Premier League 2024-2025

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I'm a Liverpool fan and think this is the biggest storm in a teacup I've ever witnessed. Called Klopp a **** whilst clearly being drunk and/or on coke. I'd be fairly sure you wouldn't have to feed drink into any PL referee to get them to get them to slate the current crop of PL managers. The worst thing he had to say about Liverpool was that they were shit, hardly seems like a colossal burning grudge against the club.

As for the "calls" that cost Liverpool points they are marginal calls in my eyes (with the exception of VVD being hacked by that donkey Pickford). I've seen Liverpool benefit from plenty of handballs that weren't given, Trent has got away with them on more than one occasion. I'd be much more aggrieved with the referee at Tottenham last year who harshly sent off 2 Liverpool players.

Personally if he apologised and gets suspended for a bit I'd think it punishment enough for an act of stupidity. I'd hate to have everything that I've said or done whilst drunk recorded and played to the public, I'd be certain that I'd lose my job if that was the case and I'd imagine it's also true for the 90% plus of the people calling for this guys head.

100% right on this. The outrage online is bordering on maniacal... if Liverpool don't want refs to hate them then Klopp shouldn't have acted the ****.

Of course referees will have managers they like and dislike. If managers had any sense they'd be more sound to referees as being a p***k is never going to work.

Whole thing is sad really. From his comments to his mate releasing the video to him losing his job and the dumbass Liverpool fans reckoning he's cost them league titles!

[Truthsayer]

Appaling that his 'friends' let that go out. That's the world we live in. Horrible and very little real loyalty.

[J70]

That's why these lads have to be so careful. You never know what **** will sell you out. And while I feel bad for him on a human level (albeit knowing nothing whatsoever about him personally), you can't get away from the fact that by having his personal views become public record, his credibility as a ref is damaged.

Obviously everyone has personal opinions on all kinds of things, but if your job requires that you set certain views aside to impartially adjudicate, you can't be allowing yourself to get into positions where you run your mouth on a record that may become public.

[From the Bunker]

This has layers.

There are decisions he gives to teams playing Liverpool.
There are decisions he doesn't give to Liverpool.
There are decisions he gives to Liverpool's rivals.
There are decisions he doesn't give to teams playing a rival of liverpool.

Will there be many games he could referee without scrutiny?

[Milltown Row2]

Var is used as a means to correct 'mistakes' if there was a wrong call, thats serious it can be reviewed.

ones looking to say he was biased in his games don't really know how a ref can make those split second decisions based purely on cheating a team.

Having beef with a manager who berates you from kick off will obviously make you think he's a p***k. He though should have known better with that recording

[RedHand88]

Var is used as a means to correct 'mistakes' if there was a wrong call, thats serious it can be reviewed.

ones looking to say he was biased in his games don't really know how a ref can make those split second decisions based purely on cheating a team.

Having beef with a manager who berates you from kick off will obviously make you think he's a p***k. He though should have known better with that recording

Pickford didn't (and couldn't) get punished because the incident had been reviewed by Coote on VAR. The lack of punishment meant he had bloody seen it. So there was no oversight or the old Wenger line "I did not see it". The ref didn't see it hence it had to be reviewed. And the ref came out later and said Pickford should have been sent off, thus undermining Coote. But nothing of note happened to Coote (that I can recall).

So the ref afterwards said it was a sending off (no doubt having seen it for himself, something Coote did not tell him to do when he reviewed it). The BT commentators as it happened called it a "horror tackle". And Crouch at half-time called it a "leg breaker". And that night Shearer on MOTD said: "It was an awful challenge, terrible. The first mistake is Michael Oliver doesn't spot it. Then how can the VAR not recommend that the ref have another look at it? It's a clear red card."

[Milltown Row2]

Var is used as a means to correct 'mistakes' if there was a wrong call, thats serious it can be reviewed.

ones looking to say he was biased in his games don't really know how a ref can make those split second decisions based purely on cheating a team.

Having beef with a manager who berates you from kick off will obviously make you think he's a p***k. He though should have known better with that recording

Pickford didn't (and couldn't) get punished because the incident had been reviewed by Coote on VAR. The lack of punishment meant he had bloody seen it. So there was no oversight or the old Wenger line "I did not see it". The ref didn't see it hence it had to be reviewed. And the ref came out later and said Pickford should have been sent off, thus undermining Coote. But nothing of note happened to Coote (that I can recall).

So the ref afterwards said it was a sending off (no doubt having seen it for himself, something Coote did not tell him to do when he reviewed it). The BT commentators as it happened called it a "horror tackle". And Crouch at half-time called it a "leg breaker". And that night Shearer on MOTD said: "It was an awful challenge, terrible. The first mistake is Michael Oliver doesn't spot it. Then how can the VAR not recommend that the ref have another look at it? It's a clear red card."

Maybe he liked them then? He probably just didn't like them after being verbally abused one day after a game? Maybe its knee jerk reaction after a game and few drinks, says something stupid (which happens here a lot) and will regret it.

[tiempo]

The premier league cabal of referees have serious notions that anyone gives a f**k about them as personalities or that they are relevant within the media as experts, the continually out themselves as incompetent and corrupt, replace them with rugby referees given 1 weeks training and you'd see an improvement

[thebigfella]

The premier league cabal of referees have serious notions that anyone gives a f**k about them as personalities or that they are relevant within the media as experts, the continually out themselves as incompetent and corrupt, replace them with rugby referees given 1 weeks training and you'd see an improvement

Christ rugby refs are f**king worse with their notions. Nigel Owens is an awful knob.

[quit yo jibbajabba]

Is that Nigel that retired in 2020 😜

[thebigfella]

Is that Nigel that retired in 2020 😜

Alright, was an awful knob.

[Milltown Row2]

I would say that a ref in the English leagues would at a push make one mistake a game, if your lucky.

Compare that with a GAA game and you'd go home happy if the ref only missed about 5 certs.

If ref's were biased it would show up straight away, the game is analyzed within millimeters and in most occasions there is ones that will say it was and others that will say it wasn't a foul.

I'd say it would be impossible to deliberately cheat as a ref in the PL, if you worked that hard to get to that position and piss it all away by being biased, then you'd be a fool, the biggest p***k in all of this is the guy that uploaded that video

[statto]

I would say that a ref in the English leagues would at a push make one mistake a game, if your lucky.

Compare that with a GAA game and you'd go home happy if the ref only missed about 5 certs.

If ref's were biased it would show up straight away, the game is analyzed within millimeters and in most occasions there is ones that will say it was and others that will say it wasn't a foul.

I'd say it would be impossible to deliberately cheat as a ref in the PL, if you worked that hard to get to that position and piss it all away by being biased, then you'd be a fool, the biggest p***k in all of this is the guy that uploaded that video

Absolutely.  That is the way society has went unfortunately. 

[Main Street]

That's why these lads have to be so careful. You never know what **** will sell you out. And while I feel bad for him on a human level (albeit knowing nothing whatsoever about him personally), you can't get away from the fact that by having his personal views become public record, his credibility as a ref is damaged.

Obviously everyone has personal opinions on all kinds of things, but if your job requires that you set certain views aside to impartially adjudicate, you can't be allowing yourself to get into positions where you run your mouth on a record that may become public.

The ref's mistake was being so off guard that he didn't consider to delete the video, that's all. Whereas Klopp was an obnoxious cxnt in his dealings with the officials,the penalties dished out to him were paltry in comparison to the extent of the abusive rants he directed  at officials when his team were struggling.

[lurganblue]

Lineker to leave MOTD at  end of season

Who will replace him?  Someone who ticks  10 boxes, id imagine

They BBC have ruined Top Gear, Question of sport  and football focus , so no doubt they'll ruin MOTD  (even more) with  their dull formats and  box ticking presenters

It'll no doubt be Alex Scott.