Tyrone County Football and Hurling

Started by Fear ón Srath Bán, April 01, 2007, 05:58:31 PM

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sam03/05

Surely with split season they are missing out on very little anyway
Except 4 starred games if Tyrone get to AI semi final

smort

Missing out on club football mustn't be the reason

nrico2006

Training flat out multiple nights a week and not getting playing is the reason - straightforward enough.
'To the extreme I rock a mic like a vandal, light up a stage and wax a chump like a candle.'

toby47

Quote from: sam03/05 on March 09, 2022, 05:10:44 PM
Surely with split season they are missing out on very little anyway
Except 4 starred games if Tyrone get to AI semi final

Go read Ronan O'Neill's interview in the Irish News from the time he quit.

Missing 4 league games is probably the least of these guys worries, their used to missing club action year after year. Missing family members/best mates stags, weddings and numerous other events to train 5/6 nights a week when not even making match day panels is borderline lunacy. It can also lead to young fella's being in a bad head space. Easy for us to say 'why would he quit, loads of fella's would love to play for their county.' County football is a full time lifestyle, why give that much effort into something if you aren't getting any game time at all or its effecting your life negatively?

Your 20's are probably the best years of your lives, you wouldn't want to look back and say you gave them up for a few McKenna cup games & to be used for in-house games. That's alright for a few years when you are first breaking on, but there has to be a point where you have to make the decision. A few of them also probably thought they would get more game time after a change in management, however once a 2nd management team comes in and your situation doesn't change, the writing is probably on the wall.

Ronan O Neill didn't make the 26 man panel for AI final.
Lee Brennan's last championship appearance was 2018 AI final vs Dublin.
Mark Bradley came on in 76th min in Ai semi vs Kerry and didn't get on in the final.
Tiernan McCann got 14mins between the Semi final & Final.
HP McGeary barely got a kick all year.
Rory Brennan hasn't played since the Ulster Final last year.

TyroneOnlooker

Quote from: toby47 on March 10, 2022, 08:30:44 AM
Quote from: sam03/05 on March 09, 2022, 05:10:44 PM
Surely with split season they are missing out on very little anyway
Except 4 starred games if Tyrone get to AI semi final

Go read Ronan O'Neill's interview in the Irish News from the time he quit.

Missing 4 league games is probably the least of these guys worries, their used to missing club action year after year. Missing family members/best mates stags, weddings and numerous other events to train 5/6 nights a week when not even making match day panels is borderline lunacy. It can also lead to young fella's being in a bad head space. Easy for us to say 'why would he quit, loads of fella's would love to play for their county.' County football is a full time lifestyle, why give that much effort into something if you aren't getting any game time at all or its effecting your life negatively?

Your 20's are probably the best years of your lives, you wouldn't want to look back and say you gave them up for a few McKenna cup games & to be used for in-house games. That's alright for a few years when you are first breaking on, but there has to be a point where you have to make the decision. A few of them also probably thought they would get more game time after a change in management, however once a 2nd management team comes in and your situation doesn't change, the writing is probably on the wall.

Ronan O Neill didn't make the 26 man panel for AI final.
Lee Brennan's last championship appearance was 2018 AI final vs Dublin.
Mark Bradley came on in 76th min in Ai semi vs Kerry and didn't get on in the final.
Tiernan McCann got 14mins between the Semi final & Final.
HP McGeary barely got a kick all year.
Rory Brennan hasn't played since the Ulster Final last year.

No argument with any of that but it essentially means you are left with a core 15-18 of starters/first subs and then 10-12 rookies making up the remainder of the squad trying to break into that 15-18. Our bench this year is certainly the weaker for it and that ultimately will be the difference in big games later in the year.

Mikhailov

Quote from: toby47 on March 10, 2022, 08:30:44 AM
Quote from: sam03/05 on March 09, 2022, 05:10:44 PM
Surely with split season they are missing out on very little anyway
Except 4 starred games if Tyrone get to AI semi final

Go read Ronan O'Neill's interview in the Irish News from the time he quit.

Missing 4 league games is probably the least of these guys worries, their used to missing club action year after year. Missing family members/best mates stags, weddings and numerous other events to train 5/6 nights a week when not even making match day panels is borderline lunacy. It can also lead to young fella's being in a bad head space. Easy for us to say 'why would he quit, loads of fella's would love to play for their county.' County football is a full time lifestyle, why give that much effort into something if you aren't getting any game time at all or its effecting your life negatively?

Your 20's are probably the best years of your lives, you wouldn't want to look back and say you gave them up for a few McKenna cup games & to be used for in-house games. That's alright for a few years when you are first breaking on, but there has to be a point where you have to make the decision. A few of them also probably thought they would get more game time after a change in management, however once a 2nd management team comes in and your situation doesn't change, the writing is probably on the wall.

Ronan O Neill didn't make the 26 man panel for AI final.
Lee Brennan's last championship appearance was 2018 AI final vs Dublin.
Mark Bradley came on in 76th min in Ai semi vs Kerry and didn't get on in the final.
Tiernan McCann got 14mins between the Semi final & Final.
HP McGeary barely got a kick all year.
Rory Brennan hasn't played since the Ulster Final last year.

Good post Toby47

Very hard to argue with any of that. The reality is that club football is going this way also. The fringe players who are caught in middle getting limited football for their senior set up but withheld from reserve games end up getting frustrated and as a result don't hang about. Not every club has this issue but it becoming a more common issue.
GAA at the top level (at club or county level) takes over your life and a lot of young lads in their early 20's have missed out on a lot (travel, socialising etc) in the last few years. Commitment going forward may be an issue unless you are guaranteed a starting slot in your respective team 

bogball88

Quote from: Mikhailov on March 10, 2022, 11:18:18 AM
Quote from: toby47 on March 10, 2022, 08:30:44 AM
Quote from: sam03/05 on March 09, 2022, 05:10:44 PM
Surely with split season they are missing out on very little anyway
Except 4 starred games if Tyrone get to AI semi final

Go read Ronan O'Neill's interview in the Irish News from the time he quit.

Missing 4 league games is probably the least of these guys worries, their used to missing club action year after year. Missing family members/best mates stags, weddings and numerous other events to train 5/6 nights a week when not even making match day panels is borderline lunacy. It can also lead to young fella's being in a bad head space. Easy for us to say 'why would he quit, loads of fella's would love to play for their county.' County football is a full time lifestyle, why give that much effort into something if you aren't getting any game time at all or its effecting your life negatively?

Your 20's are probably the best years of your lives, you wouldn't want to look back and say you gave them up for a few McKenna cup games & to be used for in-house games. That's alright for a few years when you are first breaking on, but there has to be a point where you have to make the decision. A few of them also probably thought they would get more game time after a change in management, however once a 2nd management team comes in and your situation doesn't change, the writing is probably on the wall.

Ronan O Neill didn't make the 26 man panel for AI final.
Lee Brennan's last championship appearance was 2018 AI final vs Dublin.
Mark Bradley came on in 76th min in Ai semi vs Kerry and didn't get on in the final.
Tiernan McCann got 14mins between the Semi final & Final.
HP McGeary barely got a kick all year.
Rory Brennan hasn't played since the Ulster Final last year.

Good post Toby47

Very hard to argue with any of that. The reality is that club football is going this way also. The fringe players who are caught in middle getting limited football for their senior set up but withheld from reserve games end up getting frustrated and as a result don't hang about. Not every club has this issue but it becoming a more common issue.
GAA at the top level (at club or county level) takes over your life and a lot of young lads in their early 20's have missed out on a lot (travel, socialising etc) in the last few years. Commitment going forward may be an issue unless you are guaranteed a starting slot in your respective team
Anything to be said for having senior games before reserve games? Obviously with games on a Friday night this has its own diificulties as well as the issue with a lot of spectators may leave after a senior game. Maybe one for the club page

HokeyPokey

Would have liked to see some of then boys stick around. Though Sludden and Kilpatrick saw little league time last year and ended up being absolutely crucial.

But, can't blame them, be interested to see if anyone steps up. Nathan Donnelly getting a lot of game time, hasn't massively stood out, bad or good for me, looks solid at the very least.

NotedObserver

Just mcnamee and Donnelly missing from a full strength Tyrone side? Interesting to see how Nathan donnelly and Munroe get on. Hopefully McShane delivers today

The Trap


God14


tyrone08

Tyrone have some serious work to do now. Would it be with while accepting relegation and instead train towards the championship. At the minute fermanagh won't fear tyrone and I would wager at this minute I time Derry would beat them

Fear ón Srath Bán

Quote from: God14 on March 13, 2022, 04:34:10 PM
Dire

Worse than Killarney

Let's not get carried away -- 6 goals against in Killarney FFS, though it could be 7 in two weeks' time at this rate!  ;)
Carlsberg don't do Gombeenocracies, but by jaysus if they did...

NotedObserver

Miles off all over the pitch. Half forward and half back line struggling to give the team a platform. Canavan is a magic player tho

tyrone08

Quote from: Fear ón Srath Bán on March 13, 2022, 07:49:22 PM
Quote from: God14 on March 13, 2022, 04:34:10 PM
Dire

Worse than Killarney

Let's not get carried away -- 6 goals against in Killarney FFS, though it could be 7 in two weeks' time at this rate!  ;)

Some of those goals were fortunate enough. Today was a shambles fromm start to finish