Armagh Club football & hurling

[mackers]

Must say Armagh looked fairly sharp today, I still reckon too much has been made of the result in Cork. Real bad news about Vernon, he was going well, busted himself at one stage to get a ball back from about four Dubs on his own and gave the ball to MOR who duly gave it back to the Dubs!! As benny says there was nothing malicious in it but it's a real blow!!
I thought that the game was fairly competitive for a challenge game (it was a damn sight more competitive than last year's game in Cullyhanna) with Pat McEneaney letting a lot go although he did send a Dub to the line (although there was no red card) for a head high tackle on C McKeever. The standard of defending dropped dramatically in the second half when basically the whole back line was replaced. For me Paul Duffy was Armagh's best player with Stevie also excellent.
How long is Vernon likely to be out with a broken jaw? Weeks? Months?

[AFS]

How long is Vernon likely to be out with a broken jaw? Weeks? Months?

From just doing a google search for sportsmen with this injury it would seem that it can be anywhere from 5 or 6 weeks up to several months. Suppose it depends how bad the fracture is, how well it heals, etc. If it turns out that he did break it, I'd say he's definitely out for Tyrone anyway. Huge blow 

[ArmaghGAAforum]

Not a great day for Armagh harps or Charlie Vernon.

Charlie was rushed to the Royal after a suspected broken jaw during the Armagh V Dublin game.

ah no! ffs Charlie was having his best season for the county and this is likely to rule him out of the tyrone game 

[goh4205]

How long is Vernon likely to be out with a broken jaw? Weeks? Months?

From just doing a google search for sportsmen with this injury it would seem that it can be anywhere from 5 or 6 weeks up to several months. Suppose it depends how bad the fracture is, how well it heals, etc. If it turns out that he did break it, I'd say he's definitely out for Tyrone anyway. Huge blow 

Your right AFS, having suffered this a few years ago, it will depend how bad the break is and were. In my case it was 16 weeks, but i had 3 breaks 2 on the lower cheek bone and 1 on the upper.  he should be informed that if he goes to the oxygen chamber it will drastically speed up the healing process, and there's a chance he could feature against Tryone if this was done pronto.  Do you know how if it's just 1 break or more.

[judas1]

How long is Vernon likely to be out with a broken jaw? Weeks? Months?

From just doing a google search for sportsmen with this injury it would seem that it can be anywhere from 5 or 6 weeks up to several months. Suppose it depends how bad the fracture is, how well it heals, etc. If it turns out that he did break it, I'd say he's definitely out for Tyrone anyway. Huge blow 

Your right AFS, having suffered this a few years ago, it will depend how bad the break is and were. In my case it was 16 weeks, but i had 3 breaks 2 on the lower cheek bone and 1 on the upper.  he should be informed that if he goes to the oxygen chamber it will drastically speed up the healing process, and there's a chance he could feature against Tryone if this was done pronto.  Do you know how if it's just 1 break or more.

his jaw is broke in 2 places he will be out for 12 weeks.

[Goats Do Shave]

I actually thought that the Dublin full back went in to "do" Charlie. IMO He made no attempt to go for the ball, he went to hit the player! Well done Bastic! 

A disappointing way to finish an entertaining game, from which the Armagh team showed real promise, with Charlie & Stevie excelling along with the Armagh full back line.

Get well soon Charlie!

[Candyman]

Talking to a few team mates there who had been textin Charlie... Metal plate inserted lastnight!!

[Stevie Nicks]

I actually thought that the Dublin full back went in to "do" Charlie. IMO He made no attempt to go for the ball, he went to hit the player! Well done Bastic! 

A disappointing way to finish an entertaining game, from which the Armagh team showed real promise, with Charlie & Stevie excelling along with the Armagh full back line.

Get well soon Charlie!

Bit unfair was a hospital pass to Charlie and the defender had every right to go for it, one of those things. Is a massive blow to whatever chance we had in Clones. Big question now is who will make up our midfield?? Played Toner at fullback yesterday assume he will be back out but who with Lavery / McKenna ?

[Sandy Hill]

his jaw is broke in 2 places he will be out for 12 weeks.

............ by which time we'll be well and truly out of the AI Championship!

[Skiddybadoo]

his jaw is broke in 2 places he will be out for 12 weeks.

............ by which time we'll be well and truly out of the AI Championship!

Sure you don't rate Charlie anyway, Sandy.  Or have you changed your opinion.

[brokencrossbar1]

Terrible news for Charlie and for Armagh.  Reports say that it was a hospital ball and the full back shouldered him full frontal.  there doesn't seem to be much made of this tackle, which by description sounds a small bit similar to Francie's on Mickey Linden a few years ago after a hospital pass from Coulter.

Time now to look forward and see what can be done.  Given the nature of the game that Tyrone play I have a wild suggestion.  Obviously play Toner out round the middle, but throw Aaron Kernan in there.  He can run all day, is comfortable on the ball, Tyrone never dominate the mid field sector so there is no real need for a dominating pair in the middle.  Only a thought.

[corn02]

Terrible news for Charlie and for Armagh.  Reports say that it was a hospital ball and the full back shouldered him full frontal.  there doesn't seem to be much made of this tackle, which by description sounds a small bit similar to Francie's on Mickey Linden a few years ago after a hospital pass from Coulter.

Time now to look forward and see what can be done.  Given the nature of the game that Tyrone play I have a wild suggestion.  Obviously play Toner out round the middle, but throw Aaron Kernan in there.  He can run all day, is comfortable on the ball, Tyrone never dominate the mid field sector so there is no real need for a dominating pair in the middle.  Only a thought.

I like the thinking outside the box BC, but wouldn't go for that at all.

I get what you're saying about not needing to dominate, but he would be operating in a cluttered zonbe and that would take away his best attributes - galloping into space and having time on the ball to pick out a great pass.

[brokencrossbar1]

Terrible news for Charlie and for Armagh.  Reports say that it was a hospital ball and the full back shouldered him full frontal.  there doesn't seem to be much made of this tackle, which by description sounds a small bit similar to Francie's on Mickey Linden a few years ago after a hospital pass from Coulter.

Time now to look forward and see what can be done.  Given the nature of the game that Tyrone play I have a wild suggestion.  Obviously play Toner out round the middle, but throw Aaron Kernan in there.  He can run all day, is comfortable on the ball, Tyrone never dominate the mid field sector so there is no real need for a dominating pair in the middle.  Only a thought.

I like the thinking outside the box BC, but wouldn't go for that at all.

I get what you're saying about not needing to dominate, but he would be operating in a cluttered zonbe and that would take away his best attributes - galloping into space and having time on the ball to pick out a great pass.

I actually think it might be a case that both teams would not use their midfield at all and that there would actually be more space.  Keep the half back line deep, do not get involved in a slugging match between the 50's, play McEvoy in goals(you'll love me for saying that) hit the wing positions with the kick outs and run the ball into the space to allow the longer pace into the FF line.  Toner and McKeever can hold the centre and the wing backs and Aaron can run like fug forward creating the overlap.

[corn02]

Terrible news for Charlie and for Armagh.  Reports say that it was a hospital ball and the full back shouldered him full frontal.  there doesn't seem to be much made of this tackle, which by description sounds a small bit similar to Francie's on Mickey Linden a few years ago after a hospital pass from Coulter.

Time now to look forward and see what can be done.  Given the nature of the game that Tyrone play I have a wild suggestion.  Obviously play Toner out round the middle, but throw Aaron Kernan in there.  He can run all day, is comfortable on the ball, Tyrone never dominate the mid field sector so there is no real need for a dominating pair in the middle.  Only a thought.

I like the thinking outside the box BC, but wouldn't go for that at all.

I get what you're saying about not needing to dominate, but he would be operating in a cluttered zonbe and that would take away his best attributes - galloping into space and having time on the ball to pick out a great pass.

I actually think it might be a case that both teams would not use their midfield at all and that there would actually be more space.  Keep the half back line deep, do not get involved in a slugging match between the 50's, play McEvoy in goals(you'll love me for saying that) hit the wing positions with the kick outs and run the ball into the space to allow the longer pace into the FF line.  Toner and McKeever can hold the centre and the wing backs and Aaron can run like fug forward creating the overlap.

I do indeed love you now. 

[Harpo]

Harps beat Clans by a point............brutal match IMO.