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General discussion / Re: 6 County Assembly Elections - 5th May 2022
« on: May 10, 2022, 08:35:14 AM »
Yeah, it's totally a symbolic thing.  I think that's the main reason the DUP will not go in again.  They set their stall up a few months re: protocol when they saw the series of opinion polls and they were lagging behind SF. This was when they made the statement about protocol must be sorted. 

They don't see nationalists as equals.
They only do equality on their terms.
Nationalists must call them out on this and use this mantra to the media.

Aoife Moore was on RTÉ yesterday saying SF were driving the re-united Ireland theme and that it was ironic that FFG etc. in the 26 counties have no interest...and them so called republican parties.

SF must be pleased about their move in Derry to replace their two mla's there with new candidates.  Worked out really well for them.

DUP, after losing votes, but holding a lot of seats will be happy enough I think.  They'll be delighted that Allister is just back in himself.

Alliance got a lot of the 4th and 5th seats and will be delighted. Be interesting to see will this replicate into council seats at the next local elections.

SDLP will be shocked. Typical Derry city bluster under Eastwood. He needs to be asked the hard questions.

UUP didn't get much from the Beattie bounce but always said they have to shrink before they grow. Maybe he's right to stick at it.

Aontú - the mirror opposite to the TUV. With the backing of the bishops and the CC, they haven't made much inroads. Be interesting to see will you see their candidates stand again in the local elections.

Green Party - lost two seats and everyone disappointed about that, whatever political party you support. Again, they'll have to build from the bottom up.

PBP - Carroll the single mla again. Squeezed out again.

Whats does Derry City bluster  mean? is that a comment in general about Derry or what is it?

Educate yourself also about Aontú, TUV, catch yourself on, starting to sound like Allison Morris, disgraceful how she and others were trying to push this narrative.

Colum, Derry Ciry bluster like you saying people were told to vote Alliance in the Creggan...lol...were told to!

Like stopping Brexit and going to the birthday party in Armagh...bluster feom the city men.

Aontú are a one issue party - mirror image of TUV with Peadar as leader. Right wing, as loads of others on here have said but you argue with everyone.
I gave all shades of green a vote/preference last Thursday and was delighted to do so. 

Join us in an effort to move the re-unifacation of our country on in the short term. Whatever shade of green you are - don't stand on the sidelines sniping.

What are your republican credentials. PM if you like. I have never ever given a first preference to a non republican party and I am voting republican since SF were on 10% when we were still wakening up to Brits standing over our beds. I have seen people brutalised and shot by both the army and RUC and have been attacked myself by both them and loyalists.  I certainly don't need you to tell me anything about what Derry City men have or havent done for a UI.

Aontú are a left wing party on economics but described as socially conservative on the question of abortion. This seems beyond your ability of understanding, I cant help with that

Don't embarrass yourself with that statement!

You've had a bad week-end with the election results.

As I say, come join the rest of us in the preparation for re-unification of Ireland. Don't snipe at everybody else from the sidelines.

In other news, I always wonder why unionists never put up a single candidate in west belfast.  Would there notbe a good chance of a unionist seat there? Anybody know?
Combined Unionist vote of 5442 in West Belfast with the quota being 7278. Frank McCoubrey got up to 5489 on the final count with transfers (from an initial first preference vote of 4166), with Gerry Carroll edging up to 6022 and being elected without reaching the quota

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General discussion / Re: Restaurants in Belfast?
« on: May 09, 2022, 09:02:01 AM »
Anywhere other than the West to watch Old Firm & GAA today?
Too late for you, but I caught second half of Tyrone game in Nacy Mulligans

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Tyrone / Re: Tyrone County Football and Hurling
« on: April 27, 2022, 09:28:27 AM »
If the suspension is now served is there any benefit from the appeal?

Wtf are you talking about. As stands he misses this weekend.

I don’t know….
For some reason I had it in my head he had been suspended before Fermanagh and had sat it out.
Lol did you watch the game at all?

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Tyrone / Re: Tyrone Club Football and Hurling
« on: April 27, 2022, 09:27:18 AM »
Have the Drumragh lads been involved in the championship so far or even been in the match day squads?

Oran McGrath from Strabane is also on the panel. He was listed to start V Down but Cush came in instead, he hasn't been on the panel since so maybe injured.

You would imagine D3 will be between Aghaloo, Augher, Stewartstown and Strabane for league and championship. Could see 3 teams getting up as a competitive league will allow for the D3 team going into playoffs to be in good shape.
Dropped off panel

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General discussion / Re: 6 County Assembly Elections - 5th May 2022
« on: April 26, 2022, 09:43:35 AM »
Re DUP posters-in Lisburn I notice they have reused posters from previous years. Jeffrey Donaldson look about 15 years younger with a curtains haircut  ;D

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General discussion / Re: 6 County Assembly Elections - 5th May 2022
« on: April 26, 2022, 09:41:56 AM »
Are they waiting to the friday after to start counting or will they start as soon as its over.
Correct. Verficiation of unused votes will happen on Thursday night, but the first counting of valid votes cast won't happen until Friday morning

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Tyrone / Re: Tyrone Club Football and Hurling
« on: March 25, 2022, 10:00:54 AM »
Honest question for any adult players on here - do you actually enjoy playing Gaelic anymore?

It is so much commitment now with teams out on pitch 3 times a week and then expected to be in gym 2-3 times a week. Gone are the days of playing for enjoyment and it’s even down in this way for teams in lower half of division 3 - I get they don’t want to be there but making teams train on a Friday night and Sunday morning after the way weve had to live the last two years is making it harder and harder for players to commit.

Leagues didn’t finish last year until December and teams were back out in February. Something has got to give or numbers will continue to dwindle in the smaller clubs in particular. It would be hard to blame 18/19/20 year olds as well as those with young family for not wanting to commit.

It’s beyond a joke now with regards training requirements. No room for a older family man anymore. Quit playing bout 5 years ago but was 36 at the time so well due it. Have to say the last couple of years were more of a slog with less enjoyment. Even at reserve level.  Started playing dads & lads last year and starting enjoying the casual games again.
Des Tracey still flying it

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Tyrone / Re: Tyrone Club Football and Hurling
« on: March 24, 2022, 04:01:08 PM »
Is Pat McNabb the new man in with Urney?
Christ

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Tyrone / Re: Tyrone Club Football and Hurling
« on: March 24, 2022, 02:14:47 PM »
Goals_Will_Come will know what the score is, hes involved in the senior set up

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Tyrone / Re: Tyrone County Football and Hurling
« on: March 10, 2022, 11:43:00 AM »
Surely with split season they are missing out on very little anyway
Except 4 starred games if Tyrone get to AI semi final

Go read Ronan O'Neill's interview in the Irish News from the time he quit.

Missing 4 league games is probably the least of these guys worries, their used to missing club action year after year. Missing family members/best mates stags, weddings and numerous other events to train 5/6 nights a week when not even making match day panels is borderline lunacy. It can also lead to young fella's being in a bad head space. Easy for us to say 'why would he quit, loads of fella's would love to play for their county.' County football is a full time lifestyle, why give that much effort into something if you aren't getting any game time at all or its effecting your life negatively?

Your 20's are probably the best years of your lives, you wouldn't want to look back and say you gave them up for a few McKenna cup games & to be used for in-house games. That's alright for a few years when you are first breaking on, but there has to be a point where you have to make the decision. A few of them also probably thought they would get more game time after a change in management, however once a 2nd management team comes in and your situation doesn't change, the writing is probably on the wall.

Ronan O Neill didn't make the 26 man panel for AI final.
Lee Brennan's last championship appearance was 2018 AI final vs Dublin.
Mark Bradley came on in 76th min in Ai semi vs Kerry and didn't get on in the final.
Tiernan McCann got 14mins between the Semi final & Final.
HP McGeary barely got a kick all year.
Rory Brennan hasn't played since the Ulster Final last year.

Good post Toby47

Very hard to argue with any of that. The reality is that club football is going this way also. The fringe players who are caught in middle getting limited football for their senior set up but withheld from reserve games end up getting frustrated and as a result don’t hang about. Not every club has this issue but it becoming a more common issue.
GAA at the top level (at club or county level) takes over your life and a lot of young lads in their early 20’s have missed out on a lot (travel, socialising etc) in the last few years. Commitment going forward may be an issue unless you are guaranteed a starting slot in your respective team
Anything to be said for having senior games before reserve games? Obviously with games on a Friday night this has its own diificulties as well as the issue with a lot of spectators may leave after a senior game. Maybe one for the club page

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Tyrone / Re: Tyrone Club Football and Hurling
« on: March 07, 2022, 08:58:08 PM »
Senior

Ardboe: Mickey Donnelly
Carrickmore: Ryan Daly & Noel Hurson
Clonoe: Niall O’Neill and Kieran Hughes
Coalisland: Stevie Ferguson
Derrylaughan: Stephen Hughes
Donaghmore: Barry Tracey & Hetherington
Dromore: Paul McIvor & Ricey
Dungannon: Christopher Rafferty & Collie Holmes
Errigal Ciaran: Mark Harte and Adrian O'Donnell
Greencastle: Sean Teague
Killyclogher: Ciaran Howe & Dermot Carlin
Loughmacrory: Marty McConnell & Ciaran Meenagh
Moortown: Michael Hasson
Moy: Murray
Omagh: Larry Strain & Kevin Brady
Trillick: Nigel Seaney & Jody Gormley

Intermediate
 
Aghyaran: Michael Anderson
Beragh: Noel Slane
Cookstown: Conall Lavery
Clogher: Martin Short
Edendork: John McGuckin
Eglish: Matthew McGleenan
Eskra: Niall Colton
Galbally: Crozier and Joe McMahon
Gortin: Colm McGarvey & Phillip McKenna
Kildress: Declan Treanor
Kileeshil: Stephen McHugh
Naomh Eoghan: Mc Nulty
Owen Roes: Paddy Campbell
Pomeroy: Horse Devlin
Rock: Cormac McGinley
T***yreagh: Chris Kelly

Junior
Aghaloo: Stephen Donnelly
Augher: McElroy
Brackaville:
Brocagh: Brendan Quinn
Castlederg: Martin McNulty
Clann na nGael: Ben McGuckin
Coalisland Thirds:
Derrytresk: Paul Hughes
Donaghmore Thirds: Local Lads
Drumquin: Conor Gormley
Drumragh: Simon McGeary
Errigal Ciaran Thirds: Column Quinn & Shawn Early
Fintona:
Glenelly: Diarmuid McNulty
Killyman: Seamus Forker
Stewartstown: Peter Armour
Strabane: Corey and Wray
Urney: Aidan Gilroy and Enda Ferris
:o

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Tyrone / Re: Tyrone Club Football and Hurling
« on: February 02, 2022, 08:05:08 AM »
 :P :P :P

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Tyrone / Re: Tyrone Club Football and Hurling
« on: January 25, 2022, 02:48:53 PM »
The Friday evenings games seemed to work well especially during those long May/June evenings - It meant that players could enjoy their weekends with families & friends

Going by the county fixture calendar my guess is that its going to be either the beginning or mid May ACL start.  There are 7 teams in intermediate with Co representation (Aghayaran, Clogher, Edendork, Eglish, Galbally,Pomeroy, Owen Roes), then 12 Teams with Co representatives in Div 1 with Moy, Omagh & Loughmacrory, Killyclogher only having 1 each with Clonoe, Greencastle, Moortown having none. I wonder will the CCC go for a 6 starred game option this year or will it revert back to the 5? Will we see the reintroduction of pre-season competitions like the Jim Devlin/McGarrity cup? Will we know anything before the end of February?

Worked well for senior players not reserves. Reserve football was a shamble last year. Players trying to get out of work and to a certain location for 6.45, usually required to be there at 6 for w warm up. I know in my own club of few players that had to miss games due to work

I think its been talked to death already but a big improvement in Tyrone would be to play Reserves as stand alone fixture and give them their own route to promotion/relegation like they do in other counties.

Saturday Games at 1 and 3

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Could impact on the availability of referees given most youth games fixed for Saturdays

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Tyrone / Re: Tyrone Club Football and Hurling
« on: January 14, 2022, 05:05:54 PM »
Any clubs out yet?

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