The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread

[clarshack]

it was good to see the win on thurs nite. would be fantastic if celtic could pull off an unlikely passage to the next round of the europa.

out of interest 3 middlesborough players today played in this game:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/europe/7250340.stm

also, why can mowbray win the championship with west brom, currently do well with borough but fail miserably in a supposedly easier league with celtc?

[Forever Green]

Solid win today without playing well which we haven't been able to do in a while. Hooper looking like his old self again and Samaras getting another assist  If it wasnt for Anthony Stokes, we would be absolutely fucked this year. Looked very good defensively apart from the goal. Rogne really is going to be a top class defender and Majstrorovic returning to from as well. Next game is away to Inverness so it will have to be another ugly win imo but I am confident we will do it

Forster-7

Cha-6
Rogne-8
Maj-8
Matthews-7

Forrest-6 ( Didn't get in the game at all, but not surprising as those ankle breaking bastards tried to do him everytime he touched the ball)
Kayal-8
Wanyama-7
Samaras-7

Commons-5 ( Very poor again but hopefully a run of games will get him back to form)
Stokes-9

Subs:
Hooper-8 (First touch looked very good and he got the vital goal)
McCourt-7 (Heavily involved in setting up the winning goal)
McGeouch (Good to see him get his debut as he is supposed to be a very promising player. Even got McGeadys old number 46 

[SambaSaffron]

it was good to see the win on thurs nite. would be fantastic if celtic could pull off an unlikely passage to the next round of the europa.

out of interest 3 middlesborough players today played in this game:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/europe/7250340.stm

also, why can mowbray win the championship with west brom, currently do well with borough but fail miserably in a supposedly easier league with celtc?

I'm not sure it's an easier league. Yes in the sense that only 2 teams can realistically win it, but the championship is overrated as regards quality. When you see the likes of Hooiveld strolling it down there it says a lot, added to Barry Robson and Chris Burke being top players. And Ross McCormack and Jason Scotland have scored bagfuls down there in recent years.

But its more to do with the pressure of managing Celtic being entirely different to Boro or WBA. With Celtic you have to win every game, you have to win the league. There's no settling period. He couldn't cope with it.

And his signings were awful.

[dec]

http://www.irishtimes.com/sports/soccer/2011/1114/1224307552233.html

Celtic face 'illicit chanting' charge

Soccer : Celtic will next month face disciplinary action from Uefa over "illicit chanting" in the Europa League win over Rennes at Parkhead.

A spokesperson for Uefa confirmed Celtic will be called before the organisation's control and disciplinary body

on December 8th to face a charge of an incident of an unsporting nature, namely illicit chanting, during the 3-1 defeat of the French side on November 3rd.

Celtic have already confirmed they were "looking into the claims", which are believed to centre on songs about the IRA. Possible Uefa sanctions include a fine and ban on supporters, although Celtic have not been punished for a similar offence before.

Celtic are understood to have been taken by surprise by the action, with sources suggesting no issues were raised during or immediately after the match.

Press Association Sport understands that Strathclyde Police made the Uefa delegate aware of "offensive" singing during the encounter.

Celtic last month urged fans to stop singing pro-IRA chants after being "inundated" with complaints from their own supporters following their 2-0 defeat by Hearts at Tynecastle.

Lothian and Borders Police announced they had launched an investigation into the "singing of sectarian songs" following the Clydesdale Bank Premier League game on October 2nd.

Celtic's city rivals Rangers have been punished for similar offences in the past.

Rangers fans were banned from travelling to their next away game in Europe and the club were fined more than £70,000 after being found guilty of two counts of "discriminatory behaviour" on the part of their fans in April following Europa League games against PSV Eindhoven.

Rangers were also handed a suspended ban on a second away game and warned they faced playing a home game behind closed doors if found guilty of the same offence within three years.

The Ibrox club had received fines following similar incidents in matches against Villarreal and Osasuna in recent years.

[Orior]

What are these pro ira chants?

[Gaoth Dobhair Abu]

What are these pro ira chants?

Boys of the Old Brigade!!

[Orior]

What are these pro ira chants?

Boys of the Old Brigade!!

Never heard of it.

[Forever Green]

Doubt much will come of this case with UEFA. We have been in this situation before and they just threw the case out as the songs were found to be grand. Anyway, in the Rennes game there were no songs about the Provos which is perhaps deemed offensive by some folk. Just another bitter bastard who wants Celtic to be seen as bad as the huns. f**k Strathclyde Police!

[Main Street]

It's never a great idea to let the police decide on interpreting the law in order to supposedly solve an issue to do with ethnic and religious abuse.
But this is a UEFA matter and the Strathclyde police have no jurisdiction with UEFA.

If it's TBOTOB that's the chant in question, then UEFA can find an issue with it.

http://www.uefa.com/MultimediaFiles/Download/Tech/uefaorg/General/01/64/85/47/1648547_DOWNLOAD.pdf

In particular this one
Article 11
e) ]the use of gestures, words, objects or any other means to transmit any message that is not fit for a sports event, in particular if it is of a political, offensive or provocative nature;


But not with the more serious

'insults to the human dignity of a person or group of persons by whatever means, including on grounds of colour, race, religion or ethnic origin'

[thebigfella]

Doubt much will come of this case with UEFA. We have been in this situation before and they just threw the case out as the songs were found to be grand. Anyway, in the Rennes game there were no songs about the Provos which is perhaps deemed offensive by some folk. Just another bitter b**tard who wants Celtic to be seen as bad as the huns. f**k Strathclyde Police!

They are though

[reddgnhand]

It's never a great idea to let the police decide on interpreting the law in order to supposedly solve an issue to do with ethnic and religious abuse.
But this is a UEFA matter and the Strathclyde police have no jurisdiction with UEFA.

If it's TBOTOB that's the chant in question, then UEFA can find an issue with it.

http://www.uefa.com/MultimediaFiles/Download/Tech/uefaorg/General/01/64/85/47/1648547_DOWNLOAD.pdf

In particular this one
Article 11
e) ]the use of gestures, words, objects or any other means to transmit any message that is not fit for a sports event, in particular if it is of a political, offensive or provocative nature;


But not with the more serious

'insults to the human dignity of a person or group of persons by whatever means, including on grounds of colour, race, religion or ethnic origin'

But sure that would cover every set of supporters.

[Main Street]

I suppose general abusive banter between fans is not an issue and wouldn't have the uefa delegate running to the rule book.
That's why I say that singing TBOTOB is less serious but if UEFA want to cut out the political angle then there is a rule there and also if uefa need to be seen as impartial.

Generally the behavior of Celtic fans abroad is worthy of high praise by the home fans, home club, city authorities and police. The evidence for that is overwhelming. Personally I don't see a good enough reason why the TBOTOB should be sung  any more at football games.  But considering the history of the SFA against Celtic's Irish identity it has to be understood and accepted that there are other lines which can't be crossed.

[Forever Green]

Doubt much will come of this case with UEFA. We have been in this situation before and they just threw the case out as the songs were found to be grand. Anyway, in the Rennes game there were no songs about the Provos which is perhaps deemed offensive by some folk. Just another bitter b**tard who wants Celtic to be seen as bad as the huns. f**k Strathclyde Police!

They are though

How exactly?

[thebigfella]

Doubt much will come of this case with UEFA. We have been in this situation before and they just threw the case out as the songs were found to be grand. Anyway, in the Rennes game there were no songs about the Provos which is perhaps deemed offensive by some folk. Just another bitter b**tard who wants Celtic to be seen as bad as the huns. f**k Strathclyde Police!

They are though

How exactly?

Look at your avatar, need I say more. Hard to to take someone serious, blaming bitter b**tard's trying to paint Celtic fans as bad as Ranger's, when you have that 

In my experience though Celtic's fans are just as big a scum as Ranger's and that based on first hand experience too.

[Forever Green]

So, when did we trash a city after getting beat in the UEFA cup final? When did we send bombs to a Rangers manager? When was someone killed for wearing a Rangers shirt? Their fans constantly sing about being up to their knees in fenian blood, where is our equivalent  of that song? Quit talking utter pish based on experience with a few people. Absolutely nothing bitter about my avatar either dickhead