Armagh Club football & hurling

[full back]

Think it needs to be a north armagh manager now.

why?

i think it doesnt really matter where the manager would come from. i dont think there would be too many who want it.

in any case, the recent south armagh dominance of armagh football can be seen in (a) Crossmaglen and (b) the number of teams in division 1.

Exactly....a NA man would almost be the same as a neutral...plus he will have the best interests of the county at heart.

Nonsense

Are you saying that if the next manager isnt from NA he wont have the best interests of the county at heart?

Eh...i mean as opposed to an outside manager who would only be in for the £££s

He doesnt have to be a North Armagh man to have the best interests of the county at heart

Why do you see a division with North Armagh & the rest of the county?

Armagh football is dominated by South Armagh teams. To avoid conflicts of interest/perceived favourtism it makes sense that the manager does not come from this area.


If however, the stand out candidate is from this area then he surely should be made manager.

This negates what you previously stated

[fred the red]

Think it needs to be a north armagh manager now.

why?

i think it doesnt really matter where the manager would come from. i dont think there would be too many who want it.

in any case, the recent south armagh dominance of armagh football can be seen in (a) Crossmaglen and (b) the number of teams in division 1.

Exactly....a NA man would almost be the same as a neutral...plus he will have the best interests of the county at heart.

Nonsense

Are you saying that if the next manager isnt from NA he wont have the best interests of the county at heart?

Eh...i mean as opposed to an outside manager who would only be in for the £££s

He doesnt have to be a North Armagh man to have the best interests of the county at heart

Why do you see a division with North Armagh & the rest of the county?

Armagh football is dominated by South Armagh teams. To avoid conflicts of interest/perceived favourtism it makes sense that the manager does not come from this area.


If however, the stand out candidate is from this area then he surely should be made manager.

This negates what you previously stated

Not really. I said if there is a stand out candidate then he should be made manager.

However if there where 2 managers equal in skill and experience, i think the NA manager should get the nod for the reasons i have highlighted previously.

[full back]

We are going around in circles here

You said "a NA man would almost be the same as a neutral...plus he will have the best interests of the county at heart."

I said that statement is nonsense

Who cares where he is from?

If you are the county manager, naturally you will have the best interests at heart

Every county manager wants to be successful, every supporter should want the same and not bringing up what part of the county you should be from

[fred the red]

We are going around in circles here

You said "a NA man would almost be the same as a neutral...plus he will have the best interests of the county at heart."

I said that statement is nonsense

Who cares where he is from?

If you are the county manager, naturally you will have the best interests at heart

Every county manager wants to be successful, every supporter should want the same and not bringing up what part of the county you should be from

I just feel that a local man would have more passion for the job than an 'outsider'.

If you disagree with this then fair enough, and I would agree that if there is no one within the county who is able to do the job then an outsider may be a viable option.

An outsider has worked for Antrim & Wicklow, but we should have enough talent within our own county to take on the best in Ireland.

[full back]

I do agree with you fred that an man from inside the county would be the best option, but I disagree that a NA man would be any better than a man from anywhere else within the county

With this fiasco regarding Mc Donnell perhaps it isnt just the management team that needs to be changed.
So far, the CB havent exactly covered themselves in glory

[robertemmet]

Would John rafferty not be in the running for the Armagh senior job.

[Goats Do Shave]

Would John rafferty not be in the running for the Armagh senior job.

How did Slaughtneil take to him?

[Orior]

Would John rafferty not be in the running for the Armagh senior job.

He would be keen as mustard. Anyone care to guess what criteria candidates need to meet? For example:

- Must have a realistic plan that will achieve a second AI (with suitable checkpoints along the way)
- Must have excellent man-management skills
- Must demonstrate ability to get the best of average and great players
- Must be able to work with and get the best out of coaching and training staff
- Must not listen to crap on GAA Board

[corn02]

We are going around in circles here

You said "a NA man would almost be the same as a neutral...plus he will have the best interests of the county at heart."

I said that statement is nonsense

Who cares where he is from?

If you are the county manager, naturally you will have the best interests at heart

Every county manager wants to be successful, every supporter should want the same and not bringing up what part of the county you should be from

I just feel that a local man would have more passion for the job than an 'outsider'.

If you disagree with this then fair enough, and I would agree that if there is no one within the county who is able to do the job then an outsider may be a viable option.

An outsider has worked for Antrim & Wicklow, but we should have enough talent within our own county to take on the best in Ireland.

But that's flawed though isn;t it?

Passion isn't everything and setting up silly north.south armagh divides won't helpeither.

[brokencrossbar1]

Would John rafferty not be in the running for the Armagh senior job.

He would be keen as mustard. Anyone care to guess what criteria candidates need to meet? For example:

- Must have a realistic plan that will achieve a second AI (with suitable checkpoints along the way)
- Must have excellent man-management skills
- Must demonstrate ability to get the best of average and great players
- Must be able to work with and get the best out of coaching and training staff
- Must not listen to crap on GAA Board

All valid till you got to the last one.  Did you not know that the only way to win an AI is to learn from all the experts on Discussion boards who have got millions of medals in their back pockets?  This in my view should be top of you list

[Orior]

Would John rafferty not be in the running for the Armagh senior job.

He would be keen as mustard. Anyone care to guess what criteria candidates need to meet? For example:

- Must have a realistic plan that will achieve a second AI (with suitable checkpoints along the way)
- Must have excellent man-management skills
- Must demonstrate ability to get the best of average and great players
- Must be able to work with and get the best out of coaching and training staff
- Must not listen to crap on GAA Board

All valid till you got to the last one.  Did you not know that the only way to win an AI is to learn from all the experts on Discussion boards who have got millions of medals in their back pockets?  This in my view should be top of you list

The only thing I've learned from GaaBoard is... is... is... ONeill and Muppet are two funny blokes.

[winsamsoon]

The new manager must also be able to deal with the characters in the Armagh team that are throwing toys out of the pram when they don't get their own way. For the new year coming in the players also need to grow up and accept the manager is there to do a job and he must be left to it.

[DuffleKing]

You mean the new manager must have the capacity to manage win?

[winsamsoon]

well in as many words duffle   But a few players must catch themselves on and take a reality check

[charlie stubbs]

Armagh football is dominated by South Armagh teams. To avoid conflicts of interest/perceived favourtism it makes sense that the manager does not come from this area.


If however, the stand out candidate is from this area then he surely should be made manager.
[/quote]

a north armagh man could then be perceived as being biased if for example ryan henderson where to start.  Dont know any credable candidates from n armagh anyway?  it a vicious circle, people are going to complain no matter what team/players/panel is selected.  i ask that the best man appointed regardless of postcode