Has the intercounty system in football told us all it’s ever going to tell us?

Started by caprea, February 13, 2020, 05:38:52 AM

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imtommygunn

The super eights should go. I don't think they add much at all and tbh are an exercise in money making. This year has shown us- knockout is the way to go.

Armagh18

Quote from: Rossfan on November 22, 2020, 12:59:02 PM
Munster SFC -  a 2 County competition. Only issue is which will come first Kerry's 100th or Cork's 50th.
Connacht SFC - 3 Counties competitive now.
Ulster SFC - 3 Counties have shared the last 12 with Tyrone and Donegal dominating.
Leinster- 1 County has won 15 of the last 16.
All Ireland SFC -1 County has won 7 of the last 9 and looking like 8 out of 10.
All getting a bit pointless.
I'd say the Tipp lad's disagree with you. Also the Ulster championship has been absolutely unreal and competitive for years.

macdanger2

Quote from: Armagh18 on November 22, 2020, 04:58:18 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on November 22, 2020, 12:59:02 PM
Munster SFC -  a 2 County competition. Only issue is which will come first Kerry's 100th or Cork's 50th.
Connacht SFC - 3 Counties competitive now.
Ulster SFC - 3 Counties have shared the last 12 with Tyrone and Donegal dominating.
Leinster- 1 County has won 15 of the last 16.
All Ireland SFC -1 County has won 7 of the last 9 and looking like 8 out of 10.
All getting a bit pointless.
I'd say the Tipp lad's disagree with you. Also the Ulster championship has been absolutely unreal and competitive for years.

They said during commentary yesterday that Donegal have been in 9 of the last 10 finals, that's some going

Rossfan

Davy's given us a dream to cling to
We're going to bring home the SAM

Captain Obvious

Quote from: Rossfan on November 27, 2020, 09:53:46 AM
As good a spot as any to post this

https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2020/1127/1180822-gaa-calendar-2021/

Regional league to have relegation and the distance to travel seems to be forgotten about in relegation play offs seems a bit daft. Would make more sense just to play the normal 7 game league without finals

Eire90

it will be very dissapointing if they keep the super 8s why do they need basically a league stage at that stage of competition and it also gives the bigger teams even more room for complacency

Captain Obvious

Quote from: Eire90 on November 27, 2020, 01:50:25 PM
it will be very dissapointing if they keep the super 8s why do they need basically a league stage at that stage of competition and it also gives the bigger teams even more room for complacency

Did you read the above article? It says no Super 8s for 2021. The league is the best format the GAA have and should not be chopping and changing something that isn't broke.

Eire90

two double headers of quarter finals over the one weekend would be better and more of   spectacle   than the super 8s  also 4 provincial should be done as two tv double headers on a saturday and sunday on the same weekend.

Eire90


Eire90

The all ireland should move to a saturday aswell permanently 5pm throw in you have to think of the fans that will be celebrating that have to work on a monday better to give them a recovery day.

BennyCake

Quote from: Eire90 on November 27, 2020, 02:15:36 PM
The all ireland should move to a saturday aswell permanently 5pm throw in you have to think of the fans that will be celebrating that have to work on a monday better to give them a recovery day.

Celebrating fans working on the Monday? A lot of them wouldn't even make it in the following Monday!

Blowitupref

Quote from: Rossfan on November 27, 2020, 09:53:46 AM
As good a spot as any to post this

https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2020/1127/1180822-gaa-calendar-2021/

A  u-turn  on 2021 season?

From the examiner

GAA weigh up staging club before inter-county season in 2021

Central Council discusses 'flipping' the seasons in 2021, with club played first

THE GAA won't make a decision on the 2021 calendar until next month as they weigh up the possibility of commencing the club season before county.

It had been expected the county period would commence in late February with the Allianz Leagues based on split football divisions and the hurling competition remaining the same but for reduced knockout stages.

The Championship, based on the qualifier system, would then start in late April before finishing in July before the county club championships take place in late summer and earlier autumn.

However, GAA leaders may now recommend the exclusive club window precede county as there are doubts about meaningful crowds returning to games in the first half of 2021.

With the organisation making a variety of cuts and requiring a Government grant to stage the Championships, the issue of gate receipts is a considerable factor for the GAA. Delaying the inter-county season until such time as supporters can go to games in sizeable numbers may be required.

The Club Players Association have already backed the proposal to organise the county period before the club, although a number of prominent GAA figures such as Tipperary senior hurling manager Liam Sheedy have supported club going first.

Central Council today heard the latest on discussions between the GAA and GPA. It is expected that the fundraising dinners held by the official inter-county players' body in the US will now be a joint effort between the organisations with a portion of the money raised to be given to local GAA bodies.

Although there were some claims from counties that the changes to the under-age grades require a further vote, Croke Park officials that the uneven grades - U13, U15, U17 - are the primary levels now.


The GAA hopes to receive more information about when they can stage the outstanding U20 football final, the U20 hurling championship and both minor championships from the Government earlier next week.

Is the ref going to finally blow his whistle?... No, he's going to blow his nose

thewobbler

I would sincerely hope that the top brass are attuned to their members and realise that 98% of players shouldn't be asked to give up summer football just to swell central coffers.

sid waddell

Quote from: Blowitupref on November 28, 2020, 06:12:38 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on November 27, 2020, 09:53:46 AM
As good a spot as any to post this

https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2020/1127/1180822-gaa-calendar-2021/

A  u-turn  on 2021 season?

From the examiner

GAA weigh up staging club before inter-county season in 2021

Central Council discusses 'flipping' the seasons in 2021, with club played first

THE GAA won't make a decision on the 2021 calendar until next month as they weigh up the possibility of commencing the club season before county.

It had been expected the county period would commence in late February with the Allianz Leagues based on split football divisions and the hurling competition remaining the same but for reduced knockout stages.

The Championship, based on the qualifier system, would then start in late April before finishing in July before the county club championships take place in late summer and earlier autumn.

However, GAA leaders may now recommend the exclusive club window precede county as there are doubts about meaningful crowds returning to games in the first half of 2021.

With the organisation making a variety of cuts and requiring a Government grant to stage the Championships, the issue of gate receipts is a considerable factor for the GAA. Delaying the inter-county season until such time as supporters can go to games in sizeable numbers may be required.

The Club Players Association have already backed the proposal to organise the county period before the club, although a number of prominent GAA figures such as Tipperary senior hurling manager Liam Sheedy have supported club going first.

Central Council today heard the latest on discussions between the GAA and GPA. It is expected that the fundraising dinners held by the official inter-county players' body in the US will now be a joint effort between the organisations with a portion of the money raised to be given to local GAA bodies.

Although there were some claims from counties that the changes to the under-age grades require a further vote, Croke Park officials that the uneven grades - U13, U15, U17 - are the primary levels now.


The GAA hopes to receive more information about when they can stage the outstanding U20 football final, the U20 hurling championship and both minor championships from the Government earlier next week.

It makes a lot more sense to have the club championships played off before the inter-county championships than they other way around

That way the club championships i) become genuinely relevant as regards getting an inter-county squad place ii) they get played in better weather and longer evenings and iii) the influence of county managers and training camps could be cut back on - the club championships double as pre-season training for inter-county players

Play club championships from the end of March to July - with the All-Ireland club finals in early July

Inter-county championships begin in mid-July and go through to the end of October or early November

Rossfan

And those lads whose Club  are out of Championships in April?
How much interest will they have in an oul League that no one cares about or will their season be over?
Davy's given us a dream to cling to
We're going to bring home the SAM