Armagh Club football & hurling

Hank Everlast · January 30, 2008, 12:20:23 PM

That wudnt be too bad, mccoy in rather than mcnulty tho.... and i think quinn is most likely to play chb if aidan is not fit

pintsofguinness · January 30, 2008, 01:44:38 PM

QuoteLads i know you have to be optimistic but in my opinion there are some player named here that just wouldn't cut it. The likes of Mc nulty and the older members of the squad can be given a bye ball because we know that they willl come good because they are tried and tested. Even though some of them may be struggling at present they will be there come summer. But there are other guys there who have done nothing at club level or any other level but suddenly have appeared in our top lists of players in the county. I am not naming any names specifically because then it will look like personal attacks and vedeta's but i am simply saying that some of the guys on this panel are in no way worthy of a place on a county squad, unless stevie wonder was picking the team then thay would be another story..

agree but the sad thing is I'm not sure there's anyone else.

gander · January 31, 2008, 09:17:27 AM

If francie isn't available I'd like to see Ciaran Toner in Full Back

Hank Everlast · January 31, 2008, 09:39:02 AM

Is toner fully fit? i thot he had been away for a while and so wouldnt have been training.

gander · January 31, 2008, 09:55:18 AM

Not talking about this sunday, more for later on down the line. I'd have Moriarty in FB on sunday.

illdecide · January 31, 2008, 11:10:04 AM

Quote from: gander on January 31, 2008, 09:55:18 AM
Not talking about this sunday, more for later on down the line. I'd have Moriarty in FB on sunday.

I noticed most of you have Moriarty in your team selection but are we talking about the same guy who couldn't get near big Joe's teams and the same guy that some of you said months ago that while watching games involving the Tones you wouldn't have noticed he was a county man by his displays

don't get me wrong i love to see guys from North Armagh on the team and if he has improved that much then he deserves his place but i can't see how you can be a pretty average second division player 6 months ago and now a regular on the county team

gander · January 31, 2008, 11:42:10 AM

I've never seen him for the Tones so I wouldn't know. Always thought he was a decent player, thought he was very good against Muldoon earlier in the year. Plus McNulty is far too slow for full back

altovito · January 31, 2008, 11:45:20 AM

am not runnin the player down but i think the blues man is rite.although an average player nt up to county standard.anygames he played in div2 last year he looked average. nothing more nothing less.

Goats Do Shave · January 31, 2008, 11:45:44 AM

Quote from: gander on January 31, 2008, 11:42:10 AM
I've never seen him for the Tones so I wouldn't know. Always thought he was a decent player, thought he was very good against Muldoon earlier in the year. Plus McNulty is far too slow for full back

He got roasted v Muldoon!!!!!! $:-\$

Had a better day v St Marys!

gander · January 31, 2008, 11:55:27 AM

How did he get roasted? Muldoon only got two points, both from frees. Moriarty won the majority of balls he went for.

Hank Everlast · January 31, 2008, 12:41:38 PM

he wasnt roasted but muldoon did get the better of him and got on the ball far more than he shold have. His experience at that level probably told.
A few people dont seem to think he is up to it but who are the alternatives?!?!

illdecide · January 31, 2008, 12:58:30 PM

Quote from: Hank Everlast on January 31, 2008, 12:41:38 PM
he wasnt roasted but muldoon did get the better of him and got on the ball far more than he shold have. His experience at that level probably told.
A few people dont seem to think he is up to it but who are the alternatives?!?!

That's my opinion as well. I personally think he's out of his depth but we don't have many other alternatives. The one thing i can say is that when everyone is fit we will still have a very good team that will take a v good team to beat us, but if we get injury's we do not have the quality in the squad that we had a few years back.

full back · January 31, 2008, 01:22:52 PM

Radio Ulster are broadcasting Sundays game live - on air from 2pm

winsamsoon · January 31, 2008, 02:01:04 PM

The players are out there if the selection process was done correctly. It is no good picking these players on merit or on their past. With a new manager taking over he should have implemented new trials for everyone and left the book completely opened. Instead he kept the old guard ( the majority of tried and tested under Kernan) and selected a few others from clubs around the county. What he should have done was selected four teams made up of a mixture of clubs. He should then have played two semi final games and then a final run over two sundays. This would have given him the opportunity to select players on fitness and abilitity. Each club should have been ask to forward the top 4 players whom they felt would warrant a county trial ( Now obviously the likes of Mc Grane and others wouldn't have to attend because in my opinion they would be guaranteed a place on the panel). This way if a lad was selected it would be clear and in the open, then you could turn round and say the system was fair and such and such made it through or didn't. There are clubs that ar vastly under represented on the county squad. My own included. I know for a fact there are lads on our senior squad who are as good as some mentioned but they have never been even approached for a trial. There are many more clubs like this so why not just have a major trial system in place to allow lads a fair crack at county football.

illdecide · January 31, 2008, 02:12:14 PM

Quote from: winsamsoon on January 31, 2008, 02:01:04 PM
The players are out there if the selection process was done correctly. It is no good picking these players on merit or on their past. With a new manager taking over he should have implemented new trials for everyone and left the book completely opened. Instead he kept the old guard ( the majority of tried and tested under Kernan) and selected a few others from clubs around the county. What he should have done was selected four teams made up of a mixture of clubs. He should then have played two semi final games and then a final run over two sundays. This would have given him the opportunity to select players on fitness and abilitity. Each club should have been ask to forward the top 4 players whom they felt would warrant a county trial ( Now obviously the likes of Mc Grane and others wouldn't have to attend because in my opinion they would be guaranteed a place on the panel). This way if a lad was selected it would be clear and in the open, then you could turn round and say the system was fair and such and such made it through or didn't. There are clubs that ar vastly under represented on the county squad. My own included. I know for a fact there are lads on our senior squad who are as good as some mentioned but they have never been even approached for a trial. There are many more clubs like this so why not just have a major trial system in place to allow lads a fair crack at county football.

Correct son. When D McAlinden was invited onto the county squad 2 years ago under Joe he done his cruciate ligament in and Joe told him he would take him back when he got fit. Now Dwyer is flying at the minute and is at his fittest in 3 years but he never even received a trial or the squad for the McKenna cup matches. Michael Austin is another one (and you's talked about earlier "Full Back" position) i know he likes his alcohol and food to much but over the last 3-4 months he has got himself into good shape and is probably at his fittest in 3 years also and it's only January. i know for a fact that if he was part of the Armagh panel he wouldn't piss about.