Brexit.

Started by T Fearon, November 01, 2015, 06:04:06 PM

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Hereiam

As said before the shit is starting to get real now.  All this ole soft talk by the British government is fooling alot of the younger generation into thinking everything is going to remain as it is. The British government are the experts at PR spin, and will talk down the whole checkpoint/border control even while it will be happening on the ground but once the check points go up is the only time that people will realise what is happening and then its too late.

Windmill abu

Quote from: armaghniac on July 10, 2018, 06:56:19 AM
Quote from: under the bar on July 10, 2018, 12:44:28 AM
Quote from: trailer on July 09, 2018, 05:29:26 PM
Quote from: red hander on July 09, 2018, 05:06:53 PM
DUP seeing their wee power strip disappearing into the ether ... slap it up the b**tards (like Jnr slaps it up ELP)

I'm pretty sure this is libellous.  :-X

How can it be libellous without naming anyone?

I don't think using their initials quite meets the anonymity test. If we know who is meant then so does everyone else.

So who is slapping it up Emerson Lake and Palmer?
Never underestimate the power of complaining

johnnycool

Quote from: balladmaker on July 09, 2018, 08:16:36 PM
Jacob Rees Mogg, brexiteer in chief, has set up his company in Ireland so it can continue to operate in the EU, hypocrite of the highest order!

This one;

"https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/jacob-rees-mogg-says-jeremy-corbyns-claim-about-his-business-interests-are-false-news_uk_5b337b0be4b0cb56051dd4f6"


sensethetone

Quote from: Windmill abu on July 10, 2018, 10:41:31 AM
Quote from: armaghniac on July 10, 2018, 06:56:19 AM
Quote from: under the bar on July 10, 2018, 12:44:28 AM
Quote from: trailer on July 09, 2018, 05:29:26 PM
Quote from: red hander on July 09, 2018, 05:06:53 PM
DUP seeing their wee power strip disappearing into the ether ... slap it up the b**tards (like Jnr slaps it up ELP)

I'm pretty sure this is libellous.  :-X

How can it be libellous without naming anyone?

I don't think using their initials quite meets the anonymity test. If we know who is meant then so does everyone else.

So who is slapping it up Emerson Lake and Palmer?

So there's an injunction regarding this matter?

heganboy

Barges.
Barges?
Seriously Barges????

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/jul/11/whitehalls-potty-plan-to-keep-ni-lights-on-if-no-brexit-deal



A flotilla of barges would be sent to the coast of Northern Ireland with energy generators after Brexit to keep the region's lights on in the event of no deal, according to reports on Wednesday.

The scheme, which has been described as "potty" by business leaders in Northern Ireland, is said to be part of contingency planning by Whitehall mandarins in case the UK crashes out of the EU, smashing Ireland's all-island electricity supply in its wake.

The issue has arisen because Northern Ireland relies on imports from Ireland for electricity supply as part of a ground-breaking single energy market deal struck in the wake of the Good Friday Agreement.


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According to a leak to the Financial Times, the plan would involve bringing back equipment from military zones such as Afghanistan to build up capacity in the Irish Sea.

Thousands of electricity generators would have to be requisitioned at short notice.



Conor Patterson, chief executive of the Newry and Mourne Enterprise Agency, said: "It seems a potty idea to me. That they have even contemplated this, even if it is blue-sky thinking, is difficult to comprehend. How would this work? Would we be on a three-day week? Would we have electricity rationed?

"Would the barges be run on gas, on coal, nuclear fuel, how would it work? It's an apocalyptic scenario."

The Department for Exiting the European Union said: "We have made good progress on this and a number of other issues during recent negotiations and remain confident that we can reach a deep and broad free trade agreement with the EU. However, as a responsible government, we will continue to prepare for all scenarios, including the highly unlikely outcome that we leave the EU without any deal next March."

No-deal contingency planning is being stepped up right across Europe, with Whitehall and civil servants in Ireland, France, Belgium and Holland in particular making plans for the worst possible scenario on 29 March next year.

Her Majesty's Revenue & Customs said on Wednesday that it would cost businesses an extra £17bn to £20bn a year in administration if they were obliged to fill out customs declarations forms after Brexit.

HMRC's chief executive, Jon Thompson, told the public accounts select committee that there were around 100,000 businesses with no experience at all of filling out customs declarations forms with more than 50 data fields.


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He is currently in talks with ministers on how to reach those businesses but admitted they could not start a communications or awareness programme until the government's Brexit position was settled.

One MP said small firms would go bust if they had to bear those sort of costs, especially after being told the amount HMRC collects on cross-border trade is less than double that at £38.5bn a year.

"Do you really think this is a sensible taxation system?" asked Sir Geoffrey Clifton-Brown, Conservative MP for the Cotswolds, of the public accounts committee. "Won't this put lot of small businesses out of business?"

Thompson told him it was not his place to comment: "We just give ministers the advice."

Never underestimate the predictability of stupidity

seafoid

Quote from: heganboy on July 11, 2018, 08:06:03 PM
Barges.
Barges?
Seriously Barges????

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/jul/11/whitehalls-potty-plan-to-keep-ni-lights-on-if-no-brexit-deal



A flotilla of barges would be sent to the coast of Northern Ireland with energy generators after Brexit to keep the region's lights on in the event of no deal, according to reports on Wednesday.

The scheme, which has been described as "potty" by business leaders in Northern Ireland, is said to be part of contingency planning by Whitehall mandarins in case the UK crashes out of the EU, smashing Ireland's all-island electricity supply in its wake.

The issue has arisen because Northern Ireland relies on imports from Ireland for electricity supply as part of a ground-breaking single energy market deal struck in the wake of the Good Friday Agreement.


.

According to a leak to the Financial Times, the plan would involve bringing back equipment from military zones such as Afghanistan to build up capacity in the Irish Sea.

Thousands of electricity generators would have to be requisitioned at short notice.



Conor Patterson, chief executive of the Newry and Mourne Enterprise Agency, said: "It seems a potty idea to me. That they have even contemplated this, even if it is blue-sky thinking, is difficult to comprehend. How would this work? Would we be on a three-day week? Would we have electricity rationed?

"Would the barges be run on gas, on coal, nuclear fuel, how would it work? It's an apocalyptic scenario."

The Department for Exiting the European Union said: "We have made good progress on this and a number of other issues during recent negotiations and remain confident that we can reach a deep and broad free trade agreement with the EU. However, as a responsible government, we will continue to prepare for all scenarios, including the highly unlikely outcome that we leave the EU without any deal next March."

No-deal contingency planning is being stepped up right across Europe, with Whitehall and civil servants in Ireland, France, Belgium and Holland in particular making plans for the worst possible scenario on 29 March next year.

Her Majesty's Revenue & Customs said on Wednesday that it would cost businesses an extra £17bn to £20bn a year in administration if they were obliged to fill out customs declarations forms after Brexit.

HMRC's chief executive, Jon Thompson, told the public accounts select committee that there were around 100,000 businesses with no experience at all of filling out customs declarations forms with more than 50 data fields.


Part of M20 to be used as lorry park to counter Brexit jams at Channel
Read more
He is currently in talks with ministers on how to reach those businesses but admitted they could not start a communications or awareness programme until the government's Brexit position was settled.

One MP said small firms would go bust if they had to bear those sort of costs, especially after being told the amount HMRC collects on cross-border trade is less than double that at £38.5bn a year.

"Do you really think this is a sensible taxation system?" asked Sir Geoffrey Clifton-Brown, Conservative MP for the Cotswolds, of the public accounts committee. "Won't this put lot of small businesses out of business?"

Thompson told him it was not his place to comment: "We just give ministers the advice."
Brexit and Trump are about destroying whatever systems make life bearable so that the plutocrats can get an even bigger share of the pie. It's easy to brainwash people

Stephen Walt :
"No matter how well-written or delivered, a speech cannot divert whole societies from a well-established course of action. Policies in motion tend to remain in motion; to change the trajectory of a deeply-entrenched set of initiatives requires the application of political forces of equal momentum."
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

screenexile

#4176
I see Trump just took a massive dump all over Theresa May. If she'd any balls she'd buck him out allies don't come to each others countries and tout another person as leader.

Trump's happy thoUgh he's causing chaos wherever he goes and his press conference at NATO was one big propaganda exercise... barely a word that came out of his mouth was truth.

Likelihood is him and May will come out all smiles in a few hours having had some big beautiful conversation about how their trade is going to be the biggest and best!

Exciting times people!

seafoid

Today's Daily Telegraph

White paper could split the tory Party irrevocably - Fraser Nelson
I cannot vote for the Chequers deal when WTO terms offer a better Brexit-Owen Paterson
No deal is looking increasingly likely and that' just fine - Liam Halligan

Roger Bootle was in the paper during the week "If the Government deregulated the economy and cut taxes the overall pie would be bigger"

They want to slash wages and benefits.
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

sensethetone

Quote from: seafoid on July 13, 2018, 08:43:27 AM
Today's Daily Telegraph

White paper could split the tory Party irrevocably - Fraser Nelson
I cannot vote for the Chequers deal when WTO terms offer a better Brexit-Owen Paterson
No deal is looking increasingly likely and that' just fine - Liam Halligan

Roger Bootle was in the paper during the week "If the Government deregulated the economy and cut taxes the overall pie would be bigger"

They want to slash wages and benefits.

I thought any deal with the WTO meant there would have to be a hard border, but there can't be a hard border due to the GFA.

Would this mean the NI would have to stay in the EU if the UK wants to do a deal with the WTO, the new deal only applying to the mainland?

Rossfan

Are there sinister puppet masters pulling stribgs behind Trump and the Brexiteers?
While a lot of people think Trump is a clown spouting sh1tey lies everywhere he goes I just wonder.
He's going out if his way telling May her soft Brexit is wrong and he's extolling the Extreme Brexiteers.
He seems to want to dismantle the EU and NATO and maybe all International organisations or copying operation between Countries.
Davy's given us a dream to cling to
We're going to bring home the SAM

Hardy

Quote from: Rossfan on July 13, 2018, 11:16:42 AM
Are there sinister puppet masters pulling stribgs behind Trump and the Brexiteers?
While a lot of people think Trump is a clown spouting sh1tey lies everywhere he goes I just wonder.
He's going out if his way telling May her soft Brexit is wrong and he's extolling the Extreme Brexiteers.
He seems to want to dismantle the EU and NATO and maybe all International organisations or copying operation between Countries.

There may be a clue in your last sentence. Who else has exactly the same goals?

We'll see what Robert Mueller says.

seafoid

Quote from: Rossfan on July 13, 2018, 11:16:42 AM
Are there sinister puppet masters pulling stribgs behind Trump and the Brexiteers?
While a lot of people think Trump is a clown spouting sh1tey lies everywhere he goes I just wonder.
He's going out if his way telling May her soft Brexit is wrong and he's extolling the Extreme Brexiteers.
He seems to want to dismantle the EU and NATO and maybe all International organisations or copying operation between Countries.
There definitely are. And they are very rich
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

RedHand88

Quote from: screenexile on July 13, 2018, 08:29:53 AM
I see Trump just took a massive dump all over Theresa May. If she'd any balls she'd buck him out allies don't come to each others countries and tout another person as leader.

Trump's happy thoUgh he's causing chaos wherever he goes and his press conference at NATO was one big propaganda exercise... barely a word that came out of his mouth was truth.

Likelihood is him and May will come out all smiles in a few hours having had some big beautiful conversation about how their trade is going to be the biggest and best!

Exciting times people!

If the EU reject her offer as is expected, she's going to have to take it from Trump to have any chance at a trade deal. Without an EU deal, the Brits desperately desperately need a deal with the Americans. Trump knows this, so expect them to play hard ball with her like.

I agree that the leader of a foreign nation throwing favouritism to someone ready to pounce on the top job is incredibly cheeky and unheard of.

All together now... "Strong and stable, strong and stable."

heganboy

Are we all still sure there's going to be a Brexit?
Never underestimate the predictability of stupidity

seafoid

The head of the Confederation of British Industry said it took the UK 2 years to agree a position leaving 2 months to get a deal. Suboptimal
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU