Tyrone County Football and Hurling

[Fuzzman]

Have they brought in new players to replace these guys or will they?
Why do we seem to have this problem more than any other county?

[GaelTheGael]

Took a stab at latest panel (ages at start of 2023)

32 - Peter Harte, Mattie Donnelly
31 - Niall Morgan, Ronan McNamee
30 - Niall Sludden, Richie Donnelly

29 - Darren McCurry
28 - Padraig Hampsey, Kieran McGeary, Conor Meyler
27 - Frank Burns, Cathal McShane

26 - Michael O'Neill, Niall Kelly
25 - Michael McKernan, Conn Kilpatrick, David Mulgrew
24 - Brian Kennedy, Conor Shields, Dalaigh Jones

23 - Aidan Clarke, Nathan McCarron, Peter Og McCartan
22 - Darragh Canavan, Lorcan Quinn, Joe Oguz, Ryan Jones
21 - Cormac Quinn, Rory Donnelly

20 - Niall Devlin, Michael McGleenan
19 - Ruairi Canavan, Conor Cush, Seanie O'Donnell, James Donaghy

Don't think any of below are still involved?
Padraig McNulty, Nathan Donnelly, Peter Teague, Steve Donaghy, Eoin Corry

McCartan played for Errigal. He must be away as well.

Thats four men gone from the panel in the last few weeks alone - Benny Gallen, Peter Og McCartan, Cormac Munroe, Liam Rafferty

Need a serious end of season review

Conor Shields has left the panel as well.

[Mikhailov]

Have they brought in new players to replace these guys or will they?
Why do we seem to have this problem more than any other county?

Not easy to sit on the bench, train flat out for 6 weeks and then see the same team picked week after week.

I honestly think all those players who have left this year and in recent seasons would remain on the panel if those not involved in the 21 man match day player panel were allowed to play club football to keep their match sharpness up between county fixtures. Some other counties allow it so it must be a decision that is left up to each individual county

[LeoMc]

Took a stab at latest panel (ages at start of 2023)

32 - Peter Harte, Mattie Donnelly
31 - Niall Morgan, Ronan McNamee
30 - Niall Sludden, Richie Donnelly

29 - Darren McCurry
28 - Padraig Hampsey, Kieran McGeary, Conor Meyler
27 - Frank Burns, Cathal McShane

26 - Michael O'Neill, Niall Kelly
25 - Michael McKernan, Conn Kilpatrick, David Mulgrew
24 - Brian Kennedy, Conor Shields, Dalaigh Jones

23 - Aidan Clarke, Nathan McCarron, Peter Og McCartan
22 - Darragh Canavan, Lorcan Quinn, Joe Oguz, Ryan Jones
21 - Cormac Quinn, Rory Donnelly

20 - Niall Devlin, Michael McGleenan
19 - Ruairi Canavan, Conor Cush, Seanie O'Donnell, James Donaghy

Don't think any of below are still involved?
Padraig McNulty, Nathan Donnelly, Peter Teague, Steve Donaghy, Eoin Corry

McCartan played for Errigal. He must be away as well.

Thats four men gone from the panel in the last few weeks alone - Benny Gallen, Peter Og McCartan, Cormac Munroe, Liam Rafferty

Need a serious end of season review

Was Conor Quinn not still part of the panel at the beginning of the year also?

[God14]

Took a stab at latest panel (ages at start of 2023)

32 - Peter Harte, Mattie Donnelly
31 - Niall Morgan, Ronan McNamee
30 - Niall Sludden, Richie Donnelly

29 - Darren McCurry
28 - Padraig Hampsey, Kieran McGeary, Conor Meyler
27 - Frank Burns, Cathal McShane

26 - Michael O'Neill, Niall Kelly
25 - Michael McKernan, Conn Kilpatrick, David Mulgrew
24 - Brian Kennedy, Conor Shields, Dalaigh Jones

23 - Aidan Clarke, Nathan McCarron, Peter Og McCartan
22 - Darragh Canavan, Lorcan Quinn, Joe Oguz, Ryan Jones
21 - Cormac Quinn, Rory Donnelly

20 - Niall Devlin, Michael McGleenan
19 - Ruairi Canavan, Conor Cush, Seanie O'Donnell, James Donaghy

Don't think any of below are still involved?
Padraig McNulty, Nathan Donnelly, Peter Teague, Steve Donaghy, Eoin Corry

McCartan played for Errigal. He must be away as well.

Thats four men gone from the panel in the last few weeks alone - Benny Gallen, Peter Og McCartan, Cormac Munroe, Liam Rafferty

Need a serious end of season review

Was Conor Quinn not still part of the panel at the beginning of the year also?

yeah, he opted out as well.

[Jerome]

 I would not worry about opt outs. There is always willing players to take their place.

[NotedObserver]

As long as it doesn't impact morale. In recent years the opt outs that have been most missed on the pitch are probable t mccann, Bradley and r Brennan.

A lot of them would impact the level of in house games

[God14]

As long as it doesn't impact morale. In recent years the opt outs that have been most missed on the pitch are probable t mccann, Bradley and r Brennan.

A lot of them would impact the level of in house games

Player turnover is a massive drain. Time, effort & commitment work both ways

[bogball88]

Took a stab at latest panel (ages at start of 2023)

32 - Peter Harte, Mattie Donnelly
31 - Niall Morgan, Ronan McNamee
30 - Niall Sludden, Richie Donnelly

29 - Darren McCurry
28 - Padraig Hampsey, Kieran McGeary, Conor Meyler
27 - Frank Burns, Cathal McShane

26 - Michael O'Neill, Niall Kelly
25 - Michael McKernan, Conn Kilpatrick, David Mulgrew
24 - Brian Kennedy, Conor Shields, Dalaigh Jones

23 - Aidan Clarke, Nathan McCarron, Peter Og McCartan
22 - Darragh Canavan, Lorcan Quinn, Joe Oguz, Ryan Jones
21 - Cormac Quinn, Rory Donnelly

20 - Niall Devlin, Michael McGleenan
19 - Ruairi Canavan, Conor Cush, Seanie O'Donnell, James Donaghy

Don't think any of below are still involved?
Padraig McNulty, Nathan Donnelly, Peter Teague, Steve Donaghy, Eoin Corry

Surely he is nowhere near the panel now?

[Redhand Santa]

Have they brought in new players to replace these guys or will they?
Why do we seem to have this problem more than any other county?

Not easy to sit on the bench, train flat out for 6 weeks and then see the same team picked week after week.

I honestly think all those players who have left this year and in recent seasons would remain on the panel if those not involved in the 21 man match day player panel were allowed to play club football to keep their match sharpness up between county fixtures. Some other counties allow it so it must be a decision that is left up to each individual county

Munroe got on v Monaghan and made the panel for Galway game and still left.

If I was a county manager taking over next year I'd be meeting the county board looking changes. It has to effect the quality of panel so many players leaving once the club season starts. The options that I see are:

1) Do the starred fixtures ahead of the ulster championship. If you commit to the panel at that point which is early April then you can't play starred games after that date (given the starred fixtures are meant to be based on number of county players it could be argued that this is fair).
2) Delay the start of the club season until late June (it might involve some double fixtures over the summer to get games played and a seperate pre season club comp in May/June).
3) Trial allowing the sub keeper and players not in a match day 26 on Thursday night being allowed to play in that weekend club games.

You could do any of those options and players still huff when not on and clear off to America to play but it should definitely reduce players leaving. We are becoming a joke compared to other counties in this regard. Questions have to be asked of management as well.

[Tyrone95]

Have they brought in new players to replace these guys or will they?
Why do we seem to have this problem more than any other county?

Agree with that, I don't think a change of management would even tempt those players to come back into the setup either. 

Mark Bradley, R Brennan, J Munroe, T Mccann (albeit age), E McNabb + a few others all would add serious depth to the existing setup if they were still about - Tyrone's bench at the minute has no game changers with the exception of Ruairi Canavan.

[Quarterbackk]

I would not worry about opt outs. There is always willing players to take their place.

You wouldn't worry about opt outs.  I would.  Mark Bradley kicked 2-7 at the weekend - Perhaps if our game is to defensive minded.

[marty34]

I would not worry about opt outs. There is always willing players to take their place.

You wouldn't worry about opt outs.  I would.  Mark Bradley kicked 2-7 at the weekend - Perhaps if our game is to defensive minded.

Lads from 1 - 20 know they have a chance of playing.

Other lads from say, 21 -32 or whatever probably know where they stand.  Some realise it'd be better for them to play with the club.

Managers should realise players from the panel to get game time I think.  Keep them happy and keep the clubs happy.

Hard to train and train and know you've little chance of coming on.

[Fear ón Srath Bán]

As a few of us were discussing, the fact that the League in Tír Eoghain directly determines your Championship status, unlike nearly every other county, weighs very heavily on fringe players' minds, leading to the leaching of those players back to the clubs, as we're seeing right now.

[sam03/05]

Other counties don't have as many - prob because in other counties the club league is a series of glorified friendlies - in Derry for example it has no bearing on promotion or relegation
This is all based on championship - as a result county players are not too bothered about it.