Sinn Fein? They have gone away, you know.

Started by Trevor Hill, January 18, 2010, 12:28:52 AM

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trailer

If you want to imagine an Ireland with SF in power cast an eye towards Venezuela.

Hardy

And they would claim to be the party that made everyone in the country a millionaire.

trailer

Liam Adams: Convicted sex offender who raped daughter dies

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-47280312

Much like the Catholic Church - The IRA protected and covered up abuse to protect good republicans.


seafoid

Very interesting


https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/newton-emerson-stakeknife-case-will-cut-into-comforting-narratives-1.3737247
The Stakeknife story began opening people's eyes to a more complicated vista, where the security forces had not so much infiltrated paramilitaries as managed them, cultivating and protecting leaderships they could do business with as everyone inched towards the peace process – a process far longer and bloodier than its visible culmination in the Belfast Agreement
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

trailer

Quote from: seafoid on February 28, 2019, 11:00:02 AM
Very interesting


https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/newton-emerson-stakeknife-case-will-cut-into-comforting-narratives-1.3737247
The Stakeknife story began opening people's eyes to a more complicated vista, where the security forces had not so much infiltrated paramilitaries as managed them, cultivating and protecting leaderships they could do business with as everyone inched towards the peace process – a process far longer and bloodier than its visible culmination in the Belfast Agreement

Been trying to make this point for a long time. The IRA were more or less in cohorts with British Army and British Government. Colluding with them. Giving up lower ranked members in order to keep cover on the very, very senior IRA members in public and not so public roles and also good decent republicans around border areas.
Remember the IRA tortured and intimidated their own so called communities far more than loyalists or the British.

Could be awkward for Sinn Fein and some senior members of the IRA.

tiempo

Quote from: trailer on February 28, 2019, 11:52:02 AM
Quote from: seafoid on February 28, 2019, 11:00:02 AM
Very interesting


https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/newton-emerson-stakeknife-case-will-cut-into-comforting-narratives-1.3737247
The Stakeknife story began opening people's eyes to a more complicated vista, where the security forces had not so much infiltrated paramilitaries as managed them, cultivating and protecting leaderships they could do business with as everyone inched towards the peace process – a process far longer and bloodier than its visible culmination in the Belfast Agreement

Been trying to make this point for a long time. The IRA were more or less in cohorts with British Army and British Government. Colluding with them. Giving up lower ranked members in order to keep cover on the very, very senior IRA members in public and not so public roles and also good decent republicans around border areas.
Remember the IRA tortured and intimidated their own so called communities far more than loyalists or the British.

Could be awkward for Sinn Fein and some senior members of the IRA.

Depends if you consider murder of civilians in those communities a form or torture and intimidation or not I suppose.

trailer

Quote from: tiempo on February 28, 2019, 01:17:06 PM
Quote from: trailer on February 28, 2019, 11:52:02 AM
Quote from: seafoid on February 28, 2019, 11:00:02 AM
Very interesting


https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/newton-emerson-stakeknife-case-will-cut-into-comforting-narratives-1.3737247
The Stakeknife story began opening people's eyes to a more complicated vista, where the security forces had not so much infiltrated paramilitaries as managed them, cultivating and protecting leaderships they could do business with as everyone inched towards the peace process – a process far longer and bloodier than its visible culmination in the Belfast Agreement

Been trying to make this point for a long time. The IRA were more or less in cohorts with British Army and British Government. Colluding with them. Giving up lower ranked members in order to keep cover on the very, very senior IRA members in public and not so public roles and also good decent republicans around border areas.
Remember the IRA tortured and intimidated their own so called communities far more than loyalists or the British.

Could be awkward for Sinn Fein and some senior members of the IRA.

Depends if you consider murder of civilians in those communities a form or torture and intimidation or not I suppose.

https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/patsy-gillespies-widow-tells-of-pain-over-bomb-tweet-37402599.html
http://thedisappearedni.co.uk/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Robert_McCartney

Protecting the community.

tiempo

Quote from: trailer on February 28, 2019, 01:34:27 PM
Quote from: tiempo on February 28, 2019, 01:17:06 PM
Quote from: trailer on February 28, 2019, 11:52:02 AM
Quote from: seafoid on February 28, 2019, 11:00:02 AM
Very interesting


https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/newton-emerson-stakeknife-case-will-cut-into-comforting-narratives-1.3737247
The Stakeknife story began opening people's eyes to a more complicated vista, where the security forces had not so much infiltrated paramilitaries as managed them, cultivating and protecting leaderships they could do business with as everyone inched towards the peace process – a process far longer and bloodier than its visible culmination in the Belfast Agreement

Been trying to make this point for a long time. The IRA were more or less in cohorts with British Army and British Government. Colluding with them. Giving up lower ranked members in order to keep cover on the very, very senior IRA members in public and not so public roles and also good decent republicans around border areas.
Remember the IRA tortured and intimidated their own so called communities far more than loyalists or the British.

Could be awkward for Sinn Fein and some senior members of the IRA.

Depends if you consider murder of civilians in those communities a form or torture and intimidation or not I suppose.

https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/patsy-gillespies-widow-tells-of-pain-over-bomb-tweet-37402599.html
http://thedisappearedni.co.uk/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Robert_McCartney

Protecting the community.

800 years

LooseCannon

Anyone see where they edited Eastwood's speech. Cut off the end of it.
Fairly stupid.

trailer

Quote from: LooseCannon on February 28, 2019, 08:45:35 PM
Anyone see where they edited Eastwood's speech. Cut off the end of it.
Fairly stupid.

It was like something UKIP or the Leave campaign would have done.

Yesterday Martin Millar (Belfast Millionaire) criticised the NI budget. Remember when he has responsibility for setting a budget he failed to do so. He also voted to hand back welfare reform to the Tory gov.
But Sinn Féin insisted it was a "punishing austerity budget" imposed by the Conservative government with the support of the DUP.
Finance spokesperson Máirtín Ó Muilleoir said: "It exposes as sanctimonious, the claim by Theresa May in October of last year that 'austerity is over'."
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-47402949


tiempo

Quote from: trailer on March 01, 2019, 11:47:51 AM
Quote from: LooseCannon on February 28, 2019, 08:45:35 PM
Anyone see where they edited Eastwood's speech. Cut off the end of it.
Fairly stupid.

It was like something UKIP or the Leave campaign would have done.

Yesterday Martin Millar (Belfast Millionaire) criticised the NI budget. Remember when he has responsibility for setting a budget he failed to do so. He also voted to hand back welfare reform to the Tory gov.
But Sinn Féin insisted it was a "punishing austerity budget" imposed by the Conservative government with the support of the DUP.
Finance spokesperson Máirtín Ó Muilleoir said: "It exposes as sanctimonious, the claim by Theresa May in October of last year that 'austerity is over'."
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-47402949

Heres a good one for ye bass - Sinn Fein are not elected to act in the best interests of the Northern Ireland state or the British government but merely to facilitate its dissolution and the creation of a reunified Ireland. They are elected to do that and making a tremendous job of it, mind you there's probably some who would say it amounts to torture and intimidation of their own so called communities.

trailer

Quote from: tiempo on March 01, 2019, 12:36:17 PM
Quote from: trailer on March 01, 2019, 11:47:51 AM
Quote from: LooseCannon on February 28, 2019, 08:45:35 PM
Anyone see where they edited Eastwood's speech. Cut off the end of it.
Fairly stupid.

It was like something UKIP or the Leave campaign would have done.

Yesterday Martin Millar (Belfast Millionaire) criticised the NI budget. Remember when he has responsibility for setting a budget he failed to do so. He also voted to hand back welfare reform to the Tory gov.
But Sinn Féin insisted it was a "punishing austerity budget" imposed by the Conservative government with the support of the DUP.
Finance spokesperson Máirtín Ó Muilleoir said: "It exposes as sanctimonious, the claim by Theresa May in October of last year that 'austerity is over'."
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-47402949

Heres a good one for ye bass - Sinn Fein are not elected to act in the best interests of the Northern Ireland state or the British government but merely to facilitate its dissolution and the creation of a reunified Ireland. They are elected to do that and making a tremendous job of it, mind you there's probably some who would say it amounts to torture and intimidation of their own so called communities.

That may be the case, but they're happy to take the money though. Pigs in the trough.

tiempo

Quote from: trailer on March 01, 2019, 01:51:40 PM
Quote from: tiempo on March 01, 2019, 12:36:17 PM
Quote from: trailer on March 01, 2019, 11:47:51 AM
Quote from: LooseCannon on February 28, 2019, 08:45:35 PM
Anyone see where they edited Eastwood's speech. Cut off the end of it.
Fairly stupid.

It was like something UKIP or the Leave campaign would have done.

Yesterday Martin Millar (Belfast Millionaire) criticised the NI budget. Remember when he has responsibility for setting a budget he failed to do so. He also voted to hand back welfare reform to the Tory gov.
But Sinn Féin insisted it was a "punishing austerity budget" imposed by the Conservative government with the support of the DUP.
Finance spokesperson Máirtín Ó Muilleoir said: "It exposes as sanctimonious, the claim by Theresa May in October of last year that 'austerity is over'."
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-47402949

Heres a good one for ye bass - Sinn Fein are not elected to act in the best interests of the Northern Ireland state or the British government but merely to facilitate its dissolution and the creation of a reunified Ireland. They are elected to do that and making a tremendous job of it, mind you there's probably some who would say it amounts to torture and intimidation of their own so called communities.

That may be the case, but they're happy to take the money though. Pigs in the trough.

Content I'm sure, happy when they achieve their stated aim I would imagine.

charlieTully

Quote from: tiempo on March 01, 2019, 12:36:17 PM
Quote from: trailer on March 01, 2019, 11:47:51 AM
Quote from: LooseCannon on February 28, 2019, 08:45:35 PM
Anyone see where they edited Eastwood's speech. Cut off the end of it.
Fairly stupid.

It was like something UKIP or the Leave campaign would have done.

Yesterday Martin Millar (Belfast Millionaire) criticised the NI budget. Remember when he has responsibility for setting a budget he failed to do so. He also voted to hand back welfare reform to the Tory gov.
But Sinn Féin insisted it was a "punishing austerity budget" imposed by the Conservative government with the support of the DUP.
Finance spokesperson Máirtín Ó Muilleoir said: "It exposes as sanctimonious, the claim by Theresa May in October of last year that 'austerity is over'."
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-47402949

Heres a good one for ye bass - Sinn Fein are not elected to act in the best interests of the Northern Ireland state or the British government but merely to facilitate its dissolution and the creation of a reunified Ireland. They are elected to do that and making a tremendous job of it, mind you there's probably some who would say it amounts to torture and intimidation of their own so called communities.

Class . You were owned there trailer you wee unemployed lazy benefit sponging spoofer.

Snapchap

Quote from: trailer on March 01, 2019, 11:47:51 AM
Yesterday Martin Millar (Belfast Millionaire) criticised the NI budget.

Are you that much or a bitter, narrow minded, self-loathing Irishman, that you feel the need to translate his name to English? Absolutely warped.