The OFFICIAL Liverpool FC thread - Jurgen walks - Stallion vindicated

[dec]

Can win the title at Goodison

Hope not, I want them to clinch at Anfield.

[brokencrossbar1]

73 - Liverpool
72 - May
71 - As
70 - Well
69 - Be
68 - Given
67 - The
66 - Trophy
65 - Now
64 - As
63 - Nobody
62 - Is
61 - Catching
60 - Them.
59 - What
58 - A
57 - Season
56 - They're
55 - Having.
54 - They've
53 - Completely
52 - Embarrassed
51 - Man City.

[Milltown Row2]

73 - Liverpool
72 - May
71 - As
70 - Well
69 - Be
68 - Given
67 - The
66 - Trophy
65 - Now
64 - As
63 - Nobody
62 - Is
61 - Catching
60 - Them.
59 - What
58 - A
57 - Season
56 - They're
55 - Having.
54 - They've
53 - Completely
52 - Embarrassed
51 - Man City.
52 - Worst league ever
53 - Not Liverpool's fault

[quit yo jibbajabba]

You got the sequence wrong there MR2 tho it was a pretty hard one to follow alright 

[Milltown Row2]

You got the sequence wrong there MR2 tho it was a pretty hard one to follow alright 

lol it's not the sequence I'm debating.

[stiffler]

73 - Liverpool
72 - May
71 - As
70 - Well
69 - Be
68 - Given
67 - The
66 - Trophy
65 - Now
64 - As
63 - Nobody
62 - Is
61 - Catching
60 - Them.
59 - What
58 - A
57 - Season
56 - They're
55 - Having.
54 - They've
53 - Completely
52 - Embarrassed
51 - Man City.
52 - Worst league ever
53 - Not Liverpool's fault

😂

[BennyCake]

Can win the title at Goodison

Hope not, I want them to clinch at Anfield.

After waiting 30 years I don't care where it happens....that's if it is going to happen this season of course.

Ooh I dunno. It'll be tight!

[Armamike]

Next year's going to be our year 

[Denn Forever]

It'll be tough.  Hope fully not a one hit wonder.

[brokencrossbar1]

https://twitter.com/5liveSport/status/1224049680981614594?s=09


Hang on Hang on Hang on!!!

Go and follow Stat Man Gaz for the craic on twitter and just pollute him for a few days!

[Look-Up!]

Some mad bastards around. Cannot deny Liverpools stats and they have the CL trophy in the cabinet as well. Whether they can hold onto the team long term and achieve greatness over multiple seasons is another story but at this particular moment in time you cannot argue that there has ever been a better PL team. In saying that though if they don't pass the 100 points mark this season, the 100 points out of a possible 102 over different seasons will not hold the same sheen.
VAR arguments are nonsense though and you cannot redraw a table on overturning them. That's not how sport works. Decisions usually level themselves out over a season. For bad decisions a team needs to have the quality to take advantage of those in their favour and for those that go against them they need to not let it define the game. There's also momentum, drive and attitude to factor in. Teams can change their setup after scoring or if they fail to score keep hunting for the goal. Each VAR decision if it results in a goal changes the pattern of the game afterwards. So it's a very big assumption to get the new final score by just deducting the VAR from it.

[Hound]

Ah yeah, the VAR thing is clearly utter nonsense. EPSN has the latest net VAR over-turns stats:
https://www.espn.co.uk/football/english-premier-league/story/3929823/how-var-decisions-have-affected-every-premier-league-club

Brighton are top with +7 benefit. SheffU and Norwich bottom with -6.
Liverpool are +1, Man City are breakeven.

But even then, it's not as if Brighton are somehow getting an unfair advantage. VAR has just corrected injustices that would have happened to them (while VAR has got some things wrong, most of the time they've amended decisions, they've been technically correct. And in recent weeks there's actually been more complaints about VAR not intervening, rather than intervening too much).

[TabClear]

Ah yeah, the VAR thing is clearly utter nonsense. EPSN has the latest net VAR over-turns stats:
https://www.espn.co.uk/football/english-premier-league/story/3929823/how-var-decisions-have-affected-every-premier-league-club

Brighton are top with +7 benefit. SheffU and Norwich bottom with -6.
Liverpool are +1, Man City are breakeven.

But even then, it's not as if Brighton are somehow getting an unfair advantage. VAR has just corrected injustices that would have happened to them (while VAR has got some things wrong, most of the time they've amended decisions, they've been technically correct. And in recent weeks there's actually been more complaints about VAR not intervening, rather than intervening too much).

Thats the key point. You can argue whatever you like about whether VAR is a good or a bad thing but the bottomline is that it should improve the amount of "correct" decisions. From a technical perspective it definitely has on the offside decisions. A more meaningful VAR table (and taking the point above that each decision changes how teams would have approached the remainder of the match) would be how have teams benefitted/been penalised on the subjective VAR calls. I.e. was it a foul for a penalty/was it a red card?

[Look-Up!]

Players, managers and pundits can be like children at the best of times. VAR might be a nuisance but it's fair. For years they bitched and moaned at the disgrace of not using video technology and all the unjust decisions. Now they're bitching even more at fairness.
It might be a ball ache with what part of body to reference or other points but the line has to be drawn somewhere. If they give the attacker more leeway there still has to be a defined line and there will still be borderline decisions. Once the laws are laid out clearly in advance I don't see the drama.

[J70]

There's no pleasing people.

Wait a couple of months until the championship starts and witness the amount of whinging over referees (making split-second, one-real-time-look decisions) there'll be on the GAA side of this forum.

If we had VAR in the GAA, it would still be the same.