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Please God he dosent get another phone call....lol.

Thanks for the copy Culchie.

I am all for getting important info out into the public domain. When accurate and objective it can provide necessary checks and balances. Plus on principle I believe everyone deserves the right of reply.

But this goes much further. It actually attempts to completely wipe out the outstanding credentials of some very capable SV candidates by exposing the actions of one individual.

He then moves on to attempt to diminish the credibility of one SV candidate because he hadnt paid his club membership for several years. Yet this individual might have personally contributed thousands of pounds of his own money to GAA projects. I know for a fact that the man in question made a massive five figure donation to Club Aontroma in the early days. But hey, maybe hes not really a gael! I could go on.

This communication smacks of a juvenile personal vendetta. Someone may have called some gaels "scum" but firstly that is here say and secondly I have seen and heard many scummy things in or at a football match. So it depends on what context the comment was made, if made.

For example I recall playing a team in the Falls Park and a city club manager shouting to his player "for the last time I told you to break that wee fcuker legs". True, but hearsay I hear you say!! Scummy or what??

Look a couple of guys have had a fall out. This is the response by one of the parties. I think it's childish in the extreme. Is it a solo act, or who has sponsored it. Who has mandated it.

Saffron Vision (as a group) have no intention of getting into a slanging match, or of getting personal. But this action now provides a perfect platform for them to defend themselves. If so, you will find that their response will be totally subjective, and will in no way resort to this low class level of response.

In time this solo run or otherwise may turn out to be a massive OG by the South Antrim chairman.

He would be a lot better spending his time trying to find a way of getting a juvenile league system working in the great gaa city of Belfast.

So the South Antrim chairman is openly canvassing directly against the Saffron Vision candidates. Unless the South Antrim clubs have mandated him to do that on their behalf, then he is bang out of order by using his position to go solo.

I'm confident lots of SA clubs have the foresight to see right through this.

Cmna read my post again. I have said GMG has put in a lot of hours amd needs applauded for that. Nothing derogatory at all to say about the man so not sure where you picked that up. And I know he works in accountancy and puts a lot into his club as well. A very good Gaa man.  I'd guess he too would want to see a few new faces especially with good business backgrounds coming forward at county level.

Not sure what TE's qualification us though to be in and around so many different jobs in the county. Maybe he is just glad to get out of the house lol. And sitting on interviewing committees for football management jobs. Jesus wept did he ever play, coach or manage anyone! That's the type of shit that needs nailed.

Aye you need 20 really decent grade players to have any chance of winning a championship. Portglenone struggled to get that number but from where some of these guys started to where they finished tells it's own tale.

I recall being at a national league match in Tralee and there were 5 Portglenone players playing. Big Marty got a very bad shoulder injury in a tackle with Seamus Moynahan and it never got completely better.

If our next batch provide as many good memories we will be happy. As long as one year they deliver the big one. We like what we see but still a work in progress.

Most of those mentioned started senior football in division three and finished up in three senior county finals. As you say only for St Galls.....

CMNA, Tyrone can be a gate man or sell lollipops at the sweetie van on match day or whatever. A good lad whose heart is very much in the right place. And Gérard too has punched in a lot of hours, often doing thankless jobs that no one else was queuing up to do. Their dedication should be applauded, not knocked.

My problem with them is when I see them adjudicating at interviews for senior football management etc. That's where I draw the line.

Likewise Joe Edwards has punched in some hard yards. And is well respected by many for doing so. There definitely is a role for him in our coiste bainisti - just think we are better going for a a different kind of leadership.

To be fair Cnma those men have made themselves available to perform that role when others refused to do so. But we are entering an era with large capital projects so qualified and experienced personell are now needed. Pol Mc Canna has that high level experience. This is an essential position alright Culchie.

Chairman position too is absolitely essential. We need someone who will transmit a vibrant and fresh new image and who will attract new and capable people to work at county level. We don't need a hard man dictator type. Someone who will deliver, not dictate.

For me the other huge position is ass secretary. We need a person who is strong enough to extract the best from our paid official, but at yhe same time ensure that he dosent overstep the mark. This is a big challenge.

Obviously whoever will run CCC is huge too, and we need coaching and games properly supported. We will need good PR. We will need strong representation in Ulster. All roles important.....but if we get these first three positions sorted out with the best applicants then the rest will follow in due course. Rome wasnt built in a day.

+1

With the same budget as football, agreed in advance.

Not trying to be devisive but with football is in division four and I don't see FQ trawling all round the south trying to get a big name to sort out our problems!

Never Do. With the exception of Baker every county football manager has come from Belfast. If he isn't from up the road he is from... down the road...or in the occasional deviance, from up the hill.

Level budget. Level ambition. Level playing field Please.

Culchie, coming round to your thinking at last??? I made the point of "mix and match" on page one of this thread!

The way I see it is several of the SV nominations are ESSENTIAL if we are to make the type of progress we desire.  Some of the other positions are DESIRABLE.

No one is expecting a clean sweep. If the essential candidates are elected everything else is a bonus. That's my own view anyway.

Good luck with that Bogeyman. You would need a very knowledgeable person with lots of time who would be totally impartial if it was to be done fairly. Not many here (or anywhere else) with those credentials.

I suggest that every nominee is given 400 words (for example) to write their own blurb, within a week of acceptance, and this could be circulated with photos, in one large document to all clubs.

Now that's a level playing field at least.

Problem is most typical club delegates wouldn't know half the nominees if they walked past them on the street. So yes, some agreed form of education would be good.

That's democracy Last Man. I'm sure every man standing will have both supporters and detractors.

Don't think the development role you talk of Saffron heart is anything at all to do with games development. That's the remit of county games and development officer.

Development remit is about capital projects such as ground development, assets and funding. Maybe someone else can confirm this or otherwise.

I can't see many clubs voting for anything en masse - ie all in or all out - more like each position will be discussed on an individual basis.

Personally I would love to see each nominee given the opportunity to write their own blurb about their experiences and their aspirations.

A typical club committee member mightnt know very many of those standing. A bit of education about their background etc could be helpful. What harm can a bit of education do.

Question is where do you draw the line in this canvassing lark, especially now in the digital age where everything is at the touch of a button.