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General discussion / Re: Brexit.
« on: November 13, 2018, 10:20:52 PM »
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/nov/13/northern-irish-farmers-brexit-enniskillen

Maguire, who owns and rents farmland and does not want to return to the old days when there was “nothing but trouble” on the border, said: “To be quite honest, nobody knows what’s going on.”

He fears that if tariffs are put on sheep, his sales market is dead. “The first thing that will go are the sheep. Seventy percent of them go south to be killed. If there’s barriers there, the market goes,” Maguire said.

For him, the approach of the DUP is unfathomable. The party does not represent border communities and is threatening the livelihoods of farmers on the border, he said. “The DUP are backing themselves into a corner. They are not going to agree unless it’s their way or no way. They are holding the government to ransom,” Maguire said.

Protestant Farmers to a man voted leave. They hate the "red tape" that the EU enforces in return for subsidies. They think leaving the EU will remove this. Boy are they in for a shock.

No they didn't. Border farmers of all colours knew the dangers of Brexit and voted Remain.

Not so, as the article above shows.

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General discussion / Re: Brexit.
« on: November 12, 2018, 10:52:42 PM »
Joint RTÉ BBC programme now, with lots of people speaking over each other.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Connacht Club Championships 2018
« on: November 11, 2018, 03:09:34 PM »
Hyde park pitch looks in good shape.

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General discussion / Re: Poppy Watch
« on: November 11, 2018, 12:13:44 AM »
I assume with eloquence like this you must have been captain of the school debating team

I went to St Pauls secondary school, Beechmount West Belfast, there was no debating or eloquence.

We'd never have guessed.

So you’ve never worn a Easter lily or ant sort of badge representing something, and if anyone you know has, you’ll say the same thing to them? My post to the other snowflake was that someone wearing a poppy in Cornwall wearing a poppy for his personal reasons was to celebrate the Black and Tans? If that’s the case you are a d**khead

You are very quick to resort to abuse, the sure sign of a lack of argument.
Cornwall is not Ireland, wearing a military symbol in a place that fought is not the same as wearing it in the place that is the object of those military attentions.

So by saying someone is wrong and him calling you out is abuse means he’s wrong? Then you are more daft than I thought.


Calling people " d**khead" or "daft" does nothing to argue against their point, so it is simply abuse.

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I don’t have an argument. People complaining or feeling that someone has a different view to them

Views are one thing, symbols of military organisations, another.

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General discussion / Re: Poppy Watch
« on: November 10, 2018, 11:59:40 PM »
So you’ve never worn a Easter lily or ant sort of badge representing something, and if anyone you know has, you’ll say the same thing to them? My post to the other snowflake was that someone wearing a poppy in Cornwall wearing a poppy for his personal reasons was to celebrate the Black and Tans? If that’s the case you are a d**khead

You are very quick to resort to abuse, the sure sign of a lack of argument.
Cornwall is not Ireland, wearing a military symbol in a place that fought is not the same as wearing it in the place that is the object of those military attentions.

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General discussion / Re: Poppy Watch
« on: November 10, 2018, 06:47:03 PM »
Fair play to Tracey Magee, refusing to wear a poppy on UTV Live... girl has more balls than Frankie Fuckwit and all those other west Brits on UTV and local BBC

Maybe they have reasons for wearing them? Other than the view you think most people wear them? Does someone from Cornwall wearing one piss you off?

We're it for the sole reason to remember soldiers who died in World War I and II, I wouldn't have an issue whatsoever. But you know as well as I do that the thing has been completely hijacked to include all of the Brits' imperial misbehaviour. Any West Brit wearing a poppy is remembering the Black and Tans, Auxilliaries, murdering Para b**tards of Ballymurphy and Bloody Sunday, and colluding, murdering b**tards of the UDR and RUC.

So anyone wearing it, its to remember the Black and Tans? Holy f**k! I’ve heard it now ! What flipping age are you? You’ve allowed the unionist agenda to blind your view on the actual reason of it when it was brought out!

Respect the people who wear it for ones who died in the world wars, anyone wearing it for other reasons is a balloon!

Anyone who is wearing it choosing a symbol used to commemorate the Black and Tans, there is  no point in denying that. SOmeone can remember someone without coat trailing.

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Armagh / Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
« on: November 10, 2018, 02:15:20 PM »
Although I would agree that Cross hold the aces at the minute I still feel that next season any of Cullyhanna, Ballymacnab , Harps or Maghery could beat them. Maghery had major injuries this year. I was disappointed in Cullyhanna but in Nugent, Duffy and McQuillan, among others, they have some very good players. Nab are short on depth and would be disappointed in this season. Harps had a bad year but have good players and did get to minor final this year so will have others coming through. They might need a change in direction though either through new management or a shake up in tactics. My big hope is that teams go our believing they can win rather than throwing the towel in as they did in the past.

My only observation is that if Clarke does return, and that is never certain, then such a good additional player could turn Rangers from a team others might beat on a good day into one that was very hard to beat.

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General discussion / Re: Brexit.
« on: November 09, 2018, 10:47:38 PM »
Russian roulette really, no one has any idea how this will pan out. But personally I'd keep my hands in my pocket.
A no deal Brexit is still a real live potential outcome, and property prices will certainly fall in that event.

Property prices may fall, but interest rates would likely rise.

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General discussion / Re: Brexit.
« on: November 09, 2018, 08:11:50 PM »
The DUP can thweam and thweam all they want Cos the Tories can get labour votes.
It would be good for everyone if the UUP replaced the fruitcakes .

I don't know if Labour will save them.  Boris's brother resigned today and called for a referendum.

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Armagh / Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
« on: November 09, 2018, 11:44:00 AM »
You would have to questions Cross' depth when they had to introduce Tony Kernan in Ulster club who has barely kicked a ball this year?

Because they wanted him to "kick a ball" before the next round?

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General discussion / Re: Brexit.
« on: November 08, 2018, 11:46:42 PM »
Seemingly a leaked letter indicates that May has written to Arlene and Nigel and told them to get used to it.

Dear Arlene and Nigel,
Thank you for your letter of November 1 on the United Kingdom’s negotiations with the European Union. Your letter has raised a series of issues about the nature of the backstop.

On never wanting to use the backstop

The backstop is not, and will never be, our preferred outcome. As I said in my statement to parliament last month, it is an insurance policy that no-one in the UK or the EU wants or expects to use. Our overriding priority is to deliver a future partnership between the EU and the whole of the UK which delivers in full on the commitments we have made... The future relationship will apply across the United Kingdom as a whole.

On the permanence of the backstop
Your letter refers to the backstop as being a permanent arrangement enshrined in international law. We should be clear that the backstop would only ever be temporary. This is inherent in the Article 50 legal base on which the withdrawal agreement will be founded, which cannot aim to establish a permanent relationship. This position will need to be reflected in any backstop legal text we agree with the European Union. Furthermore I have been very clear that the government I lead would not accept being kept in a backstop arrangement indefinitely

On the backstop as a basis for the eventual deal
I fully understood your concerns that the backstop could become a legal mechanism which could be resurrected once we have our future relationship in place. We will ensure that we address them. When our future deal - which of course will avoid a hard border - comes into force the backstop must be legally superseded by that future relationship.

On what the backstop applies to
(The need to avoid a hard border) is why we put forward our proposal in June for a temporary UK-EU joint customs territory in the limited circumstances in which the backstop might apply. As you know, the EU has proposed that, although this option could be negotiated in the future, they want to maintain a Northern Ireland only “backstop to the backstop” in case the future negotiations are unsuccessful. I am clear that I could not accept there being any circumstances or conditions in which that ‘backstop to the backstop’, which would break up the UK customs territory, could come in to force. That is why it is critical that the provision for a UK-EU joint customs territory is legally binding in the Withdrawal Agreement itself, so that no ‘backstop to a backstop’ is required.

On time-limiting the backstop

Your letter also raised the issue of a time limit. We should be clear that a time limit on a UK-wide customs arrangement that simply resulted in a NI only “backstop to the backstop” coming into force would be totally unacceptable. We must preserve NI’s place in the UK customs territory, and I would never accept a time limit proposal which threatened that.

What happens to regulations in the backstop

The government has consistently said that the unique circumstances of NI could require specific alignment solutions in some scenarios, provided they are consistent with the constitutional and economic integrity of the UK.

Single electricity market
Your letter mentions, for example, the single electricity market, which is legally underpinned not by a bilateral arrangement but by single market regulations relating to the EU internal energy market. If we were to reject any targeted alignment of rules needed to maintain this arrangement, which is different to the market in the rest of the UK, then we would be making a choice to undermine security of power supply and disadvantage consumers and businesses across Northern Ireland. That is not a choice any government could or shouuld make.

Human and animal matter checks
Similarly, the all-island single epidemiological unit has for a long time protected animal and human health in NI and Ireland and there are statutory provisions for unique licensing, checks and control powers within the UK in this area.

Greater alignment?
Nonetheless it will clearly be essential that the scope of any alignment in a backstop scenario is carefully circumscribed to what is ‘strictly necessary’ to avoid any hard border. It will also be critical that any arrangements take account of the very important trade between GB and NI. Whilst we recognise there are already more than 30 existing types of ‘regulatory check’ between GB and NI at present, covering a range of products, it is nonetheless essential that arrangements operate sufficient flexibility in any scenario to preserve the UK’s internal market.

GB will continue to copy NI relations in the backstop

We are also reflecting on how to give expression to the pragmatic and political reality that, given that any backstop would apply only in time limited circumstances and for a temporary period with a view to that future UK-wide arrangement, we would not expect regulations to diverge between Great Britain and Northern Ireland during a backstop scenario.

In conclusion
Finally I welcome the commitment of you and your party as a whole to a negotiated outcome for an orderly withdrawal. I do not accept that a no deal outcome should be our preferred scenario, or that it is the most likely outcome. These are important times for our Union, for our economy and for the people and businesses across the UK. It is essential that, at such an important time, we are guided by the national interest and upholding our precious Union for the long-term. We all owe it to future generations to make the right decisions in the national interest.

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General discussion / Re: Movie reccomendations
« on: November 08, 2018, 12:59:54 AM »
Bohemian rhapsody is blooming marvellous.

Are you allowed to sing in the cinema? Or  bring an air guitar?

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General discussion / Re: Corny One for Friday
« on: November 07, 2018, 07:59:44 PM »
They told me I'd never be good at poetry because I'm dyslexic. But so far I've made 3 jugs and a vase and they’re lovely.

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General discussion / Re: Poppy Watch
« on: November 07, 2018, 01:53:24 AM »
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/46095169

Abuse is ok as long as it's directed at Fenians😡


Seriously though - I understand anti-Irish abuse is a crime in the UK. Surely the perpetrators should be easily identifiable in a soccer stadium and dealt with appropriately?

Well let's consider this.....John Taylor calls Varadkar.....'typical Indian'.....nothing happens
Sponsored burning of effigies and anything remotely Nationalist every year.....nothing happens
Sectarian abuse and death threats to McClean and Lennon.....nothing happens
Don't forget that up until recently the Head of State couldn't marry a Catholic.....they can now....but they themselves can't be a Catholic........now imagine if instead of Catholic it was Jew or Protestant or Muslim. You couldn't make it up but now you know why the Tories and DUP are made for each other.

I don't think the UK monarch could be Jewish or Muslim, or anything other than Church of England.  The monarch is head of the Church of England, so presumably has to be part of that religion in order to be able to function in that capacity.  I don't think that particular policy is anti-Catholic as such.  Any more than saying that a Presbyterian couldn't be pope.

Of course it is anti Catholic, the monarch shouldn't be running a church.
The UK is a sectarian state, they burn effigies of a Catholic at this time of year.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Ulster Club SFC 2018
« on: November 06, 2018, 10:20:04 PM »
Double header in Healy Park on the 18th

Let's hope there is less rain than the last couple of days.

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