Joe Brolly

Started by randomtask, July 31, 2011, 05:28:31 PM

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Rossfan

#4635
Good lad.
Won't ever be a United Ireland while lads like you are spouting bile.
All those "partitionists, West Brits, unionists and Irishmen my big toe" will all be on the Voting Register ;)
Davy's given us a dream to cling to
We're going to bring home the SAM

marty34

Quote from: Rossfan on March 09, 2019, 05:16:15 PM
Good lad.
Won't ever be a United Ireland while lads like you are spouting bile.
All those "partitionists, West Brits, unionists and Irishmen my big toe" will all be on the Voting Register ;)

Surely you mean a re-united Ireland?  The wee 6 was left behind a long time ago despite all the 'republican party' waffle.

Even Charlie Flanagan tweeted 'By the way it's 'ni' not the six counties'. What a clown? Very representative of lads on this forum though.  No surprise, his brief a while back included the 6 counties...his title was Minister of Foreign Affairs.....lol.

People from the 6 counties could be President of Ireland but can't vote in it...very inclusive....lol.

I'm never worried about lads like you and mindsets like that.

Rossfan

Good ladeen.
If only the other 6,599,999 people living in Ireland were like you..... ;D
Davy's given us a dream to cling to
We're going to bring home the SAM

BennyCake

Marty34 does have a point. Nationalists were treated disgracefully in the north.

But this talk of a UI needs input from unionists about how it's going to work, blah blah... no amount of talking or money will ever ever make unionists want to be in a UI. The only way it's going to work is if there's a yes vote for a UI, then do it, and deal with the consequences (likely another Troubles era). As mad as that sounds, that's what will happen if there's a UI. If you're a nationalist but can't or don't want to deal with that consequence, then forget about ever living in a UI.

There will never be "the right time" for a UI, as far as unionists (and some nationalists) are concerned.

charlieTully

Quote from: Rossfan on March 09, 2019, 01:50:21 PM
Maybe......
But not if Shinners keep hectoring them ;)

Joe Brolley is not a shinner though. As a matter of interest would you like to see a UI?

marty34

Quote from: BennyCake on March 10, 2019, 12:23:26 AM
Marty34 does have a point. Nationalists were treated disgracefully in the north.

But this talk of a UI needs input from unionists about how it's going to work, blah blah... no amount of talking or money will ever ever make unionists want to be in a UI. The only way it's going to work is if there's a yes vote for a UI, then do it, and deal with the consequences (likely another Troubles era). As mad as that sounds, that's what will happen if there's a UI. If you're a nationalist but can't or don't want to deal with that consequence, then forget about ever living in a UI.

There will never be "the right time" for a UI, as far as unionists (and some nationalists) are concerned.

Totally agree BC.

Do the tour of city hall in Belfast and check out all the nationalist/catholic/republican items?  You could count them on 1 hand.  Nationalists were wiped from history - we didn't exist. The motorway ended in Toome and Dungannon - they didn't want decent infrastructure west of the Bann.  2nd university going to Coleraine instead of Derry.  I could go on. 

There will never be a time to talk about a reunited Ireland according to some.  . The 6 counties is a failed statelet - best option is to reunite and cut down on the dual health service, dual business development and dual tourist forums etc. 

Common sense will prevail.

Farrandeelin

Quote from: marty34 on March 10, 2019, 11:20:10 AM
Quote from: BennyCake on March 10, 2019, 12:23:26 AM
Marty34 does have a point. Nationalists were treated disgracefully in the north.

But this talk of a UI needs input from unionists about how it's going to work, blah blah... no amount of talking or money will ever ever make unionists want to be in a UI. The only way it's going to work is if there's a yes vote for a UI, then do it, and deal with the consequences (likely another Troubles era). As mad as that sounds, that's what will happen if there's a UI. If you're a nationalist but can't or don't want to deal with that consequence, then forget about ever living in a UI.

There will never be "the right time" for a UI, as far as unionists (and some nationalists) are concerned.

Totally agree BC.

Do the tour of city hall in Belfast and check out all the nationalist/catholic/republican items?  You could count them on 1 hand.  Nationalists were wiped from history - we didn't exist. The motorway ended in Toome and Dungannon - they didn't want decent infrastructure west of the Bann.  2nd university going to Coleraine instead of Derry.  I could go on. 

There will never be a time to talk about a reunited Ireland according to some.  . The 6 counties is a failed statelet - best option is to reunite and cut down on the dual health service, dual business development and dual tourist forums etc. 

Common sense will prevail.

Hopefully.
Inaugural Football Championship Prediction Winner.

Rossfan

Davy's given us a dream to cling to
We're going to bring home the SAM

Seany

Apparently Joe had a great piece this week in the Indo. ANyone have it to post?

trailer

Quote from: BennyCake on March 10, 2019, 12:23:26 AM
Marty34 does have a point. Nationalists were treated disgracefully in the north.

But this talk of a UI needs input from unionists about how it's going to work, blah blah... no amount of talking or money will ever ever make unionists want to be in a UI. The only way it's going to work is if there's a yes vote for a UI, then do it, and deal with the consequences (likely another Troubles era). As mad as that sounds, that's what will happen if there's a UI. If you're a nationalist but can't or don't want to deal with that consequence, then forget about ever living in a UI.

There will never be "the right time" for a UI, as far as unionists (and some nationalists) are concerned.

Even the lunatics in SF recognise that holding a unity referendum without an agreed plan for a United Ireland is crazy.

BennyCake

Quote from: trailer on March 10, 2019, 09:23:04 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on March 10, 2019, 12:23:26 AM
Marty34 does have a point. Nationalists were treated disgracefully in the north.

But this talk of a UI needs input from unionists about how it's going to work, blah blah... no amount of talking or money will ever ever make unionists want to be in a UI. The only way it's going to work is if there's a yes vote for a UI, then do it, and deal with the consequences (likely another Troubles era). As mad as that sounds, that's what will happen if there's a UI. If you're a nationalist but can't or don't want to deal with that consequence, then forget about ever living in a UI.

There will never be "the right time" for a UI, as far as unionists (and some nationalists) are concerned.

Even the lunatics in SF recognise that holding a unity referendum without an agreed plan for a United Ireland is crazy.

If you're waiting on unionists agreement on how a United Ireland might work, you'll be waiting a long long time.

trailer

Quote from: BennyCake on March 10, 2019, 09:50:03 PM
Quote from: trailer on March 10, 2019, 09:23:04 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on March 10, 2019, 12:23:26 AM
Marty34 does have a point. Nationalists were treated disgracefully in the north.

But this talk of a UI needs input from unionists about how it's going to work, blah blah... no amount of talking or money will ever ever make unionists want to be in a UI. The only way it's going to work is if there's a yes vote for a UI, then do it, and deal with the consequences (likely another Troubles era). As mad as that sounds, that's what will happen if there's a UI. If you're a nationalist but can't or don't want to deal with that consequence, then forget about ever living in a UI.

There will never be "the right time" for a UI, as far as unionists (and some nationalists) are concerned.

Even the lunatics in SF recognise that holding a unity referendum without an agreed plan for a United Ireland is crazy.

If you're waiting on unionists agreement on how a United Ireland might work, you'll be waiting a long long time.

Well sure we'll not bother then because you think so. It's the job for those on the unification side to make the case and convince people.
Remember the last time a referendum was held without an agreed way forward for different outcomes...

Lar Naparka

While I think the vast majority of people south of the border are in favour of a UI, most would be apprehensive of the inevitable consequences. The probability of a violent loyalist backlash has most of us very worried.
Right now we have major issues of our own, namely Health, Homelessness and Harris in no particular order.
If there should be a hard Brexit, there will be a renewal of hostilities along the border at the re-introduction of customs posts.
The cost of subsiding the people of NI to the tune of billions of euro annually for the foreseeable future is another mater folks down here won't welcome.
All in all, Marty & Co. should take nothing for granted about public sentiment down south.Maybe a good start would be for the Shinners to tone down their aggressive approach to the debate about unification.
Nil Carborundum Illegitemi

Main Street

Quote from: charlieTully on March 10, 2019, 10:45:29 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on March 09, 2019, 01:50:21 PM
Maybe......
But not if Shinners keep hectoring them ;)

Joe Brolley is not a shinner though. As a matter of interest would you like to see a UI?
I thought Joe inhabited the castle catholic territory and now  feeling abandoned is searching for his roots.
i have always believed that a divided Ireland is not permanent and unity is inevitable. Since the GFA I have been bemused by northern nationalists considering the economic impact of such a move as if the financial impact of unity had a value over being held ransom to the stranglehold of creationists and some of the dumbest cretins on the planet.

Rossfan

Quote from: charlieTully on March 10, 2019, 10:45:29 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on March 09, 2019, 01:50:21 PM
Maybe......
But not if Shinners keep hectoring them ;)

Joe Brolley is not a shinner though. As a matter of interest would you like to see a UI?
Yes.8
Davy's given us a dream to cling to
We're going to bring home the SAM