Gaelic Football - Rules & Regulations discussion/clarification

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Milltown Row2

Quote from: lenny on June 12, 2024, 09:21:57 AMWhy would a brilliant team move involving lots of players followed by a deft finish from 25/30 yards out only be worth half the value of a long hopeful kick from 45/50 yards. It's a ludicrous idea. If you do want to reward long range points then they should be worth 3 points with 2 for a normal point and 5 for a goal. That way a long hopeful kick with the wind is only worth 1.5 times the value of a shorter range point at the end of a brilliant move.

The scoring zone is the 21 in todays football. a deft finish is inside the 14
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RedHand88

Quote from: lenny on June 12, 2024, 09:21:57 AMWhy would a brilliant team move involving lots of players followed by a deft finish from 25/30 yards out only be worth half the value of a long hopeful kick from 45/50 yards. It's a ludicrous idea. If you do want to reward long range points then they should be worth 3 points with 2 for a normal point and 5 for a goal. That way a long hopeful kick with the wind is only worth 1.5 times the value of a shorter range point at the end of a brilliant move.

Meh works OK in basketball.

thewobbler

People born with a longer leg already have intrinsic advantages in football:

1. They can move the ball out of danger further.

2. They can attempt and take scores from distances that are impossible for most footballers.

3. When in the scoring zone - around the D - they can score with little more than a deft flick. It's still a difficult kick for most.

Why we would want any rule that hands this group a further - and absolutely f**king giant - advantage just bewilders me.

You can do leg weights and practice kicking all day every day, and your gains will be marginal. You simply cannot put 5 yards onto your kick.

So this isn't rewarding skill and practice, any more than would be awarding a point for running fast.

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Basketball comparisons are apples and pears. Any 13 year old can drop them in from 3-point range. I'd estimate that 50% of county players and 75% of club players couldn't point from 45m in calm conditions.

Armagh18

https://www.balls.ie/gaa/football-review-group-600899

30-50 metre advancement for tactical fouling is abit of a joke. Tactical fouls have their place in the game. And anyway how are you going to decide what was a genuine attempt to tackle or what was a deliberate foul

JoG2

Quote from: Armagh18 on June 12, 2024, 07:42:56 PMhttps://www.balls.ie/gaa/football-review-group-600899

30-50 metre advancement for tactical fouling is abit of a joke. Tactical fouls have their place in the game. And anyway how are you going to decide what was a genuine attempt to tackle or what was a deliberate foul

An absolute blight on the game.. Players taking it turn to hug tackle the player in possession, stop any momentum. It's not a black card offence and a player could do it half a dozen times in a game before he gets a yellow


Brutal to watch

LeoMc

Quote from: Jell 0 Biafra on June 12, 2024, 12:08:26 AM
Quote from: dec on June 11, 2024, 03:49:39 PM"1v1 for all throw-ins"

That is almost what it is like at the moment. In most of the games I have seen, one pair of players push each other while the other pair compete for the ball.

I thought that was the rule
I assume this is th
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 12, 2024, 08:44:43 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on June 12, 2024, 08:29:11 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 12, 2024, 07:29:47 AM
Quote from: Jell 0 Biafra on June 12, 2024, 12:08:26 AM
Quote from: dec on June 11, 2024, 03:49:39 PM"1v1 for all throw-ins"

That is almost what it is like at the moment. In most of the games I have seen, one pair of players push each other while the other pair compete for the ball.

I thought that was the rule

By rule, if another player other than the two competing for the ball takes possession of the ball first then he has fouled the ball by being less than 13 meters from where ball is thrown up.

Done it a few times and players and line lose it! Again people not knowing the rules

Depends on how long it look them to gain possession and should you be throwing the ball up/in if the players aren't the pre-requisite 13 metres away?



They can't control it at intercounty, even harder when I'm at a club game with no linesmen to help. What it does do when I call it is it settles down a normally heated engagement with players.

As for the how long it takes him to gain possession, he'd have to have some pace on him to make 13 meters before the two that are competing for the ball. Also if I waited for all players to move back 13 meters for a hop ball then I'd make it easier on myself and blow the match up early, as they won't move back

Is the new rule not in relation to the throw in at the start of each half, rather than hop balls.
2nd midfielder to be back with the HB line.

Milltown Row2

Quote from: LeoMc on June 12, 2024, 10:10:57 PM
Quote from: Jell 0 Biafra on June 12, 2024, 12:08:26 AM
Quote from: dec on June 11, 2024, 03:49:39 PM"1v1 for all throw-ins"

That is almost what it is like at the moment. In most of the games I have seen, one pair of players push each other while the other pair compete for the ball.

I thought that was the rule
I assume this is th
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 12, 2024, 08:44:43 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on June 12, 2024, 08:29:11 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 12, 2024, 07:29:47 AM
Quote from: Jell 0 Biafra on June 12, 2024, 12:08:26 AM
Quote from: dec on June 11, 2024, 03:49:39 PM"1v1 for all throw-ins"

That is almost what it is like at the moment. In most of the games I have seen, one pair of players push each other while the other pair compete for the ball.

I thought that was the rule

By rule, if another player other than the two competing for the ball takes possession of the ball first then he has fouled the ball by being less than 13 meters from where ball is thrown up.

Done it a few times and players and line lose it! Again people not knowing the rules

Depends on how long it look them to gain possession and should you be throwing the ball up/in if the players aren't the pre-requisite 13 metres away?



They can't control it at intercounty, even harder when I'm at a club game with no linesmen to help. What it does do when I call it is it settles down a normally heated engagement with players.

As for the how long it takes him to gain possession, he'd have to have some pace on him to make 13 meters before the two that are competing for the ball. Also if I waited for all players to move back 13 meters for a hop ball then I'd make it easier on myself and blow the match up early, as they won't move back

Is the new rule not in relation to the throw in at the start of each half, rather than hop balls.
2nd midfielder to be back with the HB line.

Why is that a hassle in the game? For the restarting the game is the best of the throw ins as there is less players about
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Lucifer

Throw ups should be vastly reduced by following a similar principle to rugby and just overturning a free due to foul play/dissent etc.  Throw up's often flare up incidents, whereas if the play was overturned to the opposition then the game can begin straight away and leave less standing around waiting for aggro to start!  Only scenarios where it is not known who the ball should be awarded too (e.g. a line ball) should there be a throw up.

Keyser soze

People complaining about that football has become just like basketball.

Also people: lets introduce threepointers and a shot clock.

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Milltown Row2

None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

inroundthesquare

#1138
Can't believe the media seem to be backing the 2 point line - absolutely bizzare suggestion. Changing the scoring system is far far too radical. There are plenty of smart people in the FRC so I hope they come to their senses. Colm Boyle on Off the Ball is the only pundit I seen calling it out for what it is.

ONeill

MR is the only one who can tell, on here, what might work from a ref's level but you'd like to think that's happening at HQ too.
I wanna have my kicks before the whole shithouse goes up in flames.