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When was the last time we won a championship game in clones against any county?

Was the semi final in 2012 v Monaghan in Clones?

Rearing a squad of wains for the past 5 years has put me out of touch with such things. But the pay on the day price of €30 for a seat in the stand raised an eyebrow. When did we start getting charged day-out-in-croker prices for 1st round Championship matches?

The Association has lost the run of itself.

The advance purchase prices for 2016 are the same as the prices in 2010. 7 years without a price rise is unheard of for just about anything. I think it's great value for money. No excuse for not buying in advance.

The only thing that I don't understand is the vast difference between the price to sit and stand. It's also an issue that a covered seat and an uncovered seat cost the same, especially if the weather is bad.

€25/€30 for any 1st round Ulster Championship match is poor enough value in my book..

Totally agree. To pay that amount of money into a bog standard ground is ridiculous I usually go to terrace for championship as travel costs enough also. While on prices Newry charge the same for covered stand as terrace for league. Now that's a disgrace are all league games the same?  I haven't been to any away last few years bar navan and can't remember prices there.

To be fair that is because the stand is basically never full for a league match, and so the people choosing to stand in the terraces do so because they prefer to stand. Still a bit ridiculous though.

There's a lot that sickens or annoys you seafoid. You need to chill out a bit. I never met such a wound up man from west of the Shannon

We're not part of a neo-liberalist army,
We all hate the 1 per cent.
Oh we'll really shake them up,
When we win their Euro cup,
'coz Ireland is the least equitable, highest debt to GDP, highest income gap, worst growth economy, lowest bond yields......team.

Brilliant 

Brolly's going to be on the receiving end of a prolonged sleeper-hold before long.

I thought he was making some decent points to be fair. The overtraining and control of player's lives, and not exclusively at inter county level, is an issue that may be come more and more to the fore in the near future.

Partition was talked about pre-1920. Carson and his German guns, UVF threats to use same guns if Home Rule granted.

My question is, had the British govt just washed their hands with Ireland and left the Unionists to their own devices, what would have happened? I mean, what did Britain really stand to gain remaining in Ireland, as they were already under pressure since 1916 (and look how much trouble it's been for them since). Unionists on another island, why didn't they just say "feck them!". I mean, the Brits abandoned many unionists in border counties. A few hundred thousand in what became the North they could've easily abandoned too. It wouldn't have cost them a second thought.

The Curragh Mutiny showed that the British Army in Ireland couldn't be trusted to fight against Unionists, in the event of Westminster saying 'to hell with the Protestants' they could have decided to row in with the UVF. Also, plenty of Ulster Unionists were in the House of Lords and best mates with other peers who would probably have blocked any attempts at 'abandoning' the north.

As James Craig put it.
"All I boast of is that we are a Protestant Parliament and a Protestant State. It would be rather interesting for historians of the future to compare a Catholic State launched in the South with a Protestant State launched in the North and to see which gets on the better and prospers the more. "

I wonder how the prospering bit and getting on thing is working out? Any updates on that?

Craig and Carson had to invent a culture for the Protestant state for the Protestant people that justified the status quo where the Taigs were at the bottom of the caste system. With industries like shipbuilding employing protestants exclusively it would go on forever. And England would always be the same. What could possibly go wrong.
Cavan collaborated and won over 30 Ulster titles while the model worked.
The problem with racist systems is that they are self defeating economically. Keeping people down is bad for the economy. It means the wrong focus. If you do it for too long the whole system can collapse.
The Brits changed as well. Nobody in England or Scotland gives a shit about the Somme.

I'd say a lot of people in Eng or Scot never heard of the Somme.

It's baffling to me why the Somme is looked upon as some heroic event by Protestants. Tens of thousands of young men used as cannon fodder by an empire that didn't give two fcuks about them. What an appalling waste of life. Instead of celebrating these young men's bravery and loyalty to the King, they should look at it and be outraged at the needless loss of life of their forefathers and make a conscious decision that the same thing won't happen again. If they at least thought like that, at least those young men's lives would have been worth something.

Allied with the fact that they don't have a monopoly on the Irish suffering in the Somme, as plenty of IV members were packed off to die winning rights for Belgium by Redmond in a supposed effort to secure Home Rule.

Are the championship draws online?
Samfever saying as you think the team I've named is that far off the mark I would like to see what you think the team may be?

They're on the Facebook page if not the county website.

Who gives a f**k!

I am going to support the north during these championships!

I never lived in the south and have far more in common with the northern prods than I ever did the southern Catholics.

I hope both do well but you can shove both national anthems up your arise, I have no use for anything that divides us as a people.

Up Armagh ya b**tards.

Good on you Stew, we should all be more like you. Us other northerners who support the Republic team obviously haven't taken the time (or don't have the intellect) to weigh up those factors.

Seeing as you've more in common with the northern Prods than the southern Catholics, it would be a good idea to go watch the NI matches in some shaddy pub in Craigavon; I'm sure they'll be happy to put on the Armagh afterwards. Up Armagh and all that.

I'll f**k be supporting that shower... just because theyve managed to get to a major tournament doesnt mean thy've stopped hating me because of the religion i was born into. Oh aye but sure theyve changed and arent like that anymore 

Yes, that's right, all Protestant Northern Ireland fans hate Catholics.  Do you actually believe that?

Nobody does, but while they still sing chants such as 'The Bouncy Song', the overriding atmosphere will be one of anti-Catholic hatred.

FFS, wise up.

Thanks to your opinion I have now seen the light, I shall be attending "Northern Ireland" matches, waving my hybrid England fleg, belting out GSTQ at the top of my voice, and singing little songs that the nationalist community should just realise is part of unionist kulture so they know their rightful place in society.

And the worst kept secret in soccer since United's last hire and fire debacle has just been confirmed.

How is it because of me? I have never shouted abuse at anyone wearing an Armagh jersey,either on or off the pitch.

No doubt your argument in this thread is that he is no longer wearing an Armagh jersey?

Who gives a f**k!

I am going to support the north during these championships!

I never lived in the south and have far more in common with the northern prods than I ever did the southern Catholics.

I hope both do well but you can shove both national anthems up your arise, I have no use for anything that divides us as a people.

Up Armagh ya b**tards.

Good on you Stew, we should all be more like you. Us other northerners who support the Republic team obviously haven't taken the time (or don't have the intellect) to weigh up those factors.

Seeing as you've more in common with the northern Prods than the southern Catholics, it would be a good idea to go watch the NI matches in some shaddy pub in Craigavon; I'm sure they'll be happy to put on the Armagh afterwards. Up Armagh and all that.

I'll f**k be supporting that shower... just because theyve managed to get to a major tournament doesnt mean thy've stopped hating me because of the religion i was born into. Oh aye but sure theyve changed and arent like that anymore 

Yes, that's right, all Protestant Northern Ireland fans hate Catholics.  Do you actually believe that?

Nobody does, but while they still sing chants such as 'The Bouncy Song', the overriding atmosphere will be one of anti-Catholic hatred.

Joe Murphy has to start. As you lads said he was one of our best players in the league. He is having his best season ever for the Harps....bit prone to the odd black or yella though...sorry Joseph

Was just thinking that. He played very well from what I saw of him in the league, but the biggest problem is that he seems to get a black card every other game. Does a lot of running and I think Down suffered each time he got taken off.

Who gives a f**k!

I am going to support the north during these championships!

I never lived in the south and have far more in common with the northern prods than I ever did the southern Catholics.

I hope both do well but you can shove both national anthems up your arise, I have no use for anything that divides us as a people.

Up Armagh ya b**tards.

If you have no time for 'anything which divides us as a people', surely you should support neither team as they both are supporting a system which divides the people of this country into a northeastern segment and a 'rest of the country' segment?

Which is it, Anthony, that really grates with you most? Your jealousy at his abilities or the jealousy that he has the opportunity to travel?

We know he's not interested,we don't know why he's not interested.

Because there is more to life than football, and he's taking advantage of the few years of his life he has the opportunity to travel and see the world, without gobshites like you (who haven't stepped foot on a football pitch for decades) criticising him for it.