Brexit.

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seafoid

The UK is close to signing trade deals with Rockall, Ballyhaunis and Glenamaddy.
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

sid waddell

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Quote from: seafoid on September 14, 2018, 07:44:38 PM
The UK is close to signing trade deals with Rockall, Ballyhaunis and Glenamaddy.
Sealand must also be a likely one.

And Gortahork automatically comes with Glenamaddy.



Hardy

Quote from: heganboy on September 14, 2018, 02:50:06 PM
I think the probability of a 35% drop in the price of houses might be enough to put people off Brexit.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-45516678

Not at all. Brexiteer callers in to James O'Brien yesterday were pointing to this as an unexpected Brexit dividend for those struggling to get on the housing ladder!.

armaghniac

Quote from: Hardy on September 15, 2018, 12:45:47 PM
Quote from: heganboy on September 14, 2018, 02:50:06 PM
I think the probability of a 35% drop in the price of houses might be enough to put people off Brexit.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-45516678

Not at all. Brexiteer callers in to James O'Brien yesterday were pointing to this as an unexpected Brexit dividend for those struggling to get on the housing ladder!.

As we know in Ireland, the problem is that these people have lost their job or cannot get a loan so are not able to avail of the reduced price. Some people might benefit from it.
If at first you don't succeed, then goto Plan B

seafoid

https://www.irishtimes.com/business/economy/united-ireland-would-see-living-standards-in-republic-fall-by-15-1.3629748

Would love to see the assumptions used. Neoliberalism is a shit system if you want to grow demand.
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

Insane Bolt

Property prices in north of England may stagnate or even reduce in the event of a hard Brexit, but in south of England there are not enough houses to meet demand. I honestly don't know how the ordinary 5/8 person/family does it. Property where I live sells in less than 2 weeks, and it's crazy money.

seafoid

Quote from: Insane Bolt on September 15, 2018, 02:16:20 PM
Property prices in north of England may stagnate or even reduce in the event of a hard Brexit, but in south of England there are not enough houses to meet demand. I honestly don't know how the ordinary 5/8 person/family does it. Property where I live sells in less than 2 weeks, and it's crazy money.
London prices will fall when interest rates go up as they always do
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

haranguerer

The Times today reporting EU prepared to concede on backstop and settle for 'frictionless' border...

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/boost-for-may-as-eu-backs-irish-border-plan-fqpf06s62

armaghniac

Quote from: haranguerer on September 17, 2018, 08:52:11 AM
The Times today reporting EU prepared to concede on backstop and settle for 'frictionless' border...

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/boost-for-may-as-eu-backs-irish-border-plan-fqpf06s62

Headline writer taking liberties there. What the EU is proposing is electronic tagging of things crossing the Irish Sea, i.e. a particular way of implementing the backstop.
If at first you don't succeed, then goto Plan B

haranguerer

I couldn't get through the paywall, so could only see what was written about it on BBC, and the first few paragraphs of the article itself. I note it said about tracking shipping containers, but I assumed they meant on the back of trailers transporting them across border, but is actually just shipping itself? Thats good news.

armaghniac

It is a very badly written article, which manages to give the impression that the EU has agreed to cross border checks when in fact they proposed operational mechanisms to make the Irish Sea thing work.

They use the example of  the Canary Islands

"The EU wants a transit procedure or process," the note said. "Controls could happen at the companies [involved at either end of the transaction] and they would just scan a label on board ships [en route from Britain to Northern Ireland or the Irish Republic]." EU officials have noted that "controls like that exist for example between Spain and the Canary Islands" without any Spanish debate over an internal border in a country that is sensitive to separatism.
If at first you don't succeed, then goto Plan B

omagh_gael

Isn't this just dumbing down the language around an Irish sea border? Open border on Ireland but customs officials doing their checks in British ports (British customs) before they reach Ireland. Will the DUP accept this?

armaghniac

Quote from: omagh_gael on September 17, 2018, 02:13:53 PM
Isn't this just dumbing down the language around an Irish sea border? Open border on Ireland but customs officials doing their checks in British ports (British customs) before they reach Ireland. Will the DUP accept this?

Of course, they'll call them regulatory control officials, not customs men.
If at first you don't succeed, then goto Plan B

seafoid

Rees Mogg and co want no deal. They want chaos. May doesn't have a majority without them. She can't even deliver on the border. The chances of no deal must be very high now.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/sep/20/may-in-fight-to-save-chequers-brexit-plan-after-salzburg-ambush
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU