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#1
Derry / Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
September 21, 2021, 04:55:38 PM
A very good game by two very coached teams. Magherafelt the better team over the hour.
Very unfortunate to have them scenes of violence by them young  lads.
But then a tiger dosent change its spot. Never could take a beating.
The referee done well getting it finished.
#2
Derry / Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
August 31, 2020, 11:41:58 AM
I believe the Screen had a " friendly" game abandoned yesterday. Will the county board suspend the culprits for next Sunday. By all accounts what happened has no place in our association.
#3
Derry / Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
August 25, 2020, 10:43:41 PM
We have got the turf cutters, hate playing them. Their supporters are gulpins of the highest order.
#4
Derry / Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
August 01, 2020, 10:44:53 PM
Who is responsible for giving that boy Quinn a whistle again.
He will never referee a Bellaghy game again
#5
Derry / Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
March 08, 2020, 08:39:34 PM
Very good result for the hurlers today. No reason why we can't beat Down and move on. They are delightful to watch.
#6
Derry / Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
February 23, 2020, 09:06:22 PM
Good wins for both codes this weekend.
Hard luck to the u20s. Just kicked too many wides.
#7
Derry / Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
February 03, 2020, 01:28:46 PM
A good performance from this young team. Every man playing For the Jumper. Very unlucky.
I think we will beat Tipperary with a bit to spare.
#8
Derry / Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
January 29, 2020, 01:39:19 PM
Quote from: Rawhide on January 28, 2020, 04:36:23 PM
Quote from: tonesfirstandlast on January 28, 2020, 03:31:19 PM
Quote from: tbrick18 on January 28, 2020, 02:33:58 PM
Quote from: tonesfirstandlast on January 28, 2020, 01:55:21 PM
Quote from: Rawhide on January 27, 2020, 01:30:20 PM
Went to the game, not much to say that hasn't been said. I thought Gallagher's post match comments on social media summed up our performance. I read Bannside wants to give the job to Gilligan who hasn't managed one team and has rode on the coat tail of Moran as a coach, playing a style that is literally cut and paste with Kilcoo, in the event that Gallagher who has been in 5 of the last 7 Ulster finals as an intercounty manager, doesn't cut it in Derry. Is there a light on there at all BS.
The single outstanding thing for me from Saturdays game apart was the fat that I can't recall us kicking the ball a short 25m or long 40m pass into or scoring zone, not one attempt at the 'mark' pass in the entire match. I genuinely couldn't get over it

If the mark or lack of it was the biggest problem Rawhide saw on Saturday night, it just goes to prove what we always thought. He hasn't a clue. The truth of the matter is that the county board and managers starting in 2008 has put the county in that big of a decline that Could be decades before we get out of it.
The only manager over the past 20 years that players and supporters bought into was Paddy Crozier

Not the case with supporters as I seem to remember plenty of complaints when he got the job and plenty of complaints about some of the decisions he made during matches which were perceived to have cost us games.
I certainly wouldn't have been his biggest fan (taking off Paul Murphy at half time vs Dublin in 07 sticks in the mind). I can't speak for the players though.

Typical Derry Supporter, he got Derry to a quarter final, he beat the all Ireland champions earlier on that year. How many has done that since.

And the players loved him but unfortunately that tight bond was ruined the next year.

Your some hypocrite TFAL, your the boy who continually attacked Coleman for the All Ireland semi-final defeat to Galway in 2001, but now your crying wolf about a Derry supporter critising Crozier, calling him a typical Derry supporter, a hypocrite, you reek if it. The facts are, and they are indisputable, we have made only one appearance in an Ulster final since 2000 (BTW Coleman managed that team to) winning none in 22 years, is that our past players and the players we are producing are not good enough. Year in and out we can't put two back to back games in the Ulster championship, including Crozier. We have had the a number of good players, but 4/5 don't make up 15 in a team. All those managers are shite, and all those great players and teams that were wasted  ::) In the intervening time we have had Crozier, Moran, Mc Ivor, Cassidy and Brennan, would you like to add up the amount of championships those man have won at club level year in and out. FFs have a titter of a wit.

I hit a RAWhide nerve there will Old Rawhide 😀. I still stand by my comments that it was the management that beat us against Galway in 2001, as bad a bit of managing as ever seen in Croke I would say but I would blame Cassidy more that Eamon RIP, I think Cassidy was along the line that day and Coleman was suspended. Sure the players wouldn't turn out for them in 2002.
As for naming a list of mercenaries who win championships with teams who have no opposition in their counties doesn't make them county managers in my opinion. I would give Paddy Crozier another shot at it.
#9
Derry / Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
January 28, 2020, 03:31:19 PM
Quote from: tbrick18 on January 28, 2020, 02:33:58 PM
Quote from: tonesfirstandlast on January 28, 2020, 01:55:21 PM
Quote from: Rawhide on January 27, 2020, 01:30:20 PM
Went to the game, not much to say that hasn't been said. I thought Gallagher's post match comments on social media summed up our performance. I read Bannside wants to give the job to Gilligan who hasn't managed one team and has rode on the coat tail of Moran as a coach, playing a style that is literally cut and paste with Kilcoo, in the event that Gallagher who has been in 5 of the last 7 Ulster finals as an intercounty manager, doesn't cut it in Derry. Is there a light on there at all BS.
The single outstanding thing for me from Saturdays game apart was the fat that I can't recall us kicking the ball a short 25m or long 40m pass into or scoring zone, not one attempt at the 'mark' pass in the entire match. I genuinely couldn't get over it

If the mark or lack of it was the biggest problem Rawhide saw on Saturday night, it just goes to prove what we always thought. He hasn't a clue. The truth of the matter is that the county board and managers starting in 2008 has put the county in that big of a decline that Could be decades before we get out of it.
The only manager over the past 20 years that players and supporters bought into was Paddy Crozier

Not the case with supporters as I seem to remember plenty of complaints when he got the job and plenty of complaints about some of the decisions he made during matches which were perceived to have cost us games.
I certainly wouldn't have been his biggest fan (taking off Paul Murphy at half time vs Dublin in 07 sticks in the mind). I can't speak for the players though.

Typical Derry Supporter, he got Derry to a quarter final, he beat the all Ireland champions earlier on that year. How many has done that since.

And the players loved him but unfortunately that tight bond was ruined the next year.
#10
Derry / Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
January 28, 2020, 01:55:21 PM
Quote from: Rawhide on January 27, 2020, 01:30:20 PM
Went to the game, not much to say that hasn't been said. I thought Gallagher's post match comments on social media summed up our performance. I read Bannside wants to give the job to Gilligan who hasn't managed one team and has rode on the coat tail of Moran as a coach, playing a style that is literally cut and paste with Kilcoo, in the event that Gallagher who has been in 5 of the last 7 Ulster finals as an intercounty manager, doesn't cut it in Derry. Is there a light on there at all BS.
The single outstanding thing for me from Saturdays game apart was the fat that I can't recall us kicking the ball a short 25m or long 40m pass into or scoring zone, not one attempt at the 'mark' pass in the entire match. I genuinely couldn't get over it

If the mark or lack of it was the biggest problem Rawhide saw on Saturday night, it just goes to prove what we always thought. He hasn't a clue. The truth of the matter is that the county board and managers starting in 2008 has put the county in that big of a decline that Could be decades before we get out of it.
The only manager over the past 20 years that players and supporters bought into was Paddy Crozier
#11
Derry / Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
January 25, 2020, 05:01:36 PM
Ready to start here in Celtic Park. Saw more at U6 Gogames
#12
Derry / Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
December 06, 2019, 11:34:08 AM
Quote from: seanyb1 on December 06, 2019, 08:11:17 AM
Quote from: Newbridge Exile on December 05, 2019, 10:09:27 PM
Quote from: Real Talk on December 05, 2019, 05:20:05 PM
Looking back I think Dermot Dougan's display against Galway in the AI semifinal was his best performance ever in a Derry shirt .... but because we got beaten it just wasn't recognised
I would agree,( think Dougie got 4 points from play that day), the Ulster final against Armagh when he got two goals off McGeeney gets talked about more but he was exceptional in that Galway semi-final.

The management to blame for losing us that one and probably an All Ireland

AI Semi Final 2001....still haven't got over that one. Such a sickner leaving croker that day
#13
Derry / Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
November 28, 2019, 07:15:13 PM
Quote from: Derry Optimist on November 28, 2019, 01:17:34 PM
Presumably those Slaughtneil and Coleraine hurlers who are on the County football panel will not be considered for the McKenna Cup until their respective hurling teams are eliminated from the All Ireland series.

That gives an excellent opportunity for some of the younger  panellists such as the McWilliams twins,Padraig McGrogan,Conor McCluskey, Shea Downey,Alex Doherty, Ben McCarron and Declan Cassidy to stake a claim for inclusion in the National League match day squads.

Ironically Derry,unlike in previous years, would appear to have now more quality forwards and a shortage  of top class defenders and midfielders.In the great days of the nineties it was the opposite.Back then we were much stronger in defence and at midfield.

Any budding Scullions,Kieran McKeevers, Henry Downeys,McGilligans or Tohills  on the horizon?

No
#14
Derry / Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
November 22, 2019, 08:23:53 PM
I hope not
#15
Derry / Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
November 20, 2019, 06:30:19 PM
The whole merry go round will change now with Pockiteeno available. Ballymaguigan are his preferred club.