Ard Mhacha v Maigh Eo Craobh Cluiche Ceannais Peile Mionúir na hÉireann

[haveaharp]

With minor football you never can tell. Id make Mayo slight favourites seeing as they beat Down handy enough and we struggled to put Down away.

Hilarious. I think the core of the sun is the only thing comparable to how hot of favourites Armagh will be. Fine by us in Mayo though.

Hardly. Paddypower have Armagh at 8/11 and Mayo at 11/8 - not exactly overwhelming favourites

Ya but come on, how often would a bookmaker make one team overwhelming favourites in a final!! Two horse race is hardly a good judge of odds. I've seen both teams play, Armagh twice and Mayo four times.

Given Armaghs rather awful record in finals i will be punting on Mayo for this one.

[SLIGONIAN]

2 AI minor finals in a row is a good achievement in itself. Why is the favourites always so argued about?, its completely pointless.

[ross4life]

Armagh last final 1992, last win 1946........... Mayo last win 1985 since then have been beaten 1991, 1999, 2000, 2005, 2008 Finals

[ross4life]

2 AI minor finals in a row is a good achievement in itself. Why is the favourites always so argued about?, its completely pointless.

1996 & 1997 Laois got to the All ireland finals & won them both kinda better don't you think?

[Harold Disgracey]

Armagh's only minor win was in 1949.

[ross4life]

Armagh's only minor win was in 1949.

yes time you won another don't you think, & if  Mayo lose another Final that would make it 6 final defeats in a row....i would suggest them to stand aside & let others have the opportunity to win a All Ireland

[Carbery]

Anyone know the Meath and Armagh lineouts for the 1992 Minor Final, including substitutes and scorers?

[ross4life]

Anyone know the Meath and Armagh lineouts for the 1992 Minor Final, including substitutes and scorers?

Armagh......... 1 Darren Witmarsh, 2 Eamon Fearon, 3 Eddie Martin, 4 Emlyn Bratten, 5 Conor Wilson, 6 Micheal Hanratty, 7 Kevin O' Hagan, 8 Barry O' Hagan, 9 Paul McGrane, 10 Barry Hughes 11 Diarmuid Marsden, 12 Paul McNulty, 13 Declan Toner, 14 Des Mackin, 15 Niall McGleenan subs....... 16 kieran Hagan 17 kiernan Mallie, 18 andrew McCann, 19 Kieran Raffery, 20 John O kane, 21 Justin McNulty, 22 Damian Jordan, 23 John Creery, 24 Anthony Cunningham,


Meath.......1 Brendan Murphy, 2 Kenneth Cantwell, 3 John Brady,4 James Smith, 5 Paul Shankey, 6 Joe Tighe, 7 Barry Sheridan, 8 Derry Hunt, 9 Neville Dunne, 10 Kieran Harten, 11 Caimin Hall, 12 Garrett Bell, 13 Phil Duff, 14 Peter O' Sullivan 15 Trevor Giles  Subs......... 16 Niall Graven, 17 Aiden Kealy, 18 Paul Nestor, 19 Damien Hilliard, 20 Micheal Farrelly, 21 Declan Maguire, 22 Denis Gallagher, 23 James Hughes 24 Niall Walsh

Full time score Was Meath 2-5 Armagh 0-10 Maybe someone else can get the scorers for you?

[GalwayBayBoy]

With minor football you never can tell. Id make Mayo slight favourites seeing as they beat Down handy enough and we struggled to put Down away.

Hilarious. I think the core of the sun is the only thing comparable to how hot of favourites Armagh will be. Fine by us in Mayo though.

Hardly. Paddypower have Armagh at 8/11 and Mayo at 11/8 - not exactly overwhelming favourites

Ya but come on, how often would a bookmaker make one team overwhelming favourites in a final!! Two horse race is hardly a good judge of odds. I've seen both teams play, Armagh twice and Mayo four times.

Given Armaghs rather awful record in finals i will be punting on Mayo for this one.

You do realise they are playing a team with an even worse record in finals.

[Rossfan]

Tut tut Galwayboy and Ross for life.
Can't ye lave poor oul Mayo/WestRos alone and not be reminding them of All Ireland Finals

[Carbery]

Thanks Ross4life.  Much appreciated.

[TacadoirArdMhacha]

Anyone know the Meath and Armagh lineouts for the 1992 Minor Final, including substitutes and scorers?

Armagh......... 1 Darren Witmarsh, 2 Eamon Fearon, 3 Eddie Martin, 4 Emlyn Bratten, 5 Conor Wilson, 6 Micheal Hanratty, 7 Kevin O' Hagan, 8 Barry O' Hagan, 9 Paul McGrane, 10 Barry Hughes 11 Diarmuid Marsden, 12 Paul McNulty, 13 Declan Toner, 14 Des Mackin, 15 Niall McGleenan subs....... 16 kieran Hagan 17 kiernan Mallie, 18 andrew McCann, 19 Kieran Raffery, 20 John O kane, 21 Justin McNulty, 22 Damian Jordan, 23 John Creery, 24 Anthony Cunningham,


Meath.......1 Brendan Murphy, 2 Kenneth Cantwell, 3 John Brady,4 James Smith, 5 Paul Shankey, 6 Joe Tighe, 7 Barry Sheridan, 8 Derry Hunt, 9 Neville Dunne, 10 Kieran Harten, 11 Caimin Hall, 12 Garrett Bell, 13 Phil Duff, 14 Peter O' Sullivan 15 Trevor Giles  Subs......... 16 Niall Graven, 17 Aiden Kealy, 18 Paul Nestor, 19 Damien Hilliard, 20 Micheal Farrelly, 21 Declan Maguire, 22 Denis Gallagher, 23 James Hughes 24 Niall Walsh

Full time score Was Meath 2-5 Armagh 0-10 Maybe someone else can get the scorers for you?

So 3 players from the starting 15 with lengthy intercounty careers, and another 2 from the bench. About standard probably for what would have been an exceptional underage side by our standards.

We also did well from 2004 u21 crop, it drives me mad when you occasionally hear someone say that those players didn't come through - we took the 2 Mallons, the 2 Kernans and Kieran McKeever from that team along with another few players who would still be on the periphary.

[Armamike]

I don't recall too many of that Meath side making it to seniors, apart from Trevor Giles of course.  Peter O'Sullivan was probably the star name on that team at the time, looked a very useful player.

Don't know what to make of the Armagh Mayo final.  I would have confidence in the Armagh team but Mayo must break this losing streak at some point - they looked a good side in that second half against Down.  A few of the side were there last year, along with the management, so you would expect that to benefit them.  If it was anyone else other than Armagh i'd love to see them win it.

[AFS]

Anyone know the Meath and Armagh lineouts for the 1992 Minor Final, including substitutes and scorers?

Armagh......... 1 Darren Witmarsh, 2 Eamon Fearon, 3 Eddie Martin, 4 Emlyn Bratten, 5 Conor Wilson, 6 Micheal Hanratty, 7 Kevin O' Hagan, 8 Barry O' Hagan, 9 Paul McGrane, 10 Barry Hughes 11 Diarmuid Marsden, 12 Paul McNulty, 13 Declan Toner, 14 Des Mackin, 15 Niall McGleenan subs....... 16 kieran Hagan 17 kiernan Mallie, 18 andrew McCann, 19 Kieran Raffery, 20 John O kane, 21 Justin McNulty, 22 Damian Jordan, 23 John Creery, 24 Anthony Cunningham,


Meath.......1 Brendan Murphy, 2 Kenneth Cantwell, 3 John Brady,4 James Smith, 5 Paul Shankey, 6 Joe Tighe, 7 Barry Sheridan, 8 Derry Hunt, 9 Neville Dunne, 10 Kieran Harten, 11 Caimin Hall, 12 Garrett Bell, 13 Phil Duff, 14 Peter O' Sullivan 15 Trevor Giles  Subs......... 16 Niall Graven, 17 Aiden Kealy, 18 Paul Nestor, 19 Damien Hilliard, 20 Micheal Farrelly, 21 Declan Maguire, 22 Denis Gallagher, 23 James Hughes 24 Niall Walsh

Full time score Was Meath 2-5 Armagh 0-10 Maybe someone else can get the scorers for you?

So 3 players from the starting 15 with lengthy intercounty careers, and another 2 from the bench. About standard probably for what would have been an exceptional underage side by our standards.

We also did well from 2004 u21 crop, it drives me mad when you occasionally hear someone say that those players didn't come through - we took the 2 Mallons, the 2 Kernans and Kieran McKeever from that team along with another few players who would still be on the periphary.

Interesting to note that all three starters on that team that went on to have significant senior careers, along with Des Mackin and Kieran Hagan, went straight into the senior panel the next year. Has the game changed so much since then that it would be asking too much for so many fellas to make the jump at once?

[TacadoirArdMhacha]

Anyone know the Meath and Armagh lineouts for the 1992 Minor Final, including substitutes and scorers?

Armagh......... 1 Darren Witmarsh, 2 Eamon Fearon, 3 Eddie Martin, 4 Emlyn Bratten, 5 Conor Wilson, 6 Micheal Hanratty, 7 Kevin O' Hagan, 8 Barry O' Hagan, 9 Paul McGrane, 10 Barry Hughes 11 Diarmuid Marsden, 12 Paul McNulty, 13 Declan Toner, 14 Des Mackin, 15 Niall McGleenan subs....... 16 kieran Hagan 17 kiernan Mallie, 18 andrew McCann, 19 Kieran Raffery, 20 John O kane, 21 Justin McNulty, 22 Damian Jordan, 23 John Creery, 24 Anthony Cunningham,


Meath.......1 Brendan Murphy, 2 Kenneth Cantwell, 3 John Brady,4 James Smith, 5 Paul Shankey, 6 Joe Tighe, 7 Barry Sheridan, 8 Derry Hunt, 9 Neville Dunne, 10 Kieran Harten, 11 Caimin Hall, 12 Garrett Bell, 13 Phil Duff, 14 Peter O' Sullivan 15 Trevor Giles  Subs......... 16 Niall Graven, 17 Aiden Kealy, 18 Paul Nestor, 19 Damien Hilliard, 20 Micheal Farrelly, 21 Declan Maguire, 22 Denis Gallagher, 23 James Hughes 24 Niall Walsh

Full time score Was Meath 2-5 Armagh 0-10 Maybe someone else can get the scorers for you?

So 3 players from the starting 15 with lengthy intercounty careers, and another 2 from the bench. About standard probably for what would have been an exceptional underage side by our standards.

We also did well from 2004 u21 crop, it drives me mad when you occasionally hear someone say that those players didn't come through - we took the 2 Mallons, the 2 Kernans and Kieran McKeever from that team along with another few players who would still be on the periphary.

Interesting to note that all three starters on that team that went on to have significant senior careers, along with Des Mackin and Kieran Hagan, went straight into the senior panel the next year. Has the game changed so much since then that it would be asking too much for so many fellas to make the jump at once?

Not really if you consider that Kieran Toner started for us at 18 in midfield against Donegal in Ballybofey two years ago and look at the success Aidan Ó Sé, Tommy Walsh, Michael Murphy etc have had. I'd expect  2 or 3 of this year's minor panel to be in the senior panel next year and I wouldn't rule out at least 1 starter.