Woke bullshit

[tonto1888]

Any guardian mandating physical or chemicallly induced change in a minor as part of a transgender process should be proscuted to the full extent of the law.

Adults can make their own decisions but immature and developing young people should not have this option.

Fully agree.

Here's an uncomfortable topic of discussion / conundrum for the "woke".

Why are paedophiles always and firmly denounced as evil people, marginalised from society and requested to change their behaviour?

Surely what it is that makes them attracted to children is fundamentally a mental health problem?

But rather than allowing them to pursue their feelings, we patrol and prevent them.

The reason for society doing this is, of course, obvious. Should a paedophile act on his impulses, it would have to be with a minor; therefore someone who is not mature enough to knowingly consent to the impulses of their pursuer.

Yet at the same time, we are allowing those same minors to chemically, physically and irrefutably pursue gender change, as a result of mental health issues.

This doesn't add up. Not even close.

mental health issues according to you
Trying to equate paedophilia with trans people says a lot

[Milltown Row2]

The amount of young - and i mean under 16 year olds i know from back home now looking to change sex is mental. I can think of at least 4/5 within same a 15 mile radius. All boys too - growing the hair long and dressing like women. I don't get it.

Surly a lot has to be from the iphones and the internet. They are seeing all this woke American shite on instagram, youtube and tiktok and thinking this is the norm. They are being brainwashed really

It's a form of mental ilness really.

Is that your medical opinion or just something you feel yourself?

Who cares what someone does, if its a fetish or a feeling that being in this body isn't for them and they feel more confident being whatever they chose to be.

Going down that road of being different from the rest is walking into a shit storm of hassle, and I can't see that its the easiest decision to make and stick with due to the judgement of others

People have been judging others from the start of time, my only concern is how mature or how much discussion goes on with people of a certain age, some people though show early on that they naturally come across different, others could well be interested in it due to social media.

People that are on the spectrum definitely view things differently and themselves, but we pass its off because its accepted and there is a diagnoses of it.

[thewobbler]

Any guardian mandating physical or chemicallly induced change in a minor as part of a transgender process should be proscuted to the full extent of the law.

Adults can make their own decisions but immature and developing young people should not have this option.

Fully agree.

Here's an uncomfortable topic of discussion / conundrum for the "woke".

Why are paedophiles always and firmly denounced as evil people, marginalised from society and requested to change their behaviour?

Surely what it is that makes them attracted to children is fundamentally a mental health problem?

But rather than allowing them to pursue their feelings, we patrol and prevent them.

The reason for society doing this is, of course, obvious. Should a paedophile act on his impulses, it would have to be with a minor; therefore someone who is not mature enough to knowingly consent to the impulses of their pursuer.

Yet at the same time, we are allowing those same minors to chemically, physically and irrefutably pursue gender change, as a result of mental health issues.

This doesn't add up. Not even close.

mental health issues according to you
Trying to equate paedophilia with trans people says a lot

I'm not equating it.

I'm pointing out the inherent conundrum in simultaneously housing these two opinions:

1. A 14 year old girl is not emotionally, physiologically or physically mature enough to consent to sexual advances from an adult male.

2. A 14 year old girl is emotionally, physiologically and physically mature enough to consent to a gender change.

[Milltown Row2]

Any guardian mandating physical or chemicallly induced change in a minor as part of a transgender process should be proscuted to the full extent of the law.

Adults can make their own decisions but immature and developing young people should not have this option.

Fully agree.

Here's an uncomfortable topic of discussion / conundrum for the "woke".

Why are paedophiles always and firmly denounced as evil people, marginalised from society and requested to change their behaviour?

Surely what it is that makes them attracted to children is fundamentally a mental health problem?

But rather than allowing them to pursue their feelings, we patrol and prevent them.

The reason for society doing this is, of course, obvious. Should a paedophile act on his impulses, it would have to be with a minor; therefore someone who is not mature enough to knowingly consent to the impulses of their pursuer.

Yet at the same time, we are allowing those same minors to chemically, physically and irrefutably pursue gender change, as a result of mental health issues.

This doesn't add up. Not even close.

mental health issues according to you
Trying to equate paedophilia with trans people says a lot

I'm not equating it.

I'm pointing out the inherent conundrum in simultaneously housing these two opinions:

1. A 14 year old girl is not emotionally, physiologically or physically mature enough to consent to sexual advances from an adult male.

2. A 14 year old girl is emotionally, physiologically and physically mature enough to consent to a gender change.

There are plenty of things that a 14 year old girl wouldn't ready for, you though have used pedophilia as an example though.

[thewobbler]

That I have done MR2. For it is the most visceral example of why we protect children until they're ready to make their own decisions in this world.

[trueblue1234]

The amount of young - and i mean under 16 year olds i know from back home now looking to change sex is mental. I can think of at least 4/5 within same a 15 mile radius. All boys too - growing the hair long and dressing like women. I don't get it.

Surly a lot has to be from the iphones and the internet. They are seeing all this woke American shite on instagram, youtube and tiktok and thinking this is the norm. They are being brainwashed really

But do you honestly believe that? I'm straight, and I could watch as much "woke sh!t" as you like, but that ain't ever going to make me like men. Or to want to change sex. I think there has to be a bit more to it than that. I honestly think that's an absurd take imo.

Its a perfect storm really. From my viewpoint these people seem to be loners too. I would hazard that these people are on some sort of spectrum and have some sort of mental illness and see the trans community as maybe something they can cling to and identify themselves with to cover up a more deep lying issue (sub consciously that is)

People can be wired differently, I'd 100% agree. But what deep lying issue might there be? Would it not be more likely that it's just the issue they are highlighting? I.e. gender dysphoria. Why do you not want to accept that this might actually be the reason (regardless of whether you think that's a mental illness or not).

 

[JoG2]

The amount of young - and i mean under 16 year olds i know from back home now looking to change sex is mental. I can think of at least 4/5 within same a 15 mile radius. All boys too - growing the hair long and dressing like women. I don't get it.

Surly a lot has to be from the iphones and the internet. They are seeing all this woke American shite on instagram, youtube and tiktok and thinking this is the norm. They are being brainwashed really

Where abouts is back home Samuel?

[Mourne Red]

Jesus give it a rest with the trans arguments lads - enough threads with people talking shite about it on them.

Back to the thread.

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[tonto1888]

That I have done MR2. For it is the most visceral example of why we protect children until they're ready to make their own decisions in this world.

You are still equating the two. This just confirms it

[thewobbler]

That I have done MR2. For it is the most visceral example of why we protect children until they're ready to make their own decisions in this world.

You are still equating the two. This just confirms it

And I get a sense that you don't approve.

Which I guess means you're likely to use this malcontent as reason not to discuss the two in any form of parallel.

That would be a head in the sand stance. In my opinion.

[tonto1888]

That I have done MR2. For it is the most visceral example of why we protect children until they're ready to make their own decisions in this world.

You are still equating the two. This just confirms it

And I get a sense that you don't approve.

Which I guess means you're likely to use this malcontent as reason not to discuss the two in any form of parallel.

That would be a head in the sand stance. In my opinion.

No. I don't see any parallel between the two. I do see why you would be against young trans people getting any body altering treatments and I don't disagree with you there. What I would say, and this is only from things I have read, is that some older trans people have said they wish they had started earlier as by the time they started transitioning their body had gone through puberty and had male characteristics they could not change.

[Tony Baloney]

The amount of young - and i mean under 16 year olds i know from back home now looking to change sex is mental. I can think of at least 4/5 within same a 15 mile radius. All boys too - growing the hair long and dressing like women. I don't get it.

Surly a lot has to be from the iphones and the internet. They are seeing all this woke American shite on instagram, youtube and tiktok and thinking this is the norm. They are being brainwashed really

Where abouts is back home Samuel?

Thailand

[JoG2]

The amount of young - and i mean under 16 year olds i know from back home now looking to change sex is mental. I can think of at least 4/5 within same a 15 mile radius. All boys too - growing the hair long and dressing like women. I don't get it.

Surly a lot has to be from the iphones and the internet. They are seeing all this woke American shite on instagram, youtube and tiktok and thinking this is the norm. They are being brainwashed really

Where abouts is back home Samuel?

Thailand

[general_lee]

This thread is like something from Gript or some other right wing cesspit.

I don't claim to be an expert in gender realignment nor do I have any expertise in puberty blockers, but unless it directly affects you, what the f**k does it even matter?

I have friends who it does affect, they're going through a hard enough time with their child who wants to become male. They don't know why, all they know is that their child is miserable and is struggling. They have an older daughter who is what you'd call "normal" with a p/time job, bf etc, so it's not the parenting.

What would you do in that situation? Let your child continue self-harming and living a reclusive life or maybe explore what help is available?

[thewobbler]

Gript? Right wing cesspit?

It is now seemingly impossible to have a rational discussion about grey issues.

Everything has to be black or white. And if you're not fully on black, it's because you're fully on white. And vice versa.

If we can't fix this communications problem, then black gets a free run at their side, and white gets a free at their side. Meanwhile the world is doomed.