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GAA Discussion / Re: County Manager Merry go round
« on: October 08, 2018, 04:37:24 PM »
Is that all the vacant County Managers posts filled now ?

GAA Discussion / Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
« on: October 08, 2018, 04:34:40 PM »
Do the Mayo posters expect Boyle & Seamie O'Shea to hang around another year?

The draw is on Thursday, nailed on Galway & Mayo will meet before a Connacht Final again.
A lot depends on what the players in question think. It's a long time since Mayo players weren't going flat out to late August at the very least and even up to the third Sunday in September. And the effort they had to put in was manic to put it mildly.
Now, with the extended break and the re-appearance of Horan, I'd say the mood among the players is pretty upbeat.

Its also possible that some of them might have enjoyed life outside the commitment of County Football and call it a day

Derry / Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
« on: October 08, 2018, 04:29:46 PM »
With only the final to go who would you say has impressed in this years championship and would be deserving of a county call up?

Holly, Colm McGoldrick, Ciaran Mullan, Eamonn McGill, Niall Toner, Ryan Bell, Benny Herron & the Lavey keeper have been the stand outs for me. I was also impressed with Jack Doherty from Glen yesterday. I wonder how many of them will be on the panel this year.
McGill, Toner and Bell definitely impressed me. The Lavey keeper would be an interesting one to call up, I think he's about 30 years old and never played County but he's a good keeper, has been for a while, and his kicking is maybe the best of any keeper I've seen all year. 

Any number of the Coleraine boys would be worth a go in the first Derry squad of 2019 to be honest.  Colm McGoldrick in particular though.

What was the Lavey keeper's short kick-outs like ?

I think he got a county trial about 7/8 yrs ago

Derry / Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
« on: October 03, 2018, 10:24:02 PM »
Final likely be Glen v Coleraine!

Hope so,  I like to see a more expansive game of football played with real passion and drive ......sure who knows !!!!!

GAA Discussion / Re: JP McManus - Christmas comes early
« on: September 30, 2018, 05:28:58 PM »
I wonder how much the Football Clubs in Kilkenny are getting ?

GAA Discussion / Re: Derry 1993 - 25 years on
« on: September 24, 2018, 01:17:41 PM »
I always felt Derry was Ulsters best chance to keep the run going in 1995. Tyrone beat them, but I thought they wouldn't have enough to win an AI. And so it proved. 1995 was a big opportunity for Derry to win a second AI.

It's weird that that team never really got close again.

Agree. If there was a backdoor in 1995, Derry would have had their 2nd all-ireland.
Dont know , they couldn’t beat a 13 man tyrone team in 95. They sacked Coleman in 94. They hadn’t really a serious forward line and they played an auld done cork team in the final and just about bate them.  Armagh were a much better football team in 02. As joe Kernan says it takes a great team to win 2.

That Cork team bate Mayo 5 15 to 0-10 … doesn't read like a " auld done" score

GAA Discussion / Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
« on: September 23, 2018, 12:48:53 PM »
Peter Canavan and who else with Horan?

Canavan not likely to get involved with Mayo

GAA Discussion / Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
« on: September 20, 2018, 05:23:58 PM »
From an outsider's view ...…
At this juncture in Mayo football and to get all their best players committed is James Horan not the best bet?

Derry / Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
« on: September 19, 2018, 05:09:54 PM »
I'm still of the belief that Damian McErlean needs to add an experienced football Club Coach/Manager who is 'tuned in' to what is required when we have to travel to places like Limerick, Waterford and especially to Antrim ....  this a completely different and challenging environment to what we have been used to.   

We need experienced mature players and a small sprinkling of our successful under 20 players to get us out of Div 4.  Grit and disciplined determination is a 'core' requirement and lets hope that Mark Lynch can give us another year.

Tyrone / Re: Tyrone Club Football and Hurling
« on: September 17, 2018, 11:22:45 PM »
Paul Devlin's, Moortown, cub now playing for Ardboe as well.

Must have been a massive fall out for this too happen??
Can't understand how players can go to rival clubs, do they not receive a tough time then from the club they left, even lose friendships or is their a big rivilry with Mooretown and Arboe considering Mooretown havent been a force since the early 90's?
Mick Hagan done the same recently but back with Mooretown now!!
I hear Conal Devlin a nephew of Fay's, the cub is a wee tank!! Won a lot of dirty ball yesterday and pulled outa nothing!!

Was there not a pretty big split in Moortown with very few of Pauls minor teams still playing?

What sort of shape is the Old Windmill pitch in?

Its in deadly shape that long hot summer killed the 'rushes'

Derry / Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
« on: September 17, 2018, 11:07:17 PM »

12.30 PM: Glack v Limavady by 3

2 00 PM: Greenlough v Ballinascreen by 2

4 15 PM: Drumsurn v Ballymaguigan by 2

5 45 PM: Glen v Ballinderry by 5


12 30 PM: Sean Dolans v Moneymore by 9

2 00 PM: Lavey v Loup by 4

4 30 PM: Banagher v Steelstown by 6

6 00 PM: Coleraine v Slaughtneil by 7

Derry / Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
« on: July 25, 2018, 07:38:36 PM »
Expect nothing else.  Barker and Co dont have a notion.

Clubs wanted their county players for all matches so what do you expect. This is the only solution and as far as I’m concerned Barker and co have been excellent. If clubs were prepared to play starred games without county players as in other counties this wouldn’t be an issue. You can’t have it both ways.

That is correct but there are problems with mid-week games : 1 -- It is very difficult for the away team to get their players available for long distance game e.g. Desertmartin v Slaughtmanus or Steelstown v Lissan and 2 -- Impossible, as has been already said, to full-fill a Reserve game in mid week when the teams are located a long way apart. 

But this is a trial year and hopefully the system can be "tweeked" to address these issues

Croke Park would need to come to "grips" with the real problems of addressing Player Welfare and spend less time placating the Kildares and Dublins of the "nearly professional" Gaelic Football's elite

Derry / Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
« on: June 13, 2018, 05:42:30 PM »
Good post Estimator. Would be good to see equivalent stats for other provinces to give context.

Would be interesting to see if other counties with relatively strong club, underage and school success have as much difficulty in translating that onto the senior county level.

Slightly off topic, we are where we deserve to be this year in terms of senior football team.
Tactically inept management in place as a result of an inept county board.
Not all the best players are involved, eg Danny Heavron.
Slaughtneil success hampered us, but realistically it shows the lack of strength in depth of the squad as probably only 3-4 starting players are from  slaughtneil.
Apathy from supporters has to be expected given the quality being offered up in terms of tactics and performance (we are not the only county like this though).

In other words, we have very little going for us apart from recent minor success and current u20s. It remains to be seen if mcerlain can translate that to the senior stage. It might be too much for anyone to do, but more difficult for an inexperienced....and dare I say it, inexpensive manager.

Time will tell, but currently it's sh1t being a Derry fan.

I think McErleans handling of things this season has hampered us for the next couple of seasons. Danny Heavron done his cruciate playing a club game he wouldn't have been playing had he been playing county football, so he won't be there next season. I have also heard Keenan and McFaul have both said they won't play again as long as McErlean is in charge after he dropped them the panel with 2/3 league games to go. Apparently Mark Lynch had said this was his last year playing county football so at early stages the panel could struggle to get stronger for the start of next season. Hope Keenan/McFaul was just a knee jerk comment and after a long winter are happy enough to be back on board again and Lynch decides to go again as he adds experience.

if Slaughtneil don't win the Ulster club Derry should walk Divison 4 and a winnable first round championship draw might help create more of a buzz among the panel.

Great post by estimator ....
D Heavron didn't do his cruciate until 11th March in a Club challenge game.  If he had been on the County Panel he would have been available for 4 games ...... maybe the injury would have happened anyway ... who knows.  In terms of 2017 Danny was our best and most consistent performer .... One of the most important functions of a manager is to get the best players on the pitch

Derry / Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
« on: June 12, 2018, 10:24:23 AM »
Anyone care to explain why Damian Heavron has been excluded from the panel, very poor from of Mc Erlaine on this one. What has Heavron done previously with Barton last year to warrant such treatment. I am surprised there hasn't been more made of this considering the guy is one of our best players, especially as we have a seriously young panel who need all the help they can get.

On the surface it's a bizarre omission but the proof of the pudding will be in the eating. We'll have to see how Derry progress through the season and I'd say Damien has a gameplan in mind for the players he's picked. As a Rossa man I've mixed feelings but it should make us stronger having Danny and Emmett available all year and having a point to prove.
He would need to have a better gameplan than he had for the minor final. Heavron will be a huge loss in my opinion, great football brain and vision.  Both Emmett and Ryan would be very useful options in Division 3 football in January/February and would add a physical presence. Return of some more experienced players balances things a wee bit but getting up from Division 3 is by no means an easy task with the panel available.
What a county we live in. Derry had a terrible record at minor until Damian came in.He has won 2 Ulster titles and got to an All Ireland minor final,something which looked so out of reach until his appointment and yet you can only see the negative. Granted we got hammered,but don't slate the man before the season starts.
Read the post. I did not slate the man, I questioned the game plan for the minor final - the main reason the game was over as a contest so early.  How do you think we will do in Division 3 with the players available?

Your analysis of the Minor final was correct.  We are going to go into Div 3 with some very inexperienced players.  Westmeath had a good league performance in Div 4 last year and Armagh were unfortunate not to get promoted in 2017.  I don't think we will beat Armagh, Fermanagh or Sligo and Longford have always been a 'bogey' team .... so no promotion for us in 2018.   That said the challenge for us is to build an effective game plan with a competent 'kick-out' strategy.  We will also need to work hard for each other all of the time.  Game-day management is very important and that will include a  'counter-attacking'  plan that gets scores and that best utilises the quality, pace and skill that we have available to us.  We have a lot of players of similar standard and it is vital we create a good team spirit in order to develop a strong 'desire to win' mentality.  Its unlikely that we will make an impact in the Ulster Championship but a good run in the Qualifiers will help us to continue to build a strong foundation for 2019.

That was my analysis of the Derry situation before the League began !!!!!

The manager is not up to this job

The question remains is the County Board up to grasping the nettle ?

GAA Discussion / Re: Derry V Kildare - Owenbeg, Sat 9th June 3pm
« on: June 07, 2018, 05:53:05 PM »
The problem Derry have at the moment is they don't have a 'tricky pacey' corner forward who can take scoring chances.  Emmett Bradley playing in the half - forward line scored well from play and frees against Donegal but I don't see any other scoring threat and Mark Lynch is playing very deep.  Kildare's despite being relegated from Div 1 have the edge over us in all-round quality and can win this game.

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