RG at arms length

Started by seafoid, May 15, 2023, 11:40:53 AM

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NormPeterson

#435
Quote from: nrico2006 on October 10, 2023, 10:40:19 PMHow can you get a lifetime ban from the GAA, i.e. what are the actual offences in the rulebook that warrant such a ban?

There are players playing currently who have actually done worse than what Gallagher has allegedly done, should they get life bans too?

There is a GAA youtuber who often invites a former player onto his podcast. This player was in court for abusing his girlfriend and threatening to kill her, there are newspaper articles about it. I sent the youtuber a link on twitter and he blocked me. Human hypocrisy knows no bounds.

ck

Quote from: mrdeeds on October 11, 2023, 10:30:52 AMCorduff trained in Louth.

Yes, and RG was training them up till last Thurs night. Ulster council ruling doesnt apply in Leinster.

Armagh18

Where do you draw the line on it? Plus the fact is that he hasn't been convicted of anything. If someone has done time and paid their debt to society so to speak should they not be allowed back to play/coach?

johnnycool

Quote from: Armagh18 on October 11, 2023, 11:56:15 PMWhere do you draw the line on it? Plus the fact is that he hasn't been convicted of anything. If someone has done time and paid their debt to society so to speak should they not be allowed back to play/coach?

Is he even under investigation by the PSNI/Garda?

square_ball

Quote from: ck on October 11, 2023, 10:16:12 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on October 11, 2023, 10:30:52 AMCorduff trained in Louth.

Yes, and RG was training them up till last Thurs night. Ulster council ruling doesnt apply in Leinster.

After the antics doing the rounds from their match against Scotstown that isn't surprising.

tbrick18

Quote from: Wildweasel74 on October 11, 2023, 06:23:22 PMRight I played a few years where our midfielder had done  no.of years for IRA post office robberies plus a ton of semtex in the roof space in a small housing estate. Playing on the other team was his OC in the Maze that had been in for top level serious activity. Playing away in Derry, Not a issue, I knew dodgy drug dealers playing too, again not a word said. So how had Gallagher done any worse than them lads who never got suspended for what they done.

That's the point I'm trying to make.
The subjective moral high ground dictated by social media is not how it should be done.
Either we accept the legal processes have done their part and we go with that, or we define a set of principles within the organisation that clearly state who can/cannot be involved.
This case by case, depending on social media outrage, approach is subjective and unbalanced.
I in no way condone domestic abuse, but if courts and PPS have nothing to prosecute and the GAA has no written rules then how can RG be removed from the GAA?

tiempo

Quote from: tbrick18 on October 12, 2023, 10:27:36 AM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on October 11, 2023, 06:23:22 PMRight I played a few years where our midfielder had done  no.of years for IRA post office robberies plus a ton of semtex in the roof space in a small housing estate. Playing on the other team was his OC in the Maze that had been in for top level serious activity. Playing away in Derry, Not a issue, I knew dodgy drug dealers playing too, again not a word said. So how had Gallagher done any worse than them lads who never got suspended for what they done.

That's the point I'm trying to make.
The subjective moral high ground dictated by social media is not how it should be done.
Either we accept the legal processes have done their part and we go with that, or we define a set of principles within the organisation that clearly state who can/cannot be involved.
This case by case, depending on social media outrage, approach is subjective and unbalanced.
I in no way condone domestic abuse, but if courts and PPS have nothing to prosecute and the GAA has no written rules then how can RG be removed from the GAA?


The court of public opinion is far from ideal, weak of the GAA to implement a suspension under that premise if true, completely insane for a Monaghan club team to travel to Louth for training to get around that suspension if true, weak from the club and players point of view

nrico2006

Wonder if DJ Carey will get a lifetime ban? In saying that, Hackett, McCarron etc. never got one so maybe he won't either.
'To the extreme I rock a mic like a vandal, light up a stage and wax a chump like a candle.'

Main Street

Quote from: nrico2006 on November 04, 2023, 02:34:17 PMWonder if DJ Carey will get a lifetime ban? In saying that, Hackett, McCarron etc. never got one so maybe he won't either.
In 2020 the GAA committed itself to an intl charter which takes action against male violence towards women, the RG investigation has not yet been concluded.

Wildweasel74

What about male on male violence, the face biter shouldn't be allowed to kick a ball again but u the club had any balls they just show him the road.


tbrick18

Quote from: LC on February 28, 2024, 11:21:06 AMhttps://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/arid-41341502.html#:~:text=Former%20Derry%20manager%20Rory%20Gallagher's,precluded%20him%20from%20coaching%20teams.



That's interesting. So Ulster GAA couldn't debar him and so he's free to coach and manage.
I wonder why this took so long as I assume the debarring could have been brought to DRA at the time rather than Feb this year. Perhaps RG was collecting evidence or an investigation concluded?

seafoid

Quote from: tbrick18 on February 28, 2024, 12:12:49 PM
Quote from: LC on February 28, 2024, 11:21:06 AMhttps://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/arid-41341502.html#:~:text=Former%20Derry%20manager%20Rory%20Gallagher's,precluded%20him%20from%20coaching%20teams.



That's interesting. So Ulster GAA couldn't debar him and so he's free to coach and manage.
I wonder why this took so long as I assume the debarring could have been brought to DRA at the time rather than Feb this year. Perhaps RG was collecting evidence or an investigation concluded?

He is in the same orbit as sue me Paddy Jackson, who never got to play for Ireland again

JoG2

#448
"Gallagher had been temporarily barred by the Ulster Council as they commissioned a safeguarding panel to look into domestic abuse allegations pertaining to his private life."

Not really sure what the point of this was. If they catch wind of brown envelope payments, drug use, various forms of abuse etc.., I wonder is this just the start of the panel's investigations into member's private lives?

quit yo jibbajabba

Be a brave team takes him on tbh ..