Hamas attack Israel & subsequent genocide

[PadraicHenryPearse]

thanks, you were able to google the German figure, I've no idea why you expected me to get you the Irish figure and then do a comparison...

I dont think I called any govt. Nazi supporters and not language I would tend to use as it can then be used as a distract away from the point actually been made.

I wouldn't be far off your opinion there, I have called them cowards who use weasel words so similar to spineless. I know they aren't doing enough and chose not to do more.
 

Will you be supporting them in next election?

I haven't supported them before and won't in the next election.

[PadraicHenryPearse]

We should start by boycotting anything Irish until they follow what SA have done, otherwise we are supporting it

can you bring me through this logic?

[JoG2]

But they are not doing what SA have done ..

So on the same power as the Brits and US.

obviosuly we see more UK news and US content so hard to say but they are worst in some ways like banning protests, they send weapons like the US/UK.

Could the US stop the Israeli genocide? If the US called for ceasefire, likely triggering others to do similar would Israel agree to a ceasefire?

Banning protests? Plenty protests in Belfast so I'm not sure what you are talking about

the germans do. might have been a little unclear

An estimated 8,000 to 10,000 people marched in the German capital. About 1,000 police were deployed in part to prevent any anti-Semitic speeches or signage. Until recently, most pro-Palestinian demonstrations were banned in Berlin because local authorities feared an outburst of violence or anti-Semitism.

The German Government sees the suffering of people in Gaza and has repeatedly increased its humanitarian assistance, most recently on 15 December by 24 million euro. This brings overall assistance in 2023 for the Palestinian territories to 203 million euro, with 130 million euro in new funding since 7 October.

Have we a figure on what the Irish government have given?

BERLIN, Nov 8 (Reuters) - German defence export approvals to Israel so far this year have risen nearly tenfold from last year.....As of Nov. 2, the German government has approved the export of close to 303 million euros' ($323 million) worth of defence equipment to Israel. By comparison, 32 million euros' worth of defence exports were approved in all of 2022.

Show me a country that makes arms, that's not doing 'business' in countries that are in conflict?

Again how much has Ireland given to Gaza? And are there people in Germany having protests against what's happening in Gazza?

You do enjoy being a contrarian, but whatever way you view this huge increase of arms from Germany to Israel, it is absolutely disgusting and will play out very poorly in history books.
Germany has or had a 'self-imposed restriction of not exporting arms to active war zones'. But but....

[Milltown Row2]

We should start by boycotting anything Irish until they follow what SA have done, otherwise we are supporting it

can you bring me through this logic?

These politicians are only concerned with staying in power, how else can you have both ff and Fg in power lol

Hit them where it hurts. Put someone in power that'll at least make a stand. The Irish government are rotten

[Milltown Row2]

But they are not doing what SA have done ..

So on the same power as the Brits and US.

obviosuly we see more UK news and US content so hard to say but they are worst in some ways like banning protests, they send weapons like the US/UK.

Could the US stop the Israeli genocide? If the US called for ceasefire, likely triggering others to do similar would Israel agree to a ceasefire?

Banning protests? Plenty protests in Belfast so I'm not sure what you are talking about

the germans do. might have been a little unclear

An estimated 8,000 to 10,000 people marched in the German capital. About 1,000 police were deployed in part to prevent any anti-Semitic speeches or signage. Until recently, most pro-Palestinian demonstrations were banned in Berlin because local authorities feared an outburst of violence or anti-Semitism.

The German Government sees the suffering of people in Gaza and has repeatedly increased its humanitarian assistance, most recently on 15 December by 24 million euro. This brings overall assistance in 2023 for the Palestinian territories to 203 million euro, with 130 million euro in new funding since 7 October.

Have we a figure on what the Irish government have given?

BERLIN, Nov 8 (Reuters) - German defence export approvals to Israel so far this year have risen nearly tenfold from last year.....As of Nov. 2, the German government has approved the export of close to 303 million euros' ($323 million) worth of defence equipment to Israel. By comparison, 32 million euros' worth of defence exports were approved in all of 2022.

Show me a country that makes arms, that's not doing 'business' in countries that are in conflict?

Again how much has Ireland given to Gaza? And are there people in Germany having protests against what's happening in Gazza?

You do enjoy being a contrarian, but whatever way you view this huge increase of arms from Germany to Israel, it is absolutely disgusting and will play out very poorly in history books.
Germany has or had a 'self-imposed restriction of not exporting arms to active war zones'. But but....

But they are not doing what SA have done ..

So on the same power as the Brits and US.

obviosuly we see more UK news and US content so hard to say but they are worst in some ways like banning protests, they send weapons like the US/UK.

Could the US stop the Israeli genocide? If the US called for ceasefire, likely triggering others to do similar would Israel agree to a ceasefire?

Banning protests? Plenty protests in Belfast so I'm not sure what you are talking about

the germans do. might have been a little unclear

An estimated 8,000 to 10,000 people marched in the German capital. About 1,000 police were deployed in part to prevent any anti-Semitic speeches or signage. Until recently, most pro-Palestinian demonstrations were banned in Berlin because local authorities feared an outburst of violence or anti-Semitism.

The German Government sees the suffering of people in Gaza and has repeatedly increased its humanitarian assistance, most recently on 15 December by 24 million euro. This brings overall assistance in 2023 for the Palestinian territories to 203 million euro, with 130 million euro in new funding since 7 October.

Have we a figure on what the Irish government have given?

BERLIN, Nov 8 (Reuters) - German defence export approvals to Israel so far this year have risen nearly tenfold from last year.....As of Nov. 2, the German government has approved the export of close to 303 million euros' ($323 million) worth of defence equipment to Israel. By comparison, 32 million euros' worth of defence exports were approved in all of 2022.

Show me a country that makes arms, that's not doing 'business' in countries that are in conflict?

Again how much has Ireland given to Gaza? And are there people in Germany having protests against what's happening in Gazza?

You do enjoy being a contrarian, but whatever way you view this huge increase of arms from Germany to Israel, it is absolutely disgusting and will play out very poorly in history books.
Germany has or had a 'self-imposed restriction of not exporting arms to active war zones'. But but....

I'm debating or questioning, if I'm being a contrarian, well, whatever

So many countries/companies supply arms, if Ireland had the manpower manufacturers or skill set to make arms we'd be doing the same.

[Eire90]

70-year-old charged after car runs into pro-Palestine demo in Edinburgh

[seafoid]

Brando in Apocalypse Now. An acting masterclass.
Israel is the heart of darkness
Israel will only get worse
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPPGMNOLaMw

[north_antrim_hound]

Brando in Apocalypse Now. An acting masterclass.
Israel is the heart of darkness
Israel will only get worse
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPPGMNOLaMw

Would have more respect for Kurtz TBH, in the book and the film he does reflect on his actions and recognizes the impossibility of redemption when he's  gone to far. There is some correlation in the horror of colonialism and imperial plunder.

[Eire90]

The state of the likes of paul murphy in the dail today why are they not being called out for cultural appropriation

[PadraicHenryPearse]

The state of the likes of paul murphy in the dail today why are they not being called out for cultural appropriation

because its solidarity not cultural appropriation.

[Jell 0 Biafra]

Fair play to Clare Daly on this

https://www.facebook.com/ajplusenglish/videos/1488767218520961

[ThomasMullan]

Fair play to Clare Daly on this

https://www.facebook.com/ajplusenglish/videos/1488767218520961

Boke. Clare Daly is an Assad apologist and cares not a jot when Assad slaughters Palestinians along with the hundreds of thousands of Syrian civilians.

[Jell 0 Biafra]

There's a Syria thread if you want to bother.   I'm highlighting what she said, correctly, about what's happening in Israel/Gaza.

[ThomasMullan]

There's a Syria thread if you want to bother.   I'm highlighting what she said, correctly, about what's happening in Israel/Gaza.

I think it's relevant to point out that Clare Daly has never condemned Assad for murdering Palestinians, since she is all against Israel murdering Palestinians. Any right minded person would condemn both. Why does she not?

[Jell 0 Biafra]

Would you like to take issue with anything she said today?