A United Ireland. Opening up the discussion.

[red hander]

Mary Lou marching behind an 'England get out of Ireland' banner.  That's embarrassing.  All SF have to do is keep their mouths shut and let the DUP get the bigots prize, but they always manage something offensive.

The Shinners have played this entire brexit thing horribly from the start. Constantly bleating on about a border poll has resulted in the extreme unionists coming to the fore again and digging their heels in. Its quite conceivable that if the british leave the EU that scotland will leave the UK and NI would follow. Mary Lou doesn't seem to realise or care that even though she may get a majority in the North for a UI, if there is even a possible sniff of hassle for the south she won't get it here. People in the south are not going to suck up the initial financial hit and have the UDA planting bombs in Dublin. The best thing that SF could do is get the assembly open again, do their utmost to work with the unionists, remove as much as possible the hatred between the two and wait for the general population to get pissed off importing goods from, or going through customs checks in france, germany, spain etc and decide the benefits of the EU outweigh any of being in the UK.

This was tried before - that's why the Shinners pulled out.  DUP still have the notion that it's 1960. They had their chance to share power on an equal basis.  Unionists showed, as in the 20's, 60's and 70's etc. etc. that they are not able to share power with nationalists.

No return to Stomont - they had their chance and blew it.

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[Raginbull]

Mary Lou marching behind an 'England get out of Ireland' banner.  That's embarrassing.  All SF have to do is keep their mouths shut and let the DUP get the bigots prize, but they always manage something offensive.

The Shinners have played this entire brexit thing horribly from the start. Constantly bleating on about a border poll has resulted in the extreme unionists coming to the fore again and digging their heels in. Its quite conceivable that if the british leave the EU that scotland will leave the UK and NI would follow. Mary Lou doesn't seem to realise or care that even though she may get a majority in the North for a UI, if there is even a possible sniff of hassle for the south she won't get it here. People in the south are not going to suck up the initial financial hit and have the UDA planting bombs in Dublin. The best thing that SF could do is get the assembly open again, do their utmost to work with the unionists, remove as much as possible the hatred between the two and wait for the general population to get pissed off importing goods from, or going through customs checks in france, germany, spain etc and decide the benefits of the EU outweigh any of being in the UK.

This was tried before - that's why the Shinners pulled out.  DUP still have the notion that it's 1960. They had their chance to share power on an equal basis.  Unionists showed, as in the 20's, 60's and 70's etc. etc. that they are not able to share power with nationalists.

No return to Stomont - they had their chance and blew it.

This

You do realise the unionists couldn't give a Damn about storming. They're happy with direct English rule. Tell them to stick it if ya want but it only hurts the nationalists.

[trueblue1234]

Mary Lou marching behind an 'England get out of Ireland' banner.  That's embarrassing.  All SF have to do is keep their mouths shut and let the DUP get the bigots prize, but they always manage something offensive.

The Shinners have played this entire brexit thing horribly from the start. Constantly bleating on about a border poll has resulted in the extreme unionists coming to the fore again and digging their heels in. Its quite conceivable that if the british leave the EU that scotland will leave the UK and NI would follow. Mary Lou doesn't seem to realise or care that even though she may get a majority in the North for a UI, if there is even a possible sniff of hassle for the south she won't get it here. People in the south are not going to suck up the initial financial hit and have the UDA planting bombs in Dublin. The best thing that SF could do is get the assembly open again, do their utmost to work with the unionists, remove as much as possible the hatred between the two and wait for the general population to get pissed off importing goods from, or going through customs checks in france, germany, spain etc and decide the benefits of the EU outweigh any of being in the UK.

This was tried before - that's why the Shinners pulled out.  DUP still have the notion that it's 1960. They had their chance to share power on an equal basis.  Unionists showed, as in the 20's, 60's and 70's etc. etc. that they are not able to share power with nationalists.

No return to Stomont - they had their chance and blew it.

This

You do realise the unionists couldn't give a Damn about storming. They're happy with direct English rule. Tell them to stick it if ya want but it only hurts the nationalists.

Explain to me how Stormont is an improvement on Direct Rule when the DUP have a veto on anything they don't like? How will handing the control back to The DUP help nationalists? As far as the DUP are concerned it wasn't power sharing.

[Raginbull]

Mary Lou marching behind an 'England get out of Ireland' banner.  That's embarrassing.  All SF have to do is keep their mouths shut and let the DUP get the bigots prize, but they always manage something offensive.

The Shinners have played this entire brexit thing horribly from the start. Constantly bleating on about a border poll has resulted in the extreme unionists coming to the fore again and digging their heels in. Its quite conceivable that if the british leave the EU that scotland will leave the UK and NI would follow. Mary Lou doesn't seem to realise or care that even though she may get a majority in the North for a UI, if there is even a possible sniff of hassle for the south she won't get it here. People in the south are not going to suck up the initial financial hit and have the UDA planting bombs in Dublin. The best thing that SF could do is get the assembly open again, do their utmost to work with the unionists, remove as much as possible the hatred between the two and wait for the general population to get pissed off importing goods from, or going through customs checks in france, germany, spain etc and decide the benefits of the EU outweigh any of being in the UK.

This was tried before - that's why the Shinners pulled out.  DUP still have the notion that it's 1960. They had their chance to share power on an equal basis.  Unionists showed, as in the 20's, 60's and 70's etc. etc. that they are not able to share power with nationalists.

No return to Stomont - they had their chance and blew it.

This

You do realise the unionists couldn't give a Damn about storming. They're happy with direct English rule. Tell them to stick it if ya want but it only hurts the nationalists.

Explain to me how Stormont is an improvement on Direct Rule when the DUP have a veto on anything they don't like? How will handing the control back to The DUP help nationalists? As far as the DUP are concerned it wasn't power sharing.

As do SF but at least it's a step toward the right direction similar to the country looking for home rule back in the day. They understood that they were never going to get complete autonomy but it was a step in the right direction.SF seem to think it's realistic to expect the unionists to and Brits just to hand the whole lot back.

[LCohen]

Mary Lou marching behind an 'England get out of Ireland' banner.  That's embarrassing.  All SF have to do is keep their mouths shut and let the DUP get the bigots prize, but they always manage something offensive.

You are offended by a banner saying England out of Ireland?

No need for anybody to be offended. If you zoom in on the small print on the banner you can read SF's commitment to the principle of consent, a shared future and anti racism and a clarification that England was not being used as a synonym for Britain and any notion of Britishness in NI

[LCohen]

Mary Lou marching behind an 'England get out of Ireland' banner.  That's embarrassing.  All SF have to do is keep their mouths shut and let the DUP get the bigots prize, but they always manage something offensive.

The Shinners have played this entire brexit thing horribly from the start. Constantly bleating on about a border poll has resulted in the extreme unionists coming to the fore again and digging their heels in. Its quite conceivable that if the british leave the EU that scotland will leave the UK and NI would follow. Mary Lou doesn't seem to realise or care that even though she may get a majority in the North for a UI, if there is even a possible sniff of hassle for the south she won't get it here. People in the south are not going to suck up the initial financial hit and have the UDA planting bombs in Dublin. The best thing that SF could do is get the assembly open again, do their utmost to work with the unionists, remove as much as possible the hatred between the two and wait for the general population to get pissed off importing goods from, or going through customs checks in france, germany, spain etc and decide the benefits of the EU outweigh any of being in the UK.

A good starting point would be for SF to call out to their electorate that in a UI that the NI entity and Stormont would continue to exist

[LCohen]

Mary Lou marching behind an 'England get out of Ireland' banner.  That's embarrassing.  All SF have to do is keep their mouths shut and let the DUP get the bigots prize, but they always manage something offensive.

The Shinners have played this entire brexit thing horribly from the start. Constantly bleating on about a border poll has resulted in the extreme unionists coming to the fore again and digging their heels in. Its quite conceivable that if the british leave the EU that scotland will leave the UK and NI would follow. Mary Lou doesn't seem to realise or care that even though she may get a majority in the North for a UI, if there is even a possible sniff of hassle for the south she won't get it here. People in the south are not going to suck up the initial financial hit and have the UDA planting bombs in Dublin. The best thing that SF could do is get the assembly open again, do their utmost to work with the unionists, remove as much as possible the hatred between the two and wait for the general population to get pissed off importing goods from, or going through customs checks in france, germany, spain etc and decide the benefits of the EU outweigh any of being in the UK.

Yea...just like that. I can just imagine Michelle O'Neill asking Arlene to open up Stormont again. 

Working with the DUP will never work.

Eventually people will wise up to voting for these 2 parties

[Raginbull]

Mary Lou marching behind an 'England get out of Ireland' banner.  That's embarrassing.  All SF have to do is keep their mouths shut and let the DUP get the bigots prize, but they always manage something offensive.

The Shinners have played this entire brexit thing horribly from the start. Constantly bleating on about a border poll has resulted in the extreme unionists coming to the fore again and digging their heels in. Its quite conceivable that if the british leave the EU that scotland will leave the UK and NI would follow. Mary Lou doesn't seem to realise or care that even though she may get a majority in the North for a UI, if there is even a possible sniff of hassle for the south she won't get it here. People in the south are not going to suck up the initial financial hit and have the UDA planting bombs in Dublin. The best thing that SF could do is get the assembly open again, do their utmost to work with the unionists, remove as much as possible the hatred between the two and wait for the general population to get pissed off importing goods from, or going through customs checks in france, germany, spain etc and decide the benefits of the EU outweigh any of being in the UK.

A good starting point would be for SF to call out to their electorate that in a UI that the NI entity and Stormont would continue to exist

Exactly, if there is ever to be movement it has to come from the nationalist side. The unionists have no interest in moving as they already have what they want. SF can bleat on about ideals but they will never achieve a UI with the current methods

[BennyCake]

LCohen, SF and DUP can't exist without the other. They feed off each other like two leeches. We're stuck with them.

When one side spouts some shite about the other side, it riles people up to vote for "their own" again, even if they know they'll do feck all when voted in. People feel the only way to stick two fingers up at the other is to vote for their own side.

[LCohen]

LCohen, SF and DUP can't exist without the other. They feed off each other like two leeches. We're stuck with them.

When one side spouts some shite about the other side, it riles people up to vote for "their own" again, even if they know they'll do feck all when voted in. People feel the only way to stick two fingers up at the other is to vote for their own side.

So let's get rid of both.

NI is here to stay. Whether that is part of UK or UI it's here to stay. Power sharing is here to stay. People will eventually work these 2 fraudulent parties out

[Raginbull]

LCohen, SF and DUP can't exist without the other. They feed off each other like two leeches. We're stuck with them.

When one side spouts some shite about the other side, it riles people up to vote for "their own" again, even if they know they'll do feck all when voted in. People feel the only way to stick two fingers up at the other is to vote for their own side.

So let's get rid of both.

NI is here to stay. Whether that is part of UK or UI it's here to stay. Power sharing is here to stay. People will eventually work these 2 fraudulent parties out

Was just about to post the same. If the DUP need SF to exist then surely the most nationalistic thing that SF could ever do is disappear. Then the chief protagonists for animosity would be out of the picture.

[Sportacus]

Mary Lou marching behind an 'England get out of Ireland' banner.  That's embarrassing.  All SF have to do is keep their mouths shut and let the DUP get the bigots prize, but they always manage something offensive.

You are offended by a banner saying England out of Ireland?

It's stupid and a gift to the opponents of a UI.  Don't be telling me otherwise or wriggling away from the obvious.

[Jeepers Creepers]

Sinn Fein in wanting England out of Ireland shocker!

[Rossfan]

Sinn Féin signed up to the GFA which as we and they know says "England will get out of Ireland" when a majority in the 6 Cos vote for that.

[marty34]

LCohen, SF and DUP can't exist without the other. They feed off each other like two leeches. We're stuck with them.

When one side spouts some shite about the other side, it riles people up to vote for "their own" again, even if they know they'll do feck all when voted in. People feel the only way to stick two fingers up at the other is to vote for their own side.

So let's get rid of both.

NI is here to stay. Whether that is part of UK or UI it's here to stay. Power sharing is here to stay. People will eventually work these 2 fraudulent parties out

That's very naive.  There's council elections in May.  Both parties will dominate without doubt.

And that's the way elections will be from now on in the north of Ireland - a headcount.  Anybody who thinks it will be any different is very naive.