Has the intercounty system in football told us all it’s ever going to tell us?

Started by caprea, February 13, 2020, 05:38:52 AM

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rosnarun


I against any system whose purpose id to stop the best team from winning , which is what most of these plans seem to entail
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BennyCake

Quote from: rosnarun on February 17, 2020, 03:56:56 PM

I against any system whose purpose id to stop the best team from winning , which is what most of these plans seem to entail

Ok so Dublin are the best team. Why bother even playing the championship?  ::)

Rossfan

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We're going to bring home the SAM

BennyCake

Quote from: Rossfan on February 17, 2020, 05:20:57 PM
Someone had to finish 2nd ;)
Or else ban Dublin for being too good.

HQ can't see the bigger picture. The inter county game is already on life support. Tiered championships will totally finish it off, and there's no way back from it.

The money men have decimated the game in 2 decades.

Rossfan

Davy's given us a dream to cling to
We're going to bring home the SAM

RadioGAAGAA

Quote from: Rossfan on February 17, 2020, 06:49:28 PM
How will "tiered championships totally finish it"???

'cos no one will give two f**ks about the lower tiers.

Hows the Tommy Murphy cup going these days?


Why on earth do people keep repeating the same stuff and somehow expecting a different result?
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From the Bunker

Quote from: Rossfan on February 17, 2020, 06:49:28 PM
How will "tiered championships totally finish it"???

The tiered championship will be good for tier 1 Counties. They will make more money. Tier 2 will get token mentions here and there and save the Association a lot of money as they won't invest in it as there won't be anything worth investing in.


Farrandeelin

Quote from: Rossfan on February 17, 2020, 06:49:28 PM
How will "tiered championships totally finish it"???

Imagine if Ros do get relegated (unlikely) and Mayo manage to beat them. Would many more players opt out from the Roscommon setup? Or would they be delighted to win the damn thing they didn't set out to win at the beginning of the year?
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BennyCake

Quote from: From the Bunker on February 17, 2020, 08:51:14 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on February 17, 2020, 06:49:28 PM
How will "tiered championships totally finish it"???

The tiered championship will be good for tier 1 Counties. They will make more money. Tier 2 will get token mentions here and there and save the Association a lot of money as they won't invest in it as there won't be anything worth investing in.

The relentless trashings by Dublin Kerry etc in tier 1 will only last so long before players from the likes of Cavan Armagh Clare Fermanagh Westmeath etc, say f**k this!

The exodus of players and fans from the tier 2 teams will increase year on year, with 25 people at tier 2 games, and a few dozen at the tier 2 final. Probably played in the arsehole of nowhere.

Meanwhile, HQ will peddle the "everything is great" mantra, and Louth Leitrim Waterford etc are only stuck in tier 2 for the last 10 years because they're a pack of lazy bollixs who won't get off their arses. Nothing to do with funding, nothing at all.

Sandy Hill

Quote from: Eire90 on February 17, 2020, 11:06:38 AM
An open draw like the fa cup would help smaller teams cause  a lucky draw and you could easily get to a quarter final and gives smaller country fans hope if dublin drew against kerry in the first round that is one of them out you could even do a double chance where the teams that lose in the 1st round play each other and losers are eliminated the winners play each other  then the losers meet the winners like in the down championship you have round 2a and round 2b only its done with 32 teams.

Please someone, send this man a few full stops!
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Rossfan

Quote from: Farrandeelin on February 17, 2020, 09:29:25 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on February 17, 2020, 06:49:28 PM
How will "tiered championships totally finish it"???

Imagine if Ros do get relegated (unlikely) and Mayo manage to beat them. Would many more players opt out from the Roscommon setup? Or would they be delighted to win the damn thing they didn't set out to win at the beginning of the year?
And if Cork don't get promoted (even more unlikely) we could end up playing them in the B  Final a year after playing then in the Qtr Finals. 8)
Davy's given us a dream to cling to
We're going to bring home the SAM

jb81

The only long term solution I can see is that the League must become the main competition, with promotion and relegation. All teams playing similar standard teams week in and week out. Everyone same amount of games and a double weekend in August September for the four finals ( 2 Sat and 2 Sun ). The knockout can be run off outside of that or before it if wanted as a side comp. Provincials have to go, not relevant any more in the whole scheme of things, even though they are still very important to a lot of counties, possible pre-season competition.

Its the only way I can see things improving. Its not adding any games to the intercounty calendar.  The thought of Tyrone playing Dublin one week, Donegal the next, Kerry next etc.  in the middle of the summer on good pitches sounds good to me.

AFM

Quote from: jb81 on February 18, 2020, 08:31:33 AM
The only long term solution I can see is that the League must become the main competition, with promotion and relegation. All teams playing similar standard teams week in and week out. Everyone same amount of games and a double weekend in August September for the four finals ( 2 Sat and 2 Sun ). The knockout can be run off outside of that or before it if wanted as a side comp. Provincials have to go, not relevant any more in the whole scheme of things, even though they are still very important to a lot of counties, possible pre-season competition.

Its the only way I can see things improving. Its not adding any games to the intercounty calendar.  The thought of Tyrone playing Dublin one week, Donegal the next, Kerry next etc.  in the middle of the summer on good pitches sounds good to me.

Is that not a description of the super 8s!

dublin7

Quote from: BennyCake on February 17, 2020, 09:59:05 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on February 17, 2020, 08:51:14 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on February 17, 2020, 06:49:28 PM
How will "tiered championships totally finish it"???

The tiered championship will be good for tier 1 Counties. They will make more money. Tier 2 will get token mentions here and there and save the Association a lot of money as they won't invest in it as there won't be anything worth investing in.

The relentless trashings by Dublin Kerry etc in tier 1 will only last so long before players from the likes of Cavan Armagh Clare Fermanagh Westmeath etc, say f**k this!

The exodus of players and fans from the tier 2 teams will increase year on year, with 25 people at tier 2 games, and a few dozen at the tier 2 final. Probably played in the arsehole of nowhere.

Meanwhile, HQ will peddle the "everything is great" mantra, and Louth Leitrim Waterford etc are only stuck in tier 2 for the last 10 years because they're a pack of lazy bollixs who won't get off their arses. Nothing to do with funding, nothing at all.

Where is all the publicity & coverage on tv/radio that the likes of waterford/leitrim/louth/wexford footballers get every year in the championship or are these counties worried they'll lose their 30 secs of highlights from sunday game if they enter a Tier 2 competition?

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Quote from: RadioGAAGAA on February 17, 2020, 07:16:29 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on February 17, 2020, 06:49:28 PM
How will "tiered championships totally finish it"???

'cos no one will give two f**ks about the lower tiers.

Hows the Tommy Murphy cup going these days?


Why on earth do people keep repeating the same stuff and somehow expecting a different result?

In the current non tiered system no one gave a f**k. Who in the name of God wants to watch Dublin hammer Carlow or Tyrone destroy Derry? Problem with the new system is there is isn't enough tiers. We need 3 if not 4.