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Title: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on January 02, 2018, 09:17:32 PM
If Division 2 can have a thread of its own then Division 1 should have one too.
Dublin to win comfortably, Jim Gavin was hurt losing it last year that is how he understood Mayo's pain. Kildare will struggle, everyone else will do well apart from the other relegated team.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: tippabu on January 02, 2018, 09:24:39 PM
If Division 2 can have a thread of its own then Division 1 should have one too.
Dublin to win comfortably, Jim Gavin was hurt losing it last year that is how he understood Mayo's pain. Kildare will struggle, everyone else will do well apart from the other relegated team.

Well said....close thread!!

Dubs will always be vulnerable in the league due to their holiday at this time and development squad playing o byrne cup so they are behind everyone else in terms of preparation. Agree that kildare will struggle, how many of their players will be missing due to moorefield? Donegal will need big improvenment too
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on January 02, 2018, 09:47:40 PM
If Division 2 can have a thread of its own then Division 1 should have one too.
Dublin to win comfortably, Jim Gavin was hurt losing it last year that is how he understood Mayo's pain. Kildare will struggle, everyone else will do well apart from the other relegated team.

Well said....close thread!!

Dubs will always be vulnerable in the league due to their holiday at this time and development squad playing o byrne cup so they are behind everyone else in terms of preparation. Agree that kildare will struggle, how many of their players will be missing due to moorefield? Donegal will need big improvenment too

No Moorefield players will be missed really, Mark Dempsey is on the panel but is only a year out of minor. Eanna O'Connor might get called back up again but he struggled in Division 3 two years ago. Aaron Masterson could get called up to the panel too but would be one for the future rather than now.

Our first game away to Dublin (we haven't had a home game against them in League or Championship in almost 23 years) is huge in that respect but even at 70% I can't see us beating them, we might take their 3rd team this year in the O'Byrne cup though. If we get a bit of luck and some confidence from these games could make a difference in the later rounds though.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Boycey on January 02, 2018, 09:58:01 PM
Monaghan must soon be due a trip back down through the ranks? We’re probably in better all round shape than in some previous years but in my opinion we’ve wasted a lot of energy by putting all our eggs in the ‘stay in div 1’ basket. A mid May Championship might change the focus this time..
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Beffs on January 02, 2018, 11:27:33 PM
If Division 2 can have a thread of its own then Division 1 should have one too.
Dublin to win comfortably, Jim Gavin was hurt losing it last year that is how he understood Mayo's pain. Kildare will struggle, everyone else will do well apart from the other relegated team.

Disagree that it's Dublin's to win comfortably. Last year showed how taking their hollier late, impacted their preparation for the league. They drew 3 games, that they were bloody lucky not to get bet in. Perhaps, other counties teams will see that now & will go after targeting the Dubs game for a win, when in previous campaigns they might have just thrown the towel in & presumed that a Dubs win was on the cards, even before a ball was thrown in.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on January 02, 2018, 11:31:26 PM
I'd say we should be odds on to go down. Good chance we won't have the Corofin players available at all and we have 6 first team players who will also miss the league campaign as they are all recovering from injuries. So we'll be missing 9/10 first team players give or take. Their places in the squad taken mainly by some of last year's U-21 team. A lot to expect young lads to hit the ground running in division 1. If they can sneak a few wins at home they might scrape by. Maybe.

Not sure we'll go all out to stay up either like Roscommon did a couple years ago. Mayo in May will still be the main focus I imagine.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: LooseCannon on January 02, 2018, 11:37:34 PM
If Division 2 can have a thread of its own then Division 1 should have one too.
Dublin to win comfortably, Jim Gavin was hurt losing it last year that is how he understood Mayo's pain. Kildare will struggle, everyone else will do well apart from the other relegated team.

Disagree that it's Dublin's to win comfortably. Last year showed how taking their hollier late, impacted their preparation for the league. They drew 3 games, that they were bloody lucky not to get bet in. Perhaps, other counties teams will see that now & will go after targeting the Dubs game for a win, when in previous campaigns they might have just thrown the towel in & presumed that a Dubs win was on the cards, even before a ball was thrown in.

Dublin aren’t back training yet though.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Captain Scarlet on January 02, 2018, 11:38:37 PM
Kerry to win it I reckon with Dublin in the Final. Holiday or not Dublin's younger lads will be baying to step up.

Donegal are getting lads back and it is a big year for both themselves and Tyrone. If they both go blooding lads, or trying new systems then they might be dragged down.
Monaghan have been kicking around with a small squad for a long time too and Galway could be erratic enough to be in the mix for the drop.
I am hopeful that Kildare will settle and that their core players will have learned a lot from last year. they are very young and I would worry for them most of all making the step up.

One thing in fairness the league isn't just the league as much anymore. Some cracking games last year in all the divisions. Croke Park Jan 27th...
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Beffs on January 02, 2018, 11:46:25 PM
If Division 2 can have a thread of its own then Division 1 should have one too.
Dublin to win comfortably, Jim Gavin was hurt losing it last year that is how he understood Mayo's pain. Kildare will struggle, everyone else will do well apart from the other relegated team.

Disagree that it's Dublin's to win comfortably. Last year showed how taking their hollier late, impacted their preparation for the league. They drew 3 games, that they were bloody lucky not to get bet in. Perhaps, other counties teams will see that now & will go after targeting the Dubs game for a win, when in previous campaigns they might have just thrown the towel in & presumed that a Dubs win was on the cards, even before a ball was thrown in.

Dublin aren’t back training yet though.

I know they're not. Not sure if I get your point.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: LooseCannon on January 03, 2018, 12:04:17 AM
If Division 2 can have a thread of its own then Division 1 should have one too.
Dublin to win comfortably, Jim Gavin was hurt losing it last year that is how he understood Mayo's pain. Kildare will struggle, everyone else will do well apart from the other relegated team.

Disagree that it's Dublin's to win comfortably. Last year showed how taking their hollier late, impacted their preparation for the league. They drew 3 games, that they were bloody lucky not to get bet in. Perhaps, other counties teams will see that now & will go after targeting the Dubs game for a win, when in previous campaigns they might have just thrown the towel in & presumed that a Dubs win was on the cards, even before a ball was thrown in.

Dublin aren’t back training yet though.

I know they're not. Not sure if I get your point.
Many other teams are. Dublin may be a bit rusty for the league.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Cunny Funt on January 03, 2018, 12:20:25 AM
I'd say we should be odds on to go down. Good chance we won't have the Corofin players available at all and we have 6 first team players who will also miss the league campaign as they are all recovering from injuries. So we'll be missing 9/10 first team players give or take. Their places in the squad taken mainly by some of last year's U-21 team. A lot to expect young lads to hit the ground running in division 1. If they can sneak a few wins at home they might scrape by. Maybe.

Not sure we'll go all out to stay up either like Roscommon did a couple years ago. Mayo in May will still be the main focus I imagine.

Has taken Galway a long time to get back to Div one and it would be awful waste if their stay there is just one year.

A relegation battle between Monaghan,Donegal,Kildare and Galway i can imagine while the other four Tyrone,Kerry,Mayo and Dublin will battle it out for a league final place.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Duine Eile on January 03, 2018, 12:40:22 AM
I'd say we should be odds on to go down. Good chance we won't have the Corofin players available at all and we have 6 first team players who will also miss the league campaign as they are all recovering from injuries. So we'll be missing 9/10 first team players give or take. Their places in the squad taken mainly by some of last year's U-21 team. A lot to expect young lads to hit the ground running in division 1. If they can sneak a few wins at home they might scrape by. Maybe.

Not sure we'll go all out to stay up either like Roscommon did a couple years ago. Mayo in May will still be the main focus I imagine.

Has taken Galway a long time to get back to Div one and it would be awful waste if their stay there is just one year.

A relegation battle between Monaghan,Donegal,Kildare and Galway i can imagine while the other four Tyrone,Kerry,Mayo and Dublin will battle it out for a league final place.

It would be a disaster to go straight back down but unfortunately it looks more likely than not, especially if the team named for the first FBD is anything to go by, the Corofin lads are more than likely going to be gone until the end of February at least along with the injured, more experienced lads it could be a very difficult league campaign for Galway.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Syferus on January 03, 2018, 01:27:45 AM
I’d be surprised if Galway stayed up even if they went all out. Unless Monaghan change their approach they’re a nasty side to play early in the year. Dublin’s league to win as usual but two of Mayo, Galway and Kildare will probably be going down.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: seafoid on January 03, 2018, 07:06:10 AM
Tyrone might get the drop.  They need a new model after last year. A lot of the players are not good enough . They won't win anything with the status quo.  Ulsters don't count.
It would be good to see Kildare staying up .
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: seafoid on January 03, 2018, 07:22:51 AM
Odds

https://www.oddschecker.com/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/nfl-division-1/winner

G and KE   are most popular relegation choices at
25/1 and 33/1 to win.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Dinny Breen on January 03, 2018, 09:47:51 AM
Good old Division 1 damned if you do damned if you don't. Ideal scenario for Kildare would be a 6th place finish including beating a stale Dublin first game up. The draw is kind with Monaghan and Tyrone at home after that Dublin away game, is it ever anywhere else, Kildare have also Mayo and Galway at home. So I predict we will stay up on 6 maybe 7 points. If O'Neill can keep Kildare up and discover 2 new defenders and another midfielder to compliment Feeley and Moolick it will be a very good league.

Kerry will win the league with Dublin missing out on the final, Tyrone will be runners-up.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: seafoid on January 03, 2018, 11:53:26 AM
Tyrone and Donegal could be dark.horses for relegation.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Captain Scarlet on January 03, 2018, 12:26:12 PM
Dinny from looking at the current panel the defence is where O´Neill is giving a lot of new faces a chance. It´s a case of Feely with AN Other in the middle and I imagine he will try to get a team settled ASAP and build on. I honestly think Luke Flynn is a great addition as a bastardy type at the back. Kevin Flynn is another who has serious pace at half back.

Galway lads here don't seem to confident so that isn´t a bad sign for a lad who wants his team to stay up...Depending on how Donegal settle and if they try any new systems- players it could make or break them.
Would any Donegal men be fearing the drop here?
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: tippabu on January 03, 2018, 12:29:04 PM
Tyrone and Donegal could be dark.horses for relegation.

Tyrone would be but donegal Id fully expect to be in the mix for relegation. Monaghan have always seemed to throw their lot into the league recently and championship has suffered for it, they may also struggle. For me theres a Divide between top 4 and bottom 4 in division 1, Dubs, Mayo, Kerry, Tyrone battling to win it they other 4 fighting to stay up
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Dinny Breen on January 03, 2018, 01:25:42 PM
Dinny from looking at the current panel the defence is where O´Neill is giving a lot of new faces a chance. It´s a case of Feely with AN Other in the middle and I imagine he will try to get a team settled ASAP and build on. I honestly think Luke Flynn is a great addition as a bastardy type at the back. Kevin Flynn is another who has serious pace at half back.

Galway lads here don't seem to confident so that isn´t a bad sign for a lad who wants his team to stay up...Depending on how Donegal settle and if they try any new systems- players it could make or break them.
Would any Donegal men be fearing the drop here?

Mikey Kelly has been Towers best player since the season they were relegated to Intermediate, has had to deal with a lot personally so I suspect he would have been in and committed before now otherwise. He's not slow, smart and is as hard as nails expect him to really challenge for corner back, Dempsey from Moorefield is highly rated too. I think we might have better defenders this year but if the system is not right and it never looks right we could be going down before we have even started.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: StephenC on January 03, 2018, 01:42:15 PM
Dinny from looking at the current panel the defence is where O´Neill is giving a lot of new faces a chance. It´s a case of Feely with AN Other in the middle and I imagine he will try to get a team settled ASAP and build on. I honestly think Luke Flynn is a great addition as a bastardy type at the back. Kevin Flynn is another who has serious pace at half back.

Galway lads here don't seem to confident so that isn´t a bad sign for a lad who wants his team to stay up...Depending on how Donegal settle and if they try any new systems- players it could make or break them.
Would any Donegal men be fearing the drop here?

Will be surprised if we don't get relegated. Murphy, McGlynn and McGlynn out for the first 3 league games. Will be good experience for the younger lads but the drop is likely.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Syferus on January 03, 2018, 02:09:37 PM
Tyrone and Donegal could be dark.horses for relegation.

Tyrone would be but donegal Id fully expect to be in the mix for relegation. Monaghan have always seemed to throw their lot into the league recently and championship has suffered for it, they may also struggle. For me theres a Divide between top 4 and bottom 4 in division 1, Dubs, Mayo, Kerry, Tyrone battling to win it they other 4 fighting to stay up

Mayo are one of the most vulnerable teams in D1 and have been for many years now. League should not be judged by championship placings.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on January 03, 2018, 02:49:03 PM
Galway lads here don't seem to confident so that isn´t a bad sign for a lad who wants his team to stay up...

The unavailability of some players and the injuries to others make it very difficult IMO. By my count I think we'll be missing the following players for most it not all the league campaign.

Bernard Power
Liam Silke
Gary Sice
Martin Farragher
Ian Burke
Gary O'Donnell
Fiontain O'Curraoin
Johnny Heaney
Danny Cummins
Michael Daly

Not ideal for a return to top flight football and that's before a ball has been kicked. I'm sure we'll lose a few more once the actual games start. Might do a Donegal from last year and the young players do just about enough in the early games to stay up but I'd be doubtful.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Duine Eile on January 03, 2018, 04:26:38 PM
Galway lads here don't seem to confident so that isn´t a bad sign for a lad who wants his team to stay up...

The unavailability of some players and the injuries to others make it very difficult IMO. By my count I think we'll be missing the following players for most it not all the league campaign.

Bernard Power
Liam Silke
Gary Sice
Martin Farragher Michael Farragher
Ian Burke
Gary O'Donnell
Fiontain O'Curraoin
Johnny Heaney
Danny Cummins
Michael Daly

Not ideal for a return to top flight football and that's before a ball has been kicked. I'm sure we'll lose a few more once the actual games start. Might do a Donegal from last year and the young players do just about enough in the early games to stay up but I'd be doubtful.

Micheál Lundy, Ronan Steede also. I'd love to see Kieran Molloy get a couple of runs for the seniors to see how he'd get on. Dylan Wall is another from Corofin who was excellent and might get the call when the club finishes up.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Maroon Manc on January 03, 2018, 05:10:41 PM
Galway lads here don't seem to confident so that isn´t a bad sign for a lad who wants his team to stay up...

The unavailability of some players and the injuries to others make it very difficult IMO. By my count I think we'll be missing the following players for most it not all the league campaign.

Bernard Power
Liam Silke
Gary Sice
Martin Farragher Michael Farragher
Ian Burke
Gary O'Donnell
Fiontain O'Curraoin
Johnny Heaney
Danny Cummins
Michael Daly

Not ideal for a return to top flight football and that's before a ball has been kicked. I'm sure we'll lose a few more once the actual games start. Might do a Donegal from last year and the young players do just about enough in the early games to stay up but I'd be doubtful.

Micheál Lundy, Ronan Steede also. I'd love to see Kieran Molloy get a couple of runs for the seniors to see how he'd get on. Dylan Wall is another from Corofin who was excellent and might get the call when the club finishes up.

Would be an excellent achievement to stay up given the circumstances. Expectations are too high on Kelly at full back too. I'd like to see Brannigan given a chance in the half back line but probably unlikely to happen.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: From the Bunker on January 03, 2018, 05:43:26 PM
Mayo having been living on the edge in both League and Championship under Roachford! Expect that to continue under Roachford. So expect a 4 to six points total survival - if we survive.


Although we ran Dublin close in the AI Final, I don't expect anything more from this group in the Championship! They are in decline. Giving 115% in last year AI Final and still 2 points away from beating Dublin proved this! Don't get wrong they will beat nearly every county in the country still except Dublin! That is worth shag all at this stage! They might get another Connacht, but that will be about it!

Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: J70 on January 03, 2018, 05:54:32 PM
Dinny from looking at the current panel the defence is where O´Neill is giving a lot of new faces a chance. It´s a case of Feely with AN Other in the middle and I imagine he will try to get a team settled ASAP and build on. I honestly think Luke Flynn is a great addition as a bastardy type at the back. Kevin Flynn is another who has serious pace at half back.

Galway lads here don't seem to confident so that isn´t a bad sign for a lad who wants his team to stay up...Depending on how Donegal settle and if they try any new systems- players it could make or break them.
Would any Donegal men be fearing the drop here?

Not fearing it as such (as in I wouldn't lose too much sleep over it), but I reckon we're good bets to go down.

Some main men will be missing for the first three or four games - Murphy, Neil McGee, Paddy McGrath, Frank McGlynn. Leo McLoone is not back yet. The Kilcar men were late back to training, but I don't know if they're going to miss any league action. Think Jason McGee has been out too.

No harm to give all these young lads some more action though, while Brian Mullins' son will get a run out at midfield. And hopefully we'll get away from the all-out defensive tactics and try to play a bit more openly. Let the chips fall where they may. Its not like we're an All Ireland or even very serious Ulster contender this year anyway.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Captain Obvious on January 03, 2018, 06:18:05 PM
So the expectation among supporters is that Kildare,Galway,Mayo,Donegal,Monaghan will get relegated but only two can...
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Captain Scarlet on January 03, 2018, 07:38:27 PM
It makes us all look shocking cagey!
Donegal men saying they might drop, Galway men saying they haven't a hope and Kildare lads getting in early to say we don't fancy staying up!
Div 2 was mad last year and so tight. Once it's not a case of one or two teams tanking then there won't be many complaints. Kildare would be looking to build and any game we lose, at least not be lying down.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: seafoid on January 03, 2018, 07:59:25 PM
It's a pity you can't short teams
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Fuzzman on January 05, 2018, 01:43:36 PM
I'll stick my neck out and be positive and say I think Tyrone could win the league this year.
I think we saw last year away to Kerry that they didn't really want to win it as there was no zip or fight in the last game of the season.

Looking at the fixtures this year we have a reasonably easy start away to Galway who seem to be missing half their team (by all accounts above) and then we've got the Dubs C team at home at the start of Feb which should be another BOO II (battle of Omagh) as we need to lay down a marker and the Dubs will be wary of getting injuries or suspensions.
Kildare and Monaghan away are next up with Mayo away probably our only hard game as we've Kerry at home on the last day of the year again to top the table.

It would be good to win a national title at this stage to give these lads a bit of belief that they are not just gonna plateau as a top 4 team and be happy with that.  I'd much rather win the league and lose our first round in Ulster than win nothing all year except another McKenna cup.

In a way big Sean going might help this team to wake up and start showing some leadership of their own.
Are any of the new lads worth watching?
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Syferus on January 05, 2018, 01:54:42 PM
First I’ve heard of Galway missing most of their team. Only a few of Corofin’s players are regular starters for them and they’re probably better off without a liability like Power in goal anyway.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: J70 on January 05, 2018, 01:55:34 PM
I'll stick my neck out and be positive and say I think Tyrone could win the league this year.
I think we saw last year away to Kerry that they didn't really want to win it as there was no zip or fight in the last game of the season.

Looking at the fixtures this year we have a reasonably easy start away to Galway who seem to be missing half their team (by all accounts above) and then we've got the Dubs C team at home at the start of Feb which should be another BOO II (battle of Omagh) as we need to lay down a marker and the Dubs will be wary of getting injuries or suspensions.
Kildare and Monaghan away are next up with Mayo away probably our only hard game as we've Kerry at home on the last day of the year again to top the table.

It would be good to win a national title at this stage to give these lads a bit of belief that they are not just gonna plateau as a top 4 team and be happy with that.  I'd much rather win the league and lose our first round in Ulster than win nothing all year except another McKenna cup.

In a way big Sean going might help this team to wake up and start showing some leadership of their own.
Are any of the new lads worth watching?

I know you hammered us last season but we don’t feature in your calculations? :P
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: From the Bunker on January 05, 2018, 02:04:22 PM
I'll stick my neck out and be positive and say I think Tyrone could win the league this year.
I think we saw last year away to Kerry that they didn't really want to win it as there was no zip or fight in the last game of the season.

Looking at the fixtures this year we have a reasonably easy start away to Galway who seem to be missing half their team (by all accounts above) and then we've got the Dubs C team at home at the start of Feb which should be another BOO II (battle of Omagh) as we need to lay down a marker and the Dubs will be wary of getting injuries or suspensions.
Kildare and Monaghan away are next up with Mayo away probably our only hard game as we've Kerry at home on the last day of the year again to top the table.

It would be good to win a national title at this stage to give these lads a bit of belief that they are not just gonna plateau as a top 4 team and be happy with that.  I'd much rather win the league and lose our first round in Ulster than win nothing all year except another McKenna cup.

In a way big Sean going might help this team to wake up and start showing some leadership of their own.
Are any of the new lads worth watching?

Every county in Division One did not want to play Dublin in the League Final away in Croker last year! Kerry ended up in the final by default and had a go and caught the Dubs. Tyrone are still in no-where land.  If Dublin throw their hat at the league, I'd expect Kerry to land another title!
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Maroon Manc on January 05, 2018, 02:06:41 PM
I'm expecting Galway to go down, far too many of the Corofin players missing and there's 5 lads out through injury leaves the panel looking very thin and then there's the goalie problem which doesn't seem any closer to been solved. Hoepfully we can find a few new players though, Sean Andy Kelly & Cooke both look ready to make the breakthrough.

I think Donegal will join Galway in been relegated although look at how conditioned Donegal were this time last year.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: galwayman on January 05, 2018, 02:48:53 PM
First I’ve heard of Galway missing most of their team. Only a few of Corofin’s players are regular starters for them and they’re probably better off without a liability like Power in goal anyway.
Power
Burke
O Curraoin
Heaney
O Donnell
Daly
Silke

That’s seven of the starting team from last year straight away.
The other Corofin lads like Sice and Lundy I don’t think will be starters anymore.
Though I reckon Kieran Molloy will see game time.
That’s a fair chunk of lads to be missing for your first division one campaign in a while.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Syferus on January 05, 2018, 04:06:45 PM
First I’ve heard of Galway missing most of their team. Only a few of Corofin’s players are regular starters for them and they’re probably better off without a liability like Power in goal anyway.
Power
Burke
O Curraoin
Heaney
O Donnell
Daly
Silke

That’s seven of the starting team from last year straight away.
The other Corofin lads like Sice and Lundy I don’t think will be starters anymore.
Though I reckon Kieran Molloy will see game time.
That’s a fair chunk of lads to be missing for your first division one campaign in a while.

FOC was dropped as a starter after he was flayed by Enda Smith in the CF.. it's very easy to get to half a team missing if every lad who started any old game is a considered a proper starter.

D1 is about application and work-rate more than anything else. If Galway have been training properly for it they can be competitive because the big teams treat it like a jolly up for the first few rounds. Tyrone aren't one of those teams so it's a bad draw getting them first, though.

My doubt is that Walsh isn't a good enough manager to get them right for a serious crack at it and will end up caught between two stools with the early summer meeting with Mayo also closing in.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: seafoid on January 05, 2018, 04:20:38 PM
I'll stick my neck out and be positive and say I think Tyrone could win the league this year.
I think we saw last year away to Kerry that they didn't really want to win it as there was no zip or fight in the last game of the season.

Looking at the fixtures this year we have a reasonably easy start away to Galway who seem to be missing half their team (by all accounts above) and then we've got the Dubs C team at home at the start of Feb which should be another BOO II (battle of Omagh) as we need to lay down a marker and the Dubs will be wary of getting injuries or suspensions.
Kildare and Monaghan away are next up with Mayo away probably our only hard game as we've Kerry at home on the last day of the year again to top the table.

It would be good to win a national title at this stage to give these lads a bit of belief that they are not just gonna plateau as a top 4 team and be happy with that.  I'd much rather win the league and lose our first round in Ulster than win nothing all year except another McKenna cup.

In a way big Sean going might help this team to wake up and start showing some leadership of their own.
Are any of the new lads worth watching?

https://youtu.be/7OrLroFa0AI

But it might need more than tinkering around the edges
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: galwayman on January 05, 2018, 04:39:01 PM
First I’ve heard of Galway missing most of their team. Only a few of Corofin’s players are regular starters for them and they’re probably better off without a liability like Power in goal anyway.
Power
Burke
O Curraoin
Heaney
O Donnell
Daly
Silke

That’s seven of the starting team from last year straight away.
The other Corofin lads like Sice and Lundy I don’t think will be starters anymore.
Though I reckon Kieran Molloy will see game time.
That’s a fair chunk of lads to be missing for your first division one campaign in a while.

FOC was dropped as a starter after he was flayed by Enda Smith in the CF.. it's very easy to get to half a team missing if every lad who started any old game is a considered a proper starter.

D1 is about application and work-rate more than anything else. If Galway have been training properly for it they can be competitive because the big teams treat it like a jolly up for the first few rounds. Tyrone aren't one of those teams so it's a bad draw getting them first, though.

My doubt is that Walsh isn't a good enough manager to get them right for a serious crack at it and will end up caught between two stools with the early summer meeting with Mayo also closing in.
If you’re going to try and come across as an authority on the Galway football team and be as pedantic as usual you might as well get your facts straight.
FOC was injured for the game after the Connacht final last year not dropped.
Who’s to know whether he would have been picked or not but he was unavailable for that game is the fact of the matter.
The other 6 players I mentioned above all started that game - so I’m hardky naming lads that started “any aul game” as you so eloquently put it.
There are other lads injured/unavailable who I didn’t name at all there who would be considered squad players - but losses all the same as our squad depth wouldn’t be hectic.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Rossfan on January 05, 2018, 04:56:52 PM
Arrah Galayman d'ya not know Syfīn is from Wonderland where things mean whatever he says they mean?
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Syferus on January 05, 2018, 05:17:02 PM
First I’ve heard of Galway missing most of their team. Only a few of Corofin’s players are regular starters for them and they’re probably better off without a liability like Power in goal anyway.
Power
Burke
O Curraoin
Heaney
O Donnell
Daly
Silke

That’s seven of the starting team from last year straight away.
The other Corofin lads like Sice and Lundy I don’t think will be starters anymore.
Though I reckon Kieran Molloy will see game time.
That’s a fair chunk of lads to be missing for your first division one campaign in a while.

FOC was dropped as a starter after he was flayed by Enda Smith in the CF.. it's very easy to get to half a team missing if every lad who started any old game is a considered a proper starter.

D1 is about application and work-rate more than anything else. If Galway have been training properly for it they can be competitive because the big teams treat it like a jolly up for the first few rounds. Tyrone aren't one of those teams so it's a bad draw getting them first, though.

My doubt is that Walsh isn't a good enough manager to get them right for a serious crack at it and will end up caught between two stools with the early summer meeting with Mayo also closing in.
If you’re going to try and come across as an authority on the Galway football team and be as pedantic as usual you might as well get your facts straight.
FOC was injured for the game after the Connacht final last year not dropped.
Who’s to know whether he would have been picked or not but he was unavailable for that game is the fact of the matter.
The other 6 players I mentioned above all started that game - so I’m hardky naming lads that started “any aul game” as you so eloquently put it.
There are other lads injured/unavailable who I didn’t name at all there who would be considered squad players - but losses all the same as our squad depth wouldn’t be hectic.

Don't bring your own biases into the discussion - I never said that. and if you want to say so please show me where I did.

Most teams can name a similar list of absentees to Galway's - I'd argue that in many of the positions the players you named there's a better young addition like Sean Andy or Cooke or another player of a similar quality such as Varley or Cummins so the difference is not going to be as clear cut as "half our team is missing!!" would appear at first glance.

It's a massive bugbear of mine that some supporters try to use it as a way to downplay what their team's standard for success should be. No county team isn't nursing between 5-10 injuries or absentees ever year.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: galwayman on January 05, 2018, 05:48:34 PM
First I’ve heard of Galway missing most of their team. Only a few of Corofin’s players are regular starters for them and they’re probably better off without a liability like Power in goal anyway.
Power
Burke
O Curraoin
Heaney
O Donnell
Daly
Silke

That’s seven of the starting team from last year straight away.
The other Corofin lads like Sice and Lundy I don’t think will be starters anymore.
Though I reckon Kieran Molloy will see game time.
That’s a fair chunk of lads to be missing for your first division one campaign in a while.

FOC was dropped as a starter after he was flayed by Enda Smith in the CF.. it's very easy to get to half a team missing if every lad who started any old game is a considered a proper starter.

D1 is about application and work-rate more than anything else. If Galway have been training properly for it they can be competitive because the big teams treat it like a jolly up for the first few rounds. Tyrone aren't one of those teams so it's a bad draw getting them first, though.

My doubt is that Walsh isn't a good enough manager to get them right for a serious crack at it and will end up caught between two stools with the early summer meeting with Mayo also closing in.
If you’re going to try and come across as an authority on the Galway football team and be as pedantic as usual you might as well get your facts straight.
FOC was injured for the game after the Connacht final last year not dropped.
Who’s to know whether he would have been picked or not but he was unavailable for that game is the fact of the matter.
The other 6 players I mentioned above all started that game - so I’m hardky naming lads that started “any aul game” as you so eloquently put it.
There are other lads injured/unavailable who I didn’t name at all there who would be considered squad players - but losses all the same as our squad depth wouldn’t be hectic.

Don't bring your own biases into the discussion - I never said that. and if you want to say so please show me where I did.

Most teams can name a similar list of absentees to Galway's - I'd argue that in many of the positions the players you named there's a better young addition like Sean Andy or Cooke or another player of a similar quality such as Varley or Cummins so the difference is not going to be as clear cut as "half our team is missing!!" would appear at first glance.

It's a massive bugbear of mine that some supporters try to use it as a way to downplay what their team's standard for success should be. No county team isn't nursing between 5-10 injuries or absentees ever year.
I never once said “half our team is missing”.
In response to other posts I merely listed the names of guys who could be considered first choice players that are/will be unavailable.
You’ll notice I didn’t include lads such as Cummins (who you mentioned in your post above) although he too is unavailable.
Look back through the thread - there is nobody phrasing it as “half our team is missing” except yourself.
I think pointing out that we will possibly struggle due to player absences in division one is a valid point to make in a thread about NFL Division 1!
There’s nobody making a drama out of it only yourself.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: ONeill on January 05, 2018, 09:34:56 PM
Will finish:
   
Dublin   
Kerry                     
Mayo   
Galway                  
Kildare
Tyrone                     
Monaghan                     
Donegal                  





Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: From the Bunker on January 13, 2018, 02:51:18 AM
Will finish:
   
Dublin   
Kerry                     
Mayo   
Galway                  
Kildare
Tyrone                     
Monaghan                     
Donegal

So after Dublin you rate the Provinces in the following order?

Munster
Connacht
Leinster
Ulster

Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: cornetto on January 14, 2018, 08:51:20 PM
Looking at the fixtures,as a galwayman I would realistically say we have a chance of 4pts and even that would be hard achieved.
Hope I am proven wrong

Division 1 Fixtures Sat 27.01.2018
Dublin v Kildare, Croke Park, 7.0

Sun 28.01.2018

Kerry v Donegal, Fitzgerald Stadium, Killarney, 2.0
Monaghan v Mayo, Clones, 2.0
Galway v Tyrone, Pearse Stadium, Salthill, 2.30

Sat 03.02.2018
Mayo v Kerry, Elverys MacHale Park, Castlebar, 7.0
Tyrone v Dublin, Omagh, 7.0

Sun 04.02.2018
Kildare v Monaghan, Newbridge, 2.0
Donegal v Galway, Letterkenny, 2.30

Sat 10.02.2018
Dublin v Donegal, Croke Park, 7.0

Sun 11.02.2018
Galway v Mayo, Pearse Stadium, Salthill, 2.0
Kildare v Tyrone, Newbridge, 2.0
Monaghan v Kerry, Inniskeen, 2.0

Sat 24.02.2018
Mayo v Dublin, Elverys MacHale Park, Castlebar, 7.0
Monaghan v Tyrone, Castleblayney, 7.0

Sun 25.02.2018
Donegal v Kildare, Ballyshannon, 2.0
Kerry v Galway, Austin Stack Park, Tralee, 2.30

Sat 03.03.2018
Dublin v Kerry, Croke Park, 7.0
Tyrone v Donegal, Healy Park, Omagh, 7.0

Sun 04.03.2018
Galway v Monaghan, Pearse Stadium, Salthill, 12.30
Kildare v Mayo, Newbridge, 2.0

Sat 17.03.2018
Kerry v Kildare, Austin Stack Park, Tralee, 7.0

Sun 18.03.2018
Galway v Dublin, Pearse Stadium, Salthill, 2.0
Mayo v Tyrone, Elverys MacHale Park, Castlebar, 2.0
Monaghan v Donegal, Clones, 2.0

Sun 25.03.2018
Donegal v Mayo, Ballybofey, 3.0
Dublin v Monaghan, Croke Park, 3.0
Kildare v Galway, Newbridge, 3.0
Tyrone v Kerry, Healy Park, Omagh, 3.0

Sun 01.04.2018
Final:

Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Il Bomber Destro on January 17, 2018, 07:20:30 PM
Live games on Eir Sports.

Saturday, January 27

5pm - Dublin v Offaly (H), eir sport 1
5pm - Cork v Tipperary (F), eir sport 2
7pm - Dublin v Kildare (F), eir sport 2
7pm - Cork v Kilkenny (H), eir sport 1

Saturday, February 3

7pm - Mayo v Kerry (F), eir sport 1
7pm - Tyrone v Dublin (F)(DEFERRED), eir sport 2
7pm - Tipperary v Waterford (H), eir sport 2

Saturday, February 10

7pm - Dublin v Donegal (F), eir sport 2
7pm - Cavan v Meath (F), eir sport 1

Saturday, February 17

7pm - Tipperary v Wexford (H), eir sport 2
7pm - Limerick v Dublin (H), eir sport 1

Saturday, February 24

7pm - Mayo v Dublin (F), eir sport 2
7pm - Monaghan v Tyrone (F), eir sport 1

Saturday, March 3

7pm - Dublin v Kerry (F), eir sport 2
7pm - Tyrone v Donegal (F), eir sport 1

Saturday, March 17

7pm - Kerry v Kildare (F), eir sport 2
7pm - Cork v Clare (F), eir sport 1
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Il Bomber Destro on January 17, 2018, 07:23:12 PM
I think Eir showed three games live last year simultaneously by using the HD channel so I think the Tyrone Dublin game will also be shown live as well.

Eir are brave expecting two games in Omagh to be playable on Saturday evenings this time of year.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: J70 on January 17, 2018, 08:59:30 PM
Live games on Eir Sports.

Saturday, January 27

5pm - Dublin v Offaly (H), eir sport 1
5pm - Cork v Tipperary (F), eir sport 2
7pm - Dublin v Kildare (F), eir sport 2
7pm - Cork v Kilkenny (H), eir sport 1

Saturday, February 3

7pm - Mayo v Kerry (F), eir sport 1
7pm - Tyrone v Dublin (F)(DEFERRED), eir sport 2
7pm - Tipperary v Waterford (H), eir sport 2

Saturday, February 10

7pm - Dublin v Donegal (F), eir sport 2
7pm - Cavan v Meath (F), eir sport 1

Saturday, February 17

7pm - Tipperary v Wexford (H), eir sport 2
7pm - Limerick v Dublin (H), eir sport 1

Saturday, February 24

7pm - Mayo v Dublin (F), eir sport 2
7pm - Monaghan v Tyrone (F), eir sport 1

Saturday, March 3

7pm - Dublin v Kerry (F), eir sport 2
7pm - Tyrone v Donegal (F), eir sport 1

Saturday, March 17

7pm - Kerry v Kildare (F), eir sport 2
7pm - Cork v Clare (F), eir sport 1

Think they need more Dublin games.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on January 18, 2018, 12:31:09 PM
Galway v Tyrone has been moved to Tuam.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Fuzzman on January 18, 2018, 02:10:51 PM
Yeah a right pain in the ass for a group of us coming from Dublin.
Besides getting a Bus Eireann but are there any other ways to get there
Do they have special buses laid on from Galway city?

Might hire a wee cheap car between 5 of us
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: mouview on January 18, 2018, 02:23:54 PM
Yeah a right pain in the ass for a group of us coming from Dublin.
Besides getting a Bus Eireann but are there any other ways to get there
Do they have special buses laid on from Galway city?

Might hire a wee cheap car between 5 of us

Tuam quite handy from Dublin now by road as you have the 2 motorways (much handier than driving through Galway city out to Pearse stadium in Salthill). None of you own a car between you?
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Fuzzman on January 18, 2018, 02:24:49 PM
We all do but not much good when youre down on the Sat night on the lash
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Il Bomber Destro on January 18, 2018, 06:49:21 PM
Galway v Tyrone has been moved to Tuam.

I know Omagh is susceptible to flooding at any sight of rain but from what I have seen of televised Corofin games, Tuam seems like an absolute death trap. There is a high concrete wall just a few feet away from the sideline that you'd worry will kill someone if they're milled over the line someday, the pitch looks like a field where the ball can't bounce and the grass is never cut.



Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Blowitupref on January 18, 2018, 07:05:42 PM
Galway v Tyrone has been moved to Tuam.
And the Hurling match Galway v Antrim stays in Pearse Stadium, clearly the decision has been made that no pitch in Galway can take a double header this time of year but the hurlers have got the better playing surface.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on January 18, 2018, 07:33:07 PM
Galway v Tyrone has been moved to Tuam.
And the Hurling match Galway v Antrim stays in Pearse Stadium, clearly the decision has been made that no pitch in Galway can take a double header this time of year but the hurlers have got the better playing surface.

Has barely stopped raining in Galway since Christmas. It's been extremely wet even for the west. Can understand why they made the decision but I had hoped to see both games.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: seafoid on January 18, 2018, 08:29:19 PM
2 years ago Tyrone won by 2. They got promoted and were full of beans but the Dubs cut them down last year. It will be interesting to see how it goes this year.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: galwayman on January 19, 2018, 08:54:36 AM
Galway v Tyrone has been moved to Tuam.
And the Hurling match Galway v Antrim stays in Pearse Stadium, clearly the decision has been made that no pitch in Galway can take a double header this time of year but the hurlers have got the better playing surface.
The surface in Pearse isn't better than the surface in Tuam in wet weather though.
The Tuam pitch handles rain better than Pearse does.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Fuzzman on January 19, 2018, 10:03:11 AM
I'm sure it sounds arrogant but I would expect Tyrone to win this handy enough.
I'd really like to see us go all out this year to win the league as these younger players, especially now with no senior AI medals in the team (or does McCarron have 2) need to start showing that they can eat at the top table and not just be happy to say they're a top 4 team.

Lets face it Dublin and Kerry dont really rate winning the league as a big deal any more but like to get to the final stages for match practice. I'd like to see Mickey Harte realise how much it would boost this team's confidence and belief in themselves is they really went for the league and not be so lethargic as in other years.

I expect them to be eating loads of beans next weekend. Does the team stay down on the Sat night? I wonder where?
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Maroon Manc on January 19, 2018, 11:50:23 AM
I'm sure it sounds arrogant but I would expect Tyrone to win this handy enough.
I'd really like to see us go all out this year to win the league as these younger players, especially now with no senior AI medals in the team (or does McCarron have 2) need to start showing that they can eat at the top table and not just be happy to say they're a top 4 team.

Lets face it Dublin and Kerry dont really rate winning the league as a big deal any more but like to get to the final stages for match practice. I'd like to see Mickey Harte realise how much it would boost this team's confidence and belief in themselves is they really went for the league and not be so lethargic as in other years.

I expect them to be eating loads of beans next weekend. Does the team stay down on the Sat night? I wonder where?


Will Tyrone be missing many players?
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Il Bomber Destro on January 19, 2018, 12:26:45 PM
I'm sure it sounds arrogant but I would expect Tyrone to win this handy enough.
I'd really like to see us go all out this year to win the league as these younger players, especially now with no senior AI medals in the team (or does McCarron have 2) need to start showing that they can eat at the top table and not just be happy to say they're a top 4 team.

Lets face it Dublin and Kerry dont really rate winning the league as a big deal any more but like to get to the final stages for match practice. I'd like to see Mickey Harte realise how much it would boost this team's confidence and belief in themselves is they really went for the league and not be so lethargic as in other years.

I expect them to be eating loads of beans next weekend. Does the team stay down on the Sat night? I wonder where?


Will Tyrone be missing many players?

Possibly the Moy duo of Colm Cavanagh and Harry Loughran but I'd say we'll be at full strength otherwise.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Maroon Manc on January 19, 2018, 12:41:17 PM
I'm sure it sounds arrogant but I would expect Tyrone to win this handy enough.
I'd really like to see us go all out this year to win the league as these younger players, especially now with no senior AI medals in the team (or does McCarron have 2) need to start showing that they can eat at the top table and not just be happy to say they're a top 4 team.

Lets face it Dublin and Kerry dont really rate winning the league as a big deal any more but like to get to the final stages for match practice. I'd like to see Mickey Harte realise how much it would boost this team's confidence and belief in themselves is they really went for the league and not be so lethargic as in other years.

I expect them to be eating loads of beans next weekend. Does the team stay down on the Sat night? I wonder where?


Will Tyrone be missing many players?

Possibly the Moy duo of Colm Cavanagh and Harry Loughran but I'd say we'll be at full strength otherwise.

Thats good going for this time year unfortunately no such luck for Galway who are missing Power, Silke, Farragher, O'Donnell, O'Currain, Armstrong, Lundy, Daly, Cummins & Burke.  You could add Molloy to that list as I'd have expected him to see plenty of game time . Thats 10/11 players missing out of a Galways best 21/22 players. Looking at it positively it gives someone else a chance but its hard to see anything other than a Tyrone win.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on January 20, 2018, 12:18:22 AM
TG4 coverage for the early rounds

Sunday 28 January

12:40pm   GAA Beo Coverage begins

Live match:  Clare v Tipperary, Live from Cusack Park, Ennis  (Allianz Hurling League, Round 1)  2pm throw-in

Deferred match:  Kerry v Donegal from Fitzgerald Stadium, Killarney


Sunday 4 February

1:30pm  GAA Beo Coverage begins

Live: Wexford v Cork, Live from Innovate Wexford Park

Deferred: Donegal v Galway from Letterkenny

Deferred: Kilkenny v Clare from Nowlan Park


Saturday 10 February

1:30pm   GAA Beo Coverage begins

Live coverage from the AIB All-Ireland Senior Club Hurling Championship Semi-Finals

Na Piarsaigh v Slaughtneil from Parnell Park (2pm throw-in)

Cuala v Liam Mellows from Semple Stadium (4pm throw-in)

 
Sunday 11 February

11:50am   GAA Beo coverage begins

Live:   Lidl Ladies National Football League Division 1 – Galway v Mayo, Live from Pearse Stadium (12pm throw-in)

Live:   Galway v Mayo, Allianz Football League, Round 3, Live from Pearse Stadium   (2pm throw-in)

Deferred:  Monaghan v Kerry from Iniskeen

Deferred:  Kildare v Tyrone from Newbridge

 

 



 

 



 

 
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Avondhu star on January 20, 2018, 12:44:18 AM
TG4 coverage for the early rounds

Sunday 28 January

12:40pm   GAA Beo Coverage begins

Live match:  Clare v Tipperary, Live from Cusack Park, Ennis  (Allianz Hurling League, Round 1)  2pm throw-in

Deferred match:  Kerry v Donegal from Fitzgerald Stadium, Killarney


Sunday 4 February

1:30pm  GAA Beo Coverage begins

Live: Wexford v Cork, Live from Innovate Wexford Park

Deferred: Donegal v Galway from Letterkenny

Deferred: Kilkenny v Clare from Nowlan Park


Saturday 10 February

1:30pm   GAA Beo Coverage begins

Live coverage from the AIB All-Ireland Senior Club Hurling Championship Semi-Finals

Na Piarsaigh v Slaughtneil from Parnell Park (2pm throw-in)

Cuala v Liam Mellows from Semple Stadium (4pm throw-in)

 
Sunday 11 February

11:50am   GAA Beo coverage begins

Live:   Lidl Ladies National Football League Division 1 – Galway v Mayo, Live from Pearse Stadium (12pm throw-in)

Live:   Galway v Mayo, Allianz Football League, Round 3, Live from Pearse Stadium   (2pm throw-in)

Deferred:  Monaghan v Kerry from Iniskeen

Deferred:  Kildare v Tyrone from Newbridge
A lot of good fixtures there. Hopefully no weather disruptions. It would be nice if players being interviewed after could make an effort to speak their native language
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: twohands!!! on January 20, 2018, 03:47:31 PM

A lot of good fixtures there. Hopefully no weather disruptions. It would be nice if players being interviewed after could make an effort to speak their native language

Native language generally refers to the language someone has been exposed to from birth. For the overwhelming majority of people in Ireland, this is English.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: larryin89 on January 21, 2018, 06:53:01 PM
Is there no bus eireann bus to clones?
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Mayo Border on January 21, 2018, 11:24:41 PM
Is there no bus eireann bus to clones?
Google it Larry
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: larryin89 on January 22, 2018, 05:24:48 AM
Cheers will do
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Farrandeelin on January 22, 2018, 10:07:38 AM
I reckon Div 1 will see Dublin, Kerry and Tyrone battling it out. Donegal will probably stay up. The remaining four will be dicing with relegation.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Avondhu star on January 22, 2018, 10:21:02 AM

A lot of good fixtures there. Hopefully no weather disruptions. It would be nice if players being interviewed after could make an effort to speak their native language

Native language generally refers to the language someone has been exposed to from birth. For the overwhelming majority of people in Ireland, this is English.
Do you really think that the majority of GAA supporters would agree with that English is their native language?
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: twohands!!! on January 22, 2018, 12:03:34 PM

A lot of good fixtures there. Hopefully no weather disruptions. It would be nice if players being interviewed after could make an effort to speak their native language

Native language generally refers to the language someone has been exposed to from birth. For the overwhelming majority of people in Ireland, this is English.
Do you really think that the majority of GAA supporters would agree with that English is their native language?

If they have a correct understanding of the meaning of the phrase native language is then yes.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Cunny Funt on January 22, 2018, 12:52:27 PM
I reckon Div 1 will see Dublin, Kerry and Tyrone battling it out. Donegal will probably stay up. The remaining four will be dicing with relegation.
Looking at the number of players Kerry will be missing for a good part of the league i think the will be battling it out at the other end of the table.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Lar Naparka on January 22, 2018, 02:02:41 PM

A lot of good fixtures there. Hopefully no weather disruptions. It would be nice if players being interviewed after could make an effort to speak their native language

Native language generally refers to the language someone has been exposed to from birth. For the overwhelming majority of people in Ireland, this is English.
Do you really think that the majority of GAA supporters would agree with that English is their native language?

In my experience, they certainly do.
The majority have a sentimental attachment to the Irish language and generally wish they had a better understanding of it but wouldn't take any positive steps, such as attending Irish language classes, improve their knowledge of the language.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Avondhu star on January 22, 2018, 08:22:21 PM

A lot of good fixtures there. Hopefully no weather disruptions. It would be nice if players being interviewed after could make an effort to speak their native language

Native language generally refers to the language someone has been exposed to from birth. For the overwhelming majority of people in Ireland, this is English.
Do you really think that the majority of GAA supporters would agree with that English is their native language?

In my experience, they certainly do.
The majority have a sentimental attachment to the Irish language and generally wish they had a better understanding of it but wouldn't take any positive steps, such as attending Irish language classes, improve their knowledge of the language.
I'd say your experience is very limited so.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Lar Naparka on January 23, 2018, 12:22:59 AM

A lot of good fixtures there. Hopefully no weather disruptions. It would be nice if players being interviewed after could make an effort to speak their native language

Native language generally refers to the language someone has been exposed to from birth. For the overwhelming majority of people in Ireland, this is English.
Do you really think that the majority of GAA supporters would agree with that English is their native language?

In my experience, they certainly do.
The majority have a sentimental attachment to the Irish language and generally wish they had a better understanding of it but wouldn't take any positive steps, such as attending Irish language classes, improve their knowledge of the language.
I'd say your experience is very limited so.
;D ;D ;D
Something tells me thatyou had a very sheltered upbringing, well removed from the realities of everyday strife and life.
Would I be correct in saying you went to a Gaelscoil or, worse still, a CB gulag institution?
Tell you what, if even one individual, on two legs or four, I'm not fussy, agrees with you, I'll rest my case.


BTW, I've nothing against the Gaelic language, once the national language of our ancestors, I'll rest my case.
Oh and while I am at it, I both speak and write Irish fluently.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: cornetto on January 23, 2018, 12:27:30 AM
League form is diverse for a lot of teams,trying out new players ,systems and the like.it is imperative(like that word) For the weaker teams Galway,kildare,to try & get as many points in the early rounds to have any chance of staying up.as a Galway man I can see us realistically getting 4pts and at that a big if! It would not be good to go down after 1yr but if it happens so be  it.
May 13 is the big one and I expect Galway to once again to have the measure of mayo.
But  mayo to go on as main connacht
challengers for all Ireland honours.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Ball Hopper on January 23, 2018, 12:46:11 AM
It is important do pick up as many points as possible at home.  Doing well at home should put any county toward the middle of the table.  Donegal, Kerry, Mayo, and Tyrone have three home games, while the others have four.  Mayo seem to have the toughest home schedule with Kerry, Dublin and Tyrone all going west of the Shannon this year.  If Kerry can avoid their usual poor league start against Donegal in Killarney, home points are expected from Galway and Kildare as well. 

Tyrone have three interesting home games as well.  For those tipping Donegal for relegation, note both Galway and Kildare will be visitors to the north west.

Is it better to have the stronger teams at home, especially in the early rounds?

Here is the list of teams home games...

Donegal 3 (Galway, Kildare, Mayo)
Dublin 4 (Kildare, Donegal, Kerry, Monaghan)

Galway 4 (Tyrone, Mayo, Monaghan, Dublin)
Kerry 3 (Donegal, Galway, Kildare)

Kildare 4 (Monaghan, Tyrone, Mayo, Galway)
Mayo 3 (Kerry, Dublin, Tyrone)

Monaghan 4 (Mayo, Kerry, Tyrone, Donegal)
Tyrone 3 (Dublin, Donegal, Kerry)
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Captain Obvious on January 23, 2018, 12:52:00 AM

Is it better to have the stronger teams at home, especially in the early rounds?

Yes as they won't be full strength in the early rounds.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: MayoBuck on January 23, 2018, 08:50:07 AM
It is important do pick up as many points as possible at home.  Doing well at home should put any county toward the middle of the table.  Donegal, Kerry, Mayo, and Tyrone have three home games, while the others have four.  Mayo seem to have the toughest home schedule with Kerry, Dublin and Tyrone all going west of the Shannon this year.  If Kerry can avoid their usual poor league start against Donegal in Killarney, home points are expected from Galway and Kildare as well. 

Tyrone have three interesting home games as well.  For those tipping Donegal for relegation, note both Galway and Kildare will be visitors to the north west.

Is it better to have the stronger teams at home, especially in the early rounds?

Here is the list of teams home games...

Donegal 3 (Galway, Kildare, Mayo)
Dublin 4 (Kildare, Donegal, Kerry, Monaghan)

Galway 4 (Tyrone, Mayo, Monaghan, Dublin)
Kerry 3 (Donegal, Galway, Kildare)

Kildare 4 (Monaghan, Tyrone, Mayo, Galway)
Mayo 3 (Kerry, Dublin, Tyrone)

Monaghan 4 (Mayo, Kerry, Tyrone, Donegal)
Tyrone 3 (Dublin, Donegal, Kerry)

Mayo's home from in the league over the last few years has been terrible so we're the exception to the rule.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: redhandefender on January 23, 2018, 11:39:11 AM
Looking forward to the Dubs in Omagh, can't see it have any relevance to later in the year but should be a good fiery occasion.

Saturday night game to so hopefully the towns hopping afterwards
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Maroon Manc on January 23, 2018, 12:28:42 PM
It is important do pick up as many points as possible at home.  Doing well at home should put any county toward the middle of the table.  Donegal, Kerry, Mayo, and Tyrone have three home games, while the others have four.  Mayo seem to have the toughest home schedule with Kerry, Dublin and Tyrone all going west of the Shannon this year.  If Kerry can avoid their usual poor league start against Donegal in Killarney, home points are expected from Galway and Kildare as well. 

Tyrone have three interesting home games as well.  For those tipping Donegal for relegation, note both Galway and Kildare will be visitors to the north west.

Is it better to have the stronger teams at home, especially in the early rounds?

Here is the list of teams home games...

Donegal 3 (Galway, Kildare, Mayo)
Dublin 4 (Kildare, Donegal, Kerry, Monaghan)

Galway 4 (Tyrone, Mayo, Monaghan, Dublin)
Kerry 3 (Donegal, Galway, Kildare)

Kildare 4 (Monaghan, Tyrone, Mayo, Galway)
Mayo 3 (Kerry, Dublin, Tyrone)

Monaghan 4 (Mayo, Kerry, Tyrone, Donegal)
Tyrone 3 (Dublin, Donegal, Kerry)

Mayo's home from in the league over the last few years has been terrible so we're the exception to the rule.

Galways form at home the last few years has been shocking in both championship and league.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Fuzzman on January 23, 2018, 12:38:53 PM
Yes RHD so am I or at least I was until I had my bubble burst a few back

For me I'd love to see this as a REAL chance to lay down a marker the way the Dubs did back in 2006 in the first BOO (Battle of Omagh)

Some might say so what if Tyrone lay into them and its only Dublin thirds but in my eyes this is a great opportunity to stand up and beat this team in a once off game rather than take this "Ahh sure its means nothing in February" attitude.

Yeah I'd love to see a feisty Sat night atmosphere with the crowd really getting behind the Dubs. The Dubs need to realise they can't just come up there and expect an easy game, even with their 3rd team.

I'll nearly hope Moy lose so we have Colm back for it.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: redhandefender on January 23, 2018, 12:59:03 PM
I wouldn't want to give Dublin any extra motivation should we meet down the line.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Captain Scarlet on January 23, 2018, 02:41:59 PM
I am being positive for now...Kildare by three. The main Dubs can't be fully right and would be on a later regime of tough training. Great chance for points on the board against a shower that will take them off most others.
What kind of team will Dublin field?
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: slippery dodger on January 23, 2018, 06:18:00 PM
2018 National Football League preview show
https://youtu.be/Y_X2pXaDUn0
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: seafoid on January 23, 2018, 06:49:39 PM
I wouldn't want to give Dublin any extra motivation should we meet down the line.
Tyrone used to have more of a fág an bealach attitude.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on January 23, 2018, 08:36:32 PM

What kind of team will Dublin field?

One that will still be comfortably better than Kildare's. Hopefully the Maynooth players conserved energy today as they were beat after a few minutes.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Cunny Funt on January 23, 2018, 08:49:29 PM
I am being positive for now...Kildare by three. The main Dubs can't be fully right and would be on a later regime of tough training. Great chance for points on the board against a shower that will take them off most others.
What kind of team will Dublin field?

Team they played in round 1 last year.

Stephen Cluxton
Michael Fitzsimons, Philip McMahon, Jack McCaffrey
James McCarthy John Small, Eric Lowndes
Brian Fenton  Michael Darragh Macauley
Ciaran Kilkenny Kevin McManamon  Paul Mannion
Dean Rock  Niall Scully Jason Whelan
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Beffs on January 23, 2018, 10:51:05 PM
Yes RHD so am I or at least I was until I had my bubble burst a few back

For me I'd love to see this as a REAL chance to lay down a marker the way the Dubs did back in 2006 in the first BOO (Battle of Omagh)

Some might say so what if Tyrone lay into them and its only Dublin thirds but in my eyes this is a great opportunity to stand up and beat this team in a once off game rather than take this "Ahh sure its means nothing in February" attitude.

Yeah I'd love to see a feisty Sat night atmosphere with the crowd really getting behind the Dubs. The Dubs need to realise they can't just come up there and expect an easy game, even with their 3rd team.

I'll nearly hope Moy lose so we have Colm back for it.

The Dubs never have an easy game up in Omagh, even when they play their A team. Dunno why you are assuming that they will expect an easy game, when they haven't had one before.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: redhandefender on January 23, 2018, 11:13:09 PM
I wouldn't want to give Dublin any extra motivation should we meet down the line.
Tyrone used to have more of a fág an bealach attitude.

Not saying that, harte will be trying to win it like, just think there may be  a more clever way to go about it this year
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Hound on January 24, 2018, 08:53:51 AM

Some might say so what if Tyrone lay into them and its only Dublin thirds but in my eyes this is a great opportunity to stand up and beat this team in a once off game rather than take this "Ahh sure its means nothing in February" attitude.

Yeah I'd love to see a feisty Sat night atmosphere with the crowd really getting behind the Dubs. The Dubs need to realise they can't just come up there and expect an easy game, even with their 3rd team.

I am being positive for now...Kildare by three. The main Dubs can't be fully right and would be on a later regime of tough training. Great chance for points on the board against a shower that will take them off most others.
What kind of team will Dublin field?

Team they played in round 1 last year.

Stephen Cluxton
Michael Fitzsimons, Philip McMahon, Jack McCaffrey
James McCarthy John Small, Eric Lowndes
Brian Fenton  Michael Darragh Macauley
Ciaran Kilkenny Kevin McManamon  Paul Mannion
Dean Rock  Niall Scully Jason Whelan

Certainly won't be Dubs 3rd team playing in the league. This should largely be the first team, although presumably there'll be plenty of rust to knock off in the first few games. Expect there to be 3 or 4 new faces given a chance. Shane Carthy (Nh Mearnog) who was around the fringes a couple of years ago is back and expected to challenge. Brian Howard (Raheny) another who could well get a start.

Be interesting to see where old stagers Macauley, Flynn and Brogan find themselves in the pecking order given they all have committed to go again. And of course the question of whether there is or isn't an issue between Gavin and Connolly.

Not many players will want to be rested as possession of the jersey tends to be important. Though not sure about the injury situation (apart from McCaffrey definitely being out). Any lad who has a niggle that needs resting won't be risked.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Avondhu star on January 24, 2018, 12:23:56 PM

A lot of good fixtures there. Hopefully no weather disruptions. It would be nice if players being interviewed after could make an effort to speak their native language

Native language generally refers to the language someone has been exposed to from birth. For the overwhelming majority of people in Ireland, this is English.
Do you really think that the majority of GAA supporters would agree with that English is their native language?

In my experience, they certainly do.
The majority have a sentimental attachment to the Irish language and generally wish they had a better understanding of it but wouldn't take any positive steps, such as attending Irish language classes, improve their knowledge of the language.
I'd say your experience is very limited so.
;D ;D ;D
Something tells me thatyou had a very sheltered upbringing, well removed from the realities of everyday strife and life.
Would I be correct in saying you went to a Gaelscoil or, worse still, a CB gulag institution?
Tell you what, if even one individual, on two legs or four, I'm not fussy, agrees with you, I'll rest my case.


BTW, I've nothing against the Gaelic language, once the national language of our ancestors, I'll rest my case.
Oh and while I am at it, I both speak and write Irish fluently.

Pity you have to trot out the old Christian Brothers cliché. You know f all-out them
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: tonto1888 on January 24, 2018, 12:33:29 PM

A lot of good fixtures there. Hopefully no weather disruptions. It would be nice if players being interviewed after could make an effort to speak their native language

Native language generally refers to the language someone has been exposed to from birth. For the overwhelming majority of people in Ireland, this is English.
Do you really think that the majority of GAA supporters would agree with that English is their native language?

In my experience, they certainly do.
The majority have a sentimental attachment to the Irish language and generally wish they had a better understanding of it but wouldn't take any positive steps, such as attending Irish language classes, improve their knowledge of the language.
I'd say your experience is very limited so.
;D ;D ;D
Something tells me thatyou had a very sheltered upbringing, well removed from the realities of everyday strife and life.
Would I be correct in saying you went to a Gaelscoil or, worse still, a CB gulag institution?
Tell you what, if even one individual, on two legs or four, I'm not fussy, agrees with you, I'll rest my case.


BTW, I've nothing against the Gaelic language, once the national language of our ancestors, I'll rest my case.
Oh and while I am at it, I both speak and write Irish fluently.

Pity you have to trot out the old Christian Brothers cliché. You know f all-out them

youre awful fond of making assumptions abut people
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: seafoid on January 24, 2018, 03:41:06 PM
I think Kildare and Galway might stay up . They both have a bit of momentum and some good younger players. I wouldn't be surprised if 2 Ulster teams were relegated. 
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Rossfan on January 24, 2018, 04:18:54 PM
Monaghan and Donegal presumably?
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: seafoid on January 24, 2018, 04:57:28 PM
Monaghan and Donegal presumably?
Yes. But Tyrone were filleted last year too. Any time Kilkenny delivered such a lesson to Galway the year after was not good 
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Captain Obvious on January 24, 2018, 05:29:08 PM
Monaghan and Donegal presumably?
Yes. But Tyrone were filleted last year too. Any time Kilkenny delivered such a lesson to Galway the year after was not good
As filleted as Dublin were after their championship defeats to Kerry and Tyrone in 2008,2009. Tyrone are a mainly young side that should only improve on the progress already made. Currently an established Div one team that regularly reach the last 4 of the championship something i'm sure a young Galway side would like to be in the years ahead.

Sooner or later Monaghan are going to lose their Div one status they have been punching above their weight under a top manager. Donegal are in transition and i'm not convinced Declan Bonner is the right manager to bring them through that transition.

Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: J70 on January 24, 2018, 08:06:16 PM
Monaghan and Donegal presumably?
Yes. But Tyrone were filleted last year too. Any time Kilkenny delivered such a lesson to Galway the year after was not good
As filleted as Dublin were after their championship defeats to Kerry and Tyrone in 2008,2009. Tyrone are a mainly young side that should only improve on the progress already made. Currently an established Div one team that regularly reach the last 4 of the championship something i'm sure a young Galway side would like to be in the years ahead.

Sooner or later Monaghan are going to lose their Div one status they have been punching above their weight under a top manager. Donegal are in transition and i'm not convinced Declan Bonner is the right manager to bring them through that transition.

Time will tell on Bonner. He’s done quite well with a good chunk of these players underage. And if Mullins builds on his early promise at midfield, we might even have the formidable duo of Murphy and McBrearty up front full time. Assuming Bonner gets away from the 14 man defense shite. Regardless, for me anyway, this year is just about making some progress and being competitive in Ulster. Super 8s would be an outstanding outcome, but I think we’d need to make the Ulster Final to have any chance of getting there. A couple of wins in Division 1 would be nice too, wherever we finish.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: southtyronegael on January 24, 2018, 08:34:39 PM
tyrone have been relegated twice in last 7 years. 2011 and 2015. dont be surprised if it happens again this year.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Cunny Funt on January 24, 2018, 08:48:51 PM
tyrone have been relegated twice in last 7 years. 2011 and 2015. dont be surprised if it happens again this year.
The odds would say it would be a big surprise if that was to happen this year.

 
To Be Relegated    

Kildare 8/11
Galway evens
Donegal 15/8
Monaghan 15/8
Mayo 11/4
Tyrone 5/1
Kerry 9/1
Dublin 25/1
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: seafoid on January 24, 2018, 08:54:05 PM
Monaghan and Donegal presumably?
Yes. But Tyrone were filleted last year too. Any time Kilkenny delivered such a lesson to Galway the year after was not good
As filleted as Dublin were after their championship defeats to Kerry and Tyrone in 2008,2009. Tyrone are a mainly young side that should only improve on the progress already made. Currently an established Div one team that regularly reach the last 4 of the championship something i'm sure a young Galway side would like to be in the years ahead.

Sooner or later Monaghan are going to lose their Div one status they have been punching above their weight under a top manager. Donegal are in transition and i'm not convinced Declan Bonner is the right manager to bring them through that transition.
The dubs had forwards.
Tyrone have shortages in that department. They also have notions. Galway don't.
Agree about Monaghan.

Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: southtyronegael on January 24, 2018, 08:56:18 PM
could be value in that 5/1. tyrone also only finished 3rd from bottom last year. no sean cavanagh this year and could be a few scars mentally after the dublin debacle last year.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: seafoid on January 24, 2018, 09:24:06 PM
If it was last year`s championship Mayo and Dublin would play the final and everyone else would be relegated
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Captain Obvious on January 24, 2018, 09:27:16 PM
Monaghan and Donegal presumably?
Yes. But Tyrone were filleted last year too. Any time Kilkenny delivered such a lesson to Galway the year after was not good
As filleted as Dublin were after their championship defeats to Kerry and Tyrone in 2008,2009. Tyrone are a mainly young side that should only improve on the progress already made. Currently an established Div one team that regularly reach the last 4 of the championship something i'm sure a young Galway side would like to be in the years ahead.

Sooner or later Monaghan are going to lose their Div one status they have been punching above their weight under a top manager. Donegal are in transition and i'm not convinced Declan Bonner is the right manager to bring them through that transition.
The dubs had forwards.
Tyrone have shortages in that department. They also have notions. Galway don't.
Agree about Monaghan.
I have no doubt Galway with their tradition and recent underage success do have notions.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: From the Bunker on January 24, 2018, 09:42:30 PM
Monaghan and Donegal presumably?
Yes. But Tyrone were filleted last year too. Any time Kilkenny delivered such a lesson to Galway the year after was not good
As filleted as Dublin were after their championship defeats to Kerry and Tyrone in 2008,2009. Tyrone are a mainly young side that should only improve on the progress already made. Currently an established Div one team that regularly reach the last 4 of the championship something i'm sure a young Galway side would like to be in the years ahead.

Sooner or later Monaghan are going to lose their Div one status they have been punching above their weight under a top manager. Donegal are in transition and i'm not convinced Declan Bonner is the right manager to bring them through that transition.
The dubs had forwards.
Tyrone have shortages in that department. They also have notions. Galway don't.
Agree about Monaghan.
I have no doubt Galway with their tradition and recent underage success do have notions.
Galway always have notions! That's why they will come from nowhere some day!
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Lar Naparka on January 24, 2018, 10:29:35 PM

A lot of good fixtures there. Hopefully no weather disruptions. It would be nice if players being interviewed after could make an effort to speak their native language

Native language generally refers to the language someone has been exposed to from birth. For the overwhelming majority of people in Ireland, this is English.
Do you really think that the majority of GAA supporters would agree with that English is their native language?

In my experience, they certainly do.
The majority have a sentimental attachment to the Irish language and generally wish they had a better understanding of it but wouldn't take any positive steps, such as attending Irish language classes, improve their knowledge of the language.
I'd say your experience is very limited so.
;D ;D ;D
Something tells me thatyou had a very sheltered upbringing, well removed from the realities of everyday strife and life.
Would I be correct in saying you went to a Gaelscoil or, worse still, a CB gulag institution?
Tell you what, if even one individual, on two legs or four, I'm not fussy, agrees with you, I'll rest my case.


BTW, I've nothing against the Gaelic language, once the national language of our ancestors, I'll rest my case.
Oh and while I am at it, I both speak and write Irish fluently.

Pity you have to trot out the old Christian Brothers cliché. You know f all-out them
I think the most charitable thing I can say is that you are confusing the term “native language” with “national language” and there’s a helluva difference between them.
As this is taking us way off-topic, this is my last comment on the subject except to say I have dealt and occasionally worked with Christian Brothers for more than three decades and I imagine I know a lot more about them than you do.
A lot of decent skins okay but the prevailing ethos was and probably still is that if those weren’t  fior Gaels were somehow lesser people than those dwelt in the real world.
Over and out...
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: macdanger2 on January 24, 2018, 10:33:47 PM
Based on f*ck all but I'll go for

Kildare
Galway
Monaghan
Donegal
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Fuzzman on January 24, 2018, 10:46:14 PM
Anyone wanna hazard a guess at the Tyrone team Mickey will name tomorrow night?
Will we see many young players like Mulgrew, Lee Brennan, Cassidy at CB?
Wonder when was the last time the team didn't have a Cavananagh in it?
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Redhand Santa on January 24, 2018, 11:13:10 PM
Anyone wanna hazard a guess at the Tyrone team Mickey will name tomorrow night?
Will we see many young players like Mulgrew, Lee Brennan, Cassidy at CB?
Wonder when was the last time the team didn't have a Cavananagh in it?

Very difficult to pick the team. O’Neill did nets the last day so you’d think Morgan will start this one. Full back line is very hard to call. Mcrory mcnamee mccarron have been regulars there past few years but he’s bound to try something knew. Mckernan could well be the one to come in. McCann and hampsey very likely to start at half back. Brennan or McLaughlin could get other place if he pushed harte up to forwards.

Based on the McKenna cup McShane and McNulty did much better together than the other pairing so they may get a go.

I think burns Donnelly Sludden harte and Bradley all likely to get a go in forwards if fit. Mcaliskey or O’Neill most likely to take the other spot. From the two games I saw him play in McKenna cup lee Brennan didn’t offer enough to suggest he should be starting here.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: cornetto on January 24, 2018, 11:21:17 PM
Below is a piece taken from an interview with galways new great hope in the forwards padraic cunningham.he had been part of all Ireland winners u21 2013
It sounds to me they are going to do a roscommon from 2 yrs ago and go all out to try and stay in division 1.

"Then speculation arose and there were talks with the Galway county board – they sat me down and told this is a big year, that they really want to push on and make a Division 1 challenge, to be there or thereabouts.

I hope it works out !!!
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: An Fhairche Abu on January 25, 2018, 07:58:56 AM
Below is a piece taken from an interview with galways new great hope in the forwards padraic cunningham.he had been part of all Ireland winners u21 2013

I don't think he was anywhere near the 2013 team, much too young, he'd have been Ted Webb age group then.
He only turned 21 in 2017 so I think he would have been part of the U21 squad last year if available alright and not playing for Galway Utd.
His clubman on here can correct me if I'm out on any of that.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: galwayman on January 25, 2018, 08:07:01 AM
Below is a piece taken from an interview with galways new great hope in the forwards padraic cunningham.he had been part of all Ireland winners u21 2013

I don't think he was anywhere near the 2013 team, much too young, he'd have been Ted Webb age group then.
He only turned 21 in 2017 so I think he would have been part of the U21 squad last year if available alright and not playing for Galway Utd.
His clubman on here can correct me if I'm out on any of that.
Correct AFA. He only turned 21 two months ago.
He was on the Galway minor panel in 2013 but didn’t see any game time in their one championship game that year.
Has been unavailable for county football (and the vast majority of club action too) in the meantime up until now.
He’s only started one single adult club championship game for his club - an inter quarter final in 2014.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: cornetto on January 25, 2018, 08:29:00 AM
Apologies, wrong "padraig cunningham".
I  hope this younger padraig reaches his potential.
Tuam stadium to be checked out today to see if pitch going to be playable,could there still be a double header in Pearse stadium?
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: tonto1888 on January 25, 2018, 09:21:07 AM
Monaghan and Donegal presumably?
Yes. But Tyrone were filleted last year too. Any time Kilkenny delivered such a lesson to Galway the year after was not good
As filleted as Dublin were after their championship defeats to Kerry and Tyrone in 2008,2009. Tyrone are a mainly young side that should only improve on the progress already made. Currently an established Div one team that regularly reach the last 4 of the championship something i'm sure a young Galway side would like to be in the years ahead.


Tyrone have a very good young side but will be interesting to see how they go without SC. I suppose they still have some other experienced players but SC may well be a big miss. Those Dublin sides you mention had a lot of experience in them to help get other those defeats
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Maroon Manc on January 25, 2018, 09:41:57 AM
Yeah a right pain in the ass for a group of us coming from Dublin.
Besides getting a Bus Eireann but are there any other ways to get there
Do they have special buses laid on from Galway city?

Might hire a wee cheap car between 5 of us

Game might be moved back to Salthill.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Fuzzman on January 25, 2018, 09:49:48 AM
Ye're messing?
Why? Where'd you hear that?

Jay$U$ they must know they are really messing up people's plans.
I'd nearly send them a bill from my Irish Rail and Bus Eireann tickets.

Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Maroon Manc on January 25, 2018, 09:56:40 AM
Ye're messing?
Why? Where'd you hear that?

Jay$U$ they must know they are really messing up people's plans.
I'd nearly send them a bill from my Irish Rail and Bus Eireann tickets.

On rte website. https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2018/0124/935796-double-header-headache-for-galway-fans/

Sounds like they'll make the decision today after looking at the pitch.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: seafoid on January 25, 2018, 10:16:19 AM
Ye're messing?
Why? Where'd you hear that?

Jay$U$ they must know they are really messing up people's plans.
I'd nearly send them a bill from my Irish Rail and Bus Eireann tickets.
Fans deserve compensation in such a situation imo
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Tyrdub on January 25, 2018, 11:14:28 AM
Ye're messing?
Why? Where'd you hear that?

Jay$U$ they must know they are really messing up people's plans.
I'd nearly send them a bill from my Irish Rail and Bus Eireann tickets.
Fans deserve compensation in such a situation imo

do you reckon they'd get it?
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: J70 on January 25, 2018, 11:22:41 AM
Why would you expect compensation for the refixing of a venue due to weather? Especially in winter months in Ireland!
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: seafoid on January 25, 2018, 11:26:10 AM
Ye're messing?
Why? Where'd you hear that?

Jay$U$ they must know they are really messing up people's plans.
I'd nearly send them a bill from my Irish Rail and Bus Eireann tickets.
Fans deserve compensation in such a situation imo

do you reckon they'd get it?
There seems to be enough money for GPA food supplements
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on January 25, 2018, 12:18:30 PM
Apologies, wrong "padraig cunningham".
I  hope this younger padraig reaches his potential.
Tuam stadium to be checked out today to see if pitch going to be playable,could there still be a double header in Pearse stadium?

There could be yes. Another dump of rain due to Friday evening and night I believe.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Cunny Funt on January 26, 2018, 09:05:40 PM
Mayo team shows 11 players who saw action in All Ireland final last September

1. David Clarke - Ballina Stephenites
2. Brendan Harrison - Aghamore
3. Ger Cafferkey - Ballina Stephenites
4. Eoin O’Donoghue - Belmullet
5. Colm Boyle - Davitts
6. Michael Hall - Breaffy
7. Paddy Durcan - Castlebar Mitchels
8. Jason Gibbons - Ballintubber
9. Stephen Coen - Hollymount/Carramore
10. Kevin McLoughlin - Knockmore
11. Aidan O’Shea - Breaffy(Captain)
12. Diarmuid O’Connor - Ballintubber
13. Jason Doherty - Burrishoole
14. Evan Regan - Ballina Stephenites
15. Conor Loftus - Crossmolina
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: macdanger2 on January 26, 2018, 09:28:39 PM
Would prefer to see Coen at 6, I don't think Hall is physical enough for that position, would see him as a wing back. And Coen definitely isn't a MF
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Cunny Funt on January 26, 2018, 09:39:50 PM
Main team news for Monaghan is no Conor McManus on the 26.

1 Rory Beggan    
2 Ryan Wylie    
3 Conor Boyle    
4 Barry Kerr    
5 Fintan Kelly    
6 Kieran Duffy    
7 Karl O’Connell    
8 Darren Hughes    
9 Niall Kearns    
10 Owen Duffy    
11 Paraic Mc Guirk    
12 Ryan Mc Anespie    
13 Conor Mc Carthy    
14 Jack Mc Carron    
15 David Garland    

Subs

16 Shane Garland    
17 Drew Wylie    
18 Colin Walshe    
19 Stephen Finnegan    
20 Neil Mc Adam    
21 Thomas Kerr    
22 Dessie Ward    
23 Paudie Mc Kenna    
24 Dermot Malone    
25 Darren Freeman    
26 Micheal Bannigan    
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: twohands!!! on January 26, 2018, 09:46:14 PM
Kerry Team

Looks like lots of youngsters, especially with the subs - James O'Donoghue on the bench a bit odd

1.   Shane Murphy Dr. Crokes
2.   Cormac Coffey Kerins O’Rahillys
3.   Jason Foley Ballydonoghue
4.   Shane Enright Tarbert
5.   Paul Murphy Rathmore
6.   Gavin Crowley Templenoe
7.   Ronan Shanahan Austin Stacks
8.   Jack Barry Na Gaeil
9.   Brendan O’Sullivan Valentia
10.   Micheál Burns Dr. Crokes
11.   Seán Ó Sé Kenmare
12.   Stephen O’Brien Kenmare
13.   David Clifford Fossa
14.   Paul Geaney Dingle
15.   Barry John Keane Kerins O’Rahillys


Fir Ionaid:

16.   Brian Kelly Killarney Legion
17.   James O’Donoghue Killarney Legion
18.   Jack Savage Kerins O’Rahillys
19.   Barry O’Sullivan Dingle
20.   Matthew Flaherty Dingle
21.   Dáithí Casey Dr. Crokes
22.   Andrew Barry Na Gaeil
23.   Killian Spillane Templenoe
24.   Greg Horan Austin Stacks
25.   Brian Ó Seanacháin Ballydonoghue
26.   Tom (Leo) O’Sullivan Dingle
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Lar Naparka on January 26, 2018, 10:01:21 PM
Mayo team shows 11 players who saw action in All Ireland final last September

1. David Clarke - Ballina Stephenites
2. Brendan Harrison - Aghamore
3. Ger Cafferkey - Ballina Stephenites
4. Eoin O’Donoghue - Belmullet
5. Colm Boyle - Davitts
6. Michael Hall - Breaffy
7. Paddy Durcan - Castlebar Mitchels
8. Jason Gibbons - Ballintubber
9. Stephen Coen - Hollymount/Carramore
10. Kevin McLoughlin - Knockmore
11. Aidan O’Shea - Breaffy(Captain)
12. Diarmuid O’Connor - Ballintubber
13. Jason Doherty - Burrishoole
14. Evan Regan - Ballina Stephenites
15. Conor Loftus - Crossmolina
Maybe it's an odd thing to say but there are some, the likes of Coen as well as Evan Regan and Ger Caff that need to buck up considerably duriing the league if they are to figure in Rochford's plans for the championship.
I mean Coen and Regan have been there or thereabouts for a number of years without really doing anythig to show they are first grade material. Poor Caff dropped out of favour and din't at all last year so if he's going to win back the no. 3 spot, he'd need to hit the ground running next day and to have a good run in the league to get into Rochford's reckoning again.
All three are a bit like Alan Freeman IMO.
Talented withoout doubt but never delivering on their potential.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Farrandeelin on January 26, 2018, 10:21:15 PM
Cannot see Mayo getting anything on Sunday with that team out. All 3 that Lar mentioned along with Michael Hall have to show Rochford they are capable of nailing down a spot.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: macdanger2 on January 26, 2018, 10:58:07 PM
Kerry Team

Looks like lots of youngsters, especially with the subs - James O'Donoghue on the bench a bit odd

1.   Shane Murphy Dr. Crokes
2.   Cormac Coffey Kerins O’Rahillys
3.   Jason Foley Ballydonoghue
4.   Shane Enright Tarbert
5.   Paul Murphy Rathmore
6.   Gavin Crowley Templenoe
7.   Ronan Shanahan Austin Stacks
8.   Jack Barry Na Gaeil
9.   Brendan O’Sullivan Valentia
10.   Micheál Burns Dr. Crokes
11.   Seán Ó Sé Kenmare
12.   Stephen O’Brien Kenmare
13.   David Clifford Fossa
14.   Paul Geaney Dingle
15.   Barry John Keane Kerins O’Rahillys


Fir Ionaid:

16.   Brian Kelly Killarney Legion
17.   James O’Donoghue Killarney Legion
18.   Jack Savage Kerins O’Rahillys
19.   Barry O’Sullivan Dingle
20.   Matthew Flaherty Dingle
21.   Dáithí Casey Dr. Crokes
22.   Andrew Barry Na Gaeil
23.   Killian Spillane Templenoe
24.   Greg Horan Austin Stacks
25.   Brian Ó Seanacháin Ballydonoghue
26.   Tom (Leo) O’Sullivan Dingle

Is that the drugs cheat unlucky contaminated supplements taker starting?
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on January 26, 2018, 10:59:17 PM
Yeah
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: cornetto on January 27, 2018, 12:15:36 AM
Galway Football Team v Tyrone

1. Ruairi Lavelle (Rinn a'Mhaoil)
2. Declan Kyne (An Fhairche)
3. Sean Andy O'Ceallaigh (Naomh Ánna, Leitír Mór)
4. Eoghan Kerin (Anach Cuain)
5. Cathal Sweeney (Cill Annin)
6. Gareth Bradshaw (Maigh Cuilinn)
7. Johnny Heaney (Cill Annin)
8. Paul Conroy (Naomh Seamus)
9. Peter Cooke (Maigh Cuilinn)
10. Sean Kelly (Maigh Cuilinn)
11. Shane Walsh (Cill Chloirín/Cluain Bheirne)
12. Eamonn Brannigan (Naomh Micheal)
13. Patrick Sweeney (Cill Annin)
14. Damien Comer (Anach Cuain)
15. Barry McHugh (An Creagan/Maigh Locha)
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Main Street on January 27, 2018, 02:48:36 AM
Cannot see Mayo getting anything on Sunday with that team out. All 3 that Lar mentioned along with Michael Hall have to show Rochford they are capable of nailing down a spot.
Monaghan won't even have to punch above their weight then?
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Syferus on January 27, 2018, 03:09:56 AM
Cannot see Mayo getting anything on Sunday with that team out. All 3 that Lar mentioned along with Michael Hall have to show Rochford they are capable of nailing down a spot.
Monaghan won't even have to punch above their weight then?

Ulster teams tend to take the early rounds of the league more seriously than everyone else.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: galwayman on January 27, 2018, 07:11:05 AM
Galway Football Team v Tyrone

1. Ruairi Lavelle (Rinn a'Mhaoil)
2. Declan Kyne (An Fhairche)
3. Sean Andy O'Ceallaigh (Naomh Ánna, Leitír Mór)
4. Eoghan Kerin (Anach Cuain)
5. Cathal Sweeney (Cill Annin)
6. Gareth Bradshaw (Maigh Cuilinn)
7. Johnny Heaney (Cill Annin)
8. Paul Conroy (Naomh Seamus)
9. Peter Cooke (Maigh Cuilinn)
10. Sean Kelly (Maigh Cuilinn)
11. Shane Walsh (Cill Chloirín/Cluain Bheirne)
12. Eamonn Brannigan (Naomh Micheal)
13. Patrick Sweeney (Cill Annin)
14. Damien Comer (Anach Cuain)
15. Barry McHugh (An Creagan/Maigh Locha)
Why Patrick Sweeney getting more chances?
Not up to it full stop.
Also think we need to try someone else corner back.
Dec Kyne has been exposed time and again.
Maybe it’s because Sean Andy is a debutant who knows.
Would like to see Sean Kelly as a wing back rather than wing forward.
Himself and Heaney raiding forward from the wings would be dangerous.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Dinny Breen on January 27, 2018, 08:18:51 AM
Our lambs for the slaughter

Kildare XV to play Dublin

1 Mark Donnellan- Maynooth
2 Peter Kelly- Two Mile House
3 David Hyland- Athy
4 Mick O’ Grady- Celbridge
5 Johnny Byrne- Allenwood
6 Eoin Doyle (C)- Naas
7 Cian O'Donoghue- Clane
8 Kevin Feely- Athy
9 Luke Flynn- Johnstownbridge
10 Fergal Conway- Celbridge
11 Chris Healy- Two Mile House
12 Paul Cribbin- Johnstownbridge
13 Neil Flynn- Maynooth
14 Daniel Flynn- Johnstownbridge
15 Cathal McNally- Johnstownbridge
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on January 27, 2018, 02:58:14 PM
Neil Flynn has scored 1-26 in his last 3 games against Dublin (2 at u21 and 1 minor). Hopefully he can maintain that form at senior level.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Donnellys Hollow on January 27, 2018, 03:44:10 PM
Our lambs for the slaughter

Kildare XV to play Dublin

1 Mark Donnellan- Maynooth
2 Peter Kelly- Two Mile House
3 David Hyland- Athy
4 Mick O’ Grady- Celbridge
5 Johnny Byrne- Allenwood
6 Eoin Doyle (C)- Naas
7 Cian O'Donoghue- Clane
8 Kevin Feely- Athy
9 Luke Flynn- Johnstownbridge
10 Fergal Conway- Celbridge
11 Chris Healy- Two Mile House
12 Paul Cribbin- Johnstownbridge
13 Neil Flynn- Maynooth
14 Daniel Flynn- Johnstownbridge
15 Cathal McNally- Johnstownbridge

I'm feeling optimistic this year:


Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1á
Post by: The Hill is Blue on January 27, 2018, 03:47:59 PM
Dubs team for tonight

https://www.dublingaa.ie/news/senior-footballers-mix-youth-and-experience-for-lilywhite-duel
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Maroon Manc on January 27, 2018, 04:34:46 PM
Galway Football Team v Tyrone

1. Ruairi Lavelle (Rinn a'Mhaoil)
2. Declan Kyne (An Fhairche)
3. Sean Andy O'Ceallaigh (Naomh Ánna, Leitír Mór)
4. Eoghan Kerin (Anach Cuain)
5. Cathal Sweeney (Cill Annin)
6. Gareth Bradshaw (Maigh Cuilinn)
7. Johnny Heaney (Cill Annin)
8. Paul Conroy (Naomh Seamus)
9. Peter Cooke (Maigh Cuilinn)
10. Sean Kelly (Maigh Cuilinn)
11. Shane Walsh (Cill Chloirín/Cluain Bheirne)
12. Eamonn Brannigan (Naomh Micheal)
13. Patrick Sweeney (Cill Annin)
14. Damien Comer (Anach Cuain)
15. Barry McHugh (An Creagan/Maigh Locha)
Why Patrick Sweeney getting more chances?
Not up to it full stop.
Also think we need to try someone else corner back.
Dec Kyne has been exposed time and again.
Maybe it’s because Sean Andy is a debutant who knows.
Would like to see Sean Kelly as a wing back rather than wing forward.
Himself and Heaney raiding forward from the wings would be dangerous.

Don't know why I'm surprised to see P Sweeney start but I am, thought Cunningham & Varley would start ahead of him and McHugh. I'm not sure who else you could start ahead of Kyne in the corner, Galway certainly don't have that many options at corner back.

I'm pleased to see Cooke get a chance to start as Flynn has never shown any sort of consistency but I won't be too surprised if there's a change or two.

If Galway can get anything from this game I'll be very surprised.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Duine Eile on January 27, 2018, 04:49:50 PM
Damien Comer has been given the captaincy for this year, good choice I think, he'll take the role seriously and his pride in the jersey could be an example to the rest. Regarding the team listed above, can't understand why certain players are getting chance after chance, we know what we're going to get from Paddy Sweeney for example, in fairness to Sweeney he tries but not good enough, I heard someone say yesterday that he wouldn't even make the Corofin team which to be honest, I would agree with.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: galwayman on January 27, 2018, 04:56:07 PM
Galway Football Team v Tyrone

1. Ruairi Lavelle (Rinn a'Mhaoil)
2. Declan Kyne (An Fhairche)
3. Sean Andy O'Ceallaigh (Naomh Ánna, Leitír Mór)
4. Eoghan Kerin (Anach Cuain)
5. Cathal Sweeney (Cill Annin)
6. Gareth Bradshaw (Maigh Cuilinn)
7. Johnny Heaney (Cill Annin)
8. Paul Conroy (Naomh Seamus)
9. Peter Cooke (Maigh Cuilinn)
10. Sean Kelly (Maigh Cuilinn)
11. Shane Walsh (Cill Chloirín/Cluain Bheirne)
12. Eamonn Brannigan (Naomh Micheal)
13. Patrick Sweeney (Cill Annin)
14. Damien Comer (Anach Cuain)
15. Barry McHugh (An Creagan/Maigh Locha)
Why Patrick Sweeney getting more chances?
Not up to it full stop.
Also think we need to try someone else corner back.
Dec Kyne has been exposed time and again.
Maybe it’s because Sean Andy is a debutant who knows.
Would like to see Sean Kelly as a wing back rather than wing forward.
Himself and Heaney raiding forward from the wings would be dangerous.

Don't know why I'm surprised to see P Sweeney start but I am, thought Cunningham & Varley would start ahead of him and McHugh. I'm not sure who else you could start ahead of Kyne in the corner, Galway certainly don't have that many options at corner back.

I'm pleased to see Cooke get a chance to start as Flynn has never shown any sort of consistency but I won't be too surprised if there's a change or two.

If Galway can get anything from this game I'll be very surprised.
I imagine McHugh is there as he will be the free taker.
Shane is an erratic free taker as is Peter Cooke & with Army not playing he’ll be on the frees I guess.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: seafoid on January 27, 2018, 06:46:31 PM
Damien Comer has been given the captaincy for this year, good choice I think, he'll take the role seriously and his pride in the jersey could be an example to the rest. Regarding the team listed above, can't understand why certain players are getting chance after chance, we know what we're going to get from Paddy Sweeney for example, in fairness to Sweeney he tries but not good enough, I heard someone say yesterday that he wouldn't even make the Corofin team which to be honest, I would agree with.
Surely the injuries are related to a few players being given chances they otherwise mightnot get.

It is a pity Daithi Burke can't be cloned.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Main Street on January 27, 2018, 07:00:33 PM
The game is also on Premier Sports the honest UK subscription service for GAA sports and without the hype.

good stream here https://sportsbest.info/neto/ (https://sportsbest.info/neto/)
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Cunny Funt on January 27, 2018, 07:38:40 PM
Its clear to see watching this game that Kildare has the most pre-season work done but will it be enough to gain a shock win?
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: hardstation on January 27, 2018, 08:05:36 PM
Its clear to see watching this game that Kildare has the most pre-season work done but will it be enough to gain a shock win?
No.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Captain Obvious on January 27, 2018, 08:06:44 PM
Well that Dublin goal was coming, Kildare haven't improved much defensively since their last meeting v Dublin and as I type another Dublin goal!
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: lenny on January 27, 2018, 08:09:21 PM
Its clear to see watching this game that Kildare has the most pre-season work done but will it be enough to gain a shock win?

Can't see it.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Shamrock Shore on January 27, 2018, 08:16:52 PM
Kildare management keeping faith with their O’Byrne Cup side it seems  :-\
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Cunny Funt on January 27, 2018, 08:35:46 PM
Awful 2nd half for Kildare that goal in injury time their only score from play. They dropped their heads too soon and had no desire or belief to get back into that game.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: JoG2 on January 27, 2018, 08:49:13 PM
Awful 2nd half for Kildare that goal in injury time their only score from play. They dropped their heads too soon and had no desire or belief to get back into that game.

All the desire and belief in the world wouldn't have made any difference when Dublin turned the screw those 1st 15 mins of the 2nd half! The Leinster championship is a depressing thought
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: omagh_gael on January 27, 2018, 08:59:00 PM
So much for catching the Dubs early in the league!

Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Captain Obvious on January 27, 2018, 09:04:36 PM
Before that late kildare consolation goal Dublin led that 2nd half 2-10 to 0-4 while not getting out of 2nd gear and clearing their bench early, enough said.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on January 27, 2018, 09:06:42 PM
Nothing new, I just wish the GAA would create a Leinster B championship to allow the other 10 teams have a competition to play for in the summer.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: larryin89 on January 27, 2018, 09:31:00 PM
Was in croke park tonight and tbh no bs its frightening , that burst in second half was electrifying.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Farrandeelin on January 27, 2018, 09:34:37 PM
How did the Dublin 'newbies' get on?
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Dinny Breen on January 27, 2018, 09:40:58 PM
So much for catching the Dubs early in the league!

Ffs, Dublin have never lost an opening game in the league under Gavin, that's just lazy journalism trying to give false hope. Kildare missed 2 goal chances and 6 wides in the 1st half needed a bigger cushion than 2 points. eDublin also had a very effective containment plan for Feeley.

At least out margin defeat is coming down, on track to beat Dublin circa 2023.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on January 27, 2018, 09:50:27 PM
How did the Dublin 'newbies' get on?

Howard will make it no bother, better than Paul Flynn already. Basquel has great pace and is a tidy footballer but I'd be surprised if he gets anywhere near the 1st 15 come championship with Mannion, Con O'Callaghan, Connolly and possibly Costello all likely to come in ahead of them.
James Doran has the potential to be a farsuperior version of Kevin McMenamin in a couple of years too.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: seafoid on January 27, 2018, 10:03:06 PM
So much for catching the Dubs early in the league!

Ffs, Dublin have never lost an opening game in the league under Gavin, that's just lazy journalism trying to give false hope. Kildare missed 2 goal chances and 6 wides in the 1st half needed a bigger cushion than 2 points. eDublin also had a very effective containment plan for Feeley.

At least out margin defeat is coming down, on track to beat Dublin circa 2023.
Kildare need to think strategically. The wheels will fall off the Dub bandwagon at some stage.  Kilkenny hurlers won more than the Dubs will and they are shite now. If Kildare keep it together they could start to win stuff.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: omagh_gael on January 27, 2018, 10:05:35 PM
So much for catching the Dubs early in the league!

Ffs, Dublin have never lost an opening game in the league under Gavin, that's just lazy journalism trying to give false hope. Kildare missed 2 goal chances and 6 wides in the 1st half needed a bigger cushion than 2 points. eDublin also had a very effective containment plan for Feeley.

At least out margin defeat is coming down, on track to beat Dublin circa 2023.

Well aware of that but a lot more teams were close to beating them early in the league compared to the end. The failure to offload the ball for a certain goal at end of the first half was suicidal.

Hopefully we give them a good rattle next Saturday night.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Jinxy on January 27, 2018, 10:19:11 PM
If Kildare played Daniel Flynn further out the field and coached him to get his head up and bring others into the game he would be a serious weapon.
Or got him to drift in and out.
Serious power & pace but needs to work on his finishing and link play.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Jinxy on January 27, 2018, 10:22:51 PM
Also, Fenton is a Rolls-Royce of a footballer and Kilkenny looks like he put on a stone of muscle over the winter.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: seafoid on January 28, 2018, 08:26:09 AM
If Kildare played Daniel Flynn further out the field and coached him to get his head up and bring others into the game he would be a serious weapon.
Or got him to drift in and out.
Serious power & pace but needs to work on his finishing and link play.
They have to convert more chances. D1 is a good development space 
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Gael85 on January 28, 2018, 08:35:50 AM
So much for catching the Dubs early in the league!

Ffs, Dublin have never lost an opening game in the league under Gavin, that's just lazy journalism trying to give false hope. Kildare missed 2 goal chances and 6 wides in the 1st half needed a bigger cushion than 2 points. eDublin also had a very effective containment plan for Feeley.

At least out margin defeat is coming down, on track to beat Dublin circa 2023.

We lost opening league to Cork in 2015
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Gael85 on January 28, 2018, 08:39:00 AM
How did the Dublin 'newbies' get on?

Howard will make it no bother, better than Paul Flynn already. Basquel has great pace and is a tidy footballer but I'd be surprised if he gets anywhere near the 1st 15 come championship with Mannion, Con O'Callaghan, Connolly and possibly Costello all likely to come in ahead of them.
James Doran has the potential to be a farsuperior version of Kevin McMenamin in a couple of years too.

Howard has a long way to go to match what Paul Flynn has done.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Hound on January 28, 2018, 09:51:55 AM
Before that late kildare consolation goal Dublin led that 2nd half 2-10 to 0-4 while not getting out of 2nd gear and clearing their bench early, enough said.
Dublin well out of 2nd gear in the third quarter! Fenton's second half performance was as good as you'd ever see.

Kildare were good in the first half, pity the young lad got injured so early. Albeit they did collapse heavily in second half.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: From the Bunker on January 28, 2018, 10:34:53 AM
Was there (m)any Kildare supporters at the Match?
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Donnellys Hollow on January 28, 2018, 10:45:02 AM
Was there (m)any Kildare supporters at the Match?

We'd have filled a Range Rover.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: From the Bunker on January 28, 2018, 11:04:08 AM
Was there (m)any Kildare supporters at the Match?

We'd have filled a Range Rover.

Ah sure, I'm sure there were plenty of Dublin supporters. Headquarters will be happy enough with that!
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Lar Naparka on January 28, 2018, 11:07:48 AM
So much for catching the Dubs early in the league!

Ffs, Dublin have never lost an opening game in the league under Gavin, that's just lazy journalism trying to give false hope. Kildare missed 2 goal chances and 6 wides in the 1st half needed a bigger cushion than 2 points. eDublin also had a very effective containment plan for Feeley.

At least out margin defeat is coming down, on track to beat Dublin circa 2023.
Kildare need to think strategically. The wheels will fall off the Dub bandwagon at some stage.  Kilkenny hurlers won more than the Dubs will and they are shite now. If Kildare keep it together they could start to win stuff.
WTF! Are you sure you are not Zulu in disguise. ;D
 Kilkenny hurlers and the Kerry 4 in a row won what they did because they were simply better than the rest. They held no other advantage over any other county in the land.
Kilkenny has 12 senior teams, far less than Cork, Tipp, Dublin and possibly  others as well. Do they have more money than anyone else?
Well, after one of their earlier wins in their recent run, the players had to stand outside Church gates with plastic buckets to cadge money for their own holiday.
They finally ran out of puff because Cody didn’t have enough fresh, young players coming through. He stuck with the old reliable even when it was obvious they had past their sell by date. He didn't have enough talented replacements.
Exactly the same with Micko and Kerry. Even after the four in a row, he got an awful bollicking from Kerry fans when his winning run stopped. He got more abuse in the three years before he started winning again than he got praise for all he had done until then. At least, that’s what the man said.
Dublin will never have that problem. Spare me the crap about the present side being exceptionally talented and when they retire en masse everything will be the same as before they came along.
 Correct me if I’m wrong but only five of the 2011 winning team started against Mayo last year. (Clucko, O’Sullivan, Fitzsimons, McCarthy and Berno.)
Dublin will always have assloads of talented younger players pushing for places and oul’ fellas desperately trying to hold on. The team will never will never lack motivation to go all the way and that’s for sure. Unlike Micko and Cody, Jim Gavin and whoever follows him will never be short of able replacements.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: omagh_gael on January 28, 2018, 11:18:48 AM
Does anyone know if Galway bay FM cover the football?
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: GaillimhIarthair on January 28, 2018, 11:22:09 AM
Does anyone know if Galway bay FM cover the football?
They will for sure and it will be quite the experience if you’ve never heard those lads in action previously!!
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: galwayman on January 28, 2018, 11:31:40 AM
Does anyone know if Galway bay FM cover the football?
They will for sure and it will be quite the experience if you’ve never heard those lads in action previously!!
That’s if Ollie Turner is on the mic.
If it’s Kevin Dwyer or Tommy Devane or someone else it won’t be much of an experience other than sleep inducing!
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: omagh_gael on January 28, 2018, 11:40:14 AM
Cheers lads, I'll have the Prozac and Valium handy so all bases are covered depending on which commentator shows up!
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: seafoid on January 28, 2018, 12:11:03 PM
So much for catching the Dubs early in the league!

Ffs, Dublin have never lost an opening game in the league under Gavin, that's just lazy journalism trying to give false hope. Kildare missed 2 goal chances and 6 wides in the 1st half needed a bigger cushion than 2 points. eDublin also had a very effective containment plan for Feeley.

At least out margin defeat is coming down, on track to beat Dublin circa 2023.
Kildare need to think strategically. The wheels will fall off the Dub bandwagon at some stage.  Kilkenny hurlers won more than the Dubs will and they are shite now. If Kildare keep it together they could start to win stuff.
WTF! Are you sure you are not Zulu in disguise. ;D
 Kilkenny hurlers and the Kerry 4 in a row won what they did because they were simply better than the rest. They held no other advantage over any other county in the land.
Kilkenny has 12 senior teams, far less than Cork, Tipp, Dublin and possibly  others as well. Do they have more money than anyone else?
Well, after one of their earlier wins in their recent run, the players had to stand outside Church gates with plastic buckets to cadge money for their own holiday.
They finally ran out of puff because Cody didn’t have enough fresh, young players coming through. He stuck with the old reliable even when it was obvious they had past their sell by date. He didn't have enough talented replacements.
Exactly the same with Micko and Kerry. Even after the four in a row, he got an awful bollicking from Kerry fans when his winning run stopped. He got more abuse in the three years before he started winning again than he got praise for all he had done until then. At least, that’s what the man said.
Dublin will never have that problem. Spare me the crap about the present side being exceptionally talented and when they retire en masse everything will be the same as before they came along.
 Correct me if I’m wrong but only five of the 2011 winning team started against Mayo last year. (Clucko, O’Sullivan, Fitzsimons, McCarthy and Berno.)
Dublin will always have assloads of talented younger players pushing for places and oul’ fellas desperately trying to hold on. The team will never will never lack motivation to go all the way and that’s for sure. Unlike Micko and Cody, Jim Gavin and whoever follows him will never be short of able replacements.
It's not about money or demographics. The highest skill level and teamwork is its own currency.
It is impossible to keep going indefinitely.  Pep couldn't do it at Barcelona. Fergie  couldn't do it. Cody can't do it. The Dubs will be shite in a few years.

Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: galwayman on January 28, 2018, 12:17:19 PM
So much for catching the Dubs early in the league!

Ffs, Dublin have never lost an opening game in the league under Gavin, that's just lazy journalism trying to give false hope. Kildare missed 2 goal chances and 6 wides in the 1st half needed a bigger cushion than 2 points. eDublin also had a very effective containment plan for Feeley.

At least out margin defeat is coming down, on track to beat Dublin circa 2023.
Kildare need to think strategically. The wheels will fall off the Dub bandwagon at some stage.  Kilkenny hurlers won more than the Dubs will and they are shite now. If Kildare keep it together they could start to win stuff.
WTF! Are you sure you are not Zulu in disguise. ;D
 Kilkenny hurlers and the Kerry 4 in a row won what they did because they were simply better than the rest. They held no other advantage over any other county in the land.
Kilkenny has 12 senior teams, far less than Cork, Tipp, Dublin and possibly  others as well. Do they have more money than anyone else?
Well, after one of their earlier wins in their recent run, the players had to stand outside Church gates with plastic buckets to cadge money for their own holiday.
They finally ran out of puff because Cody didn’t have enough fresh, young players coming through. He stuck with the old reliable even when it was obvious they had past their sell by date. He didn't have enough talented replacements.
Exactly the same with Micko and Kerry. Even after the four in a row, he got an awful bollicking from Kerry fans when his winning run stopped. He got more abuse in the three years before he started winning again than he got praise for all he had done until then. At least, that’s what the man said.
Dublin will never have that problem. Spare me the crap about the present side being exceptionally talented and when they retire en masse everything will be the same as before they came along.
 Correct me if I’m wrong but only five of the 2011 winning team started against Mayo last year. (Clucko, O’Sullivan, Fitzsimons, McCarthy and Berno.)
Dublin will always have assloads of talented younger players pushing for places and oul’ fellas desperately trying to hold on. The team will never will never lack motivation to go all the way and that’s for sure. Unlike Micko and Cody, Jim Gavin and whoever follows him will never be short of able replacements.
It's not about money or demographics. The highest skill level and teamwork is its own currency.
It is impossible to keep going indefinitely.  Pep couldn't do it at Barcelona. Fergie  couldn't do it. Cody can't do it. The Dubs will be shite in a few years.
They probably won’t be as dominant imo but to say they will be “shite”?
Now that’s shite talk!
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: From the Bunker on January 28, 2018, 12:28:03 PM
So much for catching the Dubs early in the league!

Ffs, Dublin have never lost an opening game in the league under Gavin, that's just lazy journalism trying to give false hope. Kildare missed 2 goal chances and 6 wides in the 1st half needed a bigger cushion than 2 points. eDublin also had a very effective containment plan for Feeley.

At least out margin defeat is coming down, on track to beat Dublin circa 2023.
Kildare need to think strategically. The wheels will fall off the Dub bandwagon at some stage.  Kilkenny hurlers won more than the Dubs will and they are shite now. If Kildare keep it together they could start to win stuff.
WTF! Are you sure you are not Zulu in disguise. ;D
 Kilkenny hurlers and the Kerry 4 in a row won what they did because they were simply better than the rest. They held no other advantage over any other county in the land.
Kilkenny has 12 senior teams, far less than Cork, Tipp, Dublin and possibly  others as well. Do they have more money than anyone else?
Well, after one of their earlier wins in their recent run, the players had to stand outside Church gates with plastic buckets to cadge money for their own holiday.
They finally ran out of puff because Cody didn’t have enough fresh, young players coming through. He stuck with the old reliable even when it was obvious they had past their sell by date. He didn't have enough talented replacements.
Exactly the same with Micko and Kerry. Even after the four in a row, he got an awful bollicking from Kerry fans when his winning run stopped. He got more abuse in the three years before he started winning again than he got praise for all he had done until then. At least, that’s what the man said.
Dublin will never have that problem. Spare me the crap about the present side being exceptionally talented and when they retire en masse everything will be the same as before they came along.
 Correct me if I’m wrong but only five of the 2011 winning team started against Mayo last year. (Clucko, O’Sullivan, Fitzsimons, McCarthy and Berno.)
Dublin will always have assloads of talented younger players pushing for places and oul’ fellas desperately trying to hold on. The team will never will never lack motivation to go all the way and that’s for sure. Unlike Micko and Cody, Jim Gavin and whoever follows him will never be short of able replacements.
It's not about money or demographics. The highest skill level and teamwork is its own currency.
It is impossible to keep going indefinitely.  Pep couldn't do it at Barcelona. Fergie  couldn't do it. Cody can't do it. The Dubs will be shite in a few years.

Seafoid, one of the greatest blessings that Galway Football has had over the last 10 years is that they have not had the humiliation of meeting Dublin in a competitive game in either the League or championship. You just have no idea of what you are up against until your own county meets this Monster. You can look at other counties and say they should have done this wrong and they should have done that wrong. You can say this is a fad. That it's not money based. Not home game based. But until you see your own county (a county you know the best) humbled you are speaking as a person blinded by old values and old rules.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: seafoid on January 28, 2018, 01:23:31 PM
So much for catching the Dubs early in the league!

Ffs, Dublin have never lost an opening game in the league under Gavin, that's just lazy journalism trying to give false hope. Kildare missed 2 goal chances and 6 wides in the 1st half needed a bigger cushion than 2 points. eDublin also had a very effective containment plan for Feeley.

At least out margin defeat is coming down, on track to beat Dublin circa 2023.
Kildare need to think strategically. The wheels will fall off the Dub bandwagon at some stage.  Kilkenny hurlers won more than the Dubs will and they are shite now. If Kildare keep it together they could start to win stuff.
WTF! Are you sure you are not Zulu in disguise. ;D
 Kilkenny hurlers and the Kerry 4 in a row won what they did because they were simply better than the rest. They held no other advantage over any other county in the land.
Kilkenny has 12 senior teams, far less than Cork, Tipp, Dublin and possibly  others as well. Do they have more money than anyone else?
Well, after one of their earlier wins in their recent run, the players had to stand outside Church gates with plastic buckets to cadge money for their own holiday.
They finally ran out of puff because Cody didn’t have enough fresh, young players coming through. He stuck with the old reliable even when it was obvious they had past their sell by date. He didn't have enough talented replacements.
Exactly the same with Micko and Kerry. Even after the four in a row, he got an awful bollicking from Kerry fans when his winning run stopped. He got more abuse in the three years before he started winning again than he got praise for all he had done until then. At least, that’s what the man said.
Dublin will never have that problem. Spare me the crap about the present side being exceptionally talented and when they retire en masse everything will be the same as before they came along.
 Correct me if I’m wrong but only five of the 2011 winning team started against Mayo last year. (Clucko, O’Sullivan, Fitzsimons, McCarthy and Berno.)
Dublin will always have assloads of talented younger players pushing for places and oul’ fellas desperately trying to hold on. The team will never will never lack motivation to go all the way and that’s for sure. Unlike Micko and Cody, Jim Gavin and whoever follows him will never be short of able replacements.
It's not about money or demographics. The highest skill level and teamwork is its own currency.
It is impossible to keep going indefinitely.  Pep couldn't do it at Barcelona. Fergie  couldn't do it. Cody can't do it. The Dubs will be shite in a few years.
They probably won’t be as dominant imo but to say they will be “shite”?
Now that’s shite talk!
Kilkenny were peerless.
Now they can't even defend.

https://youtu.be/LgoPvOQPdfQ

Say you have a JJ Delaney or a Brian Fenton. They have to play. It would be insane to put in a new lad. But do that for a few years across the team and the same faces clock up the miles. The second string do not. The same faces get old. And then one day you need 6 replacements and there is nobody.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Farrandeelin on January 28, 2018, 01:57:14 PM
Nally in for Hall, Andy and Douglas start the corner forward positions.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Farrandeelin on January 28, 2018, 02:39:10 PM
Level at half-time 0-7 apiece in Clones. Mayo with the breeze in the second half.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Main Street on January 28, 2018, 02:40:57 PM
For those who don't like their football deferred, Kerry v Donegal is live on Premier Sports
http://cricfree.sc/premier-sports-live-stream
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: southtyronegael on January 28, 2018, 02:53:11 PM
galway 1-3 tyrone 0-1 after 23 mins.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Il Bomber Destro on January 28, 2018, 02:53:51 PM
McNamee hooked.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: redzone on January 28, 2018, 02:55:16 PM
Jesus Galway bay fm. Bunch of clowns
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: trileacman on January 28, 2018, 02:56:35 PM
Galway bay, holy f**k. There's Galway players being "raped" in Tuam seemingly.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Il Bomber Destro on January 28, 2018, 02:56:48 PM
Jesus Galway bay fm. Bunch of clowns

Accused Tyrone players of rape and molestation already.

He then accussed McCurry of striking and kicking a player when his co-commentator said it was a shoulder in the back and the corner back was making a meal of it.

McCurry sent off
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: southtyronegael on January 28, 2018, 02:57:05 PM
why ttm not covering it? at least we dont have to listen to damian harvey blowing tyrone up even when they are shite.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: armaghniac on January 28, 2018, 02:57:08 PM
Do Tyrone radio stations provide better coverage?
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Whishtup on January 28, 2018, 02:57:28 PM
Tyrone not at the races here. Mccurry red card.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: AQMP on January 28, 2018, 02:58:15 PM
Gal - Tyr, Darren McCurry gets the line after 25 mins
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: trileacman on January 28, 2018, 02:58:39 PM
Do Tyrone radio stations provide better coverage?

It's usually shite enough too to be fair but I've never heard them accuse the opposition of rape before.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Il Bomber Destro on January 28, 2018, 03:00:43 PM
Do Tyrone radio stations provide better coverage?

It's usually shite enough too to be fair but I've never heard them accuse the opposition of rape before.

Molestation a few minutes earlier.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Whishtup on January 28, 2018, 03:04:01 PM
Conall McCann in a very ineffective winger role here.  Look like a team who are trying to remember last year's drills but not quite getting there.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Whishtup on January 28, 2018, 03:12:37 PM
Even with the poor showing, if Tyrone had converted half the chances, they'd be at least level.  Who is going to put the hand up this year to rack up 5-10 points?  Hopefully a  better second half...
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: redzone on January 28, 2018, 03:18:16 PM
We have obviously treated this like a challenge game while they have approached it like an all Ireland final
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: SouthDublinBro on January 28, 2018, 03:19:58 PM
Tyrone ulster fans classy in defeat as always
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Farrandeelin on January 28, 2018, 03:20:14 PM
Ollie Turner commentating?  ::)
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: galwayman on January 28, 2018, 03:21:04 PM
Even with the poor showing, if Tyrone had converted half the chances, they'd be at least level.  Who is going to put the hand up this year to rack up 5-10 points?  Hopefully a  better second half...
It’s a strong breeze to be fair but we’ll have to improve our attacking play in second half with the breeze. It’s difficult to play with it as Tyrone found out in first half.
Brannigan will even it up to 14 a side as well the first chance he gets and with the conditions as they are that’s a distinct possibility as tackles look worse on days like this.
Tyrone could be at least level as they’ve had a few narrow wides.
Equally though Cathal Sweeney had a great goal chance well saved.
Still all to play for here.
I’ve seen us fall into our shell in positions like this too many times before!
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: galwayman on January 28, 2018, 03:22:08 PM
We have obviously treated this like a challenge game while they have approached it like an all Ireland final
Oh of course ya that what’s happening alright.
Genius
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Main Street on January 28, 2018, 03:22:30 PM
Soft penalty awarded to Kerry, the fall to ground being in the Johnny Cooper vein. The penalty was pointed, it's a long time since I've seen that.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Whishtup on January 28, 2018, 03:35:41 PM
Good tough tackling by Galway making it difficult for Tyrone to break through(which is their only option). Only see this going one way.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Farrandeelin on January 28, 2018, 03:38:35 PM
Mayo 0-13 Monaghan 0-12 full time.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: trileacman on January 28, 2018, 03:40:52 PM
Inside line once again choking us. RON, mc aliskey, mc shane, mc curry have been shown time and again not to be up to scratch. Why do we persist with these bluffers and refuse Brennan, Bradley and most of all McHugh time to prove their worth. f**ks sake it's frustrating.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: southtyronegael on January 28, 2018, 03:43:47 PM
53 mins gone. tyrone have scored 4 points. they trail by 5.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: OgraAnDun on January 28, 2018, 03:45:05 PM
53 mins gone. tyrone have scored 4 points. they trail by 5.

Sounds a bit like Moy yesterday.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: longballin on January 28, 2018, 03:46:38 PM
53 mins gone. tyrone have scored 4 points. they trail by 5.

Sounds a bit like Moy yesterday.

aye but Tyrone don't have Sean and Colm Cavanagh  :o
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: redzone on January 28, 2018, 03:48:02 PM
Colly cav is key to Tyrone. Interesting that the radio said Tyrone were going man to man. If it wasn't clear before it probably won't be now. There is a reason for our defensive game plan
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: From the Bunker on January 28, 2018, 03:52:17 PM
Mayo 0-13 Monaghan 0-12 full time.

A bit of a smash and grab at the end. We'll take it!  :)
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: OgraAnDun on January 28, 2018, 03:55:10 PM
53 mins gone. tyrone have scored 4 points. they trail by 5.

Sounds a bit like Moy yesterday.

aye but Tyrone don't have Sean and Colm Cavanagh  :o

They do have Peter Harte on the frees though, will it be enough?
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Il Bomber Destro on January 28, 2018, 04:04:31 PM
Inside line once again choking us. RON, mc aliskey, mc shane, mc curry have been shown time and again not to be up to scratch. Why do we persist with these bluffers and refuse Brennan, Bradley and most of all McHugh time to prove their worth. f**ks sake it's frustrating.

Brennan has done little in a Tyrone Jersey yet to suggest he deserves a starting spot.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: southtyronegael on January 28, 2018, 04:06:23 PM
done little? comes on again today with 4 mins to go. hardly much time to make an impact.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Il Bomber Destro on January 28, 2018, 04:08:04 PM
done little? comes on again today with 4 mins to go. hardly much time to make an impact.

Yes, done little.

I'd rather McHugh gets a chance than Brennan, Brennan doesn't offer anything McCurry, Bradley etc don't.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: redzone on January 28, 2018, 04:14:31 PM
done little? comes on again today with 4 mins to go. hardly much time to make an impact.

Yes, done little.

I'd rather McHugh gets a chance than Brennan, Brennan doesn't offer anything McCurry, Bradley etc don't.
Have u seen mchugh play. U seem adamant he should be on
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Farrandeelin on January 28, 2018, 04:14:42 PM
Mayo 0-13 Monaghan 0-12 full time.

A bit of a smash and grab at the end. We'll take it!  :)

For sure. From my vantage point on the radio, it seems Caff had a good game. I hope he keeps it up. Regan and Douglas will also give Rochford food for thought after their scoring rate. Andy must be some boy. Monaghan, not for the first time lost the head it seems. Good start to the year. Kerry (who keep referring to last August's loss to Mayo as the worst thing that ever happened) up next. Revenge will surely be on their minds.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: seafoid on January 28, 2018, 04:22:38 PM
That is a great win for Galway.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on January 28, 2018, 04:29:27 PM
That is a great win for Galway.

Think they really needed to win today to give themselves a chance of staying up. Especially with Donegal A Mayo H and Kerry A to come next. If they could nick a win in one of those games they will give themselves a shot at staying up with the Kildare and Monaghan games to come towards the end of the league.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Whishtup on January 28, 2018, 04:30:50 PM
That is a great win for Galway.

Well deserved too. Conroy and Cooke lorded the midfield. Not often you see Mattie Donnelly put on his ass.  Hopefully some soul searching done after this by players and management to keep the score down next week.  Bring back the double blanket swarm multi sweeper system, I'd say! Have to wonder what the plan is, other than depend on Petey Harte to do something special.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: T Fearon on January 28, 2018, 04:40:08 PM
Tyrone are finished.Psychologically damaged by the heavy defeat by the Dubs.Next week will finish them off!
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Lamh Dhearg Alba on January 28, 2018, 04:56:10 PM
Jesus Galway bay fm. Bunch of clowns

Enjoyed the co commentator when there was some nonsense near the end, "I don't know who is to blame for this but it's a a northern thing and when they start you have to defend yourself"  ;D. Reminded of Martin McHugh on Highland Radio a few years back when there was an incident. Said he hadn't seen it and couldn't comment, then when the Donegal man was sent off he claimed it was an outrageous decision. Still, happy enough to have live coverage to listen to.

Poor from Tyrone by the sounds of it but no need to get too upset at this stage.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: In hiding on January 28, 2018, 05:02:50 PM
Colly cav is key to Tyrone. Interesting that the radio said Tyrone were going man to man. If it wasn't clear before it probably won't be now. There is a reason for our defensive game plan
What is that reason ?
Are you saying the panel of players Tyrone have aren't good enough in div 1 ?
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Il Bomber Destro on January 28, 2018, 05:04:18 PM
Colly cav is key to Tyrone. Interesting that the radio said Tyrone were going man to man. If it wasn't clear before it probably won't be now. There is a reason for our defensive game plan
What is that reason ?
Are you saying the panel of players Tyrone have aren't good enough in div 1 ?

I think our full back line is very weak and needs the protection.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: In hiding on January 28, 2018, 05:06:27 PM
Colly cav is key to Tyrone. Interesting that the radio said Tyrone were going man to man. If it wasn't clear before it probably won't be now. There is a reason for our defensive game plan
What is that reason ?
Are you saying the panel of players Tyrone have aren't good enough in div 1 ?

I think our full back line is very weak and needs the protection.

Every serious team protects their full back line. Some do it more intelligently than others
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Il Bomber Destro on January 28, 2018, 05:08:11 PM
Colly cav is key to Tyrone. Interesting that the radio said Tyrone were going man to man. If it wasn't clear before it probably won't be now. There is a reason for our defensive game plan
What is that reason ?
Are you saying the panel of players Tyrone have aren't good enough in div 1 ?


I think our full back line is very weak and needs the protection.

Every serious team protects their full back line. Some do it more intelligently than others

Some full back lines need a lot less protection than others.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: yellowcard on January 28, 2018, 05:09:37 PM
In the space of 5 months Tyrone have gone from being the side who were going to halt the Dublin juggernaut to a team likely to be fighting off relegation from division one. Rather than blaming Harte for setting up a defensive gameplan maybe they simply don't have good enough players to play a more attacking brand of football.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Il Bomber Destro on January 28, 2018, 05:11:26 PM
done little? comes on again today with 4 mins to go. hardly much time to make an impact.

Yes, done little.

I'd rather McHugh gets a chance than Brennan, Brennan doesn't offer anything McCurry, Bradley etc don't.
Have u seen mchugh play. U seem adamant he should be on

He's the only inside forward we have who has a bit of presence, he's 6ft1 so therefore he offers something the other forwards do not. Brennan, McCurry, McAliksey, O'Neill and Bradley are all too small for the modern game to play inside.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Main Street on January 28, 2018, 05:12:19 PM
Mayo 0-13 Monaghan 0-12 full time.

A bit of a smash and grab at the end. We'll take it!  :)

For sure. From my vantage point on the radio, it seems Caff had a good game. I hope he keeps it up. Regan and Douglas will also give Rochford food for thought after their scoring rate. Andy must be some boy. Monaghan, not for the first time lost the head it seems. Good start to the year. Kerry (who keep referring to last August's loss to Mayo as the worst thing that ever happened) up next. Revenge will surely be on their minds.
Lost their heads? You mean to include Ryan Wylie in that assessment, who picked up a 2nd yellow after Aiden O'Shea collapsed to the turf? A wise person would want to see that incident before making comment. 
The crucial difference according to the objective radio commentary sponsored by Sam's Diner, was the ref not seeing a foul in the last Monaghan attack and instead awarded a free out for a handled ball on the ground,  that led to Mayo scoring  a fine winner instead of Monaghan.



Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Il Bomber Destro on January 28, 2018, 05:14:51 PM
In the space of 5 months Tyrone have gone from being the side who were going to halt the Dublin juggernaut to a team likely to be fighting off relegation from division one. Rather than blaming Harte for setting up a defensive gameplan maybe they simply don't have good enough players to play a more attacking brand of football.

I would say there is an element of truth in that, we have plenty of skilled footballers but we don't have a top inside forward who can win all types of ball and finish. Guys like McCurry, O'Neill, Brennan and Bradley are all skilled footballers but they simply don't have that physical presence you need nowadays to survive inside.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: J70 on January 28, 2018, 05:20:34 PM
Bit of a sickening loss in the end for Donegal. Played very well after going down to 14. McBrearty and MacNiallais were immense. But a few very soft hometown decisions, some slack marking and a fucked-up lockout leading to the second Kerry goal made the difference.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Il Bomber Destro on January 28, 2018, 05:25:50 PM
It will be interesting to see if Donegal can keep this up into the summer.

We all know what happened last year after an impressive league campaign. They are a very physically imposing side though particularly when they get the likes of McGee, Murphy, McGrath and McGlynn back. Thought the no.2 was very impressive for them.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Main Street on January 28, 2018, 05:34:38 PM
Bit of a sickening loss in the end for Donegal. Played very well after going down to 14. McBrearty and MacNiallais were immense. But a few very soft hometown decisions, some slack marking and a fucked-up lockout leading to the second Kerry goal made the difference.
The ref seemed to buy every silicon enhanced fall to floor made by a Kerry player.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Tubberman on January 28, 2018, 05:39:11 PM
Mayo 0-13 Monaghan 0-12 full time.

A bit of a smash and grab at the end. We'll take it!  :)

For sure. From my vantage point on the radio, it seems Caff had a good game. I hope he keeps it up. Regan and Douglas will also give Rochford food for thought after their scoring rate. Andy must be some boy. Monaghan, not for the first time lost the head it seems. Good start to the year. Kerry (who keep referring to last August's loss to Mayo as the worst thing that ever happened) up next. Revenge will surely be on their minds.
Lost their heads? You mean to include Ryan Wylie in that assessment, who picked up a 2nd yellow after Aiden O'Shea collapsed to the turf? A wise person would want to see that incident before making comment. 
The crucial difference according to the objective radio commentary sponsored by Sam's Diner, was the ref not seeing a foul in the last Monaghan attack and instead awarded a free out for a handled ball on the ground,  that led to Mayo scoring  a fine winner instead of Monaghan.





Monaghan man walking out beside me said Wylie kneed O'Shea in the balls and was a definite red. Didn't spot what it was for myself
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: trileacman on January 28, 2018, 06:03:43 PM
Bit of a sickening loss in the end for Donegal. Played very well after going down to 14. McBrearty and MacNiallais were immense. But a few very soft hometown decisions, some slack marking and a fucked-up lockout leading to the second Kerry goal made the difference.
The ref seemed to buy every silicon enhanced fall to floor made by a Kerry player.

Kerry men seem to be  serial divers. It was marked how much of it an Gaeltacht done yesterday against moy.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Gael85 on January 28, 2018, 06:27:25 PM
Bit of a sickening loss in the end for Donegal. Played very well after going down to 14. McBrearty and MacNiallais were immense. But a few very soft hometown decisions, some slack marking and a fucked-up lockout leading to the second Kerry goal made the difference.
The ref seemed to buy every silicon enhanced fall to floor made by a Kerry player.

Same as yesterday game. Anytime contact made to  player in possession dived to ground holding his head.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: omagh_gael on January 28, 2018, 06:50:51 PM
Three Ulster teams all beat. Once off or a sign of things to come?
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Cunny Funt on January 28, 2018, 07:46:18 PM
Two Connacht sides won when the majority of people including many of their own supporters thought they would lose. The old tag line expect the unexpected rang true today.

Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: criostlinn on January 28, 2018, 08:06:53 PM
Mayo 0-13 Monaghan 0-12 full time.

A bit of a smash and grab at the end. We'll take it!  :)

For sure. From my vantage point on the radio, it seems Caff had a good game. I hope he keeps it up. Regan and Douglas will also give Rochford food for thought after their scoring rate. Andy must be some boy. Monaghan, not for the first time lost the head it seems. Good start to the year. Kerry (who keep referring to last August's loss to Mayo as the worst thing that ever happened) up next. Revenge will surely be on their minds.
Lost their heads? You mean to include Ryan Wylie in that assessment, who picked up a 2nd yellow after Aiden O'Shea collapsed to the turf? A wise person would want to see that incident before making comment. 
The crucial difference according to the objective radio commentary sponsored by Sam's Diner, was the ref not seeing a foul in the last Monaghan attack and instead awarded a free out for a handled ball on the ground,  that led to Mayo scoring  a fine winner instead of Monaghan.

 ::)  So great wise one. Did you see the incident in question. Or did you see any of the numerous incidents when Aidan O'Shea was taken out of it of the ball. The thing is Monaghan could have won this but yet again were let down by indiscipline
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: seafoid on January 28, 2018, 08:19:17 PM
Three Ulster teams all beat. Once off or a sign of things to come?
Systematic I think.
Last year's championship was not good for an Tuaisceart.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Ciarrai_thuaidh on January 28, 2018, 08:45:46 PM
Bit of a sickening loss in the end for Donegal. Played very well after going down to 14. McBrearty and MacNiallais were immense. But a few very soft hometown decisions, some slack marking and a fucked-up lockout leading to the second Kerry goal made the difference.
The ref seemed to buy every silicon enhanced fall to floor made by a Kerry player.

Same as yesterday game. Anytime contact made to  player in possession dived to ground holding his head.

Are ye f**king serious? McLoone and McHugh gave their best auditions for Swan Lake today, but..it was Kerry players who were diving?   ;D Fierce balance here altogether!
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: omagh_gael on January 28, 2018, 08:55:05 PM
Three Ulster teams all beat. Once off or a sign of things to come?
Systematic I think.
Last year's championship was not good for an Tuaisceart.

Sickening Galway arrogance ;)
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: larryin89 on January 28, 2018, 09:12:51 PM
Caff was very good, o donoghue was brilliant, coen and gibbons did well. Regan was v good in first half. Douglas was also good.

Negatives...a tad worrying seeing diarmuid not really perform again.

Higgans was said to be given an extended break but then played for the hurlers today, I cant fathom this at all.

Monaghan are a very dirty side ,forever at the off the ball stuff,just before the half time whistle evan regan was assaulted . Im tired of this shit from agricultural red neck fucktards , its time it was dealt with. Monaghan were the exact same last year in castlebar . Pure savages
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: seafoid on January 28, 2018, 09:39:14 PM
Three Ulster teams all beat. Once off or a sign of things to come?
Systematic I think.
Last year's championship was not good for an Tuaisceart.

Sickening Galway arrogance ;)
Even though Tyrone have no forwards I expected the backs to score at least 4 points more than the Galway forwards
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Duine Eile on January 28, 2018, 09:44:21 PM
Went to Tuam today expecting Tyrone to win to be honest but was happy to be proven wrong. Good fight and passion shown but with the horrendous day it was impossible to judge anyone really. Steady team performance and great to get the win.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: An Fhairche Abu on January 28, 2018, 09:47:28 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker

But until you see your own county (a county you know the best) humbled you are speaking as a person blinded by old values and old rules.

Galway have had enough "humbling" from far worse than the current Dublin team, that cheque in the the post anyway, will be cashed soon enough in this Division One campaign.

I was in Tuam so I didn't hear the GBFM commentary but it's always amusing to hear people from other counties giving out about the GBFM commentary team's (hilariously OTT at times) biases, it's local radio though, what are you going to do?
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Duine Eile on January 28, 2018, 09:49:13 PM
Ollie Turner is great when your own team is playing, you feel like you could be all Ireland champions in waiting after listening to him commentate on a match that Galway win!  ;D
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: ONeill on January 28, 2018, 09:52:30 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker

But until you see your own county (a county you know the best) humbled you are speaking as a person blinded by old values and old rules.

Galway have had enough "humbling" from far worse than the current Dublin team, that cheque in the the post anyway, will be cashed soon enough in this Division One campaign.

I was in Tuam so I didn't hear the GBFM commentary but it's always amusing to hear people from other counties giving out about the GBFM commentary team's (hilariously OTT at times) biases, it's local radio though, what are you going to do?

What way did Tyrone play? Any discernible difference from previous years in terms of a system?
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: omagh_gael on January 28, 2018, 10:13:45 PM
Redhand88 had this to say over on the Tyrone thread, O'Neill:

You can tell the system has radically radically changed. No more are we flooding behind the ball every time we are turned over. No more are we carrying the ball to the full forward line. The kick pass to a corner forward was happening all day. It just wasn't a day for it. First day of the new system, it's nothing to panic about.

I caught the last 25 minutes of the Kerry v Donegal. It struck me how much bigger both teams are than ourselves in the forward line. Early doors yet but I'd stick a tenner in Donegal for Ulster this year.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: mouview on January 28, 2018, 10:15:25 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker

But until you see your own county (a county you know the best) humbled you are speaking as a person blinded by old values and old rules.

Galway have had enough "humbling" from far worse than the current Dublin team, that cheque in the the post anyway, will be cashed soon enough in this Division One campaign.

I was in Tuam so I didn't hear the GBFM commentary but it's always amusing to hear people from other counties giving out about the GBFM commentary team's (hilariously OTT at times) biases, it's local radio though, what are you going to do?

Think it was more specific descriptive language that was used at a couple of stages in the first half. Even though I had the radio with me I didn't hear exactly what was said; however, OTT had to apologise of sorts for some of the terminology used before the start of the second half.

Longer analysis later; game was won after 15 minutes as Tyrone, an absolutely dog-useless pig of a side, are not built to retrieve leads as their forwards are even worse than Mayos at trying to score from play. Apologies to Tyrone fans but they're utterly drek to watch. Not that Galway are much better; mgmt is still tactically inept and far too loyal to sub-par performers.
Laters.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: trileacman on January 28, 2018, 10:39:33 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker

But until you see your own county (a county you know the best) humbled you are speaking as a person blinded by old values and old rules.

Galway have had enough "humbling" from far worse than the current Dublin team, that cheque in the the post anyway, will be cashed soon enough in this Division One campaign.

I was in Tuam so I didn't hear the GBFM commentary but it's always amusing to hear people from other counties giving out about the GBFM commentary team's (hilariously OTT at times) biases, it's local radio though, what are you going to do?

Think it was more specific descriptive language that was used at a couple of stages in the first half. Even though I had the radio with me I didn't hear exactly what was said; however, OTT had to apologise of sorts for some of the terminology used before the start of the second half.

Longer analysis later; game was won after 15 minutes as Tyrone, an absolutely dog-useless pig of a side, are not built to retrieve leads as their forwards are even worse than Mayos at trying to score from play. Apologies to Tyrone fans but they're utterly drek to watch. Not that Galway are much better; mgmt is still tactically inept and far too loyal to sub-par performers.
Laters.

Said the Galway player were being raped and molested by Tyrone.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Whishtup on January 28, 2018, 10:45:47 PM
Redhand88 had this to say over on the Tyrone thread, O'Neill:

You can tell the system has radically radically changed. No more are we flooding behind the ball every time we are turned over. No more are we carrying the ball to the full forward line. The kick pass to a corner forward was happening all day. It just wasn't a day for it. First day of the new system, it's nothing to panic about.

I caught the last 25 minutes of the Kerry v Donegal. It struck me how much bigger both teams are than ourselves in the forward line. Early doors yet but I'd stick a tenner in Donegal for Ulster this year.

I couldn't see much difference.  I saw players hanging out in the corner forward position not being used, instead the offload to the man running through the middle was deployed to no avail. In the second half when the corner forwards got the ball, they had no support and hit hopefull balls across the square. Couldn't shoot because of the wind.  Mattie Donnelly heavy legged. Ronan O'Neill looks overweight. Peter Harte looked as though he got himself black carded in frustration.  Even if we beat the Dubs next week, I wouldn't expect much this year.  You have to put the ball over the bar. 
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: reddgnhand on January 28, 2018, 10:57:33 PM
Redhand88 had this to say over on the Tyrone thread, O'Neill:

You can tell the system has radically radically changed. No more are we flooding behind the ball every time we are turned over. No more are we carrying the ball to the full forward line. The kick pass to a corner forward was happening all day. It just wasn't a day for it. First day of the new system, it's nothing to panic about.

I caught the last 25 minutes of the Kerry v Donegal. It struck me how much bigger both teams are than ourselves in the forward line. Early doors yet but I'd stick a tenner in Donegal for Ulster this year.

I couldn't see much difference.  I saw players hanging out in the corner forward position not being used, instead the offload to the man running through the middle was deployed to no avail. In the second half when the corner forwards got the ball, they had no support and hit hopefull balls across the square. Couldn't shoot because of the wind.  Mattie Donnelly heavy legged. Ronan O'Neill looks overweight. Peter Harte looked as though he got himself black carded in frustration.  Even if we beat the Dubs next week, I wouldn't expect much this year.  You have to put the ball over the bar.

Redhand88 must have been watching a different game from the one I was at. Tyrone's kick passing is awful. No forward could impress with their style of play. Some of the ball that was played into to Bradley was unbelievable at times but sure stick with the same shite Mickey.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Main Street on January 28, 2018, 11:16:35 PM
Mayo 0-13 Monaghan 0-12 full time.

A bit of a smash and grab at the end. We'll take it!  :)

For sure. From my vantage point on the radio, it seems Caff had a good game. I hope he keeps it up. Regan and Douglas will also give Rochford food for thought after their scoring rate. Andy must be some boy. Monaghan, not for the first time lost the head it seems. Good start to the year. Kerry (who keep referring to last August's loss to Mayo as the worst thing that ever happened) up next. Revenge will surely be on their minds.
Lost their heads? You mean to include Ryan Wylie in that assessment, who picked up a 2nd yellow after Aiden O'Shea collapsed to the turf? A wise person would want to see that incident before making comment. 
The crucial difference according to the objective radio commentary sponsored by Sam's Diner, was the ref not seeing a foul in the last Monaghan attack and instead awarded a free out for a handled ball on the ground,  that led to Mayo scoring  a fine winner instead of Monaghan.

 ::)  So great wise one. Did you see the incident in question. Or did you see any of the numerous incidents when Aidan O'Shea was taken out of it of the ball. The thing is Monaghan could have won this but yet again were let down by indiscipline
I was replying to someone who also listened to a radio commentary and I was replying to a specific red card incident in the game.
The indiscipline and alleged indiscipline of Monaghan in reference to the dismissals happened so late that it could hardly have impacted the result so much to be regarded as a defining factor. The ref decided not to award a free to Monaghan in the final attack and Mayo quickly scored the winning point from the sideline.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Main Street on January 28, 2018, 11:27:34 PM
Was the Donegal 3rd goal legal? The forward used his hand to guide the loose ball past the goalie then slapped it into the net?
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Crete Boom on January 28, 2018, 11:30:22 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker

But until you see your own county (a county you know the best) humbled you are speaking as a person blinded by old values and old rules.

Galway have had enough "humbling" from far worse than the current Dublin team, that cheque in the the post anyway, will be cashed soon enough in this Division One campaign.

I was in Tuam so I didn't hear the GBFM commentary but it's always amusing to hear people from other counties giving out about the GBFM commentary team's (hilariously OTT at times) biases, it's local radio though, what are you going to do?

Think it was more specific descriptive language that was used at a couple of stages in the first half. Even though I had the radio with me I didn't hear exactly what was said; however, OTT had to apologise of sorts for some of the terminology used before the start of the second half.

Longer analysis later; game was won after 15 minutes as Tyrone, an absolutely dog-useless pig of a side, are not built to retrieve leads as their forwards are even worse than Mayos at trying to score from play. Apologies to Tyrone fans but they're utterly drek to watch. Not that Galway are much better; mgmt is still tactically inept and far too loyal to sub-par performers.
Laters.

Here is me imaging Mayo's starting full forward line scored 4-27 from play in 5 championship matches in Croker park last season!!

Actually I had a look at Mayo's starting forwards & sub forwards that came on (no midfielders or half backs), and they averaged 12 points from play per game in the championship last year!!

Galway starting forwards & sub forwards that came on (again no midfielders or half backs) and they average 8 points from play in the championship last year!!

So Tyrone forwards must be on the up if they are only slightly worse than Mayo's forwards! ;)

Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: J70 on January 29, 2018, 12:44:51 AM
Was the Donegal 3rd goal legal? The forward used his hand to guide the loose ball past the goalie then slapped it into the net?

Why would it be?

He never had possession.

Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Main Street on January 29, 2018, 01:13:20 AM
Was the Donegal 3rd goal legal? The forward used his hand to guide the loose ball past the goalie then slapped it into the net?

Why would it be?
He never had possession.
There is nothing about possession in the rules about scoring, why would I consider possession being part of the criteria?  The scorer deflected the ball into space in order to create a better scoring chance with a second strike. I had not seen that before, had you? If it's kosher then okay. It does open up more than one way to fist the ball into the net. I had assumed the scorer had to strike the ball in flight and no messing about, deflecting it to better advantage for a second strike.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: J70 on January 29, 2018, 01:28:54 AM
Was the Donegal 3rd goal legal? The forward used his hand to guide the loose ball past the goalie then slapped it into the net?

Why would it be?
He never had possession.
There is nothing about possession in the rules about scoring, why would I consider possession being part of the criteria?  The scorer deflected the ball into space in order to create a better scoring chance with a second strike. I had not seen that before, had you? If it's kosher then okay. It does open up more than one way to fist the ball into the net. I had assumed the scorer had to strike the ball in flight and no messing about, deflecting it to better advantage for a second strike.

He never had control of the ball. The ball was loose, same as if had been passed across by a team mate. I’ve seen similar a few times. And what is the difference between that and gathering a ball when it bounces after you fail to catch it cleanly? The only thing forbidden is hand passing to yourself or into the net.

To my knowledge anyway...
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: seafoid on January 29, 2018, 06:25:24 AM
It's only when the league starts that you realise what you were missing. September is such a long time ago.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: TheGreatest on January 29, 2018, 09:20:38 AM
Always nice to beat Kildare and remind them of their place, especially when they cry to the media afterwards.

Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: mup on January 29, 2018, 09:31:09 AM
Always nice to beat Kildare and remind them of their place, especially when they cry to the media afterwards.

Stay classy
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Maroon Manc on January 29, 2018, 10:13:29 AM
Thats a great start for Galway, certainly wasn't expecting that. From reports sounds like Sean Andy & Cooke looked comfortable at this level, what did the posters at the game think of them? From looking at him Sean Kelly looks little bit light but Kevin Walsh obviously rates him highly, been around the FBD pabel the last 2 years and think got some game time in the league last year.

I'm a little bit more optimistic of staying up given the result and that O'Donnell & Armstrong both came on late in the game, the squad looks stronger then we were expecting.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: rosnarun on January 29, 2018, 10:57:00 AM
Caff was very good, o donoghue was brilliant, coen and gibbons did well. Regan was v good in first half. Douglas was also good.

Negatives...a tad worrying seeing diarmuid not really perform again.

Higgans was said to be given an extended break but then played for the hurlers today, I cant fathom this at all.

Monaghan are a very dirty side ,forever at the off the ball stuff,just before the half time whistle evan regan was assaulted . Im tired of this shit from agricultural red neck fucktards , its time it was dealt with. Monaghan were the exact same last year in castlebar . Pure savages
while im not in a position to ccall anyone a redneck monaghan were a f**king disgrace yesterday and were lucky to finish with 12 players such was the regularity that mayo players were assaulted. I would not put it down to a lack of disciple as that would suggest they did not know what they were doing .
the attempted to bully mayo and mayo showed incredible restraint in holding aback and not getting sucked in an nasty ugly game.
Have monaghan decide football was getting them nowhere and they need to up the physical stakes and mayo were soft touches ?
would be a sad day for football
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: GaillimhIarthair on January 29, 2018, 10:59:29 AM
Thats a great start for Galway, certainly wasn't expecting that. From reports sounds like Sean Andy & Cooke looked comfortable at this level, what did the posters at the game think of them? From looking at him Sean Kelly looks little bit light but Kevin Walsh obviously rates him highly, been around the FBD pabel the last 2 years and think got some game time in the league last year.

I'm a little bit more optimistic of staying up given the result and that O'Donnell & Armstrong both came on late in the game, the squad looks stronger then we were expecting.
The 2 lads were good and seem to be well fit for senior football, physically also, which is a prerequisite at this stage!  It was a poor day for football really, so very hard to give a fair assessment of an overall team performance.  Probably fair to say we battled that little bit harder than Tyrone and showed a little bit more composure in front of the posts when opportunities presented themselves.  A good start for sure but better performance's will be required in the weeks ahead to try and get another couple of wins that would keep us in Div 1. 
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: An Fhairche Abu on January 29, 2018, 11:19:28 AM
Longer analysis later; game was won after 15 minutes as Tyrone, an absolutely dog-useless pig of a side, are not built to retrieve leads as their forwards are even worse than Mayos at trying to score from play. Apologies to Tyrone fans but they're utterly drek to watch. Not that Galway are much better; mgmt is still tactically inept and far too loyal to sub-par performers.
Laters.

You're holding back there mouview, tell us what you really think  ;D

My tuppence worth is that it's January, none of this is going to be considered in detail during the summer but it’s still good to have the GAA competitions back.

With that caveat in mind, from a Galway perspective:

Referee first and Ciaran Brannigan was far too fussy all game but I feel if you are going to pull for everything then stick with that, he was all over the shop at times.
He missed as blatant a touch of the ball on the ground by a Galway player straight in front of him which lead directly to a Galway point 20 seconds later, I’d have been livid if from Tyrone. In contrast plenty of jersey tugging was let go along with some heavy tackles that could easily have been frees.
He took a full minute at the end of the first half to set up a hop ball, Galway win it and are starting to move into an attack and he just blows it up, mental stuff, just throw it up and blow the half dead instead of taking a minute to get players set up.
I don’t think Tyrone can complain too much about the cards, they started the rough stuff after getting themselves into a bit of a hole in the match and Galway were fit to match them in what could be most politely called “feisty” exchanges. Kerin definitely has to take some blame on the Galway side but McCurry was foolish to react after Kerin left a bit on another Tyrone player which might have landed Kerin a booking if McCurry had just stayed well away.

Galway were good the first 15 minutes and middling after that, Tyrone didn’t get going at any stage bar a 7/8 minute stretch when Harte and McCann began to run straight at a Galway team who started to give away sloppy frees.

Lavelle did better on the kick outs than his Connacht final nightmare but still had a couple of hairy moments, one fly kick off the ground that went straight to a Tyrone man and over the bar, let a high ball drop from his hands and bounce in the small square, on another day that’s in the back of the Galway net.
I don't know who going to be the solution at number one long term because I don't rate Power that highly either.
In fairness to both of them I don’t know what the Galway kickout strategy is, still seems fairly ad hoc with no defined pre-set moves to get players open at crucial times, which strikes me as a nothing approach to one of the most important facets of Gaelic football in this day and age.

Declan Kyne was fine, when Galway have a packed defence like yesterday none of the backs are left one on one and Tyrone were blunt enough in attack.
One lovely dummy move in the second half to go past a Tyrone player into space but his long ball to the FF line wasn’t the best after that. Lost possession in the Galway half under pressure near the end but got away with it.

Seán Andy Ó Ceallaigh looked decent enough back there, took any high ball sent his way assuredly and has the size to withstand tackles on the way out. Will have bigger challenges than yesterday so we’ll see how he goes moving forward, promising start though.

Kerin has a bit of dog about him, he was at whatever Tyrone forward was in his vicinity yesterday nonstop but Sylvie Linnane’s oft quoted maxim is true and Kerin is a tenacious defender even when on the back foot, had two fine break ups in one on one situations.
He played well yesterday and was one of the only Galway players who did anything of note against Kerry last year; I don’t see him moving from his FB line position for the big game on the 13th of May.

Bradshaw had a very committed game yesterday, one of Galway’s best performers; whether he’ll be fixed to pull a full 70 minute shift at that level come the summer is another question.

Heaney was quiet, not on as much ball as usual but I can’t recall any egregious mistakes either.

Cathal Sweeney had a curate’s egg of a performance, in fairness to him he is getting into very decent positions at the end of moves but not applying the finish or killer pass when there.
One bad miss when put through on goal in the first half, it was definitely one that should have been fisted over the bar, he had a lot to do to goal it and the shot was straight at the keeper. Another poor miss for a point in the second half when Galway badly needed it. Defended ok and he’s quicker getting around the pitch than his brother anyway.

Seán Kelly very much looked like a lad just coming in from underage out there; he doesn't have comparable size and physique to his contemporaries from the 2017 U21 team that started yesterday.
The day wasn't going to be easy in the physical stakes for anyone but he was totally out matched, typical of this was when he went back to retrieve a ball in the first half with time and space, was tackled and blown out of it by a Tyrone player, overcarrying and fouling the ball near his own 21, resulting in a free in that Harte missed but it's one that should have been scored. He'll have better days for Galway, maybe the dry sod in the summer will suit him better but on the basis of yesterday he will need a heap of S&C moving forward.

Conroy played well in parts but was fierce wasteful at times, careless use of hard won possession which more than anything is just frustrating to see.  He made two great runs at the death to win important frees in Tyrone territory, the second free however was one that he did he best to "engineer", it's the type that's nearly always given but you'd be ripping if it was against your own team.

Cook started by winning the first half throw in to start the move for Comer’s goal and I thought he played fairly well after that, has the size and pace for the middle.
One move in the first half sticks out where he bombed down the right flank soloing at pace and let a peach of a pass off the outside of the right into the on running Comer who duly spilt the posts. He’s a very different player so maybe the comparison is unfair but that type of ability is something that FOC has never shown at senior level.
I've been told that Cook is windy at times when confronted in the physical stakes but he didn't shirk the challenge or take one step back yesterday anyway.

Eamon Branigan had a decent match, moving well with the ball in hand and tacking on a couple of scores from play.
He’s intelligent enough to always try and get into a position where the shot percentage is good, had a couple that he could have hit a pot shot at but made the move into a much better position and two points were the result. Even the wide he hit off his left in the second was not one I could fault him for taking on.

Shane Walsh nailed a great free into the wind in the first half and played well in general. I don’t know if he is ever going to be the type of player to totally take over a game but keeping to this level of performance every day is what he needs to be aiming for. Had a great solo run finishing with a point in the second half which was the best score of the match for me.
One slight criticism would be that he took one free in the closing stages off his left that was relatively in front of the posts, he may be ok with the left for the frees (he scored the last point with his left from a free, but that was from a way more natural left footer angle position) but he is clearly better kicking off his right, no issue when the angle suits but if it’s much of a muchness in front of the posts I’d be surprised if the right wouldn’t do the job better every time. One of the Galway spectators beside me at the match called it “showboating” but that’s maybe taking it a bit too far.
As I’ve said Shane Walsh just needs consistency in his performances and nothing else, he has to step up to be one of the leaders of the team now, he has all the talent and ability in the world but that now has to be shown match after match after match, the days of "potential" should be over.

Yesterday’s game would have confirmed my opinion that Patrick Sweeney isn’t up to this level, lost a couple of easy possessions that were hand passed straight into his chest, kicked 4 wides, two of them very poor misses, his point was a gimme in the “couldn’t miss” category.
Sweeney made one nice move on the sideline to make a Tyrone defender miss but, in contrast to Branigan, took a difficult shot on straight away when he had all the space in front of him to move into a better shooting position. Don’t seem to have the pace and the engine to be a working half forward either.
If he's not able to do it on a bog slow pitch in difficult January conditions, he hasn't a notion when the ground firms up and we all knew this beforehand anyway, cannot see the logic in persisting with him up front bar to give a more physical presence in those conditions than some of the other options.
In my opinion we would be better off seeing what Eoin Finnerty, Cunningham etc. will do it there, it's harsh to say it but whatever the question for Galway up front is, Sweeney is not the answer.

Comer is a beast when on form, nearly always wins the ball played into him, has plenty of pace and is a good finisher off left and right. He came out around midfield in the first half which negated the Galway inside threat a bit. Still has the habit of trying to bull through when it’s not on, that’s fine for one on ones like the first goal in their 21 where you’ll likely get a free at worst but out on the opposition 45 when Galway need to hold possession and kill the game off? It’s just not wise to take on another Tyrone player having already blown by two of them, just lay it off.
Needs to keep the cool better than he has previously as he will definitely be targeted for reactions, but the best of luck to him in his captain’s role for the team.

Varley started very well and while Galway were in the ascendancy in the first 15 minutes he was involved a nice bit, faded out after that when Comer moved out to the middle (that’s probably not just coincidence) and I thought he was practically non-existent in the second half which was disappointing after starting well.

Cunningham didn’t have much impact in the 20 minutes but that coincided with Tyrone getting a foothold, ball wasn’t down near their posts too often that in fairness. Tom Flynn wasn’t involved a whole lot for his ten minutes. Duane, O'Donnell and Armstrong got very little game time, if it was a substitution that was always going to be made then Duane should have been in place of Kelly a lot sooner.

The full match day panel outside the first 15 doesn’t ever seem to be listed by the Galway twitter accounts which I find annoying myself so for those not there to see the programme:

16. Ronan Ó Beoláin (Micheál Breathnachs)
17. Seán Armstrong (Salthill/Knocknacarra)
18. Padraic Cunningham (Headford)
19. Cein D’Arcy (Caherlistrane)
20. Johnny Duane (St. James)
21. Ciarán Duggan (Annaghdown)
22. Eoin Finnerty (Mountbellew/Moylough)
23. Tom Flynn (Athenry)
24. Gary O’Donnell (Tuam Stars)
15. Barry McHugh (Mountbellew/Moylough)
26. David Wynne (Moycullen)

With respect to KW on the line, how he could leave Patrick Sweeney and Sean Kelly on for as long as he did given the way that they were playing without changing it up was baffling. That game was clearly there to be won for Galway from early on, he has to be more ruthless and better on the in game adjustments.
Tactically we look unsophisticated compared to the top teams, playing a standard enough blanket that's reliant on individual flashes of inspiration and fast counter attacks. If that continues, as I expect it will, unless Galway are playing with a bit of a cushion lead I don't think it's a winning formula moving forward against the very best teams.
When Walsh scored to put Galway 1-7 to 0-4 up they should have pushed on and buried Tyrone, they retreated into their shell, lost concentration and made poor decisions when in good positions that they didn’t make earlier in the match. This is a familiar in game failing for Galway unfortunately.

That said I couldn’t fault Galway for effort, toughness and application yesterday and I don’t think you can hold their other limitations against them too much in light of that, at the end of the day they are not world beaters. Wins of any sort will build the confidence and let’s be realistic here, if they can stay up in Division one at all it’ll be a decent achievement.

Donegal put up a fair score against Kerry yesterday with only 14 men for the majority of it and they owe Galway one for last summer, it'll be very difficult away in Donegal but if Galway want to be serious about staying up then they have to put in a performance worthy of getting something out of the game.
Galway won't get anywhere near Dublin and always lose to Kerry at senior these days, that's not leaving much margin for error in the 4 other games, and given the overall respective quality of the teams, Mayo will hardly keep losing to Galway either.

What way did Tyrone play? Any discernible difference from previous years in terms of a system?

I'm not the best judge of a match involving Galway as I would tend to focus too much on the Galway performance and miss out on some things that the other team are doing, but I would say that I saw no obvious difference in the Tyrone approach compared to recent times.
Tyrone did not play well in general yesterday (Harte was very inaccurate on frees that you’d expect a decent freetaker to nail) and once Galway got a decent lead they didn’t look like ever winning but that said they had some poor misses in the first half (it would have been level at h/t if the Tyrone shooting boots were working) and it's only the first league game yet.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Mayo4Sam on January 29, 2018, 11:25:44 AM
Mayo 0-13 Monaghan 0-12 full time.

A bit of a smash and grab at the end. We'll take it!  :)

For sure. From my vantage point on the radio, it seems Caff had a good game. I hope he keeps it up. Regan and Douglas will also give Rochford food for thought after their scoring rate. Andy must be some boy. Monaghan, not for the first time lost the head it seems. Good start to the year. Kerry (who keep referring to last August's loss to Mayo as the worst thing that ever happened) up next. Revenge will surely be on their minds.
Lost their heads? You mean to include Ryan Wylie in that assessment, who picked up a 2nd yellow after Aiden O'Shea collapsed to the turf? A wise person would want to see that incident before making comment. 
The crucial difference according to the objective radio commentary sponsored by Sam's Diner, was the ref not seeing a foul in the last Monaghan attack and instead awarded a free out for a handled ball on the ground,  that led to Mayo scoring  a fine winner instead of Monaghan.

I'm presuming you didnt see it as you were commenting on the Kerry V Doengal.
It was directly across from me, Ryan Wylies was a straight red for throwing a punch at AOS. Of course AOS collapsed to the turf, no matter how hard the punch he was always going to do that, as would any intercounty footballer. It was a ridiculous thing to do, AOS was lying on the ball as Monaghan had a free out.
Kerr got a second yellow for what should have been a straight red, it was a dirty act on Boyle.

I'd agree whole heartedly about the free in for Monaghan at the end, stonewall and we got a free out.
There is a balance for that with Regan's free in the first half which was clearly inside the post and the umpire looked at Beggan who waved it wide before he followed suit.

Mayo had this in the bag from early on, never looked like losing until the last 5 minutes when they let Monaghan back into it, that coincided with DOC going off on a black

For Mayo
Clarke - poor kickouts
Full back line - all excellent, Caff  would be my MOTM
HB - Durcan & Boyle excellent, Nally good but wasteful at times
Midfield - Just ok, got a lot of ball. Gibbons was poor on their kickouts towards the end, letting Monaghan catch clean ball
HF - DOC was busy, KMcL good first half and kinda went out of it, AOS - ok
FF - Dougie - poor on the ball but two great 45s (little or no run up, two steps bang) Regan - excellent, got on a lot of ball and only wasted a few balls, reminded me of how Andy plays, a definitely improvement. Andy was Andy

Subs
Adam Gallagher - kicked a criminal ball short at a crucial time, unforgiveable
Shakram - harried well
COC - took on a long range free when he shouldn't have. Was busy trying to get in a row the rest of the time
Loftus - didnt see a lot of the ball
Ger McDonagh - again no ball

Great start for us, we have a tough schedule with our home games being Tyrone, Kerry and Dublin so we'll need this wins on the road I thing

Monaghan can feel aggrieved about that last free but not a lot else, poor discipline let them down
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: J70 on January 29, 2018, 11:31:37 AM
To An Fhairche Abu:

Donegal have an absolutely appalling record in Letterkenny.

Should have elected to play you in Ballyshannon. Much shorter run for you people, and we don't lose there much!
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Lar Naparka on January 29, 2018, 11:46:22 AM
I was happy enough with Mayo's display yesterday. The big plus for me is that Adam Gallagher is well on the road to full recovery and is now fit enough take part in a competitive game.
It was a tragedy for the player himself and for Mayo when he was badly injured after a dirty tackle by some Kildare b**tard in a league game several years ago. He showed tremendous potential at u21 level and din't have time to make a name for himself at senior level.
If he can get back to full fitness, he'll be some asset for the championships. Mark my words.
With the shitty conditions and the poor light, I found it hard to follow the action at times so I can't comment on Wylie's tackle on Aidan O'Shea but fair play to the two Monaghan supporters I was having the craic with, they accepted it was a dirty tackle, even if they didn't think he should have got the line. I think Caff and Regan must have heard what I had said about them as both put in a really solid effort but the find of the match was Eoin O'Donoghue. He'll be shortlisted for a championship no doubt.
Overall, it was a tough, rough game but not especially dirty until a few Monaghan hard chaws started acting the maggot coming up to the end. When all the whining and complaining is over, O'Rourke will realise that it was a game he could well have won if his buckos had concentrated on the football and not on throwing their weight around.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: rosnarun on January 29, 2018, 12:30:31 PM
I was happy enough with Mayo's display yesterday. The big plus for me is that Adam Gallagher is well on the road to full recovery and is now fit enough take part in a competitive game.
It was a tragedy for the player himself and for Mayo when he was badly injured after a dirty tackle by some Kildare b**tard in a league game several years ago. He showed tremendous potential at u21 level and din't have time to make a name for himself at senior level.
If he can get back to full fitness, he'll be some asset for the championships. Mark my words.
With the shitty conditions and the poor light, I found it hard to follow the action at times so I can't comment on Wylie's tackle on Aidan O'Shea but fair play to the two Monaghan supporters I was having the craic with, they accepted it was a dirty tackle, even if they didn't think he should have got the line. I think Caff and Regan must have heard what I had said about them as both put in a really solid effort but the find of the match was Eoin O'Donoghue. He'll be shortlisted for a championship no doubt.
Overall, it was a tough, rough game but not especially dirty until a few Monaghan hard chaws started acting the maggot coming up to the end. When all the whining and complaining is over, O'Rourke will realise that it was a game he could well have won if his buckos had concentrated on the football and not on throwing their weight around.
mayo are long past having sympathy for team who Should have won games . As we have been told so often  you either win or you a bunch of losers(esp if AOS is playing)
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: whitey on January 29, 2018, 12:44:13 PM
Mayo 0-13 Monaghan 0-12 full time.

A bit of a smash and grab at the end. We'll take it!  :)

For sure. From my vantage point on the radio, it seems Caff had a good game. I hope he keeps it up. Regan and Douglas will also give Rochford food for thought after their scoring rate. Andy must be some boy. Monaghan, not for the first time lost the head it seems. Good start to the year. Kerry (who keep referring to last August's loss to Mayo as the worst thing that ever happened) up next. Revenge will surely be on their minds.
Lost their heads? You mean to include Ryan Wylie in that assessment, who picked up a 2nd yellow after Aiden O'Shea collapsed to the turf? A wise person would want to see that incident before making comment. 
The crucial difference according to the objective radio commentary sponsored by Sam's Diner, was the ref not seeing a foul in the last Monaghan attack and instead awarded a free out for a handled ball on the ground,  that led to Mayo scoring  a fine winner instead of Monaghan.

I'm presuming you didnt see it as you were commenting on the Kerry V Doengal.
It was directly across from me, Ryan Wylies was a straight red for throwing a punch at AOS. Of course AOS collapsed to the turf, no matter how hard the punch he was always going to do that, as would any intercounty footballer. It was a ridiculous thing to do, AOS was lying on the ball as Monaghan had a free out.
Kerr got a second yellow for what should have been a straight red, it was a dirty act on Boyle.

I'd agree whole heartedly about the free in for Monaghan at the end, stonewall and we got a free out.
There is a balance for that with Regan's free in the first half which was clearly inside the post and the umpire looked at Beggan who waved it wide before he followed suit.

Mayo had this in the bag from early on, never looked like losing until the last 5 minutes when they let Monaghan back into it, that coincided with DOC going off on a black

For Mayo
Clarke - poor kickouts
Full back line - all excellent, Caff  would be my MOTM
HB - Durcan & Boyle excellent, Nally good but wasteful at times
Midfield - Just ok, got a lot of ball. Gibbons was poor on their kickouts towards the end, letting Monaghan catch clean ball
HF - DOC was busy, KMcL good first half and kinda went out of it, AOS - ok
FF - Dougie - poor on the ball but two great 45s (little or no run up, two steps bang) Regan - excellent, got on a lot of ball and only wasted a few balls, reminded me of how Andy plays, a definitely improvement. Andy was Andy

Subs
Adam Gallagher - kicked a criminal ball short at a crucial time, unforgiveable
Shakram - harried well
COC - took on a long range free when he shouldn't have. Was busy trying to get in a row the rest of the time
Loftus - didnt see a lot of the ball
Ger McDonagh - again no ball

Great start for us, we have a tough schedule with our home games being Tyrone, Kerry and Dublin so we'll need this wins on the road I thing

Monaghan can feel aggrieved about that last free but not a lot else, poor discipline let them down

Douglas is technically good, but maybe a little light. Give this guy a big wide dry pitch and I think youd see another dimension to his play.  The fact someone can hit 45s consistently is a big plus.  Prob not a starter, but a good guy to bring off the bench
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: GetOverTheBar on January 29, 2018, 12:50:00 PM
Dublin will relish the chance to essentially kill Tyrone next Saturday night - promises to be a great game in Omagh (weather permitting!)
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Maroon Manc on January 29, 2018, 01:01:40 PM
Longer analysis later; game was won after 15 minutes as Tyrone, an absolutely dog-useless pig of a side, are not built to retrieve leads as their forwards are even worse than Mayos at trying to score from play. Apologies to Tyrone fans but they're utterly drek to watch. Not that Galway are much better; mgmt is still tactically inept and far too loyal to sub-par performers.
Laters.

You're holding back there mouview, tell us what you really think  ;D

My tuppence worth is that it's January, none of this is going to be considered in detail during the summer but it’s still good to have the GAA competitions back.

With that caveat in mind, from a Galway perspective:

Referee first and Ciaran Brannigan was far too fussy all game but I feel if you are going to pull for everything then stick with that, he was all over the shop at times.
He missed as blatant a touch of the ball on the ground by a Galway player straight in front of him which lead directly to a Galway point 20 seconds later, I’d have been livid if from Tyrone. In contrast plenty of jersey tugging was let go along with some heavy tackles that could easily have been frees.
He took a full minute at the end of the first half to set up a hop ball, Galway win it and are starting to move into an attack and he just blows it up, mental stuff, just throw it up and blow the half dead instead of taking a minute to get players set up.
I don’t think Tyrone can complain too much about the cards, they started the rough stuff after getting themselves into a bit of a hole in the match and Galway were fit to match them in what could be most politely called “feisty” exchanges. Kerin definitely has to take some blame on the Galway side but McCurry was foolish to react after Kerin left a bit on another Tyrone player which might have landed Kerin a booking if McCurry had just stayed well away.

Galway were good the first 15 minutes and middling after that, Tyrone didn’t get going at any stage bar a 7/8 minute stretch when Harte and McCann began to run straight at a Galway team who started to give away sloppy frees.

Lavelle did better on the kick outs than his Connacht final nightmare but still had a couple of hairy moments, one fly kick off the ground that went straight to a Tyrone man and over the bar, let a high ball drop from his hands and bounce in the small square, on another day that’s in the back of the Galway net.
I don't know who going to be the solution at number one long term because I don't rate Power that highly either.
In fairness to both of them I don’t know what the Galway kickout strategy is, still seems fairly ad hoc with no defined pre-set moves to get players open at crucial times, which strikes me as a nothing approach to one of the most important facets of Gaelic football in this day and age.

Declan Kyne was fine, when Galway have a packed defence like yesterday none of the backs are left one on one and Tyrone were blunt enough in attack.
One lovely dummy move in the second half to go past a Tyrone player into space but his long ball to the FF line wasn’t the best after that. Lost possession in the Galway half under pressure near the end but got away with it.

Seán Andy Ó Ceallaigh looked decent enough back there, took any high ball sent his way assuredly and has the size to withstand tackles on the way out. Will have bigger challenges than yesterday so we’ll see how he goes moving forward, promising start though.

Kerin has a bit of dog about him, he was at whatever Tyrone forward was in his vicinity yesterday nonstop but Sylvie Linnane’s oft quoted maxim is true and Kerin is a tenacious defender even when on the back foot, had two fine break ups in one on one situations.
He played well yesterday and was one of the only Galway players who did anything of note against Kerry last year; I don’t see him moving from his FB line position for the big game on the 13th of May.

Bradshaw had a very committed game yesterday, one of Galway’s best performers; whether he’ll be fixed to pull a full 70 minute shift at that level come the summer is another question.

Heaney was quiet, not on as much ball as usual but I can’t recall any egregious mistakes either.

Cathal Sweeney had a curate’s egg of a performance, in fairness to him he is getting into very decent positions at the end of moves but not applying the finish or killer pass when there.
One bad miss when put through on goal in the first half, it was definitely one that should have been fisted over the bar, he had a lot to do to goal it and the shot was straight at the keeper. Another poor miss for a point in the second half when Galway badly needed it. Defended ok and he’s quicker getting around the pitch than his brother anyway.

Seán Kelly very much looked like a lad just coming in from underage out there; he doesn't have comparable size and physique to his contemporaries from the 2017 U21 team that started yesterday.
The day wasn't going to be easy in the physical stakes for anyone but he was totally out matched, typical of this was when he went back to retrieve a ball in the first half with time and space, was tackled and blown out of it by a Tyrone player, overcarrying and fouling the ball near his own 21, resulting in a free in that Harte missed but it's one that should have been scored. He'll have better days for Galway, maybe the dry sod in the summer will suit him better but on the basis of yesterday he will need a heap of S&C moving forward.

Conroy played well in parts but was fierce wasteful at times, careless use of hard won possession which more than anything is just frustrating to see.  He made two great runs at the death to win important frees in Tyrone territory, the second free however was one that he did he best to "engineer", it's the type that's nearly always given but you'd be ripping if it was against your own team.

Cook started by winning the first half throw in to start the move for Comer’s goal and I thought he played fairly well after that, has the size and pace for the middle.
One move in the first half sticks out where he bombed down the right flank soloing at pace and let a peach of a pass off the outside of the right into the on running Comer who duly spilt the posts. He’s a very different player so maybe the comparison is unfair but that type of ability is something that FOC has never shown at senior level.
I've been told that Cook is windy at times when confronted in the physical stakes but he didn't shirk the challenge or take one step back yesterday anyway.

Eamon Branigan had a decent match, moving well with the ball in hand and tacking on a couple of scores from play.
He’s intelligent enough to always try and get into a position where the shot percentage is good, had a couple that he could have hit a pot shot at but made the move into a much better position and two points were the result. Even the wide he hit off his left in the second was not one I could fault him for taking on.

Shane Walsh nailed a great free into the wind in the first half and played well in general. I don’t know if he is ever going to be the type of player to totally take over a game but keeping to this level of performance every day is what he needs to be aiming for. Had a great solo run finishing with a point in the second half which was the best score of the match for me.
One slight criticism would be that he took one free in the closing stages off his left that was relatively in front of the posts, he may be ok with the left for the frees (he scored the last point with his left from a free, but that was from a way more natural left footer angle position) but he is clearly better kicking off his right, no issue when the angle suits but if it’s much of a muchness in front of the posts I’d be surprised if the right wouldn’t do the job better every time. One of the Galway spectators beside me at the match called it “showboating” but that’s maybe taking it a bit too far.
As I’ve said Shane Walsh just needs consistency in his performances and nothing else, he has to step up to be one of the leaders of the team now, he has all the talent and ability in the world but that now has to be shown match after match after match, the days of "potential" should be over.

Yesterday’s game would have confirmed my opinion that Patrick Sweeney isn’t up to this level, lost a couple of easy possessions that were hand passed straight into his chest, kicked 4 wides, two of them very poor misses, his point was a gimme in the “couldn’t miss” category.
Sweeney made one nice move on the sideline to make a Tyrone defender miss but, in contrast to Branigan, took a difficult shot on straight away when he had all the space in front of him to move into a better shooting position. Don’t seem to have the pace and the engine to be a working half forward either.
If he's not able to do it on a bog slow pitch in difficult January conditions, he hasn't a notion when the ground firms up and we all knew this beforehand anyway, cannot see the logic in persisting with him up front bar to give a more physical presence in those conditions than some of the other options.
In my opinion we would be better off seeing what Eoin Finnerty, Cunningham etc. will do it there, it's harsh to say it but whatever the question for Galway up front is, Sweeney is not the answer.

Comer is a beast when on form, nearly always wins the ball played into him, has plenty of pace and is a good finisher off left and right. He came out around midfield in the first half which negated the Galway inside threat a bit. Still has the habit of trying to bull through when it’s not on, that’s fine for one on ones like the first goal in their 21 where you’ll likely get a free at worst but out on the opposition 45 when Galway need to hold possession and kill the game off? It’s just not wise to take on another Tyrone player having already blown by two of them, just lay it off.
Needs to keep the cool better than he has previously as he will definitely be targeted for reactions, but the best of luck to him in his captain’s role for the team.

Varley started very well and while Galway were in the ascendancy in the first 15 minutes he was involved a nice bit, faded out after that when Comer moved out to the middle (that’s probably not just coincidence) and I thought he was practically non-existent in the second half which was disappointing after starting well.

Cunningham didn’t have much impact in the 20 minutes but that coincided with Tyrone getting a foothold, ball wasn’t down near their posts too often that in fairness. Tom Flynn wasn’t involved a whole lot for his ten minutes. Duane, O'Donnell and Armstrong got very little game time, if it was a substitution that was always going to be made then Duane should have been in place of Kelly a lot sooner.

The full match day panel outside the first 15 doesn’t ever seem to be listed by the Galway twitter accounts which I find annoying myself so for those not there to see the programme:

16. Ronan Ó Beoláin (Micheál Breathnachs)
17. Seán Armstrong (Salthill/Knocknacarra)
18. Padraic Cunningham (Headford)
19. Cein D’Arcy (Caherlistrane)
20. Johnny Duane (St. James)
21. Ciarán Duggan (Annaghdown)
22. Eoin Finnerty (Mountbellew/Moylough)
23. Tom Flynn (Athenry)
24. Gary O’Donnell (Tuam Stars)
15. Barry McHugh (Mountbellew/Moylough)
26. David Wynne (Moycullen)

With respect to KW on the line, how he could leave Patrick Sweeney and Sean Kelly on for as long as he did given the way that they were playing without changing it up was baffling. That game was clearly there to be won for Galway from early on, he has to be more ruthless and better on the in game adjustments.
Tactically we look unsophisticated compared to the top teams, playing a standard enough blanket that's reliant on individual flashes of inspiration and fast counter attacks. If that continues, as I expect it will, unless Galway are playing with a bit of a cushion lead I don't think it's a winning formula moving forward against the very best teams.
When Walsh scored to put Galway 1-7 to 0-4 up they should have pushed on and buried Tyrone, they retreated into their shell, lost concentration and made poor decisions when in good positions that they didn’t make earlier in the match. This is a familiar in game failing for Galway unfortunately.

That said I couldn’t fault Galway for effort, toughness and application yesterday and I don’t think you can hold their other limitations against them too much in light of that, at the end of the day they are not world beaters. Wins of any sort will build the confidence and let’s be realistic here, if they can stay up in Division one at all it’ll be a decent achievement.

Donegal put up a fair score against Kerry yesterday with only 14 men for the majority of it and they owe Galway one for last summer, it'll be very difficult away in Donegal but if Galway want to be serious about staying up then they have to put in a performance worthy of getting something out of the game.
Galway won't get anywhere near Dublin and always lose to Kerry at senior these days, that's not leaving much margin for error in the 4 other games, and given the overall respective quality of the teams, Mayo will hardly keep losing to Galway either.

What way did Tyrone play? Any discernible difference from previous years in terms of a system?

I'm not the best judge of a match involving Galway as I would tend to focus too much on the Galway performance and miss out on some things that the other team are doing, but I would say that I saw no obvious difference in the Tyrone approach compared to recent times.
Tyrone did not play well in general yesterday (Harte was very inaccurate on frees that you’d expect a decent freetaker to nail) and once Galway got a decent lead they didn’t look like ever winning but that said they had some poor misses in the first half (it would have been level at h/t if the Tyrone shooting boots were working) and it's only the first league game yet.

That's some review AFA. Anyone know how long Paddy Tally has been involved and i'd imagine he won't be able to give Galway his full focus until St Mary's are out of the Sigerson. I'd like to think his involvement will lead to a a much improved kick out strategy in time which is the teams biggest issue currently. I agree with AFA as I''m not overly convinced with Power's keeping but his kick out is far superior to Lavelle's though. I think Conroy came in for too much criticism last year against Kerry, at least he was moving and unfortunate that Power didn't pick him out more often; The same cannot be said of Flynn who for his size has been a disappointment.

Anyone else like to see Brannigan given a couple of games in the half back line? I realise he'd have to calm down his tackling but that can be worked on but he'd certainly add some pace to that line. McDaid is a huge loss as he looked like the had the lot to be a top class wingback and Molloys impresses me too but Corofin's run has ruled him out too.

I like everyone one else don't get the P Sweeney experiment, he's simply not good enough. Lets hope Cunningham is given a chance to impress next Sunday. When Armstrong, Burke, Daly, Lundy & Cummins return I'd be amazed if he saw any game time come the summer.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: mup on January 29, 2018, 01:07:31 PM
I see the analysts are at last beginning to pick up on Johnny Cooper. Has no problem throwing in a late stamp or a dig but as soon as a small fella shoves him in the back he's drops like a stone.

He's fast gaining a reputation. Then again Johnny has history too!!
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: whitey on January 29, 2018, 01:25:17 PM
I see the analysts are at last beginning to pick up on Johnny Cooper. Has no problem throwing in a late stamp or a dig but as soon as a small fella shoves him in the back he's drops like a stone.

He's fast gaining a reputation. Then again Johnny has history too!!

Never mind the 2 legged leg breaking late tackles
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Snapchap on January 29, 2018, 01:26:52 PM
Would the Tyrone V Galway game yesterday have seen a different outcome had Galway's goal been disallowed for over carrying? Just saw a video on twitter which shows a very clear 13 steps taken
https://twitter.com/donall_sally/status/957949947441229824 (https://twitter.com/donall_sally/status/957949947441229824)
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: An Fhairche Abu on January 29, 2018, 01:39:15 PM
Goals obviously change games but the way Tyrone were playing in general it's doubtful the result would have been that different.
If Tyrone fans want to console themselves that a decision made after 15 seconds, against a side that they were expected to comfortably defeat, fully determined the result then that's their prerogative.
In fairness given the 2 (I think) minutes of extra time in the first and the 4 in the second, it's hard to see how they could turn it around in basically a full 76 minutes.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Snapchap on January 29, 2018, 01:44:43 PM
Goals obviously change games but the way Tyrone were playing in general it's doubtful the result would have been that different.
If Tyrone fans want to console themselves that a decision made after 15 seconds, against a side that they were expected to comfortably defeat, fully determined the result then that's their prerogative.
In fairness given the 2 (I think) minutes of extra time in the first and the 4 in the second, it's hard to see how they could turn it around in basically a full 76 minutes.
Trust me it's no consolation. I expect Tyrone to be in the bottom half of the table. It's not long since we were relegated to Div 2 and I wouldn't be surprised to see it happen again. It would just be disappointing to see it happen and to be able to trace it back to a refereeing error like that. An early goal is a big thing, as it leaving you chasing a game. On the hour mark yesterday, Tyrone looked like they were going to pull it back from the brink. If that goal hadn't been allowed...well who knows.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: An Fhairche Abu on January 29, 2018, 01:54:25 PM
Galway were up 1-7 to 0-4 and were a man up, Tyrone should have been buried after that, it says a lot more about Galway's ongoing fragility than any Tyrone rearguard action.
If there's any Tyrone supporter that was actually at the match that thinks they were in with a shout only for the goal that's fine, I would disagree entirely.
Donegal got fucked by a double hop that wasn't pulled for literally the last score of the game to lose by a point, that's a decision to be moaning about.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Snapchap on January 29, 2018, 02:08:31 PM
Galway were up 1-7 to 0-4 and were a man up, Tyrone should have been buried after that, it says a lot more about Galway's ongoing fragility than any Tyrone rearguard action.
If there's any Tyrone supporter that was actually at the match that thinks they were in with a shout only for the goal that's fine, I would disagree entirely.
Donegal got fucked by a double hop that wasn't pulled for literally the last score of the game to lose by a point, that's a decision to be moaning about.

On 70 minutes, that goal was all that stood between the teams on the scoreboard. Most of the damage done by Galway was in the 15 minutes immediately after the goal. Would their tails have been up so much had the goal been disallowed? It's not beyond the realms of the imagination to suggest that it could have been a very different game had Galway not been awarded that goal. Again, I'm not suggesting that Tyrone definitely WOULD have won the game, but I am suggesting that there's more than a fair chance.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: mouview on January 29, 2018, 02:11:36 PM

Here is me imaging Mayo's starting full forward line scored 4-27 from play in 5 championship matches in Croker park last season!!

Actually I had a look at Mayo's starting forwards & sub forwards that came on (no midfielders or half backs), and they averaged 12 points from play per game in the championship last year!!

Galway starting forwards & sub forwards that came on (again no midfielders or half backs) and they average 8 points from play in the championship last year!!

So Tyrone forwards must be on the up if they are only slightly worse than Mayo's forwards! ;)

Yes, but Mayo couldn't put away a Galway team there for the taking last June in Salthill, missed chance after chance after chance v Derry in C'bar and struggled to overcome an inferior Kerry side. Their best forward in 2017 was in his 30s and, damningly, Dublin won the AI with 45% possession. Although with a probable inferior defensive unit than what Mayo have now, Galway won 2 AIs because of what they had up front. Mayo are a very solid and hard-working side but it's knocking too much out of them to earn their scores against the stronger teams.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: From the Bunker on January 29, 2018, 02:21:27 PM

Here is me imaging Mayo's starting full forward line scored 4-27 from play in 5 championship matches in Croker park last season!!

Actually I had a look at Mayo's starting forwards & sub forwards that came on (no midfielders or half backs), and they averaged 12 points from play per game in the championship last year!!

Galway starting forwards & sub forwards that came on (again no midfielders or half backs) and they average 8 points from play in the championship last year!!

So Tyrone forwards must be on the up if they are only slightly worse than Mayo's forwards! ;)

Yes, but Mayo couldn't put away a Galway team there for the taking last June in Salthill, missed chance after chance after chance v Derry in C'bar and struggled to overcome an inferior Kerry side. Their best forward in 2017 was in his 30s and, damningly, Dublin won the AI with 45% possession. Although with a probable inferior defensive unit than what Mayo have now, Galway won 2 AIs because of what they had up front. Mayo are a very solid and hard-working side but it's knocking too much out of them to earn their scores against the stronger teams.

God, Galway people still harping on about forwards they had nearly 20 years ago.  ;D
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: An Fhairche Abu on January 29, 2018, 02:27:55 PM
Galway were up 1-7 to 0-4 and were a man up, Tyrone should have been buried after that, it says a lot more about Galway's ongoing fragility than any Tyrone rearguard action.
If there's any Tyrone supporter that was actually at the match that thinks they were in with a shout only for the goal that's fine, I would disagree entirely.
Donegal got fucked by a double hop that wasn't pulled for literally the last score of the game to lose by a point, that's a decision to be moaning about.

On 70 minutes, that goal was all that stood between the teams on the scoreboard. Most of the damage done by Galway was in the 15 minutes immediately after the goal. Would their tails have been up so much had the goal been disallowed? It's not beyond the realms of the imagination to suggest that it could have been a very different game had Galway not been awarded that goal. Again, I'm not suggesting that Tyrone definitely WOULD have won the game, but I am suggesting that there's more than a fair chance.

Were you at the match?
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: mouview on January 29, 2018, 02:29:03 PM
Galway were up 1-7 to 0-4 and were a man up, Tyrone should have been buried after that, it says a lot more about Galway's ongoing fragility than any Tyrone rearguard action.
If there's any Tyrone supporter that was actually at the match that thinks they were in with a shout only for the goal that's fine, I would disagree entirely.
Donegal got fucked by a double hop that wasn't pulled for literally the last score of the game to lose by a point, that's a decision to be moaning about.

Good analysis as usual AFA. Agree, Tyrone should have been buried yesterday; playing in Tuam, 50 mins with an extra man and 35 with the elements, Galway should have romped home. Don't like repeating it to death, but KW's decisions always seem to be a topic for discussion after Galway's matches, it's like he's a handbrake on the team. I mean, why bring on Army yesterday? A niggly match is no place for a man with a back condition to be managed, the game was over, as the referee blew the final whistle about 30 seconds later, we know what he can bring to the team. Why not throw in a young lad? Why delay so long always making changes?

For the game itself, perhaps for the first time ever under KW's reign the FB line wasn't the major problem. This time it has migrated outwards. It's very early but Sean Andy looks a good 'un and Kerin is spiky in the corner, even if unnecessarily narky at times. HB line was middling and too attack-oriented. Not Heaney's greatest fan, but he's more of a wing-forward anyway I think. C Sweeney will get destroyed by Dublin/Kerry and maybe sooner. Conroy mixed the good with the ordinary, it just doesn't look as if he'll ever be the player he promised to be once. Cooke ok. Shane Walsh needs to use his talent more in the service of the team, the odd scoring excursion is no longer enough. Maybe Div. I will finally teach him how to play county football. Comer should have been left at FF all through the second half and pile ball into him. Playing with an extra man and there was still only a lone forward for spells in the second half. Enough has been said of P Sweeney.

Yesterday's result probably only means that Tyrone will finish below us. Dublin/Kerry are likely guaranteed defeats and Donegal next week is no gimme, Letterkenny or no. Monaghan at home is a must-win so Mayo/Kildare games will be key I feel.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: mouview on January 29, 2018, 02:30:11 PM

Here is me imaging Mayo's starting full forward line scored 4-27 from play in 5 championship matches in Croker park last season!!

Actually I had a look at Mayo's starting forwards & sub forwards that came on (no midfielders or half backs), and they averaged 12 points from play per game in the championship last year!!

Galway starting forwards & sub forwards that came on (again no midfielders or half backs) and they average 8 points from play in the championship last year!!

So Tyrone forwards must be on the up if they are only slightly worse than Mayo's forwards! ;)

Yes, but Mayo couldn't put away a Galway team there for the taking last June in Salthill, missed chance after chance after chance v Derry in C'bar and struggled to overcome an inferior Kerry side. Their best forward in 2017 was in his 30s and, damningly, Dublin won the AI with 45% possession. Although with a probable inferior defensive unit than what Mayo have now, Galway won 2 AIs because of what they had up front. Mayo are a very solid and hard-working side but it's knocking too much out of them to earn their scores against the stronger teams.

God, Galway people still harping on about forwards they had nearly 20 years ago.  ;D

No. I'm harping on about the forwards Mayo don't have now.  :-\
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Snapchap on January 29, 2018, 02:32:03 PM
Galway were up 1-7 to 0-4 and were a man up, Tyrone should have been buried after that, it says a lot more about Galway's ongoing fragility than any Tyrone rearguard action.
If there's any Tyrone supporter that was actually at the match that thinks they were in with a shout only for the goal that's fine, I would disagree entirely.
Donegal got fucked by a double hop that wasn't pulled for literally the last score of the game to lose by a point, that's a decision to be moaning about.

On 70 minutes, that goal was all that stood between the teams on the scoreboard. Most of the damage done by Galway was in the 15 minutes immediately after the goal. Would their tails have been up so much had the goal been disallowed? It's not beyond the realms of the imagination to suggest that it could have been a very different game had Galway not been awarded that goal. Again, I'm not suggesting that Tyrone definitely WOULD have won the game, but I am suggesting that there's more than a fair chance.

Were you at the match?

For my sins. Is it beyond the realms of possibility to suggest that if an illegal goal was the only score separating the teams on 70 minutes, that it could have been a different result had the goal been disallowed? Is it beyond the realms of possibility that Galway mightn't have enjoyed such a blistering first 15 minutes had they not have been awarded the goal? Is it beyond the realms of possibility that Tyrone might have performed a bit better in the first 15 minutes had they not been hit with such a sucker punch in the first 15 seconds? I just don't think you can answer yes to any of those questions.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: rosnarun on January 29, 2018, 02:43:05 PM
Would the Tyrone V Galway game yesterday have seen a different outcome had Galway's goal been disallowed for over carrying? Just saw a video on twitter which shows a very clear 13 steps taken
https://twitter.com/donall_sally/status/957949947441229824 (https://twitter.com/donall_sally/status/957949947441229824)
if they counted steps Con o callaghans early goeal in the AIF would have been ruled out , but that didn't happen either
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Fuzzman on January 29, 2018, 02:48:02 PM
Snapchat, we were discussing that goal as well on the train home and whilst I didn't notice the foul on the ball we did think how much did it affect their mindset and how they are not good at chasing a game.
To me though Tyrone remind me of playing with the "brakes on" (del amitri song)
Nothing is done at pace or freedom any more. Everything is so rehearsed and calculated.
I was pointing out yesterday how often the default setting it to turn back and look for a pass behind you now as in someone off your shoulder to carry it rather than hit it into space or in front of a forward coming out to win it in front of his man.

It's all just so laboured and slow for me and worst of all predictable. In all sports if teams know what your gonna do and you do it then its easier for them to defend against. Remember Mulgrew's great goal against Armagh last year. That came from quick forward passing and off the ball running into space.

I'd say Brian Fenton must be relishing another bite at the red hand.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: An Fhairche Abu on January 29, 2018, 02:50:13 PM
Galway were up 1-7 to 0-4 and were a man up, Tyrone should have been buried after that, it says a lot more about Galway's ongoing fragility than any Tyrone rearguard action.
If there's any Tyrone supporter that was actually at the match that thinks they were in with a shout only for the goal that's fine, I would disagree entirely.
Donegal got fucked by a double hop that wasn't pulled for literally the last score of the game to lose by a point, that's a decision to be moaning about.

On 70 minutes, that goal was all that stood between the teams on the scoreboard. Most of the damage done by Galway was in the 15 minutes immediately after the goal. Would their tails have been up so much had the goal been disallowed? It's not beyond the realms of the imagination to suggest that it could have been a very different game had Galway not been awarded that goal. Again, I'm not suggesting that Tyrone definitely WOULD have won the game, but I am suggesting that there's more than a fair chance.

Were you at the match?

For my sins. Is it beyond the realms of possibility to suggest that if an illegal goal was the only score separating the teams on 70 minutes, that it could have been a different result had the goal been disallowed? Is it beyond the realms of possibility that Galway mightn't have enjoyed such a blistering first 15 minutes had they not have been awarded the goal? Is it beyond the realms of possibility that Tyrone might have performed a bit better in the first 15 minutes had they not been hit with such a sucker punch in the first 15 seconds? I just don't think you can answer yes to any of those questions.

Sure neither you nor I can prove a hypothetical either way of course, if you stretch it far enough nothing is beyond the realms of physical possibility at all in terms of what ifs. 

It's apparent that there's nothing I'm going to say that'll change your mind and vice versa. I can only judge the teams on what I witnessed actually happening yesterday, goal or no goal at the start, in my opinion Tyrone got what they deserved out of the match, nothing. Again that's only my opinion, you were there so had as good a view of things as myself and you have a differing viewpoint that I cannot get on board with, that's no harm either.
If the match was played again next Sunday I wouldn't be surprised if Galway lost by a greater margin than we won yesterday, Tyrone just didn't have a good day at the office.

Best of luck to ye in the remaining Division One matches anyway.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Farrandeelin on January 29, 2018, 03:10:08 PM
Snapchap typifies what went wrong for Tyrone. Blaming the ref is no good, the lack of introspection from posters like him cost Tyrone. 8)
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: trueblue1234 on January 29, 2018, 03:12:57 PM
Snapchap typifies what went wrong for Tyrone. Blaming the ref is no good, the lack of introspection from posters like him cost Tyrone. 8)

Delusions of grandeur. 
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Snapchap on January 29, 2018, 03:13:41 PM
Snapchat, we were discussing that goal as well on the train home and whilst I didn't notice the foul on the ball we did think how much did it affect their mindset and how they are not good at chasing a game.
To me though Tyrone remind me of playing with the "brakes on" (del amitri song)
Nothing is done at pace or freedom any more. Everything is so rehearsed and calculated.
I was pointing out yesterday how often the default setting it to turn back and look for a pass behind you now as in someone off your shoulder to carry it rather than hit it into space or in front of a forward coming out to win it in front of his man.

It's all just so laboured and slow for me and worst of all predictable. In all sports if teams know what your gonna do and you do it then its easier for them to defend against. Remember Mulgrew's great goal against Armagh last year. That came from quick forward passing and off the ball running into space.

I'd say Brian Fenton must be relishing another bite at the red hand.

Agreed 100% on all the above.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Snapchap on January 29, 2018, 03:16:41 PM
Snapchap typifies what went wrong for Tyrone. Blaming the ref is no good, the lack of introspection from posters like him cost Tyrone. 8)

I don't blame the ref. Tyrone didn't deserve the win. We have been over-rated for quite a few years. How long is it since we beat a big team in the championship? If we are to survive in Division 1, we need a bit of luck. My only suggestion is that the goal was clearly illegal and maybe, who knows, but maybe, if it had been disallowed, Tyrone could well have sneaked a draw or a win. As I say, that goal was all that was between the teams on 70 minutes.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Avondhu star on January 29, 2018, 05:22:39 PM
Dublin will relish the chance to essentially kill Tyrone next Saturday night - promises to be a great game in Omagh (weather permitting!)

Unless Tyrone improve dramatically in 7 days it will be a shite game. I dont think it will finish 15 a side though!
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: GetOverTheBar on January 29, 2018, 05:25:41 PM
Dublin will relish the chance to essentially kill Tyrone next Saturday night - promises to be a great game in Omagh (weather permitting!)

Unless Tyrone improve dramatically in 7 days it will be a shite game. I dont think it will finish 15 a side though!

Maybe got the wording wrong, great spectacle....to begin with  :-X
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: seafoid on January 29, 2018, 07:10:33 PM
Tyrone should try out some new talent. They aren't going to win anything this year by the looks of things.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Chimley on January 29, 2018, 07:13:20 PM
Tyrone should try out some new talent. They aren't going to win anything this year by the looks of things.

It's a bit premature to be writing epitaphs in January.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: From the Bunker on January 29, 2018, 07:27:22 PM

Here is me imaging Mayo's starting full forward line scored 4-27 from play in 5 championship matches in Croker park last season!!

Actually I had a look at Mayo's starting forwards & sub forwards that came on (no midfielders or half backs), and they averaged 12 points from play per game in the championship last year!!

Galway starting forwards & sub forwards that came on (again no midfielders or half backs) and they average 8 points from play in the championship last year!!

So Tyrone forwards must be on the up if they are only slightly worse than Mayo's forwards! ;)

Yes, but Mayo couldn't put away a Galway team there for the taking last June in Salthill, missed chance after chance after chance v Derry in C'bar and struggled to overcome an inferior Kerry side. Their best forward in 2017 was in his 30s and, damningly, Dublin won the AI with 45% possession. Although with a probable inferior defensive unit than what Mayo have now, Galway won 2 AIs because of what they had up front. Mayo are a very solid and hard-working side but it's knocking too much out of them to earn their scores against the stronger teams.

God, Galway people still harping on about forwards they had nearly 20 years ago.  ;D

No. I'm harping on about the forwards Mayo don't have now.  :-\

But we have forwards. How otherwise do we get so far every year? Einstein!
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: macdanger2 on January 29, 2018, 08:01:11 PM
Where's Fergal Boland this year? He looked very good in the league last year albeit a bit light.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Captain Obvious on January 29, 2018, 08:01:35 PM
Tyrone should try out some new talent. They aren't going to win anything this year by the looks of things.
This and last year they have given a run out to plenty of new talent. Tyrone lost to Donegal in the league last year it didn't stop Tyrone from beating Donegal well in the championship and winning another Ulster title.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: longballin on January 29, 2018, 08:07:51 PM
Tyrone should try out some new talent. They aren't going to win anything this year by the looks of things.
This and last year they have given a run out to plenty of new talent. Tyrone lost to Donegal in the league last year it didn't stop Tyrone from beating Donegal well in the championship and winning another Ulster title.

Ulster is well behind again...
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: manfromdelmonte on January 29, 2018, 08:20:05 PM
Kerry do some amount of cynical stuff like stopping the quick free after a mark or taking out a player to create an overlap
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: MayoBuck on January 29, 2018, 08:24:56 PM
Where's Fergal Boland this year? He looked very good in the league last year albeit a bit light.

Was hurling with Tooreen until last weekend so will probably see him against Kerry. Apparently he was our standout player in a challenge game vs Corofin on Saturday.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Captain Obvious on January 29, 2018, 08:43:47 PM
Tyrone should try out some new talent. They aren't going to win anything this year by the looks of things.
This and last year they have given a run out to plenty of new talent. Tyrone lost to Donegal in the league last year it didn't stop Tyrone from beating Donegal well in the championship and winning another Ulster title.

Ulster is well behind again...

All Ireland Quarter finalists last summer.

Ulster 3
Connacht 3
Leinster 1
Munster 1
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: seafoid on January 29, 2018, 09:13:26 PM
Tyrone should try out some new talent. They aren't going to win anything this year by the looks of things.
This and last year they have given a run out to plenty of new talent. Tyrone lost to Donegal in the league last year it didn't stop Tyrone from beating Donegal well in the championship and winning another Ulster title.

Ulster is well behind again...

All Ireland Quarter finalists last summer.

Ulster 3
Connacht 3
Leinster 1
Munster 1
It would be moe interesting to look at net loss in points in ultimate round ....
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: whitey on January 29, 2018, 09:14:52 PM

Here is me imaging Mayo's starting full forward line scored 4-27 from play in 5 championship matches in Croker park last season!!

Actually I had a look at Mayo's starting forwards & sub forwards that came on (no midfielders or half backs), and they averaged 12 points from play per game in the championship last year!!

Galway starting forwards & sub forwards that came on (again no midfielders or half backs) and they average 8 points from play in the championship last year!!

So Tyrone forwards must be on the up if they are only slightly worse than Mayo's forwards! ;)

Yes, but Mayo couldn't put away a Galway team there for the taking last June in Salthill, missed chance after chance after chance v Derry in C'bar and struggled to overcome an inferior Kerry side. Their best forward in 2017 was in his 30s and, damningly, Dublin won the AI with 45% possession. Although with a probable inferior defensive unit than what Mayo have now, Galway won 2 AIs because of what they had up front. Mayo are a very solid and hard-working side but it's knocking too much out of them to earn their scores against the stronger teams.

God, Galway people still harping on about forwards they had nearly 20 years ago.  ;D

No. I'm harping on about the forwards Mayo don't have now.  :-\

But we have forwards. How otherwise do we get so far every year? Einstein!

Mayos tally in September was the highest tally for a losing team in 40 years.....and that against the greatest team in the history of the game
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: longballin on January 29, 2018, 09:19:03 PM

Here is me imaging Mayo's starting full forward line scored 4-27 from play in 5 championship matches in Croker park last season!!

Actually I had a look at Mayo's starting forwards & sub forwards that came on (no midfielders or half backs), and they averaged 12 points from play per game in the championship last year!!

Galway starting forwards & sub forwards that came on (again no midfielders or half backs) and they average 8 points from play in the championship last year!!

So Tyrone forwards must be on the up if they are only slightly worse than Mayo's forwards! ;)

Yes, but Mayo couldn't put away a Galway team there for the taking last June in Salthill, missed chance after chance after chance v Derry in C'bar and struggled to overcome an inferior Kerry side. Their best forward in 2017 was in his 30s and, damningly, Dublin won the AI with 45% possession. Although with a probable inferior defensive unit than what Mayo have now, Galway won 2 AIs because of what they had up front. Mayo are a very solid and hard-working side but it's knocking too much out of them to earn their scores against the stronger teams.

God, Galway people still harping on about forwards they had nearly 20 years ago.  ;D

No. I'm harping on about the forwards Mayo don't have now.  :-\

But we have forwards. How otherwise do we get so far every year? Einstein!

Mayos tally in September was the highest tally for a losing team in 40 years.....and that against the greatest team in the history of the game

The Kerry 70s team... sure theyre old men now
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: macdanger2 on January 29, 2018, 09:26:58 PM
Where's Fergal Boland this year? He looked very good in the league last year albeit a bit light.

Was hurling with Tooreen until last weekend so will probably see him against Kerry. Apparently he was our standout player in a challenge game vs Corofin on Saturday.

Cheers
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: SouthDublinBro on January 29, 2018, 10:05:40 PM
Monaghan are a disgrace.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: From the Bunker on January 29, 2018, 10:09:05 PM
Monaghan are a disgrace.

Expand!
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Maroon Manc on January 30, 2018, 10:07:37 AM
I've always thought Mayo were a forward short of winning an AI but that can't be said of last year, 10 points from play for Moran, COC, Doherty McLaughlin is a great return and would assume a lot more than the previous finals.

The difference was that Dublin were bringing McMenamon, Brogan, Flynn, Costello & Connolly off the bench compared to Drake, Loftus, Kirby, Coen & D O'Connor.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Dinny Breen on January 30, 2018, 10:12:47 AM
Is McManus available for Monaghan this weekend?
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Main Street on January 30, 2018, 12:02:38 PM
Considering his general physical state, I'd hope that Conor is only used sparingly in the league. I heard an interview with him on OTB some weeks ago. He said he had more issues than usual with his hips in the 2017 league campaign and played some games while unfit, which ended up taking more toll and more rehab work.

I'd say the Monaghan team should be fresh enough for the Kildare game after their sporting encounter with the gentlemanly Mayo, who indeed do embody the (almost forgotten) true corinthian spirit of the GAA.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Farrandeelin on January 30, 2018, 12:18:59 PM
Considering his general physical state, I'd hope that Conor is only used sparingly in the league. I heard an interview with him on OTB some weeks ago. He said he had more issues than usual with his hips in the 2017 league campaign and played some games while unfit, which ended up taking more toll and more rehab work.

I'd say the Monaghan team should be fresh enough for the Kildare game after their sporting encounter with the gentlemanly Mayo, who indeed do embody the (almost forgotten) true corinthian spirit of the GAA.

For finals. Sure it's all about taking part  ;)
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Dinny Breen on January 30, 2018, 01:14:47 PM
Considering his general physical state, I'd hope that Conor is only used sparingly in the league. I heard an interview with him on OTB some weeks ago. He said he had more issues than usual with his hips in the 2017 league campaign and played some games while unfit, which ended up taking more toll and more rehab work.

I'd say the Monaghan team should be fresh enough for the Kildare game after their sporting encounter with the gentlemanly Mayo, who indeed do embody the (almost forgotten) true corinthian spirit of the GAA.

Good for Kildare if he's out but I like seeing the top stars up close and personal and our shit-hole is one ground where that is possible.

Dublin Joe is the referee Sunday..




 his last visit to Newbridge (http://www.the42.ie/joe-mcquillan-kildare-fans-1002100-Jul2013)
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Main Street on January 30, 2018, 01:18:29 PM
I did note that the Monaghan V Kildare game will be held in the celestial environs of Newbridge GAA.

Do they still have that 'Michéal O'Heir Commentary Box' there? hardly big enough for the great man to fit  inside. More like the groundsman found 2 abandoned dog houses at the local dump and stuck them together.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: seafoid on January 30, 2018, 07:42:44 PM
I did note that the Monaghan V Kildare game will be held in the celestial environs of Newbridge GAA.

Do they still have that 'Michéal O'Heir Commentary Box' there? hardly big enough for the great man to fit  inside. More like the groundsman found 2 abandoned dog houses at the local dump and stuck them together.
If it wasn't for the 2 Lehman Brothers Newbridge would be a jewel amongst GAA grounds
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Farrandeelin on January 30, 2018, 11:09:45 PM
Dublin, Monaghan to win and a draw between Donegal and Galway. For the big one the heart says Mayo, head doesn't know.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Blowitupref on January 31, 2018, 12:55:31 AM
Games very hard to call in Div one this weekend.

Mayo v Kerry - Mayo got a hard earned away win last Sunday but its MacHale Park where they had trouble in recent years in the NFL. Kerry meanwhile were lucky enough to win against Donegal while they are missing a number of first choice players more so than Mayo.

Kildare v Monaghan - The availability of Conor McManus will likely swing this game. kildare must win their home games to stand any chance of staying up how they recover from a very poor 2nd half against Dublin will be a deciding factor.

Tyrone v Dublin - Home advantage should count for something and sure to be reaction from Tyrone after that round 1 defeat and not forgetting the trimming they took off Dublin in their last game. The league encounter last year was a draw if that counts for anything this weekend?

Donegal v Galway - Great win for Galway last weekend can they back that up with another win here? playing this game in Letterkenny helps their cause as Donegal unlike Ballybofey don't have a great record there.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: cornetto on January 31, 2018, 12:34:07 PM
Mayo not great at home, but kerry defence poor against donegal,
Mayo win.
Kildare need to win this one and in fairness were very good in the first half and could have had another couple of goals,
Kildare win.
Tyrone, Dublin to be a feisty affair,Tyrone hurting from last week and home support to shade a tight game.
Donegal don't have a great record in letterkenny but done enough in killarney to suggest they are more attack minded.
Galway are not bad on the road but home advantage to swing this one.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Avondhu star on January 31, 2018, 01:16:35 PM
I've always thought Mayo were a forward short of winning an AI but that can't be said of last year, 10 points from play for Moran, COC, Doherty McLaughlin is a great return and would assume a lot more than the previous finals.

The difference was that Dublin were bringing McMenamon, Brogan, Flynn, Costello & Connolly off the bench compared to Drake, Loftus, Kirby, Coen & D O'Connor.
Mayo get All Stars for defenders. The Dubs get them for midfielders and forwards. Theres a lesson there. Mayo just need a small improvement in scoring averages to make the winners stand
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Main Street on January 31, 2018, 01:22:36 PM
Games very hard to call in Div one this weekend.
Kildare v Monaghan - The availability of Conor McManus will likely swing this game. kildare must win their home games to stand any chance of staying up how they recover from a very poor 2nd half against Dublin will be a deciding factor.
Conor McManus' availability is very much in doubt, in his stead, Jack McCarron will surely swing it.

We need to exact revenge on Kildare for the historic injustice inflicted upon us after an ill-tempered Kildare player brought  a div 2 league game in 2012 at Clones into disrepute. The bold Joe McQuillan dealt with the disciplinary matters after an affray broke out as players made their way to the dressing rooms at ht. Kildare's Brian Flanagan was red carded, however (innocent for the most part) Monaghan were later punished by petty minded Croke Park minions for their minor role in causing that affray by losing home advantage v Galway and subsequently lost that game. That's how Kildare managed to be a contributing factor which consigned Monaghan to the ignominy of Div 3 for a year. We haven't met Kildare in the league since, our paths haven't crossed as we rose up with honour to div 1 and they fell all the way down to Div 3.

Now Joe is back as referee and that historic injustice needs to be rectified.


Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Captain Scarlet on January 31, 2018, 02:10:08 PM
Main Street that was very odd that day. I was at it and myself and a Farney friend were far from vexed at the row. Then Flano got a red, and I think him and Dessie were only ones to throw anything like a slap.
The real issue came when I put on the radio on the way home. Christ, one woman texted in saying her son was never to be allowed play football again!
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Cunny Funt on January 31, 2018, 02:32:07 PM
Mayo not great at home, but kerry defence poor against donegal,
Mayo win.
Kildare need to win this one and in fairness were very good in the first half and could have had another couple of goals,
Kildare win.
Tyrone, Dublin to be a feisty affair,Tyrone hurting from last week and home support to shade a tight game.
Donegal don't have a great record in letterkenny but done enough in killarney to suggest they are more attack minded.
Galway are not bad on the road but home advantage to swing this one.

Apparently Donegal have won just twice in 13 attempts in Letterkenny meanwhile in Ballybofey have not lost there in 19 League or Championship games.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: J70 on January 31, 2018, 06:58:01 PM
Mayo not great at home, but kerry defence poor against donegal,
Mayo win.
Kildare need to win this one and in fairness were very good in the first half and could have had another couple of goals,
Kildare win.
Tyrone, Dublin to be a feisty affair,Tyrone hurting from last week and home support to shade a tight game.
Donegal don't have a great record in letterkenny but done enough in killarney to suggest they are more attack minded.
Galway are not bad on the road but home advantage to swing this one.

Apparently Donegal have won just twice in 13 attempts in Letterkenny meanwhile in Ballybofey have not lost there in 19 League or Championship games.

Think Down in the 2010 championship were the last team to win in Ballybofey in league or championship.

I’d say Ballyshannon is similar too, although the last loss might be more recent.

Don’t know what the problem is with O’Donnell Park.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: seafoid on January 31, 2018, 07:26:54 PM
Mayo not great at home, but kerry defence poor against donegal,
Mayo win.
Kildare need to win this one and in fairness were very good in the first half and could have had another couple of goals,
Kildare win.
Tyrone, Dublin to be a feisty affair,Tyrone hurting from last week and home support to shade a tight game.
Donegal don't have a great record in letterkenny but done enough in killarney to suggest they are more attack minded.
Galway are not bad on the road but home advantage to swing this one.

Apparently Donegal have won just twice in 13 attempts in Letterkenny meanwhile in Ballybofey have not lost there in 19 League or Championship games.

Think Down in the 2010 championship were the last team to win in Ballybofey in league or championship.

I’d say Ballyshannon is similar too, although the last loss might be more recent.

Don’t know what the problem is with O’Donnell Park.

Sounds like it could be the fairies . Were any fairy forts destroyed in the north of the county?

"It is widely believed that the demise of Sean Quinn’s cement and insurance empire in Cavan and of John DeLorean’s sports car industry in Belfast were directly attributable to the conscious destruction of “sacred” ringforts."
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: From the Bunker on January 31, 2018, 07:34:36 PM
Mayo not great at home, but kerry defence poor against donegal,
Mayo win.
Kildare need to win this one and in fairness were very good in the first half and could have had another couple of goals,
Kildare win.
Tyrone, Dublin to be a feisty affair,Tyrone hurting from last week and home support to shade a tight game.
Donegal don't have a great record in letterkenny but done enough in killarney to suggest they are more attack minded.
Galway are not bad on the road but home advantage to swing this one.

Apparently Donegal have won just twice in 13 attempts in Letterkenny meanwhile in Ballybofey have not lost there in 19 League or Championship games.

Think Down in the 2010 championship were the last team to win in Ballybofey in league or championship.

I’d say Ballyshannon is similar too, although the last loss might be more recent.

Don’t know what the problem is with O’Donnell Park.

Sounds like it could be the fairies . Were any fairy forts destroyed in the north of the county?

"It is widely believed that the demise of Sean Quinn’s cement and insurance empire in Cavan and of John DeLorean’s sports car industry in Belfast were directly attributable to the conscious destruction of “sacred” ringforts."


Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on February 01, 2018, 09:30:43 PM
Many Monaghan starters play Sigerson this week?
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: twohands!!! on February 02, 2018, 04:21:14 PM
Tyrone
1. Niall Morgan (Éadan na dTorc)

2. Ciaran McLaughlin (An Omaigh)
3. Cathal McCarron (An Droim Mór)
4. Hugh Pat McGeary (Cabhán a’Chaortainn)

5. Tiernan McCann (Coill an Chlochair)
6. Pádraig Hampsey (Oileán a’Ghuail)
7. Peter Harte (Aireagal Chiaráin)

8. Matthew Donnelly (Trí Leac)
9. Declan McClure (Cluain Eo)

10. Richard Donnelly (Trí Leac)
11. Niall Sludden (An Droim Mhór)
12. Kieran McGeary (Cabhán a’Chaortainn)

13. Lee Brennan (Trí Leac)
14. Cathal McShane (E. R. Uí Néill)
15. Connor McAliskey (Cluain Eo)

Subs

16. Mickey O’Neill (Cluain Eo)
17. Mark Bradley (Coill an Chlochair)
18. Rory Brennan (Trí Leac)
19. Frank Burns (Cabhán a’Chaortainn)
20. Conall McCann (Coill an Chlochair)
21. Aidan McCrory (Aireagal Chiaráin)
22. Michael McKernan (Oileán a’Ghuail)
23. Ronan McNabb (An Droim Mór)
24. Ronan McNamee (Achadh Uí Aráin)
25. Padraig McNulty (Dún Geanainn)
26. Ronan O’Neill (An Omaigh)

5 changes to the starting 15 from the Galway game

Ciaran McLaughlin, Cathal McCarron, Declan McClure, Richard Donnelly,  and Lee Brennan come in.

Michael McKernan, Ronan McNamee, Padraig McNulty, Conal McCann, Darren McCurry out.




Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: slippery dodger on February 02, 2018, 09:43:40 PM
Episode 1 of Allianz Leagues Reloaded
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1lQssZaPgM
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Main Street on February 03, 2018, 12:01:34 AM
Monaghan team v Kildare
Ryan Wylie suspended, replaced by another Ballybay stalwart Dessie Ward.
Conor McManus still absent.
4 new lads this year, Paraic McGuirk, Niall Kearns, Barry Kerr and David Garland all doing well and showing promise.

Rory Beggan;
Kieran Duffy, Conor Boyle, Barry Kerr; Fintan Kelly, Dessie Ward, Karl O'Connell;  Darren Hughes, Niall Kearns;
Owen Duffy, Paraic McGuirk, Ryan McAnespie;  Conor McCarthy, Jack McCarron, David Garland.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on February 03, 2018, 12:03:35 AM
Feely out for Kildare so Monaghan would have to made slight to moderate favourites for this.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: straightred on February 03, 2018, 12:27:17 AM
Monaghan team v Kildare
Ryan Wylie suspended, replaced by another Ballybay stalwart Dessie Ward.
Conor McManus still absent.
4 new lads this year, Paraic McGuirk, Niall Kearns, Barry Kerr and David Garland all doing well and showing promise.

Rory Beggan;
Kieran Duffy, Conor Boyle, Barry Kerr; Fintan Kelly, Dessie Ward, Karl O'Connell;  Darren Hughes, Niall Kearns;
Owen Duffy, Paraic McGuirk, Ryan McAnespie;  Conor McCarthy, Jack McCarron, David Garland.

Is McGinn not back yet from injury?
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Main Street on February 03, 2018, 02:12:30 PM
I don't know about mcGinn.

Feely out for Kildare so Monaghan would have to made slight to moderate favourites for this.
I suspect you are just being superstitious and will use any little excuse to hand over the mythical burden of favourite's tag. Kildare are still the clear slight favourites for this game.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Dinny Breen on February 03, 2018, 09:01:24 PM
14 man Dublin beat Tyrone by 6 points in Omagh.

I would laugh at how people think somehow Dublin wouldn't have it easy if they played in the Ulster championship except it's just not funny anymore. A Dublin team back training 3 weeks.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: From the Bunker on February 03, 2018, 09:42:07 PM
14 man Dublin beat Tyrone by 6 points in Omagh.

I would laugh at how people think somehow Dublin wouldn't have it easy if they played in the Ulster championship except it's just not funny anymore. A Dublin team back training 3 weeks.

The wind is gone out of Tyrone! They have been talked up the last two years in particular. 
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Il Bomber Destro on February 03, 2018, 10:27:20 PM
14 man Dublin beat Tyrone by 6 points in Omagh.

I would laugh at how people think somehow Dublin wouldn't have it easy if they played in the Ulster championship except it's just not funny anymore. A Dublin team back training 3 weeks.

The only team to beat Dublin in Championship under Jim Gavin are an Ulster side.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: From the Bunker on February 03, 2018, 10:28:35 PM
14 man Dublin beat Tyrone by 6 points in Omagh.

I would laugh at how people think somehow Dublin wouldn't have it easy if they played in the Ulster championship except it's just not funny anymore. A Dublin team back training 3 weeks.

The only team to beat Dublin in Championship under Jim Gavin are an Ulster side.

Jesus wept!
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: straightred on February 03, 2018, 10:37:51 PM
14 man Dublin beat Tyrone by 6 points in Omagh.

I would laugh at how people think somehow Dublin wouldn't have it easy if they played in the Ulster championship except it's just not funny anymore. A Dublin team back training 3 weeks.


and 13 man Kerry make Mayo look silly in castlebar - in know its early but Kerry seem to be bringing lads through and I'd say they'll be the biggest threat to Dublin

Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: seafoid on February 03, 2018, 10:41:49 PM
14 man Dublin beat Tyrone by 6 points in Omagh.

I would laugh at how people think somehow Dublin wouldn't have it easy if they played in the Ulster championship except it's just not funny anymore. A Dublin team back training 3 weeks.


and 13 man Kerry make Mayo look silly in castlebar - in know its early but Kerry seem to be bringing lads through and I'd say they'll be the biggest threat to Dublin
Sher didn't they win the league last year and adopt the mantle of great white hope. I don't remember them playing in the AIF.
Kerry have been ritually humiliated by the Dubs for the last few years. Tyrone was bad but this is probably worse
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: From the Bunker on February 03, 2018, 10:43:42 PM
14 man Dublin beat Tyrone by 6 points in Omagh.

I would laugh at how people think somehow Dublin wouldn't have it easy if they played in the Ulster championship except it's just not funny anymore. A Dublin team back training 3 weeks.


and 13 man Kerry make Mayo look silly in castlebar - in know its early but Kerry seem to be bringing lads through and I'd say they'll be the biggest threat to Dublin

When you say Biggest threat. Do you mean giving them a bit of a game and still losing? Also, it's kinda depressing that we are evolving back to the 70's where it's all about Dublin and Kerry again. Montrose will be happy! They can re-run their old montages and harp on about the good old days again.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: straightred on February 03, 2018, 10:54:12 PM
14 man Dublin beat Tyrone by 6 points in Omagh.

I would laugh at how people think somehow Dublin wouldn't have it easy if they played in the Ulster championship except it's just not funny anymore. A Dublin team back training 3 weeks.


and 13 man Kerry make Mayo look silly in castlebar - in know its early but Kerry seem to be bringing lads through and I'd say they'll be the biggest threat to Dublin

When you say Biggest threat. Do you mean giving them a bit of a game and still losing? Also, it's kinda depressing that we are evolving back to the 70's where it's all about Dublin and Kerry again. Montrose will be happy! They can re-run their old montages and harp on about the good old days again.

probably - because with the super 8 we are less likely to see a shock exit at 1/4 final stage. its all about the money and it wouldn't do if some did an unexpected ambush on one of the bug guns
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Il Bomber Destro on February 03, 2018, 11:00:47 PM
I wouldn't read too much into Kerry's win today, they still have huge problems with teams running through the middle. They shipped two goals today and had two men sent off for very cynical challenges when teams were running at them. It's a massive difference between playing with 13 men in Winter football on a boggy pitch and doing it in summer at Croke Park.

It was a good game though, Geaney absolutely destroyed Harrison and Cafferkey was hooked very early on. COC's free taking is becoming an issue for Mayo and it cost them a draw at least this evening. Surely McLoughlin or O'Shea should be fit to hit those close range frees on the right hand side?
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: gallsman on February 03, 2018, 11:41:12 PM
Awful stuff from Tyrone in the second half but some encouragement can be taken for them in Lee Brennan. Very accurate and, somewhat bizarrely for a Tyrone forward, actually appears to want to shoot.

Dubs as impressive as ever. Fenton will be an all time great.

Conal McCann's man-bun is still an abomination.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Avondhu star on February 04, 2018, 12:20:29 AM
14 man Dublin beat Tyrone by 6 points in Omagh.

I would laugh at how people think somehow Dublin wouldn't have it easy if they played in the Ulster championship except it's just not funny anymore. A Dublin team back training 3 weeks.


and 13 man Kerry make Mayo look silly in castlebar - in know its early but Kerry seem to be bringing lads through and I'd say they'll be the biggest threat to Dublin

You're really going out on a limb with that prediction
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: galwayman on February 04, 2018, 09:43:55 AM
14 man Dublin beat Tyrone by 6 points in Omagh.

I would laugh at how people think somehow Dublin wouldn't have it easy if they played in the Ulster championship except it's just not funny anymore. A Dublin team back training 3 weeks.


and 13 man Kerry make Mayo look silly in castlebar - in know its early but Kerry seem to be bringing lads through and I'd say they'll be the biggest threat to Dublin

You're really going out on a limb with that prediction
In a few years time yes Kerry will be their biggest threat and perhaps take over from them as they seem to have more players coming through than Dublin even.
For now though Mayo are still the biggest threat to them.
They seem to match up well against them as they have the athleticism to match the Dubs.
Of their key players Moran, Boyle & Higgins are pushing on but the likes of COC, Keegan, AOS, Durcan etc are all in their twenties so have plenty of seasons yet in them.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Orchard park on February 04, 2018, 11:02:23 AM
I wouldn't read too much into Kerry's win today, they still have huge problems with teams running through the middle. They shipped two goals today and had two men sent off for very cynical challenges when teams were running at them. It's a massive difference between playing with 13 men in Winter football on a boggy pitch and doing it in summer at Croke Park.

It was a good game though, Geaney absolutely destroyed Harrison and Cafferkey was hooked very early on. COC's free taking is becoming an issue for Mayo and it cost them a draw at least this evening. Surely McLoughlin or O'Shea should be fit to hit those close range frees on the right hand side?

Have you seen aidan o'shea  kick  ball often ??????

Stick to trolling other posters about fine Gael history
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: straightred on February 04, 2018, 11:26:36 AM
14 man Dublin beat Tyrone by 6 points in Omagh.

I would laugh at how people think somehow Dublin wouldn't have it easy if they played in the Ulster championship except it's just not funny anymore. A Dublin team back training 3 weeks.


and 13 man Kerry make Mayo look silly in castlebar - in know its early but Kerry seem to be bringing lads through and I'd say they'll be the biggest threat to Dublin

You're really going out on a limb with that prediction
:)  i know - its a bit depressing thinking about it.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: seafoid on February 04, 2018, 04:01:48 PM
Kildare lose by a point. Very hard luck.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: straightred on February 04, 2018, 04:07:55 PM
Kildare lose by a point. Very hard luck.

that's division 1. Monaghan v unlucky to lose by a point last week. Donegal lose last week and again today by a point. There's a traffic jam at the bottom  !
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: seafoid on February 04, 2018, 05:04:27 PM
Tyrone v Kildare will be a humdinger although the 2 have the Dublin match over and are probably better than their nul points might suggest.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on February 04, 2018, 05:18:41 PM
Kildare lose by a point. Very hard luck.

Extreme wastefulness and stupidity at times for Kildare cost us dearly. Dominated possession and were the better team for most of the game but didn't convert some kickable frees in the 1st half and took wrong options on numerous other occasions. Joe McQuillan didn't help either and was worth a couple of scores to Monaghan. These are probably the 2 weakest teams in the division so it is a huge 2 points for them. They brought a decent crowd too.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Main Street on February 04, 2018, 06:29:14 PM
You're a sour loser KS, you should learn to lose with at least a morsel of dignity ;D
The Northern Monaghan Sound commentary team were on cloud nine, loudly cheering the boys home over the last 10 minutes.

The deferred TG4 game Donegal Galway game was interesting. Galway have great pace in their attack, they just head straight for goal in a cavalry charge whilst Donegal  look pedantic in comparison.


Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on February 04, 2018, 07:52:16 PM
Great win for us today especially with Mayo, Kerry and *gulp* Dublin still to come. You'd hope that one more win might be enough to keep us in division 1. We can almost have a free hit at the big 3 but still have the Kildare and Monaghan games to fall back on.

Great batttle between McBrearty and Comer today. Both with 0-3 from play.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Itchy on February 04, 2018, 08:00:09 PM
Kildare lose by a point. Very hard luck.

Extreme wastefulness and stupidity at times for Kildare cost us dearly. Dominated possession and were the better team for most of the game but didn't convert some kickable frees in the 1st half and took wrong options on numerous other occasions. Joe McQuillan didn't help either and was worth a couple of scores to Monaghan. These are probably the 2 weakest teams in the division so it is a huge 2 points for them. They brought a decent crowd too.

You think a cavan man was giving the rub of the green to Monaghan. That's a good one.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: twohands!!! on February 04, 2018, 09:30:32 PM
Great win for us today especially with Mayo, Kerry and *gulp* Dublin still to come. You'd hope that one more win might be enough to keep us in division 1. We can almost have a free hit at the big 3 but still have the Kildare and Monaghan games to fall back on.

Great batttle between McBrearty and Comer today. Both with 0-3 from play.

I doubt that there are any teams that were on 4 points after 2 games that got relegated from Division 1. Odds are good now that Galway will survive in Division 1, which is always the goal for a newly promoted side.

One of Kildare or Tyrone will still be on zero as they play each other next Sunday (unless there's a draw)
Donegal are playing Dublin in Dublin, so I'd say no-one would be too surprised if they are still on zero after next Saturday night.

Kildare will be playing Donegal in Round 4 and that is already looking like it might have the tinge of relegation decider about it - if both sides are still on zero at that stage it could be a fairly competitive affair.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Dinny Breen on February 04, 2018, 10:41:43 PM
Kildare will go down, we are struggling against the more physical aspect of Division 1 and the less time on the ball. Steep learning curve and probably invaluable long term but frustrating to watch.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Donnellys Hollow on February 05, 2018, 12:25:25 AM
What happened to McCormack? The belt he took didn't look anything out of the ordinary he looked in a bad way being helped back to the dressing room. Pity because he was playing well. Same with Cribbin although his black card was madness.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: seafoid on February 05, 2018, 09:09:05 AM
Kildare will go down, we are struggling against the more physical aspect of Division 1 and the less time on the ball. Steep learning curve and probably invaluable long term but frustrating to watch.
Donegal Tyrone and Monaghan are probably in the mix as well.  I wouldn't doom Kildare yet.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Maroon Manc on February 05, 2018, 09:55:57 AM
Another good win for Galway and another game where they didn't concede any goal chances. Comer and Walsh were very good although Walsh did have a very bad wide when in on goal and dropped another one short when he should have kept going or moved in.

Kickouts remain to be a huge problem, think Galway managed to retain possession only 4 times in the 2nd half on their own kickouts whilst giving it away at least 7 or 8 times, it continues to be a huge problem. Donegal dominated around the middle and won the majority of breaking ball too.

Galway on the ball were very good though and kicked some great scores but Varley & Sweeney were passengers, Kelly was slightly better but its hard to see him starting come championship.

Donegal relied too heavily on McBrearty who was superb, they didn't move the ball as quickly as Galway.

I thought Hughes was poor, for the first 50 minutes he was very harsh on Galway; He tried leveling it up in the last 20 giving Galway some very soft frees.



Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: An Fhairche Abu on February 05, 2018, 10:12:47 AM
Another good win for Galway and another game where they didn't concede any goal chances. Comer and Walsh were very good although Walsh did have a very bad wide when in on goal and dropped another one short when he should have kept going or moved in.

Kickouts remain to be a huge problem, think Galway managed to retain possession only 4 times in the 2nd half on their own kickouts whilst giving it away at least 7 or 8 times, it continues to be a huge problem. Donegal dominated around the middle and won the majority of breaking ball too.

Galway on the ball were very good though and kicked some great scores but Varley & Sweeney were passengers, Kelly was slightly better but its hard to see him starting come championship.

Donegal relied too heavily on McBrearty who was superb, they didn't move the ball as quickly as Galway.

I thought Hughes was poor, for the first 50 minutes he was very harsh on Galway; He tried leveling it up in the last 20 giving Galway some very soft frees.

This is a really key point, we're not seeing any improvement in what has become one of the most important facets of the game. As I said after the Tyrone match I wouldn't be in a rush to criticise Lavelle for his kick outs as it is the same problem regardless of who is in goals, it's an overall team issue, the chopping and changing of keepers during Walsh's reign is symptomatic of trying lads out as if one of them will go in between the sticks and just suddenly solve it on their own.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: seafoid on February 05, 2018, 10:23:17 AM
Another good win for Galway and another game where they didn't concede any goal chances. Comer and Walsh were very good although Walsh did have a very bad wide when in on goal and dropped another one short when he should have kept going or moved in.

Kickouts remain to be a huge problem, think Galway managed to retain possession only 4 times in the 2nd half on their own kickouts whilst giving it away at least 7 or 8 times, it continues to be a huge problem. Donegal dominated around the middle and won the majority of breaking ball too.

Galway on the ball were very good though and kicked some great scores but Varley & Sweeney were passengers, Kelly was slightly better but its hard to see him starting come championship.

Donegal relied too heavily on McBrearty who was superb, they didn't move the ball as quickly as Galway.

I thought Hughes was poor, for the first 50 minutes he was very harsh on Galway; He tried leveling it up in the last 20 giving Galway some very soft frees.
Most people considering the injuries and the missing Corofin contingent would have been happy with 2 points at this stage. Goalie is a problem area but the backs are improved and the forwards are predatory.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Maroon Manc on February 05, 2018, 10:29:31 AM
Another good win for Galway and another game where they didn't concede any goal chances. Comer and Walsh were very good although Walsh did have a very bad wide when in on goal and dropped another one short when he should have kept going or moved in.

Kickouts remain to be a huge problem, think Galway managed to retain possession only 4 times in the 2nd half on their own kickouts whilst giving it away at least 7 or 8 times, it continues to be a huge problem. Donegal dominated around the middle and won the majority of breaking ball too.

Galway on the ball were very good though and kicked some great scores but Varley & Sweeney were passengers, Kelly was slightly better but its hard to see him starting come championship.

Donegal relied too heavily on McBrearty who was superb, they didn't move the ball as quickly as Galway.

I thought Hughes was poor, for the first 50 minutes he was very harsh on Galway; He tried leveling it up in the last 20 giving Galway some very soft frees.

This is a really key point, we're not seeing any improvement in what has become one of the most important facets of the game. As I said after the Tyrone match I wouldn't be in a rush to criticise Lavelle for his kick outs as it is the same problem regardless of who is in goals, it's an overall team issue, the chopping and changing of keepers during Walsh's reign is symptomatic of trying lads out as if one of them will go in between the sticks and just suddenly solve it on their own.

Agreed its an overall team issue, most of the time it was kick out long and hope for the best which is clearly not good enough and very frustrating to watch. Power though is a better kicker of the ball and surely will come back into the team when Corofin are done.

On a positive note we managed to win a game with very little possession against Div 1 opposition which wouldn't have happened in recent years.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: omagh_gael on February 05, 2018, 10:45:35 AM
Very impressive start by Galway. Donegal pushed Kerry all the way last week and we saw what Kerry did to Mayo. Next weeks game against Mayo will be a cracker.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Dinny Breen on February 05, 2018, 10:52:00 AM
What happened to McCormack? The belt he took didn't look anything out of the ordinary he looked in a bad way being helped back to the dressing room. Pity because he was playing well. Same with Cribbin although his black card was madness.

I was down that end and it looked innocuous so unless he was just unlucky and got caught by a flailing elbow/arm it's hard to know. But the amount pulling and dragging that was going on off the ball, Dublin Joe seemed more worried about the sun in his eyes than actually doing his job. 
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: rosnarun on February 05, 2018, 11:24:03 AM
14 man Dublin beat Tyrone by 6 points in Omagh.

I would laugh at how people think somehow Dublin wouldn't have it easy if they played in the Ulster championship except it's just not funny anymore. A Dublin team back training 3 weeks.
and 13 man Kerry make Mayo look silly in castlebar - in know its early but Kerry seem to be bringing lads through and I'd say they'll be the biggest threat to Dublin

so far this year  mayo have had 9 players sent off against them to zero mayos players .
is that teams think mayo can be bullied or is mayos discipline just exceptionally good.
Kerry routinely dragged mayo attackers to the ground Saturday  not to mention the assault on Evan Regan . very disappointing and frustrating to watch
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: galwayman on February 05, 2018, 11:26:23 AM
Another good win for Galway and another game where they didn't concede any goal chances. Comer and Walsh were very good although Walsh did have a very bad wide when in on goal and dropped another one short when he should have kept going or moved in.

Kickouts remain to be a huge problem, think Galway managed to retain possession only 4 times in the 2nd half on their own kickouts whilst giving it away at least 7 or 8 times, it continues to be a huge problem. Donegal dominated around the middle and won the majority of breaking ball too.

Galway on the ball were very good though and kicked some great scores but Varley & Sweeney were passengers, Kelly was slightly better but its hard to see him starting come championship.

Donegal relied too heavily on McBrearty who was superb, they didn't move the ball as quickly as Galway.

I thought Hughes was poor, for the first 50 minutes he was very harsh on Galway; He tried leveling it up in the last 20 giving Galway some very soft frees.

This is a really key point, we're not seeing any improvement in what has become one of the most important facets of the game. As I said after the Tyrone match I wouldn't be in a rush to criticise Lavelle for his kick outs as it is the same problem regardless of who is in goals, it's an overall team issue, the chopping and changing of keepers during Walsh's reign is symptomatic of trying lads out as if one of them will go in between the sticks and just suddenly solve it on their own.

Agreed its an overall team issue, most of the time it was kick out long and hope for the best which is clearly not good enough and very frustrating to watch. Power though is a better kicker of the ball and surely will come back into the team when Corofin are done.

On a positive note we managed to win a game with very little possession against Div 1 opposition which wouldn't have happened in recent years.
Agreed, our kickout strategy is a real worry. We spent almost the entire second half defending because we had no possession.
So bearing that in mind it was a really good win.
The fullback line for me is still a huge concern.
Declan Kyne is getting found out in a lot of games & the jury is still out on Sean Andy.
He really needs to improve in possession. He sloppily gave away the ball several times against Tyrone and did it again yesterday on a few occasions needlessly. But Kevin is right to give him his chance in this campaign.
Varley & Sweeney weren't in the game yesterday at all though it was very hard for Varley as he was so isolated a lot of the time.
Come championship Ian Burke, Armie & Michael Daly injury permitting will be ahead of both of them.
I'd like to see Cunningham get a start in one of the upcoming games.
Kevin knows what Sweeney & Varley can do at this stage but needs to see if Cunningham can step up or not.
Coming in off the bench for the last 15-20 minutes of a game where you are hanging onto a lead and retreating en masse isn't going to tell you a lot about a player like him.
Give him a start and see if he makes an impact or not.
Also I think Walsh and Comer are probably playing too deep for us a lot of the time.
I'd like to see us keeping those guys higher up the pitch where they can do damage.
Let others like Eamonn Brannigan do the chasing back.
I often feel like Shane gets the ball and has that explosive initial burst of pace where he beats his man - and then finds himself still in our half or around midfield.
If he was higher up the pitch when doing this he would be far more dangerous.

Now they are the negatives out of the way :-)
There were lots of positives as well but if we can improve on some of the issues such as kickouts etc we will be in better shape come championship.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Hound on February 05, 2018, 11:54:03 AM
Tyrone probably created more scoring chances that Dublin during the game. But that was a horrendous run of shooting in the third quarter (and longer). With Brennan and McAlliskey both looking really sharp in the first half, it was hard to understand why they didnt try to give them more ball in the 2nd. Apart from the shooting, Tyrone's gameplan worked really well and it really should have been a very tight game going into the last 10 minutes.

Very interesting move by Gavin to play Kilkenny at full forward for chunks of the game. I'd like to see more of that

I thought Kerry were very impressive, especially given so many new faces in the team. I was impressed with their defenders as well as their forwards. Showed some inexperience for sure, but generally seemed tough and pacy. Keeper looked a bit dodge, a bit of work to do to get up to the required standard.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: tonto1888 on February 05, 2018, 12:00:09 PM
14 man Dublin beat Tyrone by 6 points in Omagh.

I would laugh at how people think somehow Dublin wouldn't have it easy if they played in the Ulster championship except it's just not funny anymore. A Dublin team back training 3 weeks.
and 13 man Kerry make Mayo look silly in castlebar - in know its early but Kerry seem to be bringing lads through and I'd say they'll be the biggest threat to Dublin

so far this year  mayo have had 9 players sent off against them to zero mayos players .
is that teams think mayo can be bullied or is mayos discipline just exceptionally good.
Kerry routinely dragged mayo attackers to the ground Saturday  not to mention the assault on Evan Regan . very disappointing and frustrating to watch

was he the lad who got shouldered as he was still on the ground?
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: dublin7 on February 05, 2018, 01:35:02 PM
14 man Dublin beat Tyrone by 6 points in Omagh.

I would laugh at how people think somehow Dublin wouldn't have it easy if they played in the Ulster championship except it's just not funny anymore. A Dublin team back training 3 weeks.
and 13 man Kerry make Mayo look silly in castlebar - in know its early but Kerry seem to be bringing lads through and I'd say they'll be the biggest threat to Dublin

so far this year  mayo have had 9 players sent off against them to zero mayos players .
is that teams think mayo can be bullied or is mayos discipline just exceptionally good.
Kerry routinely dragged mayo attackers to the ground Saturday  not to mention the assault on Evan Regan . very disappointing and frustrating to watch

was he the lad who got shouldered as he was still on the ground?

Mayo no 9 should have got a black card for running in on the kerry lad after he missed the penalty. Totally unnecessary and started a mini flare up. 
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: WT4E on February 05, 2018, 01:35:56 PM
Tyrone probably created more scoring chances that Dublin during the game. But that was a horrendous run of shooting in the third quarter (and longer). With Brennan and McAlliskey both looking really sharp in the first half, it was hard to understand why they didnt try to give them more ball in the 2nd. Apart from the shooting, Tyrone's gameplan worked really well and it really should have been a very tight game going into the last 10 minutes.

Very interesting move by Gavin to play Kilkenny at full forward for chunks of the game. I'd like to see more of that

Good analysis.

Tyrone shooting was awful with wrong players ending up trying pot shots. I think to be fair the elements meant it was much harder to get long early ball into the forwards (into a stiff breeze) and Dublin tightened up on this in the 2nd half also.

I think the Kilkenny move was just reactive thinking from Gavin. He probably saw that Kilkenny was on Aidan McCrory who is very limited in certain aspects of his game and he decided to exploit that. Gavin unlike our manger seems to react very quickly to things like that where Harte hasn't been reacting quick enough for years now.

Brennan a real positive - how he has sat on the bench for two years is unbelievable.

I firmly believe more than ever that Harte is holding Tyrone back rather than progressing them at the moment.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: the goal was on on February 05, 2018, 02:01:48 PM
Tyrone been targeting this game game since they resumed training in late November. Dublin back 3 weeks. Tyrone held them to draw last year in feb. If game had of been in croker been a 10 point game
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Captain Obvious on February 05, 2018, 02:05:35 PM
Tyrone been targeting this game game since they resumed training in late November. Dublin back 3 weeks. Tyrone held them to draw last year in feb. If game had of been in croker been a 10 point game
Having watched Tyrone in the last two games I don't think they are putting much focus into the league this year at all and are already looking ahead to Ulster championship and probably the super 8.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: the goal was on on February 05, 2018, 02:13:16 PM
Yeah that’s why they were back in November and all big players available are playing. Perhaps your right but not hartes approach. If you see Colm cav next week I think that will tell the tale
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Fuzzman on February 05, 2018, 02:45:21 PM
I heard someone else say that as well that they're scheduling their training to peak much later in the year but I thought in the first half they were well up for it but second half again no leaders or nobody to take the game by the scruff of the neck.

Dublin looked like they had the spare man for most of the 2nd half and I was disgusted how many times they just walked through and shot without a red hand being laid on them.

I've not saw the match on TV yet but what was the horrible mixup with the goal.

I think if we can field Lee Brennan and McAliskey over the summer we could make the semis again but i don't think we can go beyond that. Was Mattie Donnelly injured or just invisible?
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Maroon Manc on February 05, 2018, 03:26:44 PM
Another good win for Galway and another game where they didn't concede any goal chances. Comer and Walsh were very good although Walsh did have a very bad wide when in on goal and dropped another one short when he should have kept going or moved in.

Kickouts remain to be a huge problem, think Galway managed to retain possession only 4 times in the 2nd half on their own kickouts whilst giving it away at least 7 or 8 times, it continues to be a huge problem. Donegal dominated around the middle and won the majority of breaking ball too.

Galway on the ball were very good though and kicked some great scores but Varley & Sweeney were passengers, Kelly was slightly better but its hard to see him starting come championship.

Donegal relied too heavily on McBrearty who was superb, they didn't move the ball as quickly as Galway.

I thought Hughes was poor, for the first 50 minutes he was very harsh on Galway; He tried leveling it up in the last 20 giving Galway some very soft frees.

This is a really key point, we're not seeing any improvement in what has become one of the most important facets of the game. As I said after the Tyrone match I wouldn't be in a rush to criticise Lavelle for his kick outs as it is the same problem regardless of who is in goals, it's an overall team issue, the chopping and changing of keepers during Walsh's reign is symptomatic of trying lads out as if one of them will go in between the sticks and just suddenly solve it on their own.

Agreed its an overall team issue, most of the time it was kick out long and hope for the best which is clearly not good enough and very frustrating to watch. Power though is a better kicker of the ball and surely will come back into the team when Corofin are done.

On a positive note we managed to win a game with very little possession against Div 1 opposition which wouldn't have happened in recent years.
Agreed, our kickout strategy is a real worry. We spent almost the entire second half defending because we had no possession.
So bearing that in mind it was a really good win.
The fullback line for me is still a huge concern.
Declan Kyne is getting found out in a lot of games & the jury is still out on Sean Andy.
He really needs to improve in possession. He sloppily gave away the ball several times against Tyrone and did it again yesterday on a few occasions needlessly. But Kevin is right to give him his chance in this campaign.
Varley & Sweeney weren't in the game yesterday at all though it was very hard for Varley as he was so isolated a lot of the time.
Come championship Ian Burke, Armie & Michael Daly injury permitting will be ahead of both of them.
I'd like to see Cunningham get a start in one of the upcoming games.
Kevin knows what Sweeney & Varley can do at this stage but needs to see if Cunningham can step up or not.
Coming in off the bench for the last 15-20 minutes of a game where you are hanging onto a lead and retreating en masse isn't going to tell you a lot about a player like him.
Give him a start and see if he makes an impact or not.
Also I think Walsh and Comer are probably playing too deep for us a lot of the time.
I'd like to see us keeping those guys higher up the pitch where they can do damage.
Let others like Eamonn Brannigan do the chasing back.
I often feel like Shane gets the ball and has that explosive initial burst of pace where he beats his man - and then finds himself still in our half or around midfield.
If he was higher up the pitch when doing this he would be far more dangerous.

Now they are the negatives out of the way :-)
There were lots of positives as well but if we can improve on some of the issues such as kickouts etc we will be in better shape come championship.

Comer certainly plays too deep but can see why, he's one of our best players at making a turnover. Its hard to know what the right balance is in the forwards but at least we have plenty of options in that department with Daly, Burke & Cummins to return too but you can't help but feel he'll play Heaney in the forwards come championship time which I'm not a fan off.  Agree on Cunningham, would like to see him start next week ahead but not convinced he will.



Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: galwayman on February 05, 2018, 03:31:45 PM
Another good win for Galway and another game where they didn't concede any goal chances. Comer and Walsh were very good although Walsh did have a very bad wide when in on goal and dropped another one short when he should have kept going or moved in.

Kickouts remain to be a huge problem, think Galway managed to retain possession only 4 times in the 2nd half on their own kickouts whilst giving it away at least 7 or 8 times, it continues to be a huge problem. Donegal dominated around the middle and won the majority of breaking ball too.

Galway on the ball were very good though and kicked some great scores but Varley & Sweeney were passengers, Kelly was slightly better but its hard to see him starting come championship.

Donegal relied too heavily on McBrearty who was superb, they didn't move the ball as quickly as Galway.

I thought Hughes was poor, for the first 50 minutes he was very harsh on Galway; He tried leveling it up in the last 20 giving Galway some very soft frees.

This is a really key point, we're not seeing any improvement in what has become one of the most important facets of the game. As I said after the Tyrone match I wouldn't be in a rush to criticise Lavelle for his kick outs as it is the same problem regardless of who is in goals, it's an overall team issue, the chopping and changing of keepers during Walsh's reign is symptomatic of trying lads out as if one of them will go in between the sticks and just suddenly solve it on their own.

Agreed its an overall team issue, most of the time it was kick out long and hope for the best which is clearly not good enough and very frustrating to watch. Power though is a better kicker of the ball and surely will come back into the team when Corofin are done.

On a positive note we managed to win a game with very little possession against Div 1 opposition which wouldn't have happened in recent years.
Agreed, our kickout strategy is a real worry. We spent almost the entire second half defending because we had no possession.
So bearing that in mind it was a really good win.
The fullback line for me is still a huge concern.
Declan Kyne is getting found out in a lot of games & the jury is still out on Sean Andy.
He really needs to improve in possession. He sloppily gave away the ball several times against Tyrone and did it again yesterday on a few occasions needlessly. But Kevin is right to give him his chance in this campaign.
Varley & Sweeney weren't in the game yesterday at all though it was very hard for Varley as he was so isolated a lot of the time.
Come championship Ian Burke, Armie & Michael Daly injury permitting will be ahead of both of them.
I'd like to see Cunningham get a start in one of the upcoming games.
Kevin knows what Sweeney & Varley can do at this stage but needs to see if Cunningham can step up or not.
Coming in off the bench for the last 15-20 minutes of a game where you are hanging onto a lead and retreating en masse isn't going to tell you a lot about a player like him.
Give him a start and see if he makes an impact or not.
Also I think Walsh and Comer are probably playing too deep for us a lot of the time.
I'd like to see us keeping those guys higher up the pitch where they can do damage.
Let others like Eamonn Brannigan do the chasing back.
I often feel like Shane gets the ball and has that explosive initial burst of pace where he beats his man - and then finds himself still in our half or around midfield.
If he was higher up the pitch when doing this he would be far more dangerous.

Now they are the negatives out of the way :-)
There were lots of positives as well but if we can improve on some of the issues such as kickouts etc we will be in better shape come championship.

Comer certainly plays too deep but can see why, he's one of our best players at making a turnover. Its hard to know what the right balance is in the forwards but at least we have plenty of options in that department with Daly, Burke & Cummins to return too but you can't help but feel he'll play Heaney in the forwards come championship time which I'm not a fan off.  Agree on Cunningham, would like to see him start next week ahead but not convinced he will.
No he will probably start him in the FBD final instead I would say.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: rosnarun on February 05, 2018, 04:05:16 PM
14 man Dublin beat Tyrone by 6 points in Omagh.

I would laugh at how people think somehow Dublin wouldn't have it easy if they played in the Ulster championship except it's just not funny anymore. A Dublin team back training 3 weeks.
and 13 man Kerry make Mayo look silly in castlebar - in know its early but Kerry seem to be bringing lads through and I'd say they'll be the biggest threat to Dublin

so far this year  mayo have had 9 players sent off against them to zero mayos players .
is that teams think mayo can be bullied or is mayos discipline just exceptionally good.
Kerry routinely dragged mayo attackers to the ground Saturday  not to mention the assault on Evan Regan . very disappointing and frustrating to watch

was he the lad who got shouldered as he was still on the ground?

Mayo no 9 should have got a black card for running in on the kerry lad after he missed the penalty. Totally unnecessary and started a mini flare up. 

I could argue black cards all day long Kerry should Have got about 3 in the 1st half it was an obvious policy to pull down players who beat their man . cowardly refs have totally undermined the black card by not giving them or giving them at random.
if gibbon ran in as the 3rd man he should have got red as per the rules not black and I have no issue with that if it was consistently enforced .
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: seafoid on February 05, 2018, 04:08:48 PM
The odds have changed a good bit. Just goes to show how much the bookies know.

Kildare were 33/1 to win outright before a ball was kicked but are out to 100/1 now.
Galway went from 25/1 to 16/1.

The bottom 4 are rated as follows by oddschecker :

 
Monaghan   16      
Tyrone   33      
Donegal   50      
Kildare   100      

Monaghan  look overrated
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: tonto1888 on February 05, 2018, 04:50:07 PM
14 man Dublin beat Tyrone by 6 points in Omagh.

I would laugh at how people think somehow Dublin wouldn't have it easy if they played in the Ulster championship except it's just not funny anymore. A Dublin team back training 3 weeks.
and 13 man Kerry make Mayo look silly in castlebar - in know its early but Kerry seem to be bringing lads through and I'd say they'll be the biggest threat to Dublin

so far this year  mayo have had 9 players sent off against them to zero mayos players .
is that teams think mayo can be bullied or is mayos discipline just exceptionally good.
Kerry routinely dragged mayo attackers to the ground Saturday  not to mention the assault on Evan Regan . very disappointing and frustrating to watch

was he the lad who got shouldered as he was still on the ground?

Mayo no 9 should have got a black card for running in on the kerry lad after he missed the penalty. Totally unnecessary and started a mini flare up.

That has nothing to do with the incident Im talking about
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Schkite on February 05, 2018, 05:09:02 PM
The odds have changed a good bit. Just goes to show how much the bookies know.

Kildare were 33/1 to win outright before a ball was kicked but are out to 100/1 now.
Galway went from 25/1 to 16/1.

The bottom 4 are rated as follows by oddschecker :

 
Monaghan   16      
Tyrone   33      
Donegal   50      
Kildare   100      

Monaghan  look overrated

Well we're the only one of those 4 teams to have points on the board yet, and that came in an away game. Ffs can we not have even a couple of days of feeling positive before the doom merchants consign us to relegation again?!

16/1 odds is hardly odds that suggest we have a good chance of winning the league, so I don't get the overrated thing.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Main Street on February 05, 2018, 08:51:10 PM
The odds have changed a good bit. Just goes to show how much the bookies know.

Kildare were 33/1 to win outright before a ball was kicked but are out to 100/1 now.
Galway went from 25/1 to 16/1.

The bottom 4 are rated as follows by oddschecker :

 
Monaghan   16      
Tyrone   33      
Donegal   50      
Kildare   100      

Monaghan  look overrated

Well we're the only one of those 4 teams to have points on the board yet, and that came in an away game. Ffs can we not have even a couple of days of feeling positive before the doom merchants consign us to relegation again?!

16/1 odds is hardly odds that suggest we have a good chance of winning the league, so I don't get the overrated thing.

Seafold, have another look at the listed odds, Galway are 15/2 to lift the league title, in from 16/1.   

re Monaghan @16/1 in from 25/1, wouldn't it be a tad cruel on Kildare if beating them on their home turf had no positive effect on your form and ranking? :)
 
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: yellowcard on February 06, 2018, 11:01:28 AM
Former Footballer of the Year Lee Keegan has hit out at the tackle that saw his Mayo team-mate Evan Regan suffer facial injuries that will likely require surgery.

The incident occurred during Mayo's NFL Division 1 defeat to Kerry in Castlebar on Saturday night.

Regan is likely to miss the rest of the league campaign with the injury and Westport man Keegan described the tackle as "a very bad challenge" when discussing some of the fringe players who have impressed him in Mayo's league campaign to date.

"Evan Regan got a bad injury at the weekend so that could curtail his league campaign again. I thought he was doing ok. I thought he had a good game against Monaghan. Got a bad tackle at the weekend, and he got a bad outcome there; a broken jaw. He's going to have to try and look after that for a couple of months anyway.

"We're still looking at a couple of guys there, a lot of young guys at the moment so I think Stephen's going to change it up hopefully again and get a look at these guys and see where they are."

A Mayo spokesperson last night described Regan's injury as a "facial bone fracture and concussion injury" while Keegan revealed he would likely require surgery.

"A very bad challenge to be honest. I was literally in line with it. It was bad now I have to say. I was chatting to him yesterday and he was in a bad way still. I know he got a bit of bad news, he has to get surgery now I think.


Do we know what happened in this incident that has left Regan requiring surgery for a broken jaw? Although I didn't see the game, I understand that it was broadcast on Eir Sport, was there an obvious challenge that brought about the end of Regan's League campaign.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: seafoid on February 06, 2018, 11:20:13 AM
The odds have changed a good bit. Just goes to show how much the bookies know.

Kildare were 33/1 to win outright before a ball was kicked but are out to 100/1 now.
Galway went from 25/1 to 16/1.

The bottom 4 are rated as follows by oddschecker :

 
Monaghan   16      
Tyrone   33      
Donegal   50      
Kildare   100      

Monaghan  look overrated

Well we're the only one of those 4 teams to have points on the board yet, and that came in an away game. Ffs can we not have even a couple of days of feeling positive before the doom merchants consign us to relegation again?!

16/1 odds is hardly odds that suggest we have a good chance of winning the league, so I don't get the overrated thing.

Seafold, have another look at the listed odds, Galway are 15/2 to lift the league title, in from 16/1.   

re Monaghan @16/1 in from 25/1, wouldn't it be a tad cruel on Kildare if beating them on their home turf had no positive effect on your form and ranking? :)
They were 16/1 just now. Same as Monaghan

https://www.oddschecker.com/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/nfl-division-1/winner

I think odds for February football are very unreliable.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Main Street on February 06, 2018, 12:45:21 PM
The odds have changed a good bit. Just goes to show how much the bookies know.

Kildare were 33/1 to win outright before a ball was kicked but are out to 100/1 now.
Galway went from 25/1 to 16/1.

The bottom 4 are rated as follows by oddschecker :

 
Monaghan   16      
Tyrone   33      
Donegal   50      
Kildare   100      

Monaghan  look overrated

Well we're the only one of those 4 teams to have points on the board yet, and that came in an away game. Ffs can we not have even a couple of days of feeling positive before the doom merchants consign us to relegation again?!

16/1 odds is hardly odds that suggest we have a good chance of winning the league, so I don't get the overrated thing.

Seafold, have another look at the listed odds, Galway are 15/2 to lift the league title, in from 16/1.   

re Monaghan @16/1 in from 25/1, wouldn't it be a tad cruel on Kildare if beating them on their home turf had no positive effect on your form and ranking? :)
They were 16/1 just now. Same as Monaghan

https://www.oddschecker.com/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/nfl-division-1/winner

I think odds for February football are very unreliable.
Did you not think that maybe there was something up  there?  the discrepancy between 16/1 and 15/2  in the quoted odds for Galway didn't ring a bell?
The BET365 16/1 odds on Galway that you cherry picked are not applicable. 0n the Bet365 (http://"https://www.bet365.com/?&cb=1032551420#/AC/B75/C20560772/D1/E35528637/F2/P^1/Q^35528637/I") website itself, Galway are 9/1.



Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: seafoid on February 06, 2018, 09:26:44 PM
Monaghan are out to 18/1
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Aaron Boone on February 06, 2018, 09:39:05 PM
Monaghan are out to 18/1
Sure it’s all by-the-by.

Dublin beat AN Other in the final. The best are back to their best.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Avondhu star on February 06, 2018, 10:00:35 PM
Former Footballer of the Year Lee Keegan has hit out at the tackle that saw his Mayo team-mate Evan Regan suffer facial injuries that will likely require surgery.

The incident occurred during Mayo's NFL Division 1 defeat to Kerry in Castlebar on Saturday night.

Regan is likely to miss the rest of the league campaign with the injury and Westport man Keegan described the tackle as "a very bad challenge" when discussing some of the fringe players who have impressed him in Mayo's league campaign to date.

"Evan Regan got a bad injury at the weekend so that could curtail his league campaign again. I thought he was doing ok. I thought he had a good game against Monaghan. Got a bad tackle at the weekend, and he got a bad outcome there; a broken jaw. He's going to have to try and look after that for a couple of months anyway.

"We're still looking at a couple of guys there, a lot of young guys at the moment so I think Stephen's going to change it up hopefully again and get a look at these guys and see where they are."

A Mayo spokesperson last night described Regan's injury as a "facial bone fracture and concussion injury" while Keegan revealed he would likely require surgery.

"A very bad challenge to be honest. I was literally in line with it. It was bad now I have to say. I was chatting to him yesterday and he was in a bad way still. I know he got a bit of bad news, he has to get surgery now I think.


Do we know what happened in this incident that has left Regan requiring surgery for a broken jaw? Although I didn't see the game, I understand that it was broadcast on Eir Sport, was there an obvious challenge that brought about the end of Regan's League campaign.
Surely you are not suggesting that the Princes of Gaelic football would engage in thuggery.
Ignore Donaghey antics last August when he realised Mayo had them beaten, Darren  O Se antics against Cork or going back Deenihans tricks against Jimmy Barry Murphy
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: tonto1888 on February 06, 2018, 10:59:54 PM
Former Footballer of the Year Lee Keegan has hit out at the tackle that saw his Mayo team-mate Evan Regan suffer facial injuries that will likely require surgery.

The incident occurred during Mayo's NFL Division 1 defeat to Kerry in Castlebar on Saturday night.

Regan is likely to miss the rest of the league campaign with the injury and Westport man Keegan described the tackle as "a very bad challenge" when discussing some of the fringe players who have impressed him in Mayo's league campaign to date.

"Evan Regan got a bad injury at the weekend so that could curtail his league campaign again. I thought he was doing ok. I thought he had a good game against Monaghan. Got a bad tackle at the weekend, and he got a bad outcome there; a broken jaw. He's going to have to try and look after that for a couple of months anyway.

"We're still looking at a couple of guys there, a lot of young guys at the moment so I think Stephen's going to change it up hopefully again and get a look at these guys and see where they are."

A Mayo spokesperson last night described Regan's injury as a "facial bone fracture and concussion injury" while Keegan revealed he would likely require surgery.

"A very bad challenge to be honest. I was literally in line with it. It was bad now I have to say. I was chatting to him yesterday and he was in a bad way still. I know he got a bit of bad news, he has to get surgery now I think.


Do we know what happened in this incident that has left Regan requiring surgery for a broken jaw? Although I didn't see the game, I understand that it was broadcast on Eir Sport, was there an obvious challenge that brought about the end of Regan's League campaign.

There was an incident were a Mayo lad had been knocked to the ground. As he was getting to his knees a Kerry lad hit him with the shoulder. A cheap shot. I don’t know if that’s the one though
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: MayoBuck on February 07, 2018, 12:48:11 AM
Former Footballer of the Year Lee Keegan has hit out at the tackle that saw his Mayo team-mate Evan Regan suffer facial injuries that will likely require surgery.

The incident occurred during Mayo's NFL Division 1 defeat to Kerry in Castlebar on Saturday night.

Regan is likely to miss the rest of the league campaign with the injury and Westport man Keegan described the tackle as "a very bad challenge" when discussing some of the fringe players who have impressed him in Mayo's league campaign to date.

"Evan Regan got a bad injury at the weekend so that could curtail his league campaign again. I thought he was doing ok. I thought he had a good game against Monaghan. Got a bad tackle at the weekend, and he got a bad outcome there; a broken jaw. He's going to have to try and look after that for a couple of months anyway.

"We're still looking at a couple of guys there, a lot of young guys at the moment so I think Stephen's going to change it up hopefully again and get a look at these guys and see where they are."

A Mayo spokesperson last night described Regan's injury as a "facial bone fracture and concussion injury" while Keegan revealed he would likely require surgery.

"A very bad challenge to be honest. I was literally in line with it. It was bad now I have to say. I was chatting to him yesterday and he was in a bad way still. I know he got a bit of bad news, he has to get surgery now I think.


Do we know what happened in this incident that has left Regan requiring surgery for a broken jaw? Although I didn't see the game, I understand that it was broadcast on Eir Sport, was there an obvious challenge that brought about the end of Regan's League campaign.

There was an incident were a Mayo lad had been knocked to the ground. As he was getting to his knees a Kerry lad hit him with the shoulder. A cheap shot. I don’t know if that’s the one though

No, that was the Kerry no 19 on Cillian O'Connor.

Regan was caught by a swinging arm while running towards goal.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: tonto1888 on February 07, 2018, 09:15:24 AM
Former Footballer of the Year Lee Keegan has hit out at the tackle that saw his Mayo team-mate Evan Regan suffer facial injuries that will likely require surgery.

The incident occurred during Mayo's NFL Division 1 defeat to Kerry in Castlebar on Saturday night.

Regan is likely to miss the rest of the league campaign with the injury and Westport man Keegan described the tackle as "a very bad challenge" when discussing some of the fringe players who have impressed him in Mayo's league campaign to date.

"Evan Regan got a bad injury at the weekend so that could curtail his league campaign again. I thought he was doing ok. I thought he had a good game against Monaghan. Got a bad tackle at the weekend, and he got a bad outcome there; a broken jaw. He's going to have to try and look after that for a couple of months anyway.

"We're still looking at a couple of guys there, a lot of young guys at the moment so I think Stephen's going to change it up hopefully again and get a look at these guys and see where they are."

A Mayo spokesperson last night described Regan's injury as a "facial bone fracture and concussion injury" while Keegan revealed he would likely require surgery.

"A very bad challenge to be honest. I was literally in line with it. It was bad now I have to say. I was chatting to him yesterday and he was in a bad way still. I know he got a bit of bad news, he has to get surgery now I think.


Do we know what happened in this incident that has left Regan requiring surgery for a broken jaw? Although I didn't see the game, I understand that it was broadcast on Eir Sport, was there an obvious challenge that brought about the end of Regan's League campaign.

There was an incident were a Mayo lad had been knocked to the ground. As he was getting to his knees a Kerry lad hit him with the shoulder. A cheap shot. I don’t know if that’s the one though

No, that was the Kerry no 19 on Cillian O'Connor.

Regan was caught by a swinging arm while running towards goal.

That one was bad too but I didn't realise it had caused an injury to that extent
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Main Street on February 08, 2018, 04:11:44 PM
Monaghan are out to 18/1
Seafold, the evidence so far indicates that it's best for you not to look at betting websites and try to infer a meaning, it's not your forte.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Hound on February 08, 2018, 04:34:59 PM
Monaghan are out to 18/1
Seafold, the evidence so far indicates that it's best for you not to look at betting websites and try to infer a meaning, it's not your forte.
Ah, it's a bit of light relief to read his analysis!
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Lar Naparka on February 08, 2018, 04:47:22 PM
Monaghan are out to 18/1
Seafold, the evidence so far indicates that it's best for you not to look at betting websites and try to infer a meaning, it's not your forte.
Ah, it's a bit of light relief to read his analysis!
Ah, well, he'd give Syferus a run for his money any day.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Main Street on February 09, 2018, 02:08:36 AM
Monaghan have reserved Inniskeen's Gratton Park for the visit of the Kerrymen, who are  apparently now well versed in the dark arts, having just put Mayo to the elbow (or was it many elbows?).  While Mayo men are still wailing and crying foul, possibly Kerry's dander is up and they think they can go toe to toe with Monaghan men in the dark arts stakes.

Ironic that the subject of Kavanagh's deep yearning for the one whose "dark hair would weave a snare
that I may one day rue" turned out to be a Kerrywoman.  "A creature made of clay" no less. It's time to put Kavanagh's lingering and troubled soul to rest in true eternal peace at his Inniskeen grave.





Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Main Street on February 10, 2018, 02:55:46 AM
The Monaghan panel has been announced, the first 15 named are but a guideline to the starting line up.  Ryan Wylie is back in the panel after his suspension for a mysterious red card v Mayo, his supposed victim A O'Shea was also clearly mystified as to what Ryan did to earn that card.
Conor McManus would probably be expected to play some part in the proceedings, maybe even a crucial part.
I think this team can beat Kerry who afterwards will probably just be thankful for keeping the scoreboard respectable and for the  competitive experience at this level for their team of (tired) schoolboys drafted in at the last minute.


Rory Beggan;
Kieran Duffy, Conor Boyle, Barry Kerr;
Neil McAdam, Paraic McGuirk, Karl O'Connell;
 Darren Hughes, Niall Kearns;
Dessie Ward, Dermot Malone, Fintan Kelly;
Conor McCarthy, Jack McCarron, David Garland

Subs: Shane Garland, Ryan Wylie, Colin Walshe, Dessie Mone, Ryan McAnespie, Thomas Kerr, Owen Duffy, Paudie McKenna, Darren Freeman, Drew Wylie, Conor McManus
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Schkite on February 10, 2018, 06:53:44 AM
Strong and experienced bench we have there, but I'd expect 2-3 changes before throw in. McGuirk's place especially is surely under threat - considering he wasn't great last week and was pulled early, and we have the Wylies, Walshe and Dessie on the bench. Can't afford to be making any early mistakes at the back against Kerry.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Rossfan on February 10, 2018, 08:14:39 PM
Donegal giving Dublin a right game of it in the 3rd Quarter!!
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: inthrough on February 10, 2018, 08:15:58 PM
Small lucky to get away with a yellow for that.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: sligoman on February 10, 2018, 08:16:31 PM
That hit from Small from McHugh was as bad as the Shanahan one last week.

The GAA need to be coming down hard with three or 4 games bans for those type of thuggish hits.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: MayoBuck on February 10, 2018, 08:22:19 PM
Paddy McBrearty is sick.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Blowitupref on February 10, 2018, 08:29:53 PM
Paddy McBrearty is sick.
Has really come to life 2nd half when not in the game 1st half.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: MayoBuck on February 10, 2018, 08:41:36 PM
Paddy McBrearty is sick.
Has really come to life 2nd half when not in the game 1st half.
Didn't see the first half.

Seems hard on Donegal to have played well in all 3 games so far but still be on zero points.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: twohands!!! on February 10, 2018, 08:43:05 PM
Both sides playing silly buggers with numbers.

Michael Murphy came on as number 27
Paddy Small came on as number 15 Bernard Brogan was listed as 21 in the program
Ciaran Reddin came on as number 21 Paul Flynn was listed as 21 in the program
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Captain Obvious on February 10, 2018, 08:44:08 PM
Michael Murphy was very poor when brought on well off the pace of the game.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Main Street on February 10, 2018, 08:45:24 PM
That was a very entertaining game. That Donegal goalie bottled it when he pushed the high ball over for a point and surrendered the game to Dublin. I suppose Donegal will also rue the tissue of misses in the last quarter, from players who were in good positions to score.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: twohands!!! on February 10, 2018, 08:45:56 PM
Michael Murphy was very poor when brought on well off the pace of the game.

Looked miles off match fitness.

Madness taking McBrearty off the frees the form he was in.

Donegal's attempt to pull a fast one failed miserably.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: inthrough on February 10, 2018, 08:46:04 PM
The decision to put Murphy on when Donegal were on top cost Donegal the game.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Jell 0 Biafra on February 10, 2018, 08:46:47 PM
Paddy McBrearty is sick.
Has really come to life 2nd half when not in the game 1st half.
Didn't see the first half.

Seems hard on Donegal to have played well in all 3 games so far but still be on zero points.

Tough opening schedule, with Kerry and Dublin in their first three games. They look too good to go down though. 
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: straightred on February 10, 2018, 09:20:54 PM
The decision to put Murphy on when Donegal were on top cost Donegal the game.

And to give him a free straight away which he duly missed. A few mins later Dublin returned the favour giving Rock a free with his first touch and he missed too. Hard to understand the logic there.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Syferus on February 10, 2018, 09:21:57 PM
Paddy McBrearty is sick.
Has really come to life 2nd half when not in the game 1st half.
Didn't see the first half.

Seems hard on Donegal to have played well in all 3 games so far but still be on zero points.

Tough opening schedule, with Kerry and Dublin in their first three games. They look too good to go down though.


Hard to see them staying up after three losses on the trot. Kildare are near certs and all Tyrone need to do is grab any points before they meet Donegal and they’re in the driver’s seat.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: inthrough on February 10, 2018, 09:25:21 PM
Michael Murphy was very poor when brought on well off the pace of the game.

Looked miles off match fitness.

Madness taking McBrearty off the frees the form he was in.

Donegal's attempt to pull a fast one failed miserably.

How is changing a free taker an "attempt to pull a fast one"?
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: seafoid on February 10, 2018, 09:38:51 PM
Paddy McBrearty is sick.
Has really come to life 2nd half when not in the game 1st half.
Didn't see the first half.

Seems hard on Donegal to have played well in all 3 games so far but still be on zero points.

Tough opening schedule, with Kerry and Dublin in their first three games. They look too good to go down though.


Hard to see them staying up after three losses on the trot. Kildare are near certs and all Tyrone need to do is grab any points before they meet Donegal and they’re in the driver’s seat.
Donegal should beat Kildare and Monaghan and get at least 2 points from the remaining 2 matches.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Farrandeelin on February 10, 2018, 09:43:38 PM
The decision to put Murphy on when Donegal were on top cost Donegal the game.

And to give him a free straight away which he duly missed. A few mins later Dublin returned the favour giving Rock a free with his first touch and he missed too. Hard to understand the logic there.

Like Cillian O'Connor last week.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: slippery dodger on February 10, 2018, 09:47:36 PM
Donegal v Dublin Highlights
https://streamable.com/2hcyp
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Schkite on February 10, 2018, 11:29:17 PM
Paddy McBrearty is sick.
Has really come to life 2nd half when not in the game 1st half.
Didn't see the first half.

Seems hard on Donegal to have played well in all 3 games so far but still be on zero points.

Tough opening schedule, with Kerry and Dublin in their first three games. They look too good to go down though.


Hard to see them staying up after three losses on the trot. Kildare are near certs and all Tyrone need to do is grab any points before they meet Donegal and they’re in the driver’s seat.
Donegal should beat Kildare and Monaghan and get at least 2 points from the remaining 2 matches.

I don't see why it should be seen as a given that Donegal will beat Monaghan, seeing as we generally do fairly well against Donegal in the league and we're at home.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: inthrough on February 10, 2018, 11:49:54 PM
Paddy McBrearty is sick.
Has really come to life 2nd half when not in the game 1st half.
Didn't see the first half.

Seems hard on Donegal to have played well in all 3 games so far but still be on zero points.

Tough opening schedule, with Kerry and Dublin in their first three games. They look too good to go down though.


Hard to see them staying up after three losses on the trot. Kildare are near certs and all Tyrone need to do is grab any points before they meet Donegal and they’re in the driver’s seat.
Donegal should beat Kildare and Monaghan and get at least 2 points from the remaining 2 matches.

I don't see why it should be seen as a given that Donegal will beat Monaghan, seeing as we generally do fairly well against Donegal in the league and we're at home.
There are no givens but Donegal have 4 games left against Mayo, Tyrone, Monaghan & Kildare none of whom are tearing up trees. Of that group I would give Donegal a good chance of winning three, all the ingredients are there & if we get Murph back to decent form we should be in with a good shout.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Main Street on February 11, 2018, 12:56:13 AM
Paddy McBrearty is sick.
Has really come to life 2nd half when not in the game 1st half.
Didn't see the first half.

Seems hard on Donegal to have played well in all 3 games so far but still be on zero points.

Tough opening schedule, with Kerry and Dublin in their first three games. They look too good to go down though.


Hard to see them staying up after three losses on the trot. Kildare are near certs and all Tyrone need to do is grab any points before they meet Donegal and they’re in the driver’s seat.
Donegal should beat Kildare and Monaghan and get at least 2 points from the remaining 2 matches.

I don't see why it should be seen as a given that Donegal will beat Monaghan, seeing as we generally do fairly well against Donegal in the league and we're at home.
Don't mind Seafold, he's punching above his weight level when it comes to dire predictions about Monaghan.
We'll toye with Donegal.

Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: omagh_gael on February 11, 2018, 08:29:17 AM
Paddy McBrearty's performance reminded me of Stevy O'Neill in full flow. He was totally unmarkable in the second half. Can't believe he didn't get MotM.

Those Michael Murphy frees completely took the wind out of Donegal's sails, can't believe they gave them to a sub who hadn't even got a chance to stretch his legs. I wonder was that a management calll or Murphy himself?
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Nanderson on February 11, 2018, 10:41:45 AM
Paddy McBrearty's performance reminded me of Stevy O'Neill in full flow. He was totally unmarkable in the second half. Can't believe he didn't get MotM.

Those Michael Murphy frees completely took the wind out of Donegal's sails, can't believe they gave them to a sub who hadn't even got a chance to stretch his legs. I wonder was that a management calll or Murphy himself?
You could see Paddy McBrearty showing murphy the ball as he was coming on signalling more that paddy wanted murphy to hit the free
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: omagh_gael on February 11, 2018, 10:43:41 AM
Surely Monaghan and Kerry will be under threat with the weather?

Kildare should be grand. What's Galway like? Any snow around?
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: FermGael on February 11, 2018, 11:13:03 AM
Monaghan v Kerry off
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: redcard on February 11, 2018, 12:05:36 PM
Paddy McBrearty's performance reminded me of Stevy O'Neill in full flow. He was totally unmarkable in the second half. Can't believe he didn't get MotM.

Those Michael Murphy frees completely took the wind out of Donegal's sails, can't believe they gave them to a sub who hadn't even got a chance to stretch his legs. I wonder was that a management calll or Murphy himself?
You could see Paddy McBrearty showing murphy the ball as he was coming on signalling more that paddy wanted murphy to hit the free

Dean Rock did exactly the same though
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on February 11, 2018, 12:45:01 PM
Surely Monaghan and Kerry will be under threat with the weather?

Kildare should be grand. What's Galway like? Any snow around?

Newbridge might be a bit past its sell by date as a stadium but the pitch has always been top class. I can't remember the last time a game was called off here.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Mayo4Sam14 on February 11, 2018, 01:08:27 PM
Where has Dermo Connolly been?
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Gael85 on February 11, 2018, 01:21:47 PM
Where has Dermo Connolly been?

Only returned to training this week so will probably feature in next  game.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Jinxy on February 11, 2018, 02:12:33 PM
Kildare off to a good start by the sound of it.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Dire Ear on February 11, 2018, 02:24:24 PM
Galway 1-4 Mayo 0-2 --20 mins
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Jinxy on February 11, 2018, 02:27:52 PM
Brilliant finish for the Galway goal.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: tyroneman on February 11, 2018, 03:47:11 PM
Kildare off to a good start by the sound of it.

Thankfully it's how you finish that matters.....
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on February 11, 2018, 04:17:36 PM
I'm sick of supporting football at this stage, just pure frustration watching games these days.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: trileacman on February 11, 2018, 05:19:07 PM
That ref is a clim of the of the highest order.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Mayo4Sam14 on February 11, 2018, 05:47:50 PM
Diarmuid O’ has some sorta cast on his leg after the match
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: inthrough on February 11, 2018, 07:39:53 PM
Diarmuid O’ has some sorta cast on his leg after the match

Its on his head he should have a cast.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Hound on February 11, 2018, 09:40:14 PM
Thought McBrearty was absolutely superb for Donegal. Ryan McHugh not far behind. Neither deserved to be on the losing side. Murphy's four misses very costly. The one that Cluxton caught was a decent enough effort, but the 3 wides were very poor.
Jonny Cooper picked off some amount of interceptions for us.

Galway - Mayo was great gas! Not sure about the calls for red cards for the pushing/shoving nonsense when nobody does anything that warrants a red card. Someone said previously that in the AFL, play would just continue and the lads involved then usually arent long in stopping the jostling and joining in at the football again.

Hard luck for Kildare. Being awarded a free inside your own 45 right at the death when the jinky 11 had the ball in loads of space well inside the tyrone 45 can only be called pathetic reffing.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Orchard park on February 11, 2018, 10:08:06 PM
Diarmuid O’ has some sorta cast on his leg after the match

Heard he had his arm in a  cast after Galway lad head butted it....
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Main Street on February 12, 2018, 12:22:58 AM
Tyrone closed out that game with the points that made the difference, that's where they deservedly nailed this close encounter.
Tough on Kildare though but so many good chances wasted were their undoing, not just a ref who should have allowed them the  advantage at the death.
  On the ref, it annoyed me that twice he penalised the player bending over to gather the loose ball up, rather than the player who clearly bumped him to the ground from behind.
A memorable moment of the game was the ball from a Tyrone player in 2nd half last quarter which hit the top of the post.

Though my gaelic is well rustified but why was the TG4  commentator saying Kee all Daire and not Cill Dara?
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Ohtoohtobe on February 12, 2018, 01:31:12 AM
Don't think we can blame the ref, Tyrone were given a free in at one stage for a foul by O'Grady that clearly happened inside the square.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: From the Bunker on February 12, 2018, 06:42:54 AM
Tyrone closed out that game with the points that made the difference, that's where they deservedly nailed this close encounter.
Tough on Kildare though but so many good chances wasted were their undoing, not just a ref who should have allowed them the  advantage at the death.
  On the ref, it annoyed me that twice he penalised the player bending over to gather the loose ball up, rather than the player who clearly bumped him to the ground from behind.
A memorable moment of the game was the ball from a Tyrone player in 2nd half last quarter which hit the top of the post.

Though my gaelic is well rustified but why was the TG4  commentator saying Kee all Daire and not Cill Dara?

This is one foul that seems to happen all the time! Especially to ''smaller'' players! And never seems to be penalised!
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Dinny Breen on February 12, 2018, 09:28:53 AM
Can't blame the referee. We need to learn to win tight games, when we win we well. Frustrating but we are competitive, the feeling was promotion came a year early as team are still very young only 3 players older than 25. Tough league and that inability to win tight games will probably see us not pick up a point. Very harsh lesson but they need to learn from it to make Super 8.

Donegal game the proverbial 4 pointer.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Farrandeelin on February 12, 2018, 09:49:07 AM
Can't blame the referee. We need to learn to win tight games, when we win we well. Frustrating but we are competitive, the feeling was promotion came a year early as team are still very young only 3 players older than 25. Tough league and that inability to win tight games will probably see us not pick up a point. Very harsh lesson but they need to learn from it to make Super 8.

Donegal game the proverbial 4 pointer.

Ye might beat us after the Dubs give us our annual spring run around.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: macdanger2 on February 12, 2018, 09:42:02 PM
Team   P   +/-   Pts.
1 Dublin 3   17   6
2 Galway 3   10   6
3 Kerry 2   4   4
4 Monaghan 2   0   2
5 Mayo 3   -7   2
6 Tyrone 3   -8   2
7 Donegal 3   -7   0
8 Kildare 3   -9   0

Worth noting that the bottom three have all played Dublin and none have gotten a complete pasting which could make a difference if three teams are tied. Kildare have also played Monaghan & Tyrone though
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Blowitupref on February 12, 2018, 10:07:46 PM
Paddy power odds.

To win the Div 1 title

Dublin 4/9
Kerry 7/2
Galway 11/2
Mayo 20/1
Monaghan 20/1
Tyrone 20/1
Donegal 100/1
Kildare 200/1

To be relegated

Kildare 2/9
Donegal 8/15
Monaghan 9/4
Tyrone 5/2
Mayo 11/4
Galway 33/1
Kerry 50/1
Dublin 200/1
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: sambostar on February 13, 2018, 08:10:27 AM
Mayo worth a punt for relegation at 11-4, play Dubs next so should still be stuck on 2pts after that
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on February 18, 2018, 03:30:36 PM
Some result for Monaghan by the looks of it, I thought Monaghan were a very average team when they beat us in Newbridge while Kerry have looked class up until now but February football can throw up shocks.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on February 18, 2018, 03:55:16 PM
Maybe spoke too soon.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on February 18, 2018, 04:13:20 PM
Great and huge win for Monaghan. Relegation is probably down to Kildare and one of Tyrone, Mayo or Donegal.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: twohands!!! on February 18, 2018, 04:50:48 PM
With the way score difference is at the moment, it's not that far off being worth an extra point to the 2 teams on 4 points - Monaghan and Kerry (both on +2 scoring difference)
The scoring difference for the bottom four is Mayo are -7, Tyrone -8, Donegal -7, Kildare -9

Out of the 12 Division 1 games so far, 5 of them had a winning margin of 1 point.
The other winning margins were 2,3,4,5,5,5,7
Dublin have won their 3 games by 7 points, 5 points and 5 points.

The only one of the bottom 4 that hasn't played Dublin yet is Mayo.
After that Mayo have games against the other 3 teams currently in the bottom 4 so if they don't pick up some points sharpish they look like they will be battling relegation all the way to the finish line.

Looking at the fixtures for the final round Donegal v Mayo looks reasonable odds to be a key relegation decider game.

Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Schkite on February 18, 2018, 05:09:51 PM
Some result for Monaghan by the looks of it, I thought Monaghan were a very average team when they beat us in Newbridge while Kerry have looked class up until now but February football can throw up shocks.


I don't see why it should be seen as a huge shock. We haven't stayed in Division 1 the last few years on pure luck, and we've now beaten Kerry in the league 3 of the last 4 years. And with players missing on both sides, it was hard to know how it would pan out.

Great result and it's a step closer to staying up again, which is vital as the top flight experience is fantastic for the young lads coming through. Had to settle for the radio today, sounds like the ref was pretty bad, with us coming out the better for it given the penalty was soft. Great first half and by all accounts we should have had a bigger lead. But then Kerry came out much stronger in the second half. When they cut the lead to a point and we went a man down, I was sure they would win. But it was encouraging that we held firm and went up the other end to work an insurance score.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Main Street on February 18, 2018, 06:57:28 PM
I watched the deferred coverage until my electricity conked out midway in the 2nd half, when Kerry were 5 points down trying to rally. The ref was alright i thought, the penalty was a stonewall no-brainer, the ref caught most of the silly pick ups off the ground and pushes in the back by the Kerry players, he was fooled  by the
 nr.12 for Kerry who ran away with the award for the best hand grab/ drag down of the game, against a stunned Dessie Mone. It was perfect theatre.
It's hard to read that much into the game outside the context of a league game played in the cold wet boggy environs of Inniskeen. Kerry were pumped, run ragged in the first half, they had a better 2nd half but it was Monaghan who emerged the stronger at the end. Clock it up as a deserved win and the Kerry boys gave our boys a good workout.
Next up is Tyrone who must be devastated at recently losing their beloved McRory cup, will they get their peckers up in time for the clash at Castleblayney?
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on February 18, 2018, 07:07:42 PM
Some result for Monaghan by the looks of it, I thought Monaghan were a very average team when they beat us in Newbridge while Kerry have looked class up until now but February football can throw up shocks.


I don't see why it should be seen as a huge shock. We haven't stayed in Division 1 the last few years on pure luck, and we've now beaten Kerry in the league 3 of the last 4 years. And with players missing on both sides, it was hard to know how it would pan out.

Great result and it's a step closer to staying up again, which is vital as the top flight experience is fantastic for the young lads coming through. Had to settle for the radio today, sounds like the ref was pretty bad, with us coming out the better for it given the penalty was soft. Great first half and by all accounts we should have had a bigger lead. But then Kerry came out much stronger in the second half. When they cut the lead to a point and we went a man down, I was sure they would win. But it was encouraging that we held firm and went up the other end to work an insurance score.

Credit where its due, you obviously don't fear them. Some counties are beat before the ball is thrown in and it might be the difference when it comes to staying up.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: MK on February 18, 2018, 07:14:49 PM
I watched the deferred coverage until my electricity conked out midway in the 2nd half, when Kerry were 5 points down trying to rally. The ref was alright i thought, the penalty was a stonewall no-brainer, the ref caught most of the silly pick ups off the ground and pushes in the back by the Kerry players, he was fooled  by the
 nr.12 for Kerry who ran away with the award for the best hand grab/ drag down of the game, against a stunned Dessie Mone. It was perfect theatre.
It's hard to read that much into the game outside the context of a league game played in the cold wet boggy environs of Inniskeen. Kerry were pumped, run ragged in the first half, they had a better 2nd half but it was Monaghan who emerged the stronger at the end. Clock it up as a deserved win and the Kerry boys gave our boys a good workout.
Next up is Tyrone who must be devastated at recently losing their beloved McRory cup, will they get their peckers up in time for the clash at Castleblayney?

Micky Harte must be devastated that they can't beat schoolboys now whilst his clubmate  oversees a fantastic  victory over one of the top sides.Fair play to Monaghan today and it's good to see games being spread round the county.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: twohands!!! on February 18, 2018, 08:22:30 PM
https://twitter.com/officialgaa/status/965279353369227264 (https://twitter.com/officialgaa/status/965279353369227264)

Looks to me like the Kerry keeper knocks the ball away first and the Monaghan player falls over him after.

No penalty.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Main Street on February 18, 2018, 08:33:00 PM
I watched the deferred coverage until my electricity conked out midway in the 2nd half, when Kerry were 5 points down trying to rally. The ref was alright i thought, the penalty was a stonewall no-brainer, the ref caught most of the silly pick ups off the ground and pushes in the back by the Kerry players, he was fooled  by the
 nr.12 for Kerry who ran away with the award for the best hand grab/ drag down of the game, against a stunned Dessie Mone. It was perfect theatre.
It's hard to read that much into the game outside the context of a league game played in the cold wet boggy environs of Inniskeen. Kerry were pumped, run ragged in the first half, they had a better 2nd half but it was Monaghan who emerged the stronger at the end. Clock it up as a deserved win and the Kerry boys gave our boys a good workout.
Next up is Tyrone who must be devastated at recently losing their beloved McRory cup, will they get their peckers up in time for the clash at Castleblayney?

Micky Harte must be devastated that they can't beat schoolboys now whilst his clubmate  oversees a fantastic  victory over one of the top sides.Fair play to Monaghan today and it's good to see games being spread round the county.
I didn't know Malachy served time at Eirrigal Ciarans. You know what they say,  what doesn't kill you makes you all the stronger.




Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Main Street on February 18, 2018, 08:43:05 PM
https://twitter.com/officialgaa/status/965279353369227264 (https://twitter.com/officialgaa/status/965279353369227264)

Looks to me like the Kerry keeper knocks the ball away first and the Monaghan player falls over him after.

No penalty.
He gets his hand to the ball, at the same time his momentum causes him to clatter into the monaghan player, knocking him over.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Mayo Border on February 18, 2018, 09:33:48 PM
https://twitter.com/officialgaa/status/965279353369227264 (https://twitter.com/officialgaa/status/965279353369227264)

Looks to me like the Kerry keeper knocks the ball away first and the Monaghan player falls over him after.  No penalty.
As clear a penalty as I've seen. And if the ref gives it, then surely a black card.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Farrandeelin on February 19, 2018, 09:56:48 AM
Paddy Neilan is down to ref the Mayo Dublin. Depending on the result the mayogaablog denizens will have a hatred for all things Roscommon or they'll praise him for being a good Connacht man. Can't see him having much of an impact. Dublin will probably win by circa 10 or so.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Orchard park on February 19, 2018, 10:06:54 AM
Paddy Neilan is down to ref the Mayo Dublin. Depending on the result the mayogaablog denizens will have a hatred for all things Roscommon or they'll praise him for being a good Connacht man. Can't see him having much of an impact. Dublin will probably win by circa 10 or so.

he'll manage to have an influence, his application of advantage rule is interesting to say the least
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Main Street on February 19, 2018, 11:02:58 AM
https://twitter.com/officialgaa/status/965279353369227264 (https://twitter.com/officialgaa/status/965279353369227264)

Looks to me like the Kerry keeper knocks the ball away first and the Monaghan player falls over him after.  No penalty.
As clear a penalty as I've seen. And if the ref gives it, then surely a black card.
A penalty yes but I didn't think it was a black card, it didn't appear to be a deliberate collision to take Kearns out of the play.
 


Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: GrandMasterFlash on February 19, 2018, 11:56:16 AM
https://twitter.com/officialgaa/status/965279353369227264 (https://twitter.com/officialgaa/status/965279353369227264)

Looks to me like the Kerry keeper knocks the ball away first and the Monaghan player falls over him after.  No penalty.
As clear a penalty as I've seen. And if the ref gives it, then surely a black card.
A penalty yes but I didn't think it was a black card, it didn't appear to be a deliberate collision to take Kearns out of the play.

We discussed this at the time. It didn't, but the consensus was that a black card was warranted for preventing a definite goal, as Kearns had him beaten. One of those grey areas but definitely a penalty.. I think it would have done Kerry a favour as Murphy had a complete nightmare..

Just listening to RTÉ Radio 1 here - the pundits highly complimentary to Monaghan's continual efforts and not buying into the question posed by Sean O'Rourke re 'the penalty that never was'.

Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: westbound on February 19, 2018, 12:18:39 PM

We discussed this at the time. It didn't, but the consensus was that a black card was warranted for preventing a definite goal, as Kearns had him beaten. One of those grey areas but definitely a penalty.. I think it would have done Kerry a favour as Murphy had a complete nightmare..

Just listening to RTÉ Radio 1 here - the pundits highly complimentary to Monaghan's continual efforts and not buying into the question posed by Sean O'Rourke re 'the penalty that never was'.


That's not the rule!
It's not soccer!
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: GrandMasterFlash on February 19, 2018, 03:14:44 PM

We discussed this at the time. It didn't, but the consensus was that a black card was warranted for preventing a definite goal, as Kearns had him beaten. One of those grey areas but definitely a penalty.. I think it would have done Kerry a favour as Murphy had a complete nightmare..

Just listening to RTÉ Radio 1 here - the pundits highly complimentary to Monaghan's continual efforts and not buying into the question posed by Sean O'Rourke re 'the penalty that never was'.


That's not the rule!
It's not soccer!

Well that's me told, then..  :o
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: An Fhairche Abu on February 19, 2018, 05:22:52 PM
Given that Galway have a good few players who need badly need a break from the routine of back to back matches, is this the weekend to give the likes of Comer and Cooke a break or at least not have them on from the start?
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Cunny Funt on February 19, 2018, 05:35:45 PM
Paddy Neilan is down to ref the Mayo Dublin. Depending on the result the mayogaablog denizens will have a hatred for all things Roscommon or they'll praise him for being a good Connacht man. Can't see him having much of an impact. Dublin will probably win by circa 10 or so.
I'd be surprised if Dublin win by 10 or so points. They only beat Donegal and Kildare at home by 5 and 7 points. The heavy MacHale Park pitch is not one to produce a big score on. The last MacHale park meeting was a dour low scoring one which Dublin won 0-9 to 0-7.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: galwayman on February 19, 2018, 05:44:18 PM
Given that Galway have a good few players who need badly need a break from the routine of back to back matches, is this the weekend to give the likes of Comer and Cooke a break or at least not have them on from the start?
Probably but unlikely to happen I would say.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on February 19, 2018, 06:19:40 PM
Given that Galway have a good few players who need badly need a break from the routine of back to back matches, is this the weekend to give the likes of Comer and Cooke a break or at least not have them on from the start?

Possibly but I can't see him resting very many players going down to Kerry.

I think he'll want a strong enough team out against Monaghan at home too after that, especially as they won yesterday. It's probably a game they will have targeted as winnable.

Then you have the Dubs. Rest too many against them and you might end up shipping an awful hiding.

Kildare in the last game is probably when he may well rest a fair few. Especially if they pick up another win before then.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: twohands!!! on February 19, 2018, 06:49:45 PM
Given that Galway have a good few players who need badly need a break from the routine of back to back matches, is this the weekend to give the likes of Comer and Cooke a break or at least not have them on from the start?

The big thing is whether or not he is interested in a league final - a win over Kerry would put Galway in with a very serious shot of getting to the league final, most likely against Dublin.

That would mean 2 games against Dublin only a few weeks apart, which could potentially be very risky.







Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: An Fhairche Abu on February 19, 2018, 09:13:39 PM
I don't think it's worth getting too bothered about the Dublin game, may as well get shown up where we're weak against the very best, the whole point of Division One football is these types of test, there's no hiding place.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: twohands!!! on February 19, 2018, 09:44:00 PM
clear penalty obviously


Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: weareros on February 19, 2018, 10:57:41 PM
clear penalty obviously




Yeah clear from slow motion that goalie legally tapped ball out of players hands first. The first tv angel definitely made it look like cast iron penalty.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: trileacman on February 19, 2018, 11:04:32 PM
So I you dislodge the ball milling a player is okay in the rule book.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Main Street on February 19, 2018, 11:14:48 PM
Yep, it's the refrain of the soccer pundits coming to the fore,  "he got the ball" ......  therefore the cleaning out collision should be ignored.

Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Main Street on February 19, 2018, 11:17:31 PM
https://twitter.com/officialgaa/status/965279353369227264 (https://twitter.com/officialgaa/status/965279353369227264)

Looks to me like the Kerry keeper knocks the ball away first and the Monaghan player falls over him after.  No penalty.
As clear a penalty as I've seen. And if the ref gives it, then surely a black card.
A penalty yes but I didn't think it was a black card, it didn't appear to be a deliberate collision to take Kearns out of the play.

We discussed this at the time. It didn't, but the consensus was that a black card was warranted for preventing a definite goal, as Kearns had him beaten. One of those grey areas but definitely a penalty.. I think it would have done Kerry a favour as Murphy had a complete nightmare..

Just listening to RTÉ Radio 1 here - the pundits highly complimentary to Monaghan's continual efforts and not buying into the question posed by Sean O'Rourke re 'the penalty that never was'.
Were you there?  Did you get a coveted seat in the stand?  The pitch looked really rough and cut up, way beyond what a bit of damp weather could do.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Maroon Manc on February 20, 2018, 12:30:36 PM
Given that Galway have a good few players who need badly need a break from the routine of back to back matches, is this the weekend to give the likes of Comer and Cooke a break or at least not have them on from the start?

Possibly but I can't see him resting very many players going down to Kerry.

I think he'll want a strong enough team out against Monaghan at home too after that, especially as they won yesterday. It's probably a game they will have targeted as winnable.

Then you have the Dubs. Rest too many against them and you might end up shipping an awful hiding.

Kildare in the last game is probably when he may well rest a fair few. Especially if they pick up another win before then.

Just don't see him resting anyone, probably the first time in 3 weeks the NUIG lads have a 7 day rest. At least there's a 2 week gap between the Monaghan & Dublin games.

As for the team their won't be many changes although I don't see how Sweeney can keep his place in the forwards but won't be surprised to see McHugh make way for Armstrong.

The only player missing we don't seem to know anything about is Danny Cummins, anyone know when he's back?
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Cunny Funt on February 20, 2018, 02:14:49 PM
Kevin Keane and Brian Reape released from the Mayo panel according to today’s Mayo News. A bit odd is it not considering the lack of options at full back and Reape is good scoring forward.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: An Fhairche Abu on February 20, 2018, 03:42:04 PM
What's the story with Keith Higgins, is he out for the entire league for Mayo?
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Cunny Funt on February 20, 2018, 03:51:59 PM
What's the story with Keith Higgins, is he out for the entire league for Mayo?
Busy with the Hurling team at the moment.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: cornetto on February 20, 2018, 04:47:03 PM
I don't think you will see Higgins with the footballers at all this year, somehow the commitment would be too much, seeing the super 8s will be here this year.he is happy with the hurlers.dont think mayo want to announce it in case it turns into a side show.
Could be totally wrong!!!!
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Syferus on February 20, 2018, 05:28:42 PM
I don't think you will see Higgins with the footballers at all this year, somehow the commitment would be too much, seeing the super 8s will be here this year.he is happy with the hurlers.dont think mayo want to announce it in case it turns into a side show.
Could be totally wrong!!!!

That’s some serious backseat psychoanalysis on your part.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Rossfan on February 20, 2018, 06:46:31 PM
I don't think you will see Higgins with the footballers at all this year, somehow the commitment would be too much, seeing the super 8s will be here this year.
Rhubarb arrogance ;D
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: galwayman on February 20, 2018, 07:02:28 PM
I don't think you will see Higgins with the footballers at all this year, somehow the commitment would be too much, seeing the super 8s will be here this year.he is happy with the hurlers.dont think mayo want to announce it in case it turns into a side show.
Could be totally wrong!!!!
Yes you are totally wrong.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on February 20, 2018, 07:06:22 PM
I don't think you will see Higgins with the footballers at all this year, somehow the commitment would be too much, seeing the super 8s will be here this year.he is happy with the hurlers.dont think mayo want to announce it in case it turns into a side show.
Could be totally wrong!!!!
Yes you are totally wrong.

To be fair I do believe that rumour is doing the rounds in Mayo at the moment (that Higgins may not be back). But you know what Mayo is like for rumours. Just ask Lee Keegan.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: larryin89 on February 20, 2018, 07:13:31 PM
Rumours tend to do the rounds in a situation like higgans. Whether true or not , this is all just coming to the end of the road if not this year ,.next year. These bucks have given it everything , nobody can take that from them . Although they will hate it but there is never going to be another discussion on the greatest team never to win the all Ireland , this Mayo team are miles ahead of all in that category.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: seafoid on February 20, 2018, 07:27:10 PM
Rumours tend to do the rounds in a situation like higgans. Whether true or not , this is all just coming to the end of the road if not this year ,.next year. These bucks have given it everything , nobody can take that from them . Although they will hate it but there is never going to be another discussion on the greatest team never to win the all Ireland , this Mayo team are miles ahead of all in that category.
I don't think any team would want the title. Galway lost 3 all Irelands in the early 70s.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Farrandeelin on February 20, 2018, 07:27:34 PM
I don't think you will see Higgins with the footballers at all this year, somehow the commitment would be too much, seeing the super 8s will be here this year.
Rhubarb arrogance ;D

Down to the Division 2 thread YOU AND Syf. There might be a meet and greet party organised by ye for us next year with the way things are looking! :-X
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Maroon Manc on February 21, 2018, 10:24:02 AM
Did McGurk play for Monaghan last Sunday against Kerry? I know he was involved in the first 2 league games.

I was delighted to see him get a chance back home after been playing in Lancashire the last 3 or 4 years, always looked like he was capable of stepping up to this level.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Jinxy on February 21, 2018, 11:26:49 AM
Ye Mayo lads love an oul rumour.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: seafoid on February 21, 2018, 11:43:40 AM
Ye Mayo lads love an oul rumour.
Go back to the D2 thread ya scut.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Maroon Manc on February 21, 2018, 04:43:58 PM
Would liked to have seen Molloy & Dylan Wall get their chance for Galway but its unlikely to happen now with the Kildare game just a week after club final. I know Molloy gets most of the attention but I like the look of Wall whenever I've seen him play.

Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on February 21, 2018, 04:48:02 PM
Would liked to have seen Molloy & Dylan Wall get their chance for Galway but its unlikely to happen now with the Kildare game just a week after club final. I know Molloy gets most of the attention but I like the look of Wall whenever I've seen him play.

Think Molloy could have made the Galway team this year but is probably unlikely to now given Corofin's long run. Can't see him being parachuted in to play Mayo with no league appearances behind him. Maybe later in the Summer he'll get a chance.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Cunny Funt on February 21, 2018, 05:35:23 PM
Would liked to have seen Molloy & Dylan Wall get their chance for Galway but its unlikely to happen now with the Kildare game just a week after club final. I know Molloy gets most of the attention but I like the look of Wall whenever I've seen him play.

Think Molloy could have made the Galway team this year but is probably unlikely to now given Corofin's long run. Can't see him being parachuted in to play Mayo with no league appearances behind him. Maybe later in the Summer he'll get a chance.

Galway likely team v Mayo in May?

R Lavelle/Power

D Kyne,  S A O Ceallaigh , E Kerin

L Silke; G Bradshaw G O’Donnell

T Flynn, P Conroy

J Heaney S Walsh; M Daly,

I Burke D Comer, S Armstrong/E Brannigan
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Maroon Manc on February 21, 2018, 05:44:14 PM
Would liked to have seen Molloy & Dylan Wall get their chance for Galway but its unlikely to happen now with the Kildare game just a week after club final. I know Molloy gets most of the attention but I like the look of Wall whenever I've seen him play.

Think Molloy could have made the Galway team this year but is probably unlikely to now given Corofin's long run. Can't see him being parachuted in to play Mayo with no league appearances behind him. Maybe later in the Summer he'll get a chance.

Galway likely team v Mayo in May?

R Lavelle/Power

D Kyne,  S A O Ceallaigh , E Kerin

L Silke; G Bradshaw G O’Donnell

T Flynn, P Conroy

J Heaney S Walsh; M Daly,

I Burke D Comer, S Armstrong/E Brannigan

I won't be the only one fuming if Flynn starts ahead of Cooke. Brannigan will start too, always seems to play well against Mayo.

Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: GrandMasterFlash on February 23, 2018, 03:27:05 PM
Did McGurk play for Monaghan last Sunday against Kerry? I know he was involved in the first 2 league games.

I was delighted to see him get a chance back home after been playing in Lancashire the last 3 or 4 years, always looked like he was capable of stepping up to this level.

Hi didn't play last weekend, nor was he named in the programme.

Nice article re: http://www.theirishworld.com/paraic-mcguirk-john-mitchels-loss-monaghans-gain/ (http://www.theirishworld.com/paraic-mcguirk-john-mitchels-loss-monaghans-gain/)
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Main Street on February 23, 2018, 05:41:34 PM
Did McGurk play for Monaghan last Sunday against Kerry? I know he was involved in the first 2 league games.

I was delighted to see him get a chance back home after been playing in Lancashire the last 3 or 4 years, always looked like he was capable of stepping up to this level.

Hi didn't play last weekend, nor was he named in the programme.

Nice article re: http://www.theirishworld.com/paraic-mcguirk-john-mitchels-loss-monaghans-gain/ (http://www.theirishworld.com/paraic-mcguirk-john-mitchels-loss-monaghans-gain/)
Access to the article is restricted to subscribers only.

BTW
I haven't read an article  that has used the thread worn cliche "monaghan are punching above their weight"   since last tuesday's Indo
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: The Subbie on February 23, 2018, 08:37:23 PM
Did McGurk play for Monaghan last Sunday against Kerry? I know he was involved in the first 2 league games.

I was delighted to see him get a chance back home after been playing in Lancashire the last 3 or 4 years, always looked like he was capable of stepping up to this level.

Hi didn't play last weekend, nor was he named in the programme.

Nice article re: http://www.theirishworld.com/paraic-mcguirk-john-mitchels-loss-monaghans-gain/ (http://www.theirishworld.com/paraic-mcguirk-john-mitchels-loss-monaghans-gain/)
Access to the article is restricted to subscribers only.

BTW
I haven't read an article  that has used the thread worn cliche "monaghan are punching above their weight"   since last tuesday's Indo

It’s ok Martin Breheny will be doing an in-depth statistical piece in Monday’s Indo which will correlate between the average weight of our panel and the size of the county , nudie will get a mention, he’ll call Conor McManus Ciaran and quote Kavanagh whilst the headline will be Farney punch above their weight under a picture of Barry McGuigan
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: GrandMasterFlash on February 23, 2018, 11:06:32 PM
Did McGurk play for Monaghan last Sunday against Kerry? I know he was involved in the first 2 league games.

I was delighted to see him get a chance back home after been playing in Lancashire the last 3 or 4 years, always looked like he was capable of stepping up to this level.

Hi didn't play last weekend, nor was he named in the programme.

Nice article re: http://www.theirishworld.com/paraic-mcguirk-john-mitchels-loss-monaghans-gain/ (http://www.theirishworld.com/paraic-mcguirk-john-mitchels-loss-monaghans-gain/)
Access to the article is restricted to subscribers only.

BTW
I haven't read an article  that has used the thread worn cliche "monaghan are punching above their weight"   since last tuesday's Indo

It’s ok Martin Breheny will be doing an in-depth statistical piece in Monday’s Indo which will correlate between the average weight of our panel and the size of the county , nudie will get a mention, he’ll call Conor McManus Ciaran and quote Kavanagh whilst the headline will be Farney punch above their weight under a picture of Barry McGuigan

 ;D it's definitely a good problem to have - giving out about the media being trite re our over achieving yet small panel..   ;)
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: GrandMasterFlash on February 23, 2018, 11:12:51 PM
See the Monaghan panel is named: http://www.monaghangaa.ie/2018/02/monaghan-panel-v-tyrone-2/ (http://www.monaghangaa.ie/2018/02/monaghan-panel-v-tyrone-2/)

Not much change other than R Wylie in for the suspended Kerr. I'm not sure I'd have Dessie starting in this game, giving the potential tempestuous nature it may take.. I thought he was a bit of a liability last weekend in his tackling..

On a different note, where is K Hughes, and Barry McGinn to a lesser extent?

Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Blowitupref on February 24, 2018, 12:20:20 AM


Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: cornetto on February 24, 2018, 01:18:26 AM
Strong kerry team,Good game for galway the blanket will be well tested.clifford will tower over kerin,although like Paul Murphy he is tenacious.if Galway don't get parity at midfield it will be a long day.It should be a good game with a lot of young guys eager to impress.TG4 have deferred coverage at 3.45pm.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: PMG1 on February 24, 2018, 06:32:18 PM
Anyone having problems with Premier Sports, I am a subscriber but it is not letting me see it?  Is there any streams for tonight’s games in case it doesn’t work?
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Main Street on February 24, 2018, 06:39:23 PM
Anyone having problems with Premier Sports, I am a subscriber but it is not letting me see it?  Is there any streams for tonight’s games in case it doesn’t work?
Here you go
https://www.firstonetv.net/Live/United-Kingdom/Premier-Sports-89 (https://www.firstonetv.net/Live/United-Kingdom/Premier-Sports-89)
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: on the sideline on February 24, 2018, 07:15:51 PM
Anyone got a link to the tyrone game?
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: omagh_gael on February 24, 2018, 07:54:07 PM
Hard to believe we’re ahead at half time. Colm Cavanagh making all the difference. Peter Harte and Matty stepping up to the plate too.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: redzone on February 24, 2018, 08:44:21 PM
Nudie Hughes good value on northern sound
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: mick999 on February 24, 2018, 08:51:22 PM
https://twitter.com/eirSport/status/967501269207150592
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: seafoid on February 24, 2018, 08:56:57 PM
Very important win for Monaghan.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: twohands!!! on February 24, 2018, 08:57:04 PM
With Monaghan getting the win, it looks like the relegation battle is between Tyrone, Mayo, Donegal, and Kildare.

Be surprising if Kerry got pulled into it even though they are on 4 points.

Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: omagh_gael on February 24, 2018, 09:04:47 PM
We had ample chances to get something there tonight. We don’t have the forwards to compete at the top.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: seafoid on February 24, 2018, 09:40:09 PM
Tyrone have a lot of work to do to stay in D1
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: galwayman on February 24, 2018, 09:45:08 PM
We’re unchanged for tomorrow.
Was hoping to see a change in ff line but not to be.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Schkite on February 24, 2018, 10:00:30 PM
Great to get the win in Blayney tonight. After beating Kerry I was fairly confident we'd be safe in Division 1, but that should secure it now and means we can play the remaining games with a little more freedom and keep exposing the younger players to this level of football.

Fairly cagey game, we started strong but faded for most of the first half, struggling to break down Tyrone's defence. They're a tough team to attack against at the best of times, but we looked lost several times going forward, with nobody willing to take on the responsibility to shoot. That's why McManus coming in was such a boost, he lifted the whole team to edge ahead. That first free was a horrible one to take coming in cold but he absolutely nailed it. Good to see Kieran Hughes making his first appearance of the year too, and he was another man who was sorely missed in terms of making things happen going forward earlier in the game. Even with the late surge though, we still invited Tyrone onto us and they could easily have snatched a draw which wouldn't have been any robbery. But we held on, that's three tight games we've won, and coming out on the right side of those kind of games is a good trait to have. There were some nice scores, but it wasn't a pretty game at times and it's one of those that you're just happy to get the win and get out. I doubt it'll have any bearing on the championship meeting, alot of time and football to play out before we meet again.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Main Street on February 24, 2018, 11:06:04 PM
Not too dissimilar to the league game v Tyrone in Inniskeen where Tyrone fluffed a late chance to equalise the game. We won this one despite pulling our (considerable) punches :)
I think Tyrone can rue their throwing away 2 or 3  good positions in search of a goal in the last quarter when the game was still up for grabs, that was unusually injudicious for Tyrone.
Seeing as old timers Dessie Mone and Vinny Corey got plenty of game time and did well, you'd wonder why Malachy couldn't have got more use out of Paul Finlay last year, besides a few minutes here and there.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Main Street on February 24, 2018, 11:11:12 PM
Very important win for Monaghan.
Not really, there would always be Galway.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Main Street on February 24, 2018, 11:21:43 PM
Anyone got a link to the tyrone game?
You'd have to be from Tyrone to post such a dumb request right after post which offered you a viable link to a quality stream of the the Monaghan v Tyrone game.

Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on February 25, 2018, 03:00:51 AM
Monaghan have some tidy grounds for a small county. Clones obviously but Castleblaney looked a decent ground with a fine stand and Iniskeen is a nice small ground.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Syferus on February 25, 2018, 03:05:05 AM
Mayo and Tyrone looks like a relegation playoff. Two of the apparent top four heading into the year..

#FreeSheroize
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Go home ref on February 25, 2018, 02:22:18 PM
Eoin Doyle given second yellow for not having a gumshield absolutely ludicrous stuff
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: J70 on February 25, 2018, 02:23:39 PM
Eoin Doyle given second yellow for not having a gumshield absolutely ludicrous stuff

Was reading that on the Donegal twitter feed.

Didn't even know that was a bookable offense!
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Go home ref on February 25, 2018, 02:29:41 PM
Absolute nonsense should be personal choice no doubt some nonsense of a committee came up with this to justify their existence also extremely pedantic of ref should have been let go
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: J70 on February 25, 2018, 02:37:43 PM
Sounds like a rip roaring match!

Kildare lead 1-3 to 0-4 coming up to half time.

In fairness, Ballyshannon in February with the wind on the top of that hill coming in off the Atlantic doesn't exactly lend itself to quality football.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: J70 on February 25, 2018, 02:38:57 PM
1-3 to 0-5 at the half.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on February 25, 2018, 02:40:49 PM
Kildare had the wind in that half, they are destined to be relegated still.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: J70 on February 25, 2018, 03:23:48 PM
WTF is going on with the Donegal defence???

Another goal for Kildare.

All level 3-5 to 0-14
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: J70 on February 25, 2018, 03:27:58 PM
Ryan McHugh with a Donegal goal.

1-15 to 3-5 with seven or eight minutes left
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: seafoid on February 25, 2018, 03:29:40 PM
Kildare will probably lose by a point ....again
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: J70 on February 25, 2018, 03:37:54 PM
2 points in it in the end. 1-15 to 3-7.

First win for Donegal. Tyrone away next weekend.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Donnellys Hollow on February 25, 2018, 03:40:49 PM
Eoin Doyle given second yellow for not having a gumshield absolutely ludicrous stuff

Logs on to Inpho and Sportsfile to look for photos of Donegal players without gum shields.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on February 25, 2018, 03:46:12 PM
Eoin Doyle does have a bad lisp, I imagine he struggles to communicate clearly with the shield in place and as the marshal of the defence he does do a lot of talking and organizing. I know he has his detractors lately but he is Kildare's most important player and we seen against Armagh last year how the defence falls apart when he isn't there.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: RMDrive on February 25, 2018, 03:46:51 PM
Good win but jaysus we’re so porous at the back. Good effort from Kildare with 14 men. Ridiculous sending off unless he was warned in advance. The gum shield rule is a good one however enforcement is not consistent and Kildare will rightly feel aggrieved. Flukey goal from Ryan McHugh the difference in the end.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Jinxy on February 25, 2018, 03:55:38 PM
The gum-shield rule is there for the players own good.
As long as the rule was applied to every player on the field, Doyle can have no complaints.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: clonadmad on February 25, 2018, 04:10:00 PM
Absolute nonsense should be personal choice no doubt some nonsense of a committee came up with this to justify their existence also extremely pedantic of ref should have been let go

If he gets a few teeth knocked out of his head,will he pay for it himself then?

No gumshield,no insurance and it’s not put in place by some “nonsense” of a committee,it’s a stipulation of the insurance company

He was told by the ref to get a gum shield and he goes and sticks it in his sock

Fully deserved yellow card
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: DuffleKing on February 25, 2018, 04:10:28 PM
Refs generally only realise a player has no gumshield if they slabber at him and he then sees an easy way to chastise
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on February 25, 2018, 04:12:23 PM
FT

Kerry 0-14 Galway 1-14
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Dinny Breen on February 25, 2018, 05:06:37 PM
Absolute nonsense should be personal choice no doubt some nonsense of a committee came up with this to justify their existence also extremely pedantic of ref should have been let go

If he gets a few teeth knocked out of his head,will he pay for it himself then?

No gumshield,no insurance and it’s not put in place by some “nonsense” of a committee,it’s a stipulation of the insurance company

He was told by the ref to get a gum shield and he goes and sticks it in his sock

Fully deserved yellow card

Hardly fully deserved, unless you playing in the game you have no idea what was said or not said. Common sense completely lacking in GAA referees, quelle surprise. Kildare's lack of accuracy cost them here again, left an awful lot behind in the first half, should have been 5/6 up at half time.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: seafoid on February 25, 2018, 05:10:22 PM
FT

Kerry 0-14 Galway 1-14
Super win for 4/4 .
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Go home ref on February 25, 2018, 05:14:00 PM
Absolute nonsense should be personal choice no doubt some nonsense of a committee came up with this to justify their existence also extremely pedantic of ref should have been let go

If he gets a few teeth knocked out of his head,will he pay for it himself then?

No gumshield,no insurance and it’s not put in place by some “nonsense” of a committee,it’s a stipulation of the insurance company

He was told by the ref to get a gum shield and he goes and sticks it in his sock

Fully deserved yellow card

Absolute rubbish he was on his way to get gumshield when ball was kicked to him none of the other players knew he'd been sent to get gumshield and was then given second yellow fully deserved 😂😂
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: manfromdelmonte on February 25, 2018, 05:15:45 PM
Kerry don't like it when its put up to them

the stunt of removing the Galway footballs from behind their goal in the first half shows how petty Kerry are
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: J70 on February 25, 2018, 05:42:38 PM
According to the Democrat report on the game, that sending off sounds awfully harsh and a referee completely lacking in common sense.

https://www.donegaldemocrat.ie/news/sport/299027/donegal-concede-three-goals-but-still-scrape-over-the-line-against-kildare.html (https://www.donegaldemocrat.ie/news/sport/299027/donegal-concede-three-goals-but-still-scrape-over-the-line-against-kildare.html)

Donegal concede three goals but still scrape over the line against Kildare

Peter Campbell 25 Feb 2018

Donegal scraped a two point win to keep their Division One survival hopes alive in Fr. Tierney Park, Ballyshannon.

Donegal 1-15
Kildare 3-7


However, there will be post mortems about conceding three goals and they were lucky on another two occasions as Kildare found huge gaps in the middle of the Donegal defence

It was probably Donegal's worst performance of the year, yet they ended getting their first league points. The win puts them back in the mix as regards staying in Division One, but they will need improvement as they go to Healy Park, Omagh next Saturday night.

Kildare manager, Cian O'Neill, was outraged with the decision to red card his captain Eoin Doyle on 14 minutes. Doyle had been booked earlier but then lost his gumshield. Referee David Gough told him to go the sideline and get a replacement but on his way there the Kildare 'keeper aimed a kick-out at hime and he caught it. Gough showed him a yellow card and then realised that it was his second yellow, so he was shown red.
The Kildare manager felt that the game should have been stopped until his captain got off the field to replace his gumshield as the 'keeper was unaware of the situation.

Donegal went three points clear on two occasions in the second half but each time they conceded a goal to allow Kildare back into the contest.

It took a fortuitous goal from Ryan McHugh with six minutes left to finally put enough daylight between the teams, the ball deceiving the Kildare 'keeper and ending in the net. McHugh ended as Donegal's top scorer while Patrick McBrearty had three fisted points in his tally of four.

Kildare had the aid of the strong breeze and got off to a whirlwind start with a goal on two minutes. Tommy Moolick broke clear to set up Daniel Flynn for an easy finish.

Ryan McHugh set up Odhran MacNiallais for a Donegal point but they were lucky not to concede a second goal as Flynn was adjudged to be in the square when palming home. Kevin Feely pointed a free while Hugh McFadden had a good Donegal point at the other end.
Kildare were bizarrely reduced to 14 on 14 minutes when captain Eoin Doyle, who was booked for a late tackle on Ryan McHugh, was then shown a second yellow for not having a gumbshield.

While Johnny Byrne added a point for the Lilywhites, they were lucky not to be reduced to 13 when Cian O'Donoghue was high and into the back of Ryan McHugh.

Michael Murphy pointed a free but Kevin Keely cancelled that score, but in the final ten minutes Patrick McBrearty came to life to fist two good points and leave just a point in it at the break - Donegal 0-5, Kildare 1-3.

Donegal also had a goal chance when Michael Murphy put Jamie Brennan through, but his effort was well blocked.

The second half was a more exciting affair. The sides traded early points before Donegal hit four on the trot to go three clear. But then a second goal by Niall Kelly had Kildare level and Fergal Conway put them in front.

Donegal again hit back with Ryan McHugh to the fore with two great points as they again went three clear. But once more a third goal from David Slattery had the sides level with ten minutes left.

A point from Hugh McFadden and a goal from Ryan McHugh, which went all the way to the net from near the sideline was the last turning point.
Kildare did get two late points but it was not enough to deprive Donegal of the win.

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Scorers: Donegal: Ryan McHugh 1-2; Patrick McBrearty 0-4,1f; Michael Murphy 0-3,1f; Hugh McFadden 0-2; Eoghan Ban Gallagher, Odhran Mac Niallais, Jamie Brennan, Niall O'Donnell 0-1 each.
Kildare: Daniel Flynn 1-1; Kevin Feely 0-3,3f; Niall Kelly, David Slattery 1-0 each; Johnny Byrne, Kevin Flynn 0-1 each.


DONEGAL: Shaun Patton; Eoghan Bán Gallagher, Caolan Ward, Stephen McMenamin; Paul Brennan, Eamonn Doherty, Tony McClenaghan; Hugh McFadden, Odhran Mac Niallais; Ryan McHugh, Leo McLoone, Mark McHugh; Patrick McBrearty, Michael Murphy, Jamie Brennan. Subs., Niall O'Donnell for McClenaghan ht; Neil McGee for Ward 51; Stephen McBrearty for Brennan 55; Caolan McGonagle for M McHugh 60; Ciaran Thompson for Mac Niallais 64; Nathan Mullins for O'Donnell 70

KILDARE: Mark Donnellan; Peter Kelly, David Hyland, Mick O'Grady; Cian O'Donoghue, Eoin Doyle, Johnny Byrne; Kevin Feely, Tommy Moolick; Fergal Conway, Niall Kelly, Paul Cribbin; Ben McCormack, Daniel Flynn, Keith Cribbin. Subs., Paddy Brophy for McCormack 25; Kevin Flynn for O'Donoghue ht; David Slattery for P Cribbin 55; Chris Healy for Kelly 60; Fionn Dowling for Conway 64; Mark Sherry for Moolick 69

REFEREE: David Gough (Meath)
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: seafoid on February 25, 2018, 06:29:30 PM
It is getting very interesting. Mayo , Donegal and  Tyrone on 2. Kildare pointless. 2 to go down.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Avondhu star on February 25, 2018, 06:35:55 PM
Eoin Doyle given second yellow for not having a gumshield absolutely ludicrous stuff

Ignore safety items. He can always stick in a claim to the GAA insurance scheme if he gets a slap
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Jinxy on February 25, 2018, 06:42:02 PM
It is getting very interesting. Mayo , Donegal and  Tyrone on 2. Kildare pointless. 2 to go down.

Harsh.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Rossfan on February 25, 2018, 06:43:08 PM
Lintended to some awful shite on RTÉ1  on way home from Drogheda.
Tan O'Hara and Máirtín praising Galway to the skies. If I didn't know better I'd have them down as  hot favourites to take over the Dublin mantle.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Go home ref on February 25, 2018, 06:43:58 PM
Gough delighted to be centre of attention again the man is a disgrace.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Jinxy on February 25, 2018, 06:44:49 PM
Best ref in the country.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: From the Bunker on February 25, 2018, 06:50:01 PM
Best ref in the country.

What do you call a Meath man at a Division One game?

The Referee.....................Boom Boom!
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: galwayman on February 25, 2018, 06:51:42 PM
Best ref in the country.
My hole. The lad craves to be the centre of attention.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on February 25, 2018, 06:52:07 PM
Best ref in the country.

Coldrick and Cormac Reilly both in the mix too surely.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Gael85 on February 25, 2018, 06:55:07 PM
Kerry don't like it when its put up to them

the stunt of removing the Galway footballs from behind their goal in the first half shows how petty Kerry are

What happened there? Anyone know why Sean Andy and Johnny Heaney were blackcarded? Kerry forwards holding the Galway backs on kickouts and getting away with it again. Done same in Monaghan last week.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Go home ref on February 25, 2018, 07:10:05 PM
Best ref in the country.

Coldrick and Cormac Reilly both in the mix too surely.

The top 3 of disgraceful refs alright.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Avondhu star on February 25, 2018, 07:25:54 PM
Kerry don't like it when its put up to them

the stunt of removing the Galway footballs from behind their goal in the first half shows how petty Kerry are

What would you expect? Once Kerry knew Mayo had them beaten last year Donaghey showed his true form
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Farrandeelin on February 25, 2018, 08:06:19 PM
Best ref in the country.

What do you call a Meath man at a Division One game?

The Referee.....................Boom Boom!

 ;D
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: cornetto on February 25, 2018, 08:41:59 PM
The league sure is hotting up a Galway and dublin win next weekend,would probably see Galway through to a league final.
At the other end kildare are at home to mayo,if kildare could scrape a win,I think in there final game, Galway will have a weakened team so kildare should win to give them 4pts.so Tyrone Donegal mayo will need a minimum of four points to survive.is it scoring difference or head to head that decides placing?
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Farrandeelin on February 25, 2018, 08:49:46 PM
The league sure is hotting up a Galway and dublin win next weekend,would probably see Galway through to a league final.
At the other end kildare are at home to mayo,if kildare could scrape a win,I think in there final game, Galway will have a weakened team so kildare should win to give them 4pts.so Tyrone Donegal mayo will need a minimum of four points to survive.is it scoring difference or head to head that decides placing?

Scoring diff if more than two, head to head if two level on points. It's kill or be killed for Mayo now to remain in the Division.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: From the Bunker on February 25, 2018, 08:52:32 PM
The league sure is hotting up a Galway and dublin win next weekend,would probably see Galway through to a league final.
At the other end kildare are at home to mayo,if kildare could scrape a win,I think in there final game, Galway will have a weakened team so kildare should win to give them 4pts.so Tyrone Donegal mayo will need a minimum of four points to survive.is it scoring difference or head to head that decides placing?

Scoring diff if more than two, head to head if two level on points. It's kill or be killed for Mayo now to remain in the Division.

Ah the now annual relegation fear coming into the home strait!
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Main Street on February 25, 2018, 09:38:37 PM
It's tough at the bottom, you just have to learn how to punch above your weight.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: on the sideline on February 25, 2018, 11:58:46 PM
Anyone got a link to the tyrone game?
You'd have to be from Tyrone to post such a dumb request right after post which offered you a viable link to a quality stream of the the Monaghan v Tyrone game.

That link showed the Mayo Dublin game.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: seafoid on February 26, 2018, 09:39:18 AM
Boyle sports have Monaghan at 6/1 to be relegated. I can see them losing their next 3 matches but I can't see Tyrone and Mayo and Donegal pipping them given the fixtures.

 :Monaghan have Galway (8) Donegal (2)  Dublin(8)

Mayo have Tyrone (2)  Donegal (2) Kildare (0)
  
Tyrone have Donegal (2) Mayo (2) Kerry (4)

Donegal have Tyrone (2) Mayo (2)  Monaghan (6)
 
Kildare have Donegal (2)
 Mayo (2) Galway (8) 
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: skeog on February 26, 2018, 09:46:34 AM
Seafoid is Kildare playing Donegal twice.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: yellowcard on February 26, 2018, 10:09:25 AM
Colm O'Rourke on trying to justify the decision made by Gough last night was embarrassing yet not surprising given that he was a fellow Meath man.

Where was the common sense applied by Gough, I can fully understand Cian O'Neill's bemusement, no wonder players and managers are driven mental by referees sometimes. It had a huge impact on the game given that he was the Kildare captain and that it was early on in the match.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Maroon Manc on February 26, 2018, 10:19:37 AM
FT

Kerry 0-14 Galway 1-14

That scoreline doesn't tell the whole story. Galway missed 5 goal chances; Sweeney early on, Brannigan took his point but the goal was on, Walsh's missed chance, Sean Andy's wild shot when clear on goal and then the terrible pass from Armstrong to Walsh when only a few yards out. I think I might be missing another one?

I assume Heaney & Sean Andy got black cards for descent?

The kickouts continue to be a huge problem, Galway were under a lot of pressure during the 2nd half and must have kicked at least 4 in a row into Kerry hands.

Overall a very good performance from Galway and looked very dangerous everytime they went forward. Brannigan is a huge plus point, his shooting has stepped up a notch.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: seafoid on February 26, 2018, 10:25:51 AM
FT

Kerry 0-14 Galway 1-14

That scoreline doesn't tell the whole story. Galway missed 5 goal chances; Sweeney early on, Brannigan took his point but the goal was on, Walsh's missed chance, Sean Andy's wild shot when clear on goal and then the terrible pass from Armstrong to Walsh when only a few yards out. I think I might be missing another one?

I assume Heaney & Sean Andy got black cards for descent?

The kickouts continue to be a huge problem, Galway were under a lot of pressure during the 2nd half and must have kicked at least 4 in a row into Kerry hands.

Overall a very good performance from Galway and looked very dangerous everytime they went forward. Brannigan is a huge plus point, his shooting has stepped up a notch.
The kickouts need a bit of work but compared to last year a lot of other problems seem to have been taken care of
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Jinxy on February 26, 2018, 11:02:39 AM
What's the average age of that Galway side?
They look like a Sigerson team.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: An Fhairche Abu on February 26, 2018, 11:23:38 AM
That scoreline doesn't tell the whole story. Galway missed 5 goal chances; Sweeney early on, Brannigan took his point but the goal was on, Walsh's missed chance, Sean Andy's wild shot when clear on goal and then the terrible pass from Armstrong to Walsh when only a few yards out. I think I might be missing another one?

I assume Heaney & Sean Andy got black cards for descent?

The kickouts continue to be a huge problem, Galway were under a lot of pressure during the 2nd half and must have kicked at least 4 in a row into Kerry hands.

Overall a very good performance from Galway and looked very dangerous everytime they went forward. Brannigan is a huge plus point, his shooting has stepped up a notch.

Kickouts/breaking ball and the overall midfield sector in general is likely to be the Galway Achilles heel moving forward, the pastings we've taken in the past two years have all come when the middle third has been cleaned out, particularly against Tipperary in 2016 and Roscommon in the Connacht Final of 2017.

Word of caution in that it's only February but at least there is a better cut to Galway these days, they clearly are well drilled and adhering to a plan. Whether that plan will lead to a successful summer is a very different question but Galway are at least showing effort, aggression and application, we've seen far too many Galway football teams that didn't meet those minimum level prerequisites lining out on the pitch over the past 10 years. There's plenty to work on yet but the wins have to build good confidence within the group at the very least.

Galway did well to get out of Tralee with the ref leaning decisions towards the home team and the 7 (!) minutes of additional time against that breeze. The closeness of the scoreline is their own fault really though, in that it's more so the missed goal chances that are a concern, those need to be buried at this level really, the three on one was totally butchered by Armstrong.
Whatever about fitness, and I think it's highly likely Galway are ahead of some other teams in this respect at the moment, you can't train pace, a nice few of the Galway starters have it now.

Galway have time to tailor the training schedule to aim for May 13th now as well given that Division One status is secure, this could be the biggest plus of the fast start to the league as the remaining results are only relevant to making a league final against the Dubs. Although maybe two tests against the best team to show up Galway's flaws in the most glaring manner mightn't be the worst thing long term for them either if it came to pass.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Main Street on February 26, 2018, 11:51:58 AM
Anyone got a link to the tyrone game?
You'd have to be from Tyrone to post such a dumb request right after post which offered you a viable link to a quality stream of the the Monaghan v Tyrone game.

That link showed the Mayo Dublin game.
And after that game they showed the Monaghan game.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: galwayman on February 26, 2018, 12:56:39 PM
That scoreline doesn't tell the whole story. Galway missed 5 goal chances; Sweeney early on, Brannigan took his point but the goal was on, Walsh's missed chance, Sean Andy's wild shot when clear on goal and then the terrible pass from Armstrong to Walsh when only a few yards out. I think I might be missing another one?

I assume Heaney & Sean Andy got black cards for descent?

The kickouts continue to be a huge problem, Galway were under a lot of pressure during the 2nd half and must have kicked at least 4 in a row into Kerry hands.

Overall a very good performance from Galway and looked very dangerous everytime they went forward. Brannigan is a huge plus point, his shooting has stepped up a notch.

Kickouts/breaking ball and the overall midfield sector in general is likely to be the Galway Achilles heel moving forward, the pastings we've taken in the past two years have all come when the middle third has been cleaned out, particularly against Tipperary in 2016 and Roscommon in the Connacht Final of 2017.

Word of caution in that it's only February but at least there is a better cut to Galway these days, they clearly are well drilled and adhering to a plan. Whether that plan will lead to a successful summer is a very different question but Galway are at least showing effort, aggression and application, we've seen far too many Galway football teams that didn't meet those minimum level prerequisites lining out on the pitch over the past 10 years. There's plenty to work on yet but the wins have to build good confidence within the group at the very least.

Galway did well to get out of Tralee with the ref leaning decisions towards the home team and the 7 (!) minutes of additional time against that breeze. The closeness of the scoreline is their own fault really though, in that it's more so the missed goal chances that are a concern, those need to be buried at this level really, the three on one was totally butchered by Armstrong.
Whatever about fitness, and I think it's highly likely Galway are ahead of some other teams in this respect at the moment, you can't train pace, a nice few of the Galway starters have it now.

Galway have time to tailor the training schedule to aim for May 13th now as well given that Division One status is secure, this could be the biggest plus of the fast start to the league as the remaining results are only relevant to making a league final against the Dubs. Although maybe two tests against the best team to show up Galway's flaws in the most glaring manner mightn't be the worst thing long term for them either if it came to pass.
If we beat Monaghan on Sunday & the Dubs beat Kerry on Saturday then I believe it’s a guaranteed Galway Dublin final?
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Schkite on February 26, 2018, 12:57:30 PM
Boyle sports have Monaghan at 6/1 to be relegated. I can see them losing their next 3 matches but I can't see Tyrone and Mayo and Donegal pipping them given the fixtures.

 :Monaghan have Galway (8) Donegal (2)  Dublin(8)

Mayo have Tyrone (2)  Donegal (2) Kildare (0)
   
Tyrone have Donegal (2) Mayo (2) Kerry (4)

Donegal have Tyrone (2) Mayo (2)  Monaghan (6)
 
Kildare have Donegal (2)
 Mayo (2) Galway (8)

Sure isn't it a wonder Monaghan have any points on the board at all?
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: An Fhairche Abu on February 26, 2018, 12:59:08 PM
If we beat Monaghan on Sunday & the Dubs beat Kerry on Saturday then I believe it’s a guaranteed Galway Dublin final?
Yeah, I think that's the case.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Maroon Manc on February 26, 2018, 01:26:51 PM
What's the average age of that Galway side?
They look like a Sigerson team.

Its about 23/24 and I'd expect it to get younger with 2 of the older players in the Sweeney twins to be replaced by Daly & Silke come the championship.

Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Maroon Manc on February 26, 2018, 01:29:26 PM
If we beat Monaghan on Sunday & the Dubs beat Kerry on Saturday then I believe it’s a guaranteed Galway Dublin final?
Yeah, I think that's the case.

Thats right, if 2 teams are level its done on a head to head basis and only Monaghan could match Galway's 10 points.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on February 26, 2018, 01:51:25 PM
That scoreline doesn't tell the whole story. Galway missed 5 goal chances; Sweeney early on, Brannigan took his point but the goal was on, Walsh's missed chance, Sean Andy's wild shot when clear on goal and then the terrible pass from Armstrong to Walsh when only a few yards out. I think I might be missing another one?

I assume Heaney & Sean Andy got black cards for descent?

The kickouts continue to be a huge problem, Galway were under a lot of pressure during the 2nd half and must have kicked at least 4 in a row into Kerry hands.

Overall a very good performance from Galway and looked very dangerous everytime they went forward. Brannigan is a huge plus point, his shooting has stepped up a notch.

Kickouts/breaking ball and the overall midfield sector in general is likely to be the Galway Achilles heel moving forward, the pastings we've taken in the past two years have all come when the middle third has been cleaned out, particularly against Tipperary in 2016 and Roscommon in the Connacht Final of 2017.

Word of caution in that it's only February but at least there is a better cut to Galway these days, they clearly are well drilled and adhering to a plan. Whether that plan will lead to a successful summer is a very different question but Galway are at least showing effort, aggression and application, we've seen far too many Galway football teams that didn't meet those minimum level prerequisites lining out on the pitch over the past 10 years. There's plenty to work on yet but the wins have to build good confidence within the group at the very least.

Galway did well to get out of Tralee with the ref leaning decisions towards the home team and the 7 (!) minutes of additional time against that breeze. The closeness of the scoreline is their own fault really though, in that it's more so the missed goal chances that are a concern, those need to be buried at this level really, the three on one was totally butchered by Armstrong.
Whatever about fitness, and I think it's highly likely Galway are ahead of some other teams in this respect at the moment, you can't train pace, a nice few of the Galway starters have it now.

Galway have time to tailor the training schedule to aim for May 13th now as well given that Division One status is secure, this could be the biggest plus of the fast start to the league as the remaining results are only relevant to making a league final against the Dubs. Although maybe two tests against the best team to show up Galway's flaws in the most glaring manner mightn't be the worst thing long term for them either if it came to pass.
If we beat Monaghan on Sunday & the Dubs beat Kerry on Saturday then I believe it’s a guaranteed Galway Dublin final?

More or less. Galway could end up playing the Dubs twice in a few weeks.

On one hand games against top sides is great for a young team to experience and for them to develop. On the other hand Roscommon 2016 keeps being mentioned with regards to this Galway side. Will they burn though the league only to fizzle out come the Summer? Granted just because it happened to one team doesn't mean it's automatically going to happen to another. There is still a good few lads to come back to freshen things up between Daly, Cummins and the 5 or 6 Corofin lads that will join the squad.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Cunny Funt on February 26, 2018, 02:47:43 PM
Defensively is probably what is the most impressive thing about Galway in Div one this year. 0-8,0-14,0-11 and 0-14 is all that they have conceded in their games so far and from play even better with just 0-5,0-8,0-5,0-9 conceded.

Its seems Sean Andy O Ceallaigh is already living up to his potential as yesterday he marked and held one of the top forwards in country Paul Geaney scoreless.  Galway have a strong tradition for winning trophies and they are in a good position now to win their first national title since 2001 (not counting a Div 2 title) why shouldn't they go for it?
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Maroon Manc on February 26, 2018, 02:53:01 PM
I can see the Roscommon comparisons but think they had a different set of circumstances, Roscommon lacked the physicality this Galway team have. Galway have 7 or 8 players to come back into the panel so would have a greater strength in depth too.

I'm sure Galway have learned lessons from what happened to Roscommon and it would be ridiculous error of judgement for Galway to replicate their mistakes.

Dublin fitness levels are ahead of most counties too, they may not have been training collectively for too long but their certainly fitter than most;
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Syferus on February 26, 2018, 02:59:22 PM
I can see the Roscommon comparisons but think they had a different set of circumstances, Roscommon lacked the physicality this Galway team have. Galway have 7 or 8 players to come back into the panel so would have a greater strength in depth too.

I'm sure Galway have learned lessons from what happened to Roscommon and it would be ridiculous error of judgement for Galway to replicate their mistakes.

Dublin fitness levels are ahead of most counties too, they may not have been training collectively for too long but their certainly fitter than most;

Roscommon had Leitrim in May and Sligo in late June in 2016. Not exactly Earth-shattering work. Galway have Mayo in McHale in mid-May and are going full championship pace at the minute. The gap between league ending and the championship starting has significantly narrowed in the last two years.

The 2016 version of the Roscommon team was much beefier than last year’s or even this year’s one so to say it lacked physicality would be a bit of a lie.

If Galway beat Monaghan two big beatings from Dublin may cap the league campaign for Galway which will present its own problems alongside burnout.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on February 26, 2018, 03:17:14 PM
Defensively is probably what is the most impressive thing about Galway in Div one this year. 0-8,0-14,0-11 and 0-14 is all that they have conceded in their games so far and from play even better with just 0-5,0-8,0-5,0-9 conceded.

Its seems Sean Andy O Ceallaigh is already living up to his potential as yesterday he marked and held one of the top forwards in country Paul Geaney scoreless. 

He has everything you want in a full-back alright. He's big, strong and athletic on top of it. Not slow either. He can run with forwards. Confident lad as well as can be seen how he's very comfortable carrying the ball up the field. Just lacks the experience of marking top forwards but that is just game time at this level. His shooting is not the best though judging by yesterday.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Blowitupref on February 26, 2018, 03:48:00 PM
I can see the Roscommon comparisons but think they had a different set of circumstances, Roscommon lacked the physicality this Galway team have. Galway have 7 or 8 players to come back into the panel so would have a greater strength in depth too.

I'm sure Galway have learned lessons from what happened to Roscommon and it would be ridiculous error of judgement for Galway to replicate their mistakes.

Dublin fitness levels are ahead of most counties too, they may not have been training collectively for too long but their certainly fitter than most;

I think you could say Roscommon never fully recovered from the league semi final trimming v Kerry that year and Galway and Clare that summer exploited their defensive weakness. Galway going extremely well right now and I don't see them changing the starting team from yesterday too much for the Mayo meeting in May. Galway should go on to reach the league final now against Dublin and so long as Galway avoid a trimming in the final they will be in a very good place for the championship.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Duine Eile on February 26, 2018, 04:59:45 PM
Great to get a result like that in Kerry. Brannigan was excellent along with Sean Andy. Sean Kelly was good but I don't think he's ready yet he's still very light and prone to a lot of mistakes. Ruairí Lavelle had a good enough first half and made 2 good saves at the end but he's determined to put his teammates under pressure between coming out of goal and constantly landing kick outs on top of congested areas, he kept going down the terrace wing in the second half where there was about 8 players waiting while th other wing had Sean Kelly or Damien Comer on his own, not to mention the 2 kicks that went over the sideline. He's not strong enough on the ball for all his venturing away from goal either, he reached the 45 yesterday before he passed the ball. Our finishing let us down badly yesterday, a lot of lads going for goal when the simple point was there to be taken, too many chances not taken that will be punished badly on other days. The back line did well, they were fairly steady through out. The black cards are adding up though, along with the yellows. Our discipline needs a bit of work, Conroy seems to make it his mission to get at least one yellow per game. Plenty to work on but that's Division 1 secured for another year which being honest nobody really expected before the campaign started.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on February 26, 2018, 05:30:10 PM
If Galway beat Monaghan two big beatings from Dublin may cap the league campaign for Galway which will present its own problems alongside burnout.

They have Kildare in between to help maintain confidence.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: seafoid on February 26, 2018, 05:49:16 PM
Galway get a lot of mentions in the first 20 minutes

https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/the-throwin-kerry-need-to-wise-up-galways-new-system-and-why-dublin-hurling-wont-be-built-in-a-day-36644721.html
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Main Street on February 26, 2018, 05:57:34 PM
Boyle sports have Monaghan at 6/1 to be relegated. I can see them losing their next 3 matches but I can't see Tyrone and Mayo and Donegal pipping them given the fixtures.

 :Monaghan have Galway (8) Donegal (2)  Dublin(8)

Mayo have Tyrone (2)  Donegal (2) Kildare (0)
   
Tyrone have Donegal (2) Mayo (2) Kerry (4)

Donegal have Tyrone (2) Mayo (2)  Monaghan (6)
 
Kildare have Donegal (2)
 Mayo (2) Galway (8)

Sure isn't it a wonder Monaghan have any points on the board at all?
As was already blatantly obvious from his previous utterances, Seafold should stay away from referencing betting patterns, and in regards to his relentless inaccurate gloom and doom predictions re Monaghan, he's like a Mr Magoo when assessing a piece of art.
Monaghan are not in the reckoning for relegation by the betting exchanges. Boyle Sports just haven't updated their odds to reflect the new reality after this weekend, Monaghan (virtually) can not be relegated. 

Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: seafoid on February 26, 2018, 06:12:28 PM
Boyle sports have Monaghan at 6/1 to be relegated. I can see them losing their next 3 matches but I can't see Tyrone and Mayo and Donegal pipping them given the fixtures.

 :Monaghan have Galway (8) Donegal (2)  Dublin(8)

Mayo have Tyrone (2)  Donegal (2) Kildare (0)
   
Tyrone have Donegal (2) Mayo (2) Kerry (4)

Donegal have Tyrone (2) Mayo (2)  Monaghan (6)
 
Kildare have Donegal (2)
 Mayo (2) Galway (8)

Sure isn't it a wonder Monaghan have any points on the board at all?
As was already blatantly obvious from his previous utterances, Seafold should stay away from referencing betting patterns, and in regards to his relentless inaccurate gloom and doom predictions re Monaghan, he's like a Mr Magoo when assessing a piece of art.
Monaghan are not in the reckoning for relegation by the betting exchanges. Boyle Sports just haven't updated their odds to reflect the new reality after this weekend, Monaghan (virtually) can not be relegated.
I agree. There is no way Monaghan can be relegated. Boyles mustn't be paying attention.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: macdanger2 on February 26, 2018, 08:14:25 PM
Question for the Kildare lads - is Newbridge standing only? Have only been there once and was standing but not sure if there's seats on the far side. Will be bringing my 3 year old if the weather is okay but she'd hardly stand for the whole thing. Also, what kind of home crowd would be expected?
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on February 26, 2018, 08:32:48 PM
Question for the Kildare lads - is Newbridge standing only? Have only been there once and was standing but not sure if there's seats on the far side. Will be bringing my 3 year old if the weather is okay but she'd hardly stand for the whole thing. Also, what kind of home crowd would be expected?

There are about 150-200 roughly seats in the middle of the stand but you would want to be there very early to get there. They are not that comfortable either. There will be a small home crowd but Mayo have the best support in the country so I'd expect around the 6000 mark which would be decent for Newbridge. Weather permitting of course, there will be no issues with the playing surface but if it is not safe for people to travel the game won't go ahead.
We have upped our game in hospitality too with decent coffee and fast food available at 3 corners of the ground and a pipe band providing a welcome alternative to the rubbish pop music that some more modern stadiums like to deafen you with.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: macdanger2 on February 26, 2018, 09:20:52 PM
Question for the Kildare lads - is Newbridge standing only? Have only been there once and was standing but not sure if there's seats on the far side. Will be bringing my 3 year old if the weather is okay but she'd hardly stand for the whole thing. Also, what kind of home crowd would be expected?

There are about 150-200 roughly seats in the middle of the stand but you would want to be there very early to get there. They are not that comfortable either. There will be a small home crowd but Mayo have the best support in the country so I'd expect around the 6000 mark which would be decent for Newbridge. Weather permitting of course, there will be no issues with the playing surface but if it is not safe for people to travel the game won't go ahead.
We have upped our game in hospitality too with decent coffee and fast food available at 3 corners of the ground and a pipe band providing a welcome alternative to the rubbish pop music that some more modern stadiums like to deafen you with.

Good man, thanks
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: MayoBuck on February 26, 2018, 10:00:57 PM
Question for the Kildare lads - is Newbridge standing only? Have only been there once and was standing but not sure if there's seats on the far side. Will be bringing my 3 year old if the weather is okay but she'd hardly stand for the whole thing. Also, what kind of home crowd would be expected?

There are about 150-200 roughly seats in the middle of the stand but you would want to be there very early to get there. They are not that comfortable either. There will be a small home crowd but Mayo have the best support in the country so I'd expect around the 6000 mark which would be decent for Newbridge. Weather permitting of course, there will be no issues with the playing surface but if it is not safe for people to travel the game won't go ahead.
We have upped our game in hospitality too with decent coffee and fast food available at 3 corners of the ground and a pipe band providing a welcome alternative to the rubbish pop music that some more modern stadiums like to deafen you with.

Where's the best place to park near the stadium? I'll be coming from the Dublin side.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Main Street on February 26, 2018, 10:26:37 PM
Question for the Kildare lads - is Newbridge standing only? Have only been there once and was standing but not sure if there's seats on the far side. Will be bringing my 3 year old if the weather is okay but she'd hardly stand for the whole thing. Also, what kind of home crowd would be expected?

There are about 150-200 roughly seats in the middle of the stand but you would want to be there very early to get there. They are not that comfortable either. There will be a small home crowd but Mayo have the best support in the country so I'd expect around the 6000 mark which would be decent for Newbridge. Weather permitting of course, there will be no issues with the playing surface but if it is not safe for people to travel the game won't go ahead.
We have upped our game in hospitality too with decent coffee and fast food available at 3 corners of the ground and a pipe band providing a welcome alternative to the rubbish pop music that some more modern stadiums like to deafen you with.
I guess The Parting Glass in D minor would be a fitting tune at half time.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on February 26, 2018, 10:39:48 PM
Question for the Kildare lads - is Newbridge standing only? Have only been there once and was standing but not sure if there's seats on the far side. Will be bringing my 3 year old if the weather is okay but she'd hardly stand for the whole thing. Also, what kind of home crowd would be expected?

There are about 150-200 roughly seats in the middle of the stand but you would want to be there very early to get there. They are not that comfortable either. There will be a small home crowd but Mayo have the best support in the country so I'd expect around the 6000 mark which would be decent for Newbridge. Weather permitting of course, there will be no issues with the playing surface but if it is not safe for people to travel the game won't go ahead.
We have upped our game in hospitality too with decent coffee and fast food available at 3 corners of the ground and a pipe band providing a welcome alternative to the rubbish pop music that some more modern stadiums like to deafen you with.

Where's the best place to park near the stadium? I'll be coming from the Dublin side.

I don't use it myself but the Whitewater shopping centre multi story is a reliable enough spot to park. It might take a few minutes to get out after but not bad.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Rossfan on February 26, 2018, 11:19:44 PM
Question for the Kildare lads - is Newbridge standing only? Have only been there once and was standing but not sure if there's seats on the far side. Will be bringing my 3 year old if the weather is okay but she'd hardly stand for the whole thing. Also, what kind of home crowd would be expected?

There are about 150-200 roughly seats in the middle of the stand but you would want to be there very early to get there. They are not that comfortable either.
Jasus that's primitive for the second richest County in the Country.
Wicklow, Kildare, Louth and Meath the 4 worst County grounds and they having a population of around 750K between them, and the 2nd highest incomes after Dublin..
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on February 27, 2018, 12:06:03 AM

Jasus that's primitive for the second richest County in the Country.
Wicklow, Kildare, Louth and Meath the 4 worst County grounds and they having a population of around 750K between them, and the 2nd highest incomes after Dublin..

I might be going off topic but was just looking at the results of the local minor league here and to be honest was a little shocked at the lack of teams competing compared to my minor days which were still this century. Loads of amalgamations and not many second teams from the big clubs. It is the same at adult level, 10 to 15 years ago most intermediate level clubs would field 3 teams no bother, these days it is a struggle for plenty to get a second team out.
That coupled with the shocking drop in attendances would indicate football is in a serious decline in a county with one of the biggest young populations in the country.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Farrandeelin on February 27, 2018, 10:18:54 AM
Any games likely to be affected with whatever snowfall we may have later in the week?
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Maroon Manc on February 27, 2018, 10:51:31 AM
Strange the difference in reaction to Galway from different pundits. Parkinson has slated Galway since the beginning of the league  and gives them no hope for the summer whilst Tomas O'Se & Ciaran Whelan were very impressed with Galway. I suppose its only natural we hear the comparisons with Roscommon from 2 years ago as its fresh in people's mind; Mayo made a league final in 2012 and it didn't do them any harm later on in the year. I can understand Parkinsons reservations about the systems but he's completeley ignored that there's an influx of some good new talent and that the likes of Comer, Walsh & Brannigan look like they've stepped up a level too. If he wanted to be critical he wouldn't have too look too much further than the kick out strategy or lack of one.

Its only 10 weeks this Sunday to the Mayo game and only 6 weeks from the last round of league fixtures so preparations for both counties will have to be different from last year, Mayo didn't hit form until the 1st weekend in August last year, super 8's final game is that same weekend this year.

Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Captain Obvious on February 27, 2018, 01:09:50 PM
Strange the difference in reaction to Galway from different pundits. Parkinson has slated Galway since the beginning of the league  and gives them no hope for the summer whilst Tomas O'Se & Ciaran Whelan were very impressed with Galway. I suppose its only natural we hear the comparisons with Roscommon from 2 years ago as its fresh in people's mind; Mayo made a league final in 2012 and it didn't do them any harm later on in the year. I can understand Parkinsons reservations about the systems but he's completeley ignored that there's an influx of some good new talent and that the likes of Comer, Walsh & Brannigan look like they've stepped up a level too. If he wanted to be critical he wouldn't have too look too much further than the kick out strategy or lack of one.

Its only 10 weeks this Sunday to the Mayo game and only 6 weeks from the last round of league fixtures so preparations for both counties will have to be different from last year, Mayo didn't hit form until the 1st weekend in August last year, super 8's final game is that same weekend this year.

Mayo only finished 4th in the table on 7 points in 2012 and the nonsense of semi finals in a group of 8 allowed them to reach the league final. Last time Galway won their first 4 Div 1 NFL games was 2009, that summer Galway ended up losing to Mayo and failed to reach the last eight of the championship could history repeat itself this summer?
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Maroon Manc on February 27, 2018, 02:25:54 PM
Strange the difference in reaction to Galway from different pundits. Parkinson has slated Galway since the beginning of the league  and gives them no hope for the summer whilst Tomas O'Se & Ciaran Whelan were very impressed with Galway. I suppose its only natural we hear the comparisons with Roscommon from 2 years ago as its fresh in people's mind; Mayo made a league final in 2012 and it didn't do them any harm later on in the year. I can understand Parkinsons reservations about the systems but he's completeley ignored that there's an influx of some good new talent and that the likes of Comer, Walsh & Brannigan look like they've stepped up a level too. If he wanted to be critical he wouldn't have too look too much further than the kick out strategy or lack of one.

Its only 10 weeks this Sunday to the Mayo game and only 6 weeks from the last round of league fixtures so preparations for both counties will have to be different from last year, Mayo didn't hit form until the 1st weekend in August last year, super 8's final game is that same weekend this year.

Mayo only finished 4th in the table on 7 points in 2012 and the nonsense of semi finals in a group of 8 allowed them to reach the league final. Last time Galway won their first 4 Div 1 NFL games was 2009, that summer Galway ended up losing to Mayo and failed to reach the last eight of the championship could history repeat itself this summer?

Galway may as well finish up for the season now with that damming evidence.

Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: seafoid on February 27, 2018, 02:29:11 PM
Sher it's only the league
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Captain Obvious on February 27, 2018, 03:14:05 PM
Strange the difference in reaction to Galway from different pundits. Parkinson has slated Galway since the beginning of the league  and gives them no hope for the summer whilst Tomas O'Se & Ciaran Whelan were very impressed with Galway. I suppose its only natural we hear the comparisons with Roscommon from 2 years ago as its fresh in people's mind; Mayo made a league final in 2012 and it didn't do them any harm later on in the year. I can understand Parkinsons reservations about the systems but he's completeley ignored that there's an influx of some good new talent and that the likes of Comer, Walsh & Brannigan look like they've stepped up a level too. If he wanted to be critical he wouldn't have too look too much further than the kick out strategy or lack of one.

Its only 10 weeks this Sunday to the Mayo game and only 6 weeks from the last round of league fixtures so preparations for both counties will have to be different from last year, Mayo didn't hit form until the 1st weekend in August last year, super 8's final game is that same weekend this year.

Mayo only finished 4th in the table on 7 points in 2012 and the nonsense of semi finals in a group of 8 allowed them to reach the league final. Last time Galway won their first 4 Div 1 NFL games was 2009, that summer Galway ended up losing to Mayo and failed to reach the last eight of the championship could history repeat itself this summer?

Galway may as well finish up for the season now with that damming evidence.
Or they won't repeat 2009 and you can just believe on the evidence of 4 league games that Galway are back to their best and will be All Ireland contenders this summer.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Maroon Manc on February 27, 2018, 03:35:05 PM
Strange the difference in reaction to Galway from different pundits. Parkinson has slated Galway since the beginning of the league  and gives them no hope for the summer whilst Tomas O'Se & Ciaran Whelan were very impressed with Galway. I suppose its only natural we hear the comparisons with Roscommon from 2 years ago as its fresh in people's mind; Mayo made a league final in 2012 and it didn't do them any harm later on in the year. I can understand Parkinsons reservations about the systems but he's completeley ignored that there's an influx of some good new talent and that the likes of Comer, Walsh & Brannigan look like they've stepped up a level too. If he wanted to be critical he wouldn't have too look too much further than the kick out strategy or lack of one.

Its only 10 weeks this Sunday to the Mayo game and only 6 weeks from the last round of league fixtures so preparations for both counties will have to be different from last year, Mayo didn't hit form until the 1st weekend in August last year, super 8's final game is that same weekend this year.

Mayo only finished 4th in the table on 7 points in 2012 and the nonsense of semi finals in a group of 8 allowed them to reach the league final. Last time Galway won their first 4 Div 1 NFL games was 2009, that summer Galway ended up losing to Mayo and failed to reach the last eight of the championship could history repeat itself this summer?

Galway may as well finish up for the season now with that damming evidence.
Or they won't repeat 2009 and you can just believe on the evidence of 4 league games that Galway are back to their best and will be All Ireland contenders this summer.

There isn't a poster on here from Galway who's suggested they are All Ireland contenders. Staying in Div 1 and qualifying for an AI semi is the height of expectations and even then making the super 8's and giving a good account of themselves would satisfy most.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: An Fhairche Abu on February 27, 2018, 03:38:39 PM
Strange the difference in reaction to Galway from different pundits. Parkinson has slated Galway since the beginning of the league  and gives them no hope for the summer whilst Tomas O'Se & Ciaran Whelan were very impressed with Galway. I suppose its only natural we hear the comparisons with Roscommon from 2 years ago as its fresh in people's mind; Mayo made a league final in 2012 and it didn't do them any harm later on in the year. I can understand Parkinsons reservations about the systems but he's completeley ignored that there's an influx of some good new talent and that the likes of Comer, Walsh & Brannigan look like they've stepped up a level too. If he wanted to be critical he wouldn't have too look too much further than the kick out strategy or lack of one.

Its only 10 weeks this Sunday to the Mayo game and only 6 weeks from the last round of league fixtures so preparations for both counties will have to be different from last year, Mayo didn't hit form until the 1st weekend in August last year, super 8's final game is that same weekend this year.

Mayo only finished 4th in the table on 7 points in 2012 and the nonsense of semi finals in a group of 8 allowed them to reach the league final. Last time Galway won their first 4 Div 1 NFL games was 2009, that summer Galway ended up losing to Mayo and failed to reach the last eight of the championship could history repeat itself this summer?

Galway may as well finish up for the season now with that damming evidence.
Or they won't repeat 2009 and you can just believe on the evidence of 4 league games that Galway are back to their best and will be All Ireland contenders this summer.

It's almost like we'll just have to see how the entire year pans out first before making any definitive judgement on the Galway footballers 2018 edition, who'd thunk it!?!?!
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: GrandMasterFlash on February 27, 2018, 03:41:32 PM
Strange the difference in reaction to Galway from different pundits. Parkinson has slated Galway since the beginning of the league  and gives them no hope for the summer whilst Tomas O'Se & Ciaran Whelan were very impressed with Galway. I suppose its only natural we hear the comparisons with Roscommon from 2 years ago as its fresh in people's mind; Mayo made a league final in 2012 and it didn't do them any harm later on in the year. I can understand Parkinsons reservations about the systems but he's completeley ignored that there's an influx of some good new talent and that the likes of Comer, Walsh & Brannigan look like they've stepped up a level too. If he wanted to be critical he wouldn't have too look too much further than the kick out strategy or lack of one.

Its only 10 weeks this Sunday to the Mayo game and only 6 weeks from the last round of league fixtures so preparations for both counties will have to be different from last year, Mayo didn't hit form until the 1st weekend in August last year, super 8's final game is that same weekend this year.

Mayo only finished 4th in the table on 7 points in 2012 and the nonsense of semi finals in a group of 8 allowed them to reach the league final. Last time Galway won their first 4 Div 1 NFL games was 2009, that summer Galway ended up losing to Mayo and failed to reach the last eight of the championship could history repeat itself this summer?

Galway may as well finish up for the season now with that damming evidence.
Or they won't repeat 2009 and you can just believe on the evidence of 4 league games that Galway are back to their best and will be All Ireland contenders this summer.

It's almost like we'll just have to see how the entire year pans out first before making any definitive judgement on the Galway footballers 2018 edition, who'd thunk it!?!?!

Flippant or not, you are correct in your judgement, as history has shown many times that nothing is won in April.. (which is when the league final is scheduled for  ;))
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: seafoid on February 27, 2018, 03:50:42 PM
Strange the difference in reaction to Galway from different pundits. Parkinson has slated Galway since the beginning of the league  and gives them no hope for the summer whilst Tomas O'Se & Ciaran Whelan were very impressed with Galway. I suppose its only natural we hear the comparisons with Roscommon from 2 years ago as its fresh in people's mind; Mayo made a league final in 2012 and it didn't do them any harm later on in the year. I can understand Parkinsons reservations about the systems but he's completeley ignored that there's an influx of some good new talent and that the likes of Comer, Walsh & Brannigan look like they've stepped up a level too. If he wanted to be critical he wouldn't have too look too much further than the kick out strategy or lack of one.

Its only 10 weeks this Sunday to the Mayo game and only 6 weeks from the last round of league fixtures so preparations for both counties will have to be different from last year, Mayo didn't hit form until the 1st weekend in August last year, super 8's final game is that same weekend this year.

Mayo only finished 4th in the table on 7 points in 2012 and the nonsense of semi finals in a group of 8 allowed them to reach the league final. Last time Galway won their first 4 Div 1 NFL games was 2009, that summer Galway ended up losing to Mayo and failed to reach the last eight of the championship could history repeat itself this summer?

Galway may as well finish up for the season now with that damming evidence.
Or they won't repeat 2009 and you can just believe on the evidence of 4 league games that Galway are back to their best and will be All Ireland contenders this summer.

It's almost like we'll just have to see how the entire year pans out first before making any definitive judgement on the Galway footballers 2018 edition, who'd thunk it!?!?!
It might be worth putting a fiver on the double in 2020
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Captain Obvious on February 27, 2018, 04:10:10 PM
Strange the difference in reaction to Galway from different pundits. Parkinson has slated Galway since the beginning of the league  and gives them no hope for the summer whilst Tomas O'Se & Ciaran Whelan were very impressed with Galway. I suppose its only natural we hear the comparisons with Roscommon from 2 years ago as its fresh in people's mind; Mayo made a league final in 2012 and it didn't do them any harm later on in the year. I can understand Parkinsons reservations about the systems but he's completeley ignored that there's an influx of some good new talent and that the likes of Comer, Walsh & Brannigan look like they've stepped up a level too. If he wanted to be critical he wouldn't have too look too much further than the kick out strategy or lack of one.

Its only 10 weeks this Sunday to the Mayo game and only 6 weeks from the last round of league fixtures so preparations for both counties will have to be different from last year, Mayo didn't hit form until the 1st weekend in August last year, super 8's final game is that same weekend this year.

Mayo only finished 4th in the table on 7 points in 2012 and the nonsense of semi finals in a group of 8 allowed them to reach the league final. Last time Galway won their first 4 Div 1 NFL games was 2009, that summer Galway ended up losing to Mayo and failed to reach the last eight of the championship could history repeat itself this summer?

Galway may as well finish up for the season now with that damming evidence.
Or they won't repeat 2009 and you can just believe on the evidence of 4 league games that Galway are back to their best and will be All Ireland contenders this summer.

It's almost like we'll just have to see how the entire year pans out first before making any definitive judgement on the Galway footballers 2018 edition, who'd thunk it!?!?!
Absolutely. Right now Galway shouldn't be paying much attention to what any pundits in the national media says as even the ones that are building them up will probably be the first to strongly criticize them if things turn for the worst.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: An Fhairche Abu on February 27, 2018, 06:11:40 PM
Strange the difference in reaction to Galway from different pundits. Parkinson has slated Galway since the beginning of the league  and gives them no hope for the summer whilst Tomas O'Se & Ciaran Whelan were very impressed with Galway. I suppose its only natural we hear the comparisons with Roscommon from 2 years ago as its fresh in people's mind; Mayo made a league final in 2012 and it didn't do them any harm later on in the year. I can understand Parkinsons reservations about the systems but he's completeley ignored that there's an influx of some good new talent and that the likes of Comer, Walsh & Brannigan look like they've stepped up a level too. If he wanted to be critical he wouldn't have too look too much further than the kick out strategy or lack of one.

For pundits it is very hard to have in depth knowledge of every team but again a lot of the time they just don't have the familiarity outside of their own county and Dublin/Mayo/Kerry. Some pundits will just look at the results at this time of year and make the judgement according to that without any reference to the performance, particularly down the divisions.
To be fair to Parkinson he is not doing that in the example about and I personally enjoy the GAA hour usually. I have issues with Galway at the moment looking towards the summer myself but not for the same reasons as Parkinson at all. If Colm wanted to do some better analysis of Galway’s likely problem for the summer he needs to look at the frankly very worrying kick out issues on both our own and the oppositions restarts and I put no blame on Lavelle for this either.
It’s no coincidence at all that when Conroy and whoever is in midfield with him have been well held without any impact in championship games that we’ve got creased. Galway do not have a Paul Galvin-esque player around to hoover up the breaks either, I’ve been at or seen every league game in full and the only one where Galway have come out on top around the middle was the Tyrone match. The scoring conversion rate has been generally very good apart from the goal chance misses against Kerry on Sunday but if that drops to an average/below average level and they still have less possession than the opposition? Not a recipe for success.

Absolutely. Right now Galway shouldn't be paying much attention to what any pundits in the national media says as even the ones that are building them up will probably be the first to strongly criticize them if things turn for the worst.
If they’ve any cop they won’t pay any attention anyway. The long and the short of it is that Galway have no real championship pedigree lately and if the team goes out as tamely as last year later on in the summer then they will be slaughtered by both pundit and supporter alike.
Division One status is assured so the other aim is to make the Super 8’s and perform to a reasonable level when in it, whether that is by the front or back door is irrelevant compared to Mayo’s position. I’ve said it here before but I think Mayo simply have to go via the front door this year to lessen the amount of games their first 15 have to play and every match week in Division one just confirms that viewpoint for me, I think they will be more than ready to go this year and it will take a mammoth effort from Galway to beat them on May 13th.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: mouview on February 27, 2018, 10:00:13 PM

Flippant or not, you are correct in your judgement, as history has shown many times that nothing is won in April.. (which is when the league final is scheduled for  ;))

Recent history has shown that the 2017 hurling league winners used it as a springboard for a very successful championship run. ;)  ;)
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Maroon Manc on February 28, 2018, 10:56:08 AM
Strange the difference in reaction to Galway from different pundits. Parkinson has slated Galway since the beginning of the league  and gives them no hope for the summer whilst Tomas O'Se & Ciaran Whelan were very impressed with Galway. I suppose its only natural we hear the comparisons with Roscommon from 2 years ago as its fresh in people's mind; Mayo made a league final in 2012 and it didn't do them any harm later on in the year. I can understand Parkinsons reservations about the systems but he's completeley ignored that there's an influx of some good new talent and that the likes of Comer, Walsh & Brannigan look like they've stepped up a level too. If he wanted to be critical he wouldn't have too look too much further than the kick out strategy or lack of one.

For pundits it is very hard to have in depth knowledge of every team but again a lot of the time they just don't have the familiarity outside of their own county and Dublin/Mayo/Kerry. Some pundits will just look at the results at this time of year and make the judgement according to that without any reference to the performance, particularly down the divisions.
To be fair to Parkinson he is not doing that in the example about and I personally enjoy the GAA hour usually. I have issues with Galway at the moment looking towards the summer myself but not for the same reasons as Parkinson at all. If Colm wanted to do some better analysis of Galway’s likely problem for the summer he needs to look at the frankly very worrying kick out issues on both our own and the oppositions restarts and I put no blame on Lavelle for this either.
It’s no coincidence at all that when Conroy and whoever is in midfield with him have been well held without any impact in championship games that we’ve got creased. Galway do not have a Paul Galvin-esque player around to hoover up the breaks either, I’ve been at or seen every league game in full and the only one where Galway have come out on top around the middle was the Tyrone match. The scoring conversion rate has been generally very good apart from the goal chance misses against Kerry on Sunday but if that drops to an average/below average level and they still have less possession than the opposition? Not a recipe for success.

Absolutely. Right now Galway shouldn't be paying much attention to what any pundits in the national media says as even the ones that are building them up will probably be the first to strongly criticize them if things turn for the worst.
If they’ve any cop they won’t pay any attention anyway. The long and the short of it is that Galway have no real championship pedigree lately and if the team goes out as tamely as last year later on in the summer then they will be slaughtered by both pundit and supporter alike.
Division One status is assured so the other aim is to make the Super 8’s and perform to a reasonable level when in it, whether that is by the front or back door is irrelevant compared to Mayo’s position. I’ve said it here before but I think Mayo simply have to go via the front door this year to lessen the amount of games their first 15 have to play and every match week in Division one just confirms that viewpoint for me, I think they will be more than ready to go this year and it will take a mammoth effort from Galway to beat them on May 13th.

I've only been over to the Mayo game and seeing it on the TV doesn't show you everything. I think we've all documented how poor Galway have been on their own kickouts in the 3 championship defeats in the last 2 years and until it improves this team won't be contenders. Its farcial at this stage that we're still commenting on it.

The management team will obviously be aware of the issue and I'd like to think that serious work will go into this in the 6 weeks between the end of the league and the championship, there's not enough movement and when there is Lavelle is very hesitant. I can recall Bradshaw had found in himself in enough space twice to receive the ball against Mayo but Lavelle wasn't confident enough to execute the kick and went long instead. Conroy isn't good enough in the air to compete against better fielders whilst Cooke is a work in progress. We just don't win enough breaking ball, reckon the stats would show they'd only win at most 40% during the league so far. I'd like to think the addition of Daly should help around the middle, Sean Kelly is just too lightweight but I'm sure thats something he's working hard on. I do think Power is a superior kicker of the ball but missing the whole league campaign is clearly a huge disadvantage.

There is a 3 week gap to the first round of the qualifiers so if Galway lose to Mayo its not the end of the world, they've enough time to recover and get their heads right.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: seafoid on February 28, 2018, 12:19:15 PM
Strange the difference in reaction to Galway from different pundits. Parkinson has slated Galway since the beginning of the league  and gives them no hope for the summer whilst Tomas O'Se & Ciaran Whelan were very impressed with Galway. I suppose its only natural we hear the comparisons with Roscommon from 2 years ago as its fresh in people's mind; Mayo made a league final in 2012 and it didn't do them any harm later on in the year. I can understand Parkinsons reservations about the systems but he's completeley ignored that there's an influx of some good new talent and that the likes of Comer, Walsh & Brannigan look like they've stepped up a level too. If he wanted to be critical he wouldn't have too look too much further than the kick out strategy or lack of one.

For pundits it is very hard to have in depth knowledge of every team but again a lot of the time they just don't have the familiarity outside of their own county and Dublin/Mayo/Kerry. Some pundits will just look at the results at this time of year and make the judgement according to that without any reference to the performance, particularly down the divisions.
To be fair to Parkinson he is not doing that in the example about and I personally enjoy the GAA hour usually. I have issues with Galway at the moment looking towards the summer myself but not for the same reasons as Parkinson at all. If Colm wanted to do some better analysis of Galway’s likely problem for the summer he needs to look at the frankly very worrying kick out issues on both our own and the oppositions restarts and I put no blame on Lavelle for this either.
It’s no coincidence at all that when Conroy and whoever is in midfield with him have been well held without any impact in championship games that we’ve got creased. Galway do not have a Paul Galvin-esque player around to hoover up the breaks either, I’ve been at or seen every league game in full and the only one where Galway have come out on top around the middle was the Tyrone match. The scoring conversion rate has been generally very good apart from the goal chance misses against Kerry on Sunday but if that drops to an average/below average level and they still have less possession than the opposition? Not a recipe for success.

Absolutely. Right now Galway shouldn't be paying much attention to what any pundits in the national media says as even the ones that are building them up will probably be the first to strongly criticize them if things turn for the worst.
If they’ve any cop they won’t pay any attention anyway. The long and the short of it is that Galway have no real championship pedigree lately and if the team goes out as tamely as last year later on in the summer then they will be slaughtered by both pundit and supporter alike.
Division One status is assured so the other aim is to make the Super 8’s and perform to a reasonable level when in it, whether that is by the front or back door is irrelevant compared to Mayo’s position. I’ve said it here before but I think Mayo simply have to go via the front door this year to lessen the amount of games their first 15 have to play and every match week in Division one just confirms that viewpoint for me, I think they will be more than ready to go this year and it will take a mammoth effort from Galway to beat them on May 13th.

I've only been over to the Mayo game and seeing it on the TV doesn't show you everything. I think we've all documented how poor Galway have been on their own kickouts in the 3 championship defeats in the last 2 years and until it improves this team won't be contenders. Its farcial at this stage that we're still commenting on it.

The management team will obviously be aware of the issue and I'd like to think that serious work will go into this in the 6 weeks between the end of the league and the championship, there's not enough movement and when there is Lavelle is very hesitant. I can recall Bradshaw had found in himself in enough space twice to receive the ball against Mayo but Lavelle wasn't confident enough to execute the kick and went long instead. Conroy isn't good enough in the air to compete against better fielders whilst Cooke is a work in progress. We just don't win enough breaking ball, reckon the stats would show they'd only win at most 40% during the league so far. I'd like to think the addition of Daly should help around the middle, Sean Kelly is just too lightweight but I'm sure thats something he's working hard on. I do think Power is a superior kicker of the ball but missing the whole league campaign is clearly a huge disadvantage.

There is a 3 week gap to the first round of the qualifiers so if Galway lose to Mayo its not the end of the world, they've enough time to recover and get their heads right.
tightening up the backs was probably deemed more urgent. I'm sure the kickouts will be a priority for the championship. They seem to be thinking strategically which is encouraging. Paddy Tally has made a big difference.
With all the injuries and the Corofin absences the league to date has been a pleasant surprise.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: seafoid on February 28, 2018, 02:58:26 PM
There was a League podcast on the Indo and Kildare came up. The results have been consistent enough- several one point losses but they lost all 4 matches. Tomas O se was wondering if there was something psychological holding them back. They are not a bad team.

https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/the-throwin-kerry-need-to-wise-up-galways-new-system-and-why-dublin-hurling-wont-be-built-in-a-day-36644721.html
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Main Street on March 01, 2018, 12:41:20 AM
It looks pretty bad for Tyrone when Monaghan don't even get a mention in that podcast for beating them. As if to say Tyrone were not worth it,  that beating them wasn't even worth mentioning.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: stew on March 01, 2018, 02:45:22 AM
It looks pretty bad for Tyrone when Monaghan don't even get a mention in that podcast for beating them. As if to say Tyrone were not worth it,  that beating them wasn't even worth mentioning.

I hate the feckers but they are worth beating as they are quality and it is very much worth mentioning if you do! I would say the slight has not been missed by Mr harte and co.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: seafoid on March 01, 2018, 06:27:58 AM
It looks pretty bad for Tyrone when Monaghan don't even get a mention in that podcast for beating them. As if to say Tyrone were not worth it,  that beating them wasn't even worth mentioning.

I hate the feckers but they are worth beating as they are quality and it is very much worth mentioning if you do! I would say the slight has not been missed by Mr harte and co.
If you go back to the start of this discussion most people were expecting Tyrone to do well in the league. They would have been expected to have 6 points at this stage and be in contention for the final.
It has been a very bad league so far for Tyrone.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: cornetto on March 01, 2018, 11:43:27 AM
A little off topic but reading Ciaran Whelans piece about mayo going on a training camp 11th April,he says the fact they are not releasing players it will mean forfeiting a home league match in 2019.So I'm just wondering if kevin walsh releases his players back to the clubs,does this mean he only has 2wks to prepare for mayo on may 13th?
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: From the Bunker on March 01, 2018, 12:29:26 PM
A little off topic but reading Ciaran Whelans piece about mayo going on a training camp 11th April,he says the fact they are not releasing players it will mean forfeiting a home league match in 2019.So I'm just wondering if kevin walsh releases his players back to the clubs,does this mean he only has 2wks to prepare for mayo on may 13th?

Stroke of Genius - Our record in McHale Park is so bad this is far from a punishment!  ;D
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Cunny Funt on March 01, 2018, 12:46:50 PM
No football this weekend http://www.gaa.ie/news/all-allianz-football-and-hurling-league-matches-postponed/
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Duine Eile on March 01, 2018, 02:35:54 PM
A little off topic but reading Ciaran Whelans piece about mayo going on a training camp 11th April,he says the fact they are not releasing players it will mean forfeiting a home league match in 2019.So I'm just wondering if kevin walsh releases his players back to the clubs,does this mean he only has 2wks to prepare for mayo on may 13th?

Or maybe Kevin is playing it a bit cuter and not announcing his training plans for April? First round of the Galway championship isn't scheduled until the weekend after the Mayo match, 2 rounds of the league possible in April which county players might play in but can't see them being sent back to train with them for the whole month. Pity the games are off this weekend, to be expected though. Hopefully the double header will still go ahead whenever they're rescheduled for. 
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: larryin89 on March 01, 2018, 06:27:13 PM
Rochford didn't announce it . The obsessive (with all things Mayo)  Dublin ex players media mafia did.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Farrandeelin on March 01, 2018, 06:54:12 PM
I'm quite happy the games are off this weekend. Hopefully the injuries will have healed further. Cillian also gets another week off.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Syferus on March 01, 2018, 06:59:44 PM
Rochford didn't announce it . The obsessive (with all things Mayo)  Dublin ex players media mafia did.

https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/sport/mayo-plan-to-break-new-gaa-rule-to-keep-april-a-club-only-month-817224.html

Their source was that bastion of the Dublin media, the Western People..

Christ, you don’t help yourself.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: larryin89 on March 02, 2018, 12:33:58 AM
Rochford didn't announce it . The obsessive (with all things Mayo)  Dublin ex players media mafia did.

https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/sport/mayo-plan-to-break-new-gaa-rule-to-keep-april-a-club-only-month-817224.html

Their source was that bastion of the Dublin media, the Western People..

Christ, you don’t help yourself.

Apart from the fact we were  talking about whelans article, can you show me a.quote anyway from rochford .
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: dublin7 on March 02, 2018, 09:45:05 AM
Rochford didn't announce it . The obsessive (with all things Mayo)  Dublin ex players media mafia did.

https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/sport/mayo-plan-to-break-new-gaa-rule-to-keep-april-a-club-only-month-817224.html

Their source was that bastion of the Dublin media, the Western People..

Christ, you don’t help yourself.

Apart from the fact we were  talking about whelans article, can you show me a.quote anyway from rochford .

If you bothered to read the article you'd see a quote from the vice-chairman of the Mayo Co. Board, but don't let that get in the way of your belief it the dubs in the media bashing Mayo again
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: larryin89 on March 02, 2018, 11:04:42 AM
Yes , and still no actual quote from Stephen Rochford. And ffs I was originally talking about whelans article talking to the nation but im sure he gets his western people every week from Easons.  Hes a bollix and anyone that falls for his shit is naive . I suppose he did nothing to orchestrate a snide campaign against lee keegan in the lead up to 16 replay. Nah just a passing observation from a neutral I suppose.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: From the Bunker on March 02, 2018, 11:41:48 AM
Yes , and still no actual quote from Stephen Rochford. And ffs I was originally talking about whelans article talking to the nation but im sure he gets his western people every week from Easons.  Hes a bollix and anyone that falls for his shit is naive . I suppose he did nothing to orchestrate a snide campaign against lee keegan in the lead up to 16 replay. Nah just a passing observation from a neutral I suppose.

Whelan will naturally serve his county. Just like the 3 O'se, Gooch, Liston, Spillane, will naturally spin the agenda to suit Kerry. We are just jealous because all we have in the national media to spin a tale is David Brady and the half cast Martin Carney (who i doubt even walks on pavement cracks).

Unlike most other counties Mayo and Galway have one of their biggest games in early May! It is up to Roachford and Co to have the lads prepared for that game if it means stepping on toes so be it!
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: larryin89 on March 02, 2018, 02:46:37 PM
Fair enough but surely its not healthy to have such an obvious bad natured campaign against a player through media like what happened keegan  two years ago,I dunno but I think it crossed the line .its one thing to be playing down your counties chances with a bit of beal bocht but to me that seemed extreme . 

James Horan is in national spotlight too but for a smart guy he seems to go the other end of the scale altogether , absolutely mocked Galway in the run up to last couple of championship clashes .we know how they ended
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Syferus on March 02, 2018, 03:06:38 PM
Yes , and still no actual quote from Stephen Rochford. And ffs I was originally talking about whelans article talking to the nation but im sure he gets his western people every week from Easons.  Hes a bollix and anyone that falls for his shit is naive . I suppose he did nothing to orchestrate a snide campaign against lee keegan in the lead up to 16 replay. Nah just a passing observation from a neutral I suppose.

Whelan will naturally serve his county. Just like the 3 O'se, Gooch, Liston, Spillane, will naturally spin the agenda to suit Kerry. We are just jealous because all we have in the national media to spin a tale is David Brady and the half cast Martin Carney (who i doubt even walks on pavement cracks).

Unlike most other counties Mayo and Galway have one of their biggest games in early May! It is up to Roachford and Co to have the lads prepared for that game if it means stepping on toes so be it!

Martin is still in intensive care after Andy got booed in the AI quarter-final.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: dublin7 on March 02, 2018, 05:53:58 PM
Fair enough but surely its not healthy to have such an obvious bad natured campaign against a player through media like what happened keegan  two years ago,I dunno but I think it crossed the line .its one thing to be playing down your counties chances with a bit of beal bocht but to me that seemed extreme . 

James Horan is in national spotlight too but for a smart guy he seems to go the other end of the scale altogether , absolutely mocked Galway in the run up to last couple of championship clashes .we know how they ended

Horgan had right go at Johnny Cooper on Eir a few weeks ago. Hmmm what's that pot, kettle, blaack
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: macdanger2 on March 03, 2018, 01:17:46 AM

Unlike most other counties Mayo and Galway have one of their biggest games in early May! It is up to Roachford and Co to have the lads prepared for that game if it means stepping on toes so be it!

Tbf, this is an annual occurrence for the ulster boys
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Syferus on March 03, 2018, 02:32:37 AM

Unlike most other counties Mayo and Galway have one of their biggest games in early May! It is up to Roachford and Co to have the lads prepared for that game if it means stepping on toes so be it!

Tbf, this is an annual occurrence for the ulster boys

The one in Connacht actually effects the course of the overall season unlike those Ulster games, though. One top ten team will be faced with an almost impossible hole to dig themselves out (the Super 8 will only make the grind of making the AISF via the backdoor far more attritional) of while the other will be in the last 12 of the country.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: criostlinn on March 03, 2018, 07:01:35 AM
Fair enough but surely its not healthy to have such an obvious bad natured campaign against a player through media like what happened keegan  two years ago,I dunno but I think it crossed the line .its one thing to be playing down your counties chances with a bit of beal bocht but to me that seemed extreme . 

James Horan is in national spotlight too but for a smart guy he seems to go the other end of the scale altogether , absolutely mocked Galway in the run up to last couple of championship clashes .we know how they ended

Horgan had right go at Johnny Cooper on Eir a few weeks ago. Hmmm what's that pot, kettle, blaack

What he say about him
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Rossfan on March 03, 2018, 10:28:50 AM

Unlike most other counties Mayo and Galway have one of their biggest games in early May! It is up to Roachford and Co to have the lads prepared for that game if it means stepping on toes so be it!

Tbf, this is an annual occurrence for the ulster boys

The one in Connacht actually effects the course of the overall season unlike those Ulster games, though. One top ten team will be faced with an almost impossible hole to dig themselves out (the Super 8 will only make the grind of making the AISF via the backdoor far more attritional) of while the other will be in the last 12 of the country.
And meanwhile we only have to bate Laythrum/NY to make the last 12.
Great to win the lotto 2 years in a row ;D
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Gael85 on March 03, 2018, 11:17:31 AM
Fair enough but surely its not healthy to have such an obvious bad natured campaign against a player through media like what happened keegan  two years ago,I dunno but I think it crossed the line .its one thing to be playing down your counties chances with a bit of beal bocht but to me that seemed extreme . 

James Horan is in national spotlight too but for a smart guy he seems to go the other end of the scale altogether , absolutely mocked Galway in the run up to last couple of championship clashes .we know how they ended

Horgan had right go at Johnny Cooper on Eir a few weeks ago. Hmmm what's that pot, kettle, blaack

What he say about him


Called him out for his diving antics.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: criostlinn on March 03, 2018, 11:36:14 AM
Fair enough but surely its not healthy to have such an obvious bad natured campaign against a player through media like what happened keegan  two years ago,I dunno but I think it crossed the line .its one thing to be playing down your counties chances with a bit of beal bocht but to me that seemed extreme . 

James Horan is in national spotlight too but for a smart guy he seems to go the other end of the scale altogether , absolutely mocked Galway in the run up to last couple of championship clashes .we know how they ended

Horgan had right go at Johnny Cooper on Eir a few weeks ago. Hmmm what's that pot, kettle, blaack

What he say about him


Called him out for his diving antics.
That's outrageous. Surely deserves a boycott and a firm response from Jim Gavin. Jonny Cooper diving. Come on James seriously. He should be giving credit to Cooper and the Dublin medical team for the way they get him through some games after the serious injuries he receives. That magic spongue to the head treatment is such a medical breakthrough.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Gael85 on March 03, 2018, 11:40:20 AM
Fair enough but surely its not healthy to have such an obvious bad natured campaign against a player through media like what happened keegan  two years ago,I dunno but I think it crossed the line .its one thing to be playing down your counties chances with a bit of beal bocht but to me that seemed extreme . 

James Horan is in national spotlight too but for a smart guy he seems to go the other end of the scale altogether , absolutely mocked Galway in the run up to last couple of championship clashes .we know how they ended

There was no campaign towards Lee Keegan in 2016. He sailed close to the wind in many big games for Mayo and was rightly called out by pundits who were asked opinion on the Connolly/Keegan incidents in the first 2016 game. Everyone will obviously be bias towards their own county. We see the same when Kevin McStay,Billy Joe Padden,James Horan,John Maughan and Martin Carney air their views on national tv/radio.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: larryin89 on March 03, 2018, 12:44:51 PM
I dont believe that to be true at all. They swayed the whole country towards a narrative that said the big bad keegan was only nullifying the great dermo by pulling and dragging out of him.  It wasnt right what was going said whelo, barney break hohn finns jaw Rock , to name a couple. Look like any good politician these things can be spinned to suit an agenda. You won't convince me of any innocent explanation nor justification . It was an orchestrated campaign. Dublin and Kerry are masters and because they win regularly its not scrutinized with an open mind .

Mayo media are complete amateurs in comparison and thats the truth.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: From the Bunker on March 03, 2018, 12:57:18 PM
Fair enough but surely its not healthy to have such an obvious bad natured campaign against a player through media like what happened keegan  two years ago,I dunno but I think it crossed the line .its one thing to be playing down your counties chances with a bit of beal bocht but to me that seemed extreme . 

James Horan is in national spotlight too but for a smart guy he seems to go the other end of the scale altogether , absolutely mocked Galway in the run up to last couple of championship clashes .we know how they ended

There was no campaign towards Lee Keegan in 2016. He sailed close to the wind in many big games for Mayo and was rightly called out by pundits who were asked opinion on the Connolly/Keegan incidents in the first 2016 game. Everyone will obviously be bias towards their own county. We see the same when Kevin McStay,Billy Joe Padden,James Horan,John Maughan and Martin Carney air their views on national tv/radio.

GO way ta F***! Any Dublin pundit that had access to the media ran with the story! It was coordinated! For so many to be singing from the same hymn sheet proved this! Take the fecking blinkers off! The Kerry Boys have sounded this incident out the last couple of years! Mainly because they know that Dublin will try it in the future with them and they want to highlight it! They know that only some of the game is controlled on the pitch!
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Maroon Manc on March 03, 2018, 01:15:40 PM

Unlike most other counties Mayo and Galway have one of their biggest games in early May! It is up to Roachford and Co to have the lads prepared for that game if it means stepping on toes so be it!

Tbf, this is an annual occurrence for the ulster boys

The one in Connacht actually effects the course of the overall season unlike those Ulster games, though. One top ten team will be faced with an almost impossible hole to dig themselves out (the Super 8 will only make the grind of making the AISF via the backdoor far more attritional) of while the other will be in the last 12 of the country.
And meanwhile we only have to bate Laythrum/NY to make the last 12.
Great to win the lotto 2 years in a row ;D

4th year in a row your lot have been on the opposite side of the draw to Galway & Mayo.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Gael85 on March 03, 2018, 01:15:52 PM
Lee Keegan is the best defender in the country but he is a master in the dark arts too. Watched 5/6 games previous to that game where he escaped blatant black card/yellow cards offences. As for this campaign about his name been blackened is just nonsense. Was playing on the edge too long as was bound to get caught eventually.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Gael85 on March 03, 2018, 01:26:54 PM
Fair enough but surely its not healthy to have such an obvious bad natured campaign against a player through media like what happened keegan  two years ago,I dunno but I think it crossed the line .its one thing to be playing down your counties chances with a bit of beal bocht but to me that seemed extreme . 

James Horan is in national spotlight too but for a smart guy he seems to go the other end of the scale altogether , absolutely mocked Galway in the run up to last couple of championship clashes .we know how they ended

Horgan had right go at Johnny Cooper on Eir a few weeks ago. Hmmm what's that pot, kettle, blaack

What he say about him


Called him out for his diving antics.
That's outrageous. Surely deserves a boycott and a firm response from Jim Gavin. Jonny Cooper diving. Come on James seriously. He should be giving credit to Cooper and the Dublin medical team for the way they get him through some games after the serious injuries he receives. That magic spongue to the head treatment is such a medical breakthrough.

Rightly called out by Horan. Cooper is great defender but doesn't need to get involved in these antics as big call will go against him eventually.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: From the Bunker on March 03, 2018, 01:29:04 PM
Lee Keegan is the best defender in the country but he is a master in the dark arts too. Watched 5/6 games previous to that game where he escaped blatant black card/yellow cards offences. As for this campaign about his name been blackened is just nonsense. Was playing on the edge too long as was bound to get caught eventually.

The issue is not how saintly Lee Keegan is! The issue is that over the period of 6 days Lee Keegan was subjected to the Consorted campaign from the national media! None of Dublins Saints such as Small, Cooper or McMahon who all continuously engage in the dark arts were singled out!!  Why? Because the NATIONAL media based in Dublin will not blacken their own (and why should they). 
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Gael85 on March 03, 2018, 01:37:02 PM
Lee Keegan is the best defender in the country but he is a master in the dark arts too. Watched 5/6 games previous to that game where he escaped blatant black card/yellow cards offences. As for this campaign about his name been blackened is just nonsense. Was playing on the edge too long as was bound to get caught eventually.

The issue is not how saintly Lee Keegan is! The issue is that over the period of 6 days Lee Keegan was subjected to the Consorted campaign from the national media! None of Dublins Saints such as Small, Cooper or McMahon who all continuously engage in the dark arts were singled out!!  Why? Because the NATIONAL media based in Dublin will not blacken their own (and why should they).

Bar a couple ex Dublin players how many of the national media are Dubs? Cooper and Philly have been called out many a time in media and are marked men with referees. We could go on about players and darts arts. Dublin, Kerry and Mayo are top teams but also the most cynical of pitch.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: From the Bunker on March 03, 2018, 01:54:07 PM
Lee Keegan is the best defender in the country but he is a master in the dark arts too. Watched 5/6 games previous to that game where he escaped blatant black card/yellow cards offences. As for this campaign about his name been blackened is just nonsense. Was playing on the edge too long as was bound to get caught eventually.

The issue is not how saintly Lee Keegan is! The issue is that over the period of 6 days Lee Keegan was subjected to the Consorted campaign from the national media! None of Dublins Saints such as Small, Cooper or McMahon who all continuously engage in the dark arts were singled out!!  Why? Because the NATIONAL media based in Dublin will not blacken their own (and why should they).

Bar a couple ex Dublin players how many of the national media are Dubs? Cooper and Philly have been called out many a time in media and are marked men with referees. We could go on about players and darts arts. Dublin, Kerry and Mayo are top teams but also the most cynical of pitch.


Look, most players get called out! But the concentrated effort that week was well above the norm! There were up to 10 Dublin pundits singing the same song all together!

And there was no controversy, no dodgy tackle, no penalty decision, Red Card, nothing that usually fills the headlines. it just came out of the blue!
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Never beat the deeler on March 03, 2018, 08:23:26 PM
Lee Keegan is the best defender in the country but he is a master in the dark arts too. Watched 5/6 games previous to that game where he escaped blatant black card/yellow cards offences. As for this campaign about his name been blackened is just nonsense. Was playing on the edge too long as was bound to get caught eventually.

The issue is not how saintly Lee Keegan is! The issue is that over the period of 6 days Lee Keegan was subjected to the Consorted campaign from the national media! None of Dublins Saints such as Small, Cooper or McMahon who all continuously engage in the dark arts were singled out!!  Why? Because the NATIONAL media based in Dublin will not blacken their own (and why should they).

Bar a couple ex Dublin players how many of the national media are Dubs? Cooper and Philly have been called out many a time in media and are marked men with referees. We could go on about players and darts arts. Dublin, Kerry and Mayo are top teams but also the most cynical of pitch.


Look, most players get called out! But the concentrated effort that week was well above the norm! There were up to 10 Dublin pundits singing the same song all together!

And there was no controversy, no dodgy tackle, no penalty decision, Red Card, nothing that usually fills the headlines. it just came out of the blue!

Literally!
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Captain Obvious on March 04, 2018, 01:51:46 PM
No football this weekend http://www.gaa.ie/news/all-allianz-football-and-hurling-league-matches-postponed/
The GAA are criticized for calling off games too late was this a case of calling games off too soon?
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: tippabu on March 04, 2018, 01:56:12 PM
No football this weekend http://www.gaa.ie/news/all-allianz-football-and-hurling-league-matches-postponed/
The GAA are criticized for calling off games too late was this a case of calling games off too soon?

Theres still loads of snow in tipp anyway, no chance any games around here would have been going ahead, cant imagine many grounds around the country being much different and then throw in the safety of supporters having to travel. All the hurling had to be played at the same time due to it being last day and permutations on finishing positions. GAA made the correct decision on these games
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Cunny Funt on March 04, 2018, 02:04:48 PM
No football this weekend http://www.gaa.ie/news/all-allianz-football-and-hurling-league-matches-postponed/
The GAA are criticized for calling off games too late was this a case of calling games off too soon?

Theres still loads of snow in tipp anyway, no chance any games around here would have been going ahead, cant imagine many grounds around the country being much different and then throw in the safety of supporters having to travel. All the hurling had to be played at the same time due to it being last day and permutations on finishing positions. GAA made the correct decision on these games
Lots of counties got little or no snow and any snow is washed away with the rain now.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Donnellys Hollow on March 04, 2018, 02:08:59 PM
There would have been zero chance of a game going ahead in Newbridge today.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: longballin on March 04, 2018, 02:11:50 PM
no one would have went to Omagh last night; wouldnt put a bin out in that cold
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Rossfan on March 04, 2018, 02:36:48 PM
With the forecasts and warnings etc the GAA did the absolutely right thing.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Syferus on March 04, 2018, 04:47:56 PM
No football this weekend http://www.gaa.ie/news/all-allianz-football-and-hurling-league-matches-postponed/
The GAA are criticized for calling off games too late was this a case of calling games off too soon?

I knew there’d be one.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Blowitupref on March 04, 2018, 04:54:07 PM
With the forecasts and warnings etc the GAA did the absolutely right thing.
Considering only a few counties were badly affected was the warnings not a little over the top? the long range forecast for Saturday and Sunday was mostly rain i believe also.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Captain Obvious on March 04, 2018, 04:58:01 PM
No football this weekend http://www.gaa.ie/news/all-allianz-football-and-hurling-league-matches-postponed/
The GAA are criticized for calling off games too late was this a case of calling games off too soon?

Theres still loads of snow in tipp anyway, no chance any games around here would have been going ahead, cant imagine many grounds around the country being much different and then throw in the safety of supporters having to travel. All the hurling had to be played at the same time due to it being last day and permutations on finishing positions. GAA made the correct decision on these games

Fair point on the hurling however I think a few football games would have went ahead today if they weren't called off too soon.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: tippabu on March 04, 2018, 05:02:20 PM
With the forecasts and warnings etc the GAA did the absolutely right thing.
Considering only a few counties were badly affected was the warnings not a little over the top? the long range forecast for Saturday and Sunday was mostly rain i believe also.

How many divison 1 games could have went ahead?

dublin kerry? an awful lot of snow in dublin, pitch might have been ok but surrounding areas around croke park might have called it
Tyrone Donegal? omagh playable?
Galway Monaghan? was this playable
Kildare Mayo....been said already this couldnt have been played

Theres still a good blanket of snow in tipp so the double header couldnt go ahead thus meaning all 1A hurling games wouldve been pulled
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Blowitupref on March 04, 2018, 05:08:49 PM
With the forecasts and warnings etc the GAA did the absolutely right thing.
Considering only a few counties were badly affected was the warnings not a little over the top? the long range forecast for Saturday and Sunday was mostly rain i believe also.

How many divison 1 games could have went ahead?

dublin kerry? an awful lot of snow in dublin, pitch might have been ok but surrounding areas around croke park might have called it
Tyrone Donegal? omagh playable?
Galway Monaghan? was this playable
Kildare Mayo....been said already this couldnt have been played

Theres still a good blanket of snow in tipp so the double header couldnt go ahead thus meaning all 1A hurling games wouldve been pulled
I'm sure a few games in each division would be playable today. Did the Leitrims game in London need to be called off for example?
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Syferus on March 04, 2018, 05:12:52 PM
Some of ye would not want to be let near a fixtures list. The GAA is chaotic enough without more fûcking about until the last second not knowing if a game is going ahead or not.

Safety of supporters travelling and the players should come first.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Cunny Funt on March 04, 2018, 05:18:08 PM
In the future i can imagine the GAA heads at HQ will go back to their old routine of deciding if pitches are playable 2 hours before throw in.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: armaghniac on March 04, 2018, 05:37:14 PM
With the forecasts and warnings etc the GAA did the absolutely right thing.
Considering only a few counties were badly affected was the warnings not a little over the top? the long range forecast for Saturday and Sunday was mostly rain i believe also.

How many divison 1 games could have went ahead?

dublin kerry? an awful lot of snow in dublin, pitch might have been ok but surrounding areas around croke park might have called it
Tyrone Donegal? omagh playable?
Galway Monaghan? was this playable
Kildare Mayo....been said already this couldnt have been played

Theres still a good blanket of snow in tipp so the double header couldnt go ahead thus meaning all 1A hurling games wouldve been pulled
I'm sure a few games in each division would be playable today. Did the Leitrims game in London need to be called off for example?

At the time this was called off the status of flights was in doubt. Now flights did largely return yesterday, but schedules are disrupted and the team would have to get to the airport, setting off earlier in the day.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Rossfan on March 04, 2018, 05:48:31 PM
Were Laythrum to swim the Irish Sea or something????
How were Kerry to get to Croke Park with the M7 barely open if at all.
How many team would have got to destinations yesterday ir today?

And it's  "have gone" not have "went"
Black cards all round.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Farrandeelin on March 04, 2018, 06:10:01 PM
Correct decision made all round. It was just a pain in the hole trying to pass the time. :D
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: OgraAnDun on March 04, 2018, 06:35:53 PM
Half the country is still under an orange alert FFS.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: spuds on March 05, 2018, 12:18:51 AM
Half the country is still under an orange alert FFS.

FFS = I truely believe in what I say

PSS You are right
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: larryin89 on March 05, 2018, 10:04:30 AM
Half the country is still under an orange alert FFS.


Nah, just the six
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: tippabu on March 05, 2018, 10:42:19 AM
Half the country is still under an orange alert FFS.


Nah, just the six

The whole of Leinster, cork, tipp, waterford, Cavan, monaghan so that's 17 and counties up north don't fall under our warnings, so over half was actually still under orange alert
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Farrandeelin on March 05, 2018, 11:22:32 AM
Half the country is still under an orange alert FFS.


Nah, just the six

The whole of Leinster, cork, tipp, waterford, Cavan, monaghan so that's 17 and counties up north don't fall under our warnings, so over half was actually still under orange alert

I don't think you get him... 'orange' alert.  :P
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: tippabu on March 05, 2018, 01:55:27 PM
Half the country is still under an orange alert FFS.


Nah, just the six

The whole of Leinster, cork, tipp, waterford, Cavan, monaghan so that's 17 and counties up north don't fall under our warnings, so over half was actually still under orange alert

I don't think you get him... 'orange' alert.  :P

Ah, they're no threat
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: tonto1888 on March 05, 2018, 03:00:04 PM
the refixtures are out

http://www.gaa.ie/news/this-weekend-allianz-league-fixtures/
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Cunny Funt on March 05, 2018, 04:42:43 PM
Predictions

Dublin to beat Kerry
A narrow win for Tyrone v Donegal
Galway and Monaghan to draw a low scoring match
Mayo to beat Kildare
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: seafoid on March 05, 2018, 05:22:52 PM
About 1 minute into this TSG from last year Joe Brolly draws attention to how organised Tyrone were.

https://youtu.be/JWiRaKqwx_M

Now they have 2 points after 4 . Are they just concentrating on later in the year ?
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Blowitupref on March 05, 2018, 05:59:54 PM
About 1 minute into this TSG from last year Joe Brolly draws attention to how organised Tyrone were.

https://youtu.be/JWiRaKqwx_M

Now they have 2 points after 4 . Are they just concentrating on later in the year ?
Looks that way especially when they didn't even win the McKenna cup this year.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Syferus on March 05, 2018, 06:21:19 PM
Either that or they’re simply regressing. Everything isn’t always part of a plan.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: cornetto on March 06, 2018, 03:40:46 PM
Kildare v mayo could be the game of the weekend,it's do or die for kildare,a win gives them a chance while mayo have the cushion of Tyrone at home in there next match to garner a minimum 4pts.i expect Galway to beat Monahan in a tight game what odds on both finishing with 15?
Wins for Dublin and donegal.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Cunny Funt on March 06, 2018, 04:20:26 PM
Kildare v mayo could be the game of the weekend,it's do or die for kildare,a win gives them a chance while mayo have the cushion of Tyrone at home in there next match to garner a minimum 4pts.i expect Galway to beat Monahan in a tight game what odds on both finishing with 15?
Wins for Dublin and donegal.
It could be, the last league meeting between the two was a high scoring game with Paddy Brophy standing out in a narrow win for Kildare.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on March 06, 2018, 11:25:51 PM
The second highest point of Jason Ryan's tenure in his first competitive game.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Farrandeelin on March 07, 2018, 09:28:58 AM
Anyone want to predict the bottom 2?

Mayo have Kildare away, Tyrone home, Donegal away.

Tyrone have Donegal home, Mayo away, Kerry home.

Donegal have Tyrone away, Monaghan away, Mayo home.

Kildare have Mayo home, Kerry away, Galway home.

Kildare look to have the toughest run-in. They might take us at the weekend and if they do then anything is possible. Galway might have nothing to play for on the last round. Donegal have a tough enough last few games too, but I think they will beat Tyrone and Mayo never win in Donegal. They might trip up at Monaghan. Tyrone need to buck up if they have any chance, mind you Mayo in Castlebar might give them the kick for the last game in Omagh versus the Kingdom. Mayo have to beat Kildare on Sunday. Simple as. I wouldn't like to have to need 4 points against Tyrone and Donegal in the last two games. However that's what happened last year.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: skeog on March 07, 2018, 09:35:06 AM
Donegal,Mayo,and Kildare look most likely to fight it out for relegation.Two home victories for Tyrone will keep them safe.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: cornetto on March 08, 2018, 03:01:01 PM
At the end of the day the league is a pre championship competition,it is a training ground to try out new things against similar graded teams.in an earlier post I said padraig Cunningham who has got little game time so far, was coaxed back to football with the promise Galway would be making a serious assault on the league and staying up was a priority, which is exactly what they have done.i for one would be happy with that,a league final against the dubs could throw up more questions than answers.the other side would say it's a good learning curve,Well Monahan still have a big say who will contest what so let's wait for the weekend results to see what lies ahead.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: seafoid on March 08, 2018, 03:25:01 PM
Anyone want to predict the bottom 2?

Mayo have Kildare away, Tyrone home, Donegal away.

Tyrone have Donegal home, Mayo away, Kerry home.

Donegal have Tyrone away, Monaghan away, Mayo home.

Kildare have Mayo home, Kerry away, Galway home.

Kildare look to have the toughest run-in. They might take us at the weekend and if they do then anything is possible. Galway might have nothing to play for on the last round. Donegal have a tough enough last few games too, but I think they will beat Tyrone and Mayo never win in Donegal. They might trip up at Monaghan. Tyrone need to buck up if they have any chance, mind you Mayo in Castlebar might give them the kick for the last game in Omagh versus the Kingdom. Mayo have to beat Kildare on Sunday. Simple as. I wouldn't like to have to need 4 points against Tyrone and Donegal in the last two games. However that's what happened last year.
Kildare and Tyrone
I can't see Mayo going down
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: larryin89 on March 08, 2018, 05:34:26 PM
If Mayo get relegated it will not only  seal the end of an era . Its a complete disaster getting relegated , it will set us back even further with the  rebuilding phase that is needed  immediately after this years championship.
  I can see Kildare beating us , there is an intriguing aspect to this game to see how we deal with the kildare full forward
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Captain Obvious on March 08, 2018, 07:40:30 PM
I'll be shocked if Mayo get relegated especially now when they are getting players back and are fitter than the earlier rounds. They will likely win all of their remaining games than get relegated. Tyrone v Donegal a huge game this weekend the loser of that will likely join Kildare in Div 2 next year.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: macdanger2 on March 09, 2018, 12:34:35 PM
Presume we'll name our team tonight, will be interesting to see who goes MF - the two championship incumbents or one plus Gibbons/Nally/Coen.

Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Orchard park on March 09, 2018, 01:49:21 PM
If Mayo get relegated it will not only  seal the end of an era . Its a complete disaster getting relegated , it will set us back even further with the  rebuilding phase that is needed  immediately after this years championship.
  I can see Kildare beating us , there is an intriguing aspect to this game to see how we deal with the kildare full forward

Ger Cafferky wont have any problems with high ball surely
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Maroon Manc on March 09, 2018, 05:49:24 PM
I see @dontfoul has put some stats on twitter with regards to possessions and how many shots per game its led too and from a defensive point of view how many shots the opposition have.

From a Galway point of view backs up what we know that Brannigan has begun to compose himself whilst Shane Walsh is still lacking in that department with 0-3 from 0-11; I'm assuming this is from play. Galway have a great conversion rate but I'm sure this can be partly put down to the natures of the way they play. Its no surprise to us Galway posters who spend most of our time moaning about kickouts that Galway just don't get enough primary possession, unless that stat improves in the championship Galway won't be making any great inroads.



Mayo's conversion rate is very poor whilst Donegal's isn't much better but in fairness to them their attempting a lot more attempts at the posts then Mayo.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: An Fhairche Abu on March 09, 2018, 05:58:18 PM
 link (https://dontfoul.wordpress.com/2018/03/08/2018-division-1-overview-post-rd4/amp/?__twitter_impression=true) for those interested in that dontfoul post. Very interesting material.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: macdanger2 on March 09, 2018, 06:47:44 PM
link (https://dontfoul.wordpress.com/2018/03/08/2018-division-1-overview-post-rd4/amp/?__twitter_impression=true) for those interested in that dontfoul post. Very interesting material.

Serious shooting stats from Fenton, 13 shots and 1-7 scored. Class footballer
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Blowitupref on March 09, 2018, 07:07:36 PM
link (https://dontfoul.wordpress.com/2018/03/08/2018-division-1-overview-post-rd4/amp/?__twitter_impression=true) for those interested in that dontfoul post. Very interesting material.

Serious shooting stats from Fenton, 13 shots and 1-7 scored. Class footballer
A lot of forwards would love to have that strike rate.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Cunny Funt on March 09, 2018, 09:05:52 PM

Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: MayoBuck on March 09, 2018, 10:29:50 PM



2 big inside forwards in that team. Hopefully Rochford will play Ger McDonagh and Caolan Crowe to try and deal with it.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Farrandeelin on March 09, 2018, 11:19:02 PM
Peter Naughton released from Mayo panel.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Blowitupref on March 09, 2018, 11:44:28 PM
Monaghan team to play Galway

1. Rory Beggan (Scotsown)

2. Kieran Duffy (Latton)
3. Conor Boyle (Clontibret)
3. Ryan Wylie (Ballybay)

5. Vinnie Corey (Clontibret)
6. Paraic Mc Guirk (Seán Mac Diarmada)
7. Dessie Mone (Clontibret)

8. Darren Hughes (Scotstown)
9. Niall Kearns (Sean McDermotts)

11. Fintan Kelly (Clones)
10. Dessie Ward (Ballybay)
12. Ryan Mc Anespie (Scairbh na gCaorach)

13. Jack McCarron (Currin)
14. Thomas Kerr (Ballybay)
15. Conor McCarthy (Scotstown)

Subs

16. Shane Garland (Domhnach Maighean)
17. Drew Wylie (Béal Átha Beithe)
18. Karl O’Connell (Tigh Thalainn)
19. Kieran Hughes (An Bhoth)
20. Neil Mc Adam (Na Cláirsigh Mhuineacháin)
21. Paudie Mc Kenna (Gaeil Triúcha)
22. Dermot Malone (Fág An Bealach)
23. Owen Duffy (Leachtain)
24. David Garland (Domhnach Maighean)
25. Conor Mc Manus (Cluain Tiobraid)
26. Michéal Bannigan (Achadh na Muileann)

Kerry team to play Dublin

1. Shane Murphy (Dr. Crokes)

2. Shane Enright (Tarbert)
3. Jason Foley (Ballydonoghue)
4. Ronan Shanahan (Austin Stacks)

5. Paul Murphy (Rathmore)
6. Peter Crowley (Laune Rangers)
7. Brian Ó Beaglaoich (An Ghaeltacht)

8. Jack Barry (Na Gaeil)
9. Barry O’Sullivan (Dingle)

10. Micheál Burns (Dr. Crokes)
11. Séan O’Shea (Kenmare)
12. Adrian Spillane (Templenoe)

13. David Clifford (Fossa)
14. Paul Geaney (Dingle)
15. Kevin McCarthy (Kilcummin)

Subs:

16. Brian Kelly (Killarney Legion)
17. Barry John Keane (Kerins O’Rahillys)
18. Tom O’Sullivan (Dingle)
19. Éanna Ó Conchúir (An Ghaeltacht)
20. Matthew Flaherty (Dingle)
21. Dáithí Casey (Dr. Crokes)
22. Michael Geaney (Dingle)
23. Fionn Fitzgerald (Dr. Crokes)
24. Mark Griffin (St. Michaels/Foilmore)
25. Jack Savage (Kerins O’Rahillys)
26. David Moran Kerins O’Rahillys)
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: MayoBuck on March 10, 2018, 01:45:13 AM
What's up with James O'Donoghue? Injured again?
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: An Watcher on March 10, 2018, 07:37:25 AM
Strongly fancy Monaghan to beat Galway.  They seem to have the bit between their teeth and would have more experience than Galway at this level in recent years.  Galway are safe from relegation and I wouldn't be surprised to see some complacency creep in or indeed the manager try out some new things
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Farrandeelin on March 10, 2018, 11:20:44 AM
Keith Higgins not named in the starting 15 for the hurlers against Down this time. Might feature tomorrow for the footballers yet!
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: macdanger2 on March 10, 2018, 11:25:41 AM
Peter Naughton released from Mayo panel.

Sh*te. Was hoping he'd get a run in the league
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: larryin89 on March 10, 2018, 12:12:33 PM
Really dont get this releasing lads who are not tried but persisting with lads who are trying for a few years but are adding nothing .
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Schkite on March 10, 2018, 04:29:35 PM
Monaghan team to play Galway

1. Rory Beggan (Scotsown)

2. Kieran Duffy (Latton)
3. Conor Boyle (Clontibret)
3. Ryan Wylie (Ballybay)

5. Vinnie Corey (Clontibret)
6. Paraic Mc Guirk (Seán Mac Diarmada)
7. Dessie Mone (Clontibret)

8. Darren Hughes (Scotstown)
9. Niall Kearns (Sean McDermotts)

11. Fintan Kelly (Clones)
10. Dessie Ward (Ballybay)
12. Ryan Mc Anespie (Scairbh na gCaorach)

13. Jack McCarron (Currin)
14. Thomas Kerr (Ballybay)
15. Conor McCarthy (Scotstown)

Subs

16. Shane Garland (Domhnach Maighean)
17. Drew Wylie (Béal Átha Beithe)
18. Karl O’Connell (Tigh Thalainn)
19. Kieran Hughes (An Bhoth)
20. Neil Mc Adam (Na Cláirsigh Mhuineacháin)
21. Paudie Mc Kenna (Gaeil Triúcha)
22. Dermot Malone (Fág An Bealach)
23. Owen Duffy (Leachtain)
24. David Garland (Domhnach Maighean)
25. Conor Mc Manus (Cluain Tiobraid)
26. Michéal Bannigan (Achadh na Muileann)


Not a hope the named team actually starts, but that's as strong a bench as I can remember from Monaghan. And that's even without Walshe or McGinn in the panel. Squad strength has really improved in the last few years.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: screenexile on March 10, 2018, 05:51:35 PM
Any streams for the Tyrone Donegal match tonight lads?
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on March 10, 2018, 06:28:57 PM
McBrearty out for Donegal.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Schkite on March 10, 2018, 07:11:50 PM
Any streams for the Tyrone Donegal match tonight lads?

If you have mobdro it's on premier sports.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Blowitupref on March 10, 2018, 07:16:28 PM
15 mins gone Tyrone 0-3 Donegal 0-5 a good open game of football so far.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: tippabu on March 10, 2018, 07:36:35 PM
Is there a rule against giving goalies black cards, that was as blatant a black card as youll see, happened us a few years ago where keeper dragged down a player who went past him, textbook black card, he gets nothing and saves the penalty.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Blowitupref on March 10, 2018, 07:37:23 PM
Half time Tyrone 1-5 Donegal 0-7. Peter Harte kicked a penalty wide on 31 mins but scored a goal on 35 minutes Sludden.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Farrandeelin on March 10, 2018, 07:40:26 PM
Mayo team

1. Rob Hennelly - Breaffy
2. Caolan Crowe - Garrymore
3. Ger Cafferkey - Ballina Stephenites
4. Eoin O’Donoghue - Belmullet
5. Colm Boyle - Davitts
6. Lee Keegan - Westport
7. Michael Hall - Breaffy
8. Stephen Coen - Hollymount/Carramore
9. Seamus O'Shea - Breaffy
10. Kevin McLoughlin - Knockmore
11. Aidan O’Shea - Breaffy
12. Diarmuid O’Connor - Ballintubber
13. Jason Doherty - Burrishoole
14. Andy Moran - Ballaghaderreen
15. Adam Gallagher - Mayo Gaels

Team Manager: Stephen Rochford
Selectors: Donie Buckley, Peter Burke, Joe Keane & Tony McEntee.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: twohands!!! on March 10, 2018, 07:41:24 PM
Sludden's shot for goal managed to beat 4 Donegal players- he really managed to thread the needle with his shot.

All to play for in the 2nd half. I don't think anyone would be surprised if this ended up being decided in injury-time.

There's been no draw in any game in Division 1 so far this year.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Farrandeelin on March 10, 2018, 08:40:45 PM
Bad loss for Donegal.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: seafoid on March 10, 2018, 08:51:47 PM
Bad loss for Donegal.
Super win for Tyrone
Makes Mayo''s run in a bit more interesting.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: omagh_gael on March 10, 2018, 09:05:55 PM
Excellent win tonight when it really mattered. League football isn't the be all and end all, however, it's getting more important to stick with the big guns to tune up for summer football. Make no mistake, if one of the big teams goes down to division 2 it'll seriously hamper them the following season.

Fully agree with Aaron Kernan's choice for MOTM. Sludden has been stuttering so far this campaign but he was on fire tonight. A real rolls Royce of a player and if we can get that HF line of Donnelly, Sludden and Harte on tune in the summer then we can make an impact. Sludden's goal is the stand out moment for him but his tracking back and blocking was first class.

Huge sigh of relief to get that second win. Need one more win to keep us safe.

Before this game Donegal were second top scorers behind Dublin but still went into the game with a poor score difference. Their attack is formidable, however, the young guns in defence look to be a serious step down compared to the old hands. Early days yet, of course, but must still be a worry.

Finally, what does Bonner do with big Murphy? He's burning seriously dirty petrol from play and is struggling big time with his shooting. Is it a case of fire away and it'll sort itself out? What's the story with McBrearty? Is the knee bad?
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Captain Obvious on March 10, 2018, 09:38:26 PM
Bad loss for Donegal.
They will do very to stay up now. Have been unlucky though as they played well against Galway,Dublin,Kerry and tonight had to play without their top scoring forward.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Cunny Funt on March 10, 2018, 09:41:12 PM
Mayo team

1. Rob Hennelly - Breaffy
2. Caolan Crowe - Garrymore
3. Ger Cafferkey - Ballina Stephenites
4. Eoin O’Donoghue - Belmullet
5. Colm Boyle - Davitts
6. Lee Keegan - Westport
7. Michael Hall - Breaffy
8. Stephen Coen - Hollymount/Carramore
9. Seamus O'Shea - Breaffy
10. Kevin McLoughlin - Knockmore
11. Aidan O’Shea - Breaffy
12. Diarmuid O’Connor - Ballintubber
13. Jason Doherty - Burrishoole
14. Andy Moran - Ballaghaderreen
15. Adam Gallagher - Mayo Gaels

Team Manager: Stephen Rochford
Selectors: Donie Buckley, Peter Burke, Joe Keane & Tony McEntee.
The odds on P Durcan,T Parsons and C O Connor to start now after that dummy team is published?
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: trileacman on March 10, 2018, 10:30:33 PM
Donegal have been very unlucky this league campaign. Given how much better they played against Dublin and galway compared to us and we were damn lucky to get our win in Kildare.

They played some top stuff all year and now look destined for the drop. It’s f**king tough at the top.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: bucko on March 10, 2018, 10:35:27 PM
Mayo team

1. Rob Hennelly - Breaffy
2. Caolan Crowe - Garrymore
3. Ger Cafferkey - Ballina Stephenites
4. Eoin O’Donoghue - Belmullet
5. Colm Boyle - Davitts
6. Lee Keegan - Westport
7. Michael Hall - Breaffy
8. Stephen Coen - Hollymount/Carramore
9. Seamus O'Shea - Breaffy
10. Kevin McLoughlin - Knockmore
11. Aidan O’Shea - Breaffy
12. Diarmuid O’Connor - Ballintubber
13. Jason Doherty - Burrishoole
14. Andy Moran - Ballaghaderreen
15. Adam Gallagher - Mayo Gaels

Team Manager: Stephen Rochford
Selectors: Donie Buckley, Peter Burke, Joe Keane & Tony McEntee.
The odds on P Durcan,T Parsons and C O Connor to start now after that dummy team is published?
O’Connor probably for Gallagher. I’d say if fit Parsons and Durcan will be held in reserve.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Lar Naparka on March 10, 2018, 11:01:18 PM
Mayo team

1. Rob Hennelly - Breaffy
2. Caolan Crowe - Garrymore
3. Ger Cafferkey - Ballina Stephenites
4. Eoin O’Donoghue - Belmullet
5. Colm Boyle - Davitts
6. Lee Keegan - Westport
7. Michael Hall - Breaffy
8. Stephen Coen - Hollymount/Carramore
9. Seamus O'Shea - Breaffy
10. Kevin McLoughlin - Knockmore
11. Aidan O’Shea - Breaffy
12. Diarmuid O’Connor - Ballintubber
13. Jason Doherty - Burrishoole
14. Andy Moran - Ballaghaderreen
15. Adam Gallagher - Mayo Gaels

Team Manager: Stephen Rochford
Selectors: Donie Buckley, Peter Burke, Joe Keane & Tony McEntee.
The odds on P Durcan,T Parsons and C O Connor to start now after that dummy team is published?
O’Connor probably for Gallagher. I’d say if fit Parsons and Durcan will be held in reserve.
I hope he leaves Gallagher alone.  If he ever manages to recover the form he was beginning to show before he got crocked, he'll light up the championship and that's for sure.That was against Kildare too. (Emmett Bolton as far as I recall.) It would be sweet revenge if he shoots the bleddy lights out.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: From the Bunker on March 10, 2018, 11:58:01 PM
Mayo team

1. Rob Hennelly - Breaffy
2. Caolan Crowe - Garrymore
3. Ger Cafferkey - Ballina Stephenites
4. Eoin O’Donoghue - Belmullet
5. Colm Boyle - Davitts
6. Lee Keegan - Westport
7. Michael Hall - Breaffy
8. Stephen Coen - Hollymount/Carramore
9. Seamus O'Shea - Breaffy
10. Kevin McLoughlin - Knockmore
11. Aidan O’Shea - Breaffy
12. Diarmuid O’Connor - Ballintubber
13. Jason Doherty - Burrishoole
14. Andy Moran - Ballaghaderreen
15. Adam Gallagher - Mayo Gaels

Team Manager: Stephen Rochford
Selectors: Donie Buckley, Peter Burke, Joe Keane & Tony McEntee.
The odds on P Durcan,T Parsons and C O Connor to start now after that dummy team is published?
O’Connor probably for Gallagher. I’d say if fit Parsons and Durcan will be held in reserve.
I hope he leaves Gallagher alone.  If he ever manages to recover the form he was beginning to show before he got crocked, he'll light up the championship and that's for sure.That was against Kildare too. (Emmett Bolton as far as I recall.) It would be sweet revenge if he shoots the bleddy lights out.

Paddy AFAIK has hamstring problems. Although I seen him in the Gym this evening and he looked ok!
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: moysider on March 11, 2018, 12:45:35 AM
Mayo team

1. Rob Hennelly - Breaffy
2. Caolan Crowe - Garrymore
3. Ger Cafferkey - Ballina Stephenites
4. Eoin O’Donoghue - Belmullet
5. Colm Boyle - Davitts
6. Lee Keegan - Westport
7. Michael Hall - Breaffy
8. Stephen Coen - Hollymount/Carramore
9. Seamus O'Shea - Breaffy
10. Kevin McLoughlin - Knockmore
11. Aidan O’Shea - Breaffy
12. Diarmuid O’Connor - Ballintubber
13. Jason Doherty - Burrishoole
14. Andy Moran - Ballaghaderreen
15. Adam Gallagher - Mayo Gaels

Team Manager: Stephen Rochford
Selectors: Donie Buckley, Peter Burke, Joe Keane & Tony McEntee.
The odds on P Durcan,T Parsons and C O Connor to start now after that dummy team is published?
O’Connor probably for Gallagher. I’d say if fit Parsons and Durcan will be held in reserve.
I hope he leaves Gallagher alone.  If he ever manages to recover the form he was beginning to show before he got crocked, he'll light up the championship and that's for sure.That was against Kildare too. (Emmett Bolton as far as I recall.) It would be sweet revenge if he shoots the bleddy lights out.
I hope he leaves Gallagher alone too, but no idea what the Kildare connectiom with him is? We need somebody of his ability coming through. 
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: larryin89 on March 11, 2018, 07:30:42 AM
Gallagher was our best player v Kildare and v Tyrone in 2014 (I think was the year), looked a bit exposed then v Kerry in castlebar and then subsequently drifted into the sunset. He has got a decent bit bigger , has a good engine .  Should of taken the goal chance v Dublin though.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: omagh_gael on March 11, 2018, 08:39:08 AM
Remember Adam Gallagher well, he was by far the best Mayo player on show that day. At the time it reminded me of the first time I seen Kevin McLoughlin up in a league match in Omagh and thinking he is one we'll be seeing a lot of in the future.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: highorlow on March 11, 2018, 11:22:49 AM
Newbridge is a disaster area for us as regards injuries and season ending ones at that.

Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: J70 on March 11, 2018, 12:06:54 PM
Excellent win tonight when it really mattered. League football isn't the be all and end all, however, it's getting more important to stick with the big guns to tune up for summer football. Make no mistake, if one of the big teams goes down to division 2 it'll seriously hamper them the following season.

Fully agree with Aaron Kernan's choice for MOTM. Sludden has been stuttering so far this campaign but he was on fire tonight. A real rolls Royce of a player and if we can get that HF line of Donnelly, Sludden and Harte on tune in the summer then we can make an impact. Sludden's goal is the stand out moment for him but his tracking back and blocking was first class.

Huge sigh of relief to get that second win. Need one more win to keep us safe.

Before this game Donegal were second top scorers behind Dublin but still went into the game with a poor score difference. Their attack is formidable, however, the young guns in defence look to be a serious step down compared to the old hands. Early days yet, of course, but must still be a worry.

Finally, what does Bonner do with big Murphy? He's burning seriously dirty petrol from play and is struggling big time with his shooting. Is it a case of fire away and it'll sort itself out? What's the story with McBrearty? Is the knee bad?

On Donegal's defence, rather than the young players per se, what would be more of a worry is the repeated instances of teams breaking into open space with no one to be seen. Teams are getting through one-on-one or even two-on-one (the chance Kildare fucked up against us with the square ball) on the keeper. I'm all for getting away from the depressing defensive shite Rory Gallagher had us playing, but you can't play with NO ONE inside your OWN 45! I don't know if it by design or simply a lack of a leader back there taking charge and organizing. We'll see when McGee, McGrath, McGlynn and so on are back starting.

On Murphy, its the perennial problem of trying to rob Peter to play Paul. Leave him the f**k up the field at full forward (especially when McBrearty is out!). I only saw the first half, but the chances he missed weren't easy ones, even if he has scored plenty of those coming across off the left wing before. Let him work through it. Don't know what the story with McBrearty is, but hopefully he is fit for Monaghan next week.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: straightred on March 11, 2018, 01:12:57 PM
Stupid from kelly. Cost monaghan a red and a handy free in
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: galwayman on March 11, 2018, 01:14:38 PM
Stupid from kelly. Cost monaghan a red and a handy free in
We’re lucky to be only 2 down at ht.
There looks to be no energy in the team judging by the snails pace they’re breaking forward at.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Farrandeelin on March 11, 2018, 02:18:21 PM
Kildare 0-2 Mayo 0-4
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: seafoid on March 11, 2018, 02:37:24 PM
5/5 for Galway. Dochreidte
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Farrandeelin on March 11, 2018, 02:37:42 PM
Kildare 1-4 Mayo 1-9 half time
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: maigheo on March 11, 2018, 03:18:47 PM
Kildar 1.08 Mayo 1.17
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Farrandeelin on March 11, 2018, 03:45:04 PM
Kildare 1-12 Mayo 1-19. Massive win and badly needed.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: twohands!!! on March 11, 2018, 03:50:05 PM
I think Galway are nearly a shoe-in for one of the two league final places after today with 10 points and a score difference of +17.

They've beaten both Monaghan and Kerry (who are the only ones beside Dublin who could get to 10 points), both who have a -1 score difference.

In the bottom 5 Tyrone, Mayo and Kerry are on 4 points (Kerry still to play) Donegal on 2 and Kildare on 0.
Even for Kildare if they managed to get to 4 points they have lost to both Tyrone and Mayo and their score difference is now is -18
Mayo's is -4, Tyrone's is -1, Kerry's is -1 and Donegal's is -11.
Donegal have also lost in head-to-heads versus Kerry and Tyrone so they are really in a tight spot as well.
From looking at the current table, even if Donegal win their 2 remaining games and get to 6 points they might still get relegated if results elsewhere go against them.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: seafoid on March 11, 2018, 03:51:21 PM
Kildare, the craythurs

https://youtu.be/d1gYJDQXPOk
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: on the sideline on March 11, 2018, 04:39:34 PM
Any streams for the Dublin Kerry game?
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: omagh_gael on March 11, 2018, 05:03:36 PM
Dublin 8 up on Kerry. Give them Sam now and get it over with ;)
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: ashman on March 11, 2018, 05:09:13 PM
To be honest football is now like the all blacks playing all Ireland league teams .  They are at another level to every other team .  The authorities have created a monster .   
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: longballin on March 11, 2018, 05:21:41 PM
To be honest football is now like the all blacks playing all Ireland league teams .  They are at another level to every other team .  The authorities have created a monster .

That's the myth. Best players best team same as Kilkenny were a few years ago. It'll end sometime...
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on March 11, 2018, 05:36:08 PM
Could have been a 20 point win had the Dubs taken all their goal chances. Some outfit.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: seafoid on March 11, 2018, 06:39:08 PM
To be honest football is now like the all blacks playing all Ireland league teams .  They are at another level to every other team .  The authorities have created a monster .
The Dubs are loving lording it over Kerry. It was the other way around in the 80s. And it won't last forever.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: straightred on March 11, 2018, 06:56:58 PM
To be honest football is now like the all blacks playing all Ireland league teams .  They are at another level to every other team .  The authorities have created a monster .
The Dubs are loving lording it over Kerry. It was the other way around in the 80s. And it won't last forever.

Its not ending any time soon. Look at the way they are bringing new lads through while the older ones still have the hunger. MDMC rolled back the clock today and its a long time since I saw Cian O'Sullivan with so much possession. Kerry were miles away. It will be 7 wins plus the win the final of the league. Could we start handicapping them ?
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: seafoid on March 11, 2018, 07:10:36 PM
https://m.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/colm-orourke-galways-system-is-not-making-the-most-of-their-quality-players-36691670.html
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: seafoid on March 11, 2018, 07:21:48 PM
Tyrone, Mayo and Kerry on 4 , Donegal on 2 and Kildare on 0. 2 out of 5 to go down.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: sid waddell on March 11, 2018, 09:09:49 PM
Tyrone, Mayo and Kerry on 4 , Donegal on 2 and Kildare on 0. 2 out of 5 to go down.
It's possible for five teams to finish on six points if the following happens

Kerry beat Kildare
Mayo beat Tyrone
Donegal beat Monaghan
Tyrone beat Kerry
Donegal beat Mayo
Dublin beat Monaghan
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Fear ón Srath Bán on March 11, 2018, 09:47:47 PM
Predictions

Dublin to beat Kerry
A narrow win for Tyrone v Donegal
Galway and Monaghan to draw a low scoring match
Mayo to beat Kildare

Not too far away. :)

Kildare v mayo could be the game of the weekend,it's do or die for kildare,a win gives them a chance while mayo have the cushion of Tyrone at home in there next match to garner a minimum 4pts.i expect Galway to beat Monahan in a tight game what odds on both finishing with 15?
Wins for Dublin and donegal.

Don't give up the day-job! ;)
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Main Street on March 12, 2018, 12:59:40 AM
Predictions

Dublin to beat Kerry
A narrow win for Tyrone v Donegal
Galway and Monaghan to draw a low scoring match
Mayo to beat Kildare

Not too far away. :)

Kildare v mayo could be the game of the weekend,it's do or die for kildare,a win gives them a chance while mayo have the cushion of Tyrone at home in there next match to garner a minimum 4pts.i expect Galway to beat Monahan in a tight game what odds on both finishing with 15?
Wins for Dublin and donegal.

Don't give up the day-job! ;)
Though Tyrone are more of a hedgehog than a cushion, Mayo will surely langer Tyrone senseless in the next round.
FoSB ?? a tyronite  who finally emerges , throwing shapes, after cowering in some some dark hole for months on end until rescued by Tyrone coming out on top in a relegation dogfight :)
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Kurtz on March 12, 2018, 08:30:12 AM
To be honest football is now like the all blacks playing all Ireland league teams .  They are at another level to every other team .  The authorities have created a monster .
The Dubs are loving lording it over Kerry. It was the other way around in the 80s. And it won't last forever.

Yup. 70's and 80's it was Kerry Kerry Kerry
So, not much has changed, its just the Dubs have taken over
People forget that
the 90's things leveled out even though the football at times was awful to watch
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Kurtz on March 12, 2018, 08:33:51 AM
Predictions

Dublin to beat Kerry
A narrow win for Tyrone v Donegal
Galway and Monaghan to draw a low scoring match
Mayo to beat Kildare

Not too far away. :)

Kildare v mayo could be the game of the weekend,it's do or die for kildare,a win gives them a chance while mayo have the cushion of Tyrone at home in there next match to garner a minimum 4pts.i expect Galway to beat Monahan in a tight game what odds on both finishing with 15?
Wins for Dublin and donegal.

Don't give up the day-job! ;)
Though Tyrone are more of a hedgehog than a cushion, Mayo will surely langer Tyrone senseless in the next round.
FoSB ?? a tyronite  who finally emerges , throwing shapes, after cowering in some some dark hole for months on end until rescued by Tyrone coming out on top in a relegation dogfight :)

Mayo are mentally strong which is important in GAA
they always push on and do enough to stay up
many teams just give up
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Farrandeelin on March 12, 2018, 08:46:05 AM
Predictions

Dublin to beat Kerry
A narrow win for Tyrone v Donegal
Galway and Monaghan to draw a low scoring match
Mayo to beat Kildare

Not too far away. :)

Kildare v mayo could be the game of the weekend,it's do or die for kildare,a win gives them a chance while mayo have the cushion of Tyrone at home in there next match to garner a minimum 4pts.i expect Galway to beat Monahan in a tight game what odds on both finishing with 15?
Wins for Dublin and donegal.

Don't give up the day-job! ;)
Though Tyrone are more of a hedgehog than a cushion, Mayo will surely langer Tyrone senseless in the next round.
FoSB ?? a tyronite  who finally emerges , throwing shapes, after cowering in some some dark hole for months on end until rescued by Tyrone coming out on top in a relegation dogfight :)

Mayo are mentally strong which is important in GAA
they always push on and do enough to stay up
many teams just give up

Very true Kurtz. I'm usually down on our chances, but all last week I had a positive feeling about this one. It was a make or break game for them. Don't get me wrong we're not out of the woods just yet and we can be thankful Kildare misses a bucket load of chances, but we have a fighting chance of survival now.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Patrick-Armagh on March 12, 2018, 09:28:26 AM
Dublin's performance yesterday was frightening and showed how far this young, talented but experienced Kerry side have to go before being able to beat them. For the first 15 or 20 minutes, Kerry did very well and looked lively up front. Against Dublin, you have to take your chances. You can't afford not to. They are too good. Those two goal chances would really have made a difference, but they weren't taken and Dublin put Kerry to the sword there after. The pace and athleticism of the Dublin team is unreal, added into the fact that they are all great ball players. It will take some performance to beat them.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Lar Naparka on March 12, 2018, 11:18:46 AM
To be honest football is now like the all blacks playing all Ireland league teams .  They are at another level to every other team .  The authorities have created a monster .
The Dubs are loving lording it over Kerry. It was the other way around in the 80s. And it won't last forever.
seafoid, mo chara buan, sometimes you do live up to your handle and this is one of those times. ;D
Can you tell us why you think there is a connection between what happened in the 80s and what is happening now?
And while I'm at it, what makes you think Dublin's dominance won't last forever.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: highorlow on March 12, 2018, 11:58:20 AM
Quote
Kildare misses a bucket load of chances

They weren't really "chances", they were forced into pot shots by our defence. Delighted for the O'Donoghue lad to get back on track after the Dublin wake up call.

Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: straightred on March 12, 2018, 12:08:20 PM
To be honest football is now like the all blacks playing all Ireland league teams .  They are at another level to every other team .  The authorities have created a monster .
The Dubs are loving lording it over Kerry. It was the other way around in the 80s. And it won't last forever.
seafoid, mo chara buan, sometimes you do live up to your handle and this is one of those times. ;D
Can you tell us why you think there is a connection between what happened in the 80s and what is happening now?
And while I'm at it, what makes you think Dublin's dominance won't last forever.

its looking more and more probable.

They have enough talent to nearly put out 2 teams. With 3 super 8 games on 3 consecutive weekends that gives them great scope to mix it about and keep players fresh. Other counties will have to field their top 15 every week. If that wasn't enough the super 8s also gives the advantage to having a bad day and getting away with it. I know everyone has this but my feeling about the Dubs is that you might catch them out once but not twice. Its all set up nicely for them.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Maroon Manc on March 12, 2018, 12:10:54 PM
A far better second half after a poor opening half from Galway. Kickouts again a big issue in the first half, much better in the 2nd half but you'd expect that with a numerical advantage.

Shane Walsh is so frustrating, 3 bad wides yesterday; His general level of performance was good but he's going to have to learn to compose himself in front of the posts.

As for the pundits the level of negativity is way over the top, Galway aren't All Ireland contenders so the more games they get to play against the Dubs and especially in Croker Park the better.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: seafoid on March 12, 2018, 12:25:30 PM
To be honest football is now like the all blacks playing all Ireland league teams .  They are at another level to every other team .  The authorities have created a monster .
The Dubs are loving lording it over Kerry. It was the other way around in the 80s. And it won't last forever.
seafoid, mo chara buan, sometimes you do live up to your handle and this is one of those times. ;D
Can you tell us why you think there is a connection between what happened in the 80s and what is happening now?
And while I'm at it, what makes you think Dublin's dominance won't last forever.
Because Cody couldn't do it . Real Madrid can't do it 
I lived through the Kilkenny stranglehold and saw them in 3 all Ireland finals  They were operating at a higher level like the Dubs now. The more all Irelands the better they got. The more experience. The more insight. The more playing as a team. And the further away they got from the competition the further away individual players got from potential replacements. The team worked as a perfect machine  . You couldn't develop someone to replace Tommy Walsh . So they didn't. 
And the wheels fell off after the core players retired. The backs now need years to get back to the level of 2014. Success on that scale breeds guaranteed failure.

Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: An Fhairche Abu on March 12, 2018, 01:03:51 PM
Poorest performance of the league so far by Galway yesterday in the first half, weren't at the pitch of the game at all really I thought, some of the poor shot selections (e.g. Kyne) and mistakes (e.g. Brannigan double hop when in a good position) in the first 35 were not what they had displayed in the first four games where good economy in front of the posts was generally the norm, a lot of bad wides yesterday.
Monaghan were looking much the more likely winners heading into the tail end of the first half. The sending off completely changed the terms of engagement for the match and - to be fair - Galway exploited the man advantage very successfully in the second half.

What to do with Shane Walsh? Will he ever learn to just do the simple things well? You don't have to showcase your talent at all time, the easy pass or shot that 90% of players can execute is sometimes all that's necessary in a situation. It's getting to the point where it should have clicked for him at this stage, he's either going to be a 4/10 or a 9/10 depending on the day, a 7/10 every day might be more preferable. While harsh it was a bit of a mé feiner performance from him yesterday, it's just more frustrating when someone has the ability and doesn't execute I guess.
Overall again securing primary possession is a continuing problem, I don't know if the solution will be found this year by the looks of it, it's the one real killer looking to the summer, we'd give any team outside of the top 4 a game if this problem was fixed or at least mitigated to an extent that is wasn't the glaring problem.
It's good to have complaints while winning but I'm sure that it's the same things that the management and players are focussed on themselves. If you'd offered this set of results at the start of the league to any Galway football fan we'd have took the hand off you. Contrast Galway with our fellow 2017 Division 2 finalists, it might only be the league but there is nothing to be said for losing every week.
Kyne and Kerins played very well defensively yesterday, Heaney was also excellent I thought, what a superb score from the mark and long sideline run in the first half, if it was a Kerryman or Dub that scored it their media heads would be fawning over it. Comer was effective when in possession, Brannigan was back to decent form in the second half as well.

I'll be heading to Salthill with trepidation for next week but it's better that the weak links are fully exposed ahead of May 13th. People are talking about psychological damage from taking a pasting from Dublin but they battered Kerry by 12 (it could have been 18/20) yesterday and they can do it to any team.
I could be very wrong but I don't think there's any better prep for the team ahead of May 13th than two matches against the Dubs, trying to match them is the standard Mayo have lifted themselves to every year since 2012, this is where Galway are looking to get to.

Speaking of Dublin, I was in CP for the Dublin-Kerry match yesterday and the bottom line is that unless Mayo have a massive performance in a win or go home game next August/September against the Dubs, I can't see them being caught by anyone, they toyed with Kerry yesterday and taking into account the list of players that didn't tog out for them, it's hard to believe how far out in front of everyone they are in terms of quality throughout a squad.
The Galway lads will surely know what the gold standard to aspire to is after the league final on the 1st April, hopefully Galway Aprils Fools day related headlines on the match reports won't be what we're just looking at on the 2nd!
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Dinny Breen on March 12, 2018, 01:25:59 PM
Horrible b**tards! The whole lot of you.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Rossfan on March 12, 2018, 01:47:05 PM
To be honest football is now like the all blacks playing all Ireland league teams .  They are at another level to every other team .  The authorities have created a monster .
The Dubs are loving lording it over Kerry. It was the other way around in the 80s. And it won't last forever.
seafoid, mo chara buan, sometimes you do live up to your handle and this is one of those times. ;D
Can you tell us why you think there is a connection between what happened in the 80s and what is happening now?
And while I'm at it, what makes you think Dublin's dominance won't last forever.
Because Cody couldn't do it . Real Madrid can't do it 
I lived through the Kilkenny stranglehold and saw them in 3 all Ireland finals  They were operating at a higher level like the Dubs now. The more all Irelands the better they got. The more experience. The more insight. The more playing as a team. And the further away they got from the competition the further away individual players got from potential replacements. The team worked as a perfect machine  . You couldn't develop someone to replace Tommy Walsh . So they didn't. 
And the wheels fell off after the core players retired. The backs now need years to get back to the level of 2014. Success on that scale breeds guaranteed failure.
Because Kilkenny hasn't got 1.3m people!!!!
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: From the Bunker on March 12, 2018, 02:51:37 PM
To be honest football is now like the all blacks playing all Ireland league teams .  They are at another level to every other team .  The authorities have created a monster .
The Dubs are loving lording it over Kerry. It was the other way around in the 80s. And it won't last forever.
seafoid, mo chara buan, sometimes you do live up to your handle and this is one of those times. ;D
Can you tell us why you think there is a connection between what happened in the 80s and what is happening now?
And while I'm at it, what makes you think Dublin's dominance won't last forever.
Because Cody couldn't do it . Real Madrid can't do it 
I lived through the Kilkenny stranglehold and saw them in 3 all Ireland finals  They were operating at a higher level like the Dubs now. The more all Irelands the better they got. The more experience. The more insight. The more playing as a team. And the further away they got from the competition the further away individual players got from potential replacements. The team worked as a perfect machine  . You couldn't develop someone to replace Tommy Walsh . So they didn't. 
And the wheels fell off after the core players retired. The backs now need years to get back to the level of 2014. Success on that scale breeds guaranteed failure.
Because Kilkenny hasn't got 1.3m people!!!!

Kilkenny did not play all their games at home.

Kilkenny players worked for a living

Kilkenny did not get the financial support from the GAA Dublin receives

Kilkenny were not dominating at under 21

Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Lar Naparka on March 12, 2018, 02:53:12 PM
To be honest football is now like the all blacks playing all Ireland league teams .  They are at another level to every other team .  The authorities have created a monster .
The Dubs are loving lording it over Kerry. It was the other way around in the 80s. And it won't last forever.
seafoid, mo chara buan, sometimes you do live up to your handle and this is one of those times. ;D
Can you tell us why you think there is a connection between what happened in the 80s and what is happening now?
And while I'm at it, what makes you think Dublin's dominance won't last forever.
Because Cody couldn't do it . Real Madrid can't do it 
I lived through the Kilkenny stranglehold and saw them in 3 all Ireland finals  They were operating at a higher level like the Dubs now. The more all Irelands the better they got. The more experience. The more insight. The more playing as a team. And the further away they got from the competition the further away individual players got from potential replacements. The team worked as a perfect machine  . You couldn't develop someone to replace Tommy Walsh . So they didn't. 
And the wheels fell off after the core players retired. The backs now need years to get back to the level of 2014. Success on that scale breeds guaranteed failure.
Fair enough but Kilkenny didn't have any material advantage over their peers. Kilkenny has a population of less than 100,000 and has only 12 senior clubs. Dublin has a population of 1.345 million, which amounts to one third the population of the Irish Republic.
The Kilkenny county board was so piss poor that players had to stand outside churches one Sunday with plastic buckets to cadge money to pay for their own holiday abroad. They got beaten in the end, same as Kerry in the 80s, because they didn't have enough players of sufficient quality to replace the Tyrell and Shefflin, to name but two, when they had to make way for younger men.
Dublin has no problem whatever with younger players lining up to challenge for first team places. That will keep the older players on their toes and will ensure that there will be scraps for places from here to eternity. Ten of the team that beat Kerry in 2011 weren't first teamers in last year's final and yet we are asked to believe that Dublin's success can be put down to the excellence of the present players. When Cluckpo and Berno and Dermo and the likes retire, Dublin will be just another ordinary team again or so we are asked to believe.
That reminds me of Con Houlihan's grandfather's turf spade. According to legend, that particular sléan was still as good as the day it was bought over 100 years before. It only had three new handles and four new heads but it was still the same as ever.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: seafoid on March 12, 2018, 03:44:30 PM
To be honest football is now like the all blacks playing all Ireland league teams .  They are at another level to every other team .  The authorities have created a monster .
The Dubs are loving lording it over Kerry. It was the other way around in the 80s. And it won't last forever.
seafoid, mo chara buan, sometimes you do live up to your handle and this is one of those times. ;D
Can you tell us why you think there is a connection between what happened in the 80s and what is happening now?
And while I'm at it, what makes you think Dublin's dominance won't last forever.
Because Cody couldn't do it . Real Madrid can't do it 
I lived through the Kilkenny stranglehold and saw them in 3 all Ireland finals  They were operating at a higher level like the Dubs now. The more all Irelands the better they got. The more experience. The more insight. The more playing as a team. And the further away they got from the competition the further away individual players got from potential replacements. The team worked as a perfect machine  . You couldn't develop someone to replace Tommy Walsh . So they didn't. 
And the wheels fell off after the core players retired. The backs now need years to get back to the level of 2014. Success on that scale breeds guaranteed failure.
Fair enough but Kilkenny didn't have any material advantage over their peers. Kilkenny has a population of less than 100,000 and has only 12 senior clubs. Dublin has a population of 1.345 million, which amounts to one third the population of the Irish Republic.
The Kilkenny county board was so piss poor that players had to stand outside churches one Sunday with plastic buckets to cadge money to pay for their own holiday abroad. They got beaten in the end, same as Kerry in the 80s, because they didn't have enough players of sufficient quality to replace the Tyrell and Shefflin, to name but two, when they had to make way for younger men.
Dublin has no problem whatever with younger players lining up to challenge for first team places. That will keep the older players on their toes and will ensure that there will be scraps for places from here to eternity. Ten of the team that beat Kerry in 2011 weren't first teamers in last year's final and yet we are asked to believe that Dublin's success can be put down to the excellence of the present players. When Cluckpo and Berno and Dermo and the likes retire, Dublin will be just another ordinary team again or so we are asked to believe.
That reminds me of Con Houlihan's grandfather's turf spade. According to legend, that particular sléan was still as good as the day it was bought over 100 years before. It only had three new handles and four new heads but it was still the same as ever.
Large swathes of BAC are GAA wastelands so population means less than it does on paper.

There is a team sport dynamic that all great teams are subject to. Liverpool never got back winning League titles. AC Milan fell off their perch. So did Man Utd.

It is a pity Mayo didn't have 2 more scoring forwards that they could have nicked 2 or 3 of the Sams they played for. Other counties will emerge. That is the way it will always be. I am sure Kerry are not happy.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Hound on March 12, 2018, 04:12:37 PM

Kilkenny players worked for a living


where does this come from that Dublin players don't work?

there's plenty you can legitimately moan about without making up nonsense to make yourself look like an idiot.

Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Gael85 on March 12, 2018, 04:18:59 PM

Kilkenny players worked for a living


where does this come from that Dublin players don't work?

there's plenty you can legitimately moan about without making up nonsense to make yourself look like an idiot.

+1


Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Captain Obvious on March 12, 2018, 05:27:55 PM
Predictions

Dublin to beat Kerry
A narrow win for Tyrone v Donegal
Galway and Monaghan to draw a low scoring match
Mayo to beat Kildare

Not too far away. :)

Kildare v mayo could be the game of the weekend,it's do or die for kildare,a win gives them a chance while mayo have the cushion of Tyrone at home in there next match to garner a minimum 4pts.i expect Galway to beat Monahan in a tight game what odds on both finishing with 15?
Wins for Dublin and donegal.

Don't give up the day-job! ;)
Though Tyrone are more of a hedgehog than a cushion, Mayo will surely langer Tyrone senseless in the next round.
FoSB ?? a tyronite  who finally emerges , throwing shapes, after cowering in some some dark hole for months on end until rescued by Tyrone coming out on top in a relegation dogfight :)

Mayo are mentally strong which is important in GAA
they always push on and do enough to stay up
many teams just give up

Mayo stay up each year because they play stronger starting teams and are fitter for the latter rounds. With two games to play this Division one campaign looks done and dusted already.

Galway v Dublin league final and the only question is the margin of victory for the Dubs?
Kildare relegated and will be a big surprise if Donegal don't join them after that defeat to Tyrone at the weekend.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: TheGreatest on March 12, 2018, 05:34:52 PM
More crying and moaning I see.

Population was never an issue pre 2011 when Dublin received their annual hiding to the joy of the hoards outside the capital.

Always nice to beat the Kingdown who did similar to Dublin through the late 70s, 80s, 00s. Please check stats and figures. Swings and roundabouts

Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: easytiger95 on March 12, 2018, 05:44:28 PM

Kilkenny players worked for a living


where does this come from that Dublin players don't work?

there's plenty you can legitimately moan about without making up nonsense to make yourself look like an idiot.

This is about the tenth time this particular poster has dragged this point up from the fever swamps of the Dublin Dominance conspiracy theories.

Very hard to take when you see a load of them on the same commuter train day after day.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: larryin89 on March 12, 2018, 05:59:08 PM
This is why its just pure rubbish even debating with supporters , Dublin fans just believe they happen to come into a golden era because of trojan work done on the ground and above the ground. No extra finances were ever received , playing all their fooking home  league games as well as championship games in croke park is of absolutely no advantage . The super 8 stuff is on another level , I cant for the life of me get my
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Jell 0 Biafra on March 12, 2018, 06:18:52 PM
aaaaaaaaarrrrrrgggggggghhhhhhhhh...too angry....can't...finish.....sentence....
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Fear ón Srath Bán on March 12, 2018, 07:14:31 PM
Predictions

Dublin to beat Kerry
A narrow win for Tyrone v Donegal
Galway and Monaghan to draw a low scoring match
Mayo to beat Kildare

Not too far away. :)

Kildare v mayo could be the game of the weekend,it's do or die for kildare,a win gives them a chance while mayo have the cushion of Tyrone at home in there next match to garner a minimum 4pts.i expect Galway to beat Monahan in a tight game what odds on both finishing with 15?
Wins for Dublin and donegal.

Don't give up the day-job! ;)
Though Tyrone are more of a hedgehog than a cushion, Mayo will surely langer Tyrone senseless in the next round.
FoSB ?? a tyronite  who finally emerges , throwing shapes, after cowering in some some dark hole for months on end until rescued by Tyrone coming out on top in a relegation dogfight :)

Says the mid-Mon buachaill whose highlight of 2018 so far has been the beating of a Tyrone team in 'Blayney who barely turned up :P

Bring on the first round of the Ulster, till we see who's spouting what :) 
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Therealdonald on March 12, 2018, 07:35:23 PM

Kilkenny players worked for a living


where does this come from that Dublin players don't work?

there's plenty you can legitimately moan about without making up nonsense to make yourself look like an idiot.

This is about the tenth time this particular poster has dragged this point up from the fever swamps of the Dublin Dominance conspiracy theories.

Very hard to take when you see a load of them on the same commuter train day after day.

They're probably going to their mid-day training session.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Mayo Club 51 on March 12, 2018, 10:17:45 PM
Div 1 league table after rd5


Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Wildweasel74 on March 12, 2018, 10:24:06 PM
What are the dublin pen pics out of interest.?
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Lar Naparka on March 12, 2018, 10:26:11 PM
To be honest football is now like the all blacks playing all Ireland league teams .  They are at another level to every other team .  The authorities have created a monster .
The Dubs are loving lording it over Kerry. It was the other way around in the 80s. And it won't last forever.
seafoid, mo chara buan, sometimes you do live up to your handle and this is one of those times. ;D
Can you tell us why you think there is a connection between what happened in the 80s and what is happening now?
And while I'm at it, what makes you think Dublin's dominance won't last forever.
Because Cody couldn't do it . Real Madrid can't do it 
I lived through the Kilkenny stranglehold and saw them in 3 all Ireland finals  They were operating at a higher level like the Dubs now. The more all Irelands the better they got. The more experience. The more insight. The more playing as a team. And the further away they got from the competition the further away individual players got from potential replacements. The team worked as a perfect machine  . You couldn't develop someone to replace Tommy Walsh . So they didn't. 
And the wheels fell off after the core players retired. The backs now need years to get back to the level of 2014. Success on that scale breeds guaranteed failure.
Fair enough but Kilkenny didn't have any material advantage over their peers. Kilkenny has a population of less than 100,000 and has only 12 senior clubs. Dublin has a population of 1.345 million, which amounts to one third the population of the Irish Republic.
The Kilkenny county board was so piss poor that players had to stand outside churches one Sunday with plastic buckets to cadge money to pay for their own holiday abroad. They got beaten in the end, same as Kerry in the 80s, because they didn't have enough players of sufficient quality to replace the Tyrell and Shefflin, to name but two, when they had to make way for younger men.
Dublin has no problem whatever with younger players lining up to challenge for first team places. That will keep the older players on their toes and will ensure that there will be scraps for places from here to eternity. Ten of the team that beat Kerry in 2011 weren't first teamers in last year's final and yet we are asked to believe that Dublin's success can be put down to the excellence of the present players. When Cluckpo and Berno and Dermo and the likes retire, Dublin will be just another ordinary team again or so we are asked to believe.
That reminds me of Con Houlihan's grandfather's turf spade. According to legend, that particular sléan was still as good as the day it was bought over 100 years before. It only had three new handles and four new heads but it was still the same as ever.
Large swathes of BAC are GAA wastelands so population means less than it does on paper.

There is a team sport dynamic that all great teams are subject to. Liverpool never got back winning League titles. AC Milan fell off their perch. So did Man Utd.

It is a pity Mayo didn't have 2 more scoring forwards that they could have nicked 2 or 3 of the Sams they played for. Other counties will emerge. That is the way it will always be. I am sure Kerry are not happy.
What I’ve bolded is the main cause of concern for Dublin’s officialdom and for the GAA in general. In simple terms, the future of the Association is under more threat in Dublin than anywhere else in the country and present attempts to address this are doing as much long term harm as good.
In spite of the senior team’s high profile, the Gah in the capital is losing market share and this is why John Costello made such an impassioned plea for more money, even if that means leaving everywhere else short in his last report to the county’s AGM.
But, and this is crucial, the development grant aid that other counties crib about is not being spent to best effect. The emphasis is on developing young players’ skill levels, which is fair enough but those schemes aren’t designed to attract an uncommitted youngster to join any club.
The population of Dublin increased by 17% between the census years of 2011 and 2016 but there was no such increase in the number of clubs or registered players in the county.
I asked a few questions about this some weeks ago and the only new club anyone could think of was Tyrellstown and it seems that one is in danger of losing its pitches.
As far as I can see, the high profile of the current senior hasn’t brought about a significant increase in the numbers wanting to join clubs.
When you have just one team to represent around one third of the population in the republic, you can’t expect large scale support from the general public.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Jinxy on March 13, 2018, 12:21:51 AM

Kilkenny players worked for a living


where does this come from that Dublin players don't work?

there's plenty you can legitimately moan about without making up nonsense to make yourself look like an idiot.

This is about the tenth time this particular poster has dragged this point up from the fever swamps of the Dublin Dominance conspiracy theories.

Very hard to take when you see a load of them on the same commuter train day after day.

I heard they all get sponsored Leap cards.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Maroon Manc on March 13, 2018, 10:03:29 AM
Poorest performance of the league so far by Galway yesterday in the first half, weren't at the pitch of the game at all really I thought, some of the poor shot selections (e.g. Kyne) and mistakes (e.g. Brannigan double hop when in a good position) in the first 35 were not what they had displayed in the first four games where good economy in front of the posts was generally the norm, a lot of bad wides yesterday.
Monaghan were looking much the more likely winners heading into the tail end of the first half. The sending off completely changed the terms of engagement for the match and - to be fair - Galway exploited the man advantage very successfully in the second half.

What to do with Shane Walsh? Will he ever learn to just do the simple things well? You don't have to showcase your talent at all time, the easy pass or shot that 90% of players can execute is sometimes all that's necessary in a situation. It's getting to the point where it should have clicked for him at this stage, he's either going to be a 4/10 or a 9/10 depending on the day, a 7/10 every day might be more preferable. While harsh it was a bit of a mé feiner performance from him yesterday, it's just more frustrating when someone has the ability and doesn't execute I guess.
Overall again securing primary possession is a continuing problem, I don't know if the solution will be found this year by the looks of it, it's the one real killer looking to the summer, we'd give any team outside of the top 4 a game if this problem was fixed or at least mitigated to an extent that is wasn't the glaring problem.
It's good to have complaints while winning but I'm sure that it's the same things that the management and players are focussed on themselves. If you'd offered this set of results at the start of the league to any Galway football fan we'd have took the hand off you. Contrast Galway with our fellow 2017 Division 2 finalists, it might only be the league but there is nothing to be said for losing every week.
Kyne and Kerins played very well defensively yesterday, Heaney was also excellent I thought, what a superb score from the mark and long sideline run in the first half, if it was a Kerryman or Dub that scored it their media heads would be fawning over it. Comer was effective when in possession, Brannigan was back to decent form in the second half as well.

I'll be heading to Salthill with trepidation for next week but it's better that the weak links are fully exposed ahead of May 13th. People are talking about psychological damage from taking a pasting from Dublin but they battered Kerry by 12 (it could have been 18/20) yesterday and they can do it to any team.
I could be very wrong but I don't think there's any better prep for the team ahead of May 13th than two matches against the Dubs, trying to match them is the standard Mayo have lifted themselves to every year since 2012, this is where Galway are looking to get to.

Speaking of Dublin, I was in CP for the Dublin-Kerry match yesterday and the bottom line is that unless Mayo have a massive performance in a win or go home game next August/September against the Dubs, I can't see them being caught by anyone, they toyed with Kerry yesterday and taking into account the list of players that didn't tog out for them, it's hard to believe how far out in front of everyone they are in terms of quality throughout a squad.
The Galway lads will surely know what the gold standard to aspire to is after the league final on the 1st April, hopefully Galway Aprils Fools day related headlines on the match reports won't be what we're just looking at on the 2nd!

Spot on as usual, would have too see some stats but thought their was their was a slight improvement on kickouts in the first half or more likely it was my imagination. There's no point in over analysing the 2nd half kickouts because of the extra man. The 2nd half did show that when Galway applied more pressure to Monaghans kickouts they did well on them and got plenty of scores as a direct result of winning them. I'm expecting Galway to really struggle for possession on Sunday which should lead to a comfortable Dublin win, I'm hoping this will lead to a change in strategy going forward with the kickouts.

It appears its only Galway who will suffer from a hammering by the Dubs, they've dished out hidings to practically everyone the last few years but its only it appears its only Galway who will suffer a huge psychological blow because of it. If Galway get beat by Mayo on the May the 13th it won't be down to two hammerings at the hands of the Dubs.

This is a young Galway panel who hopefully in a couple of years with 3 or 4 more additions may have a chance of challenging for the big prize.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: dublin7 on March 13, 2018, 10:42:41 AM
What are the dublin pen pics out of interest.?

For what it's worth here's a few of them:

Cluxton=secondary school teacher
MacCauley=primary school teacher
O'Sullivan=tax consultant for PWC
Fenton=physio

They're all on the Dublin website for anyone interested. Also provides details of medals won so anyone can do a cost per medal for each player if they want for their arguments for financial doping
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: From the Bunker on March 13, 2018, 10:46:21 AM
Poorest performance of the league so far by Galway yesterday in the first half, weren't at the pitch of the game at all really I thought, some of the poor shot selections (e.g. Kyne) and mistakes (e.g. Brannigan double hop when in a good position) in the first 35 were not what they had displayed in the first four games where good economy in front of the posts was generally the norm, a lot of bad wides yesterday.
Monaghan were looking much the more likely winners heading into the tail end of the first half. The sending off completely changed the terms of engagement for the match and - to be fair - Galway exploited the man advantage very successfully in the second half.

What to do with Shane Walsh? Will he ever learn to just do the simple things well? You don't have to showcase your talent at all time, the easy pass or shot that 90% of players can execute is sometimes all that's necessary in a situation. It's getting to the point where it should have clicked for him at this stage, he's either going to be a 4/10 or a 9/10 depending on the day, a 7/10 every day might be more preferable. While harsh it was a bit of a mé feiner performance from him yesterday, it's just more frustrating when someone has the ability and doesn't execute I guess.
Overall again securing primary possession is a continuing problem, I don't know if the solution will be found this year by the looks of it, it's the one real killer looking to the summer, we'd give any team outside of the top 4 a game if this problem was fixed or at least mitigated to an extent that is wasn't the glaring problem.
It's good to have complaints while winning but I'm sure that it's the same things that the management and players are focussed on themselves. If you'd offered this set of results at the start of the league to any Galway football fan we'd have took the hand off you. Contrast Galway with our fellow 2017 Division 2 finalists, it might only be the league but there is nothing to be said for losing every week.
Kyne and Kerins played very well defensively yesterday, Heaney was also excellent I thought, what a superb score from the mark and long sideline run in the first half, if it was a Kerryman or Dub that scored it their media heads would be fawning over it. Comer was effective when in possession, Brannigan was back to decent form in the second half as well.

I'll be heading to Salthill with trepidation for next week but it's better that the weak links are fully exposed ahead of May 13th. People are talking about psychological damage from taking a pasting from Dublin but they battered Kerry by 12 (it could have been 18/20) yesterday and they can do it to any team.
I could be very wrong but I don't think there's any better prep for the team ahead of May 13th than two matches against the Dubs, trying to match them is the standard Mayo have lifted themselves to every year since 2012, this is where Galway are looking to get to.

Speaking of Dublin, I was in CP for the Dublin-Kerry match yesterday and the bottom line is that unless Mayo have a massive performance in a win or go home game next August/September against the Dubs, I can't see them being caught by anyone, they toyed with Kerry yesterday and taking into account the list of players that didn't tog out for them, it's hard to believe how far out in front of everyone they are in terms of quality throughout a squad.
The Galway lads will surely know what the gold standard to aspire to is after the league final on the 1st April, hopefully Galway Aprils Fools day related headlines on the match reports won't be what we're just looking at on the 2nd!

Spot on as usual, would have too see some stats but thought their was their was a slight improvement on kickouts in the first half or more likely it was my imagination. There's no point in over analysing the 2nd half kickouts because of the extra man. The 2nd half did show that when Galway applied more pressure to Monaghans kickouts they did well on them and got plenty of scores as a direct result of winning them. I'm expecting Galway to really struggle for possession on Sunday which should lead to a comfortable Dublin win, I'm hoping this will lead to a change in strategy going forward with the kickouts.

It appears its only Galway who will suffer from a hammering by the Dubs, they've dished out hidings to practically everyone the last few years but its only it appears its only Galway who will suffer a huge psychological blow because of it. If Galway get beat by Mayo on the May the 13th it won't be down to two hammerings at the hands of the Dubs.

This is a young Galway panel who hopefully in a couple of years with 3 or 4 more additions may have a chance of challenging for the big prize.

I would not be so sure! Heavy defeats can be soul destroying especially for defenders!
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Hound on March 13, 2018, 10:48:28 AM
This is why its just pure rubbish even debating with supporters , Dublin fans just believe they happen to come into a golden era because of trojan work done on the ground and above the ground. No extra finances were ever received , playing all their fooking home  league games as well as championship games in croke park is of absolutely no advantage . The super 8 stuff is on another level , I cant for the life of me get my

Moaning about a debate, then completely ignoring the issue that was being disagreed!

Do you believe Dublin players don't work? Do you believe, for example, Cluxton and Macauley arent schoolteachers? That they were both so good on Sunday because of the millions pumped into Dublin?

The money is a complete red herring. That goes into grassroots to help participation. Yes, you could argue that it helps keep more young lads in GAA rather than rugby and soccer, but it doesn't make our good lads better.
Do you believe had Con O'Callaghan's father stayed in Westmeath that he'd be any worse a player? (He'd arguably be better because he may not have spend so much of his time with a hurl!)
Do you believe had John Heslin's dad moved to Dublin, that Heslin would be an even better player?
It's volunteers that coached those two lads, in both counties. Development squads in Dublin coached by unpaid past players doing "trojan work".

Of course we have a big advantage with population, even if there are large pockets of Dublin with zero interest. And the population is only going one way. That's not Dublin's fault that most of the best jobs in the country seem to be here, so its makes training for other counties so much harder with so many of their players working here.

We have a great bunch of players, who play their hearts out every time they put on the jersey. Some have superb natural god given talents, and others like Macauley have got to where they are through hard graft. I know many like to put them down and belittle their achievements, but that's up to them. Probably just drives the lads on even more.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Cunny Funt on March 13, 2018, 11:28:55 AM
Poorest performance of the league so far by Galway yesterday in the first half, weren't at the pitch of the game at all really I thought, some of the poor shot selections (e.g. Kyne) and mistakes (e.g. Brannigan double hop when in a good position) in the first 35 were not what they had displayed in the first four games where good economy in front of the posts was generally the norm, a lot of bad wides yesterday.
Monaghan were looking much the more likely winners heading into the tail end of the first half. The sending off completely changed the terms of engagement for the match and - to be fair - Galway exploited the man advantage very successfully in the second half.

What to do with Shane Walsh? Will he ever learn to just do the simple things well? You don't have to showcase your talent at all time, the easy pass or shot that 90% of players can execute is sometimes all that's necessary in a situation. It's getting to the point where it should have clicked for him at this stage, he's either going to be a 4/10 or a 9/10 depending on the day, a 7/10 every day might be more preferable. While harsh it was a bit of a mé feiner performance from him yesterday, it's just more frustrating when someone has the ability and doesn't execute I guess.
Overall again securing primary possession is a continuing problem, I don't know if the solution will be found this year by the looks of it, it's the one real killer looking to the summer, we'd give any team outside of the top 4 a game if this problem was fixed or at least mitigated to an extent that is wasn't the glaring problem.
It's good to have complaints while winning but I'm sure that it's the same things that the management and players are focussed on themselves. If you'd offered this set of results at the start of the league to any Galway football fan we'd have took the hand off you. Contrast Galway with our fellow 2017 Division 2 finalists, it might only be the league but there is nothing to be said for losing every week.
Kyne and Kerins played very well defensively yesterday, Heaney was also excellent I thought, what a superb score from the mark and long sideline run in the first half, if it was a Kerryman or Dub that scored it their media heads would be fawning over it. Comer was effective when in possession, Brannigan was back to decent form in the second half as well.

I'll be heading to Salthill with trepidation for next week but it's better that the weak links are fully exposed ahead of May 13th. People are talking about psychological damage from taking a pasting from Dublin but they battered Kerry by 12 (it could have been 18/20) yesterday and they can do it to any team.
I could be very wrong but I don't think there's any better prep for the team ahead of May 13th than two matches against the Dubs, trying to match them is the standard Mayo have lifted themselves to every year since 2012, this is where Galway are looking to get to.

Speaking of Dublin, I was in CP for the Dublin-Kerry match yesterday and the bottom line is that unless Mayo have a massive performance in a win or go home game next August/September against the Dubs, I can't see them being caught by anyone, they toyed with Kerry yesterday and taking into account the list of players that didn't tog out for them, it's hard to believe how far out in front of everyone they are in terms of quality throughout a squad.
The Galway lads will surely know what the gold standard to aspire to is after the league final on the 1st April, hopefully Galway Aprils Fools day related headlines on the match reports won't be what we're just looking at on the 2nd!

Spot on as usual, would have too see some stats but thought their was their was a slight improvement on kickouts in the first half or more likely it was my imagination. There's no point in over analysing the 2nd half kickouts because of the extra man. The 2nd half did show that when Galway applied more pressure to Monaghans kickouts they did well on them and got plenty of scores as a direct result of winning them. I'm expecting Galway to really struggle for possession on Sunday which should lead to a comfortable Dublin win, I'm hoping this will lead to a change in strategy going forward with the kickouts.

It appears its only Galway who will suffer from a hammering by the Dubs, they've dished out hidings to practically everyone the last few years but its only it appears its only Galway who will suffer a huge psychological blow because of it. If Galway get beat by Mayo on the May the 13th it won't be down to two hammerings at the hands of the Dubs.

This is a young Galway panel who hopefully in a couple of years with 3 or 4 more additions may have a chance of challenging for the big prize.

I would not be so sure! Heavy defeats can be soul destroying especially for defenders!
Has anyone the view that Galway might go on and win this league title? Kerry this time last year fell into the final their form wasnt great while Galway have strolled into the final with a few games to spare. I suppose it all depends what is Galways plan B if and when Dublin break down their defensive system.

Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Dinny Breen on March 13, 2018, 11:30:21 AM
There you have it. Money makes no difference, it's all natural god given talent and hard work.

Every other county needs to work harder.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Orchard park on March 13, 2018, 11:38:31 AM
To be honest football is now like the all blacks playing all Ireland league teams .  They are at another level to every other team .  The authorities have created a monster .
The Dubs are loving lording it over Kerry. It was the other way around in the 80s. And it won't last forever.
seafoid, mo chara buan, sometimes you do live up to your handle and this is one of those times. ;D
Can you tell us why you think there is a connection between what happened in the 80s and what is happening now?
And while I'm at it, what makes you think Dublin's dominance won't last forever.
Because Cody couldn't do it . Real Madrid can't do it 
I lived through the Kilkenny stranglehold and saw them in 3 all Ireland finals  They were operating at a higher level like the Dubs now. The more all Irelands the better they got. The more experience. The more insight. The more playing as a team. And the further away they got from the competition the further away individual players got from potential replacements. The team worked as a perfect machine  . You couldn't develop someone to replace Tommy Walsh . So they didn't. 
And the wheels fell off after the core players retired. The backs now need years to get back to the level of 2014. Success on that scale breeds guaranteed failure.
Fair enough but Kilkenny didn't have any material advantage over their peers. Kilkenny has a population of less than 100,000 and has only 12 senior clubs. Dublin has a population of 1.345 million, which amounts to one third the population of the Irish Republic.
The Kilkenny county board was so piss poor that players had to stand outside churches one Sunday with plastic buckets to cadge money to pay for their own holiday abroad. They got beaten in the end, same as Kerry in the 80s, because they didn't have enough players of sufficient quality to replace the Tyrell and Shefflin, to name but two, when they had to make way for younger men.
Dublin has no problem whatever with younger players lining up to challenge for first team places. That will keep the older players on their toes and will ensure that there will be scraps for places from here to eternity. Ten of the team that beat Kerry in 2011 weren't first teamers in last year's final and yet we are asked to believe that Dublin's success can be put down to the excellence of the present players. When Cluckpo and Berno and Dermo and the likes retire, Dublin will be just another ordinary team again or so we are asked to believe.
That reminds me of Con Houlihan's grandfather's turf spade. According to legend, that particular sléan was still as good as the day it was bought over 100 years before. It only had three new handles and four new heads but it was still the same as ever.
Large swathes of BAC are GAA wastelands so population means less than it does on paper.

There is a team sport dynamic that all great teams are subject to. Liverpool never got back winning League titles. AC Milan fell off their perch. So did Man Utd.

It is a pity Mayo didn't have 2 more scoring forwards that they could have nicked 2 or 3 of the Sams they played for. Other counties will emerge. That is the way it will always be. I am sure Kerry are not happy.
What I’ve bolded is the main cause of concern for Dublin’s officialdom and for the GAA in general. In simple terms, the future of the Association is under more threat in Dublin than anywhere else in the country and present attempts to address this are doing as much long term harm as good.
In spite of the senior team’s high profile, the Gah in the capital is losing market share and this is why John Costello made such an impassioned plea for more money, even if that means leaving everywhere else short in his last report to the county’s AGM.
But, and this is crucial, the development grant aid that other counties crib about is not being spent to best effect. The emphasis is on developing young players’ skill levels, which is fair enough but those schemes aren’t designed to attract an uncommitted youngster to join any club.
The population of Dublin increased by 17% between the census years of 2011 and 2016 but there was no such increase in the number of clubs or registered players in the county.
I asked a few questions about this some weeks ago and the only new club anyone could think of was Tyrellstown and it seems that one is in danger of losing its pitches.
As far as I can see, the high profile of the current senior hasn’t brought about a significant increase in the numbers wanting to join clubs.
When you have just one team to represent around one third of the population in the republic, you can’t expect large scale support from the general public.

I think you are wrong on this part, there is an annual increase year on year from 2011 onwards in numbers of registered players, with the majority of the increase being juvenile.

i agree wit you the regards the lack of new clubs but the existing large clubs are mushrooming further
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Jinxy on March 13, 2018, 11:40:20 AM
What are the dublin pen pics out of interest.?

For what it's worth here's a few of them:

Cluxton=secondary school teacher
MacCauley=primary school teacher
O'Sullivan=tax consultant for PWC
Fenton=physio

They're all on the Dublin website for anyone interested. Also provides details of medals won so anyone can do a cost per medal for each player if they want for their arguments for financial doping

What about McCaffrey and Fitzsimmons doing mickey mouse medical degrees?
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: Rossfan on March 13, 2018, 11:48:47 AM
There you have it. Money makes no difference, it's all natural god given talent and hard work.

Every other county needs to work harder.
Them lazy hoors in Fermanagh, Laythrum and Longford.
They could have 2 or 3 All Irelands each if they'd only put in the effort.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: An Fhairche Abu on March 13, 2018, 12:35:06 PM
Poorest performance of the league so far by Galway yesterday in the first half, weren't at the pitch of the game at all really I thought, some of the poor shot selections (e.g. Kyne) and mistakes (e.g. Brannigan double hop when in a good position) in the first 35 were not what they had displayed in the first four games where good economy in front of the posts was generally the norm, a lot of bad wides yesterday.
Monaghan were looking much the more likely winners heading into the tail end of the first half. The sending off completely changed the terms of engagement for the match and - to be fair - Galway exploited the man advantage very successfully in the second half.

What to do with Shane Walsh? Will he ever learn to just do the simple things well? You don't have to showcase your talent at all time, the easy pass or shot that 90% of players can execute is sometimes all that's necessary in a situation. It's getting to the point where it should have clicked for him at this stage, he's either going to be a 4/10 or a 9/10 depending on the day, a 7/10 every day might be more preferable. While harsh it was a bit of a mé feiner performance from him yesterday, it's just more frustrating when someone has the ability and doesn't execute I guess.
Overall again securing primary possession is a continuing problem, I don't know if the solution will be found this year by the looks of it, it's the one real killer looking to the summer, we'd give any team outside of the top 4 a game if this problem was fixed or at least mitigated to an extent that is wasn't the glaring problem.
It's good to have complaints while winning but I'm sure that it's the same things that the management and players are focussed on themselves. If you'd offered this set of results at the start of the league to any Galway football fan we'd have took the hand off you. Contrast Galway with our fellow 2017 Division 2 finalists, it might only be the league but there is nothing to be said for losing every week.
Kyne and Kerins played very well defensively yesterday, Heaney was also excellent I thought, what a superb score from the mark and long sideline run in the first half, if it was a Kerryman or Dub that scored it their media heads would be fawning over it. Comer was effective when in possession, Brannigan was back to decent form in the second half as well.

I'll be heading to Salthill with trepidation for next week but it's better that the weak links are fully exposed ahead of May 13th. People are talking about psychological damage from taking a pasting from Dublin but they battered Kerry by 12 (it could have been 18/20) yesterday and they can do it to any team.
I could be very wrong but I don't think there's any better prep for the team ahead of May 13th than two matches against the Dubs, trying to match them is the standard Mayo have lifted themselves to every year since 2012, this is where Galway are looking to get to.

Speaking of Dublin, I was in CP for the Dublin-Kerry match yesterday and the bottom line is that unless Mayo have a massive performance in a win or go home game next August/September against the Dubs, I can't see them being caught by anyone, they toyed with Kerry yesterday and taking into account the list of players that didn't tog out for them, it's hard to believe how far out in front of everyone they are in terms of quality throughout a squad.
The Galway lads will surely know what the gold standard to aspire to is after the league final on the 1st April, hopefully Galway Aprils Fools day related headlines on the match reports won't be what we're just looking at on the 2nd!

Spot on as usual, would have too see some stats but thought their was their was a slight improvement on kickouts in the first half or more likely it was my imagination. There's no point in over analysing the 2nd half kickouts because of the extra man. The 2nd half did show that when Galway applied more pressure to Monaghans kickouts they did well on them and got plenty of scores as a direct result of winning them. I'm expecting Galway to really struggle for possession on Sunday which should lead to a comfortable Dublin win, I'm hoping this will lead to a change in strategy going forward with the kickouts.

It appears its only Galway who will suffer from a hammering by the Dubs, they've dished out hidings to practically everyone the last few years but its only it appears its only Galway who will suffer a huge psychological blow because of it. If Galway get beat by Mayo on the May the 13th it won't be down to two hammerings at the hands of the Dubs.

This is a young Galway panel who hopefully in a couple of years with 3 or 4 more additions may have a chance of challenging for the big prize.

I would not be so sure! Heavy defeats can be soul destroying especially for defenders!

If they ship two heavy defeats what is the soul destroying revelation? That Galway are not as good as Dublin and way off the standard of their team and squad? We all know what already.
What happens if it doesn't go as bad as expected? Does that mean that Galway are then nailed on to beat Mayo given that Mayo are not as good as Dublin? Of course not. Galway are a long way off Dublin but what's the point of being in Division One if they don't learn by experience playing against the best team in the country.

I agree 100% with Maroon Manc, the results against Dublin next Sunday and on Easter Sunday will have nothing to do with whether we can overcome Mayo in Castlebar in May.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on March 13, 2018, 12:53:18 PM
Poorest performance of the league so far by Galway yesterday in the first half, weren't at the pitch of the game at all really I thought, some of the poor shot selections (e.g. Kyne) and mistakes (e.g. Brannigan double hop when in a good position) in the first 35 were not what they had displayed in the first four games where good economy in front of the posts was generally the norm, a lot of bad wides yesterday.
Monaghan were looking much the more likely winners heading into the tail end of the first half. The sending off completely changed the terms of engagement for the match and - to be fair - Galway exploited the man advantage very successfully in the second half.

What to do with Shane Walsh? Will he ever learn to just do the simple things well? You don't have to showcase your talent at all time, the easy pass or shot that 90% of players can execute is sometimes all that's necessary in a situation. It's getting to the point where it should have clicked for him at this stage, he's either going to be a 4/10 or a 9/10 depending on the day, a 7/10 every day might be more preferable. While harsh it was a bit of a mé feiner performance from him yesterday, it's just more frustrating when someone has the ability and doesn't execute I guess.
Overall again securing primary possession is a continuing problem, I don't know if the solution will be found this year by the looks of it, it's the one real killer looking to the summer, we'd give any team outside of the top 4 a game if this problem was fixed or at least mitigated to an extent that is wasn't the glaring problem.
It's good to have complaints while winning but I'm sure that it's the same things that the management and players are focussed on themselves. If you'd offered this set of results at the start of the league to any Galway football fan we'd have took the hand off you. Contrast Galway with our fellow 2017 Division 2 finalists, it might only be the league but there is nothing to be said for losing every week.
Kyne and Kerins played very well defensively yesterday, Heaney was also excellent I thought, what a superb score from the mark and long sideline run in the first half, if it was a Kerryman or Dub that scored it their media heads would be fawning over it. Comer was effective when in possession, Brannigan was back to decent form in the second half as well.

I'll be heading to Salthill with trepidation for next week but it's better that the weak links are fully exposed ahead of May 13th. People are talking about psychological damage from taking a pasting from Dublin but they battered Kerry by 12 (it could have been 18/20) yesterday and they can do it to any team.
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