Hurling Championship 2017

Started by seafoid, May 19, 2017, 10:02:07 AM

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manfromdelmonte

Quote from: AZOffaly on June 30, 2017, 11:22:43 AM
Quote from: Syferus on June 27, 2017, 09:33:20 PM
What's the weird, scummy story with the Tipp keeper about? Stealing 32 grand off an old man? And he's going to play on Sunday?

Brutal stuff. Gambling addiction apparently. Not playing on Sunday, and should be dropped off the panel post haste.
its a very common issue


AZOffaly

It is, it's frightening. But robbing an elderly man, when you are in a position of trust, is beyond the pale.

johnneycool

Quote from: AZOffaly on June 30, 2017, 12:18:12 PM
It is, it's frightening. But robbing an elderly man, when you are in a position of trust, is beyond the pale.

Has it went to court yet? I knew he was charged at the tail end of last year.

Desperate stuff altogether.

AZOffaly

He pleaded guilty on Monday or Tuesday there. 3.5 years suspended sentence.

Minder

Quote from: manfromdelmonte on June 30, 2017, 12:07:47 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on June 30, 2017, 11:22:43 AM
Quote from: Syferus on June 27, 2017, 09:33:20 PM
What's the weird, scummy story with the Tipp keeper about? Stealing 32 grand off an old man? And he's going to play on Sunday?

Brutal stuff. Gambling addiction apparently. Not playing on Sunday, and should be dropped off the panel post haste.
its a very common issue

Stealing money off an old man ?
"When it's too tough for them, it's just right for us"

Kilkevan

Both the new and old stands are sold out in Nowlan Park tomorrow. Should be a good atmosphere.

manfromdelmonte

Quote from: Minder on June 30, 2017, 07:19:02 PM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on June 30, 2017, 12:07:47 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on June 30, 2017, 11:22:43 AM
Quote from: Syferus on June 27, 2017, 09:33:20 PM
What's the weird, scummy story with the Tipp keeper about? Stealing 32 grand off an old man? And he's going to play on Sunday?

Brutal stuff. Gambling addiction apparently. Not playing on Sunday, and should be dropped off the panel post haste.
its a very common issue

Stealing money off an old man ?
no that's abhorrent behaviour

gambling.
second county player in court in the past few months over stealing to cover his gambling addiction

Minder

Quote from: manfromdelmonte on June 30, 2017, 10:06:58 PM
Quote from: Minder on June 30, 2017, 07:19:02 PM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on June 30, 2017, 12:07:47 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on June 30, 2017, 11:22:43 AM
Quote from: Syferus on June 27, 2017, 09:33:20 PM
What's the weird, scummy story with the Tipp keeper about? Stealing 32 grand off an old man? And he's going to play on Sunday?

Brutal stuff. Gambling addiction apparently. Not playing on Sunday, and should be dropped off the panel post haste.
its a very common issue

Stealing money off an old man ?
no that's abhorrent behaviour

gambling.
second county player in court in the past few months over stealing to cover his gambling addiction

There are sc**bag county players, they seem to get more of a pass though with some when something like this happens. It then becomes an "addiction" or an "illness", only after they are caught though.
"When it's too tough for them, it's just right for us"

macdanger2

The amount of advertising the gambling companies do is unbelievable, not to mention the sponsorship. Gambling is an epidemic at this stage, you rarely talk about a game without referring to the odds and then it's so easy to add money to your account and bet on literally anything. Govts and sporting associations need to do something to stem this ASAP but you rarely hear from either on it

Kilkevan

Quote from: macdanger2 on July 01, 2017, 12:07:45 AM
The amount of advertising the gambling companies do is unbelievable, not to mention the sponsorship. Gambling is an epidemic at this stage, you rarely talk about a game without referring to the odds and then it's so easy to add money to your account and bet on literally anything. Govts and sporting associations need to do something to stem this ASAP but you rarely hear from either on it

I'm not excusing what Darren Gleeson has done, it's disgusting. However, there is a worrying trend among sportspeople, especially so, it would seem, in the GAA towards gambling addiction. In some ways, what Gleeson has done is easier to come back from than Cathal McCarron's situation. Gleeson will lead a period of deep shame and will likely be ostracised for a time by people in his community. He can, in time, rebuild his life though and come back from this and eventually it will become yesterday's news. McCarron's video will be there for all to see for the rest of his life. I know he has family issues but that's his own business. Arguably, what McCarron did was victimless but he'll probably end up paying a heavier price than Gleeson.

The sad reality of both situations though is that these are the tip of the iceberg. There are plenty of people with gambling addictions who don't cross moral boundaries. Oisín McConville is a good example within GAA circles. It's high time the GAA and the GPA seriously tackled this issue and the problem of the extremely high levels of pressure put on intercounty players whilst still being expected to live normal lives. Other sports are not immune but professional players have circles around them of constant attention to their every need.

macdanger2

It's not just players either, I'd safely say gambling is more widespread now than it's ever been

seafoid

Quote from: Kilkevan on July 01, 2017, 11:09:22 AM
Quote from: macdanger2 on July 01, 2017, 12:07:45 AM
The amount of advertising the gambling companies do is unbelievable, not to mention the sponsorship. Gambling is an epidemic at this stage, you rarely talk about a game without referring to the odds and then it's so easy to add money to your account and bet on literally anything. Govts and sporting associations need to do something to stem this ASAP but you rarely hear from either on it

I'm not excusing what Darren Gleeson has done, it's disgusting. However, there is a worrying trend among sportspeople, especially so, it would seem, in the GAA towards gambling addiction. In some ways, what Gleeson has done is easier to come back from than Cathal McCarron's situation. Gleeson will lead a period of deep shame and will likely be ostracised for a time by people in his community. He can, in time, rebuild his life though and come back from this and eventually it will become yesterday's news. McCarron's video will be there for all to see for the rest of his life. I know he has family issues but that's his own business. Arguably, what McCarron did was victimless but he'll probably end up paying a heavier price than Gleeson.

The sad reality of both situations though is that these are the tip of the iceberg. There are plenty of people with gambling addictions who don't cross moral boundaries. Oisín McConville is a good example within GAA circles. It's high time the GAA and the GPA seriously tackled this issue and the problem of the extremely high levels of pressure put on intercounty players whilst still being expected to live normal lives. Other sports are not immune but professional players have circles around them of constant attention to their every need.
Gambling is basically unregulated in Ireland with its laissez faire approach.  The big betting companies are all merging with each other to try to squeeze more profit out. A certain proportion of people are vulnerable to addiction and there is more or less no protection for them. If you can name 3 or 4 GAA victims,  imagine how many civilian families are impacted.
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

laoislad

When you think you're fucked you're only about 40% fucked.

Kilkevan

Quote from: seafoid on July 01, 2017, 01:50:56 PM
Quote from: Kilkevan on July 01, 2017, 11:09:22 AM
Quote from: macdanger2 on July 01, 2017, 12:07:45 AM
The amount of advertising the gambling companies do is unbelievable, not to mention the sponsorship. Gambling is an epidemic at this stage, you rarely talk about a game without referring to the odds and then it's so easy to add money to your account and bet on literally anything. Govts and sporting associations need to do something to stem this ASAP but you rarely hear from either on it

I'm not excusing what Darren Gleeson has done, it's disgusting. However, there is a worrying trend among sportspeople, especially so, it would seem, in the GAA towards gambling addiction. In some ways, what Gleeson has done is easier to come back from than Cathal McCarron's situation. Gleeson will lead a period of deep shame and will likely be ostracised for a time by people in his community. He can, in time, rebuild his life though and come back from this and eventually it will become yesterday's news. McCarron's video will be there for all to see for the rest of his life. I know he has family issues but that's his own business. Arguably, what McCarron did was victimless but he'll probably end up paying a heavier price than Gleeson.

The sad reality of both situations though is that these are the tip of the iceberg. There are plenty of people with gambling addictions who don't cross moral boundaries. Oisín McConville is a good example within GAA circles. It's high time the GAA and the GPA seriously tackled this issue and the problem of the extremely high levels of pressure put on intercounty players whilst still being expected to live normal lives. Other sports are not immune but professional players have circles around them of constant attention to their every need.
Gambling is basically unregulated in Ireland with its laissez faire approach.  The big betting companies are all merging with each other to try to squeeze more profit out. A certain proportion of people are vulnerable to addiction and there is more or less no protection for them. If you can name 3 or 4 GAA victims,  imagine how many civilian families are impacted.

Not saying that civilians are immune to it. It's obviously a far bigger issue than we know about. Top GAA players are celebrities in Ireland though and subsequently accessing help is not as easy as for an unknown. It's not simple for a Joe Bloggs either but imagine accessing help knowing everyone will know who you are and probably a reasonable amount about your private life. That's one of the reasons the GAA and GPA need to do something.

seafoid

"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU