Time to merge the LGFA and Camogie Association under the GAA umbrella

[tiempo]

The GPA need their wings clipped, they want to eat their cake and still have their cake. Gravy train socialists, pull the funding.

[pbat]

Have going to the states requires a full transfer.

[Baile Brigín 2]

Except it's not the FAI money. It's a business person's money. And if they wish to spend it on the flavour of soccer club that interests them, then let them at it. If your desire is that they should make donations to a central body who will disperse it evenly among man, woman and child, then they might just look for a different hobby.


It's not inequality. But it's professionalism.

Yet in North America the sports have mechanisms like the draft to moderate the effect of big money in the sport.

BB - It is a form of professionalism. Except as there's no guarantees and no contracts involved, it's infinitely casual labour than a career. It's really not a whole pile different to our local contractors bringing on students over the summertime, who just happen to be much better at playing football for the same club, than they are at labouring . Would you begrudge that?

Armaghniac - I'm a massive fan of the "socialist" model of ensuring competition in top tier US sport. But when Nike and Pepsi plough 10s of millions into the NFL, it's not so that the money can be redistributed  to other sports, or to the female only version of NFL.

Begrudge? Not hugely. If you can cover a summer in Boston kicking a ball at Junior z level good luck to you.

But it's pay for play. Lets have a discussion about semi professionalism if you want, but it's another bit of wink nudge that we could do without. The GAA is either amateur or it's not. Goverment grants and expenses muddy that to a degree that it's effectively gone as a policy. Other than university scholarships nobody on the playing or coaching side should recieve a bean.

They're not receiving it from the GAA. Moan about paid managers all you like (and I'd agree with you) but a wealthy man sponsoring a lad's summer in turn for him playing for his club is not pay for play. Amateur golf has the same distinction.

The Man United player doesn't get paid by the FA. So what?

[trueblue1234]

Except it's not the FAI money. It's a business person's money. And if they wish to spend it on the flavour of soccer club that interests them, then let them at it. If your desire is that they should make donations to a central body who will disperse it evenly among man, woman and child, then they might just look for a different hobby.


It's not inequality. But it's professionalism.

Yet in North America the sports have mechanisms like the draft to moderate the effect of big money in the sport.

BB - It is a form of professionalism. Except as there's no guarantees and no contracts involved, it's infinitely casual labour than a career. It's really not a whole pile different to our local contractors bringing on students over the summertime, who just happen to be much better at playing football for the same club, than they are at labouring . Would you begrudge that?

Armaghniac - I'm a massive fan of the "socialist" model of ensuring competition in top tier US sport. But when Nike and Pepsi plough 10s of millions into the NFL, it's not so that the money can be redistributed  to other sports, or to the female only version of NFL.

Begrudge? Not hugely. If you can cover a summer in Boston kicking a ball at Junior z level good luck to you.

But it's pay for play. Lets have a discussion about semi professionalism if you want, but it's another bit of wink nudge that we could do without. The GAA is either amateur or it's not. Goverment grants and expenses muddy that to a degree that it's effectively gone as a policy. Other than university scholarships nobody on the playing or coaching side should recieve a bean.

They're not receiving it from the GAA. Moan about paid managers all you like (and I'd agree with you) but a wealthy man sponsoring a lad's summer in turn for him playing for his club is not pay for play. Amateur golf has the same distinction.

The Man United player doesn't get paid by the FA. So what?

They get paid by an affiliated club tho. Now a random fan with too much money. And they are employees with the affiliated club. There's a huge difference. And I say that as someone like to see this exodus every year.

[Baile Brigín 2]

Except it's not the FAI money. It's a business person's money. And if they wish to spend it on the flavour of soccer club that interests them, then let them at it. If your desire is that they should make donations to a central body who will disperse it evenly among man, woman and child, then they might just look for a different hobby.


It's not inequality. But it's professionalism.

Yet in North America the sports have mechanisms like the draft to moderate the effect of big money in the sport.

BB - It is a form of professionalism. Except as there's no guarantees and no contracts involved, it's infinitely casual labour than a career. It's really not a whole pile different to our local contractors bringing on students over the summertime, who just happen to be much better at playing football for the same club, than they are at labouring . Would you begrudge that?

Armaghniac - I'm a massive fan of the "socialist" model of ensuring competition in top tier US sport. But when Nike and Pepsi plough 10s of millions into the NFL, it's not so that the money can be redistributed  to other sports, or to the female only version of NFL.

Begrudge? Not hugely. If you can cover a summer in Boston kicking a ball at Junior z level good luck to you.

But it's pay for play. Lets have a discussion about semi professionalism if you want, but it's another bit of wink nudge that we could do without. The GAA is either amateur or it's not. Goverment grants and expenses muddy that to a degree that it's effectively gone as a policy. Other than university scholarships nobody on the playing or coaching side should recieve a bean.

They're not receiving it from the GAA. Moan about paid managers all you like (and I'd agree with you) but a wealthy man sponsoring a lad's summer in turn for him playing for his club is not pay for play. Amateur golf has the same distinction.

The Man United player doesn't get paid by the FA. So what?

They get paid by an affiliated club tho. Now a random fan with too much money. And they are employees with the affiliated club. There's a huge difference. And I say that as someone like to see this exodus every year.

Because soccer expressly forbids it. Look at the hullabaloo over Rooney covering Derby players wages. A likely points deduction.

As I said, this wing and nudge shite around the margins helps nobody

[thewobbler]

I know it's sometimes hard to believe in a world now polarised by social media, but there are actually thousands of shades of grey between black and white.

This one isn't black or white.

[Baile Brigín 2]

I know it's sometimes hard to believe in a world now polarised by social media, but there are actually thousands of shades of grey between black and white.

This one isn't black or white.

Intellectual flexibility was required once grants were brought in. It's not professionalism if someone else pays players.

You can call that grey if you want. I'll stick with dishonest.

[rosnarun]

i can never understand the weekend player in New york as to who gains. i get the county player going over for the championship and be  hauled around  for showing off or getting business or what ever but what in it for anyone but the player for a weekend warrior.

is it betting on the matches or is it really done for Pride.

[Baile Brigín 2]

i can never understand the weekend player in New york as to who gains. i get the county player going over for the championship and be  hauled around  for showing off or getting business or what ever but what in it for anyone but the player for a weekend warrior.

is it betting on the matches or is it really done for Pride.

Be honest. Do you know who won the US championship? I didn't and took a fair while on google to find out.

[Eamonnca1]

Have going to the states requires a full transfer.

If you're going for 90 days you need a J1 student visa and a sanction from your club in Ireland.

For New York, I don't know if they still do weekend players but I believe a sanction is needed for them too.

If you're going permanently you need an intercounty transfer.

If you've never played before then I don't think you need anything.

[FermGael]

https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/arid-40913051.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

[Cavan19]

https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/arid-40913051.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

They need to grow a pair.

[thewobbler]

https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/arid-40913051.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

They need to grow a pair.

Not as much as they need to grow an income stream.

[tiempo]

Don't worry, The GPA The42 will have something out disparaging towards GAA HQ and soon enough

[shark]

The money is not there. This cost is a big issue for the GAA too, even though they can currently afford it. The main problem is we have normalised a situation where young people are driving insane mileage in order to keep up their hobby.