Is the earlier Championship a success or failure?

[Blowitupref]

Pat Spillane.


"I spoke to an executive from one of GAA's major sponsors during the week,"


"He complimented me on a recent column in which I complained (again) about how short the GAA inter-county season was.

"He agreed the association is shooting itself in the foot with the split season. By squeezing the season into a six-month slot, they are ignoring what makes the GAA the greatest sporting institution in this country, he suggested.

"Wearing his corporate hat, he predicted large companies will no longer be taken for fools by the GAA. They will not be rushing to part with big money to sponsor the All-Ireland series so long as they are run off so quickly.


Spillane added: "They have had three very intense games in three weeks, and it is asking a lot of amateur players.

"One of the hidden impacts of the split season is it's fuelling the rising cost of inter-county team expenses rather than reducing them, which was one of its touted benefits.

"Counties are now forced to carry much bigger squads because so many players are injured and this bumps up the costs of travelling and catering expenses."

[seafoid]

Michael Foley in the Sunday Times said that the current system is not the final system and that eventually it will be the provincials first with the League and championship combined

[Blowitupref]

Michael Foley in the Sunday Times said that the current system is not the final system and that eventually it will be the provincials first with the League and championship combined

An opinion piece by a journalist or be a good journalist. For that to happen it needs to be voted in by congress and the current system changed. Provincial championship under that system would become pre-season competitions with 2nd string teams in action and small crowds in attendance.

[seafoid]

Michael Foley in the Sunday Times said that the current system is not the final system and that eventually it will be the provincials first with the League and championship combined

An opinion piece by a journalist or be a good journalist. For that to happen it needs to be voted in by congress and the current system changed. Provincial championship under that system would become pre-season competitions with 2nd string teams in action and small crowds in attendance.

There would be less matches.  Currently D1 games are meaningless.

[Blowitupref]

Michael Foley in the Sunday Times said that the current system is not the final system and that eventually it will be the provincials first with the League and championship combined

An opinion piece by a journalist or be a good journalist. For that to happen it needs to be voted in by congress and the current system changed. Provincial championship under that system would become pre-season competitions with 2nd string teams in action and small crowds in attendance.

There would be less matches.  Currently D1 games are meaningless.

Don't think they are meaningless. First and foremost every team wants to retain their Div 1 status. Don't believe the theory that no team wants to reach the final, once in it a national title is there to be won. 

[seafoid]

Michael Foley in the Sunday Times said that the current system is not the final system and that eventually it will be the provincials first with the League and championship combined

An opinion piece by a journalist or be a good journalist. For that to happen it needs to be voted in by congress and the current system changed. Provincial championship under that system would become pre-season competitions with 2nd string teams in action and small crowds in attendance.

There would be less matches.  Currently D1 games are meaningless.

Don't think they are meaingless. First and foremost every team wants to retain their Div 1 status. Don't believe the theory that no team wants to reach the final, once in it a national title is there to be won. 

Everyone saw what happened to Mayo last year. The league only matters in D2 because of the Sam Maguire

[Wildweasel74]

What Happened Mayo would Happened anyway cause they are Mayo!

[Blowitupref]

Michael Foley in the Sunday Times said that the current system is not the final system and that eventually it will be the provincials first with the League and championship combined

An opinion piece by a journalist or be a good journalist. For that to happen it needs to be voted in by congress and the current system changed. Provincial championship under that system would become pre-season competitions with 2nd string teams in action and small crowds in attendance.

There would be less matches.  Currently D1 games are meaningless.

Don't think they are meaingless. First and foremost every team wants to retain their Div 1 status. Don't believe the theory that no team wants to reach the final, once in it a national title is there to be won. 

Everyone saw what happened to Mayo last year. The league only matters in D2 because of the Sam Maguire

Too much made of that, they lost to a Div 1 team a week after the league final. It was still a national title won in Croke Park for Mayo  and afterwards (two months later) they messed up in the group stage against Cork which cost them reaching the latter stages of the All Ireland series.

[JoG2]

Michael Foley in the Sunday Times said that the current system is not the final system and that eventually it will be the provincials first with the League and championship combined

An opinion piece by a journalist or be a good journalist. For that to happen it needs to be voted in by congress and the current system changed. Provincial championship under that system would become pre-season competitions with 2nd string teams in action and small crowds in attendance.

There would be less matches.  Currently D1 games are meaningless.

Don't think they are meaingless. First and foremost every team wants to retain their Div 1 status. Don't believe the theory that no team wants to reach the final, once in it a national title is there to be won. 

Everyone saw what happened to Mayo last year. The league only matters in D2 because of the Sam Maguire

Yes, they won a national title. League matters to the players, management teams, the vast majority of fans. No need to belittle it, it's teams on an equal footing going against each other week after week. You only have to look at how strong teams are these days compared to years ago and the crowds.
Take a breather

[seafoid]

What Happened Mayo would Happened anyway cause they are Mayo!

Derry could easily get injuries. I wouldn't be so complacent.

[lenny]

Michael Foley in the Sunday Times said that the current system is not the final system and that eventually it will be the provincials first with the League and championship combined

An opinion piece by a journalist or be a good journalist. For that to happen it needs to be voted in by congress and the current system changed. Provincial championship under that system would become pre-season competitions with 2nd string teams in action and small crowds in attendance.

There would be less matches.  Currently D1 games are meaningless.

Don't think they are meaingless. First and foremost every team wants to retain their Div 1 status. Don't believe the theory that no team wants to reach the final, once in it a national title is there to be won. 

Everyone saw what happened to Mayo last year. The league only matters in D2 because of the Sam Maguire

From 2003 to 2023 10 league winners have gone on to win Sam. Almost a 50% record so it's hardly a hindrance to have won the league. You're using one example of a league winner having a poor championship.If you look back over those years the league winners are way more likely to have a really good championship than flop.

[seafoid]

Michael Foley in the Sunday Times said that the current system is not the final system and that eventually it will be the provincials first with the League and championship combined

An opinion piece by a journalist or be a good journalist. For that to happen it needs to be voted in by congress and the current system changed. Provincial championship under that system would become pre-season competitions with 2nd string teams in action and small crowds in attendance.

There would be less matches.  Currently D1 games are meaningless.

Don't think they are meaingless. First and foremost every team wants to retain their Div 1 status. Don't believe the theory that no team wants to reach the final, once in it a national title is there to be won. 

Everyone saw what happened to Mayo last year. The league only matters in D2 because of the Sam Maguire

From 2003 to 2023 10 league winners have gone on to win Sam. Almost a 50% record so it's hardly a hindrance to have won the league. You're using one example of a league winner having a poor championship.If you look back over those years the league winners are way more likely to have a really good championship than flop.

The split season is not 20 years old. The status of the league now is not what it was even 3 years ago.

[Armagh18]

Michael Foley in the Sunday Times said that the current system is not the final system and that eventually it will be the provincials first with the League and championship combined

An opinion piece by a journalist or be a good journalist. For that to happen it needs to be voted in by congress and the current system changed. Provincial championship under that system would become pre-season competitions with 2nd string teams in action and small crowds in attendance.

There would be less matches.  Currently D1 games are meaningless.

Don't think they are meaingless. First and foremost every team wants to retain their Div 1 status. Don't believe the theory that no team wants to reach the final, once in it a national title is there to be won. 

Everyone saw what happened to Mayo last year. The league only matters in D2 because of the Sam Maguire

So did the league not matter all the years before the championship link was brought in?

Personally the league is important as an Armagh man we want to be in division 1 competing with the best teams. Its obviously used to geared towards the main event which is championship, but the league isnt meaningless.

[seafoid]

Michael Foley in the Sunday Times said that the current system is not the final system and that eventually it will be the provincials first with the League and championship combined

An opinion piece by a journalist or be a good journalist. For that to happen it needs to be voted in by congress and the current system changed. Provincial championship under that system would become pre-season competitions with 2nd string teams in action and small crowds in attendance.

There would be less matches.  Currently D1 games are meaningless.

Don't think they are meaingless. First and foremost every team wants to retain their Div 1 status. Don't believe the theory that no team wants to reach the final, once in it a national title is there to be won. 

Everyone saw what happened to Mayo last year. The league only matters in D2 because of the Sam Maguire

So did the league not matter all the years before the championship link was brought in?

Personally the league is important as an Armagh man we want to be in division 1 competing with the best teams. Its obviously used to geared towards the main event which is championship, but the league isnt meaningless.

The league matters for Armagh because you are in DIVISION TWO.
Say Derry win divison 1. They probably won't win Sam because the competition is a stitch up now between Dublin and Kerry who have the biggest panels. There are too many games in too short a time frame .

https://youtu.be/PU1GeyJIHe4

[Armagh18]

The league mattered for us last year and the year before that as well. It'll matter next year when we're hopefully back in division 1.

I'd say the Derry lads would love a division 1 title. Not that long ago they were in division 4