FAI...June 2024 Friendlies v Hungary and Portugal

[seafoid]

RTE:

"Ireland had a great chance to win it in the 89th minute and take an away goal back "

Soccer is partitionist. Rugby isn't
GAA isn't.  The rugby team can be called Ireland. So can the compromise rules team. The soccer team can't.  Ulster does not have 3 counties

[stew]

RTE:

"Ireland had a great chance to win it in the 89th minute and take an away goal back "

Soccer is partitionist. Rugby isn't
GAA isn't.  The rugby team can be called Ireland. So can the compromise rules team. The soccer team can't.  Ulster does not have 3 counties

People can call the team whatever they want to call the team so you are wrong!

[Esmarelda]

Useless. Please put them out of our misery ontuesaday. A hotch pot of championship and lower Premiership players. Is someone actually paying Keane?

What are you complaining about? What would Holland or even Italy give to be in our position right now? We can seal the deal on Tuesday.

Exactly. You'd wonder why people are expecting Barcelona from us ffs. It's not great to watch but considering the amount of time international managers have with players and the pressure there is to qualify, we're doing okay

I assume you enjoy watching soccer generally. If so, do you enjoy watching Ireland play?

[Esmarelda]

Ireland punching well above their weight to even be in the mix at this stage. They hardly gave eriksen a kick. Great performance. What are u lads expecting?

It's like this.

Everything up to now is irrelevant as it's a one on one playoff.

If the World Cup is a good standard (which it could be) then Ireland won't get out of their group. If it's a very good standard (which it might be), Ireland will be humiliated. There is no chance, none at all, of this group of individuals making quarter finals or beyond, no matter how well coached.

So the style of football that got us tonight doesn't matter. Planning for the future doesn't matter either.

So why not just simply accept that tonight we were playing a bang average team but one who wanted to play a little. If Ireland had have tried to play a little we might have lost, we might have won, nobody knows. But as a nation we might have enjoyed it. Anyone who enjoyed what they saw tonight is defected and needs sent back.

Iceland reached the quarter finals of the Euros last year. Are they an above average group of players? Did they just launch the ball forward aimlessly?

[thewobbler]

Just for the record, not wanting to watch Wimbledon minus Harford and Fashanu, does not create an expectation for Barcelona.

There are a dozen clear variations in styles between a and b.

Also, for the record, Wimbledon (with Hash and/or Hanford)at least had an attacking focus. This, ultimately is why I hate watching this Irish team. I've no problem with territorial play. But booting the ball to the corner flag, unless you've speed out wide, is not the same thing

[thewobbler]

Ireland punching well above their weight to even be in the mix at this stage. They hardly gave eriksen a kick. Great performance. What are u lads expecting?

It's like this.

Everything up to now is irrelevant as it's a one on one playoff.

If the World Cup is a good standard (which it could be) then Ireland won't get out of their group. If it's a very good standard (which it might be), Ireland will be humiliated. There is no chance, none at all, of this group of individuals making quarter finals or beyond, no matter how well coached.

So the style of football that got us tonight doesn't matter. Planning for the future doesn't matter either.

So why not just simply accept that tonight we were playing a bang average team but one who wanted to play a little. If Ireland had have tried to play a little we might have lost, we might have won, nobody knows. But as a nation we might have enjoyed it. Anyone who enjoyed what they saw tonight is defected and needs sent back.

Iceland reached the quarter finals of the Euros last year. Are they an above average group of players? Did they just launch the ball forward aimlessly?

Iceland are a defensive team who counter attack with intent. Which makes them 50% better than Ireland.

[Esmarelda]

Ireland punching well above their weight to even be in the mix at this stage. They hardly gave eriksen a kick. Great performance. What are u lads expecting?

It's like this.

Everything up to now is irrelevant as it's a one on one playoff.

If the World Cup is a good standard (which it could be) then Ireland won't get out of their group. If it's a very good standard (which it might be), Ireland will be humiliated. There is no chance, none at all, of this group of individuals making quarter finals or beyond, no matter how well coached.

So the style of football that got us tonight doesn't matter. Planning for the future doesn't matter either.

So why not just simply accept that tonight we were playing a bang average team but one who wanted to play a little. If Ireland had have tried to play a little we might have lost, we might have won, nobody knows. But as a nation we might have enjoyed it. Anyone who enjoyed what they saw tonight is defected and needs sent back.

Iceland reached the quarter finals of the Euros last year. Are they an above average group of players? Did they just launch the ball forward aimlessly?

Iceland are a defensive team who counter attack with intent. Which makes them 50% better than Ireland.

So they're coached that way? You said Ireland won't progress regardless of coaching. Why not?

[thewobbler]

Because they're a mediocre bunch of footballers who have been coached into playing a system that has no room for continuity, flair or intuition. Which means that when they go a goal down va a better side, they simply don't have the belief or experience to make a game of it.

The World Cup will bea horror show if we get there

[Esmarelda]

Because they're a mediocre bunch of footballers who have been coached into playing a system that has no room for continuity, flair or intuition. Which means that when they go a goal down va a better side, they simply don't have the belief or experience to make a game of it.

The World Cup will bea horror show if we get there

I think you're intentionally avoiding my question. What's the difference between Ireland and Iceland with regards to progressing at the world cup? My point is that we can be coached to achieve better than you're suggesting.

[thewobbler]

Because they're a mediocre bunch of footballers who have been coached into playing a system that has no room for continuity, flair or intuition. Which means that when they go a goal down va a better side, they simply don't have the belief or experience to make a game of it.

The World Cup will bea horror show if we get there

I think you're intentionally avoiding my question. What's the difference between Ireland and Iceland with regards to progressing at the world cup? My point is that we can be coached to achieve better than you're suggesting.

Jesus I'm not avoiding the point.

Iceland are a limited side who've worked out if they counter attack with intent, they can spoil and beat better teams.

Ireland have absolutely no game plan / tactics for counter attacking. They just boot the ball away. It's kot possession football, it's not territory football, it's shot football.

[Esmarelda]

Because they're a mediocre bunch of footballers who have been coached into playing a system that has no room for continuity, flair or intuition. Which means that when they go a goal down va a better side, they simply don't have the belief or experience to make a game of it.

The World Cup will bea horror show if we get there

I think you're intentionally avoiding my question. What's the difference between Ireland and Iceland with regards to progressing at the world cup? My point is that we can be coached to achieve better than you're suggesting.

Jesus I'm not avoiding the point.

Iceland are a limited side who've worked out if they counter attack with intent, they can spoil and beat better teams.

Ireland have absolutely no game plan / tactics for counter attacking. They just boot the ball away. It's kot possession football, it's not territory football, it's shot football.

Ok, but if we had a different coach, could we not be coached to play differently and, potentially, be more effective as Iceland are?

[seafoid]

Neither Trap nor the current regime seem(ed) to have much faith in the players.They are mostly journeymen.
The money in the English game really did a lot of damage.

[Main Street]

Because they're a mediocre bunch of footballers who have been coached into playing a system that has no room for continuity, flair or intuition. Which means that when they go a goal down va a better side, they simply don't have the belief or experience to make a game of it.

The World Cup will bea horror show if we get there

I think you're intentionally avoiding my question. What's the difference between Ireland and Iceland with regards to progressing at the world cup? My point is that we can be coached to achieve better than you're suggesting.

Jesus I'm not avoiding the point.

Iceland are a limited side who've worked out if they counter attack with intent, they can spoil and beat better teams.

Ireland have absolutely no game plan / tactics for counter attacking. They just boot the ball away. It's kot possession football, it's not territory football, it's shot football.

From what I've seen, Iceland are anything but a limited team, they have deservedly topped their qual group, have beaten Turkey, Croatia and Ukraine at home and hammered Turkey away in a crunch group decider. That's not the stuff of a limited team, that's the stuff of an excellent team who have emerged from limited circumstances.  Iceland play as a team of players who know each other inside out, they play (mostly)  a sophisticated flexible  442, which can only be achieved with every player in a disciplined manner understanding their role and their fellow players. That's football intelligence in action.
I'd share most people's turn off with Ireland's utter inability to posses the ball.
However, for these play offs it's 100% about the result and O'Neill  succeeded in neutralising  Denmark to the extent of them only having 3  or so shots on goal. The cliche applies, it's only half time.

[Cunny Funt]

Italy who Ireland wanted to avoid the most could be knocked out by Sweden tonight.

[Capt Pat]

Italy who Ireland wanted to avoid the most could be knocked out by Sweden tonight.

No score at half time. If the Swedes score one Italy will need three in the second half.