Connacht final on tonight
Galway v Mayo in Tuam Stadium at 7pm
Ulster final Sunday, May 28th
Derry v Monaghan in Athletic Grounds at 6pm
Leinster final Wednesday May 31st
Dublin v Kildare in O'Moore Park 7:30pm
Munster final Friday June 2nd
Kerry v Cork in Austin Stack Park
All Ireland Quarter finals June 10th
Connacht winner v Ulster runner up
Ulster winner v Connacht runner up
Munster winner v Leinster runner up
Leinster winner v Munster runner up
All Ireland Semi finals June 24th
All Ireland final July 8/9th
All games will be live on TG4.
I used to love the minor championship when it was U18 and the All Ireland Final was before the senior final. I feel like it's not the same spectacle since it went to U17, I know it's only one year but you can nearly see in the build of the lads that they have a lot of development still to do. I could be over stating it but I feel as though the correlation between a good U18 making it into the senior county team is far greater than what you would currently have in U17.
Should be a decent game in Tuam tonight. A repeat of last year's Connacht final (Mayo won) and All Ireland final (Galway won) group game this year was won by one point by Galway deep into injury time.
A number of good quality footballers on display. For Galway Vincent Gill, Ross Coen, Shay McGlinchey, Charlie Cox, Seán Walsh and Mayo Rio Mortimer, Dara Nearly, Tommy Lydon, Darragh Beirne and Josh Carey.
15 minutes played in the Connacht final. Galway 0-3 Mayo 0-2. Took Mayo 13 minutes to score. Half time Galway 0-8 Mayo 0-7.
45 minutes played Galway 0-10 Mayo 2-10, 1st goal from a penalty, 2nd goal a fine low finish on 45 mins. FT Galway 1-10 Mayo 2-13
Shay McGlinchey is a grandson of Dominic and Mary McGlinchey.
Boyler will have enjoyed that. Two corner forwards brilliant- Byrne and Guilfoyle
Not a bad game this.
Strong 2nd half performance by Mayo, the two goals in a five mins proved the difference. Probably the best set of forwards Mayo have had on minor team since 2013. Galway cause not helped with Sean Walsh going off injured and didn't get as much impact off the bench as Mayo.
Great Ulster Final on TG4 here
what a mistake by the derry keeper. Extra time. Both keepers have been brilliant too
Brutal finish. Derry coaches must not watch MacRory games. Bit of deja vu about that.
Quote from: Link on May 28, 2023, 07:32:06 PM
Brutal finish. Derry coaches must not watch MacRory games. Bit of deja vu about that.
Monaghan were trying to get a goal far too soon. They had loads of time to get the 2 points. They got lucky
Brilliant game, with everything.
Derry are carrying a black card time out for about 8/9 minutes into ET.
Ger Dillon (Derry) has converted place kicks from all positions up to 45m out.
Cast iron penalty not given there.
Quote from: Wolfetones on May 28, 2023, 07:56:07 PM
Cast iron penalty not given there.
missed a few mins. Who for?
Thought draw was about right. I'd expect these keepers to save a few
Quote from: straightred on May 28, 2023, 08:04:51 PM
Quote from: Wolfetones on May 28, 2023, 07:56:07 PM
Cast iron penalty not given there.
missed a few mins. Who for?
Thought draw was about right. I'd expect these keepers to save a few
Derry. Penalties very harsh on 16 and 17 year old.
Quote from: Wolfetones on May 28, 2023, 08:06:19 PM
Quote from: straightred on May 28, 2023, 08:04:51 PM
Quote from: Wolfetones on May 28, 2023, 07:56:07 PM
Cast iron penalty not given there.
missed a few mins. Who for?
Thought draw was about right. I'd expect these keepers to save a few
Derry. Penalties very harsh on 16 and 17 year old.
Impossible to see on the tv coverage if it was cast iron or not.
I suppose at least Monaghan have had a bit of practice at the penalties. Tough way to lose a final for a young lad though
G what a bunch of teenage w**ks behind the goal
Super penalty to win it for Derry.
All round it was a great final, no shame for Derry to have to win it on a penalty shoot out :)
Monaghan have made up a lot of ground since their hammering last time out v Derry.
Derry minors missed all 5 of their penalties that they were awarded this year.
When will venues be announced for qf s? double header in breffni for connacht v ulster ones?
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on May 28, 2023, 08:13:40 PM
G what a bunch of teenage w**ks behind the goal
You must have been some craic growing up
Quote from: Wolfetones on May 28, 2023, 08:06:19 PM
Quote from: straightred on May 28, 2023, 08:04:51 PM
Quote from: Wolfetones on May 28, 2023, 07:56:07 PM
Cast iron penalty not given there.
missed a few mins. Who for?
Thought draw was about right. I'd expect these keepers to save a few
Derry. Penalties very harsh on 16 and 17 year old.
Harsh at all levels in inter county football however it's cruel on teens though at least Monaghan are still in the All Ireland competition
The referee kept Monaghan in that game. Some shockers
Martin O'Neill still talks about the penalty he missed for the minors in the 1970 All Ireland semi final.
I find it hard to get interested in minor football especially now that they are only 16 and 17. I think the very small attendance shows that some people feel the same.
Quote from: DhoireTheas on May 29, 2023, 02:38:05 AM
Martin O'Neill still talks about the penalty he missed for the minors in the 1970 All Ireland semi final.
I find it hard to get interested in minor football especially now that they are only 16 and 17. I think the very small attendance shows that some people feel the same.
Be interesting to see how many of these players, from bith sides, have a prolonged inter-county career at senior level.
Out of the, say 40 lads, it could be very minimal.
Quote from: marty34 on May 29, 2023, 07:29:20 AM
Quote from: DhoireTheas on May 29, 2023, 02:38:05 AM
Martin O'Neill still talks about the penalty he missed for the minors in the 1970 All Ireland semi final.
I find it hard to get interested in minor football especially now that they are only 16 and 17. I think the very small attendance shows that some people feel the same.
Be interesting to see how many of these players, from bith sides, have a prolonged inter-county career at senior level.
Out of the, say 40 lads, it could be very minimal.
Was thinking the same post game and I'd say possibly 2 from Derry and maybe 4-5 from Monaghan. Monaghan looked to have the bigger more athletic players whereas Derry were better footballers.
Quote from: OakLeaf on May 28, 2023, 11:50:08 PM
The referee kept Monaghan in that game. Some shockers
Jesus wept. The paranoia in derry transfers from the seniors to the minors i see. Is this the same ref that disallowed what looked like a perfect Monaghan goal early in the 2nd half?
Maybe if there's a ref among so we could clear that up. The forward was clearly outside the line when the keeper kicked the kickout. The forward gained possession inside the line so the ball didn't travel the full 13m. What's the rule here, does the ball need to travel 13m before a player from either team can touch it?
https://twitter.com/GAAKeeperCoach/status/1662881020515962881
https://twitter.com/JAMESKELLY9/status/1662978304738205696?t=6hPcswzKP3HlXVCJsWBwvg&s=19 (https://twitter.com/JAMESKELLY9/status/1662978304738205696?t=6hPcswzKP3HlXVCJsWBwvg&s=19)
Quote from: Fuzzman on May 29, 2023, 09:45:24 AM
https://twitter.com/JAMESKELLY9/status/1662978304738205696?t=6hPcswzKP3HlXVCJsWBwvg&s=19 (https://twitter.com/JAMESKELLY9/status/1662978304738205696?t=6hPcswzKP3HlXVCJsWBwvg&s=19)
That's the first i have seen of this, what was the goalkeeper thinking in the first place !
Quote from: straightred on May 29, 2023, 08:58:00 AM
Quote from: OakLeaf on May 28, 2023, 11:50:08 PM
The referee kept Monaghan in that game. Some shockers
Jesus wept. The paranoia in derry transfers from the seniors to the minors i see. Is this the same ref that disallowed what looked like a perfect Monaghan goal early in the 2nd half?
Maybe if there's a ref among so we could clear that up. The forward was clearly outside the line when the keeper kicked the kickout. The forward gained possession inside the line so the ball didn't travel the full 13m. What's the rule here, does the ball need to travel 13m before a player from either team can touch it?
https://twitter.com/GAAKeeperCoach/status/1662881020515962881
The ball has to travel over the D line before it csn be touched.
Had a derry plsyer infringed it would hsve bern a ball up.
But since it was a monaghan player who committed the error , derry were given a free out. Seems fair to me.
I dont buy into the ref punishing Derry. But am of the opinion Derry were far to soft in the tackle looking for frees and feigning injury.
But they were the better team and really didnt know when to close the game out.
Why the goalie didn't just get the ball as far away from goal in his last kiickout is beyond me. Poor direction from the sideline i imagine.
Quote from: Derryman forever on May 29, 2023, 11:49:25 AM
Quote from: straightred on May 29, 2023, 08:58:00 AM
Quote from: OakLeaf on May 28, 2023, 11:50:08 PM
The referee kept Monaghan in that game. Some shockers
Jesus wept. The paranoia in derry transfers from the seniors to the minors i see. Is this the same ref that disallowed what looked like a perfect Monaghan goal early in the 2nd half?
Maybe if there's a ref among so we could clear that up. The forward was clearly outside the line when the keeper kicked the kickout. The forward gained possession inside the line so the ball didn't travel the full 13m. What's the rule here, does the ball need to travel 13m before a player from either team can touch it?
https://twitter.com/GAAKeeperCoach/status/1662881020515962881
The ball has to travel over the D line before it csn be touched.
Had a derry plsyer infringed it would hsve bern a ball up.
But since it was a monaghan player who committed the error , derry were given a free out. Seems fair to me.
I dont buy into the ref punishing Derry. But am of the opinion Derry were far to soft in the tackle looking for frees and feigning injury.
But they were the better team and really didnt know when to close the game out.
Why the goalie didn't just get the ball as far away from goal in his last kiickout is beyond me. Poor direction from the sideline i imagine.
this is not correct.
The forward MUST start outside the D when the ball is kicked, BUT is allowed to go into the D to collect the ball. It does not have to travel 13 metres before a forward touches the ball.
Quote from: Walter Cronc on May 29, 2023, 08:41:45 AM
Quote from: marty34 on May 29, 2023, 07:29:20 AM
Quote from: DhoireTheas on May 29, 2023, 02:38:05 AM
Martin O'Neill still talks about the penalty he missed for the minors in the 1970 All Ireland semi final.
I find it hard to get interested in minor football especially now that they are only 16 and 17. I think the very small attendance shows that some people feel the same.
Be interesting to see how many of these players, from bith sides, have a prolonged inter-county career at senior level.
Out of the, say 40 lads, it could be very minimal.
Was thinking the same post game and I'd say possibly 2 from Derry and maybe 4-5 from Monaghan. Monaghan looked to have the bigger more athletic players whereas Derry were better footballers.
It's always hard to know how many will make the grade at senior - injuries, work, travel, just pure interest in doing it, and a manager that rates them are all variables. From what I seen of the Monaghan minor team, McGinnity, Finn, Mooney, Carolan and Mallen all look to have significant ability and have the potential to be senior inter county players. 5 prospects making the grade would be an excellent return from this minor team. Meehan and McKenna are underage next year and look decent too.
Quote from: Derryman forever on May 29, 2023, 11:49:25 AM
Quote from: straightred on May 29, 2023, 08:58:00 AM
Quote from: OakLeaf on May 28, 2023, 11:50:08 PM
The referee kept Monaghan in that game. Some shockers
Jesus wept. The paranoia in derry transfers from the seniors to the minors i see. Is this the same ref that disallowed what looked like a perfect Monaghan goal early in the 2nd half?
Maybe if there's a ref among so we could clear that up. The forward was clearly outside the line when the keeper kicked the kickout. The forward gained possession inside the line so the ball didn't travel the full 13m. What's the rule here, does the ball need to travel 13m before a player from either team can touch it?
https://twitter.com/GAAKeeperCoach/status/1662881020515962881
The ball has to travel over the D line before it csn be touched.
Had a derry plsyer infringed it would hsve bern a ball up.
But since it was a monaghan player who committed the error , derry were given a free out. Seems fair to me.
I dont buy into the ref punishing Derry. But am of the opinion Derry were far to soft in the tackle looking for frees and feigning injury.
But they were the better team and really didnt know when to close the game out.
Why the goalie didn't just get the ball as far away from goal in his last kiickout is beyond me. Poor direction from the sideline i imagine.
David Gough thinks otherwise. What hope have we if we cant get agreement on the rules. My own view is that it should have stood. The keeper made the mistake - these are the risks you take with a short kick out. I don't think we can say it affected the result though - there was plenty of time left. The Derry keeper had an up and down day. His mistake caused extra time too. However he then went on to win the shoot out for them and he had a few good saves in the game.
Good point about the injuries. Derry #12 was the biggest culprit
I have seen Derry being penalised this year because the derry player entered the D to pick up the ball . It resultrd in a throw up.
I believe this is the correct interpretation of the rule.
Quote from: Derryman forever on May 29, 2023, 01:25:47 PM
I have seen Derry being penalised this year because the derry player entered the D to pick up the ball . It resultrd in a throw up.
I believe this is the correct interpretation of the rule.
if its a derry kick out, then yes.
The ball must travel 13metres before being touched by a player on the same team.
It doesn't have to travel 13 metres before being touched by an opponent, as long as the opponent was more than 13 metres away (i.e. outside the D for a kickout) when the ball was kicked.
Quote from: westbound on May 29, 2023, 01:30:20 PM
Quote from: Derryman forever on May 29, 2023, 01:25:47 PM
I have seen Derry being penalised this year because the derry player entered the D to pick up the ball . It resultrd in a throw up.
I believe this is the correct interpretation of the rule.
if its a derry kick out, then yes.
The ball must travel 13metres before being touched by a player on the same team.
It doesn't have to travel 13 metres before being touched by an opponent, as long as the opponent was more than 13 metres away (i.e. outside the D for a kickout) when the ball was kicked.
This is the rule as per the current rule book.
QuoteIf the goalkeeper is not taking the kick-out, he shall stay in the small rectangle, and all other players, except the player taking the kick-out, shall be outside the 20m line, outside the semicircular arc and 13m from the ball until it has been kicked.
The ball shall travel not less than 13m and outside the 20m line before being played by another player of the defending team.
Quote from: twohands!!! on May 29, 2023, 03:52:54 PM
Quote from: westbound on May 29, 2023, 01:30:20 PM
Quote from: Derryman forever on May 29, 2023, 01:25:47 PM
I have seen Derry being penalised this year because the derry player entered the D to pick up the ball . It resultrd in a throw up.
I believe this is the correct interpretation of the rule.
if its a derry kick out, then yes.
The ball must travel 13metres before being touched by a player on the same team.
It doesn't have to travel 13 metres before being touched by an opponent, as long as the opponent was more than 13 metres away (i.e. outside the D for a kickout) when the ball was kicked.
This is the rule as per the current rule book.
QuoteIf the goalkeeper is not taking the kick-out, he shall stay in the small rectangle, and all other players, except the player taking the kick-out, shall be outside the 20m line, outside the semicircular arc and 13m from the ball until it has been kicked.
The ball shall travel not less than 13m and outside the 20m line before being played by another player of the defending team.
So an attacking player may run into the D and intercept theball while the defender must not attempt to prevent that happening.
I don't think so.
The ball has to travel outside the D before anyone can touch it
Quote from: Derryman forever on May 29, 2023, 04:21:36 PM
Quote from: twohands!!! on May 29, 2023, 03:52:54 PM
Quote from: westbound on May 29, 2023, 01:30:20 PM
Quote from: Derryman forever on May 29, 2023, 01:25:47 PM
I have seen Derry being penalised this year because the derry player entered the D to pick up the ball . It resultrd in a throw up.
I believe this is the correct interpretation of the rule.
if its a derry kick out, then yes.
The ball must travel 13metres before being touched by a player on the same team.
It doesn't have to travel 13 metres before being touched by an opponent, as long as the opponent was more than 13 metres away (i.e. outside the D for a kickout) when the ball was kicked.
This is the rule as per the current rule book.
QuoteIf the goalkeeper is not taking the kick-out, he shall stay in the small rectangle, and all other players, except the player taking the kick-out, shall be outside the 20m line, outside the semicircular arc and 13m from the ball until it has been kicked.
The ball shall travel not less than 13m and outside the 20m line before being played by another player of the defending team.
So an attacking player may run into the D and intercept theball while the defender must not attempt to prevent that happening.
I don't think so.
The ball has to travel outside the D before anyone can touch it
David Gough (who should know) said that only the defender couldn't touch it so I'm inclined to believe him.
Quote from: Derryman forever on May 29, 2023, 04:21:36 PM
Quote from: twohands!!! on May 29, 2023, 03:52:54 PM
Quote from: westbound on May 29, 2023, 01:30:20 PM
Quote from: Derryman forever on May 29, 2023, 01:25:47 PM
I have seen Derry being penalised this year because the derry player entered the D to pick up the ball . It resultrd in a throw up.
I believe this is the correct interpretation of the rule.
if its a derry kick out, then yes.
The ball must travel 13metres before being touched by a player on the same team.
It doesn't have to travel 13 metres before being touched by an opponent, as long as the opponent was more than 13 metres away (i.e. outside the D for a kickout) when the ball was kicked.
This is the rule as per the current rule book.
QuoteIf the goalkeeper is not taking the kick-out, he shall stay in the small rectangle, and all other players, except the player taking the kick-out, shall be outside the 20m line, outside the semicircular arc and 13m from the ball until it has been kicked.
The ball shall travel not less than 13m and outside the 20m line before being played by another player of the defending team.
So an attacking player may run into the D and intercept theball while the defender must not attempt to prevent that happening.
I don't think so.
The ball has to travel outside the D before anyone can touch it
David Cough must be wrong then ::)
It makes sense once the opponent is 13m prior to kick. What would happen if the keeper miskicked it and it travels inside the D and stops? Of course the attacker can play ball and defender can't, otherwise the play would freeze or the keeper would get off with it. Same as if a free taker kicks a free short, once the opponent the distance away before the free taken, he can then move after the ball is struck.
Quote from: Louther on May 29, 2023, 04:30:01 PM
Quote from: Derryman forever on May 29, 2023, 04:21:36 PM
Quote from: twohands!!! on May 29, 2023, 03:52:54 PM
Quote from: westbound on May 29, 2023, 01:30:20 PM
Quote from: Derryman forever on May 29, 2023, 01:25:47 PM
I have seen Derry being penalised this year because the derry player entered the D to pick up the ball . It resultrd in a throw up.
I believe this is the correct interpretation of the rule.
if its a derry kick out, then yes.
The ball must travel 13metres before being touched by a player on the same team.
It doesn't have to travel 13 metres before being touched by an opponent, as long as the opponent was more than 13 metres away (i.e. outside the D for a kickout) when the ball was kicked.
This is the rule as per the current rule book.
QuoteIf the goalkeeper is not taking the kick-out, he shall stay in the small rectangle, and all other players, except the player taking the kick-out, shall be outside the 20m line, outside the semicircular arc and 13m from the ball until it has been kicked.
The ball shall travel not less than 13m and outside the 20m line before being played by another player of the defending team.
So an attacking player may run into the D and intercept theball while the defender must not attempt to prevent that happening.
I don't think so.
The ball has to travel outside the D before anyone can touch it
David Cough must be wrong then ::)
It makes sense once the opponent is 13m prior to kick. What would happen if the keeper miskicked it and it travels inside the D and stops? Of course the attacker can play ball and defender can't, otherwise the play would freeze or the keeper would get off with it. Same as if a free taker kicks a free short, once the opponent the distance away before the free taken, he can then move after the ball is struck.
Technically, the gk can kick it a second time !
Who am i to argue with David Gough?
But if he is right the rule is stupid.
Derryman, of course he is right.
Why is a stupid rule?
Think about it if the rule stated that the ball must travel 13m before being touched by anyone else.
Goalie kicks the ball, it travels 10metres. The goalie sits on his arse for 20minutes and says no-one can touch the ball until it travels 13metres.
Perfect way to protect a lead! 😃
This is one occasion where the ladies rules are better than the men's. As long as you're 13m away when it's kicked you can take possession of the ball on any restart of play.
Quite ironic seeing Monaghan complaining about a refereeing decision when the clips of the calls that went their way in the semi final are all over the internet. Bit of what goes around comes around springs to mind me thinks
No announcement on venues for qf s ? GAA are a friggin nightmare for supporters to make arrangements
Quote from: larryin89 on May 31, 2023, 11:39:22 AM
No announcement on venues for qf s ? GAA are a friggin nightmare for supporters to make arrangements
They have little care for supporters. Probably waiting for the two other provincial finals to finish and then perhaps have a few double headers.
Dublin v Kildare Leinster final on tonight at 7:30 and Kerry v Cork Munster final on Friday at 7:30pm both live TG4.
Back to back Leinster titles for Dublin. 0-19 to 2-8 winners tonight.
Carrick on Shannon next sat 5:15 for Mayo v Monaghan
Quote from: larryin89 on May 31, 2023, 09:34:37 PM
Carrick on Shannon next sat 5:15 for Mayo v Monaghan
Derry v Galway before it at 3.30
Quote from: larryin89 on May 31, 2023, 09:34:37 PM
Carrick on Shannon next sat 5:15 for Mayo v Monaghan
Double header with Galway v Derry at 3:30pm
Other two quarters finals a double header in Nowlan Park at 1pm and 3pm
Quote from: Blowitupref on May 31, 2023, 09:44:20 PM
Quote from: larryin89 on May 31, 2023, 09:34:37 PM
Carrick on Shannon next sat 5:15 for Mayo v Monaghan
Double header with Galway v Derry at 3:30pm
Other two semi finals a double header in Nowlan Park at 1pm and 3pm
Kilkenny should get nothing football considering how poor an effort their county board put in to the game.
Quote from: fearsiuil on May 31, 2023, 11:35:45 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on May 31, 2023, 09:44:20 PM
Quote from: larryin89 on May 31, 2023, 09:34:37 PM
Carrick on Shannon next sat 5:15 for Mayo v Monaghan
Double header with Galway v Derry at 3:30pm
Other two semi finals a double header in Nowlan Park at 1pm and 3pm
Kilkenny should get nothing football considering how poor an effort their county board put in to the game.
Kilkenny play junior and recently won the all Ireland plus they have a decent county championship.
Quote from: Blowitupref on May 31, 2023, 09:44:20 PM
Quote from: larryin89 on May 31, 2023, 09:34:37 PM
Carrick on Shannon next sat 5:15 for Mayo v Monaghan
Double header with Galway v Derry at 3:30pm
Other two semi finals a double header in Nowlan Park at 1pm and 3pm
Is this they first year that there have been 4 Semi Finals ;D
;D
Was thinking that myself.
Quote from: Cavan19 on June 01, 2023, 08:54:48 AM
Quote from: Blowitupref on May 31, 2023, 09:44:20 PM
Quote from: larryin89 on May 31, 2023, 09:34:37 PM
Carrick on Shannon next sat 5:15 for Mayo v Monaghan
Double header with Galway v Derry at 3:30pm
Other two semi finals a double header in Nowlan Park at 1pm and 3pm
Is this they first year that there have been 4 Semi Finals ;D
A slight typo. Quarter finals of course.
Quarter finals live on the TG4 YouTube channel tomorrow
Dublin v Cork at 1pm https://www.youtube.com/live/9EKr3h_rryE?feature=share
Derry v Galway at 3:30pm
https://www.youtube.com/live/lt5d4j2se-Y?feature=share
Kerry v Kildare at 3pm
https://www.youtube.com/live/xBIFD1gkBTc?feature=share
Mayo v Monaghan at 5:15pm
https://www.youtube.com/live/1dJW6eq8iOY?feature=share
Half time Dublin 0-8 Cork 1-10
Full time Dublin 1-18 Cork 2-12
Some 2nd half performance by Dublin, levelled the game up deep into added time then moments later gifted a goal when the Cork defender under hit a fist pass back to the goal keeper.
Derry 1-5 to 0-2 up at half time.
Quote from: Champion The Wonder Horse on June 10, 2023, 04:04:43 PM
Derry 1-5 to 0-2 up at half time.
Derry good value for that lead, good goal on 15 minutes.
Cracking goal by Derry.
Result Kerry 2-13 Kildare 1-11.
What's semi final.draw?
Galway down to 14, black card followed by Red.
Derry lead 1-08 to 0-04
46mins played.
Dreadful Galway performance.
The basic skills so poor today.
Easy win for Derry
Galway very disappointing. Derry fairly sloppy at times too.
Galway have kicked it over the sideline about 5 or 6 times..poor performance. Much better from Derry today. Felt they underperformed in ulster final
FT Derry 1-13 Galway 0-4. Very routine win for the Ulster, young tribesmen won't be happy with that display looked fairly toothless with Sean Walsh.
Derry hammered Galway in Carrick. I hope it's not an omen for next week
Quote from: galwayman on June 10, 2023, 04:37:26 PM
Dreadful Galway performance.
The basic skills so poor today.
Easy win for Derry
Only kids so can't be too critical but realistically that's one of the worst ever displays by football team representing Galway, they didn't show up at all.
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on June 10, 2023, 05:00:21 PM
Quote from: galwayman on June 10, 2023, 04:37:26 PM
Dreadful Galway performance.
The basic skills so poor today.
Easy win for Derry
Only kids so can't be too critical but realistically that's one of the worst ever displays by football team representing Galway, they didn't show up at all.
Lol, jesus I wonder what you would have said if you were allowed to be too critical ;D
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on June 10, 2023, 05:00:21 PM
Quote from: galwayman on June 10, 2023, 04:37:26 PM
Dreadful Galway performance.
The basic skills so poor today.
Easy win for Derry
Only kids so can't be too critical but realistically that's one of the worst ever displays by football team representing Galway, they didn't show up at all.
Seniors wernt all that in salthill in 2013 , least the kids have youth on their side
Quote from: HiMucker on June 10, 2023, 05:03:21 PM
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on June 10, 2023, 05:00:21 PM
Quote from: galwayman on June 10, 2023, 04:37:26 PM
Dreadful Galway performance.
The basic skills so poor today.
Easy win for Derry
Only kids so can't be too critical but realistically that's one of the worst ever displays by football team representing Galway, they didn't show up at all.
Lol, jesus I wonder what you would have said if you were allowed to be too critical ;D
Sure it's minor, doesn't really matter, very hard on them to have such a non performance.
Good start for Mayo, not the best of defending by Monaghan on that goal. 10 mins played Mayo 1-2 Monaghan 0-2
Mayo defense throwing this game away
Edit-Mayo forwards throwing this game away
Monaghan have taken over since the 10th minute. Just 2 points for Mayo since then and 1-7 to Monaghan. HT Mayo 1-4 Monaghan 1-9
It kind of stood out since start of championship Mayo were a little light and small ,Rio Mortimer looks like a lad who might come through .
There's a bit of a wind out there, favouring Monaghan in the 2nd half.
Not sure who decided that last Mayo point was a score, umpire hadn't a clue!
45 minutes played Monaghan still in control and leading 1-12 to 1-6.
Monaghan Mayo an enjoyable game.
Monaghan number 6 is a super player.
Looks like the standard in Connacht this year was poor.
Any idea who plays who in Semi Final? Would Derry and Monaghan (assuming they hold on) need separated?
Quote from: galwayman on June 10, 2023, 06:15:24 PM
Monaghan Mayo an enjoyable game.
Monaghan number 6 is a super player.
Looks like the standard in Connacht this year was poor.
Mayo and Galway not of the standard of the Ulster finalists anyway. What I've seen of Monaghan and Derry today and in the last few games it won't be a surprise if one of them go on to win this All Ireland.
Quote from: ClubScene13 on June 10, 2023, 06:15:52 PM
Any idea who plays who in Semi Final? Would Derry and Monaghan (assuming they hold on) need separated?
Dublin Derry and likely Kerry Monaghan on the 24th
Monaghan have never won the all Ireland at this grade (either)
They had one final appearance in 1939
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on June 10, 2023, 06:11:42 PM
Not sure who decided that last Mayo point was a score, umpire hadn't a clue!
Linesman I think, he was in line with the kick.
Last years two All Ireland finalist out at the Quarter final stage this year. Could we get Ulster All Ireland final this year? FT Monaghan 1-16 Mayo 1-8
Quote from: galwayman on June 10, 2023, 06:15:24 PM
Monaghan Mayo an enjoyable game.
Monaghan number 6 is a super player.
Looks like the standard in Connacht this year was poor.
Mallon (6) was the standout player. Think he got 3 points form play and god knows how many other scores he was involved in. He's one to watch
There has been some discussion of venues of late, but on what planet is Kilkenny a good neutral venue for Kerry v Kildare minors?
The minor game wasn't going to get a huge crowd, a good club ground actually somewhere in Tipperary would be sufficed. Perhaps the TV coverage wanted this venue?
Monaghan and Derry very impressive. Semi finals are Derry v Dublin and Monaghan v Kerry, wouldn't rule Ulster All Ireland final.
Quote from: armaghniac on June 10, 2023, 06:46:24 PM
There has been some discussion of venues of late, but on what planet is Kilkenny a good neutral venue for Kerry v Kildare minors?
The minor game wasn't going to get a huge crowd, a good club ground actually somewhere in Tipperary would be sufficed. Perhaps the TV coverage wanted this venue?
I saw somewhere that Kerry objected - can hardly blame them given the relative distances involved.
I'd say it had to be a TG4 request - having the 2 matches at the same venue would make life much easier for them.
Quote from: armaghniac on June 10, 2023, 06:46:24 PM
There has been some discussion of venues of late, but on what planet is Kilkenny a good neutral venue for Kerry v Kildare minors?
The minor game wasn't going to get a huge crowd, a good club ground actually somewhere in Tipperary would be sufficed. Perhaps the TV coverage wanted this venue?
It's K and K and K
Minor travelling fans wouldn't qualify for horde status. It's not as sensitive as with armagh seniors.
Great performance by Monaghan, some very promising players there. Looks like the standard in Ulster was pretty good this year.
Quote from: Schkite on June 10, 2023, 07:19:20 PM
Great performance by Monaghan, some very promising players there. Looks like the standard in Ulster was pretty good this year.
Tyrone had a good team also.
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Quote from: Schkite on June 10, 2023, 07:19:20 PM
Great performance by Monaghan, some very promising players there. Looks like the standard in Ulster was pretty good this year.
Tyrone had a good team also.
Yeah Tyrone were very unlucky to get knocked out by Monaghan in the Ulster semi final.
Tyrone probably had the strongest panel.
Quote from: armaghniac on June 10, 2023, 06:46:24 PM
There has been some discussion of venues of late, but on what planet is Kilkenny a good neutral venue for Kerry v Kildare minors?
The minor game wasn't going to get a huge crowd, a good club ground actually somewhere in Tipperary would be sufficed. Perhaps the TV coverage wanted this venue?
The fact that the Kildare seniors nominated Kilkenny as their home venue v Dublin certainly didn't help the optics either.
Interesting minor Championship. Derry and Monaghan are on similar levels and were way ahead of Connaught. So is Ulster extremely strong or is Connaught extremely weak?
Kerry and Dublin are probably on a par based on their performances v Kildare and Cork.
Kerry are improving game on game but will need a huge improvement to beat Monaghan.
I feel it'll be a Derry-Monaghan All-Ireland final
At minor level Derry, Monaghan and Tyrone have/had very little between them this year. Derry are the team with the best defence with McEldowney outstanding at CHB and Cahair Spiers also excellent. Sargent at midfield really drives them on too. For the most part with the exception of the ulster final Derry have given up so few scoring opportunities and they demoralise most opposing teams such is their meanness. The ulster minor final was a classic with the editor of the Gaelic Life tweeting that there was 27 goal scoring chances. Both team's goalies made incredible saves in the final, especially the Derry keeper who saved at least 3 chances that looked like certain goals. Only Monaghan have really tested Derry though I feel Tyrone would have been their match too. Tyrone were very well coached, had some very strong running half forwards like Donaghy and had ran up some huge tallies in the ulster championship. Monaghan are a very physical side (which is unusual for them at minor level) with a few outstanding forwards; McGinnity, Finn and Mallen. On Wikipedia it says McGinnity is currently top scorer across the 4 provinces and Finn is also in top 10 (though nearly all of the latters is from play) but Mallen is the player who makes them tick. McGinnity is the son of former 90's Monaghan player Stephen McGinnity who some of ye might remember. I fully expect Derry to beat Dublin. Monaghan / Kerry will be very close. Wouldn't be surprised at all if it's an all ulster final.
Fantastic finish by Dublin yesterday. With ten minutes to go they trailed by six points and looked dead and buried. But they dug so deep and turned a six point deficit into a three point win. Brilliant
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Fantastic finish by Dublin yesterday. With ten minutes to go they trailed by six points and looked dead and buried. But they dug so deep and turned a six point deficit into a three point win. Brilliant
The winning goal was a disaster for Cork but well finished by Dublin. The free to tie it was top class. The normal free taker (Cahill) had fluffed one from more or less the same spot just before and Mularkey just strolled over and took the ball off Cahill (who looked relieved:-)) Mularkey then nailed it. He made a huge impact when he came on.
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Quote from: armaghniac on June 10, 2023, 06:46:24 PM
There has been some discussion of venues of late, but on what planet is Kilkenny a good neutral venue for Kerry v Kildare minors?
The minor game wasn't going to get a huge crowd, a good club ground actually somewhere in Tipperary would be sufficed. Perhaps the TV coverage wanted this venue?
The fact that the Kildare seniors nominated Kilkenny as their home venue v Dublin certainly didn't help the optics either.
Interesting minor Championship. Derry and Monaghan are on similar levels and were way ahead of Connaught. So is Ulster extremely strong or is Connaught extremely weak?
Kerry and Dublin are probably on a par based on their performances v Kildare and Cork.
Kerry are improving game on game but will need a huge improvement to beat Monaghan.
I feel it'll be a Derry-Monaghan All-Ireland final
Connacht while clearly not as strong as last year would not be extremely weak. Was a big gap against the Ulster finalists yesterday in physical stakes and I've seen similar happen in the Hogan cup this year when Omagh CBS powered their way past some decent opposition. I think if Mayo and Galway was playing against Leinster or Munster finalists yesterday they would be more competitive games. I also I feel it'll be a Derry-Monaghan All-Ireland final.
Quote from: Sleater on June 11, 2023, 09:59:38 AM
At minor level Derry, Monaghan and Tyrone have/had very little between them this year. ......
Maybe now there is little between them but Derry trounced Monaghan earlier in the Ulster Championship group stage, 1-14 to 0-6.
Monaghan have made up a lot of ground and look to be still improving.
I´m gobsmacked by the technical standard and fitness of these kids. For instance, a monaghan lad coverted a 45 against a considerable wind with plenty to spare. Until Beggan came along I don't recall a Monaghan senior converting a 45 this century and that includes Paul Finlay / Conor McManus.
Derry are the team to beat I think, even against Kerry in a final. Monaghan took them to extra time and penalties but needed goals to do it. Dublin looked beat at the weekend, only for a dodgy decision or two; expect Derry to turn them over. Monaghan themselves are a credit, playing some serious football with a panel picked from fewer than 20 minor club teams. I hope they make the final.
Any dates times and venues for the semi finals yet???
This Saturday.
Kerry v Monaghan, O'Connor Park, 2.30pm, TG4
Sunday
Dublin v Derry, Athletic Grounds, 5.30pm, TG4
Seems very unfair on Kerry minors to play the Monaghan minors as part of a double header with the Monaghan seniors.
Didn't Croke Park take the minor finals away from before the senior final to protect them from having to play in front of a large crowd that are there for the senior game?
That should apply for other minor games also.
Quote from: blanketattack on June 22, 2023, 04:54:38 PM
Seems very unfair on Kerry minors to play the Monaghan minors as part of a double header with the Monaghan seniors.
Didn't Croke Park take the minor finals away from before the senior final to protect them from having to play in front of a large crowd that are there for the senior game?
That should apply for other minor games also.
How big of crowd is expected for Monaghan v Kildare senior game? not many Kildare supporters will watch the minor game I'd say. Be interesting to see what size of crowd will attend the AI final this year on July 8th in provincial venue. Last years final between Galway and Mayo had 13,000 at it in Hyde Park.
Quote from: blanketattack on June 22, 2023, 04:54:38 PM
Seems very unfair on Kerry minors to play the Monaghan minors as part of a double header with the Monaghan seniors.
Didn't Croke Park take the minor finals away from before the senior final to protect them from having to play in front of a large crowd that are there for the senior game?
That should apply for other minor games also.
Definitely. This is after dragging Kerry minors to Kilkenny for the Kildare game already. Very unfair.
Quote from: blanketattack on June 22, 2023, 04:54:38 PM
Seems very unfair on Kerry minors to play the Monaghan minors as part of a double header with the Monaghan seniors.
Didn't Croke Park take the minor finals away from before the senior final to protect them from having to play in front of a large crowd that are there for the senior game?
That should apply for other minor games also.
Not entirely fair, but Kerry got the benefit of this over the years, while Monaghan probably never did (although other Ulster supporters probably cheered for them).
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Quote from: blanketattack on June 22, 2023, 04:54:38 PM
Seems very unfair on Kerry minors to play the Monaghan minors as part of a double header with the Monaghan seniors.
Didn't Croke Park take the minor finals away from before the senior final to protect them from having to play in front of a large crowd that are there for the senior game?
That should apply for other minor games also.
Not entirely fair, but Kerry got the benefit of this over the years, while Monaghan probably never did (although other Ulster supporters probably cheered for them).
Not since minor was changed to 16 and 17 year olds
Mighty win for the Monaghan youngsters, though it was helter skelter for the last 10 minutes.
That's not the first own goal Monaghan have scored from the 45 line at the last kick of a half.
Great stuff by the young lads earlier, massive win. A fortunate goal was the difference but I think we were well worth the win overall. Some real quality in that team, we'll be seeing a few of them line out for the seniors in a few years.
Special word for Dermot Malone, only retired from the county team last year and now he's managed the minors to the AI final, fantastic start to a managerial career
When's the last time Monghan made an all-Ireland final? They had a couple of good minor teams which won Ulster/ Ulster finals but can't remember how far they got.
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on June 24, 2023, 06:52:46 PM
When's the last time Monghan made an all-Ireland final? They had a couple of good minor teams which won Ulster/ Ulster finals but can't remember how far they got.
At any level?
The ladies have been there.
For the men it was in the early 1930's after they beat Kildare in the sf. They were mauled by Kerry in the final, legend has it that there were 2 Monaghan men left standing at the end, both Ballybay men.
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on June 24, 2023, 06:52:46 PM
When's the last time Monghan made an all-Ireland final? They had a couple of good minor teams which won Ulster/ Ulster finals but can't remember how far they got.
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Last minor AI final was 1939
The sooner the minors are back on as a curtain raiser to the senior all Ireland the better! Loved getting in for the minor game on final day and it must have been some buzz for the young lads playing at HQ in front of a full house.
The David Clifford final is bound to have been the best ever minor performance??
Of course it is, but they need move minor back to 18. There seems to be abit of difference in sizes of minor players, Kerry I thought had a very big team.
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on June 24, 2023, 09:51:20 PM
Of course it is, but they need move minor back to 18. There seems to be abit of difference in sizes of minor players, Kerry I thought had a very big team.
I take it that these minors are not in their leaving cert year.
How could they manage 15 or so county games from February onward and yet have the leaving cert to prepare for as well?
Quote from: JimStynes on June 24, 2023, 09:47:42 PM
The sooner the minors are back on as a curtain raiser to the senior all Ireland the better! Loved getting in for the minor game on final day and it must have been some buzz for the young lads playing at HQ in front of a full house.
The David Clifford final is bound to have been the best ever minor performance??
I'd rather see tailtean cup final as the curtain raiser - there's no doubting that it's an unbelievable experience for the minors getting to play before an AIF, but who is more deserving, the likes of a John heslin after 12 years of toil or a David Clifford starting on his journey?
I'm all for minor games being played as curtain raiders, but no need for it to be before the final.
And I'd fully support the move back to 18, the leaving cert/a-level argument is nonsense, as I'm sure many on here dan attest to, there's plenty of time for both.
Disappointing result for Kerry. Horrible error by the keeper for the decisive goal and just before HT too. I did think Monaghan were marginally better on the day though having watched it back. Kerry will rue some of the wasted possessions and a few other errors. I thought the keeper lost his nerve a bit and just belted every kickout long for a finish but they are 16/17 so hard to blame them too much. Minor needs to go back to 18 as people have said here. GAA people up and down the country know it, just the few in the Ivory tower of Croke park won't acknowledge it.
I sorta see it just as another money racket, 20euro yesterday!.
geoblocked on the tg4 player in the north. Shite
Derry were straight through on goal there if that lad had passed to the extra player on the left.
Both teams making poor basic mistakes here, especially when shooting
Derry running into too many 2/3 men tackles, silly!. Dublin missed about 4 good chances. Derry normally wouldn't play as open as this.
Dublin No. 12 is killing us, need a change there.
The goals are living charmed lives here
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on June 25, 2023, 05:49:40 PM
Dublin No. 12 is killing us, need a change there.
He missed again.
He not miss much longer, been through 4 times, he should clocked about a goal 3, Can't leave the same man on him to half time.
If that's a card it's black not yellow.
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If that's a card it's black not yellow.
Would agree with that.
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If that's a card it's black not yellow.
Would agree with that.
Same. Was wondering if any rules are different than seniors? Maybe just 30 minute halves?
what happened there? just turned back on to see goalie sent off
Quote from: markl121 on June 25, 2023, 06:19:56 PM
what happened there? just turned back on to see goalie sent off
He boxed a Dublin lad in the back of the head on the way off it seemed!
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what happened there? just turned back on to see goalie sent off
Keeper clipped a boy coming off at half time. Would not have happened if the officials were doing their job.
Derry down to 14 then?
Aye they are.
Should have been a black card there too!!
Doesn't matter what the officials done, that was as stupid as you get, likely cost Derry the game. Instead of rushing in, why the Derry management not take the team to the side.
Dublin getting away with being very cynical.
Derry keeper was very silly.
Shocking decision for penalty. Ref ruining it.
Def foot block, surprised the ref got it. Derry need Higgins to stand up here, He's there most physical forward.
Quote from: Champion The Wonder Horse on June 25, 2023, 06:31:42 PM
Shocking decision for penalty. Ref ruining it.
That's the definition of a foot block a great spot by the ref!
Derry sorta woke up.
Why these blocking the runs yellow and not black, that's about the 3rd one.
Quote from: tbrick18 on June 25, 2023, 06:30:18 PM
Dublin getting away with being very cynical.
Derry keeper was very silly.
Keeper got a shoulder and push by two Dublin players as he was going down the tunnel, he stupidly reacted and threw a shitty punch at the next Dublin player. The Dublin no.7 (who was booked for a dirty body check earlier) then pushed the keeper into the linesman (who wasn't looking) and probably thought the keeper had them attacked him.
Usually stupid tunnel shenanigans.
How work that free, everyone the keeper tried to get the hand and toe to it, he was getting kicked.
All Ireland Ulster final.
Quote from: Gael85 on June 25, 2023, 06:43:49 PM
All Ireland Ulster final.
If it is, probably be back in Armagh?
Dublin would leave the odd fist in.
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on June 25, 2023, 06:46:20 PM
Dublin would leave the odd fist in.
Noticeable difference after them yellows.
McGuckin is ridiculously good for this age... the only time anyone has laid a glove on him has been to foul him!!
Very mature second half performance fair play them well deserved. Dublin did some amount of fouling probably 3/1 compared to Derry!
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Shocking decision for penalty. Ref ruining it.
Clear foot block lol
Stupid needless rule.
It's a rule because it's dangerous.
Can easily result in broken ankle for the kicker.
Brilliant second half from Doire. Mc Guckian took a lot of abuse. The ref was out of shape and out of his depth.
Well done to Derry. By far better team and raised their game after Dublin goal. Dublin lack of composure on goal chances in first 10 minutes proved costly.
Some fabulous players on that Derry team. Some of them try to ride one tackle too many rather than moving the ball on but Christ you'd never have known they were a man down with the running they did.
Quote from: screenexile on June 25, 2023, 06:51:42 PM
McGuckin is ridiculously good for this age... the only time anyone has laid a glove on him has been to foul him!!
Very mature second half performance fair play them well deserved. Dublin did some amount of fouling probably 3/1 compared to Derry!
He was brilliant.
Sargent too.
Hoalie will be sick at missing an all Ireland final for a moment t of silliness.
No. 6 is there best fballer, Fairly strong at Midfield too. That's about the 3 strong minor teams in a 4yr period. Derry need look at the U19 set up within the county. We seem drop off slightest when these lads move up. Had Murray, McAvoy been playing the U-20's this Yr we probably won that Ulster final.
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McGuckin is ridiculously good for this age... the only time anyone has laid a glove on him has been to foul him!!
Very mature second half performance fair play them well deserved. Dublin did some amount of fouling probably 3/1 compared to Derry!
He was brilliant.
Sargent too.
Hoalie will be sick at missing an all Ireland final for a moment t of silliness.
Sargent and mcguckian the pick of a v strong group for me. Glen be hard to work with with them 2 mcguckians buzzin round in couple years time
Sneaky Derry management, trying to sub the player that got red carded after he got red carded.
As if we needed another Dublin-Derry too many players on the pitch controversy.
Was Higgins injured the day, as Boyle started?
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Shocking decision for penalty. Ref ruining it.
Clear foot block lol
Stupid needless rule.
It's a rule because it's dangerous.
Can easily result in broken ankle for the kicker.
Or so the urban myth goes.
The incident in that game was not in any way dangerous. A foot block where a player uses his foot to block a ball that has clearly left the opponent's foot is no more dangerous than a block using hands, arms, chest whatever. I've played and watched a lot of football in my time and I can only recall ever seeing an actual dangerous 'foot block' once, but I've heard many's a roar from spectators for one!
It's like square ball, unpoliceable, so just get rid of it.
The action it attempts to stamp out could be covered by other types of dangerous play - no need for the specific naming of a part of the body.
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Sneaky Derry management, trying to sub the player that got red carded after he got red carded.
As if we needed another Dublin-Derry too many players on the pitch controversy.
It was a bit but I did laugh.
Technically if he was subbed off already and got the red, should we have been down to 14?
Perhaps grounds for appeal?
I trust the Dublin No 7 will receive due sanctions for his stamp on the Derry goalkeeper in the second half - he had already been booked. Very clear on TG4 coverage.
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Shocking decision for penalty. Ref ruining it.
Clear foot block lol
Stupid needless rule.
It's a rule because it's dangerous.
Can easily result in broken ankle for the kicker.
Or so the urban myth goes.
The incident in that game was not in any way dangerous. A foot block where a player uses his foot to block a ball that has clearly left the opponent's foot is no more dangerous than a block using hands, arms, chest whatever. I've played and watched a lot of football in my time and I can only recall ever seeing an actual dangerous 'foot block' once, but I've heard many's a roar from spectators for one!
It's like square ball, unpoliceable, so just get rid of it.
The action it attempts to stamp out could be covered by other types of dangerous play - no need for the specific naming of a part of the body.
Have you spoken to many physios about the injury a foot block causes?
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Shocking decision for penalty. Ref ruining it.
Clear foot block lol
Stupid needless rule.
It's a rule because it's dangerous.
Can easily result in broken ankle for the kicker.
Or so the urban myth goes.
The incident in that game was not in any way dangerous. A foot block where a player uses his foot to block a ball that has clearly left the opponent's foot is no more dangerous than a block using hands, arms, chest whatever. I've played and watched a lot of football in my time and I can only recall ever seeing an actual dangerous 'foot block' once, but I've heard many's a roar from spectators for one!
It's like square ball, unpoliceable, so just get rid of it.
The action it attempts to stamp out could be covered by other types of dangerous play - no need for the specific naming of a part of the body.
Is that tackle ok then during play on any part of the pitch by any player?
So basically you're saying throwing your feet to block the ball is fine
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Sneaky Derry management, trying to sub the player that got red carded after he got red carded.
As if we needed another Dublin-Derry too many players on the pitch controversy.
It was a bit but I did laugh.
Technically if he was subbed off already and got the red, should we have been down to 14?
Perhaps grounds for appeal?
Crafty move! But Derry were superb after Dublin equalised
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Sneaky Derry management, trying to sub the player that got red carded after he got red carded.
As if we needed another Dublin-Derry too many players on the pitch controversy.
It was a bit but I did laugh.
Technically if he was subbed off already and got the red, should we have been down to 14?
Perhaps grounds for appeal?
Crafty move! But Derry were superb after Dublin equalised
Derry were outstanding. Hopefully those who hit the Derry goalkeeper (isolated as a Derry player on 7 Dub subs) will also now face sanctions. We will wait and see.
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Shocking decision for penalty. Ref ruining it.
Clear foot block lol
Stupid needless rule.
It's a rule because it's dangerous.
Can easily result in broken ankle for the kicker.
Or so the urban myth goes.
The incident in that game was not in any way dangerous. A foot block where a player uses his foot to block a ball that has clearly left the opponent's foot is no more dangerous than a block using hands, arms, chest whatever. I've played and watched a lot of football in my time and I can only recall ever seeing an actual dangerous 'foot block' once, but I've heard many's a roar from spectators for one!
It's like square ball, unpoliceable, so just get rid of it.
The action it attempts to stamp out could be covered by other types of dangerous play - no need for the specific naming of a part of the body.
Is that tackle ok then during play on any part of the pitch by any player?
So basically you're saying throwing your feet to block the ball is fine
The foot block is used in every soccer match, In all my years watching I don't remember one injury to the kicker.
It's a needless rule backed up by an urban myth.
No comparison with the foul play should an opposing player kick out the ball when it is about to be picked up.
I only saw the 2nd half, Derry were not just impressive but totally imperious.
I'm happy enough that they won, so now we can finally have the replay of the drawn game ;)
I take it the goalie is out of the final? that's a tough one to take.
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on June 25, 2023, 07:02:34 PM
No. 6 is there best fballer, Fairly strong at Midfield too. That's about the 3 strong minor teams in a 4yr period. Derry need look at the U19 set up within the county. We seem drop off slightest when these lads move up. Had Murray, McAvoy been playing the U-20's this Yr we probably won that Ulster final.
Who's fault is that?
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Shocking decision for penalty. Ref ruining it.
Clear foot block lol
Stupid needless rule.
It's a rule because it's dangerous.
Can easily result in broken ankle for the kicker.
Or so the urban myth goes.
The incident in that game was not in any way dangerous. A foot block where a player uses his foot to block a ball that has clearly left the opponent's foot is no more dangerous than a block using hands, arms, chest whatever. I've played and watched a lot of football in my time and I can only recall ever seeing an actual dangerous 'foot block' once, but I've heard many's a roar from spectators for one!
It's like square ball, unpoliceable, so just get rid of it.
The action it attempts to stamp out could be covered by other types of dangerous play - no need for the specific naming of a part of the body.
Is that tackle ok then during play on any part of the pitch by any player?
So basically you're saying throwing your feet to block the ball is fine
The foot block is used in every soccer match, In all my years watching I don't remember one injury to the kicker.
It's a needless rule backed up by an urban myth.
No comparison with the foul play should an opposing player kick out the ball when it is about to be picked up.
Keep watching soccer then and if you still don't remember maybe make a doctor's appointment?
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Shocking decision for penalty. Ref ruining it.
Clear foot block lol
Stupid needless rule.
It's a rule because it's dangerous.
Can easily result in broken ankle for the kicker.
Or so the urban myth goes.
The incident in that game was not in any way dangerous. A foot block where a player uses his foot to block a ball that has clearly left the opponent's foot is no more dangerous than a block using hands, arms, chest whatever. I've played and watched a lot of football in my time and I can only recall ever seeing an actual dangerous 'foot block' once, but I've heard many's a roar from spectators for one!
It's like square ball, unpoliceable, so just get rid of it.
The action it attempts to stamp out could be covered by other types of dangerous play - no need for the specific naming of a part of the body.
Is that tackle ok then during play on any part of the pitch by any player?
So basically you're saying throwing your feet to block the ball is fine
The foot block is used in every soccer match, In all my years watching I don't remember one injury to the kicker.
It's a needless rule backed up by an urban myth.
No comparison with the foul play should an opposing player kick out the ball when it is about to be picked up.
But it's a rule and everyone knows that they run the risk of a ref applying the rules, ref's are dammed if they don't implement the rules and (as above) dammed if they do!
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All Ireland Ulster final.
If it is, probably be back in Armagh?
I would say so.
Is this the first all ulster All Ireland minor final ?
I WOild imagine it will be in Armagh , as last years between Galway and Mayo was in Roscommon.
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All Ireland Ulster final.
If it is, probably be back in Armagh?
I would say so.
Is this the first all ulster All Ireland minor final ?
I WOild imagine it will be in Armagh , as last years between Galway and Mayo was in Roscommon.
Yes, had all Connacht final last year, All Munster final Tipp v Kerry in 2015 and All Leinster final in between Dublin v Meath and Laois.
Well if its not good for them to play before a big crowd in seniors, playing before a big crowd in Croker not help.
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Shocking decision for penalty. Ref ruining it.
Clear foot block lol
Stupid needless rule.
It's a rule because it's dangerous.
Can easily result in broken ankle for the kicker.
Or so the urban myth goes.
The incident in that game was not in any way dangerous. A foot block where a player uses his foot to block a ball that has clearly left the opponent's foot is no more dangerous than a block using hands, arms, chest whatever. I've played and watched a lot of football in my time and I can only recall ever seeing an actual dangerous 'foot block' once, but I've heard many's a roar from spectators for one!
It's like square ball, unpoliceable, so just get rid of it.
The action it attempts to stamp out could be covered by other types of dangerous play - no need for the specific naming of a part of the body.
Is that tackle ok then during play on any part of the pitch by any player?
So basically you're saying throwing your feet to block the ball is fine
The foot block is used in every soccer match, In all my years watching I don't remember one injury to the kicker.
It's a needless rule backed up by an urban myth.
No comparison with the foul play should an opposing player kick out the ball when it is about to be picked up.
But it's a rule and everyone knows that they run the risk of a ref applying the rules, ref's are dammed if they don't implement the rules and (as above) dammed if they do!
That's the point. You might not like the rule but it is a rule and its up to the ref to enforce it. I don't like the pick up rule. I think its adds nothing to the game and I'd like if the men followed the women and scrapped it. However until they do I'll have to put up with it.
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Shocking decision for penalty. Ref ruining it.
Clear foot block lol
Stupid needless rule.
It's a rule because it's dangerous.
Can easily result in broken ankle for the kicker.
Or so the urban myth goes.
The incident in that game was not in any way dangerous. A foot block where a player uses his foot to block a ball that has clearly left the opponent's foot is no more dangerous than a block using hands, arms, chest whatever. I've played and watched a lot of football in my time and I can only recall ever seeing an actual dangerous 'foot block' once, but I've heard many's a roar from spectators for one!
It's like square ball, unpoliceable, so just get rid of it.
The action it attempts to stamp out could be covered by other types of dangerous play - no need for the specific naming of a part of the body.
Is that tackle ok then during play on any part of the pitch by any player?
So basically you're saying throwing your feet to block the ball is fine
The foot block is used in every soccer match, In all my years watching I don't remember one injury to the kicker.
It's a needless rule backed up by an urban myth.
No comparison with the foul play should an opposing player kick out the ball when it is about to be picked up.
But it's a rule and everyone knows that they run the risk of a ref applying the rules, ref's are dammed if they don't implement the rules and (as above) dammed if they do!
That's the point. You might not like the rule but it is a rule and its up to the ref to enforce it. I don't like the pick up rule. I think its adds nothing to the game and I'd like if the men followed the women and scrapped it. However until they do I'll have to put up with it.
Are ye for real ?
The day the pick up rule goes, as per the women, im finished
Nothing against the woman's game but there's nothing as amuetirish looking as that
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Shocking decision for penalty. Ref ruining it.
Clear foot block lol
Stupid needless rule.
It's a rule because it's dangerous.
Can easily result in broken ankle for the kicker.
Or so the urban myth goes.
The incident in that game was not in any way dangerous. A foot block where a player uses his foot to block a ball that has clearly left the opponent's foot is no more dangerous than a block using hands, arms, chest whatever. I've played and watched a lot of football in my time and I can only recall ever seeing an actual dangerous 'foot block' once, but I've heard many's a roar from spectators for one!
It's like square ball, unpoliceable, so just get rid of it.
The action it attempts to stamp out could be covered by other types of dangerous play - no need for the specific naming of a part of the body.
Is that tackle ok then during play on any part of the pitch by any player?
So basically you're saying throwing your feet to block the ball is fine
The foot block is used in every soccer match, In all my years watching I don't remember one injury to the kicker.
It's a needless rule backed up by an urban myth.
No comparison with the foul play should an opposing player kick out the ball when it is about to be picked up.
But it's a rule and everyone knows that they run the risk of a ref applying the rules, ref's are dammed if they don't implement the rules and (as above) dammed if they do!
Absolutely, the ref was 100% correct to apply the law. My gripe is with the rule not the ref.
You'd be happy then if players all over the pitch decided to throw their feet towards the ball in GAA cause you see it in soccer and feel it's ok?
The same soccer that players when they get tickled in the ear throw themselves down and roll about?
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You'd be happy then if players all over the pitch decided to throw their feet towards the ball in GAA cause you see it in soccer and feel it's ok?
The same soccer that players when they get tickled in the ear throw themselves down and roll about?
Strawmanning? :) Stick to reffing, to debate rationally is not your thing. You obviously have not seen John Giles tackling like a combine harvester.
What does the rule actually state regarding the foot block?
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Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 25, 2023, 10:25:51 PM
You'd be happy then if players all over the pitch decided to throw their feet towards the ball in GAA cause you see it in soccer and feel it's ok?
The same soccer that players when they get tickled in the ear throw themselves down and roll about?
Strawmanning? :) Stick to reffing, to debate rationally is not your thing. You obviously have not seen John Giles tackling like a combine harvester.
You brought soccer into it. Stick to the subject
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Shocking decision for penalty. Ref ruining it.
Clear foot block lol
Stupid needless rule.
It's a rule because it's dangerous.
Can easily result in broken ankle for the kicker.
Or so the urban myth goes.
The incident in that game was not in any way dangerous. A foot block where a player uses his foot to block a ball that has clearly left the opponent's foot is no more dangerous than a block using hands, arms, chest whatever. I've played and watched a lot of football in my time and I can only recall ever seeing an actual dangerous 'foot block' once, but I've heard many's a roar from spectators for one!
It's like square ball, unpoliceable, so just get rid of it.
The action it attempts to stamp out could be covered by other types of dangerous play - no need for the specific naming of a part of the body.
Is that tackle ok then during play on any part of the pitch by any player?
So basically you're saying throwing your feet to block the ball is fine
The foot block is used in every soccer match, In all my years watching I don't remember one injury to the kicker.
It's a needless rule backed up by an urban myth.
No comparison with the foul play should an opposing player kick out the ball when it is about to be picked up.
But it's a rule and everyone knows that they run the risk of a ref applying the rules, ref's are dammed if they don't implement the rules and (as above) dammed if they do!
That's the point. You might not like the rule but it is a rule and its up to the ref to enforce it. I don't like the pick up rule. I think its adds nothing to the game and I'd like if the men followed the women and scrapped it. However until they do I'll have to put up with it.
Are ye for real ?
The day the pick up rule goes, as per the women, im finished
Nothing against the woman's game but there's nothing as amuetirish looking as that
OK - we'll agree to differ on that but the point is that its a rule and even though we mighn't like it, its still a rule and its the refs job to enforce the rules
It's an easy one to enforce... there was a few 'throw' balls today, seems the bogballers are copying the hurlers
The main thing is that the Dublin No 7 is sanctioned for his deliberate stamp on a Derry player.
That second half was a good a performance as as team could want. It was brilliant from the lads.
Final confirmed for 9th July at 1pm in armagh
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Incredible scoring from young mcginnity - is he Stephen's son?
Monaghan scores very concentrated versus a big spread of scorers from Derry.
The two of them seem to be well ahead of the rest (tyrone aside) - you'd really have to question the need for penalties at this level - why the need to rush this to a finish this weekend?
Hope it's a good game and you wouldn't begrudge Monaghan an all Ireland win if it comes to that!!
Big difference in the scores conceded. Derry by 5 for me.
Wonder what sort of a crowd to expect for this. Many of yous going?
How will the crowds be affected by the seniors games also?
Be an expensive weekend for many
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How will the crowds be affected by the seniors games also?
Be an expensive weekend for many
Not as far a drive but still 20 euro a head for the minors
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How will the crowds be affected by the seniors games also?
Be an expensive weekend for many
Not as far a drive but still 20 euro a head for the minors
Fuel, food and so on..still, these days don't last forever
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How will the crowds be affected by the seniors games also?
Be an expensive weekend for many
Not as far a drive but still 20 euro a head for the minors
Fuel, food and so on..still, these days don't last forever
Indeed, even my ma is going to croker next week, she hasn't been since the 98 semi final.
Yip going to the minors.
Will Higgins play?
Novel All Ulster All Ireland pairing should be producing a decent crowd in attendance. Sunday afternoon should be suitable for most. Last year the All Ireland final between Galway and Mayo was played on Friday evening yet near 13,000 turned up for that final.
Not easy to beat the same team 3 times in one campaign as Mayo found out last year.
Having a team last year beat 3 times and still fit to contest a all-Ireland in my opinion is wrong, Mayo lost one game all year.
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Haven't a team beat 3 times and still fit to contest a all-Ireland in my opinion is wrong, Mayo lost one game all year.
Monaghan have only been beaten twice haven't they? And one was penalties. Mayo had a chance to beat Monaghan and we're beaten very handy Monaghan we'll deserve to be in this AIF!
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Haven't a team beat 3 times and still fit to contest a all-Ireland in my opinion is wrong, Mayo lost one game all year.
Monaghan have only been beaten twice haven't they? And one was penalties. Mayo had a chance to beat Monaghan and we're beaten very handy Monaghan we'll deserve to be in this AIF!
Two defeats for Monaghan both to Derry this yer.
Galway lost three times last year (twice to Mayo,and a defeat to Leitrim) yet went on to win the All Ireland beating Mayo in the final which was Mayo's only defeat all year.
Where in or around Croke Park will be showinv this minor final?
Anybody know?
Good luck to Derry players and management in today's final. They have the individual quality and teamwork on the field to win this.
Bru House in Fairview showed last years semi final if over that direction form Croke Park.
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Where in or around Croke Park will be showinv this minor final?
Anybody know?
the auld triangle had minor games on last year
Good luck to my cousins in Monaghan the McEnaneneys. Go, Monaghan bring Sam home.
Derry for Tom and Sam
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 08, 2023, 05:29:04 PM
How will the crowds be affected by the seniors games also?
Be an expensive weekend for many
Was in town there earlier and Monaghan are there in big numbers. The gates to the CBS car park weren't open so gridlock was starting.
Tg4 won't let me stream the game to the TV"due to rights restrictions" and don't have good enough antenna signal, I can't work out what causes this sometimes the rte player doesn't let me either but sometimes they do, what is the issue
Quote from: Brendan on July 09, 2023, 12:55:34 PM
Tg4 won't let me stream the game to the TV"due to rights restrictions" and don't have good enough antenna signal, I can't work out what causes this sometimes the rte player doesn't let me either but sometimes they do, what is the issue
Where are you based? Time to get a dodgy stick lad
Quote from: Brendan on July 09, 2023, 12:55:34 PM
Tg4 won't let me stream the game to the TV"due to rights restrictions" and don't have good enough antenna signal, I can't work out what causes this sometimes the rte player doesn't let me either but sometimes they do, what is the issue
The problem is your Internet service provider not recording your location properly.
TG4 will work in Ireland, try a mobile device or a tablet with a GPS in it.
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Quote from: Brendan on July 09, 2023, 12:55:34 PM
Tg4 won't let me stream the game to the TV"due to rights restrictions" and don't have good enough antenna signal, I can't work out what causes this sometimes the rte player doesn't let me either but sometimes they do, what is the issue
The problem is your Internet service provider not recording your location properly.
TG4 will work in Ireland, try a mobile device or a tablet with a GPS in it.
I cast to a chromecast from my phone, like I say there is days it works using the exact same devices, by the time throw in comes you don't know if it'll work on the day or not
Edit- In the 6 counties btw
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Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 08, 2023, 05:29:04 PM
How will the crowds be affected by the seniors games also?
Be an expensive weekend for many
Was in town there earlier and Monaghan are there in big numbers. The gates to the CBS car park weren't open so gridlock was starting.
Serious crowd, I presume the shed is pretty full also Those big GAA yokes are actually taking up useful space, are they to stop people jeering at penalties?
Looks like a near capacity crowd in Athletic Grounds. Why the need for those big GAA banners behind the goal taking up space where supporters should be standing?
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Looks like a near capacity crowd in Athletic Grounds. Why the need for those big GAA banners behind the goal taking up space where supporters should be standing?
In this electronic age they already knew the crowd size yesterday for the most part, they should have removed them, they might be appropriate in a half empty ground but not in an almost full one.
Half time Derry 0-8 Monaghan 0-6. Deserved half time lead for Derry, scores coming easier for them.
Completely deserved to go.. dirty action from Derry 5
I know that fella is young but that was a deserved red card. What was he at.
Harsh!!
Would need to see it again but looked harsh!
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Harsh!!
Not harsh at all.
Derry remain more efficient in the final score though.
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Harsh!!
Get away with that, knew what he was at.
Is somebody really stupid enough to do that on purpose in an AIF?
45 mins played 14 man Derry 0-11 Monaghan 0-7
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Harsh!!
Get away with that, knew what he was at.
Is somebody really stupid enough to do that on purpose in an AIF?
Yes, no question, absolutely stupid and well earned red card.
Goal for Derry. 1-11 to 0-7
Monaghans easy concession of kickout to Derry has killed them .. Monaghan no presence around the middle
Monaghan shooting and shot selection against the wind is atrocious.
This is going more like the group stage game than the Ulster final for Monaghan. Sending off could have been a lifeline however it's made Derry more focused and clinical.
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Harsh!!
Not harsh at all.
Derry remain more efficient in the final score though.
Harsh in that it would often be let go, but deserved, no need or place for that sort of shite
Wouldn't fancy marking that wee boy mcguckian. Never stops.
Ref doing his best to spoil this game, put your bloody hand down ffs, blowing frees every 15secs.
Serious performance from the Derry lads... very well deserved!
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Quote from: screenexile on July 09, 2023, 02:00:11 PM
Harsh!!
Not harsh at all.
Derry remain more efficient in the final score though.
Watched it back again while I don't think there was intent it was definitely dangerous and the right call. Thankfully it didn't impact the result as Derry are by far the better team here.
Yes Derry v good though look very average .. no fwd line
Full time Derry 1-13 Monaghan 0-9. Congratulations to Derry their 2nd U17 All-Ireland title in the last few years.
As for Monaghan didn't take advantage of the extra man for the last 20 minutes. Shooting and shot selection poor just 9 scores from 24 shots.
Quote from: Onthe40 on July 09, 2023, 02:20:24 PM
Yes Derry v good though look very average .. no fwd line
Lol yes very average beating all the best teams about!
Derry great wee team. Sending off galvanised them. Two minors in four years some going. Hopefully the young fella learns from that because you can't be doing that.
Hard luck to Monaghan. I think the occasion got to them a bit too.
Attendance of 13,754 in the Athletic Grounds this afternoon.
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Yes Derry v good though look very average .. no fwd line
Lol yes very average beating all the best teams about!
He might want to go and look at the scores they've been racking up in the year to date rather than judge them on one match against the clear second best team.
Well done Derry. Best team won and by beating monaghan 3 times in one season shows their superiority. But well done to dermot malone and his monaghan team. Brought us to a place where we've never been before in most of our lifetime Great season. Very proud of everyone involved
Quote from: 5times5times on July 09, 2023, 02:15:09 PM
Ref doing his best to spoil this game, put your bloody hand down ffs, blowing frees every 15secs.
Sure, blame the ref......
Superb Derry team; hope they progress to senior level. It's inevitable that life will take most of them away, so important to enjoy the achievement for it's own sake
There always seems to be a Higgins from magherafelt on these minor teams. Must be quite a few of them.
Pretty much Derry were in control all of the game, they were well structured and imposing and disappointingly Monaghan did not measure up to that standard on the day as they did v Mayo.
The ref was poor I doubt he can or could hack it at senior level, about the only real decision he got right was the stonewall red card, but no kudos seeing as it was so obvious. Why can't one of the top senior refs be appointed to ref an AI final? instead we got a minor ref.
Quote from: befair on July 09, 2023, 02:37:31 PM
Superb Derry team; hope they progress to senior level. It's inevitable that life will take most of them away, so important to enjoy the achievement for it's own sake
Completely agree with that - there's a lot of talk about this grade being developmental etc, but logically, for a lot of these guys this is the pinnacle of their football careers, something they'll always remember and a great achievement in its own right.
That's another reason why I don't follow the logic of not playing these games as a curtain raiser to all Ireland final or semi, this is the only chance the majority of players on display today will ever have of playing in croker park before a big crowd. I've yet to come across anyone who supports the route we've gone with that, do how come in a democratic organisation, it remains? Do I just talk to the wrong people??
Quote from: Main Street on July 09, 2023, 02:45:13 PM
Pretty much Derry were in control all of the game, they were well structured and imposing and disappointingly Monaghan did not measure up to that standard on the day as they did v Mayo.
The ref was poor I doubt he can or could hack it at senior level, about the only real decision he got right was the stonewall red card, but no kudos seeing as it was so obvious. Why can't one of the top senior refs be appointed to ref an AI final? instead we got a minor ref.
A rare opportunity for a Monaghan all Ireland.
At least the women won those football titles .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YokX0SGd1pI
A beautiful style of football a very log way from the current mens orthodoxy in Ulster.
They were different because they believed they could win.
Derry were just at a level higher than monaghan
Some fantastic wee footballers and very well drilled.
No panic after the sending off, in fact they all stepped up.
By far the better side.
Ref was erratic I would say, some very strange calls then let some obvious fouls go on both sides.
Future looks good for Derry football.
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Quote from: befair on July 09, 2023, 02:37:31 PM
Superb Derry team; hope they progress to senior level. It's inevitable that life will take most of them away, so important to enjoy the achievement for it's own sake
Completely agree with that - there's a lot of talk about this grade being developmental etc, but logically, for a lot of these guys this is the pinnacle of their football careers, something they'll always remember and a great achievement in its own right.
That's another reason why I don't follow the logic of not playing these games as a curtain raiser to all Ireland final or semi, this is the only chance the majority of players on display today will ever have of playing in croker park before a big crowd. I've yet to come across anyone who supports the route we've gone with that, do how come in a democratic organisation, it remains? Do I just talk to the wrong people??
I'd suspect you do alright.
Most people have no problems with Minor Finals in a Provincial ground.
At least 10,000 of those there today wouldn't get to see the game if it was on with the Senior Final.
Did I hear the RnaG commentator right saying it's the first time an AI football final was played in thec6 Cos?
Quote from: seafoid on July 09, 2023, 03:11:11 PM
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Pretty much Derry were in control all of the game, they were well structured and imposing and disappointingly Monaghan did not measure up to that standard on the day as they did v Mayo.
The ref was poor I doubt he can or could hack it at senior level, about the only real decision he got right was the stonewall red card, but no kudos seeing as it was so obvious. Why can't one of the top senior refs be appointed to ref an AI final? instead we got a minor ref.
A rare opportunity for a Monaghan all Ireland.
At least the women won those football titles .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YokX0SGd1pI
A beautiful style of football a very log way from the current mens orthodoxy in Ulster.
They were different because they believed they could win.
I take it you don't watch Galway or Roscommon at all then?
Quote from: onefineday on July 09, 2023, 02:30:41 PM
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Quote from: Onthe40 on July 09, 2023, 02:20:24 PM
Yes Derry v good though look very average .. no fwd line
Lol yes very average beating all the best teams about!
He might want to go and look at the scores they've been racking up in the year to date rather than judge them on one match against the clear second best team.
0-12 of Derry's 1-13 score came from their forward line today and Ger Dillon 0-32,Conall Higgins 2-22,Eamon Young 3-15, John Boyle 0-21 and Oisin Doherty 1-12 was the scoring from their forwards in this Minor championship. No forward line??
Has mcguckian not scored? He's near the best of the lot?
Quote from: Captain Obvious on July 09, 2023, 06:04:05 PM
Quote from: onefineday on July 09, 2023, 02:30:41 PM
Quote from: screenexile on July 09, 2023, 02:22:42 PM
Quote from: Onthe40 on July 09, 2023, 02:20:24 PM
Yes Derry v good though look very average .. no fwd line
Lol yes very average beating all the best teams about!
He might want to go and look at the scores they've been racking up in the year to date rather than judge them on one match against the clear second best team.
0-12 of Derry's 1-13 score came from their forward line today and Ger Dillon 0-32,Conall Higgins 2-22,Eamon Young 3-15, John Boyle 0-21 and Oisin Doherty 1-12 was the scoring from their forwards in this Minor championship. No forward line??
Did he mean Monaghan has no forward line?
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 09, 2023, 06:09:18 PM
Has mcguckian not scored? He's near the best of the lot?
Didn't score today, 3-5 he scored in this championship.
Congratulations to Derry
Best team to come out of Derry since their 1989 Team. Derry now had 4 fairly strong minor teams over the past 4yrs.
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on July 09, 2023, 08:02:31 PM
Best team to come out of Derry since their 1989 Team. Derry now had 4 fairly strong minor teams over the past 4yrs.
Yeah signs are good. Say on average 3 out of each team make the step up to senior County level, we should have plenty of talent coming through.
Brilliant win today.
Quote from: Rossfan on July 09, 2023, 03:41:49 PM
Quote from: onefineday on July 09, 2023, 02:48:57 PM
Quote from: befair on July 09, 2023, 02:37:31 PM
Superb Derry team; hope they progress to senior level. It's inevitable that life will take most of them away, so important to enjoy the achievement for it's own sake
Completely agree with that - there's a lot of talk about this grade being developmental etc, but logically, for a lot of these guys this is the pinnacle of their football careers, something they'll always remember and a great achievement in its own right.
That's another reason why I don't follow the logic of not playing these games as a curtain raiser to all Ireland final or semi, this is the only chance the majority of players on display today will ever have of playing in croker park before a big crowd. I've yet to come across anyone who supports the route we've gone with that, do how come in a democratic organisation, it remains? Do I just talk to the wrong people??
I'd suspect you do alright.
Most people have no problems with Minor Finals in a Provincial ground.
At least 10,000 of those there today wouldn't get to see the game if it was on with the Senior Final.
Did I hear the RnaG commentator right saying it's the first time an AI football final was played in thec6 Cos?
Might try and set up a poll cos you're the first person I've come across who is in favour.
Quote from: NotedObserver on July 09, 2023, 06:12:59 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on July 09, 2023, 06:04:05 PM
Quote from: onefineday on July 09, 2023, 02:30:41 PM
Quote from: screenexile on July 09, 2023, 02:22:42 PM
Quote from: Onthe40 on July 09, 2023, 02:20:24 PM
Yes Derry v good though look very average .. no fwd line
Lol yes very average beating all the best teams about!
He might want to go and look at the scores they've been racking up in the year to date rather than judge them on one match against the clear second best team.
0-12 of Derry's 1-13 score came from their forward line today and Ger Dillon 0-32,Conall Higgins 2-22,Eamon Young 3-15, John Boyle 0-21 and Oisin Doherty 1-12 was the scoring from their forwards in this Minor championship. No forward line??
Did he mean Monaghan has no forward line?
probably, looks like a typo in rereading it, left out the word Monaghan.
Didn't know the half bck Campbell was former Donegal player Paddy Campbell lad.
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on July 09, 2023, 08:02:31 PM
Best team to come out of Derry since their 1989 Team. Derry now had 4 fairly strong minor teams over the past 4yrs.
3 outta that team started in 93 final, with Burnsy on the bench.
I think !
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on July 10, 2023, 08:21:58 AM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on July 09, 2023, 08:02:31 PM
Best team to come out of Derry since their 1989 Team. Derry now had 4 fairly strong minor teams over the past 4yrs.
3 outta that team started in 93 final, with Burnsy on the bench.
I think !
Think Declan Bateson was in the panel that year too hoof
Too many of that team didn't come through who were good enough for the County, John Mulholland should been starting Midfield after McGilligan went, Rory McEldowney went off to soccer, and Eunan O'Kane got injured. Skelly probably if he been at a senior club made it to.
Quote from: Newbridge Exile on July 10, 2023, 08:45:10 AM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on July 10, 2023, 08:21:58 AM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on July 09, 2023, 08:02:31 PM
Best team to come out of Derry since their 1989 Team. Derry now had 4 fairly strong minor teams over the past 4yrs.
3 outta that team started in 93 final, with Burnsy on the bench.
I think !
Think Declan Bateson was in the panel that year too hoof
Coleman, Tohill and Heaney started
Burns came on as a sub
Diamond and Bateson were on the bench.
Quote from: Estimator on July 10, 2023, 09:08:13 AM
Quote from: Newbridge Exile on July 10, 2023, 08:45:10 AM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on July 10, 2023, 08:21:58 AM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on July 09, 2023, 08:02:31 PM
Best team to come out of Derry since their 1989 Team. Derry now had 4 fairly strong minor teams over the past 4yrs.
3 outta that team started in 93 final, with Burnsy on the bench.
I think !
Think Declan Bateson was in the panel that year too hoof
Coleman, Tohill and Heaney started
Burns came on as a sub
Diamond and Bateson were on the bench.
How did that team get on in U21's? Think that age group is more important than minor.
Tyrone beat them by a point in either Maghera or Lavey( they were coming of 2 All-Ireland finals, can't remember if they won it that year) , was at it but so long ago, I can't remember, should won the game though, I think a bad goal was give aeay.
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on July 10, 2023, 09:14:46 AM
Tyrone beat them by a point in either Maghera or Lavey( they were coming of 2 All-Ireland finals, can't remember if they won it that year) , was at it but so long ago, I can't remember, should won the game though, I think a bad goal was give aeay.
Definitely Maghera. I genuinely don't think that under-21 was a priority for Derry back then.
Quote from: Estimator on July 10, 2023, 09:08:13 AM
Quote from: Newbridge Exile on July 10, 2023, 08:45:10 AM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on July 10, 2023, 08:21:58 AM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on July 09, 2023, 08:02:31 PM
Best team to come out of Derry since their 1989 Team. Derry now had 4 fairly strong minor teams over the past 4yrs.
3 outta that team started in 93 final, with Burnsy on the bench.
I think !
Think Declan Bateson was in the panel that year too hoof
Coleman, Tohill and Heaney started
Burns came on as a sub
Diamond and Bateson were on the bench.
forgot about him !! how bad is that ;D
Won U21 Ulster in '93. Beat Down in the final, at the Athletic Grounds.
Some of the '89 minors were still available. The likes of Burns, Diamond etc played on that team.
Beat by Meath in the semi final in Castleblaney. Geraghty was whb for Meath that day.. I think
Quote from: Estimator on July 10, 2023, 09:30:30 AM
Won U21 Ulster in '93. Beat Down in the final, at the Athletic Grounds.
Some of the '89 minors were still available. The likes of Burns, Diamond etc played on that team.
Beat by Meath in the semi final in Castleblaney. Geraghty was whb for Meath that day.. I think
Gary Coleman, would have been still been under 21 in 93 & Dermot Dougan also played that day ( Dougie &Karl Diamond were on the bench in 1989 but were still under 16 )
few anoraks on here and i mean that as a compliment 😃
Id be of similar vintage but wouldnt have half the memory of some you guys
89 team was some team
Quote from: tbrick18 on July 09, 2023, 08:18:37 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on July 09, 2023, 08:02:31 PM
Best team to come out of Derry since their 1989 Team. Derry now had 4 fairly strong minor teams over the past 4yrs.
Yeah signs are good. Say on average 3 out of each team make the step up to senior County level, we should have plenty of talent coming through.
Brilliant win today.
They're only U17s, so it'll be 4-6 years before they come through. Big step up.
Be interesting to see how this panel progresses with club and county over the next 10 years. Good for a case study in regards to underage development to senior football.
Will many come through?
Will more of this age group come through, who were not on this wider panel?
Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think Derry played much better yesterday than they did in the Ulster Final.
Monaghan were a shadow of what they were in that game and the game against Mayo.
I know they kicked a lot of wides but they just weren't the same team.
Quote from: quit yo jibbajabba on July 10, 2023, 10:19:30 AM
few anoraks on here and i mean that as a compliment 😃
Id be of similar vintage but wouldnt have half the memory of some you guys
89 team was some team
some players who practically disappeared after that who were mainstays of that team and very good players
Coleman only 1 of back 7 to make it.
Paddy, Simpson, Skelly, McGonigle, Martin, OConnor - did they represent Derry at senior level at all ? maybe a league game here and there but dont remember
Big John at midfield played a few league games
James Lynn and McEldowney, dont think so
Watched some parts of the game back. There was a serious crowd from Monaghan there. At the game, I thought it was about 3/1 on the support side of things, but seeing the full stand it was probably closer to 5/1. They certainly gave their team some support, even during the warm up, clapping them going over and back across the pitch.
Derry controlled most of the game yesterday, there was some brief threats from McGinnity and Finn, but I felt Derry kept them at arms length. We were in a good position at half time, 2pts up and with the breeze in the second half. The free off the ground (with the breeze) from Finn was some hit, could have landed it from 10yds further back.
On the sending off, its one of those that you'd probably try to defend your own player, saying he was stumbling and falling over someone who had just fallen in front of them. If he isn't your man, you'd say he meant to do damage and knew what he was doing. I'd say the ref was right on this one, though think the linesman on the far side was the one who made the call.
After that, I think that Monaghan had a couple of wides and maybe one dropped short. If any of those went over the Monaghan crowd would've lifted the roof off. The shot selection, into the wind, was v poor. Too many bad wides, and dropped short.
But the goal killed the game for Derry, was strange to see a team with an extra man, caught out completely at the back on a long kick out, fielded by Higgins in midfield, quick hand pass, and it was man to man on the run in, and one of them had to chase back to get close to Sargent. Doherty done extremely well to hold off his marker and draw the keeper, and it was an easy finish.
Superb result. And another great lift for Derry.
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on July 10, 2023, 12:26:08 PM
Quote from: quit yo jibbajabba on July 10, 2023, 10:19:30 AM
few anoraks on here and i mean that as a compliment 😃
Id be of similar vintage but wouldnt have half the memory of some you guys
89 team was some team
some players who practically disappeared after that who were mainstays of that team and very good players
Coleman only 1 of back 7 to make it.
Paddy, Simpson, Skelly, McGonigle, Martin, OConnor - did they represent Derry at senior level at all ? maybe a league game here and there but dont remember
Big John at midfield played a few league games
James Lynn and McEldowney, dont think so
Aye always weird who makes it, Mulholland and McGonigle both excellent club players, Paddy too of course lol.
Think Rory left for USA v soon after, dont mind hearin much more about Lyn who was excellent from memory
Top scorers in the championship.
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Great story and connections. Doire abú!
Was at that Castleblaney one too, played decent against Meath best U-21 Team. Ventured on to Jody Devine club for Derry v Meath Challenge game. The nite the garda were called lol.
Is there many from either side back again next year?
Had a look at the 2022 Ulster Minor Final and Derry only had 4 from the panel that played against Tyrone that day, available again this year: McEldowney, McGuckian, Higgins and Spiers. Think Boyle was part of the wider panel last year.
Quote from: Blowitupref on July 10, 2023, 05:57:18 PM
Top scorers in the championship.
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Ger Dillon underage again next year. 8)
Quote from: Estimator on July 13, 2023, 05:42:36 PM
Is there many from either side back again next year?
Had a look at the 2022 Ulster Minor Final and Derry only had 4 from the panel that played against Tyrone that day, available again this year: McEldowney, McGuckian, Higgins and Spiers. Think Boyle was part of the wider panel last year.
Dillon, Sargent and Young definitely underage. Next year , I think Grant and McCloy are too
Aye Grant and Mc Cloy are.
Adrian Mc Guickan's cub is too.
I think there is 10 or 11 on the panel that are eligible next year.
Sargent from Lavey is some operator.
You already know Sargent be a senior county man at this stage already, he stands out the way Mark Lynch, James Keilt, did at this level.
2023 Electric Ireland Football Minor Star Team of the Year
1. Jamie Mooney (Monaghan and Cremartin Shamrocks)
2. Jack Lynch (Monaghan and Monaghan Harps)
3. Fionn McEldowney (Derry and Slaughtneil)
4. Eoin McGreal (Mayo and Garrymore)
5. Cahir Spiers (Derry and Magherafelt)
6. James Sargent (Derry and Lavey)
7. Ryan Mitchell (Dublin and Erin's Isle)
8. Ben Murphy (Kerry and Austin Stacks)
9. Tommy Rogers (Derry and Kilrea)
10. Seán Óg McElwain (Monaghan and Scotstown)
11. Tommy Mallen (Monaghan and Scotstown)
12. Johnny McGuckian (Derry and Watty Grahams Glen)
13. Conall Higgins (Derry and Magherafelt)
14. Matthew Finn (Monaghan and Emyvale)
15. Paddy Lane (Kerry and Austin Stacks)
McGuckian named player of the year.
Well deserved poty. Unplayable at times. It'll be interesting to see if Derry can fit him into the senior setup at some point with the role he plays.
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 16, 2023, 02:02:30 PM
Well deserved poty. Unplayable at times. It'll be interesting to see if Derry can fit him into the senior setup at some point with the role he plays.
He's probably only 17.
Give him a couple of years.
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on August 16, 2023, 03:46:37 PM
Yes, let's see how he goes at AFL first.
Not criticising the young fella in anyway but don't they usually go for taller players? He makes up for that in plenty of other ways of course
Quote from: Brendan on August 16, 2023, 07:29:01 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on August 16, 2023, 03:46:37 PM
Yes, let's see how he goes at AFL first.
Not criticising the young fella in anyway but don't they usually go for taller players? He makes up for that in plenty of other ways of course
What a post 😂
Written off at 17. Sure tell the brother to quit as well while we're here 😆
Quote from: quit yo jibbajabba on August 18, 2023, 10:25:20 AM
Written off at 17. Sure tell the brother to quit as well while we're here 😆
Where did he write him off? Totally fair point by Brendan, and if anything a fact - they do go for bigger lads in Oz
Fair enough. I blame Walter. And jet lag. A dangerous combo 😃
Quote from: ClubScene13 on August 18, 2023, 12:42:09 PM
Quote from: quit yo jibbajabba on August 18, 2023, 10:25:20 AM
Written off at 17. Sure tell the brother to quit as well while we're here 😆
Where did he write him off? Totally fair point by Brendan, and if anything a fact - they do go for bigger lads in Oz
Exactly. Brendan just posted what everybody else was thinking!!