Derry Club Football & Hurling original

[Wildweasel74]

We through to the final and still no better forwards in the Derry championship than what's, already on the county team. Not worrying for next year.

[tbrick18]

Maybe not.
But maybe the likes of tohill will have progressed.
Maybe mcfaul will be back.
Maybe some of this years players will push on.
Maybe the likes of Danny tallon or the heavrons will be back?
I don't think it would take much to bring g us on another level. 2 to 3 players.
Also need to keep Rogers, mckaigue and glass fully fit.

[JoG2]

We through to the final and still no better forwards in the Derry championship than what's, already on the county team. Not worrying for next year.

How can any forwards shine though? There's zero space to work in. Shane McGuigan, Toner, Tallon etc all spending more time in the middle third than inside. The days of an out and out inside forward hitting 1-05 or more from play are pretty much gone, 'forwards' these days have to be jacks of all trade.
Not many counties have players like Clifford, Walsh, well 2 do! The way the modern game is played requires 1 / 2 top class free takers and a spread of scores from throughout the team Inc marauding defenders

Re next Sundays finals

Senior: Slaughtneil by 4 (better forwards!  )
Intermediate : Glenullin by 1

[Rawhide]

Hearing Patsy Bradley a big doubt for this game following the gusty drop of the knees into Patsy's ribs whilst he was lying on the ground by Matthew Downey at the very end of the Lavey game in which he got a straight red. Very manly of him.

[Link]

Hearing Patsy Bradley a big doubt for this game following the gusty drop of the knees into Patsy's ribs whilst he was lying on the ground by Matthew Downey at the very end of the Lavey game in which he got a straight red. Very manly of him.

Gusty? did the wind knock him over.

[tbrick18]

I'm giving a tentative nod to Glen for the final.
They have youth on their side and a first class manager.

Slaughtneil starting to age a bit and so slow down a little.

Kick of the ball between them, with the manager tipping it towards Glen.

[Wildweasel74]

Hard to call, Glen nowhere near playing as good as last Yr,Slaughtneil aging but been the best team in Derry this tee.

[Estimator]

We through to the final and still no better forwards in the Derry championship than what's, already on the county team. Not worrying for next year.

Copied and Pasted a few successful schools/underage teams over the last 10 years.
Would there be any forwards from any these teams that haven't had a look in at the county team?* 
Can't think of anyone that stands out, from those panels, that haven't had some sort of opportunity to produce the goods at county level.
We'll likely see the likes of Niall O'Donnell and more of Matthew Downey over the couple of years.

*Obviously there are a few players from other counties that wouldn't be eligible

2013 Hogan Cup Final
St Patrick's Maghera: C McCloy; C Gallagher, D Hughes, O Hegarty; C Mulholland (0-1), C Carville, C Glass (0-1); J Kearney (0-2), Peter Cassidy; G Bradley (0-5, 1 free), N McNicholl (0-3), P Hagan, C O'Doherty, S O'Hara (0-4), D Tallon (1-2) Subs: C Convery for McNicholl (43 mins), C McDevitt for Mulholland (44), N Toner (0-1) for P Hagan (51), D McFaul for O'Hara (56), Padraig Cassidy (0-1) for Bradley (58)

2014 Hogan Cup Final
St. Pat’s Maghera: Ciaran McCloy; Paul McNeill, Oisín Hegarty, Caólan McNeill; Cormac O’Doherty, Peter Hagan, Cathal Mulholland; Conor Glass, Conor Cassidy; Jack Doherty, Paul McAtamney, Meehaul McGrath; Paul Gunning, Danny Tallon, Conor Convery.
Scorers for St. Pat’s: Conor Glass 1-1, Danny Tall 0-2, Conor Convery 0-1 (0-1f), Paul McAtamney and Conor Cassidy 0-1 each.

2016 Hogan Cup Final
St Pat’s
Seán Cassidy (Slaughtneil), Odhran McKeever (Dungiven), Patrick Turner (Swatragh) Keelan Feeney (Slaughtneil), Patrick McCormick (Moneyglass), Shea Downey (Lavey),Conor McAllister (Slaughtneil), Conor Glass (Glen), Jack Doherty (Glen), Patrick Kearney (Swatragh), Paddy Quigg (Kilrea), Oisin McWilliams (Swatragh), Conal Darragh (Glen), Shane McGuigan (Slaughtneil), Francis Kearney (Swatragh)
Sub:
Fergal Higgins (Dungiven) for Darragh (42)

Scorers for St Pat’s: Shane McGuigan 1-3 (0-2f), Patrick Kearney 1-0, Shea Downey, Jack Doherty & Oisin McWilliams 0-1 each.

Ulster Minor Champions 2015
Derry: Ben McKinless; Niall Keenan, Conor McGrogan, Conor Maunsell; Oisin Duffin, Michael McEvoy, Eoghan Concannon; Patrick Kearney (0-3), Jack Doherty; Patrick Coney, Shea Downey (0-1), Conor Glass (0-1); Tiarnan Flanagan (1-0), Barry Grant (0-1), Shane McGuigan (0-5). (Subs) Fergal Higgins for B Grant, 37mins; Francis Kearney for T Flanagan, 54mins; Niall McAtamney for P Coney, 57mins;

2017 MacRory Cup Final
St Mary's GS Magherafelt: O Lynch; C McCluskey, S Kelly, M Loughran; D Cassidy 0-1, C Devlin, E Kelly; K McCann, T Doherty 0-1; A Connolly 0-1, D Bradley 0-6 (4f), S McErlain; L Quinn 0-3, K Small 0-5, C Murphy. Subs: T McAteer 0-2 for McCann (43), M Rodgers for Connolly (58), J McCann for Kelly (58). Yellow cards: McCann (11), E Kelly (23).

Ulster Minor Champions 2017
Derry: O Hartin; O McGill, C McCluskey, S McKeever; S McErlain, D Rafferty, C McShane (0-1); P Grogan (0-1), O McWilliam (0-1 free); P Quigg (0-4, 0-1 free), R Mullan, D Cassidy (0-3); P McCarron (1-3), L McWilliams (0-6, 0-2 frees), M McGrogan.
Subs: P McHugh (0-1) for M McGrogan, C Brown for R Mullan (h-t), A Doherty (0-1) for O McGill (38), M Bradley for D Cassidy (47), F Mortimer (0-1) for P Quigg (55), C Murphy for B McCarron (59).

Ulster Minor Champions 2020
Derry: Kian McGonigle, Adam McGonigle, Patrick McGurk, Conor Shiels, Mark Doherty, Eoin McEvoy, Lee Brady, Dan Higgins, Patrick O'Kane, Donnacha Gilmore, Matthew Downey, Jody McDermott, Charlie Diamond, Lachlan Murray, Niall O'Donnell. (Subs) Jude Moore for C Shiels, 46mins; Calum Downey for N O'Donnell, 52mins; Niall Duggan for L Brady, 61mins; Ryan McEldowney for C Diamond, 64mins;
Derry scorers: Niall O'Donnell (1-0), Lachlan Murray (0-4, 1m), Charlie Diamond (0-3, 2f), Matthew Downey (0-6, 4f), Ryan McEldowney (0-1)

2022 MacRory Cup Final
St Mary's Grammar School, Magherafelt: James Gribbin, Conall Heron, Niall Rafferty, Simon Matterson, Ronan Walls, Eoin McEvoy (capt), Ruairi Forbes (0-1), Lorcan Convery (0-1), Ryan McEldowney (0-1), Benen Kelly, Conhuir Johnston, John Lavery (0-1), Cahir Quinn (1-0), Tom Shivers (0-1), Niall O'Donnell (1-3).

[Real Talk]

Very comprehensive list of players Estimator and I'm not sure who would make a difference in 2023.  There comes a time when players like Chrissey  McKaigue and Benny Herron time at this level has to end and that can't be far away.  So far the Senior Club Championship has been very ordinary ... Jerome McGuigan and the Ballinderry keeper McKinless look to be good players ... still think also Jack Doherty also has potential.   

The commitment is unreal and what I find is that there is limited time opportunities {in their work /lifestyle} for self-employed fella s to be get involved.  I thought that Ben McCarron got too few minutes playing time to test his ability and mentality at this level.  But they put into a titanic effort to become Ulster Champions for a fairly young team.

If they could do it once, then they should be able do it again but we need new blood ... anyone with ideas out there ?

[theticklemister]

We through to the final and still no better forwards in the Derry championship than what's, already on the county team. Not worrying for next year.

Copied and Pasted a few successful schools/underage teams over the last 10 years.
Would there be any forwards from any these teams that haven't had a look in at the county team?* 
Can't think of anyone that stands out, from those panels, that haven't had some sort of opportunity to produce the goods at county level.
We'll likely see the likes of Niall O'Donnell and more of Matthew Downey over the couple of years.

*Obviously there are a few players from other counties that wouldn't be eligible

2013 Hogan Cup Final
St Patrick's Maghera: C McCloy; C Gallagher, D Hughes, O Hegarty; C Mulholland (0-1), C Carville, C Glass (0-1); J Kearney (0-2), Peter Cassidy; G Bradley (0-5, 1 free), N McNicholl (0-3), P Hagan, C O'Doherty, S O'Hara (0-4), D Tallon (1-2) Subs: C Convery for McNicholl (43 mins), C McDevitt for Mulholland (44), N Toner (0-1) for P Hagan (51), D McFaul for O'Hara (56), Padraig Cassidy (0-1) for Bradley (58)

2014 Hogan Cup Final
St. Pat's Maghera: Ciaran McCloy; Paul McNeill, Oisín Hegarty, Caólan McNeill; Cormac O'Doherty, Peter Hagan, Cathal Mulholland; Conor Glass, Conor Cassidy; Jack Doherty, Paul McAtamney, Meehaul McGrath; Paul Gunning, Danny Tallon, Conor Convery.
Scorers for St. Pat's: Conor Glass 1-1, Danny Tall 0-2, Conor Convery 0-1 (0-1f), Paul McAtamney and Conor Cassidy 0-1 each.

2016 Hogan Cup Final
St Pat's
Seán Cassidy (Slaughtneil), Odhran McKeever (Dungiven), Patrick Turner (Swatragh) Keelan Feeney (Slaughtneil), Patrick McCormick (Moneyglass), Shea Downey (Lavey),Conor McAllister (Slaughtneil), Conor Glass (Glen), Jack Doherty (Glen), Patrick Kearney (Swatragh), Paddy Quigg (Kilrea), Oisin McWilliams (Swatragh), Conal Darragh (Glen), Shane McGuigan (Slaughtneil), Francis Kearney (Swatragh)
Sub:
Fergal Higgins (Dungiven) for Darragh (42)

Scorers for St Pat's: Shane McGuigan 1-3 (0-2f), Patrick Kearney 1-0, Shea Downey, Jack Doherty & Oisin McWilliams 0-1 each.

Ulster Minor Champions 2015
Derry: Ben McKinless; Niall Keenan, Conor McGrogan, Conor Maunsell; Oisin Duffin, Michael McEvoy, Eoghan Concannon; Patrick Kearney (0-3), Jack Doherty; Patrick Coney, Shea Downey (0-1), Conor Glass (0-1); Tiarnan Flanagan (1-0), Barry Grant (0-1), Shane McGuigan (0-5). (Subs) Fergal Higgins for B Grant, 37mins; Francis Kearney for T Flanagan, 54mins; Niall McAtamney for P Coney, 57mins;

2017 MacRory Cup Final
St Mary's GS Magherafelt: O Lynch; C McCluskey, S Kelly, M Loughran; D Cassidy 0-1, C Devlin, E Kelly; K McCann, T Doherty 0-1; A Connolly 0-1, D Bradley 0-6 (4f), S McErlain; L Quinn 0-3, K Small 0-5, C Murphy. Subs: T McAteer 0-2 for McCann (43), M Rodgers for Connolly (58), J McCann for Kelly (58). Yellow cards: McCann (11), E Kelly (23).

Ulster Minor Champions 2017
Derry: O Hartin; O McGill, C McCluskey, S McKeever; S McErlain, D Rafferty, C McShane (0-1); P Grogan (0-1), O McWilliam (0-1 free); P Quigg (0-4, 0-1 free), R Mullan, D Cassidy (0-3); P McCarron (1-3), L McWilliams (0-6, 0-2 frees), M McGrogan.
Subs: P McHugh (0-1) for M McGrogan, C Brown for R Mullan (h-t), A Doherty (0-1) for O McGill (38), M Bradley for D Cassidy (47), F Mortimer (0-1) for P Quigg (55), C Murphy for B McCarron (59).

Ulster Minor Champions 2020
Derry: Kian McGonigle, Adam McGonigle, Patrick McGurk, Conor Shiels, Mark Doherty, Eoin McEvoy, Lee Brady, Dan Higgins, Patrick O'Kane, Donnacha Gilmore, Matthew Downey, Jody McDermott, Charlie Diamond, Lachlan Murray, Niall O'Donnell. (Subs) Jude Moore for C Shiels, 46mins; Calum Downey for N O'Donnell, 52mins; Niall Duggan for L Brady, 61mins; Ryan McEldowney for C Diamond, 64mins;
Derry scorers: Niall O'Donnell (1-0), Lachlan Murray (0-4, 1m), Charlie Diamond (0-3, 2f), Matthew Downey (0-6, 4f), Ryan McEldowney (0-1)

2022 MacRory Cup Final
St Mary's Grammar School, Magherafelt: James Gribbin, Conall Heron, Niall Rafferty, Simon Matterson, Ronan Walls, Eoin McEvoy (capt), Ruairi Forbes (0-1), Lorcan Convery (0-1), Ryan McEldowney (0-1), Benen Kelly, Conhuir Johnston, John Lavery (0-1), Cahir Quinn (1-0), Tom Shivers (0-1), Niall O'Donnell (1-3).

Really enjoyed that lad. Thank you

[Hoof Hearted]

Some amount of names on those lists taking the field this Sunday

[lenny]

Outside of the staring team from last year I've seen a number of good forwards this year. Matthew Downey, lachlann murray, lorcan mcwilliams, sean kearney, dan higgins and shane heavron have all been very impressive. I don't think Gallagher will be aiming to bring in a raft of new players. Maybe 2 or 3 at the most.

[Wildweasel74]

Any of them score up to 3pts from play in a game? I watched the Kerry Semi finals last week, they had lads no where the Kerry team who start in the Derry forward line. judging from their scoring ability in those club games which is not happening in Derry. We got to an All-Ireland Semi but tallied the lowest score for many a year.

[Hoof Hearted]

So glen hammered the second best team in derry for the second year in a row
If the hunger is there, who knows what they can achieve
And this year, done without arguably last year's best player
Congrats glen

[BrotherMore6592]

Derry club football as bad as Donegal, both counties clubs playing like the pre 2010 era dragging football down.