Armagh Club football & hurling

[crossfire]

Good post Winsamsoon. I totally agree.

[pintsofguinness]

Good post winsam, like that idea about clubs providing feedback. 

[armaghtrue]

agree wit u winsamsoon but at the end of the day most refs in this county deserve criticism but no ref should be touched no matter what...

if the nab hada been threw out for a few years when they were up for a lot worse a while back we wouldn't be in this situation again.  but because of that people think they can get away with it

[pintsofguinness]

agree wit u winsamsoon but at the end of the day most refs in this county deserve criticism but no ref should be touched no matter what...

if the nab hada been threw out for a few years when they were up for a lot worse a while back we wouldn't be in this situation again.  but because of that people think they can get away with it

What situation are we in? An incident with Granemore a couple of weeks ago which sounded quite bad, granted.

This involving our player isnt worth talking about, a ref trying to make a mountain out of mole hill.   

The way you say it makes it sound like there's a ref being attacked every week.

[corn02]

agree wit u winsamsoon but at the end of the day most refs in this county deserve criticism but no ref should be touched no matter what...

if the nab hada been threw out for a few years when they were up for a lot worse a while back we wouldn't be in this situation again.  but because of that people think they can get away with it

What situation are we in? An incident with Granemore a couple of weeks ago which sounded quite bad, granted.

This involving our player isnt worth talking about, a ref trying to make a mountain out of mole hill.   

The way you say it makes it sound like there's a ref being attacked every week.

Were you there Pints?

This is not the first time someone has been accused of striking a ref for nothing more than a punch.

Win , very good post, but a tad unrealistic.

You can;t just go find 10 new refereees, noone will od it. I don't want to ref, I doubt many on here would, sadly they are stuck with this bunch.

It's not fair to label all refs the same but within our county there always seems to be a lot of controversy.

Referees have to be monitored, but clubs are likely to be biased too. I would like a proper referees' committe developed amonst county delegates, they can then travel to certain matches and evaluate.

[clanneire]

to put light on this,all referees are asessed in the first 4 weeks of the season.2nd point,the committee have to appoint referees for the match and due to the lack of referees that clubs provide they have to make do wot they have.if u want changes on the standard of referees then tell ure club to provide refs,not slate them,alas two teams on the pitch and the ref decides that on a fri nite or sun a/noon that he would prefer to spend quality time with family or have a pint ,or listen to abusot i would know wot i would prefer,moral of story,learn the rules b4 u kick a ball

[pintsofguinness]

Were you there Pints?

What does that matter?

This is not the first time someone has been accused of striking a ref for nothing more than a punch.

I'm aware of that. 

[corn02]

Were you there Pints?

What does that matter?

This is not the first time someone has been accused of striking a ref for nothing more than a punch.

I'm aware of that. 

I find it strange that you can say he is trying to make a mountain out of a molehill if you weren't there and that your player did nothing wrong.The referee obviously disagrees so you are simply making assumptions on one word against another.

[pintsofguinness]

Were you there Pints?

What does that matter?

This is not the first time someone has been accused of striking a ref for nothing more than a punch.

I'm aware of that. 

I find it strange that you can say he is trying to make a mountain out of a molehill if you weren't there and that your player did nothing wrong.The referee obviously disagrees so you are simply making assumptions on one word against another.

I never said the player did nothing wrong, in fact Ive said the opposite. 
The player is ultimately responsible because you cannot put your hands on the referee and if you do you leave yourself open to a long ban. That however will not stop me criticising the referee for making the most out of it, I know he's making the most out of it because everyone I've spoke to who was at the game said it a one push (at most) and they've no reason to lie. 
Two posters on this board have said similar but all you can come on and say is "where you there". That's just cheap, silly nonsense I thought you were a better poster than that.   

[corn02]

Were you there Pints?

What does that matter?

This is not the first time someone has been accused of striking a ref for nothing more than a punch.

I'm aware of that. 

I find it strange that you can say he is trying to make a mountain out of a molehill if you weren't there and that your player did nothing wrong.The referee obviously disagrees so you are simply making assumptions on one word against another.

I never said the player did nothing wrong, in fact Ive said the opposite. 
The player is ultimately responsible because you cannot put your hands on the referee and if you do you leave yourself open to a long ban. That however will not stop me criticising the referee for making the most out of it, I know he's making the most out of it because everyone I've spoke to who was at the game said it a one push (at most) and they've no reason to lie. 
Two posters on this board have said similar but all you can come on and say is "where you there". That's just cheap, silly nonsense I thought you were a better poster than that.   

Really? 

Well I wasn't trying to be cheap or silly, I just think in incidents like these it is hard to get the right picture ubless you are there.

For what it's worth, it sounds like the player is hard done by and I hope he gets off. I have seen it happen before (note: seen it POG  ), I don't know if refs feel threatened or make genuine mistakes, it is hard to know.

I try not to criticise refs as they are doing a job that most, myself included, would be too lazy to do. I just hope the standards improve.

[pintsofguinness]

Were you there Pints?

What does that matter?

This is not the first time someone has been accused of striking a ref for nothing more than a punch.

I'm aware of that. 

I find it strange that you can say he is trying to make a mountain out of a molehill if you weren't there and that your player did nothing wrong.The referee obviously disagrees so you are simply making assumptions on one word against another.

I never said the player did nothing wrong, in fact Ive said the opposite. 
The player is ultimately responsible because you cannot put your hands on the referee and if you do you leave yourself open to a long ban. That however will not stop me criticising the referee for making the most out of it, I know he's making the most out of it because everyone I've spoke to who was at the game said it a one push (at most) and they've no reason to lie. 
Two posters on this board have said similar but all you can come on and say is "where you there". That's just cheap, silly nonsense I thought you were a better poster than that.   

Really? 

Well I wasn't trying to be cheap or silly, I just think in incidents like these it is hard to get the right picture ubless you are there.

For what it's worth, it sounds like the player is hard done by and I hope he gets off. I have seen it happen before (note: seen it POG  ), I don't know if refs feel threatened or make genuine mistakes, it is hard to know.

I try not to criticise refs as they are doing a job that most, myself included, would be too lazy to do. I just hope the standards improve.

well as decent a poster a liverpool/dromintee man can be. 

It's not that I hope he gets off (though admittedly I wont be complaining if he does) but I'd accept the ref putting in the report exactly what happened and if he has to serve a supension for placing hands on the ref then we can't really complain (he shouldnt have touched him) but it should not be blew up in to something it wasnt. 

[corn02]

Were you there Pints?

What does that matter?

This is not the first time someone has been accused of striking a ref for nothing more than a punch.

I'm aware of that. 

I find it strange that you can say he is trying to make a mountain out of a molehill if you weren't there and that your player did nothing wrong.The referee obviously disagrees so you are simply making assumptions on one word against another.

I never said the player did nothing wrong, in fact Ive said the opposite. 
The player is ultimately responsible because you cannot put your hands on the referee and if you do you leave yourself open to a long ban. That however will not stop me criticising the referee for making the most out of it, I know he's making the most out of it because everyone I've spoke to who was at the game said it a one push (at most) and they've no reason to lie. 
Two posters on this board have said similar but all you can come on and say is "where you there". That's just cheap, silly nonsense I thought you were a better poster than that.   

Really? 

Well I wasn't trying to be cheap or silly, I just think in incidents like these it is hard to get the right picture ubless you are there.

For what it's worth, it sounds like the player is hard done by and I hope he gets off. I have seen it happen before (note: seen it POG  ), I don't know if refs feel threatened or make genuine mistakes, it is hard to know.

I try not to criticise refs as they are doing a job that most, myself included, would be too lazy to do. I just hope the standards improve.

well as decent a poster a liverpool/dromintee man can be. 

It's not that I hope he gets off (though admittedly I wont be complaining if he does) but I'd accept the ref putting in the report exactly what happened and if he has to serve a supension for placing hands on the ref then we can't really complain (he shouldnt have touched him) but it should not be blew up in to something it wasnt. 

You wouldn't be a dear and pm me the names please?

[Goats Do Shave]

Why would anyone be a ref?

If there were no referees... there would be no games!

[Onion Bag]

agree wit u winsamsoon but at the end of the day most refs in this county deserve criticism but no ref should be touched no matter what...

if the nab hada been threw out for a few years when they were up for a lot worse a while back we wouldn't be in this situation again.  but because of that people think they can get away with it

Not Jusitfying what happened that day but the differerance here was that there were no players involved at all, it was a lunatic club member that was involved, so it is slighlty different than a player hitting a referee

[Off The Fence]

Correct me if I'm wrong but has this Smith boy not been involved in incidents before

Maghery v Carrickcruppen  a couple of years ago,  Was he not involved in a row in Tir an Og a while back either when he wasnt even refereeing.

From what I hear from talking to other people, he thinks he is the hard man and full of smart remarks