goalkeeper:  Whodyanicabolicov
Wing Backs: Ticlycov, Chesticov, Nasticov
Defenders:  Slalomsky, Downhilsky
Midfielders:  Risky, Swedishskev, Mastershev
Forwards:  Fuckov, Taykitov
Substitutes: Rubitov, Gechakitov, Sodov, Pastryshev, Najinsky, Desert Orchid


ROMANIAN SQUAD
Goalkeeper: Chatanoogaciouciou
Wing Backs: Atishiou, Blessiou, Thankyou
Defenders: Busqueue, Snookercu
Midfielders: Pennyciou, Twoapennyciou, Fourapennyciou
Forwards: I'llgetciou, Youandwhosarmi
Substitutes: U, NonU, ManU, Stuffyiou, Lee Kwan Yu


DANISH  SQUAD
Goalkeeper: Toomanigoalssen
Defenders: Tryandstopussen, Crapdefenssen, Haveagossen
Midfielders: Firstsson, Secondsson, Thirdsson
Wingers: Legshurtssen, Notroubleseeingussen
Forwards: Wherestheballssen, Getthebeerssen
Substitutes: Howmanygoalsisthatssen, Finallygaveupcountinssen, Hurryupandblowthewhistlessen, YourelatedtoAlexFergusonssen


ITIALIAN SQUAD
Goalkeeper: Baloni
Defenders: Potbelli, Beerbelli, Giveitsumwelli
Midfielders: Wotsontelli, Toonsgotkenni, Onetoomani
Wingers: Legslikejelli, Havabenni
Forwards: Wobblijelli, Spendapenni
Substitutes: Cantthinkofani, Buggermi


MEXICAN SQUAD
Goalkeeper: San Francisco
Defenders: Costa Brava, Hopelez, Juan Andonly, Manual Gearbox
Midfielders: Don Criformi-Argentina, Bodegas, Luis Canon, Sombrero
Forwards: Chihuahua, Jose
Substitutes: Jesus Maria Don Key, Burrito, Speedy Gonzalez, Tequila, Caramba


DUTCH SQUAD
Goalkeeper: Kenning Van Hire
Defenders: Van Diemansland, Van der Valk, Van Gard, Van Erealdizeez
Midfielders: Ad Van Tagus, Van Sprokendown, Aye van Hoe
Forwards: Van Coova, Hertz Van Rental, Transit Van Dors
Substitutes: Van Iller, Van Ishincreme, Van Morrison
I love the addition of Desert Orchid to the Russian subs
Ivor Bigun didn't make the panel
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 28, 2018, 06:01:30 PM
Fancy France this year, managed to back the top scorer in the Euros last time but struggling to have a pick this time! Last time out over 9 corners was a decent bet for me
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: BennyCake on May 28, 2018, 06:52:58 PM
I'll be cheering on Iceland.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: blewuporstuffed on May 29, 2018, 08:17:39 AM
Fancy France this year, managed to back the top scorer in the Euros last time but struggling to have a pick this time! Last time out over 9 corners was a decent bet for me
The french squad looks very strong on paper anyway.
Hard to know what they will go with for the starting lineup though
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: BenDover on May 30, 2018, 10:46:07 AM
For any of you with kids that have FIFA 18 - they've released a free World Cup update available to download. We've a PS4 think it's available on a few other platforms as well.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Orior on May 30, 2018, 11:48:04 AM
One of the best headlines ever "Raheem shoots himself in the foot"

Of course the irony award goes to Piers Morgan who chastised Raheem. Piers supports Arsenal, whose logo in a cannon.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Syferus on May 30, 2018, 12:50:51 PM
For any of you with kids that have FIFA 18 - they've released a free World Cup update available to download. We've a PS4 think it's available on a few other platforms as well.

I packed Messi in my Ultiamte Team, lad.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: lurganblue on June 04, 2018, 02:38:35 PM
So Sane doesn't make the German world cup squad.  They must have some side because there is no doubt that the lad is a real talent.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Orior on June 04, 2018, 02:41:29 PM
So Sane doesn't make the German world cup squad.  They must have some side because there is no doubt that the lad is a real talent.

Yes, it's inSane.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: laoislad on June 04, 2018, 04:00:41 PM
So Sane doesn't make the German world cup squad.  They must have some side because there is no doubt that the lad is a real talent.

Yes, it's inSane.
Only the 32414 time I've read that today. Well done. Very original.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on June 04, 2018, 04:04:47 PM
So Sane doesn't make the German world cup squad.  They must have some side because there is no doubt that the lad is a real talent.

Yes, it's inSane.
Only the 32414 time I've read that today. Well done. Very original.

Thank f&ck that pun never even crossed my mind  :P
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Orior on June 04, 2018, 04:58:21 PM
So Sane doesn't make the German world cup squad.  They must have some side because there is no doubt that the lad is a real talent.

Yes, it's inSane.
Only the 32414 time I've read that today. Well done. Very original.

Thank f&ck that pun never even crossed my mind  :P

Yeah yeah, but I came up with it fürst.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Tony Baloney on June 04, 2018, 05:32:23 PM
So Sane doesn't make the German world cup squad.  They must have some side because there is no doubt that the lad is a real talent.

Yes, it's inSane.
Only the 32414 time I've read that today. Well done. Very original.
I don't even have to check Gary Lineker's twitter feed to know it is already there.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Captain Obvious on June 04, 2018, 08:34:46 PM
A decent team of players not going to the World cup 2018.


Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on June 13, 2018, 09:39:31 AM
Spain supposedly sacking their manager the day before the tournament after it was leaked yesterday he will take over Real Madrid after the tournament.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Insane Bolt on June 13, 2018, 09:49:27 AM
Spain supposedly sacking their manager the day before the tournament after it was leaked yesterday he will take over Real Madrid after the tournament.

Crazy situation.....Big Sam is on standby 😎
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: gallsman on June 13, 2018, 09:51:17 AM
It wasn't leaked, it was announced publicly!

The federation absolutely raging as he recently signed a new contract. Hierro is now one of the bigwigs in it so can maybe smooth things over.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: GetOverTheBar on June 13, 2018, 11:10:15 AM
Spain supposedly sacking their manager the day before the tournament after it was leaked yesterday he will take over Real Madrid after the tournament.

He's now gone.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: gallsman on June 13, 2018, 11:17:47 AM
Amazing stuff altogether.

Players by all accounts didn't want him to go but the federation president, Rubiales, is fuming they he was only made aware of things five mins before the Madrid press release. Making it all about him rather than what the team wants/needs.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: screenexile on June 13, 2018, 11:19:42 AM
Absolute complete and utter madness!!!!
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 13, 2018, 11:24:32 AM
Has also affected their chances, well according to the bookies!! dropped from 11/2 to 13/2
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Shamrock Shore on June 13, 2018, 11:30:55 AM



The only man for the job
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: laoislad on June 13, 2018, 12:11:51 PM
Mexico USA and Canada to host the 2026 World Cup.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: ballinaman on June 13, 2018, 12:29:57 PM
Mexico USA and Canada to host the 2026 World Cup.
Congrats to Canada on qualifying
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: gallsman on June 13, 2018, 01:13:43 PM
Hierro going to take the Spain team.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Boycey on June 13, 2018, 01:18:18 PM
Figured he would, I read your comments earlier but I think they had little choice to sack him despite the players wishes. Madrid are the real villian here? There was no need to make it public til after the World Cup.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Insane Bolt on June 13, 2018, 01:32:54 PM
Mexico USA and Canada to host the 2026 World Cup.

Wall put on hold then?😜
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 13, 2018, 01:49:40 PM
Mexico USA and Canada to host the 2026 World Cup.

Wall put on hold then?😜

If Trump is still in power then there might not be a World cup, but a World War !!
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Cunny Funt on June 13, 2018, 01:55:12 PM
Spain supposedly sacking their manager the day before the tournament after it was leaked yesterday he will take over Real Madrid after the tournament.

He's now gone.
Ridiculous. I hope they have early exit after that carry on now.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: gallsman on June 13, 2018, 02:11:26 PM
Figured he would, I read your comments earlier but I think they had little choice to sack him despite the players wishes. Madrid are the real villian here? There was no need to make it public til after the World Cup.

There wasn't, but given it was already done, I don't see the need to sack him if the players don't want them to. The ambition is to win the world cup.

Bobby Robson was leaving England after WC 90 and it didn't hamper them at all.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Minder on June 13, 2018, 02:16:53 PM
Figured he would, I read your comments earlier but I think they had little choice to sack him despite the players wishes. Madrid are the real villian here? There was no need to make it public til after the World Cup.

There wasn't, but given it was already done, I don't see the need to sack him if the players don't want them to. The ambition is to win the world cup.

Bobby Robson was leaving England after WC 90 and it didn't hamper them at all.

Think that was common knowledge and the FA knew, the Spanish FA were right to be pissed off that he didn’t inform them of the Real Madrid job until 5 mins before it was announced , especially after just signing a new contract. Still wouldn’t have sacked him though.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: gallsman on June 13, 2018, 04:15:25 PM
If the objective is to give the team the best chance possible of winning the WC, there's no way changing coach helps. Federation putting its pride first.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Minder on June 13, 2018, 04:17:07 PM
If the objective is to give the team the best chance possible of winning the WC, there's no way changing coach helps. Federation putting its pride first.

Yep
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: BennyCake on June 13, 2018, 05:14:48 PM
Mexico USA and Canada to host the 2026 World Cup.
Congrats to Canada on qualifying

They'd have qualified anyway. There will be 168 teams in it by then.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: BennyCake on June 13, 2018, 05:20:54 PM
USA and Mexico hosted it before so they proved they can stage it on their own. I'd say all 3 is capable of staging it on their own, so why the need for a triple bid?

Two hosts too many means 2 less qualifying spots. But like I said, there'll be hundreds of teams in it by then so even Ireland should qualify.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Syferus on June 13, 2018, 05:48:14 PM
USA and Mexico hosted it before so they proved they can stage it on their own. I'd say all 3 is capable of staging it on their own, so why the need for a triple bid?

Two hosts too many means 2 less qualifying spots. But like I said, there'll be hundreds of teams in it by then so even Ireland should qualify.

You seriously think Mexico are capable of hosting a modern WC on its own?

:o
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: longballin on June 13, 2018, 05:53:57 PM
USA and Mexico hosted it before so they proved they can stage it on their own. I'd say all 3 is capable of staging it on their own, so why the need for a triple bid?

Two hosts too many means 2 less qualifying spots. But like I said, there'll be hundreds of teams in it by then so even Ireland should qualify.

You seriously think Mexico are capable of hosting a modern WC on its own?

:o

Are you Donald Trump? They've already held two. No borr to them... sure Brazil held the last one
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: magpie seanie on June 13, 2018, 05:58:20 PM
If the objective is to give the team the best chance possible of winning the WC, there's no way changing coach helps. Federation putting its pride first.


Ya....it would be like sending your best player home before the tournament or something like that.  ;D
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Captain Obvious on June 13, 2018, 06:07:31 PM
USA and Mexico hosted it before so they proved they can stage it on their own. I'd say all 3 is capable of staging it on their own, so why the need for a triple bid?

Two hosts too many means 2 less qualifying spots. But like I said, there'll be hundreds of teams in it by then so even Ireland should qualify.

Quantity over quality. No need for triple hosts. Just look at how tiny Qatar are and they will be hosting the 2022 World cup.





Time for the English to pull the finger out and get hosting another World cup.

Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Syferus on June 13, 2018, 06:26:09 PM
USA and Mexico hosted it before so they proved they can stage it on their own. I'd say all 3 is capable of staging it on their own, so why the need for a triple bid?

Two hosts too many means 2 less qualifying spots. But like I said, there'll be hundreds of teams in it by then so even Ireland should qualify.

You seriously think Mexico are capable of hosting a modern WC on its own?

:o

Are you Donald Trump? They've already held two. No borr to them... sure Brazil held the last one

Seriously?
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: BennyCake on June 13, 2018, 06:33:18 PM
USA and Mexico hosted it before so they proved they can stage it on their own. I'd say all 3 is capable of staging it on their own, so why the need for a triple bid?

Two hosts too many means 2 less qualifying spots. But like I said, there'll be hundreds of teams in it by then so even Ireland should qualify.

Quantity over quality. No need for triple hosts. Just look at how tiny Qatar are and they will be hosting the 2022 World cup.





Time for the English to pull the finger big brown envelope out and get hosting another World cup.

Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Therealdonald on June 13, 2018, 06:36:48 PM
USA and Mexico hosted it before so they proved they can stage it on their own. I'd say all 3 is capable of staging it on their own, so why the need for a triple bid?

Two hosts too many means 2 less qualifying spots. But like I said, there'll be hundreds of teams in it by then so even Ireland should qualify.

You seriously think Mexico are capable of hosting a modern WC on its own?

:o

Are you Donald Trump? They've already held two. No borr to them... sure Brazil held the last one

Seriously?

Syf have you ever been to Mexico?? They are more than qualified to host it. I agree that it didn't need 3 hosts, but it will bring a novelty to proceedings anyway. Be a a nice trip if the Repiblic can qualify.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Syferus on June 13, 2018, 06:38:39 PM
USA and Mexico hosted it before so they proved they can stage it on their own. I'd say all 3 is capable of staging it on their own, so why the need for a triple bid?

Two hosts too many means 2 less qualifying spots. But like I said, there'll be hundreds of teams in it by then so even Ireland should qualify.

You seriously think Mexico are capable of hosting a modern WC on its own?

:o

Are you Donald Trump? They've already held two. No borr to them... sure Brazil held the last one

Seriously?

Syf have you ever been to Mexico?? They are more than qualified to host it. I agree that it didn't need 3 hosts, but it will bring a novelty to proceedings anyway. Be a a nice trip if the Repiblic can qualify.

Mexico are in no way qualified to host a WC. And using Brazil, with the incredible debt they incurred trying to get aging stadia up to standard among other white elephant infrastructure projects while the poor continued to suffer as proof of the contrary shows a serious lack of perspective.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Therealdonald on June 13, 2018, 07:01:18 PM
USA and Mexico hosted it before so they proved they can stage it on their own. I'd say all 3 is capable of staging it on their own, so why the need for a triple bid?

Two hosts too many means 2 less qualifying spots. But like I said, there'll be hundreds of teams in it by then so even Ireland should qualify.

You seriously think Mexico are capable of hosting a modern WC on its own?

:o

Are you Donald Trump? They've already held two. No borr to them... sure Brazil held the last one

Seriously?

Syf have you ever been to Mexico?? They are more than qualified to host it. I agree that it didn't need 3 hosts, but it will bring a novelty to proceedings anyway. Be a a nice trip if the Repiblic can qualify.

Mexico are in no way qualified to host a WC. And using Brazil, with the incredible debt they incurred trying to get aging stadia up to standard among other white elephant infrastructure projects while the poor continued to suffer as proof of the contrary shows a serious lack of perspective.

How are they not qualified to host a WC in comparison to Morocco?
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Syferus on June 13, 2018, 07:05:26 PM
USA and Mexico hosted it before so they proved they can stage it on their own. I'd say all 3 is capable of staging it on their own, so why the need for a triple bid?

Two hosts too many means 2 less qualifying spots. But like I said, there'll be hundreds of teams in it by then so even Ireland should qualify.

You seriously think Mexico are capable of hosting a modern WC on its own?

:o

Are you Donald Trump? They've already held two. No borr to them... sure Brazil held the last one

Seriously?

Syf have you ever been to Mexico?? They are more than qualified to host it. I agree that it didn't need 3 hosts, but it will bring a novelty to proceedings anyway. Be a a nice trip if the Repiblic can qualify.

Mexico are in no way qualified to host a WC. And using Brazil, with the incredible debt they incurred trying to get aging stadia up to standard among other white elephant infrastructure projects while the poor continued to suffer as proof of the contrary shows a serious lack of perspective.

How are they not qualified to host a WC in comparison to Morocco?

Your attempts to willfully mischaracterise what is said are kinda boring.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: dec on June 13, 2018, 07:39:53 PM
Deadspin has a great headline for the Spain manager story

https://deadspin.com/spain-shoots-its-own-dick-off-in-the-name-of-propriety-1826791494
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on June 13, 2018, 07:41:38 PM
The last World Cup that México hosted had 24 teams. The 2026 one will have 48 teams. No way that México would have the infrastructure to support that.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Capt Pat on June 13, 2018, 07:49:22 PM
If the US can't host it on its own then nobody can. 48 teams will require a lot of stadia and infrastructure.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Syferus on June 13, 2018, 07:54:26 PM
If the US can't host it on its own then nobody can. 48 teams will require a lot of stadia and infrastructure.

No one has said the Us couldn’t host it on their own.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: shark on June 13, 2018, 08:37:56 PM
If the US can't host it on its own then nobody can. 48 teams will require a lot of stadia and infrastructure.

No one has said the Us couldn’t host it on their own.

Of course they could. They could host two world cups at the same time if they wanted.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: seafoid on June 14, 2018, 08:17:42 AM
USA and Mexico hosted it before so they proved they can stage it on their own. I'd say all 3 is capable of staging it on their own, so why the need for a triple bid?

Two hosts too many means 2 less qualifying spots. But like I said, there'll be hundreds of teams in it by then so even Ireland should qualify.

You seriously think Mexico are capable of hosting a modern WC on its own?

:o

Are you Donald Trump? They've already held two. No borr to them... sure Brazil held the last one

Seriously?

Syf have you ever been to Mexico?? They are more than qualified to host it. I agree that it didn't need 3 hosts, but it will bring a novelty to proceedings anyway. Be a a nice trip if the Repiblic can qualify.

Mexico are in no way qualified to host a WC. And using Brazil, with the incredible debt they incurred trying to get aging stadia up to standard among other white elephant infrastructure projects while the poor continued to suffer as proof of the contrary shows a serious lack of perspective.
South Africa and Russia would be further behind than Mexico and they both won the right to hold the World Cup.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: seafoid on June 14, 2018, 08:18:20 AM
Conor Moore :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-TRs2g9aVo
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: mouview on June 14, 2018, 11:12:47 AM
From a football purists POV, hope it's a Belgium/Argentina final.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Armamike on June 14, 2018, 11:20:51 AM
Real Madrid up to their shenanigans again.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 14, 2018, 03:25:19 PM
Is Mo Salah fit for the first game?
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: laoislad on June 14, 2018, 03:31:38 PM
Plenty of hot Russian women in the crowd.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: DrinkingHarp on June 14, 2018, 03:35:38 PM
Plenty of hot Russian women in the crowd.

http://russian-dating.com/
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on June 14, 2018, 03:45:34 PM
Is Robbie Williams big in Russia? Fecking state of him.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Captain Obvious on June 14, 2018, 05:56:07 PM
The conclusion so far is Saudi Arabia are shite.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Cunny Funt on June 14, 2018, 06:01:07 PM
Plenty of hot Russian women in the crowd.
The Russian World cup ambassador is decent


Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Capt Pat on June 14, 2018, 06:01:27 PM
I see the Russians have taken their wheatabix/steroids. 5-0 against the Saudis.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: laoislad on June 14, 2018, 06:19:30 PM
Plenty of hot Russian women in the crowd.
The Russian World cup ambassador is decent



Could do with a feed of spuds.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: seafoid on June 14, 2018, 06:26:39 PM
The conclusion so far is Saudi Arabia are shite.
The Saudis are Sunni
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on June 14, 2018, 06:44:07 PM
Plenty of hot Russian women in the crowd.
The Russian World cup ambassador is decent



Could do with a feed of spuds.

Meat and 2 veg would be better  ;)
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: johnnycool on June 15, 2018, 08:59:09 AM
Photoshopped tae f**k!

Before shot;

Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 15, 2018, 02:13:29 PM
Uruguay huffing and puffing here! Saurze hasn’t had a kick
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Geoff Tipps on June 15, 2018, 02:18:02 PM
Uruguay huffing and puffing here! Saurze hasn’t had a kick

He should have had a couple. What game are you watching??
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 15, 2018, 02:33:35 PM
He’s been rubbish, a younger in form Suarez would have scored, but Uruguay have been awful
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: gallsman on June 15, 2018, 02:40:05 PM
He’s been rubbish, a younger in form Suarez would have scored, but Uruguay have been awful

Anyone here been watching Barca got the last two seasons? Suarez is a donkey for about 80% of every game and then might score two absolute screamers.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: oakleaflad on June 15, 2018, 02:58:19 PM
Uruguay got over the line having been very poor for 80 minutes. Suarez didn't look very sharp. No sign of Mo Salah.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Boycey on June 15, 2018, 03:02:45 PM
Uruguay got over the line having been very poor for 80 minutes. Suarez didn't look very sharp. No sign of Mo Salah.

Was watching golf and just switched over a couple of times to check score, is Suarez carrying a bit more timber than he used to?
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: gallsman on June 15, 2018, 03:03:50 PM
Nonsense from Pearce and Keown on commentary, saying they should have brought Salah on for ten mins. As if he wouldn't be playing if he was anything remotely close to resembling being fit
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Shamrock Shore on June 15, 2018, 04:41:27 PM
Jay-zis. I've a pain in me swiss listening to Brian Kerr  >:(
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: rrhf on June 15, 2018, 05:47:50 PM
Atmosphere almost vevuzela like
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Syferus on June 15, 2018, 05:57:50 PM
Some finish to both games today. That has to be one of the worst and most costly own goals in I’ve ever seen.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: laoislad on June 15, 2018, 05:58:04 PM

Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Syferus on June 15, 2018, 06:53:37 PM
“As counties go, these are bitter rivals”

Ger..
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Farrandeelin on June 15, 2018, 07:09:33 PM
Ger Canning has to be the most useless commentator of all time on any tv station ever.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: LooseCannon on June 15, 2018, 07:12:03 PM
Ger Canning has to be the most useless commentator of all time on any tv station ever.
Nah, Martin Carney and Tommy Carr are worse, albeit they’re co-commentators.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: BennyCake on June 15, 2018, 07:19:46 PM
Ger Canning has to be the most useless commentator of all time on any tv station ever.

I'll be avoiding RTE then.

At least he'll not be commentating on GAA matches then.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on June 15, 2018, 07:26:48 PM
My thinking for costa goal... He clocked him - he is a dirty fecker i dunno how they allow that. Then i realise... Ah it's pepe. Fair enough.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Syferus on June 15, 2018, 07:27:00 PM
This match is really getting the WC rolling. Pure theatre.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: LooseCannon on June 15, 2018, 07:31:01 PM
This match is really getting the WC rolling. Pure theatre.
I’m hoping for 2-2
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: LooseCannon on June 15, 2018, 07:44:40 PM
😮
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on June 15, 2018, 07:48:08 PM
Concussed
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Syferus on June 15, 2018, 07:48:42 PM
Ronnie might double his WC total from the last three in one game..
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on June 15, 2018, 07:49:01 PM
David De Karius
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: laoislad on June 15, 2018, 07:50:09 PM
My thinking for costa goal... He clocked him - he is a dirty fecker i dunno how they allow that. Then i realise... Ah it's pepe. Fair enough.
Ha exactly what I thought.!
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: laoislad on June 15, 2018, 07:52:00 PM
Maybe BennyCake was right about De Gea after all...
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Boycey on June 15, 2018, 07:53:24 PM
I thought Benny would be 1st on  ;D

Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Farrandeelin on June 15, 2018, 07:56:06 PM
I thought Benny would be 1st on  ;D

So did I haha.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: gawa316 on June 15, 2018, 08:15:16 PM
No coincidence Ramos is also on the pitch!
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: armaghniac on June 15, 2018, 08:17:14 PM
Serious third goal, worthy of a world cup.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Boycey on June 15, 2018, 08:27:47 PM
Does Nani not make the Portugal squad these days he's gotta be a couple of years younger than Ronnie?


Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on June 15, 2018, 08:30:57 PM
He was named in provisional squad but didn't make final cut
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: laoislad on June 15, 2018, 08:37:28 PM
Aspas brought on to take the corners.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Wildweasel74 on June 15, 2018, 08:44:51 PM
some f**king goal
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Wildweasel74 on June 15, 2018, 08:45:27 PM
thats the best world cup game since Brazil v italy 1982
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on June 15, 2018, 08:46:07 PM
Gees that p***k is good.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Boycey on June 15, 2018, 08:46:35 PM
One trick pony a wise man once said...
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Captain Obvious on June 15, 2018, 08:46:52 PM
Not a bad start to the World cup for Ronaldo.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: heganboy on June 15, 2018, 08:46:55 PM
He knew what he was doing from he set that ball down. Masterful
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: laoislad on June 15, 2018, 08:47:20 PM
thats the best world cup game since Brazil v italy 1982
Calm down.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Wildweasel74 on June 15, 2018, 08:48:14 PM
A wise man on rte said he be found out in time lol
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Syferus on June 15, 2018, 08:50:38 PM
This guy. Over to Messi go try to follow that.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Cunny Funt on June 15, 2018, 08:54:37 PM
Good match enjoyed that just a pity Ger Canning is so awful on the mic.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Insane Bolt on June 15, 2018, 08:55:13 PM
Can't understand why teams have a wall at free kicks.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: From the Bunker on June 15, 2018, 08:58:42 PM
Good match enjoyed that just a pity Ger Canning is so awful on the mic.

Yes, soccer commentary is all about the silences. You don't have to ramble on and on.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on June 15, 2018, 09:03:47 PM
He knew what he was doing from he set that ball down. Masterful

Yeah trying to score.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on June 15, 2018, 09:05:36 PM
Can't understand why teams have a wall at free kicks.

Villa done it one time v Utd. Beckham stuck it in top corner.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Boycey on June 15, 2018, 09:06:10 PM
Good match enjoyed that just a pity Ger Canning is so awful on the mic.

Yes, soccer commentary is all about the silences. You don't have to ramble on and on.

Yis all know it's on other channels too??
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Cunny Funt on June 15, 2018, 09:08:43 PM
Good match enjoyed that just a pity Ger Canning is so awful on the mic.

Yes, soccer commentary is all about the silences. You don't have to ramble on and on.

Yis all know it's on other channels too??

I couldn't find the remote control!
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Carmen Stateside on June 15, 2018, 09:24:45 PM
De gea has made the world cup for me.  brilliant stuff ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on June 15, 2018, 09:49:39 PM
De gea has made the world cup for me.  brilliant stuff ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

It's his third clanger in last four international games.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: BennyCake on June 15, 2018, 09:54:34 PM
De gea has made the world cup for me.  brilliant stuff ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Best in the world apparently  ::)
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Boycey on June 15, 2018, 10:15:09 PM
Spain looked like real live contenders in fairness, if they get rid of the dodge in goals obviously..
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Captain Obvious on June 15, 2018, 10:50:02 PM
De gea has made the world cup for me.  brilliant stuff ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

It's his third clanger in last four international games.
He needs to stop bumping into Ramos = concussion every time.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 15, 2018, 10:54:24 PM
De gea has made the world cup for me.  brilliant stuff ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

When you’re up against the best it’s difficult to concentrate!
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: magpie seanie on June 15, 2018, 11:17:11 PM
A wise man on rte said he be found out in time lol


"....only a cod..."
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Dire Ear on June 15, 2018, 11:36:46 PM
Spain will still be there or thereabouts
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: gallsman on June 15, 2018, 11:44:21 PM
Spain will still be there or thereabouts

Yeah, Ronaldo (rightly) taking the plaudits has distracted a lot of people from the fact that Portugal didn't actually win and were comprehensively outplayed for large portions of the match. Costa looks in great shape.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: macdanger2 on June 15, 2018, 11:59:03 PM
Does Nani not make the Portugal squad these days he's gotta be a couple of years younger than Ronnie?

How is Quaresma still there? Seems like he's been around for yonks
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 16, 2018, 12:05:33 AM
Spain will still be there or thereabouts

Yeah, Ronaldo (rightly) taking the plaudits has distracted a lot of people from the fact that Portugal didn't actually win and were comprehensively outplayed for large portions of the match. Costa looks in great shape.

Both Spain and a Portugal to hammer the rest in their group, with 3 goals Ronaldo is still a good price at 5/2 for top scorer! Generally 6/7 goals wins it
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on June 16, 2018, 06:51:43 AM
Funny, I get the plaudits but Ronaldo was poor in open play, scored a pen, a fluke and a peach of a free kick. Spain were the better side and definitely have more balance to them. That strike  :o

The World Cup, although played by professional athletes is probably the most amateur of all sporting  competitions.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Dougal Maguire on June 16, 2018, 07:32:17 AM
Without having to think too hard did he not create the penalty, and did he not also,very unselfishly, hand a certain goal on a plate to a team mate, who missed it? I don't particularly like him, but to try and pick holes in his performance last night is pure nonsense in my opinion.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: lenny on June 16, 2018, 07:49:49 AM
Funny, I get the plaudits but Ronaldo was poor in open play, scored a pen, a fluke and a peach of a free kick. Spain were the better side and definitely have more balance to them. That strike  :o

The World Cup, although played by professional athletes is probably the most amateur of all sporting  competitions.

lol, he also won the penalty and the free kick that he scored. Maybe you missed that.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: gallsman on June 16, 2018, 07:58:20 AM
Without having to think too hard did he not create the penalty, and did he not also,very unselfishly, hand a certain goal on a plate to a team mate, who missed it? I don't particularly like him, but to try and pick holes in his performance last night is pure nonsense in my opinion.

How is it nonsense? In the buildup to Spain's third, he was involved in giving the ball away and literally stopped playing because he was huffing even though three Spanish lads were passing it around him very closely.

He was absolutely Portugal's saviour but that doesn't mean everything he did on the pitch was perfect.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on June 16, 2018, 08:59:51 AM
Funny, I get the plaudits but Ronaldo was poor in open play, scored a pen, a fluke and a peach of a free kick. Spain were the better side and definitely have more balance to them. That strike  :o

The World Cup, although played by professional athletes is probably the most amateur of all sporting  competitions.

lol, he also won the penalty and the free kick that he scored. Maybe you missed that.

He made a very unselfish pass in the first half when through which should have been a goal too. Great pass and to be honest i was a bit shocked to see it.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Boycey on June 16, 2018, 09:09:22 AM
Without having to think too hard did he not create the penalty, and did he not also,very unselfishly, hand a certain goal on a plate to a team mate, who missed it? I don't particularly like him, but to try and pick holes in his performance last night is pure nonsense in my opinion.

How is it nonsense? In the buildup to Spain's third, he was involved in giving the ball away and literally stopped playing because he was huffing even though three Spanish lads were passing it around him very closely.

He was absolutely Portugal's saviour but that doesn't mean everything he did on the pitch was perfect.

If he's arguing the point that Ronaldo was poor in open play it is nonsense cause he just wasn't..  :)
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Dougal Maguire on June 16, 2018, 09:41:17 AM
Without having to think too hard did he not create the penalty, and did he not also,very unselfishly, hand a certain goal on a plate to a team mate, who missed it? I don't particularly like him, but to try and pick holes in his performance last night is pure nonsense in my opinion.

How is it nonsense? In the buildup to Spain's third, he was involved in giving the ball away and literally stopped playing because he was huffing even though three Spanish lads were passing it around him very closely. 

He was absolutely Portugal's saviour but that doesn't mean everything he did on the pitch was perfect.
I didn't say everything he did on the pitch was perfect, did I? I said the comment that he was poor in open play was nonsense.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on June 16, 2018, 09:42:42 AM
Without having to think too hard did he not create the penalty, and did he not also,very unselfishly, hand a certain goal on a plate to a team mate, who missed it? I don't particularly like him, but to try and pick holes in his performance last night is pure nonsense in my opinion.

How is it nonsense? In the buildup to Spain's third, he was involved in giving the ball away and literally stopped playing because he was huffing even though three Spanish lads were passing it around him very closely.

He was absolutely Portugal's saviour but that doesn't mean everything he did on the pitch was perfect.

If he's arguing the point that Ronaldo was poor in open play it is nonsense cause he just wasn't..  :)

He was shit off the ball but people see what they are told to see.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Dougal Maguire on June 16, 2018, 09:44:45 AM
Give some examples
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 16, 2018, 09:48:22 AM
Most forwards are shit off the ball! they are paid to score goals! Scoring 3 against Spain who in most parts dominated the game is some going for an aging hasbeen....

The problem is Ronaldo is like marmite..
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: gallsman on June 16, 2018, 10:16:37 AM
Give some examples

The time he huffed and just refused to play even though the ball was two yards from him, ultimately leasing to the Nacho goal...
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Gold on June 16, 2018, 10:22:32 AM
IMO...dived for the pen. Like if we are all honest he threw himself over the leg, he wasnt kicked to the floor
Was lucky for 2nd goal
Stropped
Dived for the free kick....like actually was not even touched yet no one has said a word about it on TV or elsewhere
His free kick was unbelievable

I saw him v Las Palmas in November.  Real won 3 nil but he didn't score. He tried to shoot from everywhere, stropped about and at final whistle ran off 1st...raging. Ramos on tv after said you cant speak to him if he doesn't score...its all about him

Huge ego and hence he is like marmite
A tool for me but his last goal was unreal under that pressure. He absolutely bought the pen and free kick imo...that is a skill in itself

Spain were unbelievably good at times. That carousel passing was a joy. Like Matadors at times
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on June 16, 2018, 10:30:59 AM
Isco best player on pitch.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Dougal Maguire on June 16, 2018, 10:44:30 AM
Give some examples

The time he huffed and just refused to play even though the ball was two yards from him, ultimately leasing to the Nacho goal...
You already gave that example. Are there any others you have that demonstrate that the suggestion that 'he was poor from open play' isn't nonsense
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Boycey on June 16, 2018, 10:47:17 AM
What a crowd of try hard cnuts  ;D

Nobody's asking you to worship at the altar of Ronaldo just acknowledge that he played reasonably well last night.. in open play Isco, Silva were the best on the pitch but Ronaldo was easily Portugal's best player especially in the 1st half. Also Spain are a significantly better team than Portugal, who are below England in the betting ffs, so of course they were better.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: laoislad on June 16, 2018, 11:11:14 AM
What a goal.


 (http://s954.photobucket.com/user/laoislad1978/media/DfwWh-wUEAAieZY.gif.html) :)
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: seafoid on June 16, 2018, 11:18:21 AM
Portugal might be worth a punt. They are not the best squad . They weren't at the Euros either. And they won. It is a tournament rather than a league.

https://www.rte.ie/sport/world-cup-2018/2018/0615/970888-hat-trick-hero-ronaldo-looking-to-the-next-match/

We have to look to the next match now because our goal is to win," Ronaldo said.

"We have to take it match by match and move on through the group stage.

"We are not the favourites but we will do our best and try to beat Morocco on Wednesday.

Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Over the Bar on June 16, 2018, 12:01:08 PM
What a crowd of try hard cnuts  ;D

Nobody's asking you to worship at the altar of Ronaldo just acknowledge that he played reasonably well last night.. in open play Isco, Silva were the best on the pitch but Ronaldo was easily Portugal's best player especially in the 1st half. Also Spain are a significantly better team than Portugal, who are below England in the betting ffs, so of course they were better.

Surprised we haven't heard Salah's name yet and suggestions he is as good as Ronaldo. lol
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on June 16, 2018, 12:08:34 PM
France looking their usual enigmatic selves here.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on June 16, 2018, 12:12:56 PM
That decision is bullshit.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: laoislad on June 16, 2018, 12:17:40 PM
What would have happened if Australia scored before the ball went out of play before he looked at the video?

Peno for Oz now.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on June 16, 2018, 12:23:20 PM
Why was it so delayed? Did the linesman flag?

Glad oz equalised. That boy who scored it (jeznik is it?) is a tough nut.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 16, 2018, 12:24:54 PM
Liverpool’s new signing looks like coming on
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: laoislad on June 16, 2018, 12:26:15 PM
Why was it so delayed? Did the linesman flag?

Glad oz equalised. That boy who scored it (jeznik is it?) is a tough nut.
I'm guessing he was waiting for the ball to go out of play.
That's why I'm wondering what would have happened if the Aussies scored. Would the goal be given and then he would have looked at VAR and given a peno?
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: smort on June 16, 2018, 12:27:43 PM
Was a penalty for me. Aussie guy got the faintest of touches which didn't actually knock the ball away from griezman who would still have gone on to get a shot away. The Aussie player then catches him from behind, it's a penalty
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on June 16, 2018, 12:30:05 PM
Why was it so delayed? Did the linesman flag?

Glad oz equalised. That boy who scored it (jeznik is it?) is a tough nut.
I'm guessing he was waiting for the ball to go out of play.
That's why I'm wondering what would have happened if the Aussies scored. Would the goal be given and then he would have looked at VAR and given a peno?

No idea what would have happened but I bet that scenario will happen some day.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 16, 2018, 12:35:35 PM
The Aussies give you work rate! Fair fecks to them should the hold out or win! France are typically slow starters
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: JPGJOHNNYG on June 16, 2018, 12:44:38 PM
There have been some great own goals already lol bullet headers yesterday delicate lobs today
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 16, 2018, 01:03:19 PM
There have been some great own goals already lol bullet headers yesterday delicate lobs today

Amazing how he played the ball off the defender to score the goal! Quality
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: laoislad on June 16, 2018, 01:13:18 PM
Pogba the second United player to score following on from De Gea's goal last night.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 16, 2018, 01:20:39 PM
Pogba the second United player to score following on from De Gea's goal last night.

In fairness to De Gea he was hit by a fly just beforehand... concussion reports coming in from Spain’s doctors  :D
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: ballinaman on June 16, 2018, 01:22:50 PM
Pogba the second United player to score following on from De Gea's goal last night.

Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: BennyCake on June 16, 2018, 01:42:06 PM
I see RTE have one of the Après Match fellas impersonating Keith Andrews for this game.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 16, 2018, 02:26:18 PM
As good as the Argies are going forward they are suspect at the back!!
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Syferus on June 16, 2018, 02:34:07 PM
Bit of a rough tackle by the ref there.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Boycey on June 16, 2018, 02:46:17 PM
I have to say I've yet to be won over by VAR. .
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Syferus on June 16, 2018, 02:51:04 PM
I have to say I've yet to be won over by VAR. .

Don’t get this skepticism that’s in vogue about the VAR. It works in every other field sport, and it will only take one instance where the wrong call on the field being overturned to fully justify its use.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 16, 2018, 02:58:35 PM
Three Utd men doing punditry on ITV! Bit biased
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: JPGJOHNNYG on June 16, 2018, 03:08:35 PM
VAR has been fine they just need a tmo instead of the ref running to a TV in the tunnel to speed it up. The Europeans doing well as always so far, even Iceland causing probs for the Argies. Can't wait for FIFA to expand the world cup to 64 teams and reward UEFA with about 10 spots. Silly me thinking UEFA had all the power what we need is obviously more teams of Saudi Arabias quality.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: armaghniac on June 16, 2018, 03:20:22 PM
Iceland are the Fermanagh of FIFA.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: JPGJOHNNYG on June 16, 2018, 03:23:30 PM
Poster boy misses penalty ha ha. Come on iceland
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 16, 2018, 03:25:55 PM
At the minute CR7 has upstaged Messi
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: shark on June 16, 2018, 03:27:27 PM
At the minute CR7 has upstaged Messi

Which matters a lot to him no doubt.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: ziggy90 on June 16, 2018, 03:29:23 PM
Messi doesn't look fit. As a matter of fact he looks ill.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 16, 2018, 03:38:29 PM
Messi doesn't look fit. As a matter of fact he looks ill.

Very lazy
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: J70 on June 16, 2018, 03:45:37 PM
I don't know... in the last ten minutes now and he's trying to do everything on his own. It's all Messi going across the edge of the box trying to work the shot. In fairness, he's coming close, but Iceland just have to pack up the middle of the box.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: laoislad on June 16, 2018, 03:54:53 PM
Deserved point for Iceland.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Captain Obvious on June 16, 2018, 03:55:55 PM
Well done Iceland hard work brings success. Messi will need to step up if Argentina are to make an impact in this World cup.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: shark on June 16, 2018, 03:56:14 PM
VAR has been fine they just need a tmo instead of the ref running to a TV in the tunnel to speed it up. The Europeans doing well as always so far, even Iceland causing probs for the Argies. Can't wait for FIFA to expand the world cup to 64 teams and reward UEFA with about 10 spots. Silly me thinking UEFA had all the power what we need is obviously more teams of Saudi Arabias quality.

2026 World Cup increases number of teams by 50%. European teams only go from 13 to 16. It will be very hard for the likes of Saudi to fail to qualify. There should be a coefficient system based on actual results, like in the Champions League.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Syferus on June 16, 2018, 03:56:41 PM
Doesn’t bode well for the quaility of the SA teams when two of the big three laboured so heavily against a Salah-less Eygpt and Iceland.

There needs to be more European sides in the expanded WC.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: shark on June 16, 2018, 03:57:45 PM
Doesn’t bode well for the quaility of the SA teams when two of the big three laboured so heavily against a Salah-less Eygpt and Iceland.

There needs to be more European sides in the expanded WC.

Snap. It's a joke. 2026 group stages will be a borefest.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: JPGJOHNNYG on June 16, 2018, 04:17:46 PM
Half the teams should be from Europe and even then that is low compared to the rankings but as stated only 16 out of 42 will be from UEFA in 2026. The euros is a far superior tournament even when it has been expanded ( which it shouldnt have). World qualifying is the simple answer to get the best teams.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Syferus on June 16, 2018, 04:22:11 PM
Half the teams should be from Europe and even then that is low compared to the rankings but as stated only 16 out of 42 will be from UEFA in 2026. The euros is a far superior tournament even when it has been expanded ( which it shouldnt have). World qualifying is the simple answer to get the best teams.

They were totally right to expand the Euros. They could still add more and the quaility of it would be higher than the current WC.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: shark on June 16, 2018, 04:30:32 PM
Half the teams should be from Europe and even then that is low compared to the rankings but as stated only 16 out of 42 will be from UEFA in 2026. The euros is a far superior tournament even when it has been expanded ( which it shouldnt have). World qualifying is the simple answer to get the best teams.

16 out of 48. Worse again!
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Capt Pat on June 16, 2018, 04:44:38 PM
Dybala didn't get on for Argentina and Higuain only got 10 minutes or so. I would have started both including Messi and Aguero.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 16, 2018, 04:57:12 PM
Remember Argentina just about qualified! So no real surprise
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: laoislad on June 16, 2018, 04:59:09 PM
Peru's jersey is class.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: seafoid on June 16, 2018, 05:07:15 PM
Doesn’t bode well for the quaility of the SA teams when two of the big three laboured so heavily against a Salah-less Eygpt and Iceland.

There needs to be more European sides in the expanded WC.
It is easy to put an excessive weight on the first round. Spain lost to Switzerland in 2010 in the first round.

It was a bit like Ros beating Galway in 2001. ;)
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: JPGJOHNNYG on June 16, 2018, 05:09:44 PM
Half the teams should be from Europe and even then that is low compared to the rankings but as stated only 16 out of 42 will be from UEFA in 2026. The euros is a far superior tournament even when it has been expanded ( which it shouldnt have). World qualifying is the simple answer to get the best teams.

16 out of 48. Worse again!

Ha jeez disaster. Like i say 24 should be to europe then and thats not to make it easier for Ireland i just want to see the best teams and not a lot of crap.
Peru playing well so far
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: JPGJOHNNYG on June 16, 2018, 05:11:03 PM
Ok game but may have to go back to the rugby and watch the fights
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: From the Bunker on June 16, 2018, 05:13:51 PM
Peru's jersey is class.

It's class alright! That's the style of Jersey they always wear. Except when they played Argentina in 1978!

There was a reason they did not play in their Jersey that time!


Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: weareros on June 16, 2018, 05:20:13 PM
I assume you mean because their government ordered them to lose by more than 4.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: seafoid on June 16, 2018, 05:32:16 PM
I think both the Euros and the World Cup sacrificed quality/integrity for money in their recent expansions. There are not 24 decent teams in Europe at any one time and there are a lot of crap teams at this tournament. 
Expanding the Euros let the BIG in twice during their ongoing decades long crisis and they really shouldn't have been allowed play.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: From the Bunker on June 16, 2018, 05:37:03 PM
I assume you mean because their government ordered them to lose by more than 4.

There must have been some really pissed off Brazilians after that world Cup. Knocked out of a competition on goal difference in the semi-final groups! Gas thing in those days was the final group games were at different times.

Remember Austria/Germany doing the dirt in 1982 to stop Algeria getting out of the group!
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Syferus on June 16, 2018, 05:45:19 PM
Ref was giving nothing to Peru and thanks to the VAR they’ve got a penalty..

What a miss.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Dougal Maguire on June 16, 2018, 06:19:05 PM
Peru seem determined to try to lose the match
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: From the Bunker on June 16, 2018, 06:35:26 PM
Peru seem determined to try to lose the match

They are wearing the wrong Jerseys for that!  ;D
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: gallsman on June 16, 2018, 07:01:32 PM
Never heard a commentary and punditry team focus so much on the emotional state of a lad who missed a penalty as on the BBC. He's a professional footballer, get over it.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: seafoid on June 16, 2018, 08:25:29 PM
Croatia are playing Nigeria in Kaliningrad. Until 1945 it was a German city, in Prussia, called Königsberg. Nobody talks about Prussia any more.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: JPGJOHNNYG on June 16, 2018, 09:30:10 PM
Good decision that far too much wrestling around in the penalty box these days
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on June 16, 2018, 09:35:33 PM
1 arm they get away with but that was both wrapped round him.

Nigeria very poor.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Baile an tuaigh on June 16, 2018, 09:36:07 PM
Croatia are playing Nigeria in Kaliningrad. Until 1945 it was a German city, in Prussia, called Königsberg. Nobody talks about Prussia any more.



Very true and no one talks about the massacres of 30 million Germans.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on June 16, 2018, 09:46:31 PM
Also moses is very fond of going to ground.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Syferus on June 16, 2018, 09:48:47 PM
Croatia are playing Nigeria in Kaliningrad. Until 1945 it was a German city, in Prussia, called Königsberg. Nobody talks about Prussia any more.

I’m sure you can find some way to blame capitalism for it all if you try hard enough.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: gallsman on June 16, 2018, 09:53:31 PM
Croatia are playing Nigeria in Kaliningrad. Until 1945 it was a German city, in Prussia, called Königsberg. Nobody talks about Prussia any more.



Very true and no one talks about the massacres of 30 million Germans.

Oh this should be very good.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on June 16, 2018, 09:57:38 PM
Croatia are playing Nigeria in Kaliningrad. Until 1945 it was a German city, in Prussia, called Königsberg. Nobody talks about Prussia any more.

And nobody talks about Bulgaria on the news anymore.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: sid waddell on June 16, 2018, 09:58:44 PM
Croatia are playing Nigeria in Kaliningrad. Until 1945 it was a German city, in Prussia, called Königsberg. Nobody talks about Prussia any more.



Very true and no one talks about the massacres of 30 million Germans.
I bet you were up for Croatia there - especially with their history and all...



Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: seafoid on June 16, 2018, 10:07:28 PM
Croatia are playing Nigeria in Kaliningrad. Until 1945 it was a German city, in Prussia, called Königsberg. Nobody talks about Prussia any more.

And nobody talks about Bulgaria on the news anymore.
Any time the Wombles come up they do 
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: seafoid on June 16, 2018, 10:17:16 PM
One of the centres for group matches is Volgograd.  It was known in Ww2 as Stalingrad, where the Nazis ran into a wall.

The Soviets won the war but the cost was unbearable.

http://www.nybooks.com/daily/2015/10/12/svetlana-alexievich-truth-many-voices/

"She also very quickly explained that the fault lay not with one man but with the experiences of Soviet generations, now reworked for new wars. When she listed the fake descriptions of events in Ukraine in the Russian media, she spoke of Russian society as a “collective Putin.” As she put it, “Putin placed his bet on the basest instincts and won. Even if he disappeared tomorrow, we would remain as we are.”
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on June 16, 2018, 10:38:39 PM
Croatia are playing Nigeria in Kaliningrad. Until 1945 it was a German city, in Prussia, called Königsberg. Nobody talks about Prussia any more.

And nobody talks about Bulgaria on the news anymore.
Any time the Wombles come up they do
Nicely done
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Syferus on June 16, 2018, 10:41:40 PM
One of the centres for group matches is Volgograd.  It was known in Ww2 as Stalingrad, where the Nazis ran into a wall.

The Soviets won the war but the cost was unbearable.

http://www.nybooks.com/daily/2015/10/12/svetlana-alexievich-truth-many-voices/

"She also very quickly explained that the fault lay not with one man but with the experiences of Soviet generations, now reworked for new wars. When she listed the fake descriptions of events in Ukraine in the Russian media, she spoke of Russian society as a “collective Putin.” As she put it, “Putin placed his bet on the basest instincts and won. Even if he disappeared tomorrow, we would remain as we are.”

Did you know Russia used to be a communist country, Sea?
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: laoislad on June 16, 2018, 10:43:26 PM
How about ye take yer shite to another thread and leave this one for the football.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Baile an tuaigh on June 16, 2018, 10:47:20 PM
A little uncouth but I agree with you I'm glad the European Coutries are doing well.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on June 16, 2018, 10:50:27 PM
How about ye take yer shite to another thread and leave this one for the football.

What he said.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: hardstation on June 16, 2018, 10:51:20 PM
How about ye take yer shite to another thread and leave this one for the football.
One of the best things about the World Cup is supporting one team over the other in every fixture due to your perception of each country’s historical deeds & alignments.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Syferus on June 16, 2018, 10:53:04 PM
How about ye take yer shite to another thread and leave this one for the football.
One of the best things about the World Cup is supporting one team over the other in every fixture due to your perception of each country’s historical deeds & alignments.

This is a very wee six mindset to have.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: mouview on June 16, 2018, 10:56:38 PM
Can’t understand the narrative that Iceland deserved a point. They just packed the defence and hacked it out all second half. At least Argentina tried to play the right way, passed it around and created what few chances there were.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: hardstation on June 16, 2018, 10:58:32 PM
How about ye take yer shite to another thread and leave this one for the football.
One of the best things about the World Cup is supporting one team over the other in every fixture due to your perception of each country’s historical deeds & alignments.

This is a very wee six mindset to have.
Gives me an interest. Otherwise, a team from far away are playing a team from far away. This match is being played far away.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Syferus on June 16, 2018, 11:01:07 PM
How about ye take yer shite to another thread and leave this one for the football.
One of the best things about the World Cup is supporting one team over the other in every fixture due to your perception of each country’s historical deeds & alignments.

This is a very wee six mindset to have.
Gives me an interest. Otherwise, a team from far away are playing a team from far away. This match is being played far away.

I like watching good football. Apart from England losing I have no skin in the game.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: hardstation on June 16, 2018, 11:04:53 PM
How about ye take yer shite to another thread and leave this one for the football.
One of the best things about the World Cup is supporting one team over the other in every fixture due to your perception of each country’s historical deeds & alignments.

This is a very wee six mindset to have.
Gives me an interest. Otherwise, a team from far away are playing a team from far away. This match is being played far away.

I like watching good football. Apart from England losing I have no skin in the game.
(Faux-)Emotional involvement isn’t as bad as it sounds. It’s actually very enjoyable IMO.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: sid waddell on June 17, 2018, 12:42:24 AM
Can’t understand the narrative that Iceland deserved a point. They just packed the defence and hacked it out all second half. At least Argentina tried to play the right way, passed it around and created what few chances there were.
I hope Iceland get smashed in their remaining two games.

They've had their 15 minutes, it's now time for them to fook off and take their hoofball with them.

Norway were great craic when they were beating England back in 1993 but they soon became an absolute blight on international football.

Iceland are no different in that regard.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Syferus on June 17, 2018, 12:53:47 AM
Can’t understand the narrative that Iceland deserved a point. They just packed the defence and hacked it out all second half. At least Argentina tried to play the right way, passed it around and created what few chances there were.
I hope Iceland get smashed in their remaining two games.

They've had their 15 minutes, it's now time for them to fook off and take their hoofball with them.

Norway were great craic when they were beating England back in 1993 but they soon became an absolute blight on international football.

Iceland are no different in that regard.

It’s more than a bit rich for an Irishman to be complaining about this stuff.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: sid waddell on June 17, 2018, 01:00:12 AM
Can’t understand the narrative that Iceland deserved a point. They just packed the defence and hacked it out all second half. At least Argentina tried to play the right way, passed it around and created what few chances there were.
I hope Iceland get smashed in their remaining two games.

They've had their 15 minutes, it's now time for them to fook off and take their hoofball with them.

Norway were great craic when they were beating England back in 1993 but they soon became an absolute blight on international football.

Iceland are no different in that regard.

It’s more than a bit rich for an Irishman to be complaining about this stuff.
How so?
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Dougal Maguire on June 17, 2018, 03:27:38 AM
Can’t understand the narrative that Iceland deserved a point. They just packed the defence and hacked it out all second half. At least Argentina tried to play the right way, passed it around and created what few chances there were.
I hope Iceland get smashed in their remaining two games.

They've had their 15 minutes, it's now time for them to fook off and take their hoofball with them.

Norway were great craic when they were beating England back in 1993 but they soon became an absolute blight on international football.

Iceland are no different in that regard.
Not often I agree with you, but you're on the mark with this one
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Dougal Maguire on June 17, 2018, 03:29:29 AM
How about ye take yer shite to another thread and leave this one for the football.
One of the best things about the World Cup is supporting one team over the other in every fixture due to your perception of each country’s historical deeds & alignments.
I know you're on the wind up, but where did you stand on DenmarkV Peru and why?
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Jell 0 Biafra on June 17, 2018, 03:57:36 AM
Can’t understand the narrative that Iceland deserved a point. They just packed the defence and hacked it out all second half. At least Argentina tried to play the right way, passed it around and created what few chances there were.

Can't understand the idea that they didn't deserve the point.  They executed their game plan almost perfectly and denied Argentina the space to cause much damage.  An exceptionally well organized defense, and decent enough on the break.  Well worth their point, and I hope not to have to watch them again.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: gawa316 on June 17, 2018, 05:51:07 AM
What exactly are they supposed to do? I just read their right back makes salt for a living for f**ks sake!
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: hardstation on June 17, 2018, 09:45:23 AM
How about ye take yer shite to another thread and leave this one for the football.
One of the best things about the World Cup is supporting one team over the other in every fixture due to your perception of each country’s historical deeds & alignments.
I know you're on the wind up, but where did you stand on DenmarkV Peru and why?
Peru obviously. Danish bastids raped and pillaged their way through Ireland.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Syferus on June 17, 2018, 09:56:40 AM
Can’t understand the narrative that Iceland deserved a point. They just packed the defence and hacked it out all second half. At least Argentina tried to play the right way, passed it around and created what few chances there were.

Can't understand the idea that they didn't deserve the point.  They executed their game plan almost perfectly and denied Argentina the space to cause much damage.  An exceptionally well organized defense, and decent enough on the break.  Well worth their point, and I hope not to have to watch them again.

They gave away two clear penalties, one called and one ignored. Hard to say they deserved the result in that context.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Orchard park on June 17, 2018, 11:17:25 AM
Can’t understand the narrative that Iceland deserved a point. They just packed the defence and hacked it out all second half. At least Argentina tried to play the right way, passed it around and created what few chances there were.
I hope Iceland get smashed in their remaining two games.

They've had their 15 minutes, it's now time for them to fook off and take their hoofball with them.

Norway were great craic when they were beating England back in 1993 but they soon became an absolute blight on international football.

Iceland are no different in that regard.
Not often I agree with you, but you're on the mark with this one


Kinda like RoI under Jackie's army
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on June 17, 2018, 11:49:03 AM
Kerr is on commentary for Costa Rica and Serbia today, should make it worth watching.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Farrandeelin on June 17, 2018, 11:53:23 AM
Croatia are playing Nigeria in Kaliningrad. Until 1945 it was a German city, in Prussia, called Königsberg. Nobody talks about Prussia any more.

Bismarck must be turning in his grave.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: BennyCake on June 17, 2018, 12:22:00 PM
Croatia are playing Nigeria in Kaliningrad. Until 1945 it was a German city, in Prussia, called Königsberg. Nobody talks about Prussia any more.

Yeah but that stadium is sinking apparently. Won't be in use long.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Targetman on June 17, 2018, 12:48:43 PM
Peter Collins is a ringer for Nigel Farage!
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Dougal Maguire on June 17, 2018, 01:08:07 PM
How about ye take yer shite to another thread and leave this one for the football.
One of the best things about the World Cup is supporting one team over the other in every fixture due to your perception of each country’s historical deeds & alignments.
I know you're on the wind up, but where did you stand on DenmarkV Peru and why?
Peru obviously. Danish bastids raped and pillaged their way through Ireland.
Excellent response. There's no arguing with that one
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: BennyCake on June 17, 2018, 01:50:15 PM
How about ye take yer shite to another thread and leave this one for the football.
One of the best things about the World Cup is supporting one team over the other in every fixture due to your perception of each country’s historical deeds & alignments.
I know you're on the wind up, but where did you stand on DenmarkV Peru and why?
Peru obviously. Danish bastids raped and pillaged their way through Ireland.

Is this the Viking raids around 900AD or Eriksen and Co at Landsdowne Road last autumn?
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Jell 0 Biafra on June 17, 2018, 03:22:48 PM
Can’t understand the narrative that Iceland deserved a point. They just packed the defence and hacked it out all second half. At least Argentina tried to play the right way, passed it around and created what few chances there were.

Can't understand the idea that they didn't deserve the point.  They executed their game plan almost perfectly and denied Argentina the space to cause much damage.  An exceptionally well organized defense, and decent enough on the break.  Well worth their point, and I hope not to have to watch them again.

They gave away two clear penalties, one called and one ignored. Hard to say they deserved the result in that context.
And the keeper saved the one that was called. That's part of deserving it.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: hardstation on June 17, 2018, 03:24:22 PM
How about ye take yer shite to another thread and leave this one for the football.
One of the best things about the World Cup is supporting one team over the other in every fixture due to your perception of each country’s historical deeds & alignments.
I know you're on the wind up, but where did you stand on DenmarkV Peru and why?
Peru obviously. Danish bastids raped and pillaged their way through Ireland.
Excellent response. There's no arguing with that one
I know.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: hardstation on June 17, 2018, 03:25:19 PM
How about ye take yer shite to another thread and leave this one for the football.
One of the best things about the World Cup is supporting one team over the other in every fixture due to your perception of each country’s historical deeds & alignments.
I know you're on the wind up, but where did you stand on DenmarkV Peru and why?
Peru obviously. Danish bastids raped and pillaged their way through Ireland.

Is this the Viking raids around 900AD or Eriksen and Co at Landsdowne Road last autumn?
Obviously the Viking raids. As if the latter is really important.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: laoislad on June 17, 2018, 04:22:18 PM
Good game this. End to end stuff so far. Mexico giving it a good go against the Germans.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: BennyCake on June 17, 2018, 04:24:58 PM
How about ye take yer shite to another thread and leave this one for the football.
One of the best things about the World Cup is supporting one team over the other in every fixture due to your perception of each country’s historical deeds & alignments.
I know you're on the wind up, but where did you stand on DenmarkV Peru and why?
Peru obviously. Danish bastids raped and pillaged their way through Ireland.

Is this the Viking raids around 900AD or Eriksen and Co at Landsdowne Road last autumn?
Obviously the Viking raids. As if the latter is really important.

It is to some people.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: laoislad on June 17, 2018, 04:46:24 PM
Excellent first half. Mexico fully deserve their lead also.
Can't see them keeping that sort of pace up for the full game though.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: SHEEDY on June 17, 2018, 04:50:45 PM
Excellent first half. Mexico fully deserve their lead also.
Can't see them keeping that sort of pace up for the full game though.
mexico should be at least 2 up. Germany all over the place at times.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 17, 2018, 04:55:03 PM
Haven’t seen much from the Germans to suggest they will win the match! Would need to improve by a good margin
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Main Street on June 17, 2018, 06:40:35 PM
Can’t understand the narrative that Iceland deserved a point. They just packed the defence and hacked it out all second half. At least Argentina tried to play the right way, passed it around and created what few chances there were.
I hope Iceland get smashed in their remaining two games.

They've had their 15 minutes, it's now time for them to fook off and take their hoofball with them.

Norway were great craic when they were beating England back in 1993 but they soon became an absolute blight on international football.

Iceland are no different in that regard.
Not often I agree with you, but you're on the mark with this one
The 3 stoogies! The penny has dropped that Argentina, world cup finalist last time,  have  infinitly better players than Iceland? you guys deserve a certificate of punditry ::)  Fortunately the Iceland coach was of the same opinion

 Now football should only be played a certain way for the entertainment values of the 3 sofa stoogies who it appears know fck all about intl football, fck all about tactics and the value of the unbreakable united team ethic.
Iceland topped  their WC qual group by playing better football than and at the same time beating Croatia, Ukriane and Turkey. According to you morons they should now just fook off then?  ;D
 Too many times Iceland tried to play the ball out of defence on the ground in the 2nd half, stringing 5 or 6 passes before being dissposed by the likes of Messi et al, class players who have totally dominated much better players/teams than Iceland. The siege in the 2nd half  at times was not much different than Barca making Man u look like a pub team at the Wembley CL final or making Arsenal look bedraggled  everytime they met, or Barca trying to break though a Chelsea parked bus.  I suppose by the stoogie criteria of the beautiful game, all those teams should have fooked off the stage?
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: SHEEDY on June 17, 2018, 06:56:37 PM
Can’t understand the narrative that Iceland deserved a point. They just packed the defence and hacked it out all second half. At least Argentina tried to play the right way, passed it around and created what few chances there were.
I hope Iceland get smashed in their remaining two games.

They've had their 15 minutes, it's now time for them to fook off and take their hoofball with them.

Norway were great craic when they were beating England back in 1993 but they soon became an absolute blight on international football.

Iceland are no different in that regard.
Not often I agree with you, but you're on the mark with this one
The 3 stoogies! The penny has dropped that Argentina, world cup finalist last time,  have  infinitly better players than Iceland? you guys deserve a certificate of punditry ::)  Fortunately the Iceland coach was of the same opinion

 Now football should only be played a certain way for the entertainment values of the 3 sofa stoogies who it appears know fck all about intl football, fck all about tactics and the value of the unbreakable united team ethic.
Iceland topped  their WC qual group by playing better football than and at the same time beating Croatia, Ukriane and Turkey. According to you morons they should now just fook off then?  ;D
 Too many times Iceland tried to play the ball out of defence on the ground in the 2nd half, stringing 5 or 6 passes before being dissposed by the likes of Messi et al, class players who have totally dominated much better players/teams than Iceland. The siege in the 2nd half  at times was not much different than Barca making Man u look like a pub team at the Wembley CL final or making Arsenal look bedraggled  everytime they met, or Barca trying to break though a Chelsea parked bus.  I suppose by the stoogie criteria of the beautiful game, all those teams should have fooked off the stage?
well said.  :)
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: sid waddell on June 17, 2018, 06:56:57 PM
Can’t understand the narrative that Iceland deserved a point. They just packed the defence and hacked it out all second half. At least Argentina tried to play the right way, passed it around and created what few chances there were.
I hope Iceland get smashed in their remaining two games.

They've had their 15 minutes, it's now time for them to fook off and take their hoofball with them.

Norway were great craic when they were beating England back in 1993 but they soon became an absolute blight on international football.

Iceland are no different in that regard.
Not often I agree with you, but you're on the mark with this one
The 3 stoogies! The penny has dropped that Argentina, world cup finalist last time,  have  infinitly better players than Iceland? you guys deserve a certificate of punditry ::)  Fortunately the Iceland coach was of the same opinion

 Now football should only be played a certain way for the entertainment values of the 3 sofa stoogies who it appears know fck all about intl football, fck all about tactics and the value of the unbreakable united team ethic.
Iceland topped  their WC qual group by playing better football than and at the same time beating Croatia, Ukriane and Turkey. According to you morons they should now just fook off then?  ;D
 Too many times Iceland tried to play the ball out of defence on the ground in the 2nd half, stringing 5 or 6 passes before being dissposed by the likes of Messi et al, class players who have totally dominated much better players/teams than Iceland. The siege in the 2nd half  at times was not much different than Barca making Man u look like a pub team at the Wembley CL final or making Arsenal look bedraggled  everytime they met, or Barca trying to break though a Chelsea parked bus.  I suppose by the stoogie criteria of the beautiful game, all those teams should have fooked off the stage?
You've completely missed the point, haven't you?

I don't expect Iceland to play any other way than the way they do. That's the only way for them to get results.

The point is, it's utterly septic to watch, just as Norway were in the 1990s, and it would be a disaster for the tournament were they to go through ahead of Argentina.

Something similar goes for the Swiss, who are consistently the most boring team to watch at major finals. Hopefully Brazil destroy them.








Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 17, 2018, 07:17:12 PM
Don’t watch it. Simples
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 17, 2018, 07:19:40 PM
What a strike!!!
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: seafoid on June 17, 2018, 08:09:27 PM
Unmared header. Tsk Tsk Brazil
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: gallsman on June 17, 2018, 08:30:42 PM
Clear shove in the back. Lee Dixon making a twat of himself saying "it's not a shove" and then "it was a little shove".

The two of them sounded awfully embarrassed when they announced that Clattenburg had said it shouldn't have stood.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Dougal Maguire on June 17, 2018, 08:51:45 PM
Can’t understand the narrative that Iceland deserved a point. They just packed the defence and hacked it out all second half. At least Argentina tried to play the right way, passed it around and created what few chances there were.
I hope Iceland get smashed in their remaining two games.

They've had their 15 minutes, it's now time for them to fook off and take their hoofball with them.

Norway were great craic when they were beating England back in 1993 but they soon became an absolute blight on international football.

Iceland are no different in that regard.
Not often I agree with you, but you're on the mark with this one
The 3 stoogies! The penny has dropped that Argentina, world cup finalist last time,  have  infinitly better players than Iceland? you guys deserve a certificate of punditry ::)  Fortunately the Iceland coach was of the same opinion

 Now football should only be played a certain way for the entertainment values of the 3 sofa stoogies who it appears know fck all about intl football, fck all about tactics and the value of the unbreakable united team ethic.
Iceland topped  their WC qual group by playing better football than and at the same time beating Croatia, Ukriane and Turkey. According to you morons they should now just fook off then?  ;D
 Too many times Iceland tried to play the ball out of defence on the ground in the 2nd half, stringing 5 or 6 passes before being dissposed by the likes of Messi et al, class players who have totally dominated much better players/teams than Iceland. The siege in the 2nd half  at times was not much different than Barca making Man u look like a pub team at the Wembley CL final or making Arsenal look bedraggled  everytime they met, or Barca trying to break though a Chelsea parked bus.  I suppose by the stoogie criteria of the beautiful game, all those teams should have fooked off the stage?
Is there any need to be so aggressive and insulting? 
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: under the bar on June 17, 2018, 08:58:43 PM
When you think of all the world class forwards who have led the line for Brazil at the World Cups and have become legends.  Doubtful if Firmino will be considered in the same light in years to come. ;)
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Capt Pat on June 17, 2018, 11:14:21 PM
When you think of all the world class forwards who have led the line for Brazil at the World Cups and have become legends.  Doubtful if Firmino will be considered in the same light in years to come. ;)

It was hardly his fault they didn't win he was only on for 10 minutes. Neymar did nothing in the whole 90 minutes
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Minder on June 17, 2018, 11:17:16 PM
When you think of all the world class forwards who have led the line for Brazil at the World Cups and have become legends.  Doubtful if Firmino will be considered in the same light in years to come. ;)

It was hardly his fault they didn't win he was only on for 10 minutes. Neymar did nothing in the whole 90 minutes

It’s just a bit of trying too hard trolling from a United fan
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: gawa316 on June 18, 2018, 12:26:17 AM
When you think of all the world class forwards who have led the line for Brazil at the World Cups and have become legends.  Doubtful if Firmino will be considered in the same light in years to come. ;)

It was hardly his fault they didn't win he was only on for 10 minutes. Neymar did nothing in the whole 90 minutes

It’s just a bit of trying too hard trolling from a United fan

The obsession level is off the chart. How do you watch that game and think, ‘I hate Liverpool so how will I try to slag them and their players off?’

Reminds me of the st gallbladder pup, whatever happened to that p***k?!
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Main Street on June 18, 2018, 12:38:15 AM
Can’t understand the narrative that Iceland deserved a point. They just packed the defence and hacked it out all second half. At least Argentina tried to play the right way, passed it around and created what few chances there were.
I hope Iceland get smashed in their remaining two games.

They've had their 15 minutes, it's now time for them to fook off and take their hoofball with them.

Norway were great craic when they were beating England back in 1993 but they soon became an absolute blight on international football.

Iceland are no different in that regard.
Not often I agree with you, but you're on the mark with this one
The 3 stoogies! The penny has dropped that Argentina, world cup finalist last time,  have  infinitly better players than Iceland? you guys deserve a certificate of punditry ::)  Fortunately the Iceland coach was of the same opinion

 Now football should only be played a certain way for the entertainment values of the 3 sofa stoogies who it appears know fck all about intl football, fck all about tactics and the value of the unbreakable united team ethic.
Iceland topped  their WC qual group by playing better football than and at the same time beating Croatia, Ukriane and Turkey. According to you morons they should now just fook off then?  ;D
 Too many times Iceland tried to play the ball out of defence on the ground in the 2nd half, stringing 5 or 6 passes before being dissposed by the likes of Messi et al, class players who have totally dominated much better players/teams than Iceland. The siege in the 2nd half  at times was not much different than Barca making Man u look like a pub team at the Wembley CL final or making Arsenal look bedraggled  everytime they met, or Barca trying to break though a Chelsea parked bus.  I suppose by the stoogie criteria of the beautiful game, all those teams should have fooked off the stage?
You've completely missed the point, haven't you?

I don't expect Iceland to play any other way than the way they do. That's the only way for them to get results.

The point is, it's utterly septic to watch, just as Norway were in the 1990s, and it would be a disaster for the tournament were they to go through ahead of Argentina.

Something similar goes for the Swiss, who are consistently the most boring team to watch at major finals. Hopefully Brazil destroy them.
Sid, I have got the point spot on. You're a phony when it comes to football analysis and knowledge. Brazil didn't destroy Switzerland and haven't that football quality to do so. What you hope might happen in order to satisfy some couch potato fantasy perception of a make believe world of the beautiful football game is beyond even the management of the creator of the universe. Would you be the type of guy who noticed Iceland players swarming around Messi when he had the ball, but didn't notice when Argentina did the exact same to Gisli Sig whenever he had the ball at his feet? 
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: sid waddell on June 18, 2018, 01:02:13 AM
Can’t understand the narrative that Iceland deserved a point. They just packed the defence and hacked it out all second half. At least Argentina tried to play the right way, passed it around and created what few chances there were.
I hope Iceland get smashed in their remaining two games.

They've had their 15 minutes, it's now time for them to fook off and take their hoofball with them.

Norway were great craic when they were beating England back in 1993 but they soon became an absolute blight on international football.

Iceland are no different in that regard.
Not often I agree with you, but you're on the mark with this one
The 3 stoogies! The penny has dropped that Argentina, world cup finalist last time,  have  infinitly better players than Iceland? you guys deserve a certificate of punditry ::)  Fortunately the Iceland coach was of the same opinion

 Now football should only be played a certain way for the entertainment values of the 3 sofa stoogies who it appears know fck all about intl football, fck all about tactics and the value of the unbreakable united team ethic.
Iceland topped  their WC qual group by playing better football than and at the same time beating Croatia, Ukriane and Turkey. According to you morons they should now just fook off then?  ;D
 Too many times Iceland tried to play the ball out of defence on the ground in the 2nd half, stringing 5 or 6 passes before being dissposed by the likes of Messi et al, class players who have totally dominated much better players/teams than Iceland. The siege in the 2nd half  at times was not much different than Barca making Man u look like a pub team at the Wembley CL final or making Arsenal look bedraggled  everytime they met, or Barca trying to break though a Chelsea parked bus.  I suppose by the stoogie criteria of the beautiful game, all those teams should have fooked off the stage?
You've completely missed the point, haven't you?

I don't expect Iceland to play any other way than the way they do. That's the only way for them to get results.

The point is, it's utterly septic to watch, just as Norway were in the 1990s, and it would be a disaster for the tournament were they to go through ahead of Argentina.

Something similar goes for the Swiss, who are consistently the most boring team to watch at major finals. Hopefully Brazil destroy them.
Sid, I have got the point spot on. You're a phony when it comes to football analysis and knowledge. Brazil didn't destroy Switzerland and haven't that football quality to do so. What you hope might happen in order to satisfy some couch potato fantasy perception of a make believe world of the beautiful football game is beyond even the management of the creator of the universe. Would you be the type of guy who noticed Iceland players swarming around Messi when he had the ball, but didn't notice when Argentina did the exact same to Gisli Sig whenever he had the ball at his feet?
The only couch potato make believe artist here is yourself. You have a very active imagination, I'll give you that.

Fair play to the Swiss, they're generally dreadful to watch but at least (and unlike Iceland) they had a right go tonight and actually attacked Brazil, which made the game interesting.

Counter attacking football can be very good to watch. Hoofball, like Iceland, Ireland and Norway in the 90s play/ed, is not.

Maybe you think Manchester United's performances against Sevilla were good to watch too?








Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 18, 2018, 07:58:50 AM
When you think of all the world class forwards who have led the line for Brazil at the World Cups and have become legends.  Doubtful if Firmino will be considered in the same light in years to come. ;)

It was hardly his fault they didn't win he was only on for 10 minutes. Neymar did nothing in the whole 90 minutes

It’s just a bit of trying too hard trolling from a United fan

The obsession level is off the chart. How do you watch that game and think, ‘I hate Liverpool so how will I try to slag them and their players off?’

Reminds me of the st gallbladder pup, whatever happened to that p***k?!

Jesus lad, a lot of anger there. You need time off
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: seafoid on June 18, 2018, 09:02:00 AM
Belgium are quite high in the FIFA rankings

https://www.fifa.com/fifa-world-ranking/ranking-table/men/index.html
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: north_antrim_hound on June 18, 2018, 10:23:40 AM
Did they find the sniper that kept shooting at naymar last night. In fairness he kept getting up and played on. That lad is as hard as nails.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: gawa316 on June 18, 2018, 02:26:29 PM


Jesus lad, a lot of anger there. You need time off

No anger at all lad.

Do you disagree with anything I said? Oh and what about Joe Cole, you never did reply to that?
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: trailer on June 18, 2018, 05:02:10 PM
Absolute unit playing CH for Panama. Looks like a rugby league player rather than a soccer player.

Belgium playing a bit shite. 
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: trailer on June 18, 2018, 05:08:35 PM
Tidy finish that
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: J70 on June 18, 2018, 05:10:21 PM
Controlled it nicely, catching it perfectly on the laces.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: trailer on June 18, 2018, 05:12:03 PM
Panama will do well to finish this game with the full compliment. Physical.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: trailer on June 18, 2018, 05:30:37 PM
Lukaku the goal machine 2 zip.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: shark on June 18, 2018, 06:11:55 PM
Lukaku the goal machine 2 zip.

https://www.theplayerstribune.com/en-us/articles/romelu-lukaku-ive-got-some-things-to-say

Just came across this. Very uplifting.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Oraisteach on June 18, 2018, 06:20:59 PM
So, I wonder how many on here are hoping for an England defeat and how many want a win. I hope they win, even though their commentators are unbearable.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: laoislad on June 18, 2018, 06:23:50 PM
Lukaku the goal machine 2 zip.

https://www.theplayerstribune.com/en-us/articles/romelu-lukaku-ive-got-some-things-to-say

Just came across this. Very uplifting.
Read that earlier. Thought it was great to be honest. Fair play to him.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Syferus on June 18, 2018, 06:36:01 PM
So, I wonder how many on here are hoping for an England defeat and how many want a win. I hope they win, even though their commentators are unbearable.

I want a nice impriessive win today to get their hopes up and then a slow slide to a comprehensive defeat in the L16/QFs.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: sid waddell on June 18, 2018, 06:40:49 PM
Perhaps the greatest thing on the internet.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzxpc0pyqrs
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: seafoid on June 18, 2018, 07:24:39 PM
So, I wonder how many on here are hoping for an England defeat and how many want a win. I hope they win, even though their commentators are unbearable.
The only decent England effort I remember seeing was Bobby Robson ''s 1990 team who reached the semis.
I would like to see them doing well this time. The usual suspects are not very interesting. 
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: hardstation on June 18, 2018, 07:25:46 PM
Panama will do well to finish this game with the full compliment. Physical.
Not physical enough. Should have laid it into thon hoors.

England missing some chances.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on June 18, 2018, 07:33:42 PM
Oh dear...
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Cunny Funt on June 18, 2018, 07:34:28 PM
Some awful stupid defending by Walker there.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Syferus on June 18, 2018, 07:35:18 PM
England have managed to go through their full WC routine of hope to despair in 30 minutes this year..
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: JPGJOHNNYG on June 18, 2018, 07:35:57 PM
f**k me england should be about 4-0 up. Walker is twit
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on June 18, 2018, 07:43:46 PM
Ali is hobbling about. Why is he still on??
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: From the Bunker on June 18, 2018, 07:46:49 PM
Ali is hobbling about. Why is he still on??

Because it's nearly half time and they'll have 15 minutes to assess the situation.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: manfromdelmonte on June 18, 2018, 07:48:48 PM
f**k me england should be about 4-0 up. Walker is twit
No proper left back
And that Sterling fella who just falls over his own feet
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: seafoid on June 18, 2018, 07:51:11 PM
https://www.theguardian.com/football/live/2018/jun/18/tunisia-v-england-world-cup-2018-live-updates

25 min: “I think one important difference right now is that Spurs are good,” Matthew Turner says. “Man City are good. Liverpool are good. And they all employ a chest-out, collective, attacking football. That means England are flush with players who have confidence and want to play. And there are some Manchester United players too.”
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: JPGJOHNNYG on June 18, 2018, 07:55:29 PM
Lingard could have wrapped up the golden boot by half time. Lost count how many good chances he had.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Capt Pat on June 18, 2018, 08:02:33 PM
England looked like they could win by about 10 when they went one nil up but the fact is it is 1-1 at half time. The game still has to be won.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Dougal Maguire on June 18, 2018, 08:03:50 PM
Great to hear them crying over the Kane 'penalty'
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: shark on June 18, 2018, 08:06:34 PM
Great to hear them crying over the Kane 'penalty'

You can hardly blame them, it was a clear foul.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Asal Mor on June 18, 2018, 08:12:21 PM
Great to hear them crying over the Kane 'penalty'

You can hardly blame them, it was a clear foul.
And another one. So much for VAR.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on June 18, 2018, 08:24:38 PM
They're fouling us in the box.

It's too warm.

They fall over too easily.

Key points from bbc commentary.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: JPGJOHNNYG on June 18, 2018, 08:28:10 PM
They're fouling us in the box.

It's too warm.

They fall over too easily.

Key points from bbc commentary.

Ha noted that as well. At least sterling has gone he is absolute garbage in an england shirt
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: michaelg on June 18, 2018, 08:29:22 PM
They're fouling us in the box.

It's too warm.

They fall over too easily.

Key points from bbc commentary.
Every f**ker in this tournament falls over too easily. So many nothing fouls in every game.  Makes it shit to watch.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Shamrock Shore on June 18, 2018, 08:31:35 PM
Least they're not blaming midges.....yet.

England so short of invention.

"Send her victorious

Home on the next Airbus"
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Dougal Maguire on June 18, 2018, 08:33:15 PM
Just sorry that Uber crier Mark Lawrenson isn’t in the commentary box
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Asal Mor on June 18, 2018, 08:36:48 PM
They're fouling us in the box.

It's too warm.

They fall over too easily.

Key points from bbc commentary.

Ha noted that as well. At least sterling has gone he is absolute garbage in an england shirt
In fairness, the ref + VAR have ridden them. We'd be whinging too.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: michaelg on June 18, 2018, 08:37:24 PM
Just sorry that Uber crier Mark Lawrenson isn’t in the commentary box
Could have sworn he was Irish.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Captain Obvious on June 18, 2018, 08:38:08 PM
Is it a bit too soon to say England won't be winning this World cup?
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on June 18, 2018, 08:38:54 PM
Just sorry that Uber crier Mark Lawrenson isn’t in the commentary box
Could have sworn he was Irish.

Sure Keown Irish too.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Wildweasel74 on June 18, 2018, 08:42:41 PM
England are very much poor quality as usual, some decent players in that team and a few donkeys! Never understood what how some good players for their clubs go to shite with an England Jersey team on them!!
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Cunny Funt on June 18, 2018, 08:48:14 PM
England are very much poor quality as usual, some decent players in that team and a few donkeys! Never understood what how some good players for their clubs go to shite with an England Jersey team on them!!
A lot of poor to average managers unable to get the best out of their players. Who seriously thinks Gareth Southgate is good enough for this level of management?

Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: hardstation on June 18, 2018, 08:50:30 PM
How’d that dick end up giving away that corner?
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Captain Obvious on June 18, 2018, 08:50:50 PM
Goal for England name on trophy?
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Wildweasel74 on June 18, 2018, 08:51:04 PM
Ah Fergie time
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: michaelg on June 18, 2018, 08:53:01 PM
How’d that dick end up giving away that corner?
They have been playing that way all night. Much prefer defenders putting the laces through it!
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: shark on June 18, 2018, 08:53:04 PM
Ah Fergie time

I don’t think the 92nd minute has ever been described as Fergie time before.  ;D
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: seafoid on June 18, 2018, 08:53:13 PM
Maguire to Kane. Cavan or Fermanagh to Connemara
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on June 18, 2018, 08:54:24 PM
England are very much poor quality as usual, some decent players in that team and a few donkeys! Never understood what how some good players for their clubs go to shite with an England Jersey team on them!!

You could see the confidence draining from some of the more decent players as the game went on. Half decent players but badly organised.

Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Asal Mor on June 18, 2018, 08:54:53 PM
Loftus Cheek made a big difference when he came on. Maguire was their best player imo. Great finish from Harry.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: thewobbler on June 18, 2018, 08:58:06 PM
England need rid of Young and Lindgard to progress.

There is genuinely no point in playing 3 Centre halves unless your wing backs provide proper width. The amount of times tonight big Maguire cane steaming out of defence with the ball, slips it to Young, who steps and goes backwards. Offers nothing. Lingard is a passenger. He doesn’t have the creative impact required to be that unwilling to get involved.

Sterling not in Rashford’s league. Not even close.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Wildweasel74 on June 18, 2018, 08:58:51 PM
Bandwagon up and running! I keep it on the road for 3 weeks roll up to the quarters! Start taking about going all the way, get their hopes up! I And crash out on penalties against a underdog
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Wildweasel74 on June 18, 2018, 09:05:23 PM
On the game reviews. Kane should had 3 penalties, he was getting assaulted in the BOX@REF must been blind!
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Asal Mor on June 18, 2018, 09:06:49 PM
England need rid of Young and Lindgard to progress.

There is genuinely no point in playing 3 Centre halves unless your wing backs provide proper width. The amount of times tonight big Maguire cane steaming out of defence with the ball, slips it to Young, who steps and goes backwards. Offers nothing. Lingard is a passenger. He doesn’t have the creative impact required to be that unwilling to get involved.

Sterling not in Rashford’s league. Not even close.
Rashford improved things too but wtf was he doing dummying that chance?
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: shark on June 18, 2018, 09:10:32 PM
England need rid of Young and Lindgard to progress.

There is genuinely no point in playing 3 Centre halves unless your wing backs provide proper width. The amount of times tonight big Maguire cane steaming out of defence with the ball, slips it to Young, who steps and goes backwards. Offers nothing. Lingard is a passenger. He doesn’t have the creative impact required to be that unwilling to get involved.

Sterling not in Rashford’s league. Not even close.

The width is an easy fix though, just bring in Rose.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: gallsman on June 18, 2018, 09:17:07 PM
England need rid of Young and Lindgard to progress.

There is genuinely no point in playing 3 Centre halves unless your wing backs provide proper width. The amount of times tonight big Maguire cane steaming out of defence with the ball, slips it to Young, who steps and goes backwards. Offers nothing. Lingard is a passenger. He doesn’t have the creative impact required to be that unwilling to get involved.

Sterling not in Rashford’s league. Not even close.
Rashford improved things too but wtf was he doing dummying that chance?

Think he got a shout as the way he reacted to Lingard (?) ballsing it up suggested he'd have preferred to take it on himself.

Agree that RLC was very good when he came on. Didn't even know he was in the squad.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Capt Pat on June 18, 2018, 11:39:12 PM
England did their best to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. They were dominant in the first half yet changed their approach in the second half and nearly squandereed the game. However the Tunisians were so bad at defending set pieces they handed the English victory.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Asal Mor on June 18, 2018, 11:48:00 PM
England did their best to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. They were dominant in the first half yet changed their approach in the second half and nearly squandereed the game. However the Tunisians were so bad at defending set pieces they handed the English victory.
I thought they looked very tired after half-time and weren't able to keep pressing the Tunisians as they had in the first half. They only got a bit of a second wind when the subs came on.

I thought the ref +VAR did their best to gift the Tunisians a draw, rather than the English throwing it away,  though the woeful finishing(Kane aside), especially from Lingard is something they won't get away with later in the Tournament.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: sid waddell on June 19, 2018, 12:19:43 AM
Second would be a great place for England to end up in this group.

There's a real chance of the draw opening up for them.

They should be able to stroll through the rest of the group without much pressure and a draw against Belgium for a second place finish would do them fine.

There's nothing particularly intimidating in Group H as regards possible last 16 ties.

Colombia would be tricky opponents but they're beatable. I'd fancy England against Poland or Senegal. If Mexico win Group F, there's a big chance England could reach a semi-final by going that route.

They have what a lot of teams in the tournament don't have - an out and out striker who is in-form.

Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Syferus on June 19, 2018, 12:22:52 AM
Second would be a great place for England to end up in this group.

There's a real chance of the draw opening up for them.

They should be able to stroll through the rest of the group without much pressure and a draw against Belgium for a second place finish would do them fine.

There's nothing particularly intimidating in Group H as regards possible last 16 ties.

Colombia would be tricky opponents but they're beatable. I'd fancy England against Poland or Senegal. If Mexico win Group F, there's a big chance England could reach a semi-final by going that route.

They have what a lot of teams in the tournament don't have - an out and out striker who is in-form.

Brazil, France, Spain, Portugal and Belgium have that too.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: sid waddell on June 19, 2018, 12:29:07 AM
Second would be a great place for England to end up in this group.

There's a real chance of the draw opening up for them.

They should be able to stroll through the rest of the group without much pressure and a draw against Belgium for a second place finish would do them fine.

There's nothing particularly intimidating in Group H as regards possible last 16 ties.

Colombia would be tricky opponents but they're beatable. I'd fancy England against Poland or Senegal. If Mexico win Group F, there's a big chance England could reach a semi-final by going that route.

They have what a lot of teams in the tournament don't have - an out and out striker who is in-form.

Brazil, France, Spain, Portugal and Belgium have that too.

Who is Brazil's in form out and out striker? Jesus is not in form and doesn't look up to it. Firmino is not currently first choice, is not an out and out striker and is at his best by doing the donkey work to create space for others.

As for Belgium's, he folds when the going gets tough.

Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Syferus on June 19, 2018, 01:14:14 AM
Second would be a great place for England to end up in this group.

There's a real chance of the draw opening up for them.

They should be able to stroll through the rest of the group without much pressure and a draw against Belgium for a second place finish would do them fine.

There's nothing particularly intimidating in Group H as regards possible last 16 ties.

Colombia would be tricky opponents but they're beatable. I'd fancy England against Poland or Senegal. If Mexico win Group F, there's a big chance England could reach a semi-final by going that route.

They have what a lot of teams in the tournament don't have - an out and out striker who is in-form.

Brazil, France, Spain, Portugal and Belgium have that too.

Who is Brazil's in form out and out striker? Jesus is not in form and doesn't look up to it. Firmino is not currently first choice, is not an out and out striker and is at his best by doing the donkey work to create space for others.

As for Belgium's, he folds when the going gets tough.

Has Harry Kane even won any trophies?
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: shark on June 19, 2018, 07:02:47 AM
Second would be a great place for England to end up in this group.

There's a real chance of the draw opening up for them.

They should be able to stroll through the rest of the group without much pressure and a draw against Belgium for a second place finish would do them fine.

There's nothing particularly intimidating in Group H as regards possible last 16 ties.

Colombia would be tricky opponents but they're beatable. I'd fancy England against Poland or Senegal. If Mexico win Group F, there's a big chance England could reach a semi-final by going that route.

They have what a lot of teams in the tournament don't have - an out and out striker who is in-form.

Brazil, France, Spain, Portugal and Belgium have that too.

Who is Brazil's in form out and out striker? Jesus is not in form and doesn't look up to it. Firmino is not currently first choice, is not an out and out striker and is at his best by doing the donkey work to create space for others.

As for Belgium's, he folds when the going gets tough.

Has Harry Kane even won any trophies?

It’s a team sport. His scoring record is superb.

However, history has shown that having an out and out scoring centre forward is not a prerequisite to winning the World Cup. For Ronaldo 2002, see Guivarc’h 1998.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: trailer on June 19, 2018, 08:56:24 AM
Did England create a chance after the break bar the goal? I can't remember one. They looked tired and out of ideas. Sterling a passenger.
Kane is the man, his finish for the 2nd wasn't easy. It would have been so easy to head that straight at the keeper. However, it's a win and they should kick on. Panama look well below this level. Belgium will provide a different test of course but one that as others have said they may not necessarily need to overcome.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: GJL on June 19, 2018, 09:04:19 AM
Second would be a great place for England to end up in this group.

There's a real chance of the draw opening up for them.

They should be able to stroll through the rest of the group without much pressure and a draw against Belgium for a second place finish would do them fine.

There's nothing particularly intimidating in Group H as regards possible last 16 ties.

Colombia would be tricky opponents but they're beatable. I'd fancy England against Poland or Senegal. If Mexico win Group F, there's a big chance England could reach a semi-final by going that route.

They have what a lot of teams in the tournament don't have - an out and out striker who is in-form.

I can see Belgium beating them convincingly. Much more talent in the Belgium team if they can gel together...
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: thewobbler on June 19, 2018, 09:10:51 AM
Second would be a great place for England to end up in this group.

There's a real chance of the draw opening up for them.

They should be able to stroll through the rest of the group without much pressure and a draw against Belgium for a second place finish would do them fine.

There's nothing particularly intimidating in Group H as regards possible last 16 ties.

Colombia would be tricky opponents but they're beatable. I'd fancy England against Poland or Senegal. If Mexico win Group F, there's a big chance England could reach a semi-final by going that route.

They have what a lot of teams in the tournament don't have - an out and out striker who is in-form.

I can see Belgium beating them convincingly. Much more talent in the Belgium team if they can gel together...

No doubt Belgium have 2-3 really top class players and a pretty useful first XI. Hence all these clever* people tipping them as underdogs.

But Chadli came on for them yesterday. He’d be lucky to make the Irish bench. So the depth isn’t there to change things up, or sustain the loss of starting players. Which is why they won’t win a World Cup, and a match vs England is effectively a coin toss. Especially so as Martinez is a f**king idiot.


* it never fails to amaze me how many people over the last 5 years, after having noticed that Hazard and De Bruyne hail from the same country, have taken to social media to proclaim Belgium as dark horses for everything. And always with an air of superior knowledge.

Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 19, 2018, 09:24:19 AM
A dark horse is simply a team that is not your usual suspects, Italy, Germany, Brazil, Spain, Argentina and France.. are fancied teams most years

Teams that are Dark horses some years are Holland, Belgium, Portugal, and dare I say it England, the fancied teams mainly because they have been there and done it, either recently or in the past on a number of occasions..

Whereas the dark horses ony have a team every so often, Belgium are that team this year for sure, providing they keep the first 11 fit..

I think most people would like to see a unfancied team win, well except the time Greece won the Euros! that was muck
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: magpie seanie on June 19, 2018, 09:32:45 AM
Watching last night I found it hard to cheer against England for once. There's no one on the team I really dislike and a few players I cheer for every week. The manager is as middle of the road and the exact centre of the white line in the middle of the road! Thought they started well but it took a set piece to break the deadlock. They then fluffed more chances and gave up a silly penalty which enegised Tunisia (who weren't all that bad to be fair). After that England played with more doubt and fear and Tunisia grew into the match. England were still dominant but nervy. Think they just about deserved their win as they we denied a couple of clear penalties (I'm convinced FIFA do not want VAR and are determined to make it fail).

As mentioned above, that balance of their team is wrong. I personally thought Alli and Sterling - great players at club level - were poor last night. Cannot understand how Rashford is not an automatic starter in that side. Someone criticised Lingard who missed a lot of chances but he's usually a good finisher and seems to have a knack for getting into the right place at the right time. Defensively though they look like an accident waiting to happen. Maguire is big and strong but looks ready to have his pocket picked all the time and there's no way Walker can play as part of a 3 at the back based on last night. Doesn't have the positional sense or awareness. Young is a stop gap full back. He'll give you 6 or 7 out of 10 and some good deliveries at times but he's not a natural defender and it shows at times. Trippier though was impressive.  Henderson is ho-hum but that's what he's supposed to be in this team to be fair.....him or Dier will do fine.

I don't think they're contenders but their recent record is good, they seem unusually devoid of egos, have a brilliant goalscorer and some excellent attackers. Can they sort the defence out especially for games where they'll be under more pressure/have less of the ball?
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: manfromdelmonte on June 19, 2018, 09:56:22 AM
problem for Belgium is their manager
completely out of his depth and thinks he knows it all.
who in their right mind would play three at the back when playing Panama?
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: JPGJOHNNYG on June 19, 2018, 09:56:42 AM
A dark horse is simply a team that is not your usual suspects, Italy, Germany, Brazil, Spain, Argentina and France.. are fancied teams most years

Teams that are Dark horses some years are Holland, Belgium, Portugal, and dare I say it England, the fancied teams mainly because they have been there and done it, either recently or in the past on a number of occasions..

Whereas the dark horses ony have a team every so often, Belgium are that team this year for sure, providing they keep the first 11 fit..

I think most people would like to see a unfancied team win, well except the time Greece won the Euros! that was muck

Greece winning was great because they were as limited as Ireland and it showed that with a bit of luck Ireland could go far too. Our big chance was 2002 and Spain did everything possible to hand us the match and we still couldnt take it.
England aren't great but the good news for them is there are not many good international teams about so if the draw opens up they could find themselves in a SF and then you never know.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: laoislad on June 19, 2018, 10:53:57 AM
Watching last night I found it hard to cheer against England for once. There's no one on the team I really dislike and a few players I cheer for every week. The manager is as middle of the road and the exact centre of the white line in the middle of the road!
I had myself convinced I wouldn't mind seeing England do well this year. Like yourself I don't mind most of their players and Southgate is a likeable sort of chap.
Yet when they scored the winner in injury time I found myself shouting obscenities and the TV. So maybe I don't really want them to do well after all  ;D
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: BennyCake on June 19, 2018, 10:55:19 AM
A dark horse is simply a team that is not your usual suspects, Italy, Germany, Brazil, Spain, Argentina and France.. are fancied teams most years

Teams that are Dark horses some years are Holland, Belgium, Portugal, and dare I say it England, the fancied teams mainly because they have been there and done it, either recently or in the past on a number of occasions..

Whereas the dark horses ony have a team every so often, Belgium are that team this year for sure, providing they keep the first 11 fit..

I think most people would like to see a unfancied team win, well except the time Greece won the Euros! that was muck

Greece winning was great because they were as limited as Ireland and it showed that with a bit of luck Ireland could go far too. Our big chance was 2002 and Spain did everything possible to hand us the match and we still couldnt take it.
England aren't great but the good news for them is there are not many good international teams about so if the draw opens up they could find themselves in a SF and then you never know.

I agree with that last bit. Worryingly.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: BennyCake on June 19, 2018, 10:58:06 AM
Watching last night I found it hard to cheer against England for once. There's no one on the team I really dislike and a few players I cheer for every week. The manager is as middle of the road and the exact centre of the white line in the middle of the road!
I had myself convinced I wouldn't mind seeing England do well this year. Like yourself I don't mind most of their players and Southgate is a likeable sort of chap.
Yet when they scored the winner in injury time I found myself shouting obscenities and the TV. So maybe I don't really want them to do well after all  ;D

I can't believe you actually doubted yourself  :o
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: sid waddell on June 19, 2018, 11:10:50 AM
Second would be a great place for England to end up in this group.

There's a real chance of the draw opening up for them.

They should be able to stroll through the rest of the group without much pressure and a draw against Belgium for a second place finish would do them fine.

There's nothing particularly intimidating in Group H as regards possible last 16 ties.

Colombia would be tricky opponents but they're beatable. I'd fancy England against Poland or Senegal. If Mexico win Group F, there's a big chance England could reach a semi-final by going that route.

They have what a lot of teams in the tournament don't have - an out and out striker who is in-form.

Brazil, France, Spain, Portugal and Belgium have that too.

Who is Brazil's in form out and out striker? Jesus is not in form and doesn't look up to it. Firmino is not currently first choice, is not an out and out striker and is at his best by doing the donkey work to create space for others.

As for Belgium's, he folds when the going gets tough.

Has Harry Kane even won any trophies?
What trophies had Maradona won before 1986?

Or, if you want to make a more pertinent comparison, what trophies had Gary Lineker won before 1986?
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Kurtz on June 19, 2018, 11:29:29 AM
Watching last night I found it hard to cheer against England for once. There's no one on the team I really dislike and a few players I cheer for every week. The manager is as middle of the road and the exact centre of the white line in the middle of the road!
I had myself convinced I wouldn't mind seeing England do well this year. Like yourself I don't mind most of their players and Southgate is a likeable sort of chap.
Yet when they scored the winner in injury time I found myself shouting obscenities and the TV. So maybe I don't really want them to do well after all  ;D

My friends were trolling England on Twitter by the 70th min
wayyy too soon which was hilarious
The look on their faces
I actually think that England team may fair better against likes of Belgium
Teams like Tunisia that park the bus seem to cause them problems
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: sid waddell on June 19, 2018, 11:40:40 AM
Watching last night I found it hard to cheer against England for once. There's no one on the team I really dislike and a few players I cheer for every week. The manager is as middle of the road and the exact centre of the white line in the middle of the road!
I had myself convinced I wouldn't mind seeing England do well this year. Like yourself I don't mind most of their players and Southgate is a likeable sort of chap.
Yet when they scored the winner in injury time I found myself shouting obscenities and the TV. So maybe I don't really want them to do well after all  ;D

My friends were trolling England on Twitter by the 70th min
wayyy too soon which was hilarious
The look on their faces
I actually think that England team may fair better against likes of Belgium
Teams like Tunisia that park the bus seem to cause them problems
Teams that park the bus at international level will almost always cause serious problems for their opponents, no matter who they are, even the very best.

Spain lost to Switzerland in 2010 despite the Swiss barely attacking in the whole game, and they then had to labouriously grind out four late 1-0 wins in the knockout stages.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on June 19, 2018, 12:38:02 PM
History has shown us that only 8 teams have won the World Cup. Of those 8 3 teams won it once. Of those 3 France and England were the home nations. Spain were the other team and had the Golden Age team. Uruguay won it twice as did Argentina and both were Home nation in one of them.  Argentina’s other win was the 1986 Maradona inspired team. Italy won it 4 times and are not there. So that leaves Germany with 4 and Brazil with 5. A ‘dark horse’ never wins it. Never. Ever. One may push on and get to the semis but history and logic would suggest that either of Brazil or Germany will win it. Perhaps France. Outside of that I wouldn’t be betting on anyone else.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: sid waddell on June 19, 2018, 12:45:31 PM
History has shown us that only 8 teams have won the World Cup. Of those 8 3 teams won it once. Of those 3 France and England were the home nations. Spain were the other team and had the Golden Age team. Uruguay won it twice as did Argentina and both were Home nation in one of them.  Argentina’s other win was the 1986 Maradona inspired team. Italy won it 4 times and are not there. So that leaves Germany with 4 and Brazil with 5. A ‘dark horse’ never wins it. Never. Ever. One may push on and get to the semis but history and logic would suggest that either of Brazil or Germany will win it. Perhaps France. Outside of that I wouldn’t be betting on anyone else.
Plenty of dark horses have won the European Championship.

Until 1998 history showed us that only six teams won the World Cup.

A "dark horse" will never win the World Cup, until it happens, which it will, sometime.

It's cup football.

Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: trailer on June 19, 2018, 12:56:59 PM
Only 2 teams have won a World cup outside of their own continent. Brazil and Spain (South Africa 2010)
Brazil don't look like a team that can do it. So it will be a European team. My money is on the Ze Germans. Or Belgium. Or England. No sorry definitely not England. 
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Keyser soze on June 19, 2018, 12:57:28 PM
History has shown us that only 8 teams have won the World Cup. Of those 8 3 teams won it once. Of those 3 France and England were the home nations. Spain were the other team and had the Golden Age team. Uruguay won it twice as did Argentina and both were Home nation in one of them.  Argentina’s other win was the 1986 Maradona inspired team. Italy won it 4 times and are not there. So that leaves Germany with 4 and Brazil with 5. A ‘dark horse’ never wins it. Never. Ever. One may push on and get to the semis but history and logic would suggest that either of Brazil or Germany will win it. Perhaps France. Outside of that I wouldn’t be betting on anyone else.

That would be the smart bet.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: seafoid on June 19, 2018, 01:02:27 PM
Only 2 teams have won a World cup outside of their own continent. Brazil and Spain (South Africa 2010)
Brazil don't look like a team that can do it. So it will be a European team. My money is on the Ze Germans. Or Belgium. Or England. No sorry definitely not England.
Germany 2014 too
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: hardstation on June 19, 2018, 01:05:20 PM
There’s been a hell of a lot of penalties!
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: trailer on June 19, 2018, 01:06:21 PM
Only 2 teams have won a World cup outside of their own continent. Brazil and Spain (South Africa 2010)
Brazil don't look like a team that can do it. So it will be a European team. My money is on the Ze Germans. Or Belgium. Or England. No sorry definitely not England.
Germany 2014 too

Yes of course, sorry. Point still stands it's very difficult to look outside of the 2 or 3 big teams. Germany, Spain, Brazil.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: JPGJOHNNYG on June 19, 2018, 01:31:32 PM
Only 2 teams have won a World cup outside of their own continent. Brazil and Spain (South Africa 2010)
Brazil don't look like a team that can do it. So it will be a European team. My money is on the Ze Germans. Or Belgium. Or England. No sorry definitely not England.
Germany 2014 too

Yes of course, sorry. Point still stands it's very difficult to look outside of the 2 or 3 big teams. Germany, Spain, Brazil.

After Cameroon 1990 wasnt an African team supposed to have won by now. The fact that Tunisia are the best team from the continent is rather worrying as they offered zip and should have been spanked about 5-0. If anything Africa has gone backwards after 28 yrs.
Germany may not even get out of the group. Can see Sweden winning 1-0 by scoring from a free kick or corner. Brazil and Argentina were poor so its there for the taking. As I said earlier England have a chance but expect them to go out on penalties in QF as usual to someone like Portugal.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: BennyCake on June 19, 2018, 02:14:40 PM
Not France. Deschamps is a dose.

It's still Germany for me, then Brazil, Spain or Portugal.

Just don't think Argentina or Uruguay have it in them, even with Messi and Suarez.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Kurtz on June 19, 2018, 02:19:04 PM
Only 2 teams have won a World cup outside of their own continent. Brazil and Spain (South Africa 2010)
Brazil don't look like a team that can do it. So it will be a European team. My money is on the Ze Germans. Or Belgium. Or England. No sorry definitely not England.
Germany 2014 too

Yes of course, sorry. Point still stands it's very difficult to look outside of the 2 or 3 big teams. Germany, Spain, Brazil.

After Cameroon 1990 wasnt an African team supposed to have won by now. The fact that Tunisia are the best team from the continent is rather worrying as they offered zip and should have been spanked about 5-0. If anything Africa has gone backwards after 28 yrs.
Germany may not even get out of the group. Can see Sweden winning 1-0 by scoring from a free kick or corner. Brazil and Argentina were poor so its there for the taking. As I said earlier England have a chance but expect them to go out on penalties in QF as usual to someone like Portugal.

I used to play in a league in London when I worked there
There was a Nigerian Team. Seriously gifted and athletic lads
They would play like Brazil for 30 minutes and then indiscipline and bad mistakes creep in.
leading them to lose the game.  By the end of the game they'd be fighting with themselves.
One guy even chased his team mate with a football boot at the final whistle
They had a reputation for starting strong and then falling apart
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: seafoid on June 19, 2018, 02:32:11 PM
Only 2 teams have won a World cup outside of their own continent. Brazil and Spain (South Africa 2010)
Brazil don't look like a team that can do it. So it will be a European team. My money is on the Ze Germans. Or Belgium. Or England. No sorry definitely not England.
Germany 2014 too

Yes of course, sorry. Point still stands it's very difficult to look outside of the 2 or 3 big teams. Germany, Spain, Brazil.
The Chermans are hardly going to win back to back world cups in fairness. Not even the Dubs could do that.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: hardstation on June 19, 2018, 02:34:10 PM
Only 2 teams have won a World cup outside of their own continent. Brazil and Spain (South Africa 2010)
Brazil don't look like a team that can do it. So it will be a European team. My money is on the Ze Germans. Or Belgium. Or England. No sorry definitely not England.
Germany 2014 too

Yes of course, sorry. Point still stands it's very difficult to look outside of the 2 or 3 big teams. Germany, Spain, Brazil.

After Cameroon 1990 wasnt an African team supposed to have won by now. The fact that Tunisia are the best team from the continent is rather worrying as they offered zip and should have been spanked about 5-0. If anything Africa has gone backwards after 28 yrs.
Germany may not even get out of the group. Can see Sweden winning 1-0 by scoring from a free kick or corner. Brazil and Argentina were poor so its there for the taking. As I said earlier England have a chance but expect them to go out on penalties in QF as usual to someone like Portugal.

I used to play in a league in London when I worked there
There was a Nigerian Team. Seriously gifted and athletic lads
They would play like Brazil for 30 minutes and then indiscipline and bad mistakes creep in.
leading them to lose the game.  By the end of the game they'd be fighting with themselves.
One guy even chased his team mate with a football boot at the final whistle
They had a reputation for starting strong and then falling apart
Are they in the World Cup?
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: north_antrim_hound on June 19, 2018, 03:05:51 PM
Only 2 teams have won a World cup outside of their own continent. Brazil and Spain (South Africa 2010)
Brazil don't look like a team that can do it. So it will be a European team. My money is on the Ze Germans. Or Belgium. Or England. No sorry definitely not England.
Germany 2014 too

Yes of course, sorry. Point still stands it's very difficult to look outside of the 2 or 3 big teams. Germany, Spain, Brazil.

After Cameroon 1990 wasnt an African team supposed to have won by now. The fact that Tunisia are the best team from the continent is rather worrying as they offered zip and should have been spanked about 5-0. If anything Africa has gone backwards after 28 yrs.
Germany may not even get out of the group. Can see Sweden winning 1-0 by scoring from a free kick or corner. Brazil and Argentina were poor so its there for the taking. As I said earlier England have a chance but expect them to go out on penalties in QF as usual to someone like Portugal.

I used to play in a league in London when I worked there
There was a Nigerian Team. Seriously gifted and athletic lads
They would play like Brazil for 30 minutes and then indiscipline and bad mistakes creep in.
leading them to lose the game.  By the end of the game they'd be fighting with themselves.
One guy even chased his team mate with a football boot at the final whistle
They had a reputation for starting strong and then falling apart

Given your username Where you thinking to yourself “ The Horror, the Horror”
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: sid waddell on June 19, 2018, 03:48:56 PM
As I said earlier England have a chance but expect them to go out on penalties in QF as usual to someone like Portugal.
England can't meet Portugal before the semis.

The semis will be two teams from Groups A to D and two teams from Groups E to H.

So it's impossible to have, say, all three of Brazil, Germany and England in the semis.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: AQMP on June 19, 2018, 05:01:02 PM
As I said earlier England have a chance but expect them to go out on penalties in QF as usual to someone like Portugal.
England can't meet Portugal before the semis.

The semis will be two teams from Groups A to D and two teams from Groups E to H.

So it's impossible to have, say, all three of Brazil, Germany and England in the semis.

I think I'm right in saying that if Brazil win their group and Germany finish 2nd in theirs, which is very possible at the moment, then Brazil and Germany would meet in the last 16.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: sid waddell on June 19, 2018, 06:13:31 PM
As I said earlier England have a chance but expect them to go out on penalties in QF as usual to someone like Portugal.
England can't meet Portugal before the semis.

The semis will be two teams from Groups A to D and two teams from Groups E to H.

So it's impossible to have, say, all three of Brazil, Germany and England in the semis.

I think I'm right in saying that if Brazil win their group and Germany finish 2nd in theirs, which is very possible at the moment, then Brazil and Germany would meet in the last 16.
All last 16 clashes are between teams in adjacent groups, ie. A1 v B2, B1 v A2, C1 v D2 and so on.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: SHEEDY on June 19, 2018, 06:26:16 PM
As I said earlier England have a chance but expect them to go out on penalties in QF as usual to someone like Portugal.
England can't meet Portugal before the semis.

The semis will be two teams from Groups A to D and two teams from Groups E to H.

So it's impossible to have, say, all three of Brazil, Germany and England in the semis.

I think I'm right in saying that if Brazil win their group and Germany finish 2nd in theirs, which is very possible at the moment, then Brazil and Germany would meet in the last 16.
its also possible at the minute that we could see france v argentina in the last 16.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Captain Obvious on June 19, 2018, 08:19:54 PM
Egypt have imploded
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 19, 2018, 08:20:51 PM
Salah should be sold now! He’s struggling
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Syferus on June 19, 2018, 08:27:21 PM
Russia for Sam.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: laoislad on June 19, 2018, 08:31:15 PM
Russia for Sam.
More chance of Russia winning it than Roscommon 
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: dec on June 19, 2018, 08:32:53 PM
Russia are officially the lowest ranked team in the tournament but because they didn't have to qualify they have only played friendlies for the last two years which keeps their rating down.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Syferus on June 19, 2018, 08:34:55 PM
Russia for Sam.
More chance of Russia winning it than Roscommon

Are Laois still in the championship? Seriously, though, I don’t take any notice of them at all. I hope the 50 of ye that care about football are doing well.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: laoislad on June 19, 2018, 08:39:01 PM
 ;D
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: BennyHarp on June 19, 2018, 09:05:03 PM
Why are the VAR refs wearing a full kit? Is John Terry the head of the Referees committee?
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: under the bar on June 19, 2018, 09:47:53 PM
Russia are officially the lowest ranked team in the tournament but because they didn't have to qualify they have only played friendlies for the last two years which keeps their rating down.

Liverpool were the lowest ranked team in the 2005 CL cos they were utter dog-shit.    Half a dozen perfected Stevie Me UDA-loving dives later and they win the thing.  Never say never.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Asal Mor on June 19, 2018, 09:50:30 PM
Why are the VAR refs wearing a full kit? Is John Terry the head of the Referees committee?
;D