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If the Euro soccer doesn't happen due to no more £s from the Brits then provide what you can with the funds available..new pitch, 5,000 seat stand, some terracing.

Imagine thinking a GAA style stadium straight from the 60s would be sufficient going forward for years... Clones needs replaced, an Ulster final location is needed. Your suggestion ain't it

No Brit money = no Euro soccer = GAA have £80m (possibly plus our €50m).
Who then is going to pay the extra £75m to build a 34k capacity Ulster Final Stadium?
Just asking a realistic question

I already posted that plenty of good stadia around Europe have been built recently for the 120 million mark for that sort of capacity seating and terracing. They just need to find good honest builders, unfortunately most GAA redevelopments cost the earth for not a lot which should be raising all sorts of red flags

I think this refers to the temporary seating required for the Euros. As they don't need such a large field for soccer games, they will have a method of installing seats in sections that will be come over some of the GAA pitch. I think this would mean that an initial section of the main stands at pitch level will be terracing to allow these sections of seats to be installed, linking into the main stand itself.

No it will be just the same footprint but one end that was originally planned to be fully terrace will have seats for the euros due to UEFA criteria but post euros can have the seats removed and rails for terracing then placed bringing capacity back up from 30000 to 34500

To be honest the sensible answer is both GAA and stormont up the money from what 15 million and 62.5 million in 2010 is in today's money. I'm guessing that will bring us up to around 115 million plus 45 from Dublin. £160mill is a pretty good sum to build a decent stadium. If the euros is such a biggy then London delivers the rest but I'm at the point where I couldn't give a stuff about the euros

Am I correct  in saying the original cost was £77 million? Now it's £308  million?  That is mad

Would a squad of  Polish builders do it for less?

That was 2011. GAA was not planning for a stadium that meets UEFA requirements. Even Croke Park or Páirc Uí Chaoimh or indeed any GAA stadium in Ireland would not meet UEFA requirements. Construction costs have also gone through the roof post Covid.

Yes it was 2011, but £77m was also  the cost for a  bigger stadium (38k if I recall).  So that makes the current  Price even madderer.

Why would Croke Park not meet UEFA requirements?  Sure it hosted  soccer  qualifiers. As does Landsdowne Rosd currently

What exactly  are these supposed UEFA requirements ? A heli-pad for the suits  to fly in?  A mono-rail  for  them to get to their seats?

Exactly what a farce. I want the euros in Belfast but you can't justify these costs they are insane. Its sounds like a hell of a lot of lads are getting big brown envelopes at that rate

https://static.bnn.de/karlsruhe/karlsruhe-stadt/Wildpark_Stadion.jpg-us7j4x/alternates/LANDSCAPE_16x9_BASE/Wildpark_Stadion.jpg

Nice terracing too not like the state of the 'new' pair UI chaoimh ends

I'm all for the euros but if the UEFA stadium spec adds this extra cost and won't really be needed again then stop. They have  120 million following  the Irish Gove money. As I have shown above that's enough to get a quality stadium, maybe not able to host euros but perfect for anything else. Get it built asap

308 million tell them to get to f**k a lot of builders in this country take the piss meanwhile in Germany £120 million gets this 35000 mixed seating terrace stadium

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wildparkstadion

Jim Boyce really hard done by, not let into a meeting he wasnt invited to and then sent to another lounge to watch football and eat food for free. It's shocking so it is the poor martyr

Jarlath Burns was interviewed on RTE Radio 1 today https://www.rte.ie/radio/radio1/clips/22360753/

He said that the GAA will not be putting in any more money because its original plan was not accepted and the Euros were added on later and if people want the Euros to go ahead in West Belfast they will have to pony up . Sin é.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZkW2vEuYa1o

I think that's fair enough, however if the GAA added an extra 5 million then surely the DUP twats can't say no to the executive upping their commitments by the same % that would be 20 million plus 83 million from stormont plus 42 million from Dublin. That's 145 million that leaves 50 odd million from London. 200 million should easily get a 35000 capacity stadium unless the builders are using gold and diamonds FFS.

Lundy

Renewing the terraces is exactly what happened at PUC and you have the ridiculous scenario were the stadium still cost an absolute fortune yet half of it looks straight out of the fifties. The GAA have notoriously overpaid for shoddy work, paid top dollar for new stands and got little return. I often use the example of the new stand at McHale and the new stand at Leicester tigers, both built at the same time for the same money, like wtf. I'll try and put some pics up later as I'm busy at work. At least this time it will need to be up to UEFA standards so the cowboys will have to up their game with the build.

Imagine having this clown as captain of your club

https://x.com/gidge11/status/1761550095739175072?s=46

Half of every team are cheating ball bags these days hence why I have lost a lot of interest in football

Watched Nolan last night. He is an awful bollix for stirring. The casement debate about costs was split up with a piece about how there is no funding for special needs schooling. As if to say you have to choose one or the other ffs

I enjoyed True Detective 4. Wasn't the greatest tv series ever, but it was decent enough.

Started that Dornan one set in Australia, The Tourist. 2 episodes in. Is it worth sticking with?

The tourist was enjoyable but the last episode of series 2 was pure shite, a real let down of an ending for an otherwise entertaining 2 seasons